00:04:06.600like kind of just in in like a total like not like nihilistic but like a dark in a dark way
00:04:13.400like it would just been fun to watch her because she's such a train wreck she's so bad at speaking
00:04:17.200she's so weird and such has such odd sort of personal interpersonal skills it would be kamala
00:04:23.300harris 2.0 a little different than kamala because i think christy afrillon is actually like quite
00:04:27.620bright but she's just like a train wreck on screen so i don't think that she stands much of a chance
00:04:33.200And that's what sort of what makes Mark Carney dangerous, what you alluded to, the fact that he is smarter, more competent, more accomplished.
00:04:40.980Like, Justin Trudeau didn't really do anything before he became prime minister.
00:04:43.820Like, he spent some time kicking around high schools in Vancouver.
00:04:49.660Like, he wasn't an accomplished person.
00:04:51.680He wasn't a serious person that had any business running for politics, except for the fact that the Liberal Party became, like, a cult around him.
00:04:58.720And this idea of like Trudeau mania, they were so obsessed with how great allegedly his father was. I guess if you live in certain parts of the country, you had like a positive memory of Pierre Trudeau. I think from where I'm from and where you're from, Kian, Pierre Trudeau wasn't remembered so fondly out in Western Canada.
00:05:13.940but I think so many people in Central Canada and Eastern Canada had this like positive loving
00:05:19.080memory of Pierre Trudeau as like sort of like the creator of New Canada and because of that
00:05:25.800Justin Trudeau could just kind of like fall into place not not very intelligent though not very
00:05:30.000thoughtful and it's funny we were pulling clips for this show and it seemed like everything that
00:05:34.500we pulled from like the first five years of Justin Trudeau's time in office were just like
00:05:37.940cringy embarrassing moments where he just said really stupid things and that was kind of like
00:05:41.860what his shtick was. I mean, I wrote a book, I think back in 2016 or 2017 called Stupid Things
00:05:46.540Trudeau Says. And it's by far my bestselling book that I've ever written. And it was just a joke.
00:05:51.140It was just literally just quotes from him, things that he had said in his own word. And we put it
00:05:55.120out as a gag. And then it sold like tens of thousands of copies because everyone was buying
00:05:59.160it like as a gag gift for their friends or whatever. And in a way, like he wasn't very
00:06:05.240serious. He was being run by the people behind him, presumably like the Katie Telfords and the
00:06:08.940Gerald Butts, that we're putting the policies in. And Canada has been incredibly radical. Like he
00:06:13.600has pushed Canada to the far left. So many of his policies have just led to like total chaos and
00:06:19.040like Canada feeling more and more like Venezuela every day. And so it's hard to imagine like how
00:06:24.140we could get any worse at this point, right? But then you bring in this guy that's like straight
00:06:28.620out of central casting, the central banker, like the crisis management guy, the fixer, who's going
00:06:34.360come in and like we still don't really know very much about him like i don't even really know where
00:06:38.920he lives like where's his primary resident and like where does his wife live like what what where
00:06:43.160does he have money how much money does he have what does he own like what are his interests
00:06:47.480financially so many things that are uncurious legacy media i've just not really bothered to
00:06:53.400dig into and to look into and so you kind of like imagine how far we could continue to go in this
00:06:59.400direction like like in some ways justin trudeau is like a bumbling fool whereas mark carney doesn't
00:07:04.920have that right he he seems much more like deliberate and in that way like malevolent
00:07:09.800in his specifically towards net zero and climate policy and sort of like reimagining the global
00:07:17.800financial system to put forward like social justice ideas ahead of just sort of like trying
00:07:23.800to build and develop and and like like like replacing the old economy with some new like
00:07:30.600utopian uh economy and like in some ways it's just like so much more dangerous um than having
00:07:37.480a bumbling fool as prime minister so i i don't really have a prediction other than the fact that
00:07:41.800i think you're right that mark carney will win on the first ballot and i think that things it's
00:07:47.320sort of like a make or break moment for canada like do we get an election do we get to actually
00:07:50.680go to the polls and if we do will canadians make the right choice will they finally evict this
00:07:55.880liberal government that has caused us so much pain and suffering or will they get lured in
00:08:00.040by this new person that has a different idea playing up this trade war and creating this huge
00:08:07.480sideshow over the trump tariffs rather than focusing on canada and the issues that plague
00:08:13.000our country we're now focused on this boogeyman that that is conveniently there um saying things
00:08:19.560that feed into the liberal narrative and you you kind of imagine like okay this is just kind of
00:08:24.520just the beginning right like things could get so much more worse so much worse and it's all
00:08:28.680going to happen like in the next few months presumably it's all unfolding so really interesting
00:08:33.880times in canadian politics what do you think ken well i agree with you that he needs to come clean
00:08:39.240with where his money is how much money does he have where is it sitting what could influence
00:08:45.320the decisions that he makes with executive authority the day he is sworn in which could be
00:08:51.520as soon as monday could be as late as friday but right now we don't know where his money's at we
00:08:57.040don't know what is driving him is it just purely you know he's driven by love of country well then
00:09:04.160the next question is what country he's a citizen of three so where's his money where's his loyalty
00:09:10.700is live we just need to know we need some sort of transparency um you know the liberals lost
00:09:16.420their minds when it came out that andrew sheer was a was an american uh dual citizen canadian
00:09:21.840and american they thought he should renounce his citizenship and and declare his loyalty to our
00:09:27.640country which you know that argument can actually be made that's a very fair argument i think that
00:09:32.080he should have done that if he wanted to be the prime minister of this country but mark carney
00:09:36.280has two other citizenships other than this one and he frankly he's lived in one of those countries
00:09:43.560more of the last 10 years than not so um i think that it's it's a very valid question which is why
00:09:50.520i asked him in calgary just a few days ago if we have the clip ready we should play it
00:09:55.160uh i asked him where's his money why is he lying uh and and how how do we know that he's going to
00:10:00.680stand up for this country when he when he lied about moving brookfield to the united states when
00:10:05.640We don't know where his money actually is.
00:18:19.480Yeah, I think that the worst case scenario is that he appears to boost Liberal Party political fortunes, which makes them think, oh, OK, we can go back to what we were doing a year ago.
00:18:33.000And if you remember what that was, it was importing huge amounts of people at the cost of our post-secondary school systems, at the cost of our hospitals, at the cost of our elementary schools, our roads, traffic, housing.
00:18:51.120The whole country was in dire straits.
00:18:53.400And then they said, OK, let's throttle down immigration.
00:18:55.640My concern is with Mark Carney and the teachings he's learned from the World Economic Forum, from the United Kingdom, from Ireland, is that, no, actually, if we want to boost GDP, we need to increase the population of workers, even if they're third world slave workers that just came into the country.
00:19:15.860And if their political fortunes rise with Mark Carney, they are going to go back to their original political instincts.
00:19:22.660Do you really think Katie Telford has changed her mind on how this country should look and behave?
00:19:28.780Do you think that she's learned her lesson or do you think she was looking at the polls?
00:59:33.360The country is heading for bankruptcy.
00:59:35.840So I would strongly recommend not backing Mark Carney or his policies on net zero,
00:59:41.140which have been disastrous for Britain, and would be disastrous for Canada.
00:59:49.560That's, you know, perfectly summed up what I was mentioning earlier about his history.
00:59:54.780All he knows how to do is print money and then spend that money that he prints.
00:59:59.760And the disaster that that spells for an economy is exactly what we've seen play out with Justin Trudeau.
01:00:04.520There really is not much of a difference.
01:00:06.520They even look like similar people, right?
01:00:08.480When it comes to their policy, what are we going to see differently other than the fact that Mark Carney knows what he's doing and can execute on strategy much better and more effectively than Justin Trudeau ever could?
01:00:19.840Is there any tangible difference, David, between Justin Trudeau and Mark Carney?
01:00:24.780Well, I'll say, like, look, observing from the outside, Jacob Rees-Mogg was one of Mark Carney's very steady critics in the UK, because Jacob Rees-Mogg is an incredibly successful and effective fund manager.
01:00:41.180And he would keep making the point that Mark Carney wanted to play politics and never take any accountability for the fact that that's what he was doing.
01:00:49.280and reason why i would often make a point saying look if you want to get in the arena you know
01:00:53.920you're welcome to it but don't pretend that you're not don't play politics then suddenly
01:00:57.840hide behind the fact that you're bureaucrat right and i think on climate policy and on fiscal
01:01:03.440management mark carney has been very far to the left but pretended to be centrist he did that in
01:01:08.960canada you know in canada didn't matter because the framework of the canadian structure the way
01:01:14.240who he reported into prevented him from being the activist that he became later on and i think that
01:01:20.000if you to answer your question about the similarity between mark carney and justin trudeau
01:01:25.120i think they're they're different in certain ways but probably the most profound difference is what
01:01:29.440i think we're going to see in the next month or two months depending on when the election gets
01:01:33.680called justin trudeau is frustrating for me because i don't like his policies or his politics
01:01:39.760but he happens to be a good communicator and he happens to have been effective at locking up the
01:01:45.520press who are basically ideological fellow travelers with him and he's he's sort of used
01:01:50.800i think a banana republic approach to that which is funding the press directly which is a horrific
01:01:54.880idea because it's taken the fifth estate and it's basically held it hostage to their political
01:01:59.280masters and that's happened within his sort of uh nine-year reign and i think it's something that
01:02:04.240of when he wins and i think he will win handily actually when he wins he's got to dismantle the
01:02:11.040entire thing get us back to a free speech open discussion culture because it's the only way to
01:02:16.720actually have the kind of open-minded thinking that is necessary to progress as a as a culture
01:02:22.800and as a society and as an economy but i think that mark carney is going to struggle with retail
01:02:27.680politics. I think Jacob Rees-Mogg spied this. And I think, you know, you know, I've worked with
01:02:34.700politicians directly. It's not an easy job. It requires 10,000 hours. I saw various moments
01:02:41.160where if Mark Carney wasn't completely protected by a liberal press, he would have been in deep,
01:02:45.960deep trouble. If he was conservative, I think his candidacy would have been buried if he'd been a
01:02:50.420conservative. There were too many moments, the semiconductor stuff. He got excited leaning
01:02:54.720against a bar and started saying things that were patently untrue wasn't really held to account for
01:02:59.120that he would say things that were obviously uh slipshod about his own background he was in denial
01:03:05.060about what he's done at g fans in the un and with climate policy and in his recommendations to this
01:03:10.220current government on fiscal and climate policy and i think that when you get into a boxing arena
01:03:15.640with somebody that's that's been training a lot like pierre polyev has had to and especially
01:03:20.820somebody like Pierre that has to fight against the tide of a dedicated left-leaning press that
01:03:26.780shares the same ideological presumptions that Mark Carney and Justin Trudeau do. Carney's lack of
01:03:33.100retail political skill is going to start to show and I don't think it's going to be as easy for
01:03:39.180him to get away with it even with a CBC desperate to let that happen. It's interesting that you say
01:03:43.960that because I picked up on that as well David like I think that Mark Carney is not very good
01:03:48.900at this. He's pretty low energy. He doesn't know how to speak like a politician does. Now that was
01:03:53.740a plus for someone like President Donald Trump because he didn't have, he wasn't like wrapped in
01:03:59.560political correctness, which is what we're just so used to hearing from our politicians, but he
01:04:03.400had like a more authentic way of speaking. And to Mark Carney, it's like the opposite. He doesn't
01:04:09.960know how to communicate in a way that resonates with people. So the press have to like play cover
01:04:15.660for him. I was interested to hear you say that you think that Pierre Polyev will win and he'll win
01:04:20.820a conservative because most people I talk to are not so confident. And what I think will happen,
01:04:26.940what I worry will happen, is that the way that the media have been sheltering Carney, the way
01:04:33.620that he's already running from independent journalists and doing absolutely anything in
01:04:37.740his power to make sure that we don't get anywhere close to him, and then the media act like it's a
01:04:43.520coronation. I think that they'll double and triple down like that, not to keep comparing it
01:04:47.800to what's happened in the United States. But in 2020, Joe Biden ran a campaign from his basement,
01:04:54.800like he was not anywhere. He was not seen. You did not know, like, I mean, we still don't really
01:05:01.480know like what his mental state was back then even. And he was able to get elected and become
01:05:09.100the president. They almost did it again with Kamala Harris, where she was so bad that they
01:05:13.320just wouldn't put her up. They wouldn't allow her to be interviewed. She would barely do events.
01:05:17.440The way that they would get their stadiums filled for her events was that they would tell people
01:05:22.360that it was a Beyonce concert just to literally get people in the door to make it seem like she
01:05:26.860had this momentum. And I mean, they didn't pull it off, but they almost did. And I think that the
01:05:32.120way that these things work, the powers that be, the institutions, like they will do everything
01:05:36.660in their power, particularly the CBC, knowing that if Pierre Polyaev is elected, they won't exist or
01:05:42.940they won't exist in the same way. Hopefully they can get completely defunded. They'll do everything
01:05:48.620they can to make sure that Mark Carney wins. So I want to ask you, what do you think is going to
01:05:53.960happen? Why are you so confident that you think that Pierre Polyaev will win a majority?
01:05:59.640Look, I think two things. I remember writing a little bit about what was happening in the U.S.
01:06:04.920election and uh i wrote some things that at the time were contrarian and i predicted trump would
01:06:10.360win a landslide and if you remember the the harris bump what there's three well i'll keep it short
01:06:17.880three things one is the pull of polls don't work because you've got polls that are heavily skewed
01:06:22.440but in canada it's ridiculously heavily skewed polls like ecos are so far in the tank for the
01:06:27.480liberal party that they're embarrassing and the way that they do that for for um um you know your
01:06:33.800listeners that don't understand how people can skew polls is they just change the sampling
01:06:37.960methodology to oversample categories that they now have a predilection for one party so if you
01:06:43.400oversample women you'll get a higher turnout for liberals etc and if you oversample certain
01:06:48.680regions or geographies and this happens a lot this is what was happening in the u.s
01:06:53.400with polls that had very large contracts with the government uh and it's what's happening here in
01:06:58.520canada i think when you look at there are there are polls that have come out that have shown
01:07:02.440preferences shifting in a way that's scary but i think that he has a disciplined team he's got a
01:07:08.760lot of cash what i hope that he does and i think his team is great so this isn't me second guessing
01:07:13.880a strategy that i'm not across but what i hope that he does he does something similar to what
01:07:18.280donald trump did which is just embrace all the podcasts go straight to the media that people
01:07:26.280love to listen to embrace the long-form podcast mark carney can't handle a long-form podcast
01:07:31.640kamala harris couldn't handle a long-form podcast donald trump uh this is anecdotal but i have i
01:07:37.320have friends that were in the initial bush administration was down there for the inauguration
01:07:41.080and met some of these guys and they had gone from being real never trumpers to having been
01:07:46.600had their mind really shifted by a set of long-form podcasts that had make them sort of accommodate
01:07:54.200trump's excesses because they saw that underneath a lot of his excessive behavior were policies that
01:08:00.360they thought were actually fundamentally good and when it came down to kamala harris or donald trump
01:08:05.480they were going to go with trump rather than harris whereas before they would have some had voted for
01:08:10.760biden and some had just not voted but they just found trump so distasteful on sort of an aesthetic
01:08:16.520that even though he had policies that they agreed with that they knew that he was borrowing that he
01:08:19.640was the head of their party they just found it untenable the podcast changed not only the people
01:08:25.560in the middle or the moderates and there's data showing just how much it shifted the moderates
01:08:29.960but it also really added to the conviction of the base and i think that's one of the most important
01:08:35.000features for pierre if you look at what happened in the uk election recently keir starmer got fewer
01:08:41.400votes than the previous labor party leader but he won a landslide and the reason that happened was
01:08:46.600that the tories stayed home the base had become so disenchanted with a feckless story party that had
01:08:52.520you know moved so far to the center that they were indistinguishable from labor and hadn't
01:08:56.600addressed the rape gangs in an open way hadn't addressed some of the trans issues openly hadn't
01:09:00.680been open about the immigration problem hadn't been straightforward about and these were things
01:09:04.920that they they could have won the election on the content of what they thought and believed
01:09:09.560as conservatives but they'd become such sort of notting hill squishes that they had lost the heart
01:09:14.440and soul of the party and the people that actually would vote for the party and so i think that there
01:09:20.040will be a dynamic in this election which is going to be all about getting the conservative base to
01:09:24.760understand that you're not a lookalike to the liberal party number one number two talking to
01:09:30.440all the people in the middle of the country that don't walk around with a red card or a blue card
01:09:35.480or an orange card in their wallet which is most people and being able to define what's going on
01:09:40.520in their schools and the conversations that are behind with their kids or being able to define
01:09:44.600why public services have deteriorated so badly in spite of a 70 percent more expensive
01:26:41.600where we can because only together will we win the fight for a strong canada who's with me
01:26:59.120Now who's ready? Now it's the moment to announce our new leader.
01:27:08.120To hand me the results, I'm happy to invite on stage Beatrice Keller-Rafoul, who has been serving as the Chief Electoral Officer for the vote and protecting the integrity of the process.
01:29:10.640In first place, the next Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney, with 131,674 votes, resulting in 29,457 allocated points, representing 85.9% of the votes.
01:29:40.640I know your fears are hidden well, beneath your wind, so don't be long, and leave me here, let me belong, and carry on, just cross the waters, I'll be okay,
01:30:05.640Cause I've been loved, I've been loved enough to die
02:06:09.180Together, we can and we will get through this crisis.
02:06:15.860We can and we will come out stronger than ever.
02:06:23.320And we will because Canada is built on the strength of its people.
02:06:31.260From our mines to our ports, from our logging roads to our city streets,
02:06:36.420We're strongest when we're united, when we're one economy, not 13, when we can cheer for different teams and still be on one team when it counts.
02:06:47.520When we come together, when we come together, we build things that last because we are Canada strong.
02:07:06.420that was kind of exactly what i expected mark carney to to say to try and distance himself
02:07:28.440from justin trudeau while not angering the membership so much as to say it's so explicitly
02:07:34.480how much of a disaster the last nine years were he saying that he's going to cancel the carbon tax
02:07:41.100without mentioning the fact that he's going to maintain an industrial carbon tax and probably
02:07:46.040jack that one up anyways just so that it can offset what they were gaining from the consumer
02:07:51.040carbon tax at the end of the day consumers are going to continue to pay more for what they're
02:07:55.500buying um what else do you what else did you get from that candace you're muted just a heads up on
02:08:02.860In there that he's undoing all of the policies that he was championing up to like five minutes ago. So they've managed a coup, basically, they have replaced Justin Trudeau with his economic advisor. And now all of a sudden, they have to switch his policies because Justin Trudeau's policies have destroyed Canada. So now he has to pretend that he doesn't agree with them, that he never agreed with them, even though he was the one pushing them all along.
02:08:25.980And we're going to see this drastic makeover of him, like as if he wasn't the person who was calling for carbon taxes and pushing the net zero approach all along.
02:08:35.040He did it in the UK. He's been doing it in Canada. He's been doing it.
02:08:38.460He was the one that was pushing it and advising Trudeau to do it. And they did it.
02:08:42.200And now, you know, we see we see like a totally different person up there.
02:08:46.760He was talking about how he goes to church. He was talking about how he, you know, has all this private sector experience.
02:08:53.500it was kind of funny key and at one moment he talked about how he he has private sector experience
02:08:58.460and pier poliev has never spent a day in the private sector and the audience erupts cheering
02:09:02.940it's like hello the liberals have just been run for 12 years by justin trudeau who never worked
02:09:08.460a day in his life really who every job he's ever gotten is because of his last name he didn't even
02:09:13.820pretend to have merit-based jobs like ever other than maybe he got hired merit-based to be like a
02:09:19.420a kayak instructor or something i don't know but he's never had he never had a serious job until
02:09:23.500he woke up and decided to be a member of parliament and decided to run for the liberal party which
02:09:27.580they handed to him so that you know the the to me that just showed like the liberals don't really
02:09:32.220stand for anything they don't really care about anything all they care about is winning all they
02:09:36.620care about is maintaining their power and ensuring that their power gets maintained and they're happy
02:09:41.340to go along with absolutely anything in order to get there and so that is what we saw just like we
02:09:46.860will say anything we will do anything just let us be in power give us the power we don't want to let
02:09:51.260it go we don't want to let us slip away and i mean hearing mark carney seeing seeing him up there
02:09:57.180you know i it's going to be a hell of a few months i think that hopefully what brian lee was saying
02:10:02.700earlier is true and that we will get to go to a general election at this point i don't think that
02:10:07.900this is a legitimate prime minister i don't think that he has any legitimacy over the canadian
02:10:12.460public even the fact that i mean he he was a coronation he got 89 of the vote but even just
02:10:18.540the fact that the liberal leadership race is open to anybody you don't have to pay any money so
02:10:23.500there's no like there's no real barrier to entry you don't even have to be a voting age before
02:10:29.180non-citizens can vote yeah you can be a permanent resident how many did how many how many citizens
02:10:34.860just chose my prime minister right and they still only got what 150 000 votes it's fewer people than
02:10:40.860and get our emails kian like our email list is bigger than the liberal party voting machine
02:10:45.900which i mean i think we're doing great at juno knows and anyone who's listening thank you so
02:10:49.740much for your support head on over to juno news and subscribe but the fact that 150 000 people
02:10:55.580were not even sure if they're canadian citizens or adults um were the ones that selected this
02:11:00.940person and i've been hearing on non-stop from people on x social media and just through my
02:11:06.380inbox people talking about how they struggled to vote in this race like people who are liberals
02:11:10.860who are part of the liberal party but there was some discrepancy in like the spelling of their
02:11:15.180first name or they put a nickname or you know they put dan and their licenses said daniel or
02:11:19.300something like that and all kinds of people who weren't able to vote who weren't so it's not even
02:11:23.900a secure process i don't think this is a legitimate prime minister he's not my prime minister i want
02:11:29.360an election i want election now and you know every single day this person is in power to me
02:11:34.240is another day that Canadians are like marching closer
02:11:38.440to the end of democracy in our country,
02:11:40.220if you can even call this a democracy.
02:11:43.320Yeah, you know, Justin Trudeau had some legitimacy, obviously.
02:11:46.380You know, he ran in a leadership race.
02:12:01.260and see the facts of the case and that he did deserve to be there.
02:12:06.800Mark Carney, you know, well, Justin Trudeau, to add this to the list of the illegitimacy
02:12:12.500of this prime minister, Trudeau suspended democracy for two, almost three months now.
02:12:20.020We have not had a functioning democracy.
02:12:22.760Our representatives that we elect and pay for have been getting paid to do nothing.
02:12:27.460They've actually been held outside of the House of Commons, unable to do their job, unable to pull the government down and pull us to an election.
02:12:35.340Justin Trudeau has had absolute authority over this country so that the Liberal Party apparatchiks could choose who was going to replace them.
02:12:44.280They could calm the waters, make sure Canadians didn't rise up, make sure they weren't able to speak, get anything done that they wanted to get done in terms of replacing a government.
02:12:53.920And now they've installed this person who, through some backroom negotiations with Jagmeet Singh, seems to have at least the support of the NDP for the time being to maintain his job.
02:13:08.220So whether there's going to be an election or not, I don't know.
02:13:11.260But all I know is Mark Carney is an illegitimate prime minister.
02:13:14.420He does not deserve to be called a prime minister.
02:13:17.020He does not deserve a portrait in parliament.
02:13:20.060he doesn't deserve the salary, and he has no right to be making executive decisions on behalf
02:13:25.240of a G7 country right now. Calling it a democracy is a farce. I couldn't agree more. And I mean,
02:13:32.120just the entire episode, the fact that everybody is just going along with it, like the media don't
02:13:35.820mind, the insiders don't mind, like it's just like, hey, this is totally normal. You can just
02:13:39.920pro-parliament, spend democracy, fix your own party internally, like put us on hold so that you
02:13:45.540can try to figure out a new leader. It's a total farce. So I just want to play this clip. First
02:13:50.880of all, this is Justin Trudeau announcing his resignation all the way back on January 6th. You
02:13:55.080know, he could have just called an election on January 6th. We would have a legitimate prime
02:13:58.540minister at this point. Hey, maybe it'd be a liberal, maybe not, but we would have a legitimate
02:14:01.860prime minister. So this is what he had to say back on January 6th. I intend to resign as party leader,
02:14:09.420as prime minister after the party selects its next leader through a robust nationwide competitive
02:14:18.640process. And then I want to go to this one because after President Trump was elected in the United
02:14:26.560States, not just winning the Electoral College, but he won the popular vote as well, which is rare
02:14:30.840for a Republican given the demographics of the United States and how big California and New York
02:14:35.380are. Just Trudeau just decided to like rub salt in the wounds of the relationship between Canada
02:14:40.360and the U.S. And he gets up and he defends Kamala Harris and basically scolds the American public
02:14:46.220for not electing a female president. First of all, any questions that you have about the relationship
02:14:51.960between Trump and Trudeau, Trudeau is the aggravator. He is always the aggressor. He is
02:14:56.320always the one trying to stick it to Donald Trump. And so anything Donald Trump is seeing now is
02:15:02.080always a reaction to the things that Trudeau has been saying for a decade now. But this specifically
02:15:06.420I want to play this clip. This is what he had to say about him being a proud feminist and a woman
02:15:12.240not being elected in the States. Let's play that clip. Now it shouldn't be that way. It wasn't
02:15:17.800supposed to be that way. We were supposed to be on a steady if difficult sometimes march towards
02:15:24.220progress. And yet, just a few weeks ago, the United States voted for a second time to not
02:15:32.020elect its first woman president. Everywhere, women's rights and women's progress is under
02:15:39.540attack, overtly and subtly. But I want you to know that I am, and always will be, a proud
02:15:46.560feminist. You will always have an ally in me and in my government.
02:15:50.840isn't that so funny just so yeah the proud feminist over there hello your party just did
02:15:57.000not just failed to elect its first female prime minister as well go ahead kim well exactly that
02:16:03.320uh trudeau's abuse of women over the past nine years has just spoken for itself um he's called
02:16:09.320himself a feminist because he's covering up for the fact that he punches when he punches women in
02:16:15.080the boob and he sexually assaults people like bros knight um justin trudeau is not a feminist he's
02:16:21.480not a friend of women and in fact when women speak up he fires them so set that aside what you just
02:16:28.580mentioned is true two women were on the ballot one of them stood up justin trudeau and he threw
02:16:34.200everything he could up behind her opponent to stop her from becoming the first liberal female prime
02:16:40.840minister uh in this country uh so so it doesn't it's it's just laughable i'll put it that way
02:16:47.740well it is and i mean you're right he he doesn't exactly have a great record when it comes to
02:16:53.480women the whole idea when he first got elected was that he was going to have a gender balanced
02:16:57.060cabinet um you know and he was asked why he couldn't explain it he was always just about
02:17:02.400platitudes uh with trudeau so let's let's play this clip why do you have a gender balanced
02:17:07.040cabinet to justin trudeau i understand one of the priorities for you was to have a cabinet
02:17:13.120that was gender balanced why was that so important to you because it's 2015.
02:17:26.080and that's it that's all that's all it takes just this current year therefore feminism
02:17:30.000and of course how did that work out for justin trudeau well i think like half of those female
02:17:33.760cabinets had to resign either because they didn't see eye to eye with trudeau or because they were
02:17:38.480totally incompetent or had no business being there i'm thinking of someone like mariam monsef
02:17:42.640uh who wasn't even from the place that she said that she was from she said she was afghanistan
02:17:47.040uh refugee it turns out she was pouring in iran like she didn't even get her own biography correct
02:17:52.000but anyways trudeau is always putting the optics first always putting feminism first and then to
02:17:57.360the point about rose knight um well you know she she came out she had written an op-ed in her own
02:18:03.520newspaper saying that he was it was unwelcomed what he was doing and he basically had to admit it
02:18:08.640this is what he had to say about the allegations by the individual that he had groped her while
02:18:14.400she was working for a newspaper working at a festival and he was coming on to her let's play
02:18:20.160that clip i'm confident that i did not act inappropriately but i think the essence of this
02:18:28.000is that people can experience interactions differently and part of the lesson we need to
02:18:34.840learn in this time of collective awakening is a level of respect and understanding for the fact
02:18:42.300that people in many cases women experience interactions in professional context in other
02:18:49.880contexts differently than men he was sort of the expert at that key and anytime that he was caught
02:18:56.040doing something atrocious he would just sort of collectively say like well we all know better now
02:19:00.920he did it with blackface too it's like well we we didn't know back then that it wasn't appropriate
02:19:05.960and you know she experienced it differently than me it's like and and yet he gets away with it like
02:19:11.320when i go back and look at these clips and i look at the way that he behaved the record that he had
02:19:15.720i mean back then it was more like he was a joke he was a butt of a joke he was not a serious
02:19:19.720person and the media let him get away with it i think later on in his prime ministership he
02:19:23.720it became darker like during covid and during the orders and the way he treated the unvaccinated the
02:19:28.600way he treated the truckers uh but it's just like the guy could get away with absolutely anything
02:19:33.720and it makes me truly worried about what they will let mark carney get away with what do you think
02:19:39.960i think that that's exactly why they're going to go for an earlier earlier election so that
02:19:45.160there's not an opportunity to audit mark carney's history we said it earlier in this program they
02:19:51.000all they want us to know is his wikipedia page international banker worked for stephen harper
02:19:56.840wow maybe he's even a conservative i don't know but the answer is that we need more answers uh we
02:20:03.080need to be able to ask him and interrogate him why do you think you deserve to be uh the head of a
02:20:09.640of a g7 country why why should our uh military be at your control why should our economy be at your
02:20:16.040fingertips um he can't really answer those questions right now because uh any any answer
02:20:22.120he gives will will hurt him well exactly and so the less we know about him the better and even just
02:20:28.520that different side of him that we were seeing today like all of a sudden he's opposed to carbon
02:20:32.120taxes like okay that's like he's written book he's written a book his book values was all about
02:20:36.680how the globe just needs to like accept it he made a passing reference to the idea that
02:20:41.080uh that pierre polyev uh didn't uh didn't was gonna let the planet burn um so so so presumably
02:20:48.600he hasn't softened his views when it comes to climate change and perhaps the need to take
02:20:54.680drastic action it just presumably won't come in the form of a carbon tax which i mean okay so
02:21:02.360we're supposed to buy that we're supposed to buy into this idea that he's opposed to the carbon tax
02:21:06.680I mean, he's going to replace it with something else.
02:26:41.920You know, in my time as a member of parliament, prior to my time as well, we would have caucus meetings.
02:26:46.160And those caucus meetings included the prime minister, the cabinet ministers, some senators, and of course the caucus members and no one else.
02:26:52.220Same except someone from the whip's office who would bring in notes or whatever messages that you might have to send out or bring back in.
02:26:59.460But it was pretty much closed confines.
02:32:35.140The Toronto Sun asked for clarification as to what he meant by saying that he helped Paul Martin balance the books.
02:32:40.780And they said, well, he was working for the Ministry of Finance in 2004.
02:32:44.660So, you know, he was a bureaucrat, not exactly the one balance in the book, but he sort of claimed to have an outsized role there.
02:32:52.460Do you think him sort of paying homage to that time and those leaders in the Liberal Party mean that perhaps he is serious about balancing the budget?
02:34:27.980so all of this means to me when I saw that I thought this is shameless self-promotion by Mark
02:34:32.260Carney then I heard he said 1998 that he had something to do with balancing the budget is
02:34:35.840you quite right I mean wow the extent to which this prepared this person is prepared to be
02:34:40.160mendacious is a very troubling sign that he was not able to be taken on as seriously as he was
02:34:45.820as he should have been during the leadership tells you it was a slam dunk it was a coronation
02:34:49.840that's exactly what it is but he won't have the same ability to evade these tough questions
02:34:55.020especially the one where he says, I'm going to stand up to Donald Trump.
02:34:57.780Yeah, but you sent 4,000 jobs at Brookfield down there under your watch.
02:35:00.940So there's a lot on Mark Carney here, I know, that's been discussed by previous guests.
02:35:04.900I will be looking from the perspective of knowing what we did from 1993 to 2011
02:35:09.200and contrast that with what he pretends to have done,
02:35:13.580which in my view, he wasn't there for those things,
02:35:15.940nor should he claim any type of credit for anything,
02:35:18.460no more than the other Liberal MP or any other member of Parliament at the time.
02:35:21.960Well, it's wild too, Dan, that he gets away with it, right? Like you would expect a free press and a free society to have these kinds of questions, to be ready for these kinds of questions. I mean, even just the way that Ruby Dalla was tossed out of the leadership race, for reasons that are still unclear, after one of a former chief of staff of the Liberal Party was on the CBC a few days earlier saying that she hopes that the party finds a legitimate way to disqualify her before the debates,
02:35:51.740because they were worried that she would turn the debates into quote a circus so basically they were
02:35:57.020worried that ruby dolly ruby doll might ask questions that would appear to what uh unravel
02:36:05.260the the the the whatever's around mark cardi to allow us to see a different side of him or i mean
02:36:11.180to me it's just so controlled it wasn't a free and open and robust competition as justin trudeau
02:36:16.860promised when he resigned on january 6th he said it would be an open robust and it wasn't
02:36:21.660it just wasn't they didn't allow people in the media weren't allowed in independent journalists
02:36:26.140weren't allowed in everything was very tightly scripted and it just it to me it's it's unbelievable
02:36:31.900that that they let him get away with this um can you talk about what the media's role in all of
02:36:37.020this has been well it's pretty clear that many people uh chose not to pick that issue up and
02:36:42.380one has to ask why because they've left themselves wide open to the accusation which i think is very
02:36:47.340fair that they are you know they're paid very well to to look after those who've been they
02:36:52.380who've been looking after them for the past decade the degree to which they do not like perhaps the
02:36:57.180message that it's time to rein in uh you know freebies for the press uh it goes equally with
02:37:03.020some of the pollsters out there who've done extraordinarily well uh under the liberal regime
02:37:07.420the kd telfords of this world who've been out giving out money to every tom dick and harry out
02:37:11.580there in terms of surveys in terms of wonderful things that have made them hundreds if not
02:37:17.100millions of dollars uh in uh in contracts so a lot of people have a lot to lose kendis by a new
02:37:23.500government that is prepared to say all right we you know you stand or fall on your own merits
02:37:28.700and that's going to be a very tough uh message for many to swallow many are being told now
02:37:33.820stand up otherwise the grift will end and let's call it what it is it is grifting it's basically
02:37:39.100i'm going to support you scratch my back i'll scratch yours so if you don't i'm going to
02:37:42.780scratch your eyes out and that's exactly what's happened here i think increasingly uh they want
02:37:47.820to create an impression of something that doesn't exist and they're doing so because they have
02:37:51.660access to the public monies the moment that gets cut off they're gone and as irrelevant as many of
02:37:57.340their statements and their willingness to overlook uh very serious uh comments that mr kearney and
02:38:03.180others have made and mr kearney uh is looking a lot worse than say the accusations went against
02:38:34.460this company off to New York. If that's
02:38:36.680way in which you create jobs in canada and you want to stand up for canadians and make things
02:38:40.360better i can't think of the worst way to to imagine that because in the optics on this are
02:38:44.360very terrible the next thing of course is will be what happens just a couple of weeks when the
02:38:48.120carbon taxes kick in yes he'll probably get rid of it but he wants to impose it on business he
02:38:52.360wants to hide it and he wants to force uh business to make decisions to leave this country there's a
02:38:57.400lot to go on mr uh on mr carney and if i know that just from where i stand i'm not part of any
02:39:03.080particular political organization. But if I know that, I can only imagine that the Conservatives
02:39:08.020and others are going to pounce on this. And by the way, a final note to my good friends in the NDP,
02:39:13.000a new Democrat voting for a banker, that'll be very rare.
02:39:15.860Well, it's such a strange optic, right? Because Justin Trudeau moved the party to the left,
02:39:20.320and he seemed like a person of the left. So it sort of made sense that NDP and Liberals would
02:39:25.120have this coalition, and that Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singer is sort of cut from the same cloth.
02:39:29.100But yeah, when you put in Mark Carney, the central banker, the wealthy international businessman, we don't even know what companies he still owns shares and we don't know where his financial interests are. He said he was off of all the boards and then it turned out that he was still on a few. He hasn't been completely straight about that. And again, typically you would have a free press that was out there digging and reporting and demanding answers and they wouldn't sort of let him get away with this. And yet they completely have.
02:39:57.640And I wonder, like, even just the idea that we are in this existential threat from the Americans because Donald Trump is being so unreasonable.
02:40:06.120I mean, that's what the narrative in Canada is, this idea that Canada is like a total Boy Scout and we haven't done anything wrong.
02:40:12.720I mean, I think that Canada needs to start looking internally at so many of the subsidies and the protections that we have on our own industry.
02:40:18.800I mean, you mentioned that there's so much corporate welfare within the Liberal Party and that's so much of how they govern and what they believe in, including right up into the press.
02:40:26.700they'll literally pay off the media in order to get the kind of coverage that they want and
02:40:31.020continue that i worry that in in an election between liberals and conservatives both parties
02:40:37.180are just sort of going to the highest bidder like like if if the liberals are running a platform to
02:40:42.140double the budget of the cbc and the conservatives are trying to say we're going to cut the cbc
02:40:47.020it's just it's not going to be a fair fight at all and i i also just wonder about um mark carney
02:40:53.660and that story with Brookfield about whether it's resonating or not. We had a guest earlier who said
02:40:57.340that it was probably too complicated and Canadians don't really understand it. I think it's an
02:41:02.860important story because if the narrative of this election and if we're going into an election
02:41:07.500and the whole idea is who can protect Canada from President Trump, how can you possibly go
02:41:13.500with the banker who already moved his own business into the states? And we've seen this in the past
02:41:18.460end there was a clip from I think 2021 where Pierre Polyev had Mark Carney at a committee and
02:41:23.740he was asking him you know why is it that you support pipeline bans in Canada but you your
02:41:29.020company invests in pipelines in all these other countries and Carney sort of tried to give a
02:41:34.380convoluted answer about how global markets are different and that every country has its own
02:41:38.940standards or something like that but you know the bottom line is that this person doesn't support
02:41:44.060growth in canada and yet judging by his investments and where he puts his money he's okay with all
02:41:49.820kinds of stuff in other countries do you think the canadian public are going to see this kind
02:41:54.460of thing do you think this message is getting through to canadians the trump tariffs have
02:41:59.260demonstrated to canadians the need to build pipelines so this man's message isn't just about
02:42:03.180having to walk back the idea of building pipelines and blocking them this man has also made it very
02:42:08.700clear that he's going to find the financial means to strangle uh the oil and gas sector our number
02:42:14.620one producer of revenues to pay our social programs has been compromised by mark carney
02:42:21.100if it were up to him or not for trump i'm sure he'd be doubling down on that but he is going to
02:42:26.220continue the pain that canadians cannot afford under this myth and i you know i'll take debate
02:42:31.500anybody this because they're not basing on science they were uh they wouldn't be making the comments
02:42:35.980that they do about CO2 and things like that.
02:42:38.340But Mark Herney is using an opportunity
02:42:40.620given to him by international organizations,
02:42:54.040while at the same time sacrificing our ability
02:42:56.840to get our energy and our other products to market.
02:43:00.320And he's not the type of person I think
02:43:02.180that you want to have in that kind of circumstance
02:43:04.400because he's beholden to another agenda driven by another organization around the world.
02:43:09.400And I think that's very dangerous for a country to allow itself to be subject to the whims of an organization
02:43:15.540or organizations that are committed to reducing our ability to get energy
02:43:20.120and their product to market is extraordinarily damaging to Canadians.
02:43:23.920And no Canadian who believes in a strong, viable energy or our manufacturing sector
02:43:32.240or our mining sector or our farming sector all those things are under attack under Mark Carney's
02:43:36.240idea of net zero and for that reason if you look very carefully at what he said he's not going to
02:43:41.440be able to defend the idea that he can grow the economy without first suffocating it and if that's
02:43:45.200what he's going to do then the Canadians have to make a real tough decision and this idea that
02:43:49.200oh he's nice and oh he's not as mean or he's not as tough and we need someone who's
02:43:54.320likable he's a new face better get over themselves because I tell you right now most people can't
02:43:59.200afford what has happened to this country this next generation is taking over is receiving not only
02:44:03.680massive debts they have no jobs they have no opportunities and if grandparent liberals of
02:44:08.800my generation believe that it's okay to saddle your kids and your grandchildren uh with these
02:44:13.360kind of debts because it's all about you and it's all about your vision you're all about your
02:44:17.120narrative you failed and you're failing them and you ought to stop long before you do any damage
02:44:22.080to the next generation that's such a good way of putting it i want to bring it back because the
02:44:25.920idea like to me it's very concerning that mark carney was a chair and board member on the world
02:44:31.200economic forum i think that it raises serious legitimate concerns it doesn't seem like the
02:44:35.360liberals or the media take that seriously at all like there was a podcast between mark carney and
02:44:40.800mp nate nate smith where they were kind of laughing about it and almost kind of he was
02:44:44.400kind of boasting about how like he played this outsized role in the world economic forum um
02:44:49.360there's a there's a clip that was going sort of viral and it was really telling of a journalist
02:44:55.120trying to ask danielle smith like what was premier of alberta daniel smith like what what do you have
02:44:59.920against the world economic forum like what is it that you don't like and she basically just said
02:45:04.800look i don't like billionaires bragging about how they control politicians like i don't think that's
02:45:10.880a good idea like i don't know how more clear we can spell it out to people about this organization
02:45:16.640and it's like they don't they they don't see anything wrong and they like the fact that he's
02:45:20.880part of the world economic forum what do you think of that well i think canadians who surrendered to
02:45:25.280the idea that some other people should uh you know should should somehow control our destiny
02:45:30.240or manage our destiny is uh is basically ignorance and it's willingness to basically uh lie down
02:45:36.240prostrate before people who uh uh who frankly don't have our interests at heart when it comes
02:45:40.640down to it these people would like to have have a very significant agenda and it's not theirs it's
02:45:45.360for the wealthy for the rich but most importantly it's also about control it's authoritarianism
02:45:50.320It's about the need. How do we get someone elected as prime minister without even having a seat, much less, you know, you know, a chance to be tested in the polls?
02:45:59.660Now, I'm sure Mr. Carney will play that in the next few weeks.
02:46:02.080But in the meantime, we have a we have a scenario that's played out in which, you know, one of the chosen ones from the WEF, from the United Nations Climate Agenda Group, has now basically got Canada.
02:46:14.540They're going to use Canada as a pawn and an example of saying, hey, if we can achieve it in Canada, we can achieve it elsewhere.
02:46:19.440at a time in which the world is reeling, Europe is walking away from green energy and the net zero
02:46:24.300policies, at a time in which Asia is ignoring it to a large extent, at a time in which our own
02:46:29.840economic future dictates that we can't and we must resist those who have this woke idea about
02:46:35.640you know somehow you know a particular molecule should somehow stifle an economy. If that's what
02:46:41.900Canadians want and are simply oblivious to well I can only suggest that they are going to inflict
02:46:47.300even greater pain on themselves but i know for a fact that a party that has spent three elections
02:46:52.980in 10 years and brought the economy literally to its knees and made kenny's scent have a sense that
02:46:58.100things are not going well is not likely to be returned it doesn't matter what kind of uh you
02:47:03.300know if you will uh what kind of lipstick lipstick you put on the pig the reality is you cannot turn
02:47:08.980a you know a silk purse uh you know a silk person uh that's right i use the expression you can't
02:47:15.300use the cells here to to make a silk person i think for a lot of canadians it's over and once
02:47:19.860the pollsters get over themselves a few weeks into this and it's a strong push back in the campaign
02:47:24.260and more people coming out saying this guy is wrong this is a man who's gonna be very dangerous
02:47:28.900to the country i think canadians will awaken look the country's broke it cannot continue down this
02:47:34.020road and anybody who believes that it can and more of the same as we've seen for the past 10 years
02:47:39.140is deluding and kidding themselves and as i said earlier if it happens to be a particular
02:47:42.900constituency people you know who have been of a particular age nice pensions got everything looked
02:47:48.500after shame on you for basically betraying the next generation because that's exactly what you're
02:47:53.940doing by voting liberal in the next election well it's so heartbreaking to see i spend time online
02:47:58.340and you know seeing young canadians people posting things like i saw something on tiktok the other day
02:48:03.940about a young man who's basically his rent was just raised he said to 92 of his salary and it's
02:48:09.460like he's you know he's got kids and he's got a family and it's like how can you survive in this
02:48:14.500economy it's so sad one of the things that was so stark in that speech that mark carney gave
02:48:19.940and was it i feel like i just don't know him very well like i watch politics every day i watch it
02:48:24.260for a living i do a live news show every single day we've spent a lot of the time over the last
02:48:29.460eight weeks trying to get to know mark carney and i don't really know i don't know if he's woke he
02:48:34.260said that he's woke. There was a clip of him saying that in the United States, they have a
02:48:39.140war on woke, but not in Canada. We're going to prioritize inclusion. Like, I don't know what
02:48:43.660that means. Like, what is his view on whether boys can become girls or what is his view on
02:48:48.600just any number of things? Like he hasn't been asked these kinds of questions. We don't really
02:48:54.120even know what his economic position is because the point that you made, he's sort of exaggerated
02:48:58.820and inflated his his role so we don't know if he's going to be more like a like a paul liberal or
02:49:04.500maybe even like a stephen harper jim flarity or if he's over on the justin trudeau side he's been
02:49:08.980advising justin trudeau for the last many years he seems like he is trying to be all things to
02:49:14.620all people and the point of an election is to get to know the leader to get to know who he is and
02:49:20.840how he thinks and what kind of decisions he will make and it's such again just to go back to this
02:49:25.180to disservice that the media has done to not even prod and push
02:49:29.420and try to get answers to make him sit down for interviews
02:50:45.140I suspect he's going to have to call the election
02:50:47.020nice and early. I'm with Brian Lilly on this one. I heard him earlier. I think you're going to get
02:50:52.040the election call at least within the next fortnight. And I think that would mean that
02:50:56.740you got an election just after Easter. So for a lot of people out there, you're going to have a
02:51:01.060chance. And this is going to be a no holds barred campaign. We know that those who are not going to
02:51:06.420cover the real issues that are coming out there have an agenda. Let's understand that from the
02:51:11.700outset. It'll be up to folks like you and me to come out and say they have an agenda, they have
02:51:16.640conflict of interest don't expect them to be honest or objective about this particular campaign
02:51:21.440what is clear to canadians is that they need a change and they need for once and for a very
02:51:26.720refreshing period of time some objectivity in the way things are being reported i don't expect that
02:51:31.600to happen for people who know full well that should uh there be a poly of government their
02:51:36.240jobs are on the line well thank you so much uh for your time really appreciate i'll have to have you
02:51:40.480back on again there dan so that's dan mcteague who was a member of parliament for 18 years
02:51:45.360in ontario in the riding of pickering scarborough east for the liberal party uh the liberal party
02:51:50.320not not the same liberal party today uh in name but uh probably not in ideas or in spirit uh dan
02:51:55.520thanks so much for joining the show appreciate you all right everybody well thank you so much
02:52:00.800for tuning in we're really excited about election i hope dan is right i hope brian lily is right and
02:52:04.560i hope that we are heading into an election because canada desperately needs one like i
02:52:08.960said earlier to kian bexty i don't believe that mark carney is the legitimate prime minister of
02:52:14.000I don't believe that you can come in, that you can prorogue Parliament, that you can pause the democracy so you can rebuild your party and put in someone who has a very checkered past that we don't know enough about, that has been the advisor, economic advisor to Justin Trudeau.
02:52:29.220You can't just swap out an unpopular leader, put in his economic advisor and expect us to all just go along with it.
02:52:36.040This is not how democracy is supposed to work.