Juno News - February 05, 2025


LIVE: Poilievre wants LIFE SENTENCES for big drug dealers (with Brian Lilley)


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show, another special live edition of
00:00:16.360 The Candice Malcolm Show. We just have so much news to cover. It's unbelievable these days. It's
00:00:20.380 like every, you know, every half an hour, there's like a brand new big breaking news story. So we're
00:00:24.860 going to do our best to cover it all. We're going to talk about PolyEv. We're going to talk about
00:00:29.440 fentanyl. We'll talk about tariffs. We're going to get into Justin Trudeau's latest announcement,
00:00:33.900 which is that he's setting up a Canada-U.S. economic summit. No, not parliament, not resuming
00:00:39.520 parliament, not giving us an election and let us actually select who's going to represent us.
00:00:43.920 He's just going to hand select a few elites and they're going to sit and talk about what we should
00:00:48.740 do here. Unbelievable. We'll hopefully later in the show get to Trump, what he's said about Gaza
00:00:54.840 and what's happening down there and we will talk about the Ontario election. I'm very pleased today
00:01:00.840 to be joined for the whole show by one of my favorite journalists in Canada, talking about
00:01:04.600 Brian Lilly. He's a journalist, author and broadcaster. He is, actually yesterday we had
00:01:11.000 Chris Sims on and she was working with me back in the Sun News days. Brian is sort of like the
00:01:17.240 original Sun News host and he's a tremendous journalist. So Brian, thank you so much for
00:01:22.360 joining us today oh thank you you know someone else was just telling me about chatting with crims
00:01:27.720 chris simms and i said uh she was actually an intern with me uh in radio in cfra back in ottawa
00:01:33.800 so uh long connections with you and chris great to see you again great to uh to join you yeah it's
00:01:39.640 great it's so fun to have you on the show and so i think the main story that we're going to talk
00:01:43.560 about uh today brian is pierre polyev's recent announcement so he uh put this out this morning
00:01:50.280 He's going to be going live later in the day at 12.30 p.m. Eastern time.
00:01:53.760 So we will keep an eye on that.
00:01:55.620 But for now, we'll tell you that Pierre Polyev released a video this morning saying that if elected as prime minister, he would impose life sentences for fentanyl kingpins.
00:02:06.620 So let's play a bit of that video.
00:02:08.720 He drives home this point that making and selling fentanyl is mass murder and that our laws and our criminal justice system should treat it that way.
00:02:17.400 So let's play this clip.
00:02:20.280 I call mass fentanyl trafficking what it is. Mass murder. Selling 40 milligrams of this poison is enough to kill 20 people. It's like spraying bullets into a crowd. You might not know who you are killing, but statistically, it's certain that someone will die.
00:02:36.380 That's why I'm announcing today, as part of my Canada First plan, that Common Sense Conservatives will bring in mandatory prison sentences, including life sentences for anyone caught trafficking, producing or exporting over 40 milligrams of fentanyl and 15 years for traffickers caught with between 20 milligrams and 40 milligrams.
00:03:00.300 So, Brian, what do you think of Pierre's announcement today?
00:03:04.120 I think it's fantastic. And part of the announcement is also repealing the liberal law Bill C5. And I was just looking up on my phone. You know, Bill C5 goes hand in hand with what's been happening because we've reduced our mandatory minimum sentences on drug laws that would affect how these drug kingpins are treated. But also the guys running fentanyl
00:03:34.120 are responsible for the increase in gun crime that we see. So many of our issues, well beyond
00:03:40.100 and long before Donald Trump raised fentanyl at the Canadian border, and we've still got the
00:03:44.840 Globe and Mail out there saying, oh no, no, we're not a problem. Look at our front page. We're not
00:03:49.360 a problem. Fentanyl is a problem in Canada. We should be dealing with this. And the only person
00:03:55.160 that's been talking about this federally is Pierre Pagliere. And he's been talking about it for some
00:04:01.040 time. He's put out videos about this before. He's talked about the opioid problem in our cities.
00:04:07.540 And you can think that this is just a problem in Vancouver's downtown east side. You can think it's
00:04:13.180 just a problem in Toronto. No, small and medium sized cities are devastated. Belleville here in
00:04:19.400 Ontario, Lethbridge. I mean, look, I haven't looked at the stats since Premier Daniel Smith did and
00:04:26.840 and her former chief of staff, Marshall Smith, did the big reboot of how Alberta deals with
00:04:32.460 drug overdoses. But Lethbridge was devastated by the opioid crisis, both fentanyl and the
00:04:38.920 dillies that the government was handing out. So yes, we should be dealing with this,
00:04:43.940 not just for the border, but for what it's doing to Canadians. It's funny, I reposted
00:04:49.660 Pierre's video and said, this is exactly right, and it's what we should be doing.
00:04:55.100 and people started saying, well, Poliev's never talked about this before. He's been talking about
00:04:59.240 it for two years. It's like saying, oh, he's never talked about inflation before. Of course he has.
00:05:03.580 So I think this is a smart move. The liberals have gone down the road of soft on crime. And
00:05:13.280 that can sound like it's just a trite slogan. Bill C-5 took away mandatory minimum sentences
00:05:19.920 for gun smuggling and selling illegal guns and drug trafficking crimes. And in some cases,
00:05:26.340 the mandatory minimum only existed on your second or third conviction, Candace.
00:05:31.500 Can you believe that? Where they say, oh, you know, we have to get rid of this because it's
00:05:35.980 for youthful indiscretion. They made a mistake. I'm sorry, you're caught smuggling guns three
00:05:39.920 times. That's not youthful indiscretion. Well, it's interesting because I listened to
00:05:45.980 Paulio's full video and I encourage the audience to go and listen to it as well. It's about seven
00:05:49.520 minutes long. And he mentioned C5. And I thought, hmm, which one is C5? Because, you know, they all
00:05:53.920 sound the same. And so it's like, which I couldn't remember exactly what it was. So I looked it up,
00:05:57.740 and I had to go back a couple of years in reporting to see what it was. So this is how
00:06:03.620 the CBC described it. It said liberals introduced legislation to end some mandatory minimum
00:06:08.560 sentences. The bill would affect 14 criminal code sections and six drug-related offenses.
00:06:14.920 so that's the CBC there and then the Globe and Mail had a different way of framing it so I'm
00:06:21.280 going to read from the Globe and Mail the headline here says Trudeau promises to address high rates
00:06:26.540 of Indigenous incarceration so there you go kind of giving it all away this is all part of their
00:06:31.660 social justice regime Brian let me just read a little bit from this article as Prime Minister
00:06:36.220 Justin Trudeau says the over-representation of Indigenous women in federal prisons is appalling
00:06:41.240 And the government's push to eliminate some mandatory sentences will help address it.
00:06:46.220 And so it goes on to say that half of the women in federal prisons are Indigenous, but that's only 5%.
00:06:52.160 Indigenous women only make up 5% of the population.
00:06:56.340 And so somehow it was because of Indigenous women.
00:07:00.620 I don't understand, you know, that the specific bill said it would repeal 20 mandatory minimum sentences, mostly for drug and gun crime.
00:07:10.800 So somehow under the guise of saying, you know, there's too many indigenous women in prison, I guess he's saying that the reason that they're in prison is because of gun and drug crimes.
00:07:20.260 I don't know why indigenous women are getting caught with drugs and guns unless they're actually not.
00:07:26.160 Well, not on the scale that we're dealing with.
00:07:28.640 Yeah. And so this is all kind of like reverse engineering, like social Marxism, basically, that we have to have a quality of outcome.
00:07:35.880 And because the outcome of these drug laws are that women, too many indigenous women go to jail, we have to get rid of them all.
00:07:41.140 And look what look what's happened over the last two, three years because of it, Brian.
00:07:45.420 So Justice Minister David Lamedi brought it in.
00:07:48.700 And, you know, from my recollection of the reporting and from what you've just read, most of my colleagues writing on this did not go past the press release because that's how the liberals framed it.
00:08:00.580 indigenous women, young black men being caught up in the justice system. Oh, you know, they made a
00:08:06.680 mistake. Again, I say to you, if you are caught three times and convicted of smuggling or selling
00:08:18.080 illegal guns or trafficking at an industrial scale in drugs, that's not a youthful indiscretion.
00:08:25.500 So yes, they wrapped it up in social justice and sold it. And most of the media didn't go
00:08:31.180 past the press release. Or if they did, they said, oh, this is for minority in social justice. Let's
00:08:39.260 go talk to activists from those groups. They didn't sit there and go through the legislation
00:08:44.220 and say, because it's very difficult, by the way, when you get a piece of legislation like C5,
00:08:49.980 it doesn't tell you in plain language what it's taking out it'll tell you uh this section is
00:08:56.940 replaced by this well you have to go into the the actual criminal code look up the section and then
00:09:01.500 see what they're replacing it with and it becomes quite shocking and that's why i was writing at the
00:09:05.900 time this is this is utter insanity this is hug a thug catch and release um you know but there was
00:09:13.420 a court uh court case that knocked down some mandatory minimum sentences but it didn't knock
00:09:18.940 down the mall so they used a combination of court case saying that some mandatory minimums went too
00:09:24.700 far and those were some horrific decisions by the supreme court that were purely political um there
00:09:31.020 was one guy in alberta stoned out of his tree uh walking down the street with a rifle shooting at
00:09:38.140 a house with uh two parents and two kids inside and so he was um charged he was convicted they
00:09:47.900 They appealed. And based on the hypothetical, what the courts call a reasonable hypothetical,
00:09:54.540 which is completely unreasonable, and they just make it up, they said, well, this law goes too
00:10:00.740 far because it could be used against someone caught with an airsoft gun. So therefore,
00:10:07.160 the entire mandatory minimum has to be thrown out. So the liberals took that decision,
00:10:11.320 wrapped it up in social justice with saying indigenous women and black men are too overrepresented
00:10:18.400 and took away common sense mandatory minimums so that that's why i think both on the life
00:10:25.160 sentences for drug kingpins and getting rid of c5 i think paliev is on to something and i think the
00:10:30.840 public mood is going to be with them and a lot of people who voted for justin trudeau in the past
00:10:35.600 will look at his promise and say yeah that makes sense and then they'll look at the liberals what
00:10:40.220 they've been doing on it, their response to the entire fentanyl crisis has been to put more
00:10:46.120 opioids into our communities through these so-called safe supply, give them hydromorphone
00:10:53.140 pills, which hasn't worked. I completely agree. I think that Canadians are done with this, right?
00:10:58.460 Like I think when Bill C-5 was introduced, it was 2022, it was still sort of the zeitgeist was like
00:11:03.480 social justice and woke politicians. And it was also in the wake of the unmarked graves hoax and
00:11:09.960 moral panic that was happening around there so i think the idea of anything to help first nations
00:11:15.080 canadians said okay uh sure uh whereas you know things have really changed and i think
00:11:19.560 a lot a large part of that is donald trump driving the agenda driving the narrative to say well i
00:11:25.400 think it was changing in canada on this stuff even before trump but you know he adds to it
00:11:31.720 he has so yeah so polyev says that canada has become a drug manufacturing hot spot super labs
00:11:37.160 in canada synthesize the drugs using precursor chemicals and the ingredients make fentanyl so
00:11:42.760 the video again does a great job just kind of is showing what happens and to your point it's not
00:11:47.320 happening in big big cities i mean it is too but it's also happening in smaller places like falkland
00:11:51.960 bc um you know one of the things that i've noticed brian is that the legacy media has really
00:11:57.880 downplayed uh canada's role in fentanyl you know you mentioned that the front page of the globe
00:12:03.000 and mail there was uh talking about how really you know canada contributes such a small amount
00:12:07.960 um compared to what's happening in the united states uh here we saw cnn making the same point
00:12:12.600 canada makes up just 0.2 percent of border fentanyl uh seizures oh daniel dale of the toronto star
00:12:21.560 okay yeah he's at cnn now but right daniel dale only checks one type of politician
00:12:27.160 he does not fact check liberals yeah his fact checks are nauseating i think he fact checked
00:12:33.760 after the trump harris debate and decided that trump had lied like 200 times and kamala harris
00:12:38.060 had only lied once um which you know i i was watching i had almost the opposite you and i
00:12:43.020 have been around politicians long enough to know they all lie well it depends yeah like like any
00:12:49.280 any tiny little like minor you know even trump just kind of boasting in the way that he does
00:12:53.680 daniel they would count that as a lie um whereas kamala harris like blatantly lying about the fact
00:12:58.000 that there's no active servicemen in the united states anywhere and then that was like actively
00:13:02.720 debunked by like active servicemen um sharing a video of themselves on social media so anyway
00:13:09.040 yeah we've we've got this claim that that we're not an issue and then um trying to figure out i
00:13:15.360 know we'll get into the border stuff in in a bit more but this relates to it uh trump's executive
00:13:21.440 order on bringing in the tariffs that were supposed to hit Tuesday, the one that he signed
00:13:26.060 on Saturday. It cites a report from Fintrac, a Canadian federal government agency. So I just
00:13:33.480 want to read a quote here. It says, with respect to smuggling of illicit drugs across our northern
00:13:37.820 border, Canada's Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Center recently published a
00:13:43.140 study on laundering of proceeds of illicit synthetic opioids, which recognize Canada's
00:13:48.560 tightened domestic production of fentanyl, largely from British Columbia, and its growing footprint
00:13:53.400 within international narcotics distribution. That report was up on the Fintrack website for
00:13:59.840 several weeks. It's now down. We have our own reports saying this, and yet our national
00:14:06.340 conversation, since Trump raised the issue, is, oh, there's nothing to see here. We're not bad.
00:14:11.720 oh wait, one of our banks just paid a huge fine for laundering money in the States?
00:14:17.860 Look away.
00:14:19.900 Well, exactly, because it's inconvenient to the narrative. And to your point, I agree that it's
00:14:26.900 about more than just fentanyl. Obviously, Trump won the election on multiple flanks, right? He
00:14:32.980 said that he wanted to crack down on the border and that he was done with the invasion on the
00:14:38.880 South. And it was really, that was one of the key components of his victory. But he also has a much
00:14:45.000 more protectionist approach to economics. And obviously with bringing in someone like J.D.
00:14:50.800 Vance's running mate, there is sort of talk that they're bringing in kind of like a new
00:14:54.660 protectionist model where they, one person that Trump often references is the 25th American
00:15:03.860 president william mckinley mckinley was known uh for his tariffs and trump talks about that sort
00:15:08.980 of he loves mckinley yeah so that's kind of made us all go back and uh you know we read the history
00:15:15.060 books and try to remember exactly what uh that looked like obviously the world was a very
00:15:18.500 different place back in the 1800s um but i wanted to get your thoughts on it like do you think that
00:15:23.780 this really is about uh the border drugs and secure national security or is this something
00:15:29.140 about like a new kind of economic populism on the right uh both and if you listen carefully
00:15:36.820 they will tell you that um so look is our migrant problem crossing over from
00:15:46.580 canada into the us as big as mexico no uh but it's not less than one percent which is what our
00:15:52.660 government says it is by my calculation using the publicly available numbers from customs
00:15:58.900 border patrol it we are at last year roughly seven percent of uh interdictions at the border um you
00:16:08.180 know we've gone up to almost 200 000 last year 43 000 of them were indian nationals who were in
00:16:14.660 canada on visas so the this whole uh international student thing where you know we brought in what
00:16:23.460 was about a million people through this program last year um you know a bunch of them are showing
00:16:29.300 up and then just going to uh we know many of them show up and then don't go to their schools they're
00:16:34.260 just using it as backdoor immigration but the americans are also saying wait a minute people
00:16:38.660 are using your lax system as a way to come to america and then declare asylum and try and or
00:16:43.940 try and enter the u.s illegally uh we know about the smuggling operation south of montreal into
00:16:49.460 vermont new hampshire all those things are there and i was writing about this problem when the
00:16:54.260 biden administration was still in and they were complaining about it uh so we have to take that
00:17:00.500 issue seriously the fentanyl issue it's mainly that we are their bankers uh again if you read
00:17:07.940 the executive order though they do talk about it going into the states from canada via the mail
00:17:12.900 system which is how china used to ship opioid fentanyl to canada they would use the mail um
00:17:20.980 and so they've asked that we find ways to deal with that that's a reasonable request so that's
00:17:27.220 the 25 percent tariffs are about the border and trump's picked to be commerce secretary howard
00:17:32.900 lutnik um smart man uh very successful in business uh you know and i point that out only because in
00:17:41.860 the legacy media uh you've got too many people wanting to say trump's an idiot and he's surrounded
00:17:47.060 by fools and they don't understand anything none of them have successfully rebuilt a multi-billion
00:17:52.260 dollar business like lutnik has doesn't mean he's right but he's no dummy and so he's before the
00:17:58.500 senate commerce committee last week and he's asked about the tariffs and i think the senators were
00:18:03.780 confused about what what the purpose of the 25 percent tariffs were and he said those are about
00:18:10.660 the border. But after that, we have a series of reports coming back April 1st on the American
00:18:16.400 trade system. And from that, there will be other tariffs. So we need to deal with the border
00:18:23.600 concerns because we cannot afford 25% tariffs. But we could end up, after all this is said and
00:18:29.440 done, with 10% tariffs on some of our goods or other non-tariff trade barriers put in place
00:18:35.700 because the Americans have a bunch of trade
00:18:38.240 irritants with us. Look, we have them
00:18:40.180 with them
00:18:40.680 but the problem is
00:18:44.440 that
00:18:45.580 the Canadian attitude
00:18:47.460 just had a meeting with an American
00:18:50.220 trade
00:18:52.340 official, a bureaucrat stationed
00:18:54.420 here, who was saying
00:18:55.980 you guys won't even talk.
00:18:58.500 We have issues and you won't talk
00:19:00.400 and if you think about it
00:19:02.100 like a marriage,
00:19:04.540 Canada and the U.S., it's a bit like a marriage.
00:19:07.040 And if your spouse comes to you and says, I've got a real issue with what you're doing here, it's really bugging me.
00:19:13.820 And you say, no, it's not.
00:19:16.080 And that's your attitude every time they raise the issue.
00:19:18.860 That's going to become from a small irritant to a big irritant to a relationship ender.
00:19:25.200 And that's kind of where we're at because, you know, as I said, we will have our own irritants with them.
00:19:32.340 and we expect them to do something, but the Canadian attitude under the Trudeau government,
00:19:37.700 and this is under the Trudeau government, this is not always the case. Stephen Harper had a very
00:19:42.380 different relationship. So did his bureaucracy and his government. Under the Trudeau government,
00:19:47.040 it's always, nope, Canada's right. There's no issue here. Why are you raising this? Which is
00:19:50.780 kind of what the Trudeau government did on the whole border thing until faced with the possibility
00:19:57.840 of a what did they say uh nothing clears the mind like a hanging in the morning
00:20:02.560 monday we suddenly were like uh yeah we could appoint a fentanyl czar and we can add in extra
00:20:07.360 money and they added a ton of things to the original december plan that was not the same
00:20:13.760 plan that was presented in december they added a bunch more to avoid those 25 percent tariffs for
00:20:17.920 now so if you read uh there's a paper by stefan moran uh who's now on trump's council of economic
00:20:27.840 advisors he was with hudson bay capital again another multi-billion dollar firm uh economist
00:20:34.880 they want to fundamentally transform the american economy and the global trading system that is
00:20:41.520 their end goal you read robert lighthizer's book no trade is free that is their end goal and
00:20:47.920 And in part, what they want to do, they know that these tariffs may add some inflation, but they dispute how much.
00:20:56.540 And they dispute the whole narrative around how Smoot-Hawley Act in the 1930s prolonged the Depression.
00:21:07.080 And in fact, Leiser points out that all that did was raise the tariffs from 40%, which is what they were before, to 46%.
00:21:13.580 So he said it was very small impact.
00:21:16.060 um they they dispute the entire narrative around tariffs they believe tariffs are good
00:21:21.120 and one of the reasons that they believe it's good is that it will bring back middle-class jobs to
00:21:25.900 places like the the small town that lighthizer grew up on on the shores of lake erie in ohio
00:21:32.000 uh where those blue-collar jobs are gone and they really believe that they need to bring that back
00:21:38.440 in america and give people work with dignity and if that costs them a bit on the stock market or
00:21:43.180 GDP growth, they're fine with that. And this is all laid out. They make it very plain in their
00:21:49.620 writing. I just don't think enough Canadians are paying attention to what they're saying.
00:21:53.780 And we're still stuck in this mentality of Reagan and Mulroney, and that's where everyone is. Or
00:22:02.480 even 10, 15 years ago, you've been down to CPAC. For people that don't know CPAC, it's the big
00:22:09.820 gathering of conservatives in washington it's not the canadian cable show you would hear a very
00:22:16.060 different message 10 years ago than you'll hear there now they have the the message that vance
00:22:22.940 and trump were are selling now would not have been welcomed 10 15 years ago at cpac now it's warmly
00:22:29.820 embraced i i think that's right and i think the first time around when trump was running there
00:22:34.620 was less of a consensus on the republican side i think than there is now brian i just think the
00:22:39.900 world has really changed obviously since the reagan years you know when a lot of this free
00:22:45.020 trade apparatus was set up um china was like an insignificant but growing economy uh you know i
00:22:52.460 think it was in reagan's years we weren't worried about china we were worried about japan right in
00:22:57.820 japan right yeah and the world is just so totally changed so it's like you're you're trying to set
00:23:03.660 up a free trade apparatus with an actor in china that doesn't abide by our free trade
00:23:09.500 like free market system and so the the mistake i think that canada's made is just putting itself
00:23:16.620 in opposition to the united states and treating them like they are the enemy you know what i saw
00:23:20.620 over the last week a lot of like uh chest thumping and saying like we can do it without uh the
00:23:25.820 americans it's like well i mean what what kind of world would that look like um i think that canada
00:23:31.580 needs to do everything it can to get back into Trump's good books to say, you know, we're part
00:23:36.880 of the same continent. We want security for the entire hemisphere. Yes, you should change your
00:23:42.880 trade structure with China because China cheats and crack down and change your rules and impose
00:23:48.340 that tariff. But don't punish Canada when our entire economy has been set up to do back and
00:23:55.340 forth across the border. And then I think that there are some sacred cows in Canadian domestic
00:24:00.720 policy like trump trump's named a few of them um you know regulations around banking uh obviously
00:24:06.360 airlines things like when it comes to uh dairy and the the supply management quotas that canada
00:24:12.220 puts on like we we have a lot of you know anti-free trade barriers as well um what do you what do you
00:24:18.120 make of or what's your reaction to that well first off the people saying that uh well we can do this
00:24:22.980 without the uh americans uh we don't need them the only way that you can say that and believe that
00:24:28.840 is if you are independently wealthy or part of the laptop class. If you make things,
00:24:36.340 if you grow things, if you extract things from the ground, no, we can't.
00:24:43.540 Look, can we do a better job of diversifying our trade? Absolutely, we can. And we should.
00:24:49.540 Although Justin Trudeau announcing that he wants to kickstart talks again with the UK
00:24:53.560 on a free trade agreement, while we're in the middle of dealing with this, is probably just
00:24:58.220 going to annoy the Americans, so not bright. But we should do that. Even if we do that, though,
00:25:03.520 and we take advantage of the, what, 15 free trade agreements that Stephen Harper signed
00:25:07.840 specifically for this purpose that no one's taken advantage of, even if we do that, the
00:25:14.000 United States is still going to be our biggest trading partner. So yeah, we need to be able to
00:25:21.340 work with them. And they don't want us to, I'm sure Trump keeps talking about us being the 51st
00:25:27.640 state. But really what they want, Candace, is they want a reliable partner. And whether,
00:25:34.820 you know, sure, Trump hates Trudeau and doesn't see Canada as a reliable partner. Guess who else
00:25:42.040 didn't see Canada as a reliable partner? Joseph R. Biden, Barack Obama. Like, this has been a
00:25:49.140 problem for a long time now. So we have to start aligning ourselves better. You know,
00:25:56.560 do we want to be with China or do we want to be with the U.S.? That's kind of the choice right
00:26:02.600 now. Panama decided they were going to be with China and that caught Trump's ire. And when we
00:26:08.880 were renegotiating NAFTA during Trump one, Justin Trudeau's decision to go in the middle of those
00:26:16.280 renegotiations to try and get a free trade deal with China completely irritated the White House.
00:26:22.060 Everybody in the Trump administration was furious. Why would we do that? It makes zero sense. But these guys, again, don't get that the world has changed. They're still dealing with a mindset that no longer exists.
00:26:36.500 I remember when there was a bipartisan consensus in Washington that trade and opening up to China
00:26:45.680 was good. When I started interviewing Peter Navarro, when his book Death by China came out,
00:26:51.840 that was still the consensus. Navarro won the day on China. We'll see how he does in the second
00:26:59.440 edition of the Trump administration, but he won the day. The bipartisan consensus is that China
00:27:04.020 is a bad actor, as you said, that we need to alter the trading system because China doesn't
00:27:12.600 play fair. They take advantage of it. They sell to us. We can't sell to them. You go to China to
00:27:17.460 start a company. You have to allow them to be an equity partner in it. And often they just steal
00:27:24.080 the company away from you in the end. So get out of this mindset that we have been in and
00:27:31.400 look at the way the world is now. And we benefit from being under the American military protection
00:27:39.860 umbrella, but we can't just rely on that. They will not keep paying for that if we're not a
00:27:46.780 reliable partner. So we've got to beef up our military spending, get a freshwater port or a
00:27:53.580 deepwater port in the Arctic, which, you know, the plans are already there. They've been asking for
00:27:58.240 it. Start defending the Arctic, start defending our borders, stop playing footsies with China,
00:28:05.040 and maybe align some of our trade policies. You mentioned dairy.
00:28:11.920 When we renegotiated NAFTA, the Americans thought they were getting more access for
00:28:15.520 their Wisconsin dairy farmers. And everyone walks out of the deal thinking that's what's happening.
00:28:23.760 canadians immediately interpret it differently and block them 277 million us according to the
00:28:30.640 wisconsin dairy farmers is what they lost out on you you start blocking that kind of trade
00:28:35.520 and you're going to annoy everyone so the americans had accepted supply management
00:28:40.240 and if we keep blocking them at every turn even when they think they've negotiated in good faith
00:28:45.600 with us and they're willing to say yeah keep your supply management but we'd like some access
00:28:50.000 and then we block that access guess what now they want the whole supply management system gone
00:28:55.440 they might not be there yet but if our dairy farmers keep pushing the way they are they're
00:29:02.240 going to blow up the entire free trade agreement with the united states and are we willing to do
00:29:07.040 that in order to keep mostly quebec dairy farmers happy i know the block quebec was i mean that they
00:29:12.720 would turn the entire economy into quebec dairy farmers if they could but that would be a really
00:29:17.760 stupid move to block the americans so much that they say forget it either the whole supply management
00:29:23.200 system's gone or we're ripping up the the trade agreement and we could end up at that point well
00:29:29.680 i think that might be what it comes to brian i think that sometimes external pressure is exactly
00:29:34.400 what we need uh to clean up our own house and another issue that's come up um in all of this
00:29:39.040 is just the need for more inter-provincial trade it's been said so many times uh it's kind of become
00:29:44.560 a bipartisan consensus as well.
00:29:47.020 Pierre came out with that on Monday
00:29:49.300 saying that this is what we need to do.
00:29:50.760 He put out a great video.
00:29:52.140 I just want to play a bit of fake news
00:29:53.860 for our audience because that's part of
00:29:56.140 what we do.
00:29:57.140 The show is keep these journalists on
00:29:58.600 their toes.
00:29:59.600 So the CBC just can't seem to hide
00:30:01.380 their disdain and resentment towards
00:30:03.620 Pierre Polyev.
00:30:04.580 So I want to just show this quick clip.
00:30:06.380 This is how Janice McGregor
00:30:08.420 describes Pierre Polyev and his video.
00:30:11.220 Let's play that clip.
00:30:14.560 Whoops, I don't know that the audio worked there, but basically, you could just see that
00:30:28.560 the CBC was absolutely dripping in their disdain, just describing Pierre Polyev as a rant on
00:30:37.800 interprovincial trade. And really, you know, that's kind of what we've come to expect,
00:30:43.480 Brian from the CBC. I don't trust Janice McGregor to tell me the time of day if we're looking at
00:30:48.460 the same clock. So and I don't feel that way about everybody at CBC, by the way. There are some good
00:30:55.440 people over there that will do some good work. Mostly the place just has to be defunded. Thank
00:31:00.440 you, Pierre, for promising to do that and doing it quickly. But yeah, that was ridiculous the other
00:31:05.500 day. Yeah. Okay. Well, today, Justin Trudeau came out and announced something different. He said
00:31:10.640 that Canada is going to host a Canada-U.S. economic summit.
00:31:15.800 It was described here by Laura Stone of the Globe and Mail
00:31:20.140 as a landmark event hosted with members of the Council
00:31:23.900 on Canada-U.S. relations to galvanize business
00:31:26.740 and investment across Canada.
00:31:28.820 And this is set to take place on Friday.
00:31:31.800 So this is kind of the best that Trudeau can come up with, Brian.
00:31:35.900 My response to it was basically, okay, so we can't have an election.
00:31:40.160 We're not going to have elected officials leading this negotiation. Trudeau said no to reopening
00:31:45.600 parliament, so we're not going to have parliament open. But here we can have a summit with a bunch
00:31:50.080 of unelected, unpopular, former premiers. So recall that this Council on Canada-U.S. Relations
00:31:56.960 includes people like Jean Charest, who ran for leader against Priya Palliev and lost,
00:32:00.960 former Liberal Premier of Quebec, and Rachel Notley, who lost in her last election,
00:32:06.560 former NDP Premier of Alberta. So, I mean, it seems like Trudeau is just totally out of answers
00:32:12.880 at this point. And Canada doesn't even really feel like a democracy when we're being led and
00:32:17.360 represented by people who haven't been elected. Look, there's some good and smart people
00:32:23.760 on that panel from the business side. And, you know, even some from the labor side who get what's
00:32:29.040 going on uh but they're not the government and and and adding jean chere who who i've known a long
00:32:36.800 time and actually uh i have time for jean but um going back to covering him when he was opposition
00:32:44.640 leader in quebec and then premier but he's not he's not elected anymore uh neither is rachel
00:32:50.480 notley why do they get to have more say than our parliament our parliament should be recalled
00:32:55.840 christia freeland says that she will recall it if she wins the the liberal leadership
00:33:00.080 um i don't know how many of your audience members that signed up and registered to vote are going
00:33:04.880 to vote for christia freeland rather than ruby dolla let's say um but you know freeland's not
00:33:11.600 going to win uh carney will not bring back parliament trudeau will not bring back parliament
00:33:17.200 liberal party's starting to feel like a bit of a threat to democracy aren't they i mean shouldn't
00:33:21.840 we have our parliament sitting to deal with the national crisis and yet um we won't i i have no
00:33:27.760 problem with the prime minister consulting a group like this to get ideas um that's fine get input
00:33:34.960 from business get input from labor but get input from the people's elected officials recall
00:33:42.080 parliament let the national voice have a say let the people have a say but of course they're just
00:33:48.400 worried that if that happens they'll be voted out they would rather have a mark carney coronation
00:33:55.120 on march 9th bring back parliament on march 24th carney cuts a deal with jagmeet singh who you know
00:34:02.560 i know he's ripped it up i know he said absolutely this time i'm definitely going to uh vote down
00:34:07.520 the government unlike the eight times i voted to keep them in power after i said i wouldn't
00:34:12.480 uh i think though carney will stitch together a deal with the ndp and then you know i i've heard
00:34:20.400 it from liberals some are excited at the idea that carney could then govern until september 2026
00:34:25.360 according to the constitution and by that point canadians get used to him being prime minister
00:34:31.200 and re-elect him i i saw a video of you i think you were in queens park uh explaining that that
00:34:38.400 went viral everybody was just kind of i mean that to me that's the worst case scenario that is like
00:34:42.960 the nightmare scenario because i already feel brian that canada yeah and it could happen it
00:34:47.920 could happen i mean i feel like canada's i don't know if we're quite at rock bottom now because i
00:34:52.160 think usually when you hit rock bottom you have like a sobering experience and commit to change
00:34:57.120 and i don't know that we've had that uh but i think that canada is at its weakest um that i
00:35:02.240 can remember like in my adult life i i don't i don't know if things were worse in the 70s under
00:35:07.040 the first Pierre Trudeau, possibly. But when it comes to the economy, the cost of living,
00:35:13.520 the open border immigration, and how that's sowing social division, when it comes to the
00:35:18.620 cost of housing, it comes to crime, to drugs, all of these issues, to me, it seems like Canada,
00:35:25.120 and that's not even to speak of national unity and growing sort of rumblings of separatism from
00:35:31.520 Quebec and Alberta. I haven't I haven't seen things this bad. And the idea that we could have
00:35:37.440 an unelected, selected prime minister like Mark Carney, who kind of openly boasts about being
00:35:44.820 involved with the World Economic Forum, where, you know, they openly brag about having control over
00:35:51.820 elected politicians. To me, that idea is just penetrating cabinet. To me, I have a hard time
00:36:00.240 imagining how Canada can get through something like that. I wanted to talk a bit about Mark
00:36:05.980 Carney because when the tariff situation came up, I get that he's running for leader of the
00:36:10.680 Liberal Party, but he put out a statement on tariffs. And again, maybe he was trying to sound
00:36:15.640 prime ministerial, but he wrote in it, he said, I am in regular contact with foreign minister
00:36:21.100 Melanie Jolie. I fully support her efforts, along with those of Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc,
00:36:26.700 Immigration Minister Mark Miller, Public Safety Minister David McGinty, as well as all their
00:36:32.140 American counterparts. And so this sort of sparked a bit of a controversy because people were
00:36:36.460 wondering, like, in what capacity are you speaking with American delegations and sort of giving
00:36:42.700 orders to Canadian ministers, ministers of the crown? He's not a member of parliament. He's not
00:36:48.380 in cabinet he's not the prime minister yet uh even ruby dolla who's running for liberal leadership
00:36:53.580 um asks a question like in what capacity is mark carney regularly communicating with all of these
00:36:59.260 high level officials on national security so brian when when it was kevin leary that was popping down
00:37:05.980 to mar-a-lago to visit uh with his pal donald trump you heard a lot of people on the political left
00:37:11.340 and liberals accusing him of being unelected and playing an outsized role. The CBC even accused
00:37:19.820 him of treason or said that he was acting in a treasonous way. How come that doesn't apply to
00:37:25.060 Mark Carney? Because he's a liberal. That's it. That's it. Mark Carney is the ultimate insider.
00:37:34.280 I mean, the fact that he's running as an outsider is a joke.
00:37:39.360 And as I have said, every time people have asked me about Mark Carney, covered him when he was the Bank of Canada governor.
00:37:46.140 He's a very nice guy.
00:37:47.780 He's a very smart guy.
00:37:50.860 But remember, he was working under the guidance of Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty during the 2008-9 economic crash.
00:38:00.000 He was governor of the Bank of Canada.
00:38:01.600 They make some independent, strong decisions, but the big economic decisions were being made by Flaherty and Harper.
00:38:11.100 But this guy who claims to be an outsider was courted by the liberals, went down to Scott Bryson's cottage in Nova Scotia while he was still bank governor, as he was being courted to run for liberal leader then.
00:38:25.300 He backed out because Justin Trudeau jumped in.
00:38:27.620 and the guy has been advising the government since 2020 uh he does all these videos with
00:38:36.820 liberal cabinet ministers like uh jonathan wilkinson who's a you know everyone pays attention
00:38:42.380 to stephen guibo because uh you know of how radical he is on the environment uh jonathan
00:38:48.860 wilkinson is not different from him at all he just looks more respectable with his nice haircut and
00:38:53.840 his glasses. He doesn't look like someone you'd see in an orange jumpsuit on the side of the CN
00:38:58.960 Tower. Mark Carney's walking along with him, thanking him for his endorsement. Oh, we've
00:39:04.680 known each other 25 years, is it now? Don't claim that you're an outsider. Okay, I would never claim
00:39:12.620 to be a political outsider. Now, am I an outsider within the media landscape? Yes, because I write
00:39:19.020 for the Toronto Sun because I used to work in private conservative talk radio. A lot of the
00:39:24.220 media are like, oh, I don't want to associate with that. But I've been around this game for 25 odd
00:39:31.320 years. I know people in every party. I know how to reach them, able to talk to them, get inside
00:39:39.000 info. That's why I'm paid to do what I do. I couldn't claim to be a complete outsider at this
00:39:44.780 point. Mark Carney is more ingratiated in the system than I am, and he's claiming he's an
00:39:49.640 outsider. He's not, and that's why he gets a pass from the media. He's friends with an awful lot of
00:39:56.240 them. If I ran into Mark on the street, we would know each other to say hi, could have a friendly
00:40:02.340 conversation. We're not buddies, but he's actually got friends in the media, and I think that's why
00:40:08.040 gets a pass. It's a little unreal. Look, I've got lots of politicians who I know, who I'm friends
00:40:16.840 with, connections with. They still get kicked in the shins from me, and they know it. Mark Carney
00:40:21.200 deserves to be asked serious questions about his policies, like he wants to bring in a carbon
00:40:27.200 border adjustment, meaning a tariff. We're in the middle of fighting the Americans on tariffs,
00:40:33.000 and his big carbon tax policy is you'll get rid of the consumer carbon tax, but put a carbon
00:40:38.380 tariff on everything that comes from a country that doesn't have a climate plan that he approves
00:40:42.820 of. The U.S. doesn't have a carbon tax. What do you want to bet it would be on American goods?
00:40:48.780 And what do you think the reaction would be? You'd put the most left-wing Democrat in the
00:40:54.200 White House. We put a carbon tariff on every import from America. What do you think the
00:40:59.700 reaction is going to be from the Americans. Economic war. Well, absolutely. I think Canada
00:41:06.340 certainly dodged a bullet this week when Trump decided to move away from the 25% tariff, although
00:41:12.280 to your point, it might still come and other tariffs might still come. But it seems like Trump
00:41:16.860 has, you know, he's moved on. He's talking about a new deal, not talking about Canada being the
00:41:22.180 51st state anymore. And now he's talking about Gaza. So I want to talk to you, Brian, about this
00:41:26.800 latest development, Trump had Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the White House
00:41:31.940 yesterday. And Trump just made this absolute bombshell announcement saying that the U.S. will
00:41:37.320 take over Gaza and develop it and that the Palestinians should leave. Unbelievable. So I
00:41:44.120 want to play this clip. Here is Trump talking about what he wants to do. The U.S. will take over the
00:41:49.940 Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too. We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling
00:41:56.780 all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site level the site and get rid
00:42:02.940 of the destroyed buildings level it out create an economic development that will supply unlimited
00:42:09.980 numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area do a real job do something different
00:42:17.180 just can't go back if you go back it's going to end up the same way it has for a hundred years
00:42:21.740 so i i guess gaza's gonna be the 51st state not canada we might we might be 52 brian what do you
00:42:28.100 what do you make of this uh quite the bold prediction i i don't know who's going to live
00:42:35.120 there after it's developed though is he going to give it to israel or will the gossians be able to
00:42:39.900 come back i i you know if you haven't been there it's heartbreaking to see what's happening
00:42:47.700 because Gaza could actually be the next Dubai. It's on the Mediterranean. They've got beautiful
00:42:54.140 beaches. They've got wonderful spots. It could be a tourist Mecca. Nobody wants to go there. Why?
00:43:00.260 Because for more than 20 years, they've used it as an armed camp to build up machines of war
00:43:06.900 and terrorist attacks and constantly attack Israel. They could develop into the most amazing
00:43:13.680 locations. Donald Trump's not boasting when he says that. Everybody I talked to in Israel said
00:43:20.800 if they would stop fighting us, they could have the most amazing economy over there,
00:43:26.540 but they won't. So I'm not sure he could do this. It's an interesting proposal.
00:43:35.900 What's he going to do to get Egypt and Jordan to take their share of the 1.8 million
00:43:42.060 Gazans that are there right now? I don't know. But it is telling that none of the neighboring
00:43:49.280 countries want this population in their country. Why? Because it is the most radicalized place on
00:43:56.060 earth. One of the stories I was told was that at the start of UNRWA, which Trump has said he's not
00:44:03.040 going to fund anymore, and neither should we, at the start of UNRWA, after the Arab-Israeli war
00:44:11.820 in 47, 48, they thought, okay, we'll do like a Marshall plan for the area and help the Arabs
00:44:20.600 build up. And they sent in an American official who had dealt with development in the United
00:44:26.500 States very successfully. And after a while, he quit. And they said, well, why are you quitting?
00:44:32.180 And he said, because we can't resettle and rebuild with a population that doesn't want to move on.
00:44:39.580 the popular and this this was around 19 or 1950 or early 50s he'd spent a couple years trying to
00:44:47.840 rebuild and he said they don't want to move on they don't want to change they just want to go
00:44:53.260 back and take over israel and destroy it what has changed in the 75 years since nothing and so
00:45:00.680 leaving hamas in place though that's not an answer leaving unwritten place that's not an answer
00:45:08.760 but I don't know if what Trump is suggesting here is feasible. You always have to look and say,
00:45:14.920 okay, is he serious or is he doing this? That's my opening position. We'll settle for something
00:45:21.060 else. Yeah. I mean, maybe he's trying to entice Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates or
00:45:27.220 someone else to say, no, no, we'll step in and take over. I mean, I agree. Look, it's interesting
00:45:33.700 to watch because every real power and presumably Canada will condemn this as well and say,
00:45:38.760 no, this violates international law, you cannot displace these people. The reality is that during
00:45:43.320 a war, you would move people out. A lot of the people have already been displaced and removed.
00:45:48.440 And the whole point of a refugee program is to resettle them elsewhere. That's what we did with
00:45:52.520 Syrian refugees. They left Syria because they couldn't be there anymore. And they got resettled
00:45:56.200 all over. So again, Trump said, you know, that the US will take it, they'll own it. Trump sort
00:46:02.440 of sounding like a real estate mogul there, like, you know, he's going to do a deal, he's going to
00:46:05.640 build some beautiful resorts or something along the mediterranean beaches there um and then he
00:46:10.440 said that the territory uh that the people should move to uh territory in countries like jordan and
00:46:15.560 egypt and to the point he just made um these countries have resisted because it's such a
00:46:19.240 radicalized population like at this point i think it's like canada and the uk are the only countries
00:46:23.320 that have actually said that they would take even just a small number one other one or two others
00:46:28.760 uh and i think indonesia took them for you know in exchange for some cash uh but the
00:46:34.680 i think saudi arabia could do a good job um in the area they they are uh not tolerant of radical
00:46:43.400 populations um they are trying to uh you know they know that they had their own
00:46:51.320 problem with radicalization and they're in some ways trying to reform their branch of islam so
00:46:56.440 So they may be able to do something good
00:46:59.280 and they would be able to develop it very well.
00:47:03.400 But nobody wants to invest and create jobs in Gaza.
00:47:07.040 Nobody wants to go and stay at a hotel in Gaza
00:47:10.920 because you'll get, even before the war started,
00:47:14.320 the risk of violence was quite high.
00:47:16.940 So the solution at the end of this has to be
00:47:21.460 that the terrorist group that took billions of dollars
00:47:24.400 aid money from countries like Canada, like the United States, like Germany, and dug up water
00:47:30.880 pipes that were supposed to make sure people had clean water to drink, dug them up or just never
00:47:37.680 put them in the ground and used those water pipes to build rockets, those people can't be left in
00:47:43.480 charge. The people that starve their own population or use them as human shields can't be left in
00:47:48.860 charge. And right now, if Israel just walks away, that's who's left in charge, unless somebody else
00:47:55.280 like the US or Saudi Arabia goes in and cleans things up. But it'll take a long time to de-radicalize
00:48:03.260 a population that has been taught in schools that you and I paid for to hate Jews simply for
00:48:11.180 existing. And that's what they've been taught for far too long. It's so true. Like everyone knows
00:48:16.740 status quo is broken everyone knows we can't go back to how we were before october 7th i i just
00:48:21.300 i appreciate trump for kind of coming up with an outside the box unique solution and even if it's
00:48:25.380 just to get the ball rolling and try to get someone else to actually take over this land i i think
00:48:29.460 that's the the right uh step in the right direction anyway it's it if i can just say this it's smarter
00:48:35.540 than saying let's have a two-state solution who's the other state who's the other partner they don't
00:48:40.820 exist exactly because you can't have terrorists um running running that place anymore i want to
00:48:46.580 talk with you about the ontario election i know you're there in toronto in queen's park uh reporting
00:48:50.900 on it we had uh both uh major candidates uh under a bit of fire in the last few hours here uh for
00:48:57.700 uh hot mic incidents so um just to provide a bit of uh context for everybody so doug ford triggered
00:49:04.660 an election last week the election date here in ontario will be february 27th um so it will come
00:49:11.140 before the um updated 30 day or 28 day um pause on tariffs interesting because doug ford kind of
00:49:18.020 triggered this election saying that the ballot box question was who could best deal with trump
00:49:22.020 and respond to trump and that issue has kind of been neutralized and so now we have an election
00:49:26.020 and i'm not sure what the ballot box question is maybe you can answer that uh for us but first um
00:49:30.500 Doug Ford, much like Donald Trump, has received union endorsements, which is not something that's
00:49:35.540 common for conservatives. So he has a whole number of unions, including Unifor, the United
00:49:41.180 Auto Workers, endorsing him. PCs are projected to win a massive majority. They're pulling up 45%
00:49:48.240 to the Liberals, 27%, which may equate to PCs getting something like 99 seats, the Liberals
00:49:54.600 getting wiped down to third place with nine seats in the NDP with 13. So, well, first of all,
00:50:01.600 we'll go to Doug Ford's hot mic situation. So here he was on Tuesday where he accidentally
00:50:07.020 let it split that he was happy that Donald Trump was elected. So let's play that clip.
00:50:24.600 So I don't know if Ford realized that he was audio, audio was on there, but you could hear him say that he was 100% happy when Donald Trump won the election, then he felt betrayed saying that Trump pulled out the knife and yanked it into us. Later on that campaign stop, he was asked if he is still supporting Donald Trump. And he replied, absolutely not. Let's play that clip.
00:50:46.040 You've previously voiced support or admiration, I suppose, for Donald Trump.
00:50:53.780 Do you still consider yourself a Trump supporter?
00:50:56.160 Absolutely not.
00:50:57.920 Can you expand on that?
00:50:58.480 It's just so disappointing.
00:51:01.320 I'm sure there's millions of Canadians that thought, okay, this might be a good change down in the U.S.
00:51:07.500 It's been a disaster.
00:51:09.600 I'd never support that guy in my entire life.
00:51:12.400 So he really had a change of heart there.
00:51:15.580 I don't know if it's controversial for him to say that he 100% supported Trump in the first place,
00:51:20.340 but made it very clear that he's very disappointed.
00:51:23.320 Now, not to be outdone, the Ontario Liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie,
00:51:26.260 who's a former mayor of Mississauga, was also caught on more of a hot mug.
00:51:30.540 This is, I think, much more damaging to her brand.
00:51:33.700 She can be heard saying that she doesn't care about Brampton.
00:51:37.520 I think we have that clip if we can play that.
00:51:41.080 No, no, that's here.
00:51:41.940 No, no, no, not in Brampton.
00:51:45.580 i don't go to anything in brampton it's not my city i don't care not my city i don't care i'm
00:51:54.380 not clear exactly when that video audio came from um but it is making the rounds trending
00:52:00.060 and circulating not a great thing for someone who wants to be premier of the entire province
00:52:04.220 uh so brian what's your take on all this well in fairness to crombie uh um my understanding
00:52:09.900 and she said that while she was mayor of mississauga and but you know is that going
00:52:14.460 going to help her in Brampton. She was just in Brampton campaigning on a tax cut and trying to
00:52:18.200 win some seats there. I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think it'll hurt her in
00:52:23.900 Mississauga, which is pretty big suburb of Toronto and vote rich. And outside of Brampton and
00:52:30.700 Mississauga, nobody's going to care. Because if you don't, if you live in Ottawa, if you live in
00:52:36.180 Richmond Hill, if you live in Hamilton, you don't care about Brampton either. So it's not going to
00:52:41.280 an issue but it will hurt her in that area and the liberals were hoping to make gains there
00:52:46.320 uh they're the only ones that can take those seats away from the pcs this time i don't think
00:52:50.080 the ndp who won some seats in the area in 2018 i don't think they can do it now
00:52:55.920 we'll see how the the hot mic about donald trump um plays out or maybe it's already played out i
00:53:03.920 mean the news cycle is so fast these days if people moved on it'd be hard to say since november
00:53:10.080 25th when trump posted his um his uh you know comments about 25 tariffs which were shocking to
00:53:19.040 everybody he had talked about 10 tariffs never 25 aimed at canada nobody's been more vocal in trying
00:53:27.040 to fix that than doug ford i mean he's he's even done more interviews than danielle smith she's
00:53:33.040 probably like right behind him the two of them on american media constantly trying to make canada's
00:53:39.120 case. The prime minister wasn't. So you can't say that he's been out there endorsing what Trump's
00:53:45.480 doing now. So we'll have to wait and see if it hurts him in a couple of days. The opposition
00:53:51.560 parties just aren't able to punch through right now, though. And you said that the tariff issue
00:53:58.580 has kind of been neutralized. No, no. And Ford has been rightly making these comments. Whether
00:54:06.220 it's tomorrow, next week, next month, six months from now, there's going to be more tariffs and
00:54:11.200 there's going to be more protectionist measures. Why would he have been in favor of Trump over
00:54:16.440 Kamala Harris, though? What most people don't realize is that the Democrats were incredibly
00:54:22.700 protectionist. Just like there's been a change in the bipartisan consensus on trade overall and on
00:54:28.820 China, protectionism is back in vogue in both parties. And the only difference between Trump
00:54:34.680 and the Democrats, whether it's Obama, Biden, or Harris, is that the Democrats will come at you
00:54:41.380 smiling and give you a big hug and tell you how wonderful you are while they slip the knife
00:54:46.020 between your ribs. And Trump comes at you with the knife up here screaming that he's coming for you.
00:54:52.140 He tells you up front. They do it sneakily. Harris was behind some legislation that most of it passed,
00:54:59.880 the Inflation Reduction Act. But there were other features in the original edition of the
00:55:05.060 Inflation Reduction Act that would have decimated Ontario's auto industry. And the only reason that
00:55:10.800 got taken out was that Senator Joe Manson from Virginia, and I forget the name of the two
00:55:15.720 Democrat senators in Georgia, they represented auto plants that weren't unionized. And they
00:55:20.840 had included language that said it had to be unionized. So some of that got watered down.
00:55:25.440 But at the end of the day, the Inflation Reduction Act, the IRA, is still the reason why all those EV battery deals, the billions and billions to Stellantis and Volkswagen, thankfully, those have not been paid out yet, by the way.
00:55:41.180 Those were to match what the Americans were offering in the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:55:47.560 the good news is the language in the contract says if one if you don't produce the batteries
00:55:53.100 you don't get the tax break it's a tax break not a direct handout and two if the inflation
00:55:58.240 reduction act is rescinded or goes away in any way shape or form we're off the hook looks like
00:56:03.720 Trump's going to get rid of that so he may save Canadian and Ontario taxpayers billions but that's
00:56:09.140 why he would be in favor of Trump rather than Harris Harris was trying to kill off the auto
00:56:12.940 industry and, you know, doing it sneakily. Trump is now threatening the auto industry, doing it
00:56:18.340 loudly. At least you know where he's coming from. Yeah, I don't think that many people would begrudge
00:56:24.580 Ford for saying that he supported Trump. I mean, I think that it's not 2016 anymore. Trump was
00:56:29.100 actually one in a huge majority and he's popular in large swaths of the population. Brian, let's
00:56:35.040 just get to this really quickly because I saw, you know, Elon Musk came in, had a mandate,
00:56:41.700 placed in the newly created Department of Government Efficiency.
00:56:45.780 A lot of people are kind of shooting the messenger for him
00:56:48.240 for pointing out horribly wasteful programs.
00:56:50.800 One of the ones that they set their eyes on is USAID.
00:56:54.120 And I saw that you tweeted that this whole fight over USAID
00:56:59.120 reminds me of Stephen Harper's fight with CETA.
00:57:01.400 In Ottawa, Foreign Affairs thinks they work for themselves,
00:57:04.960 not the people in government, but CETA was worse.
00:57:07.980 So Harper sent in Bev Oda to clean it up.
00:57:10.560 and oh boy so just real quick because we've just got a minute or two left here yeah what do you
00:57:15.820 think of what elon musk is doing and uh do you think that we can do it up here in canada as well
00:57:20.120 well bevota did it for stephen harper uh years ago and i remember asking harper and one of the
00:57:25.600 controversies people were always out to get out i said why do you stand by her and he said because
00:57:30.220 you haven't seen the good work she's done cleaning up the department i'm guessing some of what she
00:57:34.680 cleaned up is now messy again so yeah we're going to need that sort of thing but you you'll look at
00:57:40.120 some of the things that USAID is paying for, and you say, why would American taxpayers be
00:57:46.180 half a million dollars to spread atheism in Nepal? Don't you think the Nepalese government
00:57:52.040 might say, what are you doing? You're going to annoy people with projects like this, or
00:57:56.920 paying for sex change operations in other countries. Why? What are you doing? So, you know,
00:58:03.960 look, there's some good programs they do, just like there's good programs CETA does,
00:58:08.980 but there's always a lot of radical left stuff in there and you got to keep your eyes on for it.
00:58:14.380 It's like in the Ontario education system. It's whack-a-mole. You smack one of the crazy ideas
00:58:19.280 down, it pops up somewhere else. So whoever has that job when Polyev wins, which I hope happens
00:58:26.020 soon, they're going to have their hands full. Well, I nominated Franco from the CTF. We had
00:58:31.220 him on the show yesterday and he had nothing but examples. So I said, okay, I think that you should
00:58:35.060 go in there and clean house. All right, Brian Lilly, it's such a pleasure. Thank you so much
00:58:38.340 for joining us and thank you for all your insights. Thank you. All right, folks, we're
00:58:42.520 going to leave it there. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll be back again tomorrow
00:58:46.080 with all the news. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.