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00:00:00.000 So, wait, so YouTube demonetized us for the Ben Shapiro thing?

00:00:04.400 Yes, exactly.

00:00:06.060 We put in a dispute, we followed the rules,

00:00:09.220 and it was, I don't think it was YouTube,

00:00:11.560 but I think it was Ben Shapiro and Tom McDonald themselves who rejected us.

00:00:15.920 But do you know what?

00:00:16.400 It's funny because the internet right now,

00:00:18.320 YouTube is filled with like Ben Shapiro reaction videos.

00:00:21.100 And then Ben Shapiro even did a video reacting to his reaction videos.

00:00:24.660 So you would think that he would want people to promote his song and his music.

00:00:28.420 But then when we did it, we get demonetized.

00:00:31.340 Unless it was just over the dancing.

00:00:32.900 The dance moves might have just been, YouTube was just offended by that.

00:00:36.400 It's totally possible.

00:00:37.900 It's like the MyPillow guy all over again when I had him on my show

00:00:40.780 and we like couldn't post on YouTube for a week.

00:00:42.660 Well, it's not that bad at least.

00:00:44.520 Yeah, but that was, didn't that happen like eight months later?

00:00:46.720 It's like Andrew interviews this guy and it was totally normal and totally fine.

00:00:49.580 And then like six months later, he does something controversial

00:00:52.280 and they like go back and demonetize our whole channel.

00:00:54.900 Yeah.

00:00:55.740 All right, guys, let's get this started.

00:00:58.120 So, all right.

00:01:05.300 So, hey, guys, thanks for being here.

00:01:08.020 Thanks, everyone, for tuning in.

00:01:09.400 This is Off the Record, our second episode.

00:01:11.440 The first one was last week.

00:01:12.320 I think it went pretty well.

00:01:13.440 So we're going to keep this format going

00:01:15.340 and talk about the week's news from a little bit more of a casual, relaxed perspective.

00:01:21.060 And I know we talked about this a lot last week,

00:01:23.580 but I just wanted to talk about it, mention it quickly here.

00:01:26.940 More fallout from Daniel Smith's policy, protecting kids from trans surgeries, basically,

00:01:33.600 from being pushed into getting sex change operations while they're still children.

00:01:39.220 And it's just really been remarkable to see this whole thing unfold.

00:01:43.720 I was pleased that Pierre Polyev came out in the middle of the week and finally let us know

00:01:48.880 what the conservative position was on it because they've been relatively quiet up to this point.

00:01:53.080 I think he did take the right position and fall in the right place.

00:01:56.540 But I just, like, I still can't believe the way that the media has handled this issue

00:02:01.560 and the way that some left-wing politicians, Justin Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh,

00:02:05.260 have just been completely hysterical.

00:02:07.660 I just don't understand why they think that talking about trans issues for children

00:02:12.540 is anything that's going to be popular.

00:02:14.960 Like, as soon as, like, one of the things that Pierre Polyev did

00:02:17.520 was that he got journalists to explain exactly what policy they were talking about

00:02:22.900 because they would do this thing, like, why are you in favor of restricting health care to kids?

00:02:27.560 Which is propaganda. That's a euphemism.

00:02:29.780 Like, we're not talking about access to health care.

00:02:31.620 We're talking about elective surgeries for sex changes for little kids.

00:02:35.060 And once you make the journalists say that, then they've already lost the argument.

00:02:40.220 Harrison, what's your position?

00:02:42.060 Well, yeah, the journalists were exposed a few days ago

00:02:44.780 when one of the journalists asked Pierre Polyev if he felt that

00:02:48.360 only adults should take puberty blockers after they had this discussion.

00:02:54.420 And, you know, adults don't take puberty blockers because that's the whole point.

00:02:57.960 It exposes the fact that the base position of the media here

00:03:03.380 is whatever the conservatives are saying has to be wrong.

00:03:07.700 And whatever the left is saying has to be right.

00:03:10.080 And they can't even use their own judgment to realize what they're talking about

00:03:13.060 is completely ridiculous.

00:03:14.680 So I think Polyev is right.

00:03:15.800 It took him a bit too long to finally admit to it.

00:03:18.760 But at least he did come out and admit to it.

00:03:21.460 Well, one of the things that was really interesting that I learned this week

00:03:24.300 was that taking testosterone is actually illegal.

00:03:28.520 And human growth hormones are illegal in Canada.

00:03:31.540 So in some cases, it's not even possible to take it when you're an adult.

00:03:35.380 They only give it to children.

00:03:37.180 They don't even allow adults to take it.

00:03:40.540 I think, if anything, it's just exposed this entire issue.

00:03:43.740 It was like, more Canadians are now aware of the crazy stuff

00:03:47.740 that's happening in our country to kids.

00:03:50.440 Like, there was one clip that I found really amusing

00:03:52.660 where a journalist was kind of complaining to Danielle Smith

00:03:55.300 about the onerousness of one of the policies,

00:03:58.580 which was that every time you talk about sex ed

00:04:00.340 to children in your classroom, you have to write a report.

00:04:03.680 And the reporter was like,

00:04:05.460 hey, like, are they supposed to write a report like every day?

00:04:09.000 Like, that's like so much work.

00:04:11.440 And Danielle's like, well, I'm sorry,

00:04:14.340 but if they're talking about sex every single day to students,

00:04:18.280 I think we've discovered a good use case for this policy

00:04:21.380 because they shouldn't be doing that, obviously.

00:04:23.820 Yeah, there's a lot of gaslighting on this, though.

00:04:26.120 Because I remember like when Danielle Smith first came out

00:04:28.440 and was talking about the, in Alberta,

00:04:31.520 the sex reassignment surgery component,

00:04:34.360 you had people say, that doesn't happen.

00:04:36.000 She's banning something that doesn't exist.

00:04:37.680 No one does that.

00:04:38.900 And literally news reports that came out yesterday,

00:04:42.780 National Post, there were eight transgender surgeries

00:04:46.060 for minors in 2022, 2023.

00:04:49.200 So you may say, okay, eight, it's a small number,

00:04:51.260 but still eight is above zero.

00:04:53.840 So when you have people saying this doesn't happen,

00:04:56.280 it's not there, and then, oh, well,

00:04:58.140 what do you know it's happening?

00:04:59.400 It undermines the entire argument.

00:05:02.080 Yeah, this kind of reminds me of the whole like

00:05:03.480 libs of TikTok thing, like people who,

00:05:05.320 there's a very popular account on Twitter

00:05:07.560 who people who don't know,

00:05:08.980 that the account, the person who runs the account

00:05:11.440 literally just takes clips of people on TikTok.

00:05:14.540 So people who have, you know, on their own

00:05:16.600 decided to post videos, public videos,

00:05:19.840 on their TikTok accounts.

00:05:21.700 And she just stitches them together

00:05:23.060 and shows them to a different audience on Twitter.

00:05:26.660 And, you know, the left is like,

00:05:28.080 oh, this is a hate crime.

00:05:29.200 This is hate speech.

00:05:29.940 She's targeting trans people

00:05:31.200 and she's putting them at risk.

00:05:32.060 It's like, it's like, no, no,

00:05:33.660 they're just speaking in their own words.

00:05:35.000 She's just giving them a platform, right?

00:05:36.920 She's just letting you know what they say,

00:05:38.900 what they do.

00:05:39.460 And it's usually teachers.

00:05:40.920 They're talking about how they're confusing

00:05:42.720 their children and how they talk about sex

00:05:44.300 in classrooms and how they're making kids,

00:05:46.440 you know, reconsider whether they're boys or girls.

00:05:48.920 They're just really the worst of the worst.

00:05:50.760 And it's happening.

00:05:51.860 We know what's happening

00:05:52.580 because we see it in this,

00:05:54.280 in this, through this TikTok account.

00:05:55.700 And then the same kind of gaslighting

00:05:57.400 that you're talking about, Andrew,

00:05:58.220 that they'll be like, this doesn't happen.

00:06:00.420 No one's doing this to kids.

00:06:02.140 It's like, yeah, we see through you.

00:06:07.560 Yeah.

00:06:08.820 Sorry.

00:06:09.500 I was like waiting for a question mark

00:06:11.480 and then I thought Harrison was going to say something.

00:06:13.020 I thought Harrison was-

00:06:13.660 Like awkward live to date moments

00:06:15.500 that we'll all just have to hope

00:06:17.240 the audience finds endearing

00:06:18.380 instead of horribly unprofessional.

00:06:20.080 No, I thought Harrison was about to jump in with somebody.

00:06:22.160 Okay, good.

00:06:22.840 It was two on one, Harrison.

00:06:23.900 Where were you, man?

00:06:24.960 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:25.940 Left you guys hanging there.

00:06:27.200 No, I mean-

00:06:27.580 Harrison, say words.

00:06:29.220 It's pathetic.

00:06:30.220 It's crazy.

00:06:30.780 The media were exposed

00:06:31.580 for just basically taking

00:06:32.940 whatever the left is saying

00:06:34.660 and believing that

00:06:36.140 that is the only acceptable position to have.

00:06:38.140 I think Paul Yev is right when he says

00:06:39.560 Justin Trudeau will eventually

00:06:41.180 have to back down from this

00:06:42.500 because common sense

00:06:44.420 and just what the majority of Canadians think

00:06:46.640 isn't going to stand up to this.

00:06:48.600 The majority of Canadians

00:06:49.380 don't want children to take puberty blockers

00:06:52.140 and to basically cut their own body parts off.

00:06:55.700 It's not going to last.

00:06:56.920 So eventually,

00:06:58.060 the prime minister will likely have to

00:07:00.160 step down from this position

00:07:02.040 and be asked the kind of questions

00:07:03.860 that Pierre is being asked.

00:07:05.020 So double standards everywhere,

00:07:06.540 but it's just the usual media playbook.

00:07:08.660 Yeah, although I will say

00:07:09.860 that the media did their job this time

00:07:11.040 because we didn't know where Pierre stood.

00:07:12.260 And I do think that it took them pushing him.

00:07:15.340 And you can see there was one press conference

00:07:17.020 that he did and Justin Ling,

00:07:18.320 who's like a left-wing reporter,

00:07:19.180 was asking him these annoying questions

00:07:20.720 and they were full of propaganda.

00:07:22.200 And it was like,

00:07:22.720 basically like,

00:07:23.820 why do you hate trans kids

00:07:24.820 and why won't you give them health care?

00:07:26.540 And you can see Pierre just kind of lost his patience.

00:07:28.600 And then that was like the moment

00:07:29.460 where he first came out.

00:07:30.560 And then the next day he was in the House Commons

00:07:32.020 and he was getting scrummed

00:07:32.740 and the reporters were doing their job.

00:07:33.720 Like, where do you stand?

00:07:34.360 What's your position?

00:07:34.920 What's your party position?

00:07:36.100 And he finally let them have it.

00:07:38.480 And it was great.

00:07:38.960 So good for Pierre for landing in the right place.

00:07:41.360 Okay, I want to talk about this other story

00:07:42.720 that happened this week,

00:07:43.500 which was that we learned

00:07:44.460 that it was the Prime Minister's office.

00:07:46.860 It was Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's own office

00:07:49.060 that invited that Nazi veteran to reception

00:07:53.260 and to be at the House of Commons.

00:07:55.500 So we all remember this very embarrassing moment

00:07:58.400 that happened last September

00:07:59.960 where the entire House of Commons

00:08:01.540 gave a standing ovation to a Nazi.

00:08:04.240 And basically the interesting component of the story,

00:08:06.540 I know you cover this on your show, Andrew,

00:08:08.440 but just to repeat it,

00:08:10.540 it's like at the time when this happened,

00:08:14.080 the scandal came out,

00:08:15.080 the government blamed it entirely

00:08:16.560 on House Speaker Anthony Rota.

00:08:18.960 He ended up resigning.

00:08:20.360 But there were some interesting quotes from the time.

00:08:23.140 So we had Liberal cabinet ministers insisting

00:08:25.400 that this person, this House leader,

00:08:27.960 could not stay on the job

00:08:28.940 because what he had done was just so beyond the pale,

00:08:30.820 so reprehensible.

00:08:32.060 So we had Karina Gold saying,

00:08:34.340 I can't see based on the conversations I've had

00:08:36.680 how he can continue to have the support

00:08:38.440 of Liberal members of Parliament.

00:08:40.280 Then you had Melanie Jolie, the foreign minister,

00:08:42.140 saying what happened on Friday

00:08:43.420 is completely unacceptable.

00:08:44.900 It was an embarrassment to the House of Commons

00:08:46.420 and Canadians.

00:08:47.640 So we had all of these Liberals at the time

00:08:49.640 saying that because of what Anthony Rota did,

00:08:52.760 because he invited this Nazi,

00:08:54.060 it was all his fault.

00:08:54.900 It was 100% him.

00:08:56.080 Nobody else knew what was happening.

00:08:57.240 This guy is to blame and he just can't be in cabinet.

00:09:00.680 He can't be in this position anymore.

00:09:02.220 Well, well, oops, because now we know

00:09:05.100 that it wasn't Anthony Rota.

00:09:07.180 He was just a fall guy.

00:09:08.300 He was just the guy that they decided to throw to the bus.

00:09:10.220 It was actually Justin Trudeau's office

00:09:12.040 that sent the invitation.

00:09:13.760 So wouldn't all those things now apply

00:09:15.960 to the prime minister?

00:09:17.620 Just using Liberal logic here,

00:09:19.320 if what Anthony Rota did was so terrible,

00:09:21.740 then now that we know it was actually Justin Trudeau,

00:09:23.820 why aren't they saying the same thing

00:09:25.100 about Justin Trudeau?

00:09:27.240 Andrew, I'll let you take it from here.

00:09:29.360 Well, I should just clarify,

00:09:30.980 it was a separate invitation.

00:09:33.680 So Anthony Rota had invited him

00:09:35.620 to the House of Commons.

00:09:36.540 Justin Trudeau invited him to this reception in Toronto

00:09:39.200 where he didn't end up attending,

00:09:42.180 but he was going to be there

00:09:43.120 and it was honoring Volodymyr Zelensky.

00:09:46.100 But the rules still apply.

00:09:47.860 I mean, the current framework you've just laid out there

00:09:50.620 of a guy who invites Nazi to public event resigns

00:09:54.500 is still something that should apply.

00:09:56.840 But we saw Trudeau doing that Trudeopian thing

00:09:59.320 that he loves doing with this,

00:10:00.880 which is that Canada apologizes.

00:10:03.500 I apologize on behalf of Canadians

00:10:05.440 as though you, Harrison, you, Candace,

00:10:07.860 me, our video guys, Jacob, Phil,

00:10:10.760 like they were all the ones that did it,

00:10:13.140 not just Trudeau.

00:10:14.600 And now we know it was not just Anthony Rota,

00:10:17.240 it was also Justin Trudeau's office.

00:10:19.740 So, you know, yeah, maybe giving the apology

00:10:21.720 on behalf of a larger group of people was warranted,

00:10:24.140 but the group of people was his office.

00:10:26.420 And it was amazing that now all of a sudden,

00:10:28.860 it's, oh, whoopsie, just an honest mistake.

00:10:30.500 When it was Anthony Rota,

00:10:31.500 it was something that had to cost him his job.

00:10:34.220 When it's Justin Trudeau, it's,

00:10:35.600 oh, well, you know, we just, you know,

00:10:36.860 the name was given to us on a list

00:10:38.400 and we just, you know, who among us hasn't?

00:10:41.820 Didn't he do this with blackface too?

00:10:43.240 Didn't he apologize on behalf of all Canadians

00:10:45.600 when he was coming?

00:10:46.180 No, that was a learning opportunity for all of us.

00:10:47.920 So yeah, so the guy next door does blackface

00:10:50.380 and we all have to learn more

00:10:52.380 about race relations in Canada, yeah.

00:10:54.740 Yeah, it was a joint learning opportunity.

00:10:56.840 Harrison, what was your take on this?

00:10:58.920 Well, the level of incompetence

00:11:00.760 from the prime minister's office

00:11:02.460 from inside this Canadian government

00:11:04.280 is reaching such dangerous levels

00:11:06.620 that it's becoming like a national security issue here.

00:11:08.820 These people literally can't even understand

00:11:11.000 very basic historical facts.

00:11:14.620 The reality that if you were fighting

00:11:16.440 against the Soviets in World War II,

00:11:19.160 you probably weren't on the side of the allies.

00:11:21.780 This is very basic stuff.

00:11:23.560 And clearly some people in the PMO had no idea.

00:11:26.180 And it's not like these invitations,

00:11:27.600 you're just a junior staffer writes this stuff out.

00:11:29.880 It doesn't go through other people.

00:11:32.020 Nobody caught this.

00:11:33.500 Everyone else did once it was public,

00:11:35.620 once the standing ovation

00:11:37.860 had already been given to a Nazi,

00:11:39.440 but no one had caught this inside the PMO.

00:11:42.280 And of course they have to just blame the speaker.

00:11:45.020 They have to find a fall guy.

00:11:46.220 Good soldier, Anthony Rota,

00:11:47.700 for just taking it and not exposing the PMO

00:11:49.560 on his way out for doing this themselves.

00:11:52.220 But seriously, this is unbelievable here.

00:11:55.080 The people inside the PMO are dangerously incompetent.

00:11:58.780 It's kind of freaking me out.

00:12:00.440 Well, I think it maybe says something

00:12:01.860 about our history and the whole liberal mantra

00:12:04.600 of like, let's erase everything that happened

00:12:06.820 like prior to, I don't know, 1965

00:12:09.100 or prior to the Charter Rights and Freedoms.

00:12:11.400 Like Canada's history starts with Pierre Trudeau

00:12:13.260 and let's like not even learn about World War II

00:12:15.960 or not even learn about like Canada's contributions.

00:12:18.520 It's like, you know, as soon as I heard

00:12:20.740 the introduction in the House of Commons

00:12:23.120 and it was like, this guy fought against the Russians.

00:12:25.940 It's like, well, that obviously,

00:12:27.340 to your point, Harrison,

00:12:28.180 that should ring alarm bells.

00:12:29.360 The fact that the conservatives also stood up

00:12:31.160 and applauded was deeply shameful,

00:12:33.100 but at least they could be forgiven

00:12:34.360 for getting caught up in a moment, right?

00:12:35.840 You're at an event and, you know,

00:12:37.620 you're not really paying attention

00:12:38.560 and you're focused on something else

00:12:39.900 and everyone's standing and it's like,

00:12:41.340 okay, this guy's a war veteran, you stand.

00:12:43.880 But it's like, you know,

00:12:45.080 the people who are organizing this event, right?

00:12:47.180 Like it was a high profile thing.

00:12:49.260 They had Vladimir Zelensky.

00:12:50.660 This is like going with whole,

00:12:52.160 the whole like Justin Trudeau, you know,

00:12:54.400 fighting for Ukraine is fighting for democracy,

00:12:56.880 et cetera, et cetera.

00:12:57.520 Like, you know that a lot of eyeballs

00:13:00.120 looked this stuff over,

00:13:01.180 a lot of thought went into it.

00:13:02.800 And the fact that none of them know

00:13:03.840 even basic, basic history

00:13:05.380 about what happened during World War II

00:13:07.220 is pretty, pretty sad.

00:13:09.240 Andrew, did you have any final thoughts on this one?

00:13:11.380 Yeah, I mean, everyone got so into the whole,

00:13:15.060 over the last 10, 15 years,

00:13:16.860 everyone's a Nazi thing.

00:13:18.600 And it's amazing how that everyone is a Nazi

00:13:21.460 except for the literal Nazi.

00:13:23.320 The literal Nazi is not a Nazi,

00:13:24.680 but everyone else is a Nazi.

00:13:25.800 That was the one imbalance I found

00:13:29.600 when this thing first came up

00:13:30.720 that I've been reminded of the last couple of days.

00:13:33.520 Well, and I think this is not,

00:13:35.160 this has not been a strong week for Justin Trudeau.

00:13:37.720 You saw that in the House of Commons.

00:13:39.640 I want to play this clip where Justin Trudeau,

00:13:42.620 he's trying to go after Pierre Polyev,

00:13:45.480 but it really doesn't land.

00:13:47.560 And I think I could give you some credit, Harrison,

00:13:50.500 because you've been talking for a while

00:13:52.000 about how Justin Trudeau is trying

00:13:53.320 to run against Donald Trump and not Pierre Polyev.

00:13:55.580 And this was sort of a weak attempt at that.

00:13:58.060 So let's play this clip here.

00:14:00.160 Speaker, what we hear from the leader of the opposition

00:14:03.540 is under the previous conservative government,

00:14:07.400 everything was perfect.

00:14:08.540 And what he is proposing to do

00:14:10.480 is to make Canada great again.

00:14:13.940 That is not what Canadians want.

00:14:16.500 He is pining for a nostalgia

00:14:18.220 that quite frankly, Canadians do not feel.

00:14:21.040 They remember.

00:14:22.820 Yeah, so that just didn't really land.

00:14:24.380 I do like the part where he was trying to,

00:14:26.360 he was trying to insult to the conservatives

00:14:28.500 by saying that they thought everything

00:14:29.620 was perfect under Harper.

00:14:30.980 And then the conservative side all starts cheering,

00:14:32.700 like, yeah, everything was great under Harper.

00:14:34.320 That's exactly right.

00:14:35.680 And then it was supposed to be going well for Trudeau.

00:14:37.720 And then he tries to land this,

00:14:39.080 like, make Canada great again.

00:14:41.000 And it doesn't roll off the tongue like Meg, it does.

00:14:45.980 Yeah, and it just didn't land.

00:14:50.120 And I think that if most people just heard that sentence,

00:14:52.520 you know, Pierre Polyev wants to make Canada great again.

00:14:55.300 It's like, yeah, who doesn't?

00:14:56.880 Like, that's exactly right.

00:14:58.100 That's what he does want to do.

00:14:59.360 And the conservatives should have all like left up

00:15:01.320 and started doing the standing ovation.

00:15:03.300 Yeah.

00:15:04.000 But it's like, you know, people don't,

00:15:06.200 people aren't as obsessed with Donald Trump

00:15:08.280 and this like line, one line from like 10 years ago.

00:15:11.780 It was almost, I mean, nine years ago, 2015,

00:15:14.800 that he first came up with that make America great again.

00:15:16.920 It's like, you could just tell that Justin Trudeau

00:15:18.640 is so inside this like bubble of political mudslinging

00:15:23.660 that he's obsessed with it and it's not working.

00:15:26.180 I don't know, what do you think, Harrison?

00:15:27.880 Yeah, well, clearly they can't run against Pierre Polyev.

00:15:30.660 They can't run against what he says to Canadians

00:15:33.360 because it works and it's working with the conservatives.

00:15:36.980 Where's the art of subtlety gone?

00:15:38.480 In politics these days, guys.

00:15:40.540 I mean, they can't, the liberals can't even be clever

00:15:43.160 about their approach to try and make Polyev

00:15:45.260 to seem like some sort of Donald Trump,

00:15:48.240 Donald Trump reincarnate in Canada.

00:15:50.840 They put him up on a split screen with Donald Trump

00:15:53.700 and every other week they've got some sort of split screen

00:15:56.260 between what Polyev is saying,

00:15:57.980 exactly how that's what Donald Trump says.

00:15:59.640 And now they're bringing out

00:16:00.860 the make Canada great again line.

00:16:02.440 The reality is Canadians are pining for the nostalgia

00:16:05.740 of a pre-Trudeau Canada.

00:16:07.820 Clearly, things are much worse

00:16:09.840 after this guy's been in power for eight years.

00:16:12.000 That's not even a very controversial thing to say.

00:16:14.800 The majority of Canadians seem to agree on that.

00:16:17.320 I don't think this is gonna land at all,

00:16:19.360 but this is what they wanna do.

00:16:20.840 They're going to, all throughout 2024,

00:16:23.460 they're going to run off the US election, basically.

00:16:26.960 They're gonna try and make the conservatives

00:16:28.320 out to be the Republicans,

00:16:29.840 make Pierre out to be Donald Trump.

00:16:31.060 And, you know, I guess, good luck to them.

00:16:33.400 It's not gonna work, though.

00:16:35.300 Pierre Polyev is such a different political figure

00:16:37.940 than Donald Trump.

00:16:38.760 They really don't have a lot of overlap.

00:16:40.680 Like, sure, yeah, they both believe in, like,

00:16:42.600 I don't know, smaller government.

00:16:44.140 And, like, it's just, it's so trivial.

00:16:46.100 Like, when it comes to their actual personalities

00:16:47.640 and their, where they stand, like, their age,

00:16:50.780 everything about them is so different.

00:16:52.420 It's just a weird comparison.

00:16:54.280 What's your take, Andrew?

00:16:55.660 Well, yeah, but it's just, like,

00:16:57.660 politics and political media coverage

00:16:59.840 are like that in general.

00:17:00.860 It's the same reason that Justin Trudeau

00:17:02.500 for the last, you know, decade

00:17:04.080 has been, you know, comparing and blaming

00:17:06.060 everything and everyone on Harper.

00:17:07.960 It's, you know, the Harper years, the Harper years.

00:17:10.120 And at a certain point, it's like,

00:17:11.120 you've been there for now nine years.

00:17:13.740 I think it's hard to blame Stephen Harper

00:17:16.840 for your government's poor performance,

00:17:18.400 but it's either that or Trump.

00:17:20.520 They just cling to, like, the easiest comparison.

00:17:22.700 I mean, the one thing that Trump has done,

00:17:24.800 which is really annoying, he didn't do it,

00:17:26.920 but has been done around him,

00:17:28.320 is that it's become the laziest,

00:17:30.660 easiest comparison for anyone.

00:17:32.420 It's like you're a stand-up comedian.

00:17:33.740 You go on stage.

00:17:34.420 You don't even have to tell a joke.

00:17:35.560 You just be like, Trump, am I right?

00:17:37.100 And everyone will just like, oh, yeah.

00:17:38.920 And, you know, journalists can just say,

00:17:40.420 like, Trump.

00:17:41.200 Like, I once got into an argument with someone

00:17:43.820 when I did my old radio show.

00:17:45.260 I was defending the zipper merge.

00:17:47.740 The zipper merge, which is a piece of urban planning

00:17:50.520 where, you know, when a lane is closing,

00:17:52.900 it's actually most efficient to alternate,

00:17:55.960 to use both lanes right up until the merge point

00:17:58.140 instead of, like, you know,

00:17:59.380 two kilometers out getting into the lane

00:18:01.180 that's continuing.

00:18:02.060 The reason I share that boring bit of trivia

00:18:04.320 is because I was talking about this

00:18:05.620 and why studies have shown zipper merge is fast.

00:18:08.040 And someone said,

00:18:08.960 you're just like Trump for saying that.

00:18:11.280 And I'm like,

00:18:12.320 was Trump like a known fan of the zipper?

00:18:14.860 But it's just,

00:18:15.820 it's the only thing people know how to,

00:18:18.060 it's the only insult people know now.

00:18:19.780 And I would want to say this as well, Candace,

00:18:22.600 the liberals always try to rail against the conservatives

00:18:24.840 for importing American style politics, right?

00:18:27.900 That's their line against the conservatives

00:18:29.240 before they even tried to-

00:18:30.120 And Hillary Clinton at their convention.

00:18:32.160 Exactly.

00:18:32.900 They're trying to make,

00:18:33.960 they try to blame the conservatives

00:18:35.440 for importing American politics.

00:18:36.780 What could be more,

00:18:37.820 what could be more American politics

00:18:39.740 than making your opposition

00:18:40.820 out to be like the Republican front runner?

00:18:43.840 It's ridiculous.

00:18:45.020 Make a tax Canadian again.

00:18:46.620 That's my slogan.

00:18:47.740 Make a tax Canadian again.

00:18:49.200 We have to make,

00:18:49.800 bring back Canadian arguments in politics.

00:18:52.080 Macca, Macca works much better.

00:18:54.960 No, it's, it's, it's, it's really,

00:18:57.120 no, there's some good points raised.

00:18:58.900 And yeah, the exact idea that any,

00:19:02.220 anything bad you do is,

00:19:03.880 oh, you're Trump.

00:19:04.700 But I just,

00:19:05.260 I just don't think it's going to work.

00:19:06.220 I think that Trump was deeply unpopular,

00:19:08.260 especially in Canada

00:19:08.920 during the beginning part of his first term.

00:19:11.980 But I don't think that's there anymore.

00:19:13.160 I think that people kind of see through it.

00:19:15.220 They don't,

00:19:15.600 they don't see Trump the same way.

00:19:16.840 He doesn't carry the same fear and hysteria

00:19:19.660 that he did in 2016.

00:19:21.140 So again,

00:19:21.580 if this is a liberal strategy,

00:19:23.180 good luck because it doesn't seem to land.

00:19:24.500 Okay.

00:19:24.640 I just want to quickly,

00:19:25.620 quickly cover this story,

00:19:26.680 which is the NDP wants to make it illegal

00:19:29.240 to say good things about Canada.

00:19:31.540 Seriously, seriously.

00:19:32.800 So Charlie Angus,

00:19:34.400 an NDP,

00:19:35.400 and be long time member,

00:19:36.900 tabled a private members bill,

00:19:38.580 Bill C-372,

00:19:40.880 known as the Fossil Fuel Advertising Act.

00:19:43.260 It was tabled earlier this week.

00:19:44.960 Basically,

00:19:45.480 it will criminalize the promotion of fossil fuels.

00:19:48.100 You can go to jail.

00:19:49.180 You can pay a fine up to $1.5 million,

00:19:51.620 up to two years in jail,

00:19:53.220 for promoting Canadian energy.

00:19:57.040 This is real.

00:19:58.620 This is real.

00:19:59.680 And,

00:20:00.400 you know,

00:20:00.980 it's not going to pass.

00:20:01.880 It's not going to go anywhere.

00:20:02.700 The NDP is,

00:20:03.440 is sort of just like the fringe,

00:20:05.460 weird character in Canadian politics.

00:20:08.240 They hold the balance of power.

00:20:09.800 Sure.

00:20:10.680 But,

00:20:11.600 you know,

00:20:12.020 this is the direction they're going.

00:20:13.100 These people truly hate free speech.

00:20:15.820 They don't want you to say nice things about Canada.

00:20:18.040 They don't want you to be proud of your country.

00:20:19.800 They don't like working class jobs.

00:20:21.800 They don't want cheap energy.

00:20:23.680 Like,

00:20:24.080 everything.

00:20:25.100 This just shows us so much about the Canadian left

00:20:27.820 and where the NDP wants to take this country

00:20:30.660 if they were given any more power.

00:20:33.020 Andrew,

00:20:33.300 any thoughts on this one?

00:20:34.640 Yeah,

00:20:34.840 I mean,

00:20:35.180 the basis for what he's doing

00:20:37.140 is he's trying to say that,

00:20:38.600 and it says it in the legislation,

00:20:40.440 in the preamble,

00:20:41.080 that it's based on this climate crisis

00:20:43.100 and that we have to,

00:20:44.820 he said in his remarks,

00:20:45.940 start treating oil and gas

00:20:47.100 the way we've treated big tobacco companies.

00:20:49.100 He made the comparison between,

00:20:50.980 you know,

00:20:51.160 oil and gas saying that,

00:20:52.340 you know,

00:20:52.840 oil and gas is good for the Canadian economy

00:20:54.860 to,

00:20:55.640 you know,

00:20:55.900 what is it?

00:20:56.400 Bensman and Hedges,

00:20:57.320 Rothman and Benson,

00:20:58.220 Rothman,

00:20:58.620 Hedges,

00:20:58.940 whatever,

00:20:59.340 you know,

00:20:59.560 one of the tobacco companies is saying

00:21:01.180 that,

00:21:02.140 oh,

00:21:02.260 you know,

00:21:02.500 tobacco smoking is good for your health.

00:21:03.760 So he's trying to use that precedent

00:21:05.780 to say that the crisis caused by fossil fuels

00:21:09.320 outweigh their right to free speech.

00:21:11.840 But it's kind of amusing

00:21:13.160 because I'm just imagining,

00:21:14.200 like,

00:21:14.340 I don't know,

00:21:15.260 you know,

00:21:15.500 Ontario if we have them,

00:21:16.780 but I'm sure in Alberta,

00:21:17.640 there are these,

00:21:18.400 you know,

00:21:18.760 oil and gas weekly word or whatever.

00:21:20.660 And I'm just imagining,

00:21:21.540 like going into the variety store

00:21:23.180 and,

00:21:23.900 you know,

00:21:24.020 like with your head down

00:21:24.980 and being like,

00:21:25.680 hi,

00:21:25.840 I need the magazines in the back room,

00:21:27.360 if you know what I mean.

00:21:28.540 And the guy says,

00:21:29.680 what are you looking for?

00:21:30.600 Playboy or oil and gas weekly?

00:21:32.020 And it's,

00:21:32.460 you know,

00:21:32.580 it's oil and gas weekly.

00:21:33.760 It's in the plastic cover

00:21:34.760 and more like the cigarettes

00:21:36.280 where,

00:21:36.640 you know,

00:21:36.720 you have to get them to open the case

00:21:38.180 and,

00:21:38.460 you know,

00:21:38.580 quickly close it.

00:21:39.600 And,

00:21:39.700 but it's insane

00:21:41.360 because they're trying to stigmatize

00:21:43.360 a sector that is the lifeblood

00:21:45.100 of the Canadian economy.

00:21:46.920 And it has been

00:21:48.020 and every,

00:21:48.760 every industry is connected.

00:21:50.140 So even like,

00:21:50.940 you know,

00:21:51.260 fancy bankers

00:21:52.120 and,

00:21:52.420 and marketing executives

00:21:53.540 in cities like Vancouver and Toronto

00:21:55.180 that think they're above

00:21:56.000 and removed from oil gas.

00:21:56.980 It's like,

00:21:57.720 no,

00:21:58.000 no,

00:21:58.240 it's all like,

00:21:59.020 like oil and gas

00:21:59.780 is still the Canadian economy.

00:22:01.500 Yes,

00:22:01.580 it's rediversifying,

00:22:02.520 but,

00:22:02.660 but resources have always been

00:22:04.500 Canada's core economic engine

00:22:07.000 and just,

00:22:08.580 yeah,

00:22:08.940 it's,

00:22:09.520 it's,

00:22:09.800 it's wild.

00:22:10.500 Harrison,

00:22:11.000 what's your take on this?

00:22:12.100 Well,

00:22:12.180 this is insane.

00:22:12.740 I can only,

00:22:13.240 I'm thinking about

00:22:14.120 what was going on in Alberta

00:22:15.240 when their power grid

00:22:16.580 basically shut down

00:22:17.680 and,

00:22:18.420 you know,

00:22:18.540 no one is allowed

00:22:19.280 to go on social media

00:22:20.400 and say that,

00:22:21.280 oh,

00:22:21.320 I really wish we had natural gas

00:22:23.040 to,

00:22:23.720 to stay warm

00:22:24.540 in the coldest day of the winter.

00:22:26.100 Otherwise,

00:22:26.400 they might get fined

00:22:27.460 for saying something like that.

00:22:28.660 They,

00:22:28.860 they might get fined

00:22:29.720 for noticing that actually,

00:22:30.940 you know,

00:22:31.620 the wind and the,

00:22:32.580 and the solar

00:22:33.220 isn't keeping them warm

00:22:34.600 in like minus 40 weather.

00:22:37.360 It's just absurd.

00:22:38.860 It's very NDP though,

00:22:40.140 right?

00:22:40.360 This is not,

00:22:41.220 I wish I was surprised

00:22:42.560 when I read this story yesterday,

00:22:43.940 but it was more,

00:22:44.980 it was more just like,

00:22:45.980 oh,

00:22:46.140 Charlie Angus is speaking.

00:22:47.280 Oh,

00:22:47.400 of course,

00:22:48.140 of course he's putting this,

00:22:49.160 this bill forward.

00:22:49.880 I would have been

00:22:51.080 a little less surprised

00:22:52.080 had it come from Elizabeth May,

00:22:53.380 but NDP,

00:22:54.480 that's pretty close these days.

00:22:56.460 You're right.

00:22:57.200 And just like the core

00:22:58.660 of their,

00:22:59.340 of their thinking

00:23:00.080 is that they hate free speech.

00:23:01.500 They want to ban it.

00:23:02.580 They,

00:23:02.780 they say that what they,

00:23:03.880 what this is,

00:23:04.740 this kind of takes me

00:23:05.640 to the whole like post truth argument

00:23:07.920 that we don't agree

00:23:09.600 on the facts anymore.

00:23:10.540 So what Charlie Angus is saying

00:23:12.780 is that he is the arbiter

00:23:14.680 of what is true.

00:23:15.960 And if you disagree with him,

00:23:17.680 it is disinformation

00:23:18.820 to the point

00:23:20.160 where you should go to jail,

00:23:21.460 which,

00:23:22.540 you know,

00:23:23.080 this is,

00:23:23.420 this is authoritarian.

00:23:24.600 This is authoritarianism.

00:23:25.740 It's not,

00:23:26.920 it's,

00:23:27.200 we're not talking about

00:23:28.920 like a democratic parameter here.

00:23:31.000 You're,

00:23:31.240 you're talking about demonizing speech

00:23:33.040 that you personally disagree with.

00:23:35.100 It's,

00:23:35.660 it's insane.

00:23:36.900 It's insane.

00:23:37.280 Yeah,

00:23:37.460 but I think we can just,

00:23:38.720 if this is the rule

00:23:39.900 and this is what we're now allowed to do,

00:23:41.680 I think some conservative needs

00:23:43.100 to introduce a private member's bill

00:23:44.720 saying it is illegal

00:23:46.560 to promote the virtues

00:23:47.640 of socialism in Canada.

00:23:49.600 Socialism has killed millions of people.

00:23:51.720 It's very harmful.

00:23:53.120 It's harmful to the economy.

00:23:54.340 It's harmful to people's lives.

00:23:56.040 So anyone who does that

00:23:57.700 is endangering people.

00:23:58.900 So you can't promote

00:23:59.900 the virtues of socialism.

00:24:01.640 The good news is

00:24:02.300 the NDP will save money

00:24:03.320 on its ad budget

00:24:04.020 when they're not allowed to run any.

00:24:05.660 They're not,

00:24:06.180 they're not allowed to speak anymore

00:24:07.300 because I,

00:24:07.960 yeah,

00:24:08.140 yeah,

00:24:08.700 sorry,

00:24:08.980 Charlie Angus

00:24:09.600 It'll be like

00:24:11.600 when Elizabeth May

00:24:12.220 got pulled off stage

00:24:13.160 by at least the rate.

00:24:14.420 We'll just have to pull

00:24:15.060 Charlie Angus off stage

00:24:16.460 like he's gone on too long

00:24:18.040 at the Oscars

00:24:18.740 like Marlon Brando's substitute.

00:24:21.680 There's a dated reference,

00:24:22.820 but yeah,

00:24:23.540 we'll have to,

00:24:24.000 it'll just be great.

00:24:24.940 It'll sanitize political discourse

00:24:27.040 in this country.

00:24:27.980 No,

00:24:28.240 that would be some top level trolling

00:24:29.660 if the conservatives

00:24:30.300 were to actually do that.

00:24:31.260 I would,

00:24:31.460 I would applaud that

00:24:32.520 just for trolling,

00:24:33.420 not because I would actually

00:24:34.540 want that to be the case.

00:24:35.940 But speaking of socialism,

00:24:36.840 let's try that transition.

00:24:38.140 Great segue,

00:24:39.680 I love that.

00:24:40.020 Speaking of socialism,

00:24:41.140 everything in Ottawa

00:24:42.000 is speaking of socialism.

00:24:43.760 For the last few years,

00:24:45.760 the NDP have been on this

00:24:47.180 sort of crusade

00:24:48.220 against grocery stores

00:24:49.600 in Canada

00:24:50.080 and sort of blaming

00:24:51.120 the companies

00:24:52.300 for the sort of consequences

00:24:54.940 of Justin Trudeau's

00:24:55.960 pandemic policies.

00:24:57.240 So the idea that

00:24:58.440 they printed a lot of money,

00:24:59.720 they gave away a lot of money

00:25:00.700 during the pandemic

00:25:01.320 that led to inflation.

00:25:02.880 There was a whole bunch

00:25:03.840 of supply chain issues

00:25:04.900 when things were started

00:25:05.720 to get back up again

00:25:06.920 because the government

00:25:07.560 shut down the economy

00:25:08.620 and then it took a while

00:25:09.740 for the economy

00:25:10.300 to get caught up.

00:25:11.900 That whole time,

00:25:12.920 rather than looking

00:25:13.660 at the economic picture,

00:25:16.120 the left,

00:25:17.400 the NDP

00:25:18.500 and some liberals

00:25:19.520 just accused the companies.

00:25:21.880 It was all the companies' fault.

00:25:22.980 It was law,

00:25:23.420 blah.

00:25:23.760 It was greed.

00:25:24.800 It was big grocers

00:25:25.620 that are causing

00:25:26.460 high food prices in Canada.

00:25:27.780 It's not the government's fault.

00:25:29.020 There's inflation.

00:25:29.760 It's law,

00:25:30.500 blah's fault.

00:25:31.420 So it was all corporate greed

00:25:33.120 and profiteering.

00:25:33.520 It just seems like

00:25:34.380 the Ottawa bubble

00:25:35.800 just sort of really hates law, blah.

00:25:37.300 So it became a big scandal

00:25:38.780 this week

00:25:39.340 when Justin Trudeau

00:25:40.360 alerted the country

00:25:41.540 that Pierre Polyev's advisor,

00:25:44.220 Jenny Byrne,

00:25:45.000 is actually lobbying

00:25:46.020 for law, blah.

00:25:48.360 So let's play this clip

00:25:49.620 of Justin Trudeau,

00:25:50.980 you know,

00:25:52.000 again,

00:25:52.440 pointing the finger

00:25:53.100 and basically saying

00:25:54.020 that it's all the conservatives' fault now

00:25:56.000 that your food prices

00:25:57.260 are too high.

00:25:59.140 Pierre Polyev

00:26:00.060 has been standing up

00:26:01.880 for months now

00:26:03.420 pretending

00:26:04.300 that he cares

00:26:05.580 about high grocery prices

00:26:07.560 faced by Canadians.

00:26:09.440 And it turns out

00:26:10.380 that his top advisor

00:26:12.860 is working

00:26:14.380 as a lobbyist

00:26:15.620 for Loblaws.

00:26:18.300 I think Mr. Polyev

00:26:19.260 owes some explanations

00:26:20.280 to Canadians.

00:26:22.400 Okay,

00:26:23.220 so Mr. Drama,

00:26:24.220 Mr. Drama Queen,

00:26:25.360 there giving his,

00:26:26.520 you know,

00:26:27.580 explanation

00:26:28.160 and his super serious voice

00:26:29.960 that it's all the conservatives' fault

00:26:32.040 that prices are too high.

00:26:33.820 Well,

00:26:34.440 oops,

00:26:35.280 Pierre Polyev

00:26:35.840 came back

00:26:36.440 at Justin Trudeau

00:26:37.280 in question period

00:26:38.440 with his own response.

00:26:40.340 So let's play that clip.

00:26:45.380 You're getting desperate

00:26:46.660 if he has to blame

00:26:47.580 conservative campaign workers

00:26:49.080 for the fact

00:26:49.640 that he raised food prices,

00:26:51.960 especially when,

00:26:53.060 Mr. Speaker,

00:26:53.560 the Prime Minister's

00:26:56.320 new marketing director,

00:26:57.980 Max Veliket,

00:26:59.280 did marketing

00:27:00.200 for Loblaws

00:27:01.200 for four years.

00:27:03.780 Don Guy,

00:27:05.240 Don Guy,

00:27:06.460 the Prime Minister's

00:27:07.660 chief pollster,

00:27:09.200 works for GT & Co,

00:27:10.800 which collects checks

00:27:11.720 from Loblaws.

00:27:13.600 As does Dan Arnold,

00:27:15.320 his other pollster,

00:27:16.600 getting checks

00:27:17.280 from Loblaws.

00:27:18.480 Are they the ones

00:27:19.340 that forced him

00:27:20.020 to quadruple

00:27:20.620 the carbon tax

00:27:21.380 in our family?

00:27:21.860 Gotta love the drama,

00:27:24.620 the fake drama

00:27:25.340 question period.

00:27:26.280 Like, oh my goodness,

00:27:27.220 can you believe it, fellas?

00:27:28.740 They're all lobbying

00:27:29.640 for Loblaws.

00:27:30.540 Everybody's lobbying.

00:27:31.160 Like the Scooby-Doo

00:27:31.600 mask moment of like,

00:27:33.040 look behind this

00:27:33.980 Galen Weston mask.

00:27:35.020 It's the liberal pollster.

00:27:37.620 Yeah, so it turns out

00:27:39.140 that a lot of political staffers

00:27:40.940 have side hustles

00:27:42.440 as lobbyists.

00:27:43.180 A lot of these guys

00:27:43.740 work for companies

00:27:44.720 and they also work

00:27:45.560 for political parties.

00:27:47.440 And so just to go back

00:27:49.020 to Justin Trudeau's

00:27:49.800 like huge dramatic moment

00:27:51.440 about how it was all

00:27:52.440 Pierre Polyev's

00:27:53.720 consultant's fault

00:27:54.800 that food prices

00:27:55.860 are too high.

00:27:57.160 Yeah, that didn't land

00:27:58.420 very well.

00:27:58.880 And then Andrew came in

00:27:59.540 with his own scoop,

00:28:00.600 which was that even the NDP,

00:28:01.980 even the socialists

00:28:03.060 who have long been calling

00:28:04.340 corporate greed

00:28:05.720 the culprit.

00:28:07.220 Well, Andrew,

00:28:07.740 I'll let you explain

00:28:08.340 your own scoop.

00:28:09.080 Yeah, so Don Guy,

00:28:10.340 who Polyev mentioned,

00:28:11.800 co-owns this GTing company

00:28:13.980 with Brian Topp,

00:28:15.020 who's a longtime NDP advisor

00:28:17.520 and chief of staff

00:28:18.560 and what not

00:28:19.000 and Brian Topp

00:28:19.840 and Don Guy

00:28:20.620 and Business Together,

00:28:21.420 their business lobbies

00:28:22.760 Loblaws as recently

00:28:24.180 as last year.

00:28:26.100 They had an active lobbyist there.

00:28:29.020 So it's kind of rich here

00:28:31.260 that you have these folks saying,

00:28:33.820 oh, well,

00:28:34.240 anyone who works

00:28:34.840 for Loblaws is the problem.

00:28:36.560 And I should just say,

00:28:37.580 Jenny Byrne,

00:28:38.280 who Justin Trudeau

00:28:38.940 was talking about

00:28:39.600 in his criticism of Polyev,

00:28:41.380 doesn't actually lobby

00:28:42.400 for Loblaws.

00:28:43.360 She owns the firm

00:28:44.520 who has lobbied

00:28:46.540 and does lobby for Loblaws

00:28:48.120 provincially in Ontario.

00:28:49.660 So it's the exact same

00:28:51.080 as right here

00:28:51.760 where the owner

00:28:52.860 of the company

00:28:53.500 is the liberal

00:28:54.500 and NDP advisor

00:28:55.920 and then that company

00:28:57.560 is getting contracts.

00:28:58.580 So completely analogous,

00:28:59.940 apples to apples comparison.

00:29:01.680 But of course,

00:29:02.120 the criticism only works

00:29:03.140 when it's directed

00:29:03.780 towards the right.

00:29:05.440 I mean,

00:29:06.400 I guess there's two things.

00:29:07.540 One,

00:29:07.800 it just shows you

00:29:08.460 the inside world of Ottawa

00:29:09.460 and how basically insincere

00:29:11.200 it all is

00:29:11.820 because they'll sit there

00:29:12.660 and they'll political posture.

00:29:13.760 But then when you look at,

00:29:14.480 you know,

00:29:14.620 you mentioned Galen Weston

00:29:16.320 Andrew,

00:29:16.860 who's the owner

00:29:17.640 and very,

00:29:18.560 very wealthy,

00:29:19.440 self-made Canadian,

00:29:20.980 you know,

00:29:21.580 he donates to the liberals.

00:29:22.860 He also donates

00:29:23.520 to the conservatives.

00:29:24.400 Like you can play this game

00:29:25.780 all day long.

00:29:26.840 Like this,

00:29:27.160 you know,

00:29:27.680 there is a lot

00:29:29.500 of political connections

00:29:31.440 and a lot of crony capitalism

00:29:33.620 and corporatism

00:29:34.500 when it comes

00:29:35.560 to these big Canadian corporations

00:29:37.400 and government.

00:29:39.260 So it's just a silly game

00:29:40.720 to go down,

00:29:41.520 a silly hole to go down.

00:29:42.760 Harrison,

00:29:43.080 what's your take?

00:29:44.220 Yeah,

00:29:44.360 I think all Canadians

00:29:45.200 will take from this

00:29:46.560 is the fact that

00:29:47.380 basically everyone in Ottawa,

00:29:49.460 when they're not a staffer,

00:29:51.080 they're lobbying for a company.

00:29:52.340 And then when they're not

00:29:52.920 lobbying for a company,

00:29:53.720 they're creating good

00:29:54.540 little political one-liners

00:29:55.740 to rail against the company

00:29:56.900 that they were lobbying for.

00:29:58.240 And let's be honest

00:29:59.500 about something as well.

00:30:00.680 The people in the House of Commons

00:30:02.160 sitting behind

00:30:03.000 Justin Trudeau

00:30:04.180 and sitting behind

00:30:04.920 Pierre Polyev

00:30:05.640 making all those

00:30:06.360 ridiculously dramatic faces

00:30:07.840 and weird noises,

00:30:09.260 they also,

00:30:09.800 many of them

00:30:10.520 were lobbyists

00:30:11.380 before entering politics

00:30:12.500 as well.

00:30:13.600 So it's just

00:30:14.440 the world of Ottawa.

00:30:15.620 No Canadians

00:30:16.100 should be surprised.

00:30:17.000 And again,

00:30:17.660 it's one of those weird

00:30:18.460 cheap political attacks

00:30:20.160 where the people

00:30:20.600 who came up with this

00:30:21.460 didn't have the foresight

00:30:22.700 to realize that

00:30:23.520 they were going to just

00:30:24.560 have this rebounded

00:30:25.580 back on them.

00:30:26.900 Well,

00:30:27.340 it is kind of interesting

00:30:28.200 because,

00:30:28.920 I mean,

00:30:29.640 there's an interesting

00:30:30.680 broader debate

00:30:31.780 about like why things

00:30:32.920 are so expensive in Canada.

00:30:34.080 And you can look at like

00:30:35.020 how our banking industry,

00:30:36.560 our airline industry,

00:30:37.520 our telecoms industry,

00:30:38.600 they're all heavily regulated

00:30:40.400 and there's a lot of rules

00:30:41.660 about who can participate

00:30:43.080 in these markets.

00:30:43.880 And because of it,

00:30:44.540 Canadians do pay

00:30:45.540 much higher rates

00:30:47.040 on a lot of things

00:30:48.080 than Americans.

00:30:49.160 Everyone knows

00:30:49.740 it's way cheaper to fly

00:30:50.780 in the US

00:30:51.600 than it is to fly

00:30:52.460 across Canada.

00:30:53.900 Like you can,

00:30:54.500 you get a flight from like

00:30:55.660 LA to New York

00:30:57.400 for like 70 bucks,

00:30:58.620 right?

00:30:58.880 And if you're flying

00:30:59.760 from Vancouver to Toronto,

00:31:01.140 it's like $800.

00:31:02.500 Like it's just like

00:31:03.380 a totally different mark

00:31:04.020 because they have so much

00:31:04.640 more competition.

00:31:05.780 And I think that there is

00:31:06.500 something about how

00:31:07.420 the Canadian government

00:31:08.260 regulates these industries

00:31:10.020 that causes this kind

00:31:12.660 of like price.

00:31:13.460 It feels like price gouging,

00:31:14.840 but it's really just

00:31:15.360 a lack of competition.

00:31:17.180 But then at the same time,

00:31:18.240 when it comes to this issue

00:31:19.920 of grocery stores,

00:31:21.280 it's like,

00:31:22.260 it's like,

00:31:22.820 well,

00:31:23.600 we try,

00:31:24.340 sometimes they do bring

00:31:25.480 in competition.

00:31:26.260 It'll be like an American

00:31:27.120 chain that tries to open.

00:31:28.100 We saw it with Target.

00:31:28.900 I know Target is more

00:31:29.660 like a big box store,

00:31:30.760 but they tried to come

00:31:32.260 into the Canadian market

00:31:32.960 and they just couldn't

00:31:33.520 make it work.

00:31:34.180 It was just too expensive

00:31:35.080 because of our prices,

00:31:36.260 because of everything else.

00:31:37.200 And it was interesting.

00:31:38.460 There was a committee meeting

00:31:39.340 yesterday or earlier

00:31:41.020 this week,

00:31:41.440 Wednesday,

00:31:41.980 and basically brought

00:31:43.600 an expert to talk

00:31:44.340 about why food pricing

00:31:45.200 was so high.

00:31:46.320 And he basically said

00:31:47.040 it's because of the carbon tax.

00:31:48.180 It's because of the taxes

00:31:49.660 on truckers

00:31:50.440 and the taxes on,

00:31:51.600 you know,

00:31:51.840 it's all passed through

00:31:53.680 back to the consumer.

00:31:55.160 And so there are

00:31:56.440 different problems

00:31:57.240 in the Canadian

00:31:58.280 sort of pricing system.

00:32:00.980 But this whole theatrics

00:32:02.640 of like,

00:32:03.000 let's just blame the companies

00:32:04.080 and then blame the lobbyists

00:32:05.240 and then it turns out

00:32:05.880 we're all lobbying.

00:32:06.560 Like,

00:32:06.960 it just misses a point.

00:32:07.940 It just shows like

00:32:08.460 how Ottawa just,

00:32:09.800 sometimes it's such a bubble.

00:32:11.600 It looks bad on all parties,

00:32:12.900 but they don't talk

00:32:13.680 about the real issue.

00:32:14.820 They kind of bypass it

00:32:15.940 and play these political games.

00:32:17.220 Andrew,

00:32:17.460 what's your take?

00:32:18.720 Yeah,

00:32:19.180 I think you're right about that.

00:32:20.420 And I think it's also

00:32:21.880 very difficult

00:32:22.680 anytime someone,

00:32:23.760 even with the carbon tax,

00:32:24.800 tries to put a single cause

00:32:26.400 on this

00:32:27.300 because there are layered

00:32:28.580 and overlapping phenomena.

00:32:30.120 You have the carbon tax,

00:32:31.200 you have inflation,

00:32:32.120 you have regulation,

00:32:33.300 you have labour costs.

00:32:34.400 I mean,

00:32:34.540 that was one of the big things

00:32:35.500 for Target,

00:32:36.120 why Target had such

00:32:37.240 a difficult time in Canada

00:32:38.400 compared to the US

00:32:39.700 because the labour

00:32:40.660 and supply chains

00:32:42.360 were just not

00:32:43.200 what they were used to.

00:32:44.100 So Canadians

00:32:44.620 that live near the border

00:32:45.820 that had been

00:32:46.460 to American Targets

00:32:47.500 were going to Canadian Target

00:32:49.040 and being like,

00:32:49.540 oh,

00:32:49.720 this is,

00:32:50.420 like this isn't

00:32:51.180 what I thought Target was.

00:32:52.340 So the company decided

00:32:53.820 to pull out.

00:32:54.840 So I think with Loblaws,

00:32:56.480 the Liberal government

00:32:57.340 has wanted to take away

00:32:58.840 any of these factors

00:33:00.020 that it has responsibility for.

00:33:02.580 And I would include in that

00:33:03.440 definitely the carbon tax

00:33:04.460 to a large extent inflation.

00:33:06.020 And it's a lot easy

00:33:06.940 to look at the rich guys

00:33:08.720 that run the companies

00:33:09.980 and say they're the problem

00:33:12.140 when that is

00:33:13.680 a gross oversimplification.

00:33:15.600 And I would say

00:33:16.260 if you were to list

00:33:16.840 the top 10 reasons

00:33:17.840 that grocery prices

00:33:19.860 are high

00:33:20.720 and unaffordable

00:33:21.260 for many Canadians,

00:33:22.420 CEO salaries,

00:33:23.320 I don't even think

00:33:23.880 it's going to be

00:33:24.200 on that list.

00:33:26.020 Yeah,

00:33:26.540 that's right.

00:33:26.960 It's an easy scapegoat.

00:33:29.200 And again,

00:33:29.660 I think when it comes

00:33:30.440 to the cost of living,

00:33:32.700 it's not just in the food,

00:33:33.780 it's not just

00:33:34.180 in the grocery stores

00:33:35.000 that we see this issue.

00:33:36.260 It's across the board.

00:33:37.520 And so,

00:33:38.200 Harrison,

00:33:38.460 you had a great report

00:33:39.740 looking at the housing crisis

00:33:41.840 and the rise

00:33:42.520 of these slumlords

00:33:43.340 in Toronto.

00:33:43.860 I couldn't believe

00:33:44.240 some of these pictures

00:33:44.960 that you were showing me.

00:33:46.240 So why don't you

00:33:47.320 walk us through the story?

00:33:48.980 Yeah.

00:33:49.220 So over the weekend,

00:33:50.080 I was on X and Reddit.

00:33:52.700 I don't usually go on Reddit,

00:33:53.680 but I was on there

00:33:54.300 because I followed

00:33:54.820 this subreddit

00:33:55.560 called Canada Housing 2.

00:33:57.320 And I started to see

00:33:58.500 these unbelievable

00:33:59.720 rent listings,

00:34:00.860 these slumlord listings

00:34:02.120 pop up,

00:34:03.120 pointing out just how

00:34:04.020 unbelievable

00:34:04.800 the state of the rental market

00:34:05.900 is in this country,

00:34:06.700 particularly in Toronto

00:34:07.840 and the GTA.

00:34:09.080 And I want to just

00:34:09.800 highlight for you

00:34:11.160 some of the listings

00:34:12.140 that are available

00:34:13.060 or that were available.

00:34:14.560 They might have already

00:34:15.120 been taken by people

00:34:15.940 who are just desperate

00:34:16.740 to put a roof over their head

00:34:19.000 and to do so

00:34:19.840 without having to spend

00:34:20.900 thousands of dollars.

00:34:22.340 But this is utterly insane.

00:34:24.720 So we first saw this listing.

00:34:27.100 This is for $500 a month.

00:34:29.380 Okay.

00:34:30.040 And this is in Scarborough,

00:34:31.500 we believe.

00:34:32.260 Take a look at this, guys.

00:34:33.220 This is what you can get

00:34:34.080 for $500 a month.

00:34:35.680 That is smaller than a jail cell,

00:34:37.240 I've been told

00:34:37.780 in the comments of the video.

00:34:39.180 At least you get

00:34:40.060 like a nice lamp

00:34:41.100 and a bedside table

00:34:42.100 and you get some fresh air,

00:34:43.980 but you don't have

00:34:44.540 finished walls.

00:34:45.580 This is like in the back corner

00:34:46.900 of some basement.

00:34:48.560 It's just terrible.

00:34:50.120 And this is what's available

00:34:51.460 for $500.

00:34:52.660 Put that up again, Jacob.

00:34:55.280 Is that blood on the comforter?

00:34:59.040 I think that's just

00:35:00.480 the artistic design.

00:35:02.060 Okay.

00:35:03.320 Artistic blood splatters.

00:35:04.740 All right.

00:35:04.940 A new phenomenon,

00:35:06.220 you know,

00:35:07.100 concrete brick basement apartments.

00:35:09.040 It kind of fits

00:35:10.180 with the jailhouse style,

00:35:13.600 I think,

00:35:14.120 if that really were

00:35:15.100 what it is.

00:35:16.200 But hold on,

00:35:16.760 it just gets even worse here.

00:35:19.140 So let's put up

00:35:20.120 this next listing

00:35:21.020 that we have

00:35:22.060 because this is just ridiculous.

00:35:24.820 I think this next one

00:35:25.720 is for $400.

00:35:27.780 It's in downtown.

00:35:29.300 I said it was downtown Toronto.

00:35:30.700 It's not really downtown Toronto,

00:35:32.220 but again,

00:35:32.620 compared to Scarborough and Brampton,

00:35:33.840 this is right in the heart

00:35:34.620 of the city.

00:35:35.420 For $400,

00:35:36.140 you can live in the hallway

00:35:37.980 on a mattress

00:35:38.900 on the floor

00:35:39.720 of a really dirty house.

00:35:41.740 Let's just call it what it is.

00:35:43.000 This is listed

00:35:43.660 on Facebook Marketplace.

00:35:45.560 It might still be available

00:35:46.440 right now.

00:35:47.540 This is where you can

00:35:48.340 rent this out

00:35:49.380 to live on a mattress

00:35:51.020 in a hallway.

00:35:52.480 It's just ridiculous

00:35:53.340 the state

00:35:53.940 of the rental market here.

00:35:56.040 I want to show you one more

00:35:57.420 because

00:35:58.180 it is just,

00:35:59.680 it's just absurd.

00:36:00.980 Now,

00:36:01.240 this one is an exclusive listing

00:36:02.820 as I noted.

00:36:03.680 It's exclusively for

00:36:05.040 females

00:36:06.060 who are renting

00:36:06.680 this place out

00:36:07.400 and you have to share

00:36:09.000 this bed

00:36:10.100 and single room

00:36:11.440 with a boy

00:36:12.480 and on top

00:36:13.900 of the $300

00:36:14.480 and sharing

00:36:15.440 of the bed

00:36:15.940 and the room

00:36:16.360 with the boy,

00:36:17.000 you have to do

00:36:17.700 the cooking

00:36:18.120 for the landlord here.

00:36:21.000 I'm not joking.

00:36:21.900 This made its way

00:36:22.480 to blog TO

00:36:23.240 so you can take

00:36:24.620 their word for it.

00:36:26.120 It's also been listed

00:36:27.420 on the Slumlords

00:36:28.280 of Canada Reddit page

00:36:29.320 and I just want to read

00:36:30.160 the description

00:36:31.020 of this listing for you

00:36:31.940 so you get an idea

00:36:32.620 of who,

00:36:33.320 you know,

00:36:33.780 who the tenant is

00:36:34.660 or who the landlord

00:36:35.600 might be.

00:36:36.700 Room available

00:36:37.320 for girl

00:36:37.960 and sharing

00:36:38.600 with boy.

00:36:39.720 Good behavior.

00:36:40.620 Girl must know

00:36:41.360 cooking.

00:36:41.920 Rest of the work

00:36:42.640 boy will do.

00:36:43.920 Washroom is in sharing

00:36:45.320 and kitchen also.

00:36:46.880 So $300

00:36:47.680 for exclusively

00:36:49.580 for a woman

00:36:50.860 to rent out this apartment.

00:36:52.520 I have one more

00:36:53.480 for you

00:36:53.800 that I just found.

00:36:54.640 This is in Brampton.

00:36:55.840 A house in Brampton

00:36:56.840 has apparently been,

00:36:58.660 multiple rooms

00:36:59.440 in this house

00:36:59.900 have been rented out.

00:37:01.240 People are now

00:37:01.780 living inside

00:37:02.460 of a car

00:37:03.200 in the driveway

00:37:04.600 of this Brampton house

00:37:06.440 and urinating

00:37:07.020 on the side

00:37:07.480 of the house.

00:37:07.880 So this is the state

00:37:09.280 of what we're working

00:37:10.320 with here in Canada.

00:37:11.160 The slumlords

00:37:12.080 have taken over

00:37:13.060 and living conditions

00:37:14.380 have plummeted

00:37:15.040 all because

00:37:15.700 of insane levels

00:37:17.420 of immigration

00:37:18.400 to this country

00:37:19.080 and of course

00:37:20.000 inflation that has made

00:37:21.140 basically everything

00:37:22.580 way too expensive.

00:37:24.440 It's just terrible.

00:37:25.700 I didn't know

00:37:26.020 you had to pay

00:37:26.840 to be a live-in chef now.

00:37:28.440 That was,

00:37:29.120 Yes.

00:37:29.620 I thought it was like,

00:37:30.640 because I always imagine,

00:37:31.800 you know,

00:37:32.020 when I, you know,

00:37:32.560 strike it big,

00:37:33.280 I pay to have

00:37:34.020 the live-in chef.

00:37:34.740 I didn't know

00:37:35.100 I could get paid

00:37:35.980 to have someone

00:37:36.860 come into my home

00:37:37.980 and cook for me every day.

00:37:39.100 That sounds like

00:37:39.520 actually a pretty sweet deal.

00:37:40.700 Well, I wonder who ends up

00:37:41.360 not for the person

00:37:41.960 living there.

00:37:42.700 No.

00:37:43.080 If the chef has to pay

00:37:44.200 for the food,

00:37:44.700 then it's not really,

00:37:45.440 you know,

00:37:45.540 it's more than $300 a month

00:37:47.020 and you're really,

00:37:47.880 you're really,

00:37:48.420 you really got a bad deal.

00:37:50.380 I mean, this is sad.

00:37:51.620 It's unbelievable

00:37:52.440 what people are willing

00:37:54.300 to do and to live in.

00:37:56.500 And look, I mean,

00:37:57.280 I think when you're young,

00:37:58.040 you're willing to,

00:37:58.920 you know,

00:37:59.900 live in pretty rough

00:38:01.400 living conditions.

00:38:02.160 I know a lot of guys

00:38:03.380 that go up to camps

00:38:04.380 and they live in pretty

00:38:05.380 brutal conditions

00:38:06.220 for a couple weeks

00:38:06.940 so that they can make

00:38:07.860 some money

00:38:08.240 and come back in.

00:38:09.540 But that's not even

00:38:10.260 what this is, right?

00:38:11.220 This is like,

00:38:12.340 they've allowed

00:38:13.060 so many international students

00:38:14.440 to come into the country.

00:38:15.660 A lot of them

00:38:16.080 don't have any option

00:38:16.900 for housing.

00:38:17.920 That's what they do.

00:38:18.560 It's like,

00:38:18.840 oh, let's just get like 20 guys

00:38:20.120 to live in a basement.

00:38:21.080 I mean,

00:38:21.340 I can't imagine that first

00:38:22.360 when you show it

00:38:22.880 looked like a jailhouse.

00:38:24.140 I can't imagine

00:38:24.920 what the rest

00:38:25.280 of the basement looks like.

00:38:26.320 Is it just like,

00:38:27.180 is it just like a dorm room

00:38:28.720 or like a,

00:38:29.300 like a hostel full of beds

00:38:30.860 on the floor

00:38:31.500 in an unfinished basement?

00:38:32.520 Like that's,

00:38:33.480 that's,

00:38:33.880 that's pretty rough.

00:38:34.720 And I,

00:38:35.660 I'm usually not very kind.

00:38:37.120 I,

00:38:37.360 there's this trend

00:38:38.180 that I really don't like,

00:38:39.220 which is like a bunch of,

00:38:40.980 you know,

00:38:41.360 younger people complaining

00:38:43.220 that they can't buy a house

00:38:44.200 and blaming it

00:38:44.620 on the prime minister.

00:38:45.260 It's like,

00:38:46.100 you know what?

00:38:47.240 Yeah,

00:38:47.640 it's tough

00:38:48.260 and you got to save up

00:38:49.840 and you got to make sacrifices,

00:38:50.980 but let's not just sit here

00:38:52.280 and like blame our prime minister.

00:38:53.620 If you personally

00:38:54.780 are like in your thirties

00:38:55.840 and you can't afford

00:38:56.740 to buy a house,

00:38:57.820 like you got to own some of that.

00:38:59.560 Some of that

00:38:59.920 is personal responsibility.

00:39:00.960 Like you need to save up.

00:39:02.900 You need to make good decisions,

00:39:03.920 like live with roommates

00:39:05.280 and save your paychecks

00:39:06.740 until you can afford something.

00:39:07.940 And,

00:39:08.120 and I get the fact

00:39:08.920 that down payments

00:39:09.700 are like super crazy now.

00:39:11.060 It's like,

00:39:11.360 well,

00:39:11.500 don't buy a house in Toronto,

00:39:12.880 like go move somewhere else,

00:39:14.360 go live in a different part

00:39:15.240 of the country,

00:39:16.200 go live in Saskatchewan.

00:39:17.200 It's still relatively cheap

00:39:18.360 or go live in Edmonton.

00:39:19.660 You can,

00:39:19.960 you can still,

00:39:20.820 you know,

00:39:21.420 afford to buy something

00:39:22.660 a little bit better there

00:39:23.900 or other parts of the country.

00:39:25.000 But,

00:39:25.320 but then when,

00:39:26.040 when you see the situation,

00:39:27.420 you just think about

00:39:28.020 the people

00:39:28.480 who are forced

00:39:29.620 into that situation

00:39:30.640 and that that's

00:39:31.420 the only option they have.

00:39:32.320 It's like,

00:39:32.860 this is a problem.

00:39:34.200 And I do think

00:39:35.480 a lot of it

00:39:35.860 is immigration related.

00:39:36.900 Andrew,

00:39:37.160 what's your take?

00:39:38.440 I think a lot of it

00:39:39.600 is immigration related.

00:39:40.760 I think there is something to,

00:39:43.060 I don't know if I,

00:39:44.460 I think some people

00:39:45.040 who are in their thirties

00:39:46.180 that got a later start

00:39:48.380 in career and life,

00:39:49.580 I'm very sympathetic

00:39:50.800 to them not being able

00:39:52.000 to do it

00:39:52.360 because for a lot of people

00:39:53.700 to have a single family home,

00:39:55.240 if they are single

00:39:56.820 and have a single income,

00:39:58.300 it is incredibly difficult.

00:39:59.580 I will say though,

00:40:00.920 I thought there was

00:40:01.800 a lot of truth

00:40:02.500 to the point

00:40:03.620 that people are

00:40:04.260 a lot too picky,

00:40:05.320 a lot more picky

00:40:06.120 than they should be on location.

00:40:07.700 I think a lot of people,

00:40:09.100 like I've heard stories

00:40:10.120 and I've known people

00:40:10.860 that have made the decision

00:40:11.900 to move hours and hours

00:40:14.300 outside of the cities

00:40:15.180 because they can get a start there

00:40:16.480 and in the remote work economy

00:40:17.820 for a lot of people,

00:40:19.060 not for everyone,

00:40:20.640 you can do it.

00:40:21.540 So I think if you're stuck

00:40:22.720 on this fantasy

00:40:23.720 of living in Toronto

00:40:24.660 or Vancouver

00:40:25.420 just because you want to be

00:40:27.740 and not for any professional

00:40:29.720 or significant reason,

00:40:32.720 I think you should probably

00:40:33.980 try to shake that

00:40:34.880 because that's the only way

00:40:35.940 you'll be able to do it now.

00:40:37.700 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:40:38.760 Like I can kind of relate

00:40:39.920 to it too.

00:40:40.380 Like, look,

00:40:40.700 I grew up in Vancouver

00:40:41.560 in a neighborhood

00:40:42.700 where I think the average

00:40:44.080 single family home

00:40:45.180 is now like $3 million

00:40:46.440 and it was not like that

00:40:47.720 when I was growing up.

00:40:48.720 Like it was a fine

00:40:50.160 middle-class neighborhood,

00:40:51.160 but it wasn't

00:40:51.740 to the extent it was.

00:40:53.180 But even, you know,

00:40:54.080 by the time I graduated

00:40:55.100 high school

00:40:55.660 and left university,

00:40:56.940 which we're now talking about,

00:40:57.980 you know,

00:40:58.160 like 15 years ago,

00:40:59.260 20 years ago,

00:40:59.940 there was no way,

00:41:01.020 there was no chance

00:41:02.000 that I would be able

00:41:02.660 to buy a place

00:41:03.760 in that neighborhood.

00:41:04.200 And it's kind of sad

00:41:05.360 because Vancouver

00:41:05.880 has gone through this

00:41:06.820 like a long time ago,

00:41:08.220 you know,

00:41:08.600 15, 20, 25 years ago.

00:41:10.720 And I always thought

00:41:12.160 Vancouver was like an anomaly.

00:41:13.680 And then it's like,

00:41:14.560 it's almost like that phenomenon

00:41:15.900 that happened in Vancouver

00:41:17.500 caught up to the rest of the country

00:41:19.360 and it's now happening

00:41:20.120 in like so many other cities.

00:41:21.660 And so it does show,

00:41:22.660 I think that something's

00:41:23.260 fundamentally wrong.

00:41:24.060 And I think in Vancouver,

00:41:25.260 it was very clearly driven

00:41:26.800 by immigration,

00:41:28.180 by wealthy foreign buyers,

00:41:30.440 Chinese buyers coming in

00:41:31.540 and just liking that neighborhood

00:41:32.840 and buying out all the houses

00:41:34.220 and kind of like displacing

00:41:35.800 the people

00:41:37.040 who had lived there prior.

00:41:38.280 So there's definitely

00:41:39.040 structural issues.

00:41:40.460 When I say I'm annoyed

00:41:42.240 by this whole trend

00:41:43.020 because I just,

00:41:44.200 I just think it's like

00:41:44.880 a simplistic attitude

00:41:45.760 for conservatives to say like,

00:41:47.720 I can't afford a house

00:41:48.700 and it's the government's fault.

00:41:50.220 It's like,

00:41:51.180 it's like,

00:41:51.580 come on,

00:41:51.800 take some,

00:41:52.400 take some responsibility, man.

00:41:53.500 But I hear,

00:41:54.100 I hear your point.

00:41:54.840 Andrew, Harrison,

00:41:55.720 any final thoughts on this?

00:41:57.500 Yeah.

00:41:57.780 I mean,

00:41:58.000 one of the questions

00:41:58.740 that I asked at the beginning

00:41:59.720 of my show on this topic

00:42:01.300 was the people

00:42:02.880 who were responsible

00:42:04.300 for bringing in

00:42:05.260 all of these people

00:42:06.220 into our country

00:42:06.940 and flooding the country

00:42:08.100 and these pockets

00:42:09.140 of our population

00:42:10.060 where houses

00:42:11.320 are now unaffordable

00:42:12.320 knew full well

00:42:13.840 what was going to happen,

00:42:15.140 what the consequences

00:42:15.820 were going to be.

00:42:16.460 These are not dumb people.

00:42:17.800 They knew what was going to happen.

00:42:18.720 So it makes you wonder

00:42:19.580 if it wasn't obviously

00:42:21.180 done for Canadians,

00:42:22.580 even though the government's

00:42:23.880 responsibility

00:42:24.360 is to make sure

00:42:25.280 that Canadians

00:42:26.120 are taken care of first

00:42:27.880 and that they can hopefully

00:42:29.080 live in the cities

00:42:29.760 they grew up in.

00:42:30.400 So if it wasn't done

00:42:31.260 for Canadians,

00:42:31.880 who was it done for?

00:42:33.200 And I think that that

00:42:34.140 is a question

00:42:34.660 that needs to be asked.

00:42:35.880 It looks like it was done

00:42:36.720 for corporations

00:42:37.440 who could benefit

00:42:38.080 on a massive amount

00:42:39.440 of cheap available labor

00:42:40.880 and also for these colleges

00:42:42.300 to benefit from insane amounts

00:42:43.840 of students paying

00:42:45.080 three to four times

00:42:45.860 the tuition fees.

00:42:47.260 I think there is something

00:42:48.040 to be said about,

00:42:48.900 you know,

00:42:49.360 people having to be realistic

00:42:50.540 and people having to be

00:42:51.540 less picky about location.

00:42:52.900 But the reality is

00:42:53.980 I don't think it's fair

00:42:55.240 to say to Canadians

00:42:56.180 who are now looking

00:42:57.240 at this country

00:42:58.000 and realizing

00:42:58.980 that the life

00:42:59.620 that they were expecting

00:43:00.880 when they were very young

00:43:01.740 that's totally out of reach

00:43:03.160 is their fault

00:43:04.660 and it's not the fault

00:43:05.620 of people who made

00:43:06.900 these decisions

00:43:07.340 in the first place.

00:43:08.600 I think there's a lot

00:43:09.780 of frustration

00:43:12.080 and anger

00:43:12.920 that is coming

00:43:14.320 from this situation

00:43:15.360 that the government

00:43:16.180 is not paying attention to.

00:43:18.080 I think the opposition

00:43:18.700 doesn't want to accept

00:43:19.780 the kind of anger

00:43:20.780 that's actually coming

00:43:21.660 from young people

00:43:22.320 in this country.

00:43:23.160 But it is there

00:43:24.080 and it's growing

00:43:24.960 and this is exactly why.

00:43:27.060 Well, Harrison,

00:43:28.340 you pointed this out

00:43:29.020 because Pierre Paglia

00:43:30.380 put out a really informative,

00:43:31.780 great video

00:43:32.220 about the housing problem

00:43:33.680 in Canada.

00:43:34.080 I think he made a lot

00:43:35.320 of really,

00:43:36.000 really strong points

00:43:36.940 in that video.

00:43:37.920 But there was one

00:43:38.540 sort of like elephant

00:43:39.480 in the room

00:43:40.000 that he just refused

00:43:40.720 to acknowledge,

00:43:41.300 which is immigration.

00:43:41.860 I don't think he mentioned it once.

00:43:43.400 And you made a point

00:43:44.660 on your show

00:43:45.080 of going through

00:43:45.440 the comment section.

00:43:46.300 Like, people notice,

00:43:47.820 people know

00:43:48.400 that there is this problem

00:43:50.300 when it comes

00:43:50.960 to mass immigration.

00:43:52.580 Canada has the highest

00:43:53.340 immigration levels,

00:43:54.140 I think in the world,

00:43:55.840 definitely in the G7.

00:43:57.820 And that is having an impact

00:43:59.240 and you got to talk about it.

00:44:00.680 You have to find a way

00:44:01.600 to talk about it

00:44:02.320 because it's an issue

00:44:03.180 that's important.

00:44:04.960 Andrew, I'll give

00:44:05.380 the last word to you.

00:44:06.920 No, I don't really have one.

00:44:08.060 I mean, I asked Pierre Paglia

00:44:09.620 when I did my year-end interview

00:44:10.920 with him about that

00:44:11.860 and he did admit,

00:44:13.000 yes, immigration,

00:44:14.100 it's just raw numbers,

00:44:15.300 has an effect,

00:44:15.940 but still wouldn't go

00:44:18.120 to the point

00:44:18.720 of giving that number

00:44:19.880 of how many is enough,

00:44:22.660 of what the system

00:44:23.580 can sustain.

00:44:24.480 So, where he left it

00:44:26.060 was saying that,

00:44:26.920 yes, we'll tie immigration

00:44:28.240 to housing.

00:44:29.360 So, if you read

00:44:30.300 between the lines,

00:44:31.220 he is saying, yes,

00:44:32.180 I mean, theoretically,

00:44:32.980 we could reduce that number,

00:44:34.400 but he still,

00:44:35.580 for reasons we've all

00:44:36.460 talked about

00:44:36.860 on our respective shows,

00:44:37.760 doesn't want to come out

00:44:38.460 and say that

00:44:39.060 in black and white terms.

00:44:40.760 Okay, I said last word to you,

00:44:42.260 but I just want to make

00:44:43.100 one point of that

00:44:43.880 because it made me think

00:44:45.000 of your interview

00:44:45.500 and one of the things

00:44:46.120 that I didn't like

00:44:46.820 about what Pollyov did

00:44:47.640 was that it was a purely

00:44:48.980 economic, math-based equation.

00:44:50.900 Like, to him,

00:44:51.340 it was just about the math

00:44:52.240 and nothing else.

00:44:53.700 And it's like,

00:44:54.400 at some point,

00:44:55.180 you have to recognize

00:44:55.980 that there is

00:44:56.500 a deeper cultural issue here

00:44:59.200 that many Canadians

00:45:00.800 are concerned with,

00:45:01.840 like, whether people

00:45:02.880 are being integrated,

00:45:03.820 whether it's a good idea

00:45:04.600 for our communities,

00:45:05.380 whether this is having

00:45:05.980 a good effect

00:45:06.620 on things like

00:45:07.620 cost of living,

00:45:08.300 how it's influencing

00:45:09.100 people in your generation,

00:45:10.800 Harrison,

00:45:11.320 and people just coming

00:45:12.100 out of school

00:45:12.560 and people just trying to,

00:45:13.860 like, there are more

00:45:15.580 broad questions

00:45:17.320 that need to be answered

00:45:18.140 and, I mean,

00:45:19.880 maybe libertarians

00:45:21.120 like these kind of answers,

00:45:22.160 but when he just said

00:45:22.760 it was, like,

00:45:23.180 purely numbers,

00:45:24.100 it was just 100% on math

00:45:25.660 and nothing else,

00:45:26.980 my heart sank a little bit.

00:45:28.640 I wasn't.

00:45:30.180 For the last time,

00:45:31.400 Candice,

00:45:31.720 libertarians can care

00:45:32.860 about values, too.

00:45:35.060 Every time,

00:45:36.220 you're just, like,

00:45:36.620 staring daggers

00:45:37.340 into my soul

00:45:37.980 when you crap

00:45:38.620 on libertarians.

00:45:40.360 You know,

00:45:40.960 I consider myself

00:45:42.140 libertarian for a long time.

00:45:43.660 And when it comes

00:45:44.740 to government spending,

00:45:45.540 a lot of things

00:45:46.180 are libertarian still,

00:45:47.260 but I do think

00:45:48.600 these deeper values

00:45:49.960 questions matter,

00:45:50.820 Andrew.

00:45:51.140 They matter.

00:45:52.100 All right.

00:45:52.580 All right.

00:45:52.900 I think we'll cut it off there.

00:45:53.900 Thanks so much,

00:45:54.600 everyone,

00:45:54.980 for tuning in.

00:45:55.620 And just as a reminder,

00:45:56.680 remember that the show

00:45:57.440 is called Off the Record,

00:45:58.220 so everything you just heard

00:45:59.080 was Off the Record.

00:46:06.320 Oh,

00:46:06.680 we didn't talk about

00:46:07.360 the guy that wanted me

00:46:08.900 to do more rap dancing,

00:46:10.200 so we'll have to bring back

00:46:11.440 the dance moves

00:46:12.040 in the next show.

00:46:12.660 I was going to say,

00:46:13.000 Andrew,

00:46:13.300 you ditched the wine

00:46:14.180 for, what,

00:46:14.720 is that a coffee?

00:46:16.100 Yeah,

00:46:16.580 I was running behind

00:46:17.760 this morning,

00:46:18.240 so I just,

00:46:19.020 I should have put some

00:46:19.560 Baileys in it

00:46:20.140 just to keep on brand.

00:46:22.820 Yeah,

00:46:23.340 yeah.

00:46:24.620 Well,

00:46:24.960 I was like,

00:46:25.420 you know,

00:46:25.560 let's keep it to 45 minutes

00:46:26.700 and so I totally

00:46:27.960 forgot about the comments.

00:46:28.920 Well,

00:46:29.060 I promise we'll do comments

00:46:30.200 next week.

00:46:30.860 That's okay.

00:46:31.520 That's okay.

00:46:32.020 They don't know,

00:46:32.760 well,

00:46:32.940 unless this is in the banter reel,

00:46:34.300 then they'll know,

00:46:34.860 but other than that,

00:46:35.860 they didn't know.

00:46:37.120 Okay.

00:46:38.000 Right on.

00:46:38.540 Yeah,

00:46:38.740 I think we should keep it

00:46:39.620 in the banter reel.

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