Juno News - August 26, 2025


MALCOLM： Elbows up was ALWAYS a lie


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00:00:00.000 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us
00:00:06.380 folks. This episode today is brought to you by Unsmoke, but more on them a little later. So I
00:00:11.760 am back in the studio back after a week away. I was chatting with my producer. He asked me if I
00:00:16.820 went anywhere or did anything for the week off and I didn't. I just basically cleaned my house.
00:00:22.060 I spent the entire week cleaning out all of my closets and my kitchen and everything. And for
00:00:27.200 everyone out there who has kids, you know how much stuff you can accumulate. I've got four kids and
00:00:32.800 we just accumulate a lot of stuff. So it's good to every now and then go through and get rid of a lot
00:00:38.060 of it. Okay, folks, I want to get into the meat of the episode today, which is that Mark Carney has
00:00:44.740 put his elbows down. And let me just tell you that the elbows up movement, it was always a liberal
00:00:51.040 political campaign slogan. It was a slogan. It was nothing more. The media created it. The liberal
00:00:56.580 party created it. Many people in the country thought that it was some kind of a universal
00:01:00.700 pan-Canadian elbows up that we were all in it together. It wasn't. It was always a lie. It was
00:01:05.720 always just about politics. And now we have it confirmed. So on Friday, Mark Carney, prime minister
00:01:11.360 announced that, yeah, those retaliatory tariffs, they're gone. We are removing them and we are
00:01:17.060 going back to basically what we should have been doing all along, which is trying to negotiate in
00:01:20.980 good faith without slapping tariffs onto each other. So here is Mark Carney speaking in Ottawa
00:01:25.560 saying that Canada already has the best deal with the United States. And so we just didn't
00:01:30.260 need the tariffs anymore. Let's play the clip. Canada currently has the best trade deal with
00:01:37.960 the United States. It's important. It's vital. We do everything we can to preserve this unique
00:01:43.840 advantage for Canadian workers, Canadian businesses. I'm announcing today that the Canadian government
00:01:49.180 will now match, we will now match the United States by removing all of Canada's tariffs on
00:01:56.540 U.S. goods specifically covered under KUSMA. So we're removing the tariffs that we should
00:02:02.700 have removed a long time ago. We're matching the United States, which means that they didn't have
00:02:06.020 tariffs. So they're not really retaliatory tariffs, are they? If the Americans didn't have them on goods
00:02:11.560 covered under NAFTA or USMCA or whatever you want to call it. But the idea here is that,
00:02:18.020 and you know this, the audience knows this, a tariff, when they talk about tariffs on the
00:02:22.100 Americans, what that really means is a tax on Canadians. Canadians pay the tax. Americans don't
00:02:28.420 pay the tax, Canadians do. When the U.S., when U.S. companies and Americans export things out of the
00:02:34.360 United States and we import them here in Canada, we pay the taxes on that. So it's a win for Canada
00:02:40.440 that we no longer have to play this silly political game where, you know, partisan actors,
00:02:45.600 politicians wanting to win elections make us pay a tax and make us cheer about it and make it seem
00:02:50.940 like somehow it's patriotic and our duty to have these tariffs, which is really just a tax that we
00:02:55.680 pay. So I guess we could be happy that that is over, but the politics of it is just despicable.
00:03:01.540 Now, speaking in the Oval Office, President Trump expressed his satisfaction with Carney's decision.
00:03:06.140 Of course he's satisfied. Of course he's happy because he's winning. He's winning this negotiation,
00:03:10.580 and you can see it all over his face. Here he is saying that he likes Carney quite a bit. Let's play
00:03:15.340 that clip. Canada is taking away some retaliatory tariffs. He's removing his tariffs. He's removing
00:03:22.600 his retaliatory tariffs, which I thought was nice. And we're going to have another call soon. Yeah,
00:03:26.900 we had a very good call. You're getting closer towards the agreement on trade? I like him. We want
00:03:31.280 to be very good to Canada. I like Carney a lot. I think he's a good person. And we had a very good
00:03:38.120 talk yesterday. So I think it'll be good. Again, folks, this should be good, right? Canada and the
00:03:44.320 United States should be on the same team. We should be partners. We're friends. We're allies. We're
00:03:47.940 neighbors. Everything about it should be positive. If Trump wants to re-industrialize his country and
00:03:53.540 reinvigorate the working class, fantastic. Sign Canada up to let's do it side by side in partnership.
00:03:59.300 The reason that this is so incredibly frustrating is because we just want an entire election campaign
00:04:05.060 based on a total lie, based on pure propaganda, a slogan that never really made sense, propagated
00:04:11.120 by a bought and paid for media. It is just enough to make you go crazy. This is the state of our
00:04:17.180 country. This is our country. We gave it away to the liberals, again, based on a pure lie. Here is
00:04:22.800 conservative leader Pierre Polyev saying the true things that Mark Carney cave, that he made a series
00:04:29.860 of concessions, that he got nothing in return. Let's play that clip. I was happy to hear that he
00:04:36.240 got the president on the phone. I know that Mr. Carney has been trying to do that now for about a month
00:04:40.880 and today the president accepted his call and the prime minister took the opportunity to make
00:04:47.600 a series of very generous concessions to President Trump. And I was expecting that when the call was
00:04:56.220 reported, that we'd find that President Trump had given us something in return, that Mr. Carney being
00:05:01.340 the negotiator he promised he would be, that he would get something after giving something.
00:05:08.720 But not so. Today we learn that it has been yet another capitulation and climb down by Mark Carney.
00:05:17.860 His elbows have mysteriously gone missing.
00:05:21.060 Paul, you have saying very many, many, many true things here. And folks, let's just get past one
00:05:28.840 thing, okay? The whole elbows up thing, it's a hockey reference, right? When you're playing hockey,
00:05:33.440 you put your elbows up, elbows up in the corners like this, right? So to all the liberals that were
00:05:37.200 walking around with their elbows up like that, that never made any sense. You're just showing that
00:05:40.980 you don't even understand the metaphor. It never made any sense. And at least now we can put it to bed
00:05:46.280 and move past and move away from the elbows up nonsense. Because again, if you voted for Mark
00:05:52.120 Carney and the liberals based on elbows up, based on the idea that he was going to fight Trump,
00:05:56.460 that he was going to negotiate a deal, that he was going to get something for Canadians and that he
00:06:02.040 was going to punish the Americans. Well, that didn't happen. That was never going to happen.
00:06:06.180 It was never a line. Let me just remind folks, I know you in the audience, you know, you were here
00:06:10.280 for it. You never fell for the nonsense, but the legacy media did. And the people who watch legacy media,
00:06:15.740 the people who watch CBC, CTV, Global News, everybody, they were all promoting this idea
00:06:21.040 that Trump, that Carney was going to play, that he was going to win. He was going to, he was playing
00:06:26.360 chess and that he was going to win and that he was going to get something in return.
00:06:30.800 Junos called it, right? From the beginning. This is back in March, March 28th. We put out a mini
00:06:36.880 documentary about Carney and the many, many lies he told. And the headline here, Eurasia Group
00:06:42.640 President admits that Mark Carney will quietly fold to the Americans after the election. So yes,
00:06:47.280 we dug up a blog post written by Ian Bremmer, the head of the Eurasia Group. For those who don't know,
00:06:52.860 Eurasia Group is this sort of shadowy cabal consulting group led by Ian Bremmer. He employs
00:06:59.360 Daryl Butts, Justin Trudeau's former advisor and best friend. He employs Mark Carney's wife.
00:07:04.900 Also, he employs Evan Solomon, who is a liberal MP. They all work for this group. Ian Bremmer wrote,
00:07:11.720 I expect Ottawa will quietly fold shortly after the vote to ensure ongoing relations with the U.S.
00:07:18.000 remain functional. Okay? So they said the quiet part out loud. They spilled the beans. They told us
00:07:23.320 in the beginning that it was all a lie. It wasn't real. It wasn't true. There was no such thing as
00:07:28.720 elbows up. We're going to quietly fold to the Americans once the election is over. Well, here we
00:07:33.160 are. End of summer. Quiet news days. Not a lot of people are paying attention to what's happening.
00:07:38.140 And Friday afternoon, lo and behold, quietly fold. Carney quietly folded, just as Juneau News
00:07:44.420 predicted, just as Juneau News reported, just as Ian Bremmer told us seven months ago that this
00:07:49.520 was going to happen. And it happened. Folks, again, the idea that retaliatory tariffs are gone
00:07:55.220 isn't a bad thing. It's actually a good thing. I don't want Canadians paying these taxes. It's just
00:08:00.640 that we were duped. The legacy media and the Liberal Party work hand in glove, as they always do,
00:08:05.880 to promote pure propaganda. And Canadians are worse for it. Well, the Juneau News audience
00:08:12.600 knows better. So we did a poll over the weekend, elbows up or elbows down. We asked our readers
00:08:18.560 whether they agree with Mark Carney's decision to drop the retaliatory tariffs. 15% said, yes,
00:08:24.340 it was a good idea to drop the tariffs on the United States. 8% said, no, we should keep those
00:08:29.600 tariffs. I guess that's the elbows up crowd. And 77%, so the overwhelming majority of you agree
00:08:35.500 with me on this one, that it was a good move, but Mark Carney is still a hypocrite. All right,
00:08:40.860 folks, happy to introduce today's guest, Wyatt Claypool, who is a political commentator and
00:08:45.580 founder of the National Telegraph. Always great to have you on the program. Wyatt, welcome. What
00:08:50.780 did you make of Mark Carney's Friday afternoon surprise? Well, it wasn't as surprising to me
00:08:56.660 just because we've actually seen this play out twice now. He got in on the elbows up agenda,
00:09:02.320 as you've been talking about. And then he went a little softer when he came to the Oval Office and
00:09:08.580 talked with Donald Trump face to face, which you would assume would be the time you would drop your
00:09:14.380 own retaliatory tariffs and then you'd want to make a deal. And we didn't. And then right after we had
00:09:21.180 that meeting, like a couple of weeks later, we had the digital services tax issue where we tried to
00:09:26.700 implement what was effectively a new tariff on U.S. big tech companies that obviously caused the
00:09:35.920 American negotiators to walk away from the table because even the Biden administration had been
00:09:39.820 telling us not to do that. We had to rescind that to get them to come back to the table. And then we
00:09:44.620 failed to negotiate. Like the readouts from people like Howard Lutnick and President Trump himself,
00:09:50.260 when they were talking about the negotiations with Canada, it sounded like we were just in the room and
00:09:55.340 saying, hey, we're like PB&J, we are better together. And that's basically our negotiating
00:10:00.580 standpoint that we should just get along. We didn't put anything on the table. We didn't even
00:10:04.980 make any demands or threats. We made we did nothing because even when Trump was asked, he said,
00:10:09.880 what negotiations? We're not talking about anything. And and then now what we're doing,
00:10:15.540 and this is why somehow Carney keeps triangulating himself, the worst position on every issue.
00:10:21.700 He's now gotten rid of the retaliatory tariffs just to get back to the table. We keep having
00:10:27.600 to make concessions just to make come back to the table. So it's the worst way of having to give
00:10:32.840 something up. It's not even to get something done. It's just for paying the price of admission.
00:10:38.160 Well, it's just it's pure posturing, right? Like even the digital sales tax, again, it's this idea
00:10:43.680 that, oh, make the big American companies pay. It's like, no, those are going to be taxes on Canadians.
00:10:48.480 It'll be Canadians paying those taxes for the services that they use in Canada, like Netflix.
00:10:54.260 Right. And and the whole idea behind these tariffs was an election slogan. Like it's not like it's a
00:11:01.220 smart group of negotiators thinking purely in regard to how do we reindustrialize Canada? How do we create
00:11:07.880 more working class and middle class jobs? How do we reinvigorate our economy? It's basically, well,
00:11:14.320 we have to win an election. And so how can we reverse engineer everything into a political war?
00:11:20.680 We'll use the media. We'll create this narrative. We'll push pure propaganda. And as long as we win
00:11:27.320 the election, we're happy they win the election. And now they just have to basically walk it all
00:11:31.100 back. I liked how Polyev mentioned that it took a month to get Trump on the phone. Right. So it's like
00:11:38.860 to your point that there's no negotiations. Right. Like Dominic LeBlanc went to Washington,
00:11:43.720 D.C. and I don't know who he met with. Maybe he met with the, you know, the Canadian ambassador
00:11:50.860 or something. But like there was no one there to meet him. They were all in Europe negotiating their
00:11:55.340 own different agreements. So it shows you what a low priority Canada is. What do you think?
00:12:00.680 Well, and the thing that we ended up having to with the entire, with the phone call, it was reported
00:12:08.260 before Carney came out and said, we're going to pull off their retaliatory tariffs. This wasn't a
00:12:13.000 scheduled call. It wasn't something that both sides wanted. We effectively had to beg our way into
00:12:18.860 getting a phone call with them. And again, we, we, all we really did was again, get back to the
00:12:24.600 negotiating table. And you're right about Europe. Trump and the American negotiators have actually
00:12:30.100 been getting really good deals where they are having guaranteed like buys of American products
00:12:36.440 that the Europeans and you know, the United Kingdom are going to buy American oil and gas products
00:12:42.600 to the tune of like 780 billion over the next few years. And what Canada has been doing is we show up
00:12:49.520 to Europe and we just vaguely make deals about how we should maybe try and trade more. So at the start
00:12:56.580 of this trade situation, this crisis, what happened is that like our exports to the United States have
00:13:03.760 dropped 12%, but our exports to Europe or to elsewhere have only gone up 14%. But considering
00:13:10.880 that, that other, that, that non-US trade only represented 20% of our exports means that we've
00:13:17.720 only done ourselves damage through this. And it shows you're in a toxic political environment.
00:13:22.740 When during an election, people are voting for elbows up when it has nothing to do with their
00:13:27.880 own material wellbeing, has nothing to do with people who are not doing so well as material
00:13:32.760 wellbeing. It's helping literally nobody, but you get to feel good when you put your ballot in the
00:13:38.400 ballot box saying that you're sticking it to Donald Trump, who frankly is running the more powerful
00:13:43.940 economy. And we're not going to be able to trip them up before we end up going down in flames.
00:13:48.200 Well, and it's so ironic, right? Why? Because the reason that Trump is saying complimentary
00:13:53.320 things about Mark Carney is because Mark Carney is groveling and kissing up and kissing the ring.
00:13:59.480 Like he's, he's going out of his way to say really, really, really nice things about Donald Trump.
00:14:05.720 And yet he got elected because Canadians really, really, really don't like Donald Trump. Right.
00:14:10.520 And so here he is capitulating and flattering him and saying that he's a transitional leader and he's
00:14:17.400 this great thinker and all this stuff, even though his liberal base, they literally voted for the
00:14:23.160 exact opposite of it. Okay. I want to get to another liberal lie, which is that we're going to cap our
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00:15:13.880 unsmoke.ca to learn more about this campaign. Okay. So, Wyatt, we learned on Monday that the liberal
00:15:22.600 immigration numbers are worse than you thought. So remember last year when Justin Trudeau kind of
00:15:28.120 admitted that they totally overshot, that the temporary foreign program was out of control. He said that
00:15:33.480 there were corporations taking advantage of loopholes and that they were going to cap the program. So they
00:15:37.480 announced these caps. Well, the numbers came out. They proposed a cap of 82,000 on temporary foreign
00:15:43.000 workers. In the first six months of this year, they've issued 105. Okay. You cap it at 82. You
00:15:50.120 issue 105 in the first six months. That's not really a cap. Same with the International Mobility Program.
00:15:55.000 It was supposed to be capped at 285 and they've already let in 302,000 people in the first six months
00:16:00.920 of 2025. So Pierre Polyev rightly called out the liberals for overshooting their own immigration
00:16:09.000 targets. What an absolute mess, right? Like they can't even, they can't even cap immigration numbers,
00:16:14.760 right? What do you think, Wyatt? Well, and they're trying to be sneaky by instead of just
00:16:19.480 only bringing more people in, they're also giving out generous amounts of visa extensions
00:16:25.240 so that you may have come in as a temporary foreign worker three or four years ago and you're supposed to
00:16:30.200 leave. But now you get to be here for six years. And now I would consider that to be a new temporary
00:16:36.520 foreign worker because the point of the program is temporary, that you are going to be here for a
00:16:42.600 few years. You make some money, you fill in the gap in the economy, and then you go home. We're not even
00:16:48.200 using the TFW program to fill in gaps in the economy. We're basically just taking away jobs from young
00:16:53.320 Canadians. But regardless, you were supposed to do that for a bit and then leave. But now it's going to be
00:17:00.040 perpetual foreign worker programs where you will never actually have to leave the country because
00:17:05.240 there is always another renewal around the corner. Well, and I mean, so the thing that the
00:17:10.280 Conservatives point out, rightly so, like they sound really good on immigration lately. I wish they
00:17:14.520 took this hard-noted approach during the election campaign. But they basically wrote in their release
00:17:20.520 yesterday that Mark Carney promised to fix immigration, but he's made it worse. He supports
00:17:26.520 liberal, out of control, liberal immigration policies that have delivered a triple header crisis
00:17:31.400 in housing, health care, and youth unemployment, right? And so it's like these things aren't going
00:17:38.680 to just fix themselves. When you have millions and millions of people who have just come to the country
00:17:43.560 and there's nowhere to house them and our health care queues are already of control. We did an episode
00:17:48.440 last week with Colin Craig, who has an excellent documentary about how we could potentially fix
00:17:52.920 Canada's system by looking at what Japan does. And then you also have this youth unemployment
00:17:57.640 number. It almost seems the Liberals have given up on these three issues. They don't even care
00:18:02.440 anymore. And I think that the housing one is really tricky to fix. But the youth unemployment
00:18:06.760 one, it's like the numbers are really bad. Young Canadians aren't working. They haven't been this
00:18:11.720 high, that youth unemployment rate hasn't been this high since the 90s. And I never hear Liberals
00:18:15.960 talking about. I don't think it's a priority at all. What do you think? Well, the Liberals have
00:18:20.040 kind of put themselves in a bit of between a rock and a hard place when it comes to their base that
00:18:26.200 they're relying on for votes. This is also why they don't really want to solve the housing crisis,
00:18:31.640 because frankly, the base of the Liberal Party is usually more upper middle class, usually a little
00:18:39.640 bit older. And so you have a base full of people who already own their own homes, who live in the
00:18:44.600 nicer part of town, who don't actually care about crime as much because, well, they don't live in
00:18:49.400 that area. And then with the TFW issue with immigration in general, the thing is that the
00:18:56.040 Liberals rely on a lot of votes where they have big businesses who want the TFW program in order to
00:19:03.800 basically, you know, sustain their company with lower wage workers, as well as they tend to do really
00:19:10.520 well, where there is a lot of immigration lawyers and scammers. And this becomes a part of the economy
00:19:16.920 with fake universities and, you know, fake front groups in order to be able to, you know, generate
00:19:22.680 the effectively what is becoming a human smuggling business. But the Liberals have staked out a very
00:19:28.120 kind of weak coalition. And it's good that the Conservatives are actually not just saying we need
00:19:32.840 it lower because that was the you're right. The Conservatives had a very weak position in the last
00:19:38.120 election. If the Liberals are saying 400,000 and you're saying 250,000, strictly having one less
00:19:45.000 than what the Liberals are doing is better than the Liberals. But it has to be much better to solve
00:19:49.800 the problem, because if we are driving towards a cliff at 100 kilometers an hour, I don't care if
00:19:55.320 we're just ratcheting the speed back to 60. I'd rather reverse the car. And that's what Polyev is doing
00:20:01.000 with the net negative migration promise.
00:20:03.120 Well, it's interesting because those issues, right, housing, health care and youth unemployment,
00:20:07.920 they're all economic issues. Right. And then Conservatives like to stay in the economic
00:20:11.280 lane because it's easier. But there's also a huge kind of elephant in the room when it comes to
00:20:15.680 immigration, which is social cohesion and integration. And it's just not happening. And so
00:20:20.960 there's a lot of sort of siloing off of immigrant groups. Like you drive around Toronto and it's like,
00:20:27.280 you know, one pocket will be like super waspy and kind of like Canada, like was probably in the 1970s
00:20:32.880 and 80s. And then you drive across one major intersection. And all of a sudden you feel
00:20:37.120 like you're in like in India or in China or in Korea, like it's very, very siloed and balkanized.
00:20:44.560 And there are a lot of social issues that come from that. Interestingly, the Conservatives are starting
00:20:50.480 to talk a little bit about the crime aspect that comes along with immigration. They sent out a news
00:20:57.040 released just five minutes ago. Immigration status is not a get out of jail free card. And so
00:21:03.360 they're talking about the justice system and that story of a non-citizen who got convicted of a
00:21:08.800 violent assault. But then basically the judge let them off so that they wouldn't get, they let them
00:21:14.240 off with a lighter penalty so that they wouldn't get deported. It's all kind of tied together in this
00:21:19.680 mess that the Liberals have created. What do you think, Wyatt?
00:21:22.640 Well, frankly, I don't think the judge had to be too worried. Even if they threw the book at them,
00:21:26.960 I don't think that the Canadian government would be competent enough to actually deport them.
00:21:31.840 There are potentially hundreds of thousands of people who have overstayed visas who are now in
00:21:36.800 Canada illegally, and we don't get rid of them either. But that is a great move. The thing is that
00:21:42.800 the Conservatives' path to winning an election really is being tough on immigration,
00:21:48.240 being tough on crime, and then substantially lowering taxes. Not like the last election, not
00:21:53.600 again, reducing taxes under $50,000, a little more than the Liberals, like a big tax cut that
00:21:58.880 allows people to actually imagine how their lives would be substantially better once you implemented
00:22:04.000 it. But on this crime and justice issue, it just ends up touching on so many areas of Canadian life
00:22:10.240 when it goes into both the cultural aspect that we're, for some reason, almost allowing certain
00:22:16.480 communities to be more criminal, that it's going to then soak into that particular community if
00:22:24.320 people just have the idea that you get a lighter sentence. It's what happens in the United Kingdom
00:22:30.160 with Pakistani gangs, is that it basically creates its own culture that you can do whatever you want
00:22:36.320 if you're a Pakistani man, because the, you know, the law won't actually come after you.
00:22:40.480 Well, yeah, we've created a two-tier justice system where Canadians are the ones that get
00:22:44.560 the harsher sentences and the harsher penalties and treatments. It's unbelievable. Well, some good news,
00:22:49.600 Wyatt, which is that the Conservatives have retaken the lead according to the latest Abacus data polling.
00:22:56.080 Abacus is one of the best, if not the best, pollsters in the country, and according to a newly released poll,
00:23:02.000 shows that Pierre Polyev has taken a slim lead over the Liberals, 41 to 39. If you look at the graph of
00:23:08.400 committed vote intention, this is so, this is so disappointing and so sad, Wyatt. But you can see
00:23:12.960 how the Conservatives had the lead in the polls going back to 2024. And, you know, their lead ranged
00:23:18.880 anywhere from 41% up to 47%, I think, at the height. And then right around the time that the election
00:23:25.280 campaign started, Mark Carney was swapped in, the propaganda media did their thing. And for,
00:23:31.920 oh, I don't know, a couple of months here, you had Conservatives and Liberals neck and neck.
00:23:37.600 And then now you finally have the Conservatives retaking and the Libs down to 39. It's so unbelievable.
00:23:43.760 But it seems like perhaps Canadians are getting a reality call that really the biggest issue in the
00:23:50.000 country isn't President Trump. It's actually cost of living and crime and all these other things that
00:23:54.880 we've been talking about. What do you think? Well, the Liberals started off after the election.
00:23:59.680 Naturally, governments tend to poll better right after they're elected, because if you ask people,
00:24:04.240 who do you think should be in office right now? They're gonna be like, well, I guess the guys who
00:24:07.680 just won should be the ones in office. That's why I actually preferred prime minister polling
00:24:11.600 does not really work this soon after an election, because like, you're like, who do you want to be the
00:24:15.440 prime minister? Like, well, I might be a Conservative, but I'd hope the person who won the most seats is
00:24:20.000 going to be the prime minister. But what we what this has been the result of the Conservatives now
00:24:25.440 leading the Liberals by two points is just a cavalcade of Liberal policy failures of just stupid
00:24:32.560 imagistic problems, you know, recognizing a Palestinian terror state, the DST climb down on
00:24:39.040 the digital services tax. You have the Eric and the fiasco. And by the way, this poll was actually
00:24:44.160 conducted started being conducted a couple days before the Eric and the fiasco. So the window of the
00:24:49.840 poll didn't even fully capture how mad a lot of, you know, NDP Liberal switch voters got at them,
00:24:55.280 and how a lot of people are probably going to go back to the NDP. But the I think that Carney has
00:25:01.040 just had so many small to medium sized blunders that it's that for a lot of people who were willing
00:25:07.600 to give them a chance, they're now pulling back. They may not even be voting Conservative,
00:25:12.000 because the Conservatives in Abacus's last poll were at 40 and now they're at 41, whereas the Liberals
00:25:17.280 were at 43 and now they're at 39. So we've had a five point swing. Most of the swing seems to have
00:25:23.760 just gone with a bunch of people becoming undecided, not really knowing what they think about Carney
00:25:28.400 anymore. Interesting. And you can see back to the graph here is just that the NDP has still plummeted
00:25:36.000 and have like there's no there's no dead cat bounce here. Like they are down and they're staying down.
00:25:40.640 I know they don't have a leader, but I find it hard to even imagine the prospect of a strong NDP right
00:25:45.840 now because the left is just so lost, right? They're like out in the wilderness. The issues
00:25:50.240 that they prioritize are so different than the ones that take that prioritize for Canadians. I want to
00:25:56.000 talk about the issues. So Abacus asked Canadians who they trust most on the issues. This is really
00:26:01.280 interesting. Healthcare majority or plurality, I should say, Conservative. So 30% Conservative,
00:26:07.040 28% Liberal. Rising cost of Liberal, rising cost of living, thanks to the Liberals. 39% say Conservative,
00:26:13.920 only 27% for the Liberals. Housing affordability, Conservatives went on that issue. Crime and public
00:26:19.120 safety, obviously 61% say Conservatives on that one. The economy, Conservatives as well dominate
00:26:25.520 for 45%. Interestingly, climate change, the Libs still have the advantage there, but I hate to break
00:26:32.000 it to you. No one really cares about climate change right now. That's sort of a luxury issue. And when you
00:26:36.800 can't afford anything and people are breaking into your house, you don't have the luxury to care about
00:26:41.520 a hypothetical, theoretical change in the climate. The threat posed by Russia and China, Liberals still
00:26:47.440 hold the lead on that issue. Inequality and poverty, people who put that first still go to the NDP.
00:26:55.040 Indigenous reconciliation, Liberals went on that issue. But immigration, Chinese election interference,
00:27:00.960 and job security and unemployment Conservatives went on all of that. The only other issue that the
00:27:05.520 Liberals still went on, again, is Donald Trump and his administration. I don't know why, because as we
00:27:10.480 talked about off the top, that was all nonsense. But there is something very key about the Donald
00:27:17.520 Trump answer in this poll. If you go back to June 29th, that Abacus data poll, and this was still not
00:27:24.320 its highest watermark, but we had 48% of Canadians putting that in their top three issues. And in not
00:27:30.880 that long of a time, it's now dropped down to 38%. So we've had it dropped by 8% over just two months.
00:27:38.160 And so what we're probably going to end up seeing by the time the fall session ends up hitting,
00:27:43.600 especially as sort of the trade issue develops, that Carney is signaling that Trump is not a threat
00:27:50.320 to him, and actually our deal with the United States is the best in the world. And so what we're
00:27:55.360 going to have is that the Liberals' biggest issue is going to start falling down the ranks, because
00:28:00.880 there was the polling on who do you trust more on it, and then there's also how many people care.
00:28:05.520 And right now, the top issues that people care about are all the ones that end up favoring the
00:28:10.400 Conservatives. There is, you know, the cost of living, and then there's Trump, and then there's
00:28:14.960 the economy, and then there is, you know, crime. Healthcare is kind of a bit of a split issue between
00:28:19.920 the Liberals and the NDP. But as you go down, it takes a while for you to find a second issue for
00:28:24.960 the Liberals after Donald Trump, and they can't play that card again. They've already played it,
00:28:29.440 and now they've said that actually it's great to work with the United States. Exactly. They've totally
00:28:34.000 caved, and we should have known better because we were saying so all along. Wyatt Claypool,
00:28:39.120 thanks so much for joining us. I always appreciate your time and your insights.
00:28:42.400 Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.
00:28:44.000 All right, folks. That's a lot of time we have for today. We'll be back again tomorrow with all
00:28:46.400 the news. I'm Candice Malcolm. This is Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you, and God bless.