Juno News - Mark Carney CAUGHT lying

00:00:00 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us.

00:00:11 Hope everyone had a wonderful long weekend. I said on the show yesterday that it was family

00:00:16 day in Ontario and Alberta. One of the viewers let me know that they also celebrate it in British

00:00:22 Columbia, which I am embarrassed to say I didn't know. I'm from British Columbia, but it was

00:00:26 definitely not a thing when I was growing up. So hope everyone had a wonderful long weekend.

00:00:30 We've got a lot of news to get to today. I want to really get in to Mark Carney because the more

00:00:35 that we see from Mr. Carney, the more that we get to know him as a personality, as a leader,

00:00:40 the more things start to fall apart, the more his claims don't add up. We're starting to see

00:00:45 many contradictions, the two sides of Mark Carney. We have bait and switches and sleight of hands to

00:00:52 try to confuse you, to try to sort of speak over your head, to make you think that he's going to

00:00:57 do good things for the country, that he's going to balance the budget, that he's going to get

00:01:00 pipeline built. But then at the same time, he's basically saying the exact opposite. So we are

00:01:04 going to go through it all and show you the real side of Mark Carney. My guest on the show today

00:01:10 is Chris Sims, the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. She is a longtime

00:01:16 journalist, former host of CFRA 580 Radio. And back in the day, we worked together at the Sun

00:01:22 News Network. Chris, thank you so much for joining the show. Great to be with you. Thanks, Candice.

00:01:27 You were the one that pointed out to me that we launched Juno News on the 10-year anniversary of

00:01:32 the end of Sun News. You were there from the very beginning of Sun, right till the very end. I know

00:01:37 it was very sort of bittersweet when that ended. But I think, you know, given what is happening in

00:01:44 the Canadian media landscape. Like there's so many independent voices. There's so many thriving

00:01:48 journalists who are seeking to tell the other side of the story, even though it was, you know,

00:01:53 we've been through some hard times as conservatives, independent conservative journalists or just

00:01:58 independent journalists. I think that the situation today is much better. What do you think?

00:02:03 It is. It was really hard that day. And I did think that you had picked the day on purpose

00:02:08 because it was the 10th anniversary. So that was quite serendipitous. But out of Sun News Network's

00:02:13 ashes, as you so rightly put it on X. We saw True North start. We saw Rebel News start. We saw so

00:02:20 many of our contributors go to start up the Western Standard. And then we saw folks like, you know,

00:02:25 Paige McPherson go over to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. She's now with Frasier. And our former

00:02:29 colleague Brian Lilly is still with Sun because he's technically with the paper. But of course,

00:02:35 Brian does excellent video interviews as well. Just landed one with Steve Bannon when he was

00:02:40 down in D.C. So in many ways, Sun News Network lives on. We're just a gestalt now.

00:02:46 Yeah, we're going to get to that Brian Lilly interview with Steve Bannon later in the show,

00:02:50 because I really think it raises some interesting points that the rest of the media leave out. And

00:02:55 that's the point of independent media and even, you know, voices in the establishment like Brian

00:03:00 Lilly is with the Toronto Sun, but he's still willing to go places that most journalists aren't.

00:03:05 Chris, I want to start the show by talking about this unbelievable footage that came out of Toronto

00:03:09 Pearson Airport yesterday. So this is sort of like the worst nightmare for us who travel and

00:03:14 get on planes with some frequency. A Delta Airlines plane crash landed at Toronto Pearson amid

00:03:20 fiercely cold and very wild winter weather. So Sean, if we can put up images of what that looks

00:03:27 like as B-roll here, but the Delta Airlines flight, you can just see this new clip that came

00:03:33 out, you can see it going down and basically hitting ice, sliding and turning into a ball of

00:03:40 flames. Just absolutely terrifying footage there because you could see the plane was going down as

00:03:52 normal about to land when I don't know exactly what happened. It just seemed like it hit the

00:03:57 ground, turned into a flame, a ball of flames. It's unbelievable that nobody was, nobody was

00:04:03 killed. We have reports of at least eight people were seriously injured, including one person in

00:04:08 critical condition. A child as well was sustained injuries. Let's go on to show the next video,

00:04:14 because basically the plane then landed upside down. And you can see people climbing out of

00:04:19 the plane here while they're working to put out the fire. And you can just see the absolutely

00:04:25 treacherous runway and the snow on the ground there, the frigid, cold, icy temperatures in

00:04:34 Toronto. But, you know, it's unbelievable because, you know, I was talking to a friend who's not from

00:04:41 Toronto and she said, you know, is this normal? Like, isn't the runway like this every year

00:04:47 around this time? And I said, yeah, I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. I've

00:04:51 never seen a plane land on ice and flip like that. I mean, it's given how much fuel and gasoline are

00:04:57 in these planes. It is remarkable. It didn't just burst into a bigger ball of flame and that people

00:05:03 not only that anybody survived that, but that everybody survived it is an absolute miracle.

00:05:08 Chris, what do you think? It is a miracle. The footage from inside the plane where the person's

00:05:14 walking on the ceiling that I'm sure most people have seen. Yeah, I think we have that as well. So

00:05:20 can see the plane is upside down they're walking and coming out they're being told to put their

00:05:23 phones away um sorry to interrupt you chris no no it's just it's so remarkable and look there

00:05:29 see above it that charred black thing that clearly looks like the wing part that ripped off when the

00:05:34 thing flipped over it's it's astonishing um i just my heart went into my throat when i saw what was

00:05:41 happening on x and it was breaking it's a miracle people survived this i pray for the people who

00:05:46 are in critical condition. And I think it starts bringing up stories of people who have been in

00:05:52 situations that have been scary on a flight. There was a flight that was landing once. It was my

00:05:57 whole family. We were landing in Calgary. I'll never forget it. The stewardess screamed. People

00:06:02 were sobbing and throwing up. The pilot bailed on the landing at the last second and cranked

00:06:08 the plane almost into a vertical. It was so frightening. And everybody thought this is it.

00:06:15 everybody thought this is it and thank god the pilot was able to circle and land safely but if

00:06:22 you looked out the south window candace landing in calgary from bc so you're looking south pitch

00:06:28 black you look up the north bright sunny day so there were some crazy weather pattern that

00:06:34 was coming in with these freak wind storms that caused this um thankfully we all got off the plane

00:06:40 safely a lot of people went straight to the bar after they got into the airport but it's just

00:06:46 remarkable that these folks are going to be okay we hope um and look how quickly the emergency

00:06:51 services got there it looks like they were on them right away so it was quite something seeing

00:06:56 that yesterday wow um what a scary moment i think we've all kind of had tense moments up in the sky

00:07:02 like that and really just just uh sobering to see so many incidents already this year in 2025

00:07:10 of horrible tragedies and and i think we're just so lucky um that we didn't have anything more

00:07:16 serious yesterday and it reminds you you know when you're when you're about to land you think okay

00:07:21 i'm safe we're here right and it was like you know sometimes people might take their seat belts off

00:07:26 or get ready to stand up a little too early those might have been the people that got injured because

00:07:30 you know the plane ended up upside down so your seat belt would have been the only thing holding

00:07:34 you in and i know for myself usually when i'm flying i'm holding a baby right because the baby

00:07:38 doesn't have their own seat so imagine if you're holding a baby you have a child next to you you

00:07:42 could imagine uh just just how scary that was but again uh tremendous work from the first responders

00:07:48 there in toronto to to ensure that there were no injuries that people were out safely before

00:07:53 you know something worse could have happened like the plane uh caught fire so a pretty scary story

00:07:58 But again, fortunate that nothing happened. I want to move on to talk a little bit about Mark Carney, because there was an explosive interview that he did on CBC News on Sunday night with Rosemary Barton.

00:08:08 Now, I know a lot of people in the independent and conservative circles accuse Rosemary Barton of not being a very good journalist and being quite biased, especially towards Justin Trudeau.

00:08:16 I actually thought she did a tremendous job in this interview with Mark Carney to the point where he wasn't really prepared for it, because I think he thought it was going to be an easy softball interview.

00:08:26 and you can kind of see the mask start to slip when she presses him and asks him some tough

00:08:31 questions. So I'm going to play this clip where Rosemary Barton, sure she's polite, but she's firm 1.00

00:08:35 and she asks him to describe what makes Carney different than Trudeau. Now I just want to point

00:08:41 out a few things before we play the clip. Note how he responds and how he looks. You can see that

00:08:46 he's getting a little annoyed, agitated. The differences that he describes are incredibly

00:08:51 superficial. Like he didn't have a good answer for how he's different than Trudeau. He goes

00:08:55 straight to the most superficial things we were born in different places and we play different

00:08:59 sports which you know to the canadian public it's like okay uh that's not very substantive um and

00:09:05 and then he's so nervous in this response chris that he actually spills his cup of water his arms

00:09:11 are flailing and he knocks over a glass of water and you can see that the shot goes to rosemary

00:09:17 barton and she's looking a little surprised by how uncomfortable he is over what should be a super

00:09:22 straightforward question. OK, so let's play that clip and then I'll get your reaction to it.

00:09:26 Why should Canadians believe you'll do anything differently, though, than Justin Trudeau?

00:09:32 You've advised him. You've given him advice. You've been a liberal. So what is going to be

00:09:37 markedly different? We're very different people, Prime Minister and I. We have different backgrounds.

00:09:41 I was born in Northwest Territories. He was born in Rideau Hall. You know, I'm a hockey goalie.

00:09:47 he's a snowboarder. I focus on the economy. He has had a different focus for Canada. I think we

00:09:55 have the same values and we're trying to achieve the same ends. So they have the same values trying

00:10:01 to achieve the same ends, but... Bang. And I'm sorry, but the fact that he's a hockey goalie

00:10:07 and that Justin Trudeau is a snowboarder, is that supposed to illustrate anything of depth

00:10:11 that shows us the difference between these two men? Those are pretty similar things. I mean,

00:10:15 yeah, they're different sports, but they're both winter sports. And like when I think of Mark

00:10:18 Kearney, I don't think he's personified as a hockey goalie. That's just like a side thing

00:10:23 that he happened to do. Same with Justin Trudeau and snowboarding. So I really thought that that

00:10:27 was a terrible answer. What did you think, Chris? Yeah, it was interesting. So journalists, no

00:10:34 matter where they're from, as you always say, we need to hold politicians to account. We need to

00:10:39 hold the powerful to account. It's our job quite often to get them on record. So you ask them tough

00:10:45 questions, you get them to commit to things or not out loud with their faces. The issue should

00:10:51 be no different if it's on the CBC. Now, of course, taxpayers shouldn't pay for the CBC,

00:10:55 but it's very good that she pushed him on this. And it's a really simple push. I mean, come on.

00:11:01 He was clearly an advisor for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Everybody who's in the arena

00:11:07 knows this. He should have known she was going to ask him a question like that. And he should

00:11:11 have been better prepared. What I find frustrating though, Candace, is we get hundreds, in some

00:11:18 cases, thousands of letters from supporters who are really fighting to make ends meet. Like 50%

00:11:25 of Canadians are broke, meaning they're within 200 bucks every month of not being able to make

00:11:31 the minimum payments on their bills. And here we get this banal chit chat difference between hockey

00:11:38 goalies and snowboarders, like who cares what taxpayers and what a lot of hardworking Canadians

00:11:45 care about is how are you going to make my life different? And when it comes to Carney, boy, oh

00:11:50 boy, between his announcements that he's made on the carbon taxes, and his story keeps changing and

00:11:56 shifting on that, and his book that he just wrote in the teeth of the lockdown, it was published in

00:12:02 2021. There's some really alarming things here for people. And so these sort of things, I find

00:12:08 it telling, and I really appreciate your point in him knocking the water and stuff. So you kind of

00:12:12 get more into his head and see how prepped he is. But when it comes to the substance, these

00:12:17 journalists have got to chase this guy down and stick a mic in his face. Well, the whole pitch

00:12:22 about Mark Carney, I believe, is that he's this calm, stable hand, that he has had all of this

00:12:27 experience, that he knows what he's doing. He's an elite. He's an expert. I mean, for goodness

00:12:31 sakes he said i'm a globalist and an elitist and that's exactly what canada needs right

00:12:36 uh so so given that his persona is supposed to be calm and cool and collected i really thought that

00:12:40 him knocking the water over like that was was something because that didn't really show me

00:12:45 that he's a calm collective guy i want to get a little bit more into some of the misleading claims

00:12:49 that we have caught him saying two things at a different sides of his mouth this happens a lot

00:12:54 in canada where a politician will say one thing in one part of the country and then they'll say

00:12:59 something totally different in another part of the country so here's here's the first example of it

00:13:04 i have two for us on the show today but uh last wednesday mark carney was speaking in kelowna bc

00:13:09 and one of the things that he pledged was that he was going to cut government spending and that he

00:13:14 was going to balance the budget chris within three years now those of us who pay close attention know

00:13:18 that even the conservatives aren't promising that because justin trudeau has blown out the budget

00:13:23 so much because he's operating a 61 billion dollar deficit racked up over a trillion dollars in debt

00:13:29 now 1.2 trillion in the latest uh glance it's going to be really hard to cut the budget and

00:13:34 get it balanced because you're going to have to get rid of a lot so to hear mark carney say i'm

00:13:38 going to balance in three years it's like wow he must be a real committed fiscal conservative so

00:13:42 here is a clip of him from wednesday february 20 uh 12 2025 saying that he will balance the budget

00:13:48 we need a government that spends less but gets the country to invest more

00:13:55 so my government will balance the spending budget within the first three years

00:14:00 so uh just to point out notice how the crowd applauds right even liberal supporters

00:14:07 know that canada is in big trouble fiscally because of justin trudeau so the fact that

00:14:12 he would balance the budget is big news and so you had the wall street journal uh this is the

00:14:16 headline that they ran, ex-central banker Mark Carney pledges to return to balance budgets

00:14:21 within three years, pointing out the last time we had a budget surplus was in 2007, 2008. And so

00:14:30 interesting, that's a big announcement from Mark Carney. But then when he was on with Rosemary

00:14:35 Barton, Chris, he changed his tune because he was asked a specific question, will you balance the

00:14:40 budget? And rather than just repeating what he said in Kelowna, that yes, I'll balance the budget,

00:14:44 He gets into these minute details that really tell us that, no, actually, he's not going to balance the budget, not even remotely.

00:14:51 He wants to invest and invest and invest, which is politician speak for borrowing and spending more money.

00:14:57 So let's play this clip of him with Rosemary Barton on Sunday night.

00:15:01 Will you balance the budget and how quickly?

00:15:03 A couple of things there.

00:15:04 One of the things we're going to do later this week is go through our new fiscal, what I would propose is our fiscal rules.

00:15:11 Core to that is to reduce spending of the government,

00:15:15 sort of balance our operational spending over the course of the next three years.

00:15:21 Where we are willing to borrow is to invest and grow this economy.

00:15:26 That is an absolute crucial point.

00:15:28 So there'll be a deficit.

00:15:29 It is a fundamental difference between the approach the government has taken up until now.

00:15:34 It is a fundamental difference between the approach of Pierre Polyev,

00:15:38 which is a trickle-down, lit a thousand flowers.

00:15:41 There will be a deficit. It'll just be, it'll justify it because it's investing in the economy, is that?

00:15:46 Investing in the economy at a time when we absolutely have to build as a country.

00:15:53 So, Chris, I just want to quickly read from Campbell Clark in the Globe and Mail because he caught this and said, wait a minute, what he's saying isn't adding up here.

00:16:01 So here is the Globe and Mail. Mark Carney has a different idea of budget discipline, talks about the Wall Street Journal and the fact that he said he would balance budget.

00:16:11 he writes, but that's not what Mr. Carney meant. He was talking about splitting the budget into two

00:16:16 and balancing one part. That's not the same as eliminating the deficit, but it does tell us a

00:16:21 lot about Mr. Carney and his approach to the country's finances. So it says, for the record,

00:16:25 the Wall Street Journal didn't misquote him. Mr. Carney did indeed tell a crowd at a leadership

00:16:29 campaign in Kelowna last week that my government will balance the budget within three years.

00:16:34 The reason, though, it's misleading because this idea that he's going to say we have an operating

00:16:39 budget, which is the spending on all of the things that we have to spend on, like the salaries of

00:16:46 bureaucrats, the direct transfers to Canadians, the direct transfers of province. But then we'll

00:16:50 create a separate budget for all of our investments that we want to make, including, you know, he's

00:16:55 already pledged that he's going to increase Canada's military to get to the 2% NATO target.

00:17:00 He wants to build infrastructure. He wants to put money back into the Canadian economy. So this is

00:17:06 just a total sleight of hand what do you think oh it's a huge sleight of hand and it's one of the

00:17:11 older tricks in the book of politicians who like to play fast and loose with numbers so here in

00:17:17 Alberta there was one instance where we had a provincial government that tried to split the

00:17:22 budget some of my colleagues at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation said that they had to

00:17:27 create spreadsheets with like 30 rows in them with a few different columns to enter all of the 0.99

00:17:33 spending data points, just to figure out how big their stupid deficit was. 0.98

00:17:37 And at the municipal level, I run into this all the time. 0.99

00:17:41 So for example, in Calgary, they changed the way their accounting

00:17:45 works around 2012, which was really shifty.

00:17:48 They try to separate their operating versus their capital budget.

00:17:52 Similar things happen up in Edmonton.

00:17:54 I imagine this is happening now in most major cities in Canada.

00:17:58 The bottom line is there's only one taxpayer.

00:18:01 And if politicians are spending taxpayers' money that they don't have and they're borrowing it, they're going into debt plus interest.

00:18:11 And you nailed it there when it comes to our current national debt.

00:18:15 The Trudeau government has doubled the national debt.

00:18:19 We are now at $1.2 trillion in federal debt, not counting all the provincial government's debts, okay?

00:18:26 This is just Ottawa's debt.

00:18:28 So we have un-money right now.

00:18:31 We are spending more money on interest on our debt than we are on health transfers to the provinces, meaning more than we spend on health care.

00:18:40 It's a disgusting amount of money.

00:18:42 And for Carney to think that he can say, oh, it's investment.

00:18:46 Exactly to your point, Candace.

00:18:48 When a politician's lips are moving and they say we're going to invest, they're taking your money.

00:18:53 They're spending taxpayers money and they're printing more of it often, too, which helps cause inflation to be worse.

00:18:59 So this is a really good catch. I'm glad that he tried to say that to the room of folks, normal

00:19:06 folks in Kelowna. Notice how he didn't try to explain what he meant when he just said that to

00:19:10 the folks in Kelowna. But when he was suddenly in front of a journalist, he had to try to explain

00:19:15 himself. This is why I'm encouraging every journalist, don't care which outlet it is,

00:19:19 chase this guy down, get him on the record, because the more you peel back this onion,

00:19:24 the more it stinks. Well, and that's not the only lie that we caught him in, because at that same

00:19:29 press conference or that same, sorry, that same rally in Kelowna, this clip came out and kind of

00:19:35 went viral because it had a lot of Canadians concerned. Mark Carney boasting and bragging

00:19:40 about how he was going to use the emergency powers. Now, anytime you hear that, you know,

00:19:45 anyone who was involved in the trucker convoy or even just watching those events unfold in 2022

00:19:50 knows that the Emergencies Act, the Emergencies Power, was used illegally against protesters,

00:19:56 lawful protesters. And basically, it's the modern-day equivalent of martial law,

00:20:01 the idea that you unleash the military against peaceful protesters. So I'm going to play this

00:20:07 clip. This was, again, that same campaign stop in Kelowna, British Columbia, Mark Carney telling

00:20:11 the crowd that he will use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency

00:20:16 powers to accelerate major projects. Let's play that clip. And something that my government is

00:20:22 going to do is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency

00:20:26 powers of the federal government, to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build

00:20:32 this economy and take on the Americans. So in the context of the looming trade war,

00:20:40 President Trump's threats about a tariff, we kind of start to hear the same song from all

00:20:45 the politicians that okay now's the time to roll up our sleeves and start building out the economy

00:20:49 doing things that probably chris should have been done decades ago um including major pipelines

00:20:54 right so he is saying you know we're gonna we're gonna use the emergencies act if possible he

00:20:59 he literally says we'll use all of the powers of the federal government so again that's the folks

00:21:04 in british columbia last wednesday but then last night mark carney was on french cbc radio canada

00:21:10 and he was asked specifically about whether he would push pipelines because you would think one

00:21:17 of the things that would be needed to meet the threat from tariffs from the Americans is we need

00:21:23 to be able to get our pipelines and our oil to markets, including on the East Coast, including

00:21:27 the Energy East pipeline. That's one of the major things that we need that has been stalled and

00:21:32 blocked by the Liberal government. And he was specifically asked about this. Now, I have the

00:21:37 clip. It's in French. So I think probably better to just read what he says. And then Sean, you can

00:21:42 show the clip to the viewers, but I'll read what is said here. So the interviewer last night, this

00:21:47 is in French. You can just mute the sound there, Sean. So this is what it looked like. And the

00:21:53 interviewer says, but you would never impose a pipeline on Quebec or any other province. And

00:21:58 Mark Carney says, I would never impose. Roy says, never. Carney says, never. And then Roy asks,

00:22:04 emergency legislation. Carney goes on, he says, but I will use my government. If I were prime

00:22:08 minister, my government would use our emergency powers to accelerate projects that are in the

00:22:12 national interest. Roy goes, okay. Carney continues, he says, but it has to be decided

00:22:17 with the provinces, with the nations. Roy asks, okay, so if a province says no, you're not putting

00:22:23 any pipelines through. Carney says, absolutely. Roy asks, you don't impose it? Carney says,

00:22:28 never in Quebec. So to the Quebec audience, he's saying never a pipeline. No, I won't use it. I

00:22:35 won't do the emergency powers. But then speaking to the rest of the country in English, he's happy

00:22:39 to say, we'll use everything we can, every piece of power. To me, this is just so typical of

00:22:46 Canadian politicians speaking different messages in different languages. It just drives me crazy.

00:22:50 What do you think? It happens way too often. This is one of the more stark examples that I can

00:22:56 remember seeing in a long time. And it's pretty clear, like most Canadians who have at least 0.99

00:23:01 taken some French in school, know jamais means never. Like you can see just the headline there,

00:23:06 what he's saying, which is pretty unsettling. And back to your point of what he said to the

00:23:10 Kelowna, the Kelowna crowd, him saying emergency powers, does that mean the Emergencies Act? And

00:23:16 to your point exactly, that is the current incarnation of the War Measures Act. And that

00:23:20 That was something the federal court said.

00:23:23 The Trudeau government was wrong to impose on Canadians.

00:23:28 And keep in mind, it's not just, of course, the protesters who might be on the ground

00:23:31 for whatever reason that they're there for.

00:23:33 In that case, it was the trucker convoy.

00:23:35 But it suspends, essentially, the free expression of all Canadians at that time.

00:23:41 You're under martial law, as you described it.

00:23:44 That's a pretty harrowing thing when you start thinking about it of, oh, if I speak

00:23:49 up and i try to hold my government to account which is a huge role for the canadian taxpayers

00:23:54 federation will i get my bank account frozen talk about a chill on free expression that is not okay

00:24:02 and so to hear that kind of thrown out there in the context of a pipeline which you're right we

00:24:07 should have had this built 10 years ago it's absurd we do not have a national east west coast to coast

00:24:12 pipeline for our own energy in canada it's rather embarrassing when you start thinking about it

00:24:17 And then to have him turn around and say, en français, au jamais, I would never do that.

00:24:23 Again, he has to be held to account for this. I would say the same thing

00:24:27 if this were a conservative politician pulling this or an NDP politician pulling this.

00:24:31 And it's really important for taxpayers to understand that we are losing out on tens

00:24:37 of billions of dollars just in federal tax revenue by not having proper pipelines in Canada

00:24:47 and the ability to get our energy out to market we're not even calculating the municipal property

00:24:52 taxes that are actually generated from these pipeline corridors it is an astonishing amount

00:24:57 of money that we are throwing away down the drain and it's also according to my more financial

00:25:03 friends scaring away a ton of investment by not having a really smart energy policy in canada

00:25:09 and i would encourage anybody to read mark carney's book it's called values it literally on the front

00:25:16 cover, has the planet Earth with a bunch of scaffolding around it, as if it's being reshaped

00:25:21 or rebuilt. And he gets right into how he feels about pipelines and natural resources. He says

00:25:29 in his book that apparently we need to keep 80% of our oil and gas in the ground and that he wants

00:25:36 to electrify everything. What does he mean by everything? It sounds like everything. With what

00:25:41 kind of power? Solar and wind, according to his book. So there are some hard questions that have

00:25:48 to be asked of this guy. Unbelievable. I think that I did a deep dive on that book with Cosman

00:25:54 Georgia, a journalist at True North, who has been going through, I mean, so many of the things that

00:25:58 you mentioned, the digital currency, the idea that it was Mark Carney who was encouraging the

00:26:02 government to freeze bank accounts. He wrote it in the Globe and Mail in an op-ed saying this is

00:26:07 sedition. This is a dangerous, scary person. In that interview with Rosemary Barton, he's sort of

00:26:13 trying to walk back the idea of the carbon tax saying, no, we'll just impose it on the big

00:26:16 polluters instead. Rosemary Barton rightly says, well, aren't they just going to pass it on to the 0.99

00:26:21 consumers? Like if you're a big company and all of a sudden you're getting levied with huge fines

00:26:25 from the government, you don't just get that money out of thin air. You have to charge your

00:26:29 customers more. That's basic economics. And again, Carney just doesn't really have a good answer for

00:26:35 I think that to your point, you know, the role of journalists is to ask questions.

00:26:39 I'm glad that the CBC in French were asking those questions.

00:26:42 I wish that they had pulled up the clip of him from Kelowna saying, but you just said

00:26:46 that you would use all the powers of the federal government, including emergency powers to

00:26:51 get, you know, to build infrastructure to combat these tariffs.

00:26:55 And yet I don't I don't understand how Quebec can have a veto, Chris.

00:26:59 It's frustrating because right now the only way that eastern Canada gets its oil, central

00:27:04 Canada gets its oil is through a pipeline in the United States. So having a trade war with the

00:27:08 Americans, it really begs the question, like, will that oil even be able to get through? And then

00:27:13 what would happen to Central Canada? Right now, Canada already imports oil from Saudi Arabia

00:27:17 and Nigeria. I can only imagine what we'd have to do if all of a sudden the oil couldn't get across

00:27:23 from Alberta because of these pipelines. It's really... Imagine that the natural gas pipeline

00:27:30 that supplies heat to your own house runs through your neighbor's property. Like not underground,

00:27:37 so there's some weird trick or anything, but like above ground, let's for argument's sake,

00:27:40 it just runs across there. How fun would that be as your neighbor changes moods or changes tactics?

00:27:46 Like this is crazy. To your point on the Kelowna interview and shout out to Castanet,

00:27:51 which is a scrappy little media organization that covers a lot of good news in the Okanagan region.

00:27:56 That was their footage that that we've gotten these clips from.

00:28:00 They do great work. And the other element there, if I can, Candace, where he brings it back down to the carbon tax again.

00:28:07 He says that he won't axe the tax and everybody laughed in the room and he kind of snickered.

00:28:13 So he sees the idea of completely canceling the carbon tax as some joke.

00:28:17 Then he says, I would change the carbon tax. That's a huge difference.

00:28:22 You were getting to the point of how even the CBC is saying, won't that cost just trickle down to the normal person? Short answer, yes, of course it will. We just got a poll back, Candice. Only 12% of Canadians believe Mark Carney when he says, oh no, normal people won't feel the cost of the carbon tax. Magically, these big businesses will just eat the cost. Only 12% of Canadians believe that line.

00:28:49 So that was very encouraging that people know that if you dump a huge carbon tax on a refinery, so your gasoline and diesel will go up in cost because of the carbon tax.

00:29:01 They understand that. They understand that if Carney nails a utility company like your home heating with a carbon tax, your heating bill will go up higher.

00:29:10 And so it's really encouraging to know that Canadians are seeing through this.

00:29:14 Absolutely, Chris. OK, I want to shift gears a little bit to talk about the Ontario election.

00:29:18 Yes, there's an election going on in Ontario. There was a leaders debate last night. And I don't even want to play the clip because it's just so bad. Like the candidates running in this election are not very good. I think Doug Ford will walk away with a big majority. But basically, the idea when you watch one of these leadership debates is that everything is a crisis. Everything requires more government, no matter what, whether it's healthcare, whether it's housing, whether it's crime, whether it's traffic problems, every single politician, including

00:29:48 the conservative Doug Ford, his solution is always more government, which is just kind of sad.

00:29:54 I want to talk a little bit about a moment that caused a lot of stir online and I think among

00:29:59 Canadians because the night that the campaign launched, this is back in late January, Doug Ford

00:30:05 was on camera speaking in London, Ontario to a police chief gala. And he said that he believes

00:30:12 in the death penalty, that he thinks that someone who breaks into someone's home and kills somebody,

00:30:17 kills an innocent person he wrote he said should be sent right to sparky uh an allusion to the

00:30:23 electric chair uh we have that clip i want to play it now you know someone breaks in your house uses

00:30:30 a gun 10 years automatic they discharge that gun to get 15 years automatic god forbid they shoot

00:30:41 someone and they survive 20 years automatic and god forbid they kill an innocent person

00:30:49 i don't even go 25 years i send them right to sparky and we'll take care of everything from

00:30:54 there so you can see uh well it's actually interesting chris because you can see in that

00:31:00 clip uh for the listening audience he's speaking at a lectern and he actually has um you you can

00:31:06 see as teleprompters up so he's giving a speech presumably reading off a teleprompter uh might

00:31:11 have been ad-libbing that one part where he says we forget about 25 years you should send them

00:31:16 straight to sparky well his campaign has clarified and they're now walking that back even though i

00:31:21 think that a lot of people online were excited about that uh he now walks back this thing just

00:31:27 saying it was a joke and it was in poor taste but this is a real problem chris i i raised this in my

00:31:33 interview that i did last week with pierre polyev this idea that there are home invasions across the

00:31:39 gta happening almost every single night it's terrifying for families from others there's a

00:31:43 clip that was circulating just the other day of a home invasion in mississauga this is a video of

00:31:49 three men breaking into a house and a mom with a baseball bat chasing these men out of the house

00:31:55 apparently she had her children sleeping upstairs i want to play this clip for you this is happening

00:32:01 every single day the family sent me this video so canadians can be aware of what's happening so

00:32:06 the father comes you can see they start throwing a whole bunch of objects at him look at this

00:32:11 now the mother has come look at this with a bat to scare these thugs away this mother is a true

00:32:16 hero look at this no fear you can see she's screaming at them getting them out of here

00:32:21 this is crazy what's happening the fact that we have to put our families our mothers our children

00:32:26 in this situation it's unbelievable i don't know if that's happening out in alberta but i hear about

00:32:32 this all the time in in toronto and in the gta mississauga is just a suburb here it happens all

00:32:38 the time it's such a large part of it is this revolving door prison system that doug ford was

00:32:44 alluding to there that we need hard minimums on crime i saw this story i want to tie it in as well

00:32:50 um the via rail terrorist so i don't know if you remember but back in i think it was 2015

00:32:56 These two individuals, one a Palestinian and the other one from Tunisia, were planning a terrorist 0.75

00:33:02 attack to derail a train heading from Toronto to New York City. They had a plan in the works. They

00:33:07 had gone and taken steps. They were found guilty by a Canadian court. This one individual from

00:33:13 Tunisia is supposed to be deported, but we learned on Friday that the judge is delaying the deportation

00:33:21 issue due to mental health concerns so the judge wrote i find a real risk of serious mental harm

00:33:28 on the basis of evidence from this individual's treating psychologist wrote the judge the court

00:33:33 heard from the psychologist saying that basically because of his um a prognosis of medical fragility

00:33:41 um that he that he shouldn't be sent back to his home country he shouldn't be deported instead he

00:33:47 should stay in a canadian prison to me this makes such a mockery of our systems like someone can 1.00

00:33:53 come from another country plan to mass murder canadians take steps to mass murder canadians 0.87

00:33:58 this guy was here on a student visa he is a phd student so he's not he's not some dummy right he's 0.56

00:34:03 an intelligent person um and basically decided to try to plan a terrorist attack against canadians

00:34:10 fortunately because of the work of canadian police he was stopped the attack was thwarted

00:34:15 but still we won't even send him home because we're worried about his mental fragility it's

00:34:19 just unbelievable to me chris what do you make of all this well i will say at the taxpayers

00:34:24 federation we often ask people what they think the role of government should be or what they think

00:34:28 their money should be spent on and generally speaking quite often safety public safety in

00:34:34 the sense of police catching bad guys keeping criminals away from your house stopping horrific

00:34:40 footage like you just saw there with the mother running with a baseball bat those usually rank

00:34:45 pretty high when it comes to what things government should be spending good money on.

00:34:50 But the issue is getting good results. So if it were something a bit more simple,

00:34:54 like some silly foreign trip, we would ask the question, are you getting good return on your

00:34:59 money? Is this good value for taxpayers' dollars? And logically, the answer in many cases when it 0.51

00:35:06 comes to the criminal justice system now is no. Because if you listen to police who often tell us,

00:35:13 for example, that they are constantly dealing with illegal guns coming across the United States

00:35:18 border when it comes to gangbangers and criminals and not coming from law-abiding firearms owners,

00:35:23 which the Trudeau government is attacking. We hear that from cops all the time.

00:35:27 And taking off my CTF hat, one of my main roles as a journalist was being a court reporter. So I

00:35:35 would sit there day after day covering the criminal justice system. I've worked very closely with some

00:35:40 folks in law enforcement so yeah it's very clear that there is a revolving door system there's what

00:35:46 they often refer to as catch and release catch and release my numbers are a little off but generally

00:35:52 speaking i think it's about 60 criminals in the vancouver area committing about a thousand crimes

00:36:00 or probably more basically saying a very tiny pool of people are committing most of these crimes

00:36:07 including some violent crimes all of them all of them it's a tiny fraction of the population

00:36:13 that are constantly doing this and a lot of people have heard of a general answer coming

00:36:18 from police saying i can catch somebody doing something awful in the morning and he's back

00:36:23 out on the street in the afternoon before that cop shift is over so if you keep on doing it

00:36:29 keep in mind i want people to imagine apart from obviously the danger to yourself but if you remove

00:36:34 yourself and just look at this from a monetary issue picture a cash register every time these

00:36:40 people are brought into the system and let out ching ching ching ching it is costing a ton of 1.00

00:36:45 money every single time they're doing this and i gotta ask them are you getting a good return on

00:36:50 your investment here i think most of the time people will say no because a lot of people feel

00:36:55 that crime is going up and they're feeling less safe even in smaller cities and towns now well

00:37:00 Well, there's data to back this up. So True North reporting that Canada experienced faster rise in

00:37:06 property and violent crime in the United States. This is based on a Fraser Institute study comparing

00:37:11 violent crime rates in Canadian cities versus American cities over the last 20 years. So the

00:37:17 report found that since 2014, Canadian cities have seen a 40% increase in violent crime, whereas in

00:37:24 the same period, the United States just saw a 7% increase. So to be fair, the violent crime rate in

00:37:29 Canada went from 148 per 100,000 to 258 per 100,000, while in the United States went from 313

00:37:37 to 335. So Canadian cities on balance are still safer, but that rise in crime is happening. And

00:37:43 it looks like sooner or later, we will catch up to the Americans, given what's happening in our

00:37:48 cities. Okay, I want to change gears a little bit here, Chris, and talk about the absolute waste

00:37:54 that we see in the Canadian government. Sometimes it's like the little things that, you know, you

00:37:59 hear about a $20 billion, you know, green slush fund or whatever, and it's hard to really make

00:38:04 sense of what that even means. But then you see something small, like $5,000 going to subsidize

00:38:11 a big corporation or something like that. And that's the one that really, really drives you

00:38:14 crazy. There's this video on X. So the international trade minister, Mary Ng,

00:38:20 posted this clip of herself alongside 220 Canadian bureaucrats on a diplomatic trade

00:38:28 mission to Australia. Look at that beautiful image. Those are all Canadian bureaucrats

00:38:33 outside the beautiful Sydney Opera House in beautiful Sydney, Australia in February.

00:38:38 Wouldn't you rather be in the middle of Australian summer as opposed to the treacherous

00:38:43 winter conditions that we just showed in Toronto? So somehow this is good value for our money,

00:38:49 trying to send a trade delegation to Australia in the middle of their summer.

00:38:54 I don't understand why this stuff happens.

00:38:57 It's an absurd waste of money.

00:38:58 What do you think, Chris?

00:38:59 Oh, it's a disgusting waste of money, and you nailed it.

00:39:01 And I'm so glad that Canadians see through this.

00:39:04 I mean, they see footage like that.

00:39:05 They should think, I paid for every single one of their tickets.

00:39:09 I'm paying for all of their hotels.

00:39:11 I'm paying for whatever that is, a drone camera to do the little swoosh around thing.

00:39:15 yay we've got a bunch of canadian office workers bureaucrats in australia why so the question always

00:39:22 gets down to return on investment and you can't convince me that we need to send more than 200

00:39:28 bureaucrats to australia to get a good return on investment for say a trade deal that needs to be

00:39:34 a tight tight team of smart negotiators that do that stuff well and under budget that's how that

00:39:40 stuff gets worked out not this these are junkets and this is a pattern this is a pattern canada

00:39:47 routinely sends the biggest delegation to all of these cop whatever i don't remember what it stands

00:39:54 for those climate meetings i have every single year in some beautiful exotic place they always

00:39:59 send the most delegation we don't know we thought that this was all about emissions right but no we

00:40:06 always wind up spending and sending the most jet plane tickets to send people over there. In Paris,

00:40:13 it was crazy. I think we had more than the host country. And then once we're there, we spend money

00:40:19 on stupid things. Like I think it was during one of the COP meetings where it was then Finance 0.98

00:40:24 Minister Chrystia Freeland who stayed in the wrong city. And instead of taking the commuter train, 1.00

00:40:30 she took a limousine or a chauffeur service back and forth city to city every single time all the

00:40:36 taxpayers expense so this looks like just another one of those big junkets uh we're definitely going

00:40:41 to be filing a lot of foys on those things and finding out how much taxpayers money was spent

00:40:47 and we just finished getting back foys candace if you don't mind me mentioning global affairs which

00:40:52 we would us veterans would call it foreign affairs canada it's called global affairs now

00:40:57 they spent ten thousand dollars on lego like building block lego they spent ten grand on that

00:41:05 it's part of their five hundred thousand dollar blowout on art that they blow it looks like a few

00:41:13 years now for the last three years and it's all part of the march madness and i've seen the emails

00:41:18 come through before when i worked in government this email comes through around this time january

00:41:23 february hey we have this amount of money left in our budget instead of saving it which is

00:41:28 taxpayers money or handing it back to the treasury to save it they blow it every single year because 0.92

00:41:34 it's use it or lose it that's when you get these stupid stories of ten thousand bucks on lego 0.99

00:41:39 or eight thousand dollars on chair cushions absolute insanity well my five-year-old son 0.98

00:41:44 would absolutely love to have ten thousand dollars worth of lego that sounds like a dream to him

00:41:49 um you could build the entire death star and the entire millennium falcon for that i think

00:41:54 absolutely uh so it reminds me i had a friend who worked for the uh he was a pentagon spokesman this

00:41:59 american friend a pentagon spokesman who worked down in guantanamo bay uh during the time when

00:42:05 that was open and he used to tell stories about how there was so much canadian interest in this

00:42:10 one inmate omar cotter um but the the interest always seemed to happen in like january and

00:42:17 february right so when it's cold in canada these journalists come up with ideas that they want to

00:42:22 go down and visit with omar cotter and tour guantanamo and you get all these requests from

00:42:26 canadian journalists in january february and then like the whole rest of the year there'd be no

00:42:30 interest because you know it's cuba it was guantanamo base in cuba so every canadian wants to

00:42:35 get out of the canadian winter and go down to cuba uh for work uh but really you know these junkets

00:42:42 are always designed like that because you know it's just an excuse for many of these canadians

00:42:47 to take a vacation so great work by the canadian taxpayers federation to expose this kind of thing

00:42:53 i mentioned that we would get to this steve bannon interview with our colleague uh brian

00:42:57 lily i'll just go through it quickly because we're running short on time here i'll specifically show

00:43:01 this clip though because lily asked mr bannon about mark carney and his carbon plan so one of

00:43:08 of the things that Mark Carney has talked about is having an additional tariff on carbon from

00:43:14 countries that don't have carbon taxes. So if you don't have the same green environmentalist buy-in

00:43:19 that the Canadians believe you should have, he wants to impose an additional layer of tariffs

00:43:24 on trade. I think Steve Bannon had a very appropriate reaction here, which is basically

00:43:29 that that would completely change our relationship with the United States, and they would see it as

00:43:34 a hostile act. Let's play that clip. What would the reaction be in Washington to Canada saying

00:43:41 if your climate plan is not good enough and the American one would not be good enough for Mark

00:43:46 Carney, what would the reaction be to Canada putting a carbon tariff on every import that we

00:43:52 have from you? I think it would be a complete rethinking here in the country about what our

00:43:58 relationship is with Canada. I think that if you did that, you would essentially say that we're a

00:44:04 hostile power. I think that would be, I think it would be reviewed by the American people as that.

00:44:07 I think it would be reviewed by people in Washington as that. And I think it would be

00:44:11 reviewed by President Trump as that. So this idea that Mark Carney's best suited to deal with Trump,

00:44:17 but Trump finds his policies like absolutely repulsive. So for people who don't know, Steve

00:44:22 Bannon was a chief strategist for Trump. He runs a popular podcast called The War Room. He went to

00:44:27 prison. He was part of the lawfare campaign against the Trump administration and served time in prison

00:44:32 during that unbelievable chapter in American politics.

00:44:37 But I think that what he's saying here should be taken quite seriously.

00:44:40 Like, this kind of action is going to lead Canada down a very dangerous path.

00:44:45 What do you think?

00:44:47 Oh, big time.

00:44:48 And this is another reason why folks definitely need to read Carney's book if they can.

00:44:52 A carbon tax tariff, just to put it really simply,

00:44:55 would do exactly what Brian just explained.

00:44:57 We would look at another country, the United States.

00:45:00 our Prime Minister, if it is Mark Carney, would get upset that they don't have a carbon tax

00:45:06 because he sees this as a moral principle, okay? This is not just some economic thing for him.

00:45:11 It's all through his book that he sees this as a moral principle. So if a country doesn't have one,

00:45:17 a carbon tax, he gets upset by that. When we import stuff from that country, again,

00:45:23 imagine it's the United States, he would hit that object with a carbon tax tariff.

00:45:28 not only bungling up their trade, but making it more expensive for Canadians, again, to buy those

00:45:36 items. So not only is he going to hide the carbon tax and try to shield it from your bill, but you're

00:45:42 still paying it, he's going to create an entire new layer of one in the form of a carbon tax

00:45:47 tariff. So that was excellent that Brian got a chance to sit down with Bannon. And just for a

00:45:52 moment, in case there's any folks in the mainstream media watching this that are turning their nose

00:45:56 up at Steve Bannon, don't shoot the messenger. Be smart about this. Steve Bannon has worked

00:46:02 closely with US President Donald Trump, the guy that wants to tariff our country. Get smart about

00:46:08 it. Take the information from what he's saying very seriously here. I think that's such a good

00:46:14 point. And again, yeah, when Steve Bannon was on Global News last week, it really, you know,

00:46:21 Canadians really overreacted to it. I think that was the comment that Justin Trudeau made

00:46:25 at his economic summit where he said that Trump is serious about us becoming a 51st state and he

00:46:31 wants our minerals. I think it came directly from something that Bannon said. So I think it's a very

00:46:36 good idea to listen to this kind of thing. And rather than just assume that Mark Carney is the

00:46:41 best person to negotiate with Trump, I don't really think that it's pointing that way. I think

00:46:45 that they have such a mismatch in terms of their values, their ideology, and their approach to

00:46:50 governing, that it would be another Trudeau situation where Trump just doesn't have any

00:46:55 respect. He doesn't like the ideology. He's tired of it. And I think it could create more of a threat

00:47:02 to Canada. If I may, quickly, again, taking off my CTF hat and being a longtime journalist,

00:47:08 especially as a show host, you really need to actively listen to people and where they are

00:47:13 sometimes. And when it comes to trying to negotiate with someone like U.S. President Trump

00:47:17 or Vice President Vance, keep in mind their backgrounds. When they're saying stuff like

00:47:23 stop all the fentanyl coming into our country, yes, it goes bad ways, I know. But when they say

00:47:28 something like that, think of their backgrounds. What is U.S. President Trump's history with

00:47:33 substance abuse? His brother died from it. J.D. Vance was raised by a mother who was a severe

00:47:41 drug addict who, thank God, is clean now. These things shape these people's thinking.

00:47:46 So you at least need to keep that on your dashboard when you're trying to negotiate with these people and shield Canadians from a huge punishing tariff, which is just a trade tax.

00:47:57 Our hope is that cooler heads prevail and people like Premier Daniel Smith doing her work down there are able to find a diplomatic solution to this and we're able to avoid these tariffs.

00:48:08 I hope you're right. I really urge people to take your advice and to listen and think about where these people are coming from.

00:48:16 another clip we didn't get to in the show, but Mark Carney also said that he didn't think that

00:48:19 the fentanyl crisis was actually a crisis, speaking to that group in Kelowna. So again,

00:48:24 just missing the mark and not really on the same page here. Chris, thank you so much for your time.

00:48:29 It's always a pleasure to have you on the show. We really appreciate your time. It's Chris Sims

00:48:32 from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Thank you. All right, folks, that will wrap it up here

00:48:38 for today. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Candice Malcolm. This is the Candice Malcolm Show.

00:48:42 We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. Thank you and God bless.

00:48:46 Thank you.

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Juno News - February 18, 2025

Mark Carney CAUGHT lying

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