Candice Malan talks with Chris Sims, the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and former host of CFRA 580 Radio, about what it's like to work for the Toronto Sun. She also talks about the Delta Airlines plane crash at Toronto Pearson Airport, and talks about why independent journalism is so important.
00:00:00.000Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us.
00:00:11.920Hope everyone had a wonderful long weekend. I said on the show yesterday that it was family
00:00:16.600day in Ontario and Alberta. One of the viewers let me know that they also celebrate it in British
00:00:22.480Columbia, which I am embarrassed to say I didn't know. I'm from British Columbia, but it was
00:00:26.120definitely not a thing when I was growing up. So hope everyone had a wonderful long weekend.
00:00:30.260We've got a lot of news to get to today. I want to really get in to Mark Carney because the more
00:00:35.160that we see from Mr. Carney, the more that we get to know him as a personality, as a leader,
00:00:40.300the more things start to fall apart, the more his claims don't add up. We're starting to see
00:00:45.480many contradictions, the two sides of Mark Carney. We have bait and switches and sleight of hands to
00:00:52.060try to confuse you, to try to sort of speak over your head, to make you think that he's going to
00:00:57.000do good things for the country, that he's going to balance the budget, that he's going to get
00:01:00.080pipeline built. But then at the same time, he's basically saying the exact opposite. So we are
00:01:04.680going to go through it all and show you the real side of Mark Carney. My guest on the show today
00:01:10.480is Chris Sims, the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. She is a longtime
00:01:16.040journalist, former host of CFRA 580 Radio. And back in the day, we worked together at the Sun
00:01:22.620News Network. Chris, thank you so much for joining the show. Great to be with you. Thanks, Candice.
00:01:27.560You were the one that pointed out to me that we launched Juno News on the 10-year anniversary of
00:01:32.340the end of Sun News. You were there from the very beginning of Sun, right till the very end. I know
00:01:37.620it was very sort of bittersweet when that ended. But I think, you know, given what is happening in
00:01:44.580the Canadian media landscape. Like there's so many independent voices. There's so many thriving
00:01:48.640journalists who are seeking to tell the other side of the story, even though it was, you know,
00:01:53.020we've been through some hard times as conservatives, independent conservative journalists or just
00:01:58.240independent journalists. I think that the situation today is much better. What do you think?
00:02:03.600It is. It was really hard that day. And I did think that you had picked the day on purpose
00:02:08.280because it was the 10th anniversary. So that was quite serendipitous. But out of Sun News Network's
00:02:13.240ashes, as you so rightly put it on X. We saw True North start. We saw Rebel News start. We saw so
00:02:20.000many of our contributors go to start up the Western Standard. And then we saw folks like, you know,
00:02:25.420Paige McPherson go over to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. She's now with Frasier. And our former
00:02:29.960colleague Brian Lilly is still with Sun because he's technically with the paper. But of course,
00:02:35.320Brian does excellent video interviews as well. Just landed one with Steve Bannon when he was
00:02:40.240down in D.C. So in many ways, Sun News Network lives on. We're just a gestalt now.
00:02:46.680Yeah, we're going to get to that Brian Lilly interview with Steve Bannon later in the show,
00:02:50.740because I really think it raises some interesting points that the rest of the media leave out. And
00:02:55.520that's the point of independent media and even, you know, voices in the establishment like Brian
00:03:00.520Lilly is with the Toronto Sun, but he's still willing to go places that most journalists aren't.
00:03:05.160Chris, I want to start the show by talking about this unbelievable footage that came out of Toronto
00:03:09.660Pearson Airport yesterday. So this is sort of like the worst nightmare for us who travel and
00:03:14.660get on planes with some frequency. A Delta Airlines plane crash landed at Toronto Pearson amid
00:03:20.680fiercely cold and very wild winter weather. So Sean, if we can put up images of what that looks
00:03:27.500like as B-roll here, but the Delta Airlines flight, you can just see this new clip that came
00:03:33.620out, you can see it going down and basically hitting ice, sliding and turning into a ball of
00:03:40.880flames. Just absolutely terrifying footage there because you could see the plane was going down as
00:03:52.980normal about to land when I don't know exactly what happened. It just seemed like it hit the
00:03:57.440ground, turned into a flame, a ball of flames. It's unbelievable that nobody was, nobody was
00:04:03.200killed. We have reports of at least eight people were seriously injured, including one person in
00:04:08.740critical condition. A child as well was sustained injuries. Let's go on to show the next video,
00:04:14.260because basically the plane then landed upside down. And you can see people climbing out of
00:04:19.420the plane here while they're working to put out the fire. And you can just see the absolutely
00:04:25.580treacherous runway and the snow on the ground there, the frigid, cold, icy temperatures in
00:04:34.700Toronto. But, you know, it's unbelievable because, you know, I was talking to a friend who's not from
00:04:41.220Toronto and she said, you know, is this normal? Like, isn't the runway like this every year
00:04:47.400around this time? And I said, yeah, I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. I've
00:04:51.220never seen a plane land on ice and flip like that. I mean, it's given how much fuel and gasoline are
00:04:57.660in these planes. It is remarkable. It didn't just burst into a bigger ball of flame and that people
00:05:03.300not only that anybody survived that, but that everybody survived it is an absolute miracle.
00:05:08.880Chris, what do you think? It is a miracle. The footage from inside the plane where the person's
00:05:14.480walking on the ceiling that I'm sure most people have seen. Yeah, I think we have that as well. So
00:05:20.520can see the plane is upside down they're walking and coming out they're being told to put their
00:05:23.960phones away um sorry to interrupt you chris no no it's just it's so remarkable and look there
00:05:29.320see above it that charred black thing that clearly looks like the wing part that ripped off when the
00:05:34.840thing flipped over it's it's astonishing um i just my heart went into my throat when i saw what was
00:05:41.000happening on x and it was breaking it's a miracle people survived this i pray for the people who
00:05:46.680are in critical condition. And I think it starts bringing up stories of people who have been in
00:05:52.680situations that have been scary on a flight. There was a flight that was landing once. It was my
00:05:57.480whole family. We were landing in Calgary. I'll never forget it. The stewardess screamed. People
00:06:02.760were sobbing and throwing up. The pilot bailed on the landing at the last second and cranked
00:06:08.520the plane almost into a vertical. It was so frightening. And everybody thought this is it.
00:06:15.320everybody thought this is it and thank god the pilot was able to circle and land safely but if
00:06:22.040you looked out the south window candace landing in calgary from bc so you're looking south pitch
00:06:28.520black you look up the north bright sunny day so there were some crazy weather pattern that
00:06:34.840was coming in with these freak wind storms that caused this um thankfully we all got off the plane
00:06:40.280safely a lot of people went straight to the bar after they got into the airport but it's just
00:06:46.680remarkable that these folks are going to be okay we hope um and look how quickly the emergency
00:06:51.560services got there it looks like they were on them right away so it was quite something seeing
00:06:56.440that yesterday wow um what a scary moment i think we've all kind of had tense moments up in the sky
00:07:02.280like that and really just just uh sobering to see so many incidents already this year in 2025
00:07:10.120of horrible tragedies and and i think we're just so lucky um that we didn't have anything more
00:07:16.600serious yesterday and it reminds you you know when you're when you're about to land you think okay
00:07:21.400i'm safe we're here right and it was like you know sometimes people might take their seat belts off
00:07:26.200or get ready to stand up a little too early those might have been the people that got injured because
00:07:30.520you know the plane ended up upside down so your seat belt would have been the only thing holding
00:07:34.040you in and i know for myself usually when i'm flying i'm holding a baby right because the baby
00:07:38.200doesn't have their own seat so imagine if you're holding a baby you have a child next to you you
00:07:42.280could imagine uh just just how scary that was but again uh tremendous work from the first responders
00:07:48.520there in toronto to to ensure that there were no injuries that people were out safely before
00:07:53.560you know something worse could have happened like the plane uh caught fire so a pretty scary story
00:07:58.600But again, fortunate that nothing happened. I want to move on to talk a little bit about Mark Carney, because there was an explosive interview that he did on CBC News on Sunday night with Rosemary Barton.
00:08:08.700Now, I know a lot of people in the independent and conservative circles accuse Rosemary Barton of not being a very good journalist and being quite biased, especially towards Justin Trudeau.
00:08:16.820I actually thought she did a tremendous job in this interview with Mark Carney to the point where he wasn't really prepared for it, because I think he thought it was going to be an easy softball interview.
00:08:26.560and you can kind of see the mask start to slip when she presses him and asks him some tough
00:08:31.400questions. So I'm going to play this clip where Rosemary Barton, sure she's polite, but she's firm
00:08:35.600and she asks him to describe what makes Carney different than Trudeau. Now I just want to point
00:08:41.400out a few things before we play the clip. Note how he responds and how he looks. You can see that
00:08:46.240he's getting a little annoyed, agitated. The differences that he describes are incredibly
00:08:51.580superficial. Like he didn't have a good answer for how he's different than Trudeau. He goes
00:08:55.620straight to the most superficial things we were born in different places and we play different
00:08:59.300sports which you know to the canadian public it's like okay uh that's not very substantive um and
00:09:05.540and then he's so nervous in this response chris that he actually spills his cup of water his arms
00:09:11.620are flailing and he knocks over a glass of water and you can see that the shot goes to rosemary
00:09:17.700barton and she's looking a little surprised by how uncomfortable he is over what should be a super
00:09:22.100straightforward question. OK, so let's play that clip and then I'll get your reaction to it.
00:09:26.660Why should Canadians believe you'll do anything differently, though, than Justin Trudeau?
00:09:32.180You've advised him. You've given him advice. You've been a liberal. So what is going to be
00:09:37.380markedly different? We're very different people, Prime Minister and I. We have different backgrounds.
00:09:41.860I was born in Northwest Territories. He was born in Rideau Hall. You know, I'm a hockey goalie.
00:09:47.540he's a snowboarder. I focus on the economy. He has had a different focus for Canada. I think we
00:09:55.820have the same values and we're trying to achieve the same ends. So they have the same values trying
00:10:01.060to achieve the same ends, but... Bang. And I'm sorry, but the fact that he's a hockey goalie
00:10:07.920and that Justin Trudeau is a snowboarder, is that supposed to illustrate anything of depth
00:10:11.780that shows us the difference between these two men? Those are pretty similar things. I mean,
00:10:15.320yeah, they're different sports, but they're both winter sports. And like when I think of Mark
00:10:18.740Kearney, I don't think he's personified as a hockey goalie. That's just like a side thing
00:10:23.400that he happened to do. Same with Justin Trudeau and snowboarding. So I really thought that that
00:10:27.360was a terrible answer. What did you think, Chris? Yeah, it was interesting. So journalists, no
00:10:34.060matter where they're from, as you always say, we need to hold politicians to account. We need to
00:10:39.700hold the powerful to account. It's our job quite often to get them on record. So you ask them tough
00:10:45.020questions, you get them to commit to things or not out loud with their faces. The issue should
00:10:51.020be no different if it's on the CBC. Now, of course, taxpayers shouldn't pay for the CBC,
00:10:55.580but it's very good that she pushed him on this. And it's a really simple push. I mean, come on.
00:11:01.720He was clearly an advisor for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Everybody who's in the arena
00:11:07.100knows this. He should have known she was going to ask him a question like that. And he should
00:11:11.980have been better prepared. What I find frustrating though, Candace, is we get hundreds, in some
00:11:18.360cases, thousands of letters from supporters who are really fighting to make ends meet. Like 50%
00:11:25.900of Canadians are broke, meaning they're within 200 bucks every month of not being able to make
00:11:31.480the minimum payments on their bills. And here we get this banal chit chat difference between hockey
00:11:38.380goalies and snowboarders, like who cares what taxpayers and what a lot of hardworking Canadians
00:11:45.200care about is how are you going to make my life different? And when it comes to Carney, boy, oh
00:11:50.700boy, between his announcements that he's made on the carbon taxes, and his story keeps changing and
00:11:56.820shifting on that, and his book that he just wrote in the teeth of the lockdown, it was published in
00:12:02.8002021. There's some really alarming things here for people. And so these sort of things, I find
00:12:08.320it telling, and I really appreciate your point in him knocking the water and stuff. So you kind of
00:12:12.680get more into his head and see how prepped he is. But when it comes to the substance, these
00:12:17.820journalists have got to chase this guy down and stick a mic in his face. Well, the whole pitch
00:12:22.920about Mark Carney, I believe, is that he's this calm, stable hand, that he has had all of this
00:12:27.500experience, that he knows what he's doing. He's an elite. He's an expert. I mean, for goodness
00:12:31.780sakes he said i'm a globalist and an elitist and that's exactly what canada needs right
00:12:36.420uh so so given that his persona is supposed to be calm and cool and collected i really thought that
00:12:40.740him knocking the water over like that was was something because that didn't really show me
00:12:45.620that he's a calm collective guy i want to get a little bit more into some of the misleading claims
00:12:49.700that we have caught him saying two things at a different sides of his mouth this happens a lot
00:12:54.900in canada where a politician will say one thing in one part of the country and then they'll say
00:12:59.060something totally different in another part of the country so here's here's the first example of it
00:13:04.020i have two for us on the show today but uh last wednesday mark carney was speaking in kelowna bc
00:13:09.700and one of the things that he pledged was that he was going to cut government spending and that he
00:13:14.260was going to balance the budget chris within three years now those of us who pay close attention know
00:13:18.820that even the conservatives aren't promising that because justin trudeau has blown out the budget
00:13:23.780so much because he's operating a 61 billion dollar deficit racked up over a trillion dollars in debt
00:13:29.220now 1.2 trillion in the latest uh glance it's going to be really hard to cut the budget and
00:13:34.180get it balanced because you're going to have to get rid of a lot so to hear mark carney say i'm
00:13:38.260going to balance in three years it's like wow he must be a real committed fiscal conservative so
00:13:42.820here is a clip of him from wednesday february 20 uh 12 2025 saying that he will balance the budget
00:13:48.660we need a government that spends less but gets the country to invest more
00:13:55.460so my government will balance the spending budget within the first three years
00:14:00.280so uh just to point out notice how the crowd applauds right even liberal supporters
00:14:07.720know that canada is in big trouble fiscally because of justin trudeau so the fact that
00:14:12.440he would balance the budget is big news and so you had the wall street journal uh this is the
00:14:16.940headline that they ran, ex-central banker Mark Carney pledges to return to balance budgets
00:14:21.600within three years, pointing out the last time we had a budget surplus was in 2007, 2008. And so
00:14:30.040interesting, that's a big announcement from Mark Carney. But then when he was on with Rosemary
00:14:35.100Barton, Chris, he changed his tune because he was asked a specific question, will you balance the
00:14:40.420budget? And rather than just repeating what he said in Kelowna, that yes, I'll balance the budget,
00:14:44.220He gets into these minute details that really tell us that, no, actually, he's not going to balance the budget, not even remotely.
00:14:51.620He wants to invest and invest and invest, which is politician speak for borrowing and spending more money.
00:14:57.720So let's play this clip of him with Rosemary Barton on Sunday night.
00:15:01.420Will you balance the budget and how quickly?
00:15:29.580It is a fundamental difference between the approach the government has taken up until now.
00:15:34.560It is a fundamental difference between the approach of Pierre Polyev,
00:15:38.300which is a trickle-down, lit a thousand flowers.
00:15:41.120There will be a deficit. It'll just be, it'll justify it because it's investing in the economy, is that?
00:15:46.840Investing in the economy at a time when we absolutely have to build as a country.
00:15:53.200So, Chris, I just want to quickly read from Campbell Clark in the Globe and Mail because he caught this and said, wait a minute, what he's saying isn't adding up here.
00:16:01.440So here is the Globe and Mail. Mark Carney has a different idea of budget discipline, talks about the Wall Street Journal and the fact that he said he would balance budget.
00:16:11.020he writes, but that's not what Mr. Carney meant. He was talking about splitting the budget into two
00:16:16.500and balancing one part. That's not the same as eliminating the deficit, but it does tell us a
00:16:21.420lot about Mr. Carney and his approach to the country's finances. So it says, for the record,
00:16:25.740the Wall Street Journal didn't misquote him. Mr. Carney did indeed tell a crowd at a leadership
00:16:29.800campaign in Kelowna last week that my government will balance the budget within three years.
00:16:34.580The reason, though, it's misleading because this idea that he's going to say we have an operating
00:16:39.980budget, which is the spending on all of the things that we have to spend on, like the salaries of
00:16:46.420bureaucrats, the direct transfers to Canadians, the direct transfers of province. But then we'll
00:16:50.360create a separate budget for all of our investments that we want to make, including, you know, he's
00:16:55.840already pledged that he's going to increase Canada's military to get to the 2% NATO target.
00:17:00.920He wants to build infrastructure. He wants to put money back into the Canadian economy. So this is
00:17:06.720just a total sleight of hand what do you think oh it's a huge sleight of hand and it's one of the
00:17:11.940older tricks in the book of politicians who like to play fast and loose with numbers so here in
00:17:17.540Alberta there was one instance where we had a provincial government that tried to split the
00:17:22.820budget some of my colleagues at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation said that they had to
00:17:27.420create spreadsheets with like 30 rows in them with a few different columns to enter all of the
00:17:33.240spending data points, just to figure out how big their stupid deficit was.
00:17:37.980And at the municipal level, I run into this all the time.
00:17:41.460So for example, in Calgary, they changed the way their accounting
00:17:45.480works around 2012, which was really shifty.
00:17:48.840They try to separate their operating versus their capital budget.
00:18:31.420We are spending more money on interest on our debt than we are on health transfers to the provinces, meaning more than we spend on health care.
00:18:48.060When a politician's lips are moving and they say we're going to invest, they're taking your money.
00:18:53.220They're spending taxpayers money and they're printing more of it often, too, which helps cause inflation to be worse.
00:18:59.340So this is a really good catch. I'm glad that he tried to say that to the room of folks, normal
00:19:06.140folks in Kelowna. Notice how he didn't try to explain what he meant when he just said that to
00:19:10.460the folks in Kelowna. But when he was suddenly in front of a journalist, he had to try to explain
00:19:15.020himself. This is why I'm encouraging every journalist, don't care which outlet it is,
00:19:19.820chase this guy down, get him on the record, because the more you peel back this onion,
00:19:24.380the more it stinks. Well, and that's not the only lie that we caught him in, because at that same
00:19:29.500press conference or that same, sorry, that same rally in Kelowna, this clip came out and kind of
00:19:35.140went viral because it had a lot of Canadians concerned. Mark Carney boasting and bragging
00:19:40.240about how he was going to use the emergency powers. Now, anytime you hear that, you know,
00:19:45.100anyone who was involved in the trucker convoy or even just watching those events unfold in 2022
00:19:50.360knows that the Emergencies Act, the Emergencies Power, was used illegally against protesters,
00:19:56.260lawful protesters. And basically, it's the modern-day equivalent of martial law,
00:20:01.500the idea that you unleash the military against peaceful protesters. So I'm going to play this
00:20:07.600clip. This was, again, that same campaign stop in Kelowna, British Columbia, Mark Carney telling
00:20:11.440the crowd that he will use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency
00:20:16.080powers to accelerate major projects. Let's play that clip. And something that my government is
00:20:22.000going to do is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency
00:20:26.860powers of the federal government, to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build
00:20:32.780this economy and take on the Americans. So in the context of the looming trade war,
00:20:40.880President Trump's threats about a tariff, we kind of start to hear the same song from all
00:20:45.700the politicians that okay now's the time to roll up our sleeves and start building out the economy
00:20:49.940doing things that probably chris should have been done decades ago um including major pipelines
00:20:54.180right so he is saying you know we're gonna we're gonna use the emergencies act if possible he
00:20:59.940he literally says we'll use all of the powers of the federal government so again that's the folks
00:21:04.260in british columbia last wednesday but then last night mark carney was on french cbc radio canada
00:21:10.980and he was asked specifically about whether he would push pipelines because you would think one
00:21:17.880of the things that would be needed to meet the threat from tariffs from the Americans is we need
00:21:23.500to be able to get our pipelines and our oil to markets, including on the East Coast, including
00:21:27.760the Energy East pipeline. That's one of the major things that we need that has been stalled and
00:21:32.680blocked by the Liberal government. And he was specifically asked about this. Now, I have the
00:21:37.160clip. It's in French. So I think probably better to just read what he says. And then Sean, you can
00:21:42.720show the clip to the viewers, but I'll read what is said here. So the interviewer last night, this
00:21:47.840is in French. You can just mute the sound there, Sean. So this is what it looked like. And the
00:21:53.640interviewer says, but you would never impose a pipeline on Quebec or any other province. And
00:21:58.340Mark Carney says, I would never impose. Roy says, never. Carney says, never. And then Roy asks,
00:22:04.160emergency legislation. Carney goes on, he says, but I will use my government. If I were prime
00:22:08.860minister, my government would use our emergency powers to accelerate projects that are in the
00:22:12.820national interest. Roy goes, okay. Carney continues, he says, but it has to be decided
00:22:17.900with the provinces, with the nations. Roy asks, okay, so if a province says no, you're not putting
00:22:23.260any pipelines through. Carney says, absolutely. Roy asks, you don't impose it? Carney says,
00:22:28.520never in Quebec. So to the Quebec audience, he's saying never a pipeline. No, I won't use it. I
00:22:35.200won't do the emergency powers. But then speaking to the rest of the country in English, he's happy
00:22:39.460to say, we'll use everything we can, every piece of power. To me, this is just so typical of
00:22:46.200Canadian politicians speaking different messages in different languages. It just drives me crazy.
00:22:50.920What do you think? It happens way too often. This is one of the more stark examples that I can
00:22:56.240remember seeing in a long time. And it's pretty clear, like most Canadians who have at least
00:23:01.320taken some French in school, know jamais means never. Like you can see just the headline there,
00:23:06.400what he's saying, which is pretty unsettling. And back to your point of what he said to the
00:23:10.780Kelowna, the Kelowna crowd, him saying emergency powers, does that mean the Emergencies Act? And
00:23:16.680to your point exactly, that is the current incarnation of the War Measures Act. And that
00:23:20.720That was something the federal court said.
00:23:23.140The Trudeau government was wrong to impose on Canadians.
00:23:28.000And keep in mind, it's not just, of course, the protesters who might be on the ground
00:23:31.620for whatever reason that they're there for.
00:23:33.360In that case, it was the trucker convoy.
00:23:35.600But it suspends, essentially, the free expression of all Canadians at that time.
00:23:41.620You're under martial law, as you described it.
00:23:44.320That's a pretty harrowing thing when you start thinking about it of, oh, if I speak
00:23:49.480up and i try to hold my government to account which is a huge role for the canadian taxpayers
00:23:54.680federation will i get my bank account frozen talk about a chill on free expression that is not okay
00:24:02.600and so to hear that kind of thrown out there in the context of a pipeline which you're right we
00:24:07.000should have had this built 10 years ago it's absurd we do not have a national east west coast to coast
00:24:12.760pipeline for our own energy in canada it's rather embarrassing when you start thinking about it
00:24:17.800And then to have him turn around and say, en français, au jamais, I would never do that.
00:24:23.160Again, he has to be held to account for this. I would say the same thing
00:24:27.160if this were a conservative politician pulling this or an NDP politician pulling this.
00:24:31.880And it's really important for taxpayers to understand that we are losing out on tens
00:24:37.240of billions of dollars just in federal tax revenue by not having proper pipelines in Canada
00:24:47.000and the ability to get our energy out to market we're not even calculating the municipal property
00:24:52.920taxes that are actually generated from these pipeline corridors it is an astonishing amount
00:24:57.960of money that we are throwing away down the drain and it's also according to my more financial
00:25:03.400friends scaring away a ton of investment by not having a really smart energy policy in canada
00:25:09.640and i would encourage anybody to read mark carney's book it's called values it literally on the front
00:25:16.120cover, has the planet Earth with a bunch of scaffolding around it, as if it's being reshaped
00:25:21.680or rebuilt. And he gets right into how he feels about pipelines and natural resources. He says
00:25:29.580in his book that apparently we need to keep 80% of our oil and gas in the ground and that he wants
00:25:36.560to electrify everything. What does he mean by everything? It sounds like everything. With what
00:25:41.940kind of power? Solar and wind, according to his book. So there are some hard questions that have
00:25:48.300to be asked of this guy. Unbelievable. I think that I did a deep dive on that book with Cosman
00:25:54.300Georgia, a journalist at True North, who has been going through, I mean, so many of the things that
00:25:58.160you mentioned, the digital currency, the idea that it was Mark Carney who was encouraging the
00:26:02.540government to freeze bank accounts. He wrote it in the Globe and Mail in an op-ed saying this is
00:26:07.300sedition. This is a dangerous, scary person. In that interview with Rosemary Barton, he's sort of
00:26:13.080trying to walk back the idea of the carbon tax saying, no, we'll just impose it on the big
00:26:16.980polluters instead. Rosemary Barton rightly says, well, aren't they just going to pass it on to the
00:26:21.300consumers? Like if you're a big company and all of a sudden you're getting levied with huge fines
00:26:25.380from the government, you don't just get that money out of thin air. You have to charge your
00:26:29.500customers more. That's basic economics. And again, Carney just doesn't really have a good answer for
00:26:35.200I think that to your point, you know, the role of journalists is to ask questions.
00:26:39.220I'm glad that the CBC in French were asking those questions.
00:26:42.480I wish that they had pulled up the clip of him from Kelowna saying, but you just said
00:26:46.620that you would use all the powers of the federal government, including emergency powers to
00:26:51.140get, you know, to build infrastructure to combat these tariffs.
00:26:55.860And yet I don't I don't understand how Quebec can have a veto, Chris.
00:26:59.920It's frustrating because right now the only way that eastern Canada gets its oil, central
00:27:04.100Canada gets its oil is through a pipeline in the United States. So having a trade war with the
00:27:08.000Americans, it really begs the question, like, will that oil even be able to get through? And then
00:27:13.100what would happen to Central Canada? Right now, Canada already imports oil from Saudi Arabia
00:27:17.180and Nigeria. I can only imagine what we'd have to do if all of a sudden the oil couldn't get across
00:27:23.720from Alberta because of these pipelines. It's really... Imagine that the natural gas pipeline
00:27:30.200that supplies heat to your own house runs through your neighbor's property. Like not underground,
00:27:37.280so there's some weird trick or anything, but like above ground, let's for argument's sake,
00:27:40.400it just runs across there. How fun would that be as your neighbor changes moods or changes tactics?
00:27:46.360Like this is crazy. To your point on the Kelowna interview and shout out to Castanet,
00:27:51.660which is a scrappy little media organization that covers a lot of good news in the Okanagan region.
00:27:56.360That was their footage that that we've gotten these clips from.
00:28:00.380They do great work. And the other element there, if I can, Candace, where he brings it back down to the carbon tax again.
00:28:07.320He says that he won't axe the tax and everybody laughed in the room and he kind of snickered.
00:28:13.660So he sees the idea of completely canceling the carbon tax as some joke.
00:28:17.880Then he says, I would change the carbon tax. That's a huge difference.
00:28:22.960You were getting to the point of how even the CBC is saying, won't that cost just trickle down to the normal person? Short answer, yes, of course it will. We just got a poll back, Candice. Only 12% of Canadians believe Mark Carney when he says, oh no, normal people won't feel the cost of the carbon tax. Magically, these big businesses will just eat the cost. Only 12% of Canadians believe that line.
00:28:49.940So that was very encouraging that people know that if you dump a huge carbon tax on a refinery, so your gasoline and diesel will go up in cost because of the carbon tax.
00:29:01.460They understand that. They understand that if Carney nails a utility company like your home heating with a carbon tax, your heating bill will go up higher.
00:29:10.560And so it's really encouraging to know that Canadians are seeing through this.
00:29:14.580Absolutely, Chris. OK, I want to shift gears a little bit to talk about the Ontario election.
00:29:18.700Yes, there's an election going on in Ontario. There was a leaders debate last night. And I don't even want to play the clip because it's just so bad. Like the candidates running in this election are not very good. I think Doug Ford will walk away with a big majority. But basically, the idea when you watch one of these leadership debates is that everything is a crisis. Everything requires more government, no matter what, whether it's healthcare, whether it's housing, whether it's crime, whether it's traffic problems, every single politician, including
00:29:48.680the conservative Doug Ford, his solution is always more government, which is just kind of sad.
00:29:54.160I want to talk a little bit about a moment that caused a lot of stir online and I think among
00:29:59.280Canadians because the night that the campaign launched, this is back in late January, Doug Ford
00:30:05.300was on camera speaking in London, Ontario to a police chief gala. And he said that he believes
00:30:12.100in the death penalty, that he thinks that someone who breaks into someone's home and kills somebody,
00:30:17.240kills an innocent person he wrote he said should be sent right to sparky uh an allusion to the
00:30:23.480electric chair uh we have that clip i want to play it now you know someone breaks in your house uses
00:30:30.040a gun 10 years automatic they discharge that gun to get 15 years automatic god forbid they shoot
00:30:41.000someone and they survive 20 years automatic and god forbid they kill an innocent person
00:30:49.800i don't even go 25 years i send them right to sparky and we'll take care of everything from
00:30:54.280there so you can see uh well it's actually interesting chris because you can see in that
00:31:00.120clip uh for the listening audience he's speaking at a lectern and he actually has um you you can
00:31:06.600see as teleprompters up so he's giving a speech presumably reading off a teleprompter uh might
00:31:11.960have been ad-libbing that one part where he says we forget about 25 years you should send them
00:31:16.280straight to sparky well his campaign has clarified and they're now walking that back even though i
00:31:21.720think that a lot of people online were excited about that uh he now walks back this thing just
00:31:27.880saying it was a joke and it was in poor taste but this is a real problem chris i i raised this in my
00:31:33.800interview that i did last week with pierre polyev this idea that there are home invasions across the
00:31:39.000gta happening almost every single night it's terrifying for families from others there's a
00:31:43.880clip that was circulating just the other day of a home invasion in mississauga this is a video of
00:31:49.000three men breaking into a house and a mom with a baseball bat chasing these men out of the house
00:31:55.000apparently she had her children sleeping upstairs i want to play this clip for you this is happening
00:32:01.320every single day the family sent me this video so canadians can be aware of what's happening so
00:32:06.360the father comes you can see they start throwing a whole bunch of objects at him look at this
00:32:11.080now the mother has come look at this with a bat to scare these thugs away this mother is a true
00:32:16.680hero look at this no fear you can see she's screaming at them getting them out of here
00:32:21.320this is crazy what's happening the fact that we have to put our families our mothers our children
00:32:26.920in this situation it's unbelievable i don't know if that's happening out in alberta but i hear about
00:32:32.680this all the time in in toronto and in the gta mississauga is just a suburb here it happens all
00:32:38.840the time it's such a large part of it is this revolving door prison system that doug ford was
00:32:44.280alluding to there that we need hard minimums on crime i saw this story i want to tie it in as well
00:32:50.440um the via rail terrorist so i don't know if you remember but back in i think it was 2015
00:32:56.360These two individuals, one a Palestinian and the other one from Tunisia, were planning a terrorist
00:33:02.040attack to derail a train heading from Toronto to New York City. They had a plan in the works. They
00:33:07.640had gone and taken steps. They were found guilty by a Canadian court. This one individual from
00:33:13.640Tunisia is supposed to be deported, but we learned on Friday that the judge is delaying the deportation
00:33:21.320issue due to mental health concerns so the judge wrote i find a real risk of serious mental harm
00:33:28.040on the basis of evidence from this individual's treating psychologist wrote the judge the court
00:33:33.960heard from the psychologist saying that basically because of his um a prognosis of medical fragility
00:33:41.880um that he that he shouldn't be sent back to his home country he shouldn't be deported instead he
00:33:47.720should stay in a canadian prison to me this makes such a mockery of our systems like someone can
00:33:53.560come from another country plan to mass murder canadians take steps to mass murder canadians
00:33:58.040this guy was here on a student visa he is a phd student so he's not he's not some dummy right he's
00:34:03.960an intelligent person um and basically decided to try to plan a terrorist attack against canadians
00:34:10.600fortunately because of the work of canadian police he was stopped the attack was thwarted
00:34:15.320but still we won't even send him home because we're worried about his mental fragility it's
00:34:19.160just unbelievable to me chris what do you make of all this well i will say at the taxpayers
00:34:24.200federation we often ask people what they think the role of government should be or what they think
00:34:28.680their money should be spent on and generally speaking quite often safety public safety in
00:34:34.840the sense of police catching bad guys keeping criminals away from your house stopping horrific
00:34:40.680footage like you just saw there with the mother running with a baseball bat those usually rank
00:34:45.080pretty high when it comes to what things government should be spending good money on.
00:34:50.300But the issue is getting good results. So if it were something a bit more simple,
00:34:54.800like some silly foreign trip, we would ask the question, are you getting good return on your
00:34:59.600money? Is this good value for taxpayers' dollars? And logically, the answer in many cases when it
00:35:06.820comes to the criminal justice system now is no. Because if you listen to police who often tell us,
00:35:13.320for example, that they are constantly dealing with illegal guns coming across the United States
00:35:18.280border when it comes to gangbangers and criminals and not coming from law-abiding firearms owners,
00:35:23.960which the Trudeau government is attacking. We hear that from cops all the time.
00:35:27.640And taking off my CTF hat, one of my main roles as a journalist was being a court reporter. So I
00:35:35.240would sit there day after day covering the criminal justice system. I've worked very closely with some
00:35:40.600folks in law enforcement so yeah it's very clear that there is a revolving door system there's what
00:35:46.840they often refer to as catch and release catch and release my numbers are a little off but generally
00:35:52.840speaking i think it's about 60 criminals in the vancouver area committing about a thousand crimes
00:36:00.120or probably more basically saying a very tiny pool of people are committing most of these crimes
00:36:07.240including some violent crimes all of them all of them it's a tiny fraction of the population
00:36:13.560that are constantly doing this and a lot of people have heard of a general answer coming
00:36:18.120from police saying i can catch somebody doing something awful in the morning and he's back
00:36:23.240out on the street in the afternoon before that cop shift is over so if you keep on doing it
00:36:29.160keep in mind i want people to imagine apart from obviously the danger to yourself but if you remove
00:36:34.920yourself and just look at this from a monetary issue picture a cash register every time these
00:36:40.440people are brought into the system and let out ching ching ching ching it is costing a ton of
00:36:45.000money every single time they're doing this and i gotta ask them are you getting a good return on
00:36:50.040your investment here i think most of the time people will say no because a lot of people feel
00:36:55.240that crime is going up and they're feeling less safe even in smaller cities and towns now well
00:37:00.840Well, there's data to back this up. So True North reporting that Canada experienced faster rise in
00:37:06.460property and violent crime in the United States. This is based on a Fraser Institute study comparing
00:37:11.480violent crime rates in Canadian cities versus American cities over the last 20 years. So the
00:37:17.180report found that since 2014, Canadian cities have seen a 40% increase in violent crime, whereas in
00:37:24.380the same period, the United States just saw a 7% increase. So to be fair, the violent crime rate in
00:37:29.500Canada went from 148 per 100,000 to 258 per 100,000, while in the United States went from 313
00:37:37.140to 335. So Canadian cities on balance are still safer, but that rise in crime is happening. And
00:37:43.340it looks like sooner or later, we will catch up to the Americans, given what's happening in our
00:37:48.620cities. Okay, I want to change gears a little bit here, Chris, and talk about the absolute waste
00:37:54.800that we see in the Canadian government. Sometimes it's like the little things that, you know, you
00:37:59.820hear about a $20 billion, you know, green slush fund or whatever, and it's hard to really make
00:38:04.940sense of what that even means. But then you see something small, like $5,000 going to subsidize
00:38:11.320a big corporation or something like that. And that's the one that really, really drives you
00:38:14.520crazy. There's this video on X. So the international trade minister, Mary Ng,
00:38:20.580posted this clip of herself alongside 220 Canadian bureaucrats on a diplomatic trade
00:38:28.020mission to Australia. Look at that beautiful image. Those are all Canadian bureaucrats
00:38:33.220outside the beautiful Sydney Opera House in beautiful Sydney, Australia in February.
00:38:38.760Wouldn't you rather be in the middle of Australian summer as opposed to the treacherous
00:38:43.560winter conditions that we just showed in Toronto? So somehow this is good value for our money,
00:38:49.520trying to send a trade delegation to Australia in the middle of their summer.
00:38:54.380I don't understand why this stuff happens.
00:44:48.180And this is another reason why folks definitely need to read Carney's book if they can.
00:44:52.220A carbon tax tariff, just to put it really simply,
00:44:55.200would do exactly what Brian just explained.
00:44:57.400We would look at another country, the United States.
00:45:00.100our Prime Minister, if it is Mark Carney, would get upset that they don't have a carbon tax
00:45:06.040because he sees this as a moral principle, okay? This is not just some economic thing for him.
00:45:11.740It's all through his book that he sees this as a moral principle. So if a country doesn't have one,
00:45:17.960a carbon tax, he gets upset by that. When we import stuff from that country, again,
00:45:23.720imagine it's the United States, he would hit that object with a carbon tax tariff.
00:45:28.620not only bungling up their trade, but making it more expensive for Canadians, again, to buy those
00:45:36.420items. So not only is he going to hide the carbon tax and try to shield it from your bill, but you're
00:45:42.200still paying it, he's going to create an entire new layer of one in the form of a carbon tax
00:45:47.480tariff. So that was excellent that Brian got a chance to sit down with Bannon. And just for a
00:45:52.580moment, in case there's any folks in the mainstream media watching this that are turning their nose
00:45:56.420up at Steve Bannon, don't shoot the messenger. Be smart about this. Steve Bannon has worked
00:46:02.260closely with US President Donald Trump, the guy that wants to tariff our country. Get smart about
00:46:08.620it. Take the information from what he's saying very seriously here. I think that's such a good
00:46:14.420point. And again, yeah, when Steve Bannon was on Global News last week, it really, you know,
00:46:21.100Canadians really overreacted to it. I think that was the comment that Justin Trudeau made
00:46:25.900at his economic summit where he said that Trump is serious about us becoming a 51st state and he
00:46:31.720wants our minerals. I think it came directly from something that Bannon said. So I think it's a very
00:46:36.520good idea to listen to this kind of thing. And rather than just assume that Mark Carney is the
00:46:41.920best person to negotiate with Trump, I don't really think that it's pointing that way. I think
00:46:45.540that they have such a mismatch in terms of their values, their ideology, and their approach to
00:46:50.080governing, that it would be another Trudeau situation where Trump just doesn't have any
00:46:55.600respect. He doesn't like the ideology. He's tired of it. And I think it could create more of a threat
00:47:02.280to Canada. If I may, quickly, again, taking off my CTF hat and being a longtime journalist,
00:47:08.400especially as a show host, you really need to actively listen to people and where they are
00:47:13.380sometimes. And when it comes to trying to negotiate with someone like U.S. President Trump
00:47:17.980or Vice President Vance, keep in mind their backgrounds. When they're saying stuff like
00:47:23.380stop all the fentanyl coming into our country, yes, it goes bad ways, I know. But when they say
00:47:28.780something like that, think of their backgrounds. What is U.S. President Trump's history with
00:47:33.560substance abuse? His brother died from it. J.D. Vance was raised by a mother who was a severe
00:47:41.040drug addict who, thank God, is clean now. These things shape these people's thinking.
00:47:46.520So you at least need to keep that on your dashboard when you're trying to negotiate with these people and shield Canadians from a huge punishing tariff, which is just a trade tax.
00:47:57.520Our hope is that cooler heads prevail and people like Premier Daniel Smith doing her work down there are able to find a diplomatic solution to this and we're able to avoid these tariffs.
00:48:08.800I hope you're right. I really urge people to take your advice and to listen and think about where these people are coming from.
00:48:16.160another clip we didn't get to in the show, but Mark Carney also said that he didn't think that
00:48:19.960the fentanyl crisis was actually a crisis, speaking to that group in Kelowna. So again,
00:48:24.940just missing the mark and not really on the same page here. Chris, thank you so much for your time.
00:48:29.540It's always a pleasure to have you on the show. We really appreciate your time. It's Chris Sims
00:48:32.420from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Thank you. All right, folks, that will wrap it up here
00:48:38.760for today. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Candice Malcolm. This is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:48:42.480We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. Thank you and God bless.