Mark Carney LOST the election last night
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Summary
Candace Malan is joined by Wyatt Claypool, founder of the National Telegraph, to discuss the debate and whether or not it was actually a good night for Pierre Polyvencic and his campaign. She also talks about the shenanigans that took place on the debate night itself, including the shenanigans from the legacy media and the debates commission.
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Mark Carney has three passports, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, a globalist with options.
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He hasn't seen Canada in a decade, calls himself a European, not a Canadian.
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Told U.S. Congress last year, he's a Brit, he's back to lord over you.
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Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.
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So it is Good Friday, folks, and I wouldn't normally do a show today.
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But because we had that debate last night, we had to cover it, we had to do a reaction show.
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So we are going to talk about the debate, how it played out.
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I think Pierre Polyev had the strongest night of his campaign so far.
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We're going to talk about whether or not it mattered.
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And then, yes, we will get to the shenanigans, the complete and utter breakdown of the legacy
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media, of the debates commission, cancelling the scrum to try to stop, I think, try to stop
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Kian Bextie from asking another devastating question of Mark Carney or maybe trying to
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I'm very pleased to be joined by a great new guest.
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I've never had him on the show today, but I'm quite excited.
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He's a political commentator and founder of the National Telegraph.
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I would want to be doing nothing else but analyzing the debate for the next 24 hours, even if it
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I'd crawl the walls if I tried to do anything else.
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Well, I feel that way, too, although I am trying to give my children like a religious
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And I think Good Friday is supposed to be the most somber day of our Christian year.
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And so I try to use this day to teach them and obviously to go to church and all that
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But I just I couldn't not record a show today, just given what happened last night.
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And I do think it will have an impact on the election.
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I think that Pierre Polyev may have saved his campaign last night.
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I don't want to be too overconfident because this tends to happen with conservative commentators.
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I don't always vote conservative, but I will be this time.
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I think Pierre Polyev absolutely knocked it out of the park.
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I don't think that he's run a perfect campaign.
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I'm not one of those people that say, like, he's run a flawless campaign.
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I'm curious, what were your takeaways and what were your thoughts on the debate, Wyatt?
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Well, first off, it actually did confirm something I had said about the French debate the previous
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night that Polyev, I gave him, if we're giving letter grades, I gave him a B- in the French debate.
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He didn't come off abrasive like the media tries to paint him.
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So he would have just, you know, proven people wrong in Quebec that he's this abrasive Trump-like figure.
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He had some good answers, had a couple good jabs, but it wasn't brilliant.
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And I thought he was saving himself for the English debate.
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Why telegraph a bunch of your best attacks in French that Marc Carney and the liberal
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crew can then write up good answers for, for the, frankly, the real debate?
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Because the conservatives don't have that much to gain.
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They can really just hold on to their incumbents and maybe grab up on a Montreal suburb or Mount
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This debate, Pierre Polyev may be, may want to lock up murderers for the rest of their lives,
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but he committed a murder on stage of Marc Carney.
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And I'm not trying to be like a cheerleader here.
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To this night, he basically did everything he needed to do.
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He would wallop Carney and then he'd go back to looking right down the barrel of the camera
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and then turn into positive Pierre and that I have a positive vision for the country and
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I know some people are even saying he should have gone more aggressive.
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No, he was perfect with his amount of aggression because he needed to snake it always back into
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I have a positive vision so that he doesn't play into the unfair media narrative again that
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he is an abrasive, pugilistic, Trump-like figure who you cannot vote for if you believe in Canadian
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You know, I agree because I think that painting, what the liberal plan was, what the strategy
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was, was to paint Pierre Polyev as mini Trump, as Canada Trump.
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And from a fair-minded view of a fair-minded Canadian watching that debate, there was just
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Like, you cannot watch Pierre Polyev and see any comparison to Trump.
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And I think that that line of argument was just absolutely eviscerated last night.
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Like, you could see that Polyev's strategy, especially towards the end, was to try to tie
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Mark Carney to Justin Trudeau and try to say this is just a continuation of Trudeau's government.
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That was the comparison that really stuck and really stood out.
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I didn't even hear them trying to compare him to Trump.
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I feel like the Trump angle of this election has become moot.
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It's no longer the driving issue of the campaign.
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It was hardly even really the focus of the debate last night.
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I thought that the liberals and the NDP were going to really go hard on President Trump.
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But you could see after two hours on stage, the focus of the debate, as it rightly should
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have been, and I give the moderator, Steve Pakin, a great deal of credit for this, it
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was on life in Canada, on the issues of the day-to-day issues for everyday Canadians, cost
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And so any kind of line of argument to say that the conservatives are like Trump, it just
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So, Wyatt, I want to show, we put together a little montage of what I thought were the
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It's a bit on the longer side, it's three and a half minutes, but we are going to see
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I would say that most of the lows were around Jagmeet Singh and his annoying habit of just
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But I also, I think from this montage, you can see how Polyev was shining his confidence.
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And you can see Mark Carney was just sort of flat, sort of stale, boring, dry.
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I don't know if they were trying to make him come across as just like a boring person,
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like you want the Prime Minister to be boring, especially after nine years of Justin Trudeau.
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And if at any point you want to pause it, just let us know and we will pause it and talk
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You claim to be very different from Mr. Trudeau.
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Now, the point is to show that you are any better than Mr. Trudeau.
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The no-new development law, C-69, guarantees there will not be a one-stop shop because
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it requires the government of Canada to actually duplicate the same project.
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Have one-stop shop over any energy development.
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Mr. Trudeau, let's just let him finish his sentence.
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It takes now 17 years to get a major project approved in this country.
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In the entire G7, we cannot afford a fourth liberal term.
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Keystone, which is the pipeline which has helped to increase oil and gas exports by 50% in
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this country, that is an asset of the people of Canada.
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And the question of what to do is, so it's not a subsidy that has disappeared, it's actually
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Mr. Carney, Justin Trudeau's staffers are actually here with you at this debate in Montreal,
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writing the talking points that you are regurgitating into the microphone.
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How can we possibly believe that you are any different than the previous 10 years of liberal
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I think that was the moment in the debate where Mark Carney direct permanently.
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25 seconds left in this segment for you to respond to that.
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What have you negotiated but fiscal paradises in Bermudas or Cayman Islands?
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You have to prove something and you have to reveal what you own in those companies if
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Since you've had the opportunity to get your top secret security clearance and you've refused,
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Well, first of all, I have got my security clearance when I was a minister.
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I got top secret clearance at the time, so there's no problem getting that.
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But when the government made this recent offer, they said that if I got the secret security
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clearance briefings that I would be gagged under the security law and I could be prosecuted
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if I spoke freely about matters of foreign interference.
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Now, given that Canada has experienced Chinese interference by Beijing, the government of China,
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in two consecutive elections, I needed to do my job to speak freely without fear of prosecution.
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And that was not something I would be allowed to do.
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Even Thomas Mulcair, the former leader of the NDP, said that when he was the leader of the opposition,
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he never would have accepted the kind of gag order that your government and Mr. Trudeau's government
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And it's good that I made that decision because it has allowed me to speak freely.
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At all my rallies, even when they're really big, I would stand in front of a flag
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and greet every single person and hear their stories and learn their struggles.
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And that was always touching to me, that they would put their faith in me or in any of us.
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But we've been in such a rush because we have to get off to the next event,
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And I want you to know out there, I haven't forgotten about you.
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So those were, I thought, the key moments of the debate.
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Well, even then, we have to be pretty selective with what we play
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because you could just, frankly, watch every single response Pierre Polyev had,
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especially when directed at Mark Carney, and it could be considered a highlight.
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Mark Carney there, and I really, really liked Polyev's attack on him
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for all of the liberal staffers who are just holdovers from Justin Trudeau to him,
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that Mark Carney literally does not have a different government than Justin Trudeau
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in any way, shape, or form, even the people that are writing scripts for him.
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That was the moment, I think, that Mark Carney's debate basically wrecked hard permanently.
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Even in that clip, if people go back and they listen to it,
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you can literally hear Yves-Francois Blanchet saying,
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Because he's on hot mic reacting to how, like, just nasty of an attack that is.
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And again, every time Mark Carney would start getting attacked by Pierre Polyev,
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he would just look like such a sourpuss for the next couple of minutes.
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Like, he'd start gripping the podium really hard, looking down at his notes,
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or just looking forward like he's some disappointed lizard.
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Mark Carney's answers did not give any confidence to the soft liberal supporters
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that the liberal party is currently relying on.
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Now, I think many of the pollsters have a problem oversampling urban liberal areas,
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but even when you pull liberal supporters and conservative supporters
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on how likely they are to show up and vote for their chosen party,
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conservatives are at, like, an 80% rating for confidence,
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whereas liberals only had around 63%, 65% saying they're definitely voting liberal.
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There is a large chunk of liberals who, watching that debate,
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they may have, you know, had things confirmed about Mark Carney
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that were making them not super confident to show up,
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Like, I sometimes do wonder, like, how much of an impact do these debates really have?
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We were talking about this before we went to air,
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that I think the debates were scheduled way too late in the election cycle.
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I think that we're talking about the final week here,
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we're going into the long weekend, the Easter long weekend,
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and I'm not sure how much these debates will really move the needle.
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I think it would have been more helpful to have the debates at the beginning of the campaign
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so people could see the clips, they could think about it,
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it could inform their decision early on before they've really set their mind in stone.
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But your point about how, you know, conservatives are reliable voters
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and the people who vote conservative are really fired up about it,
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and I think that Pierre Polyev represents certainly the best candidate
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that the conservatives have had in the last decade.
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You could even argue that he is more conservative than Stephen Harper.
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And I think that there is a lot of excitement around him,
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whereas Mark Carney, it's hard to get excited about him.
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He comes across as just very out of touch and very flat.
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Like, I really thought he was low energy last night, he was boring,
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he just didn't really have the fire in his belly that Pierre Polyev had.
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I have been hearing from people around the GTA that have been campaigning for the conservatives
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saying that it's rough out there, like that when you go door knocking,
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a lot of, it seems like a lot of people in and around, especially the 905,
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are going to be voting based on the Trump tariff issue.
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That didn't really seem to be the central issue of the debate last night.
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To me, it seems like that moment is over, that the news cycles have moved on,
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and that Trump is not front and center in the campaign anymore.
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As much as Mark Carney tries to make it, like, I don't know if you noticed this last night, Wyatt,
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but Mark Carney used the word crisis about 100 times.
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Fundamentally, we need to catalyze this crisis in Canada.
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Right, and it's like, that was like the one thing that he was coached on,
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When Canadians are in fear, when they're nervous, when they're afraid,
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And so that was like his one thing that he kept going back to.
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I think that there is a cost of living crisis in Canada,
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and I think that that can very plainly be drawn to the liberals.
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And so I guess I just want to know, like, do you think that this debate will have an impact?
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It definitely will, because people, when they think about did this debate matter,
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they're wondering if it's going to be kind of a cavalry charge moment
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where the conservatives go from being at 39% in the polls,
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if they can beat the liberals in the popular vote by a point and a half or so,
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The conservative vote over the past four years has actually become more efficient than it used to be,
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where in Alberta you would win rural ridings by Saddam Hussein numbers,
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and the liberals are able to pull out 35% victories over you.
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the liberals have actually gained vote in places like Saskatchewan and Alberta,
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but with older boomer voters who watch a lot of legacy media
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But the liberals are also gaining a lot of votes in places that they just don't need it
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Cool, Montreal was already the reddest place on the planet.
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And then you go to Saskatchewan and when, yeah, the liberals have gained votes
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Whereas the conservatives, their gains that they've made
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have mostly been in working class neighborhoods all around the country.
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So the conservatives could potentially, obviously, lose this election
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or they could win big, winning Hamilton ridings
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and I would say the sign ratio between the conservative candidate Greg Kung
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and the liberal Jenna Suds is like two to one or three to one.
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One thing I heard you say on your YouTube channel, Wyatt,
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that you saw what could potentially be two different coalitions forming,
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Jagmeet Singh is obviously there for the liberals
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But that you potentially saw that Blanchet and Pierre Polyev
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could form a minority coalition government together.
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Yeah, so the reason why the Bloc Québécois and the conservatives
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would go well together almost has nothing to do with ideology.
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On many issues, the Bloc are to the left of both the liberals and the NDP.
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They're quite to the left when it comes to issues around business taxes
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The way that they define Quebec culture tends to be very left.
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At the same time, the problem is the Bloc Québécois' long-term survival
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as a party relies on the liberals basically being defeated.
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If the Bloc Québécois just upholds the liberals again,
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they'll run into the same problems that Jagmeet Singh and the NDP currently have
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where what's the point of voting for you if I can get the same thing
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And they usually have a better chance of winning the election anyways.
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So the Bloc need to effectively box the liberals into the Montreal area
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and hold on to all those semi-rural suburban ridings in the Montreal kind of donut.
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If they don't, well, the Bloc are going to be back in the woods
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And I can see that there is more overlap when it comes to the policy issues,
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I saw that there was, like, both Yves Blanchett and Pierre Polyev
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were hitting Mark Carney on the Century Initiative stuff.
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And I think that there could be some commonalities there.
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It would be interesting if Polyev formed a minority government
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I think that that might, you know, blow up some minds on the prairies
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to try to understand that coalition, but it might be interesting.
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Okay, let's move to the juicy stuff that happened at the debate last night.
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And so, as folks know, after the French debate,
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our own Kian Bexty and Alex Sultan managed to get at the front of the line,
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and they asked two of the four questions to Prime Minister Mark Carney.
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And wow, did those clips of those questions ever go viral, overtook the Internet.
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And what we saw was basically a huge reaction from the legacy media.
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They could feel their monopoly over the news and what they think to be arbiters of the truth.
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And so what you saw during the day yesterday before the debate was the CBC basically trying to lobby to have us removed from the debates.
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Here is David Cochran on his show with the debates commissioner basically complaining and saying,
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how could you let non-government-approved, basically, journalists get out there and ask these questions.
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I actually thought the debates commissioner did quite a good job here defending press freedom in Canada.
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Kind of wild that you have a CBC interview like this.
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Like, you know, Rebel News got as many questions as I think CBC, Radio Canada, Press Canadian, and CTV or Global combined last night.
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And some of them ventured into territory that really are not issues in this election campaign, were not issues in that debate.
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And I'm not saying reporters should be restricted in terms of what they ask.
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But, you know, if the debate commission is going to organize these things, it didn't seem to have control on it last night, sir.
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Well, we're learning from what happened last night.
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And you'll see, hopefully, a fair representation tonight.
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Like, I remember vividly at the museum in Gatineau.
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That the same sort of thing happened with people stacking the microphones and the questions is going in a totally different direction.
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Well, there's only so much we can do to control free speech, you know.
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But, you know, lifeguards got to look after the pool, right?
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And, you know, the debate commission was set up for this.
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And people are now calling for it to be completely scrapped because of what we saw last night.
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I just wonder if you think there's a loss of public trust in the function of this organization.
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I think the public will judge us on the debates themselves.
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So you could see that they were setting it up to say that these people shouldn't be here.
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And we knew, I knew, I predicted this, that they were going to try to pull something.
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I thought that they were going to try to remove our credentials or something that we'd have to go to a federal court.
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The reason that True North, Juneau News, and the Rebel are allowed in the first place is because we sued and we won.
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So, anyway, let's fast forward to the event itself.
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And they're sort of getting ready for their part when they get to scrum the leaders afterwards.
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Like, I was doing a live broadcast, so I couldn't really pay attention to this stuff.
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I just kept getting these clips being sent in by our reporters.
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Here we have, this is a bit on the longer time.
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He overheard Kian talking about the question that he was going to ask to Mark Carney tonight.
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He took major issue with that, defending a liberal candidate who had said some really awful things on social media that Kian was able to get a hold of.
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Anyway, then the Hill Times reporter turns his ear at Ezra LeVance, was yelling.
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Ezra, this is sort of just like unhinged behavior behind the scenes.
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I have respect for the industry and the profession.
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Rebel News, owned by Ezra LeVance, is a different company.
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Well, I want to make sure the guys filming it over there get the good audio.
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Because you're clearly not doing any actual journalism while you're here.
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You're supposed to maintain respectful discourse.
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Why, when you guys started gaming the rules and threatening to sue because you didn't get
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your way, I assumed the rules were out the window.
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He has third-party advertising trucks driving around this venue right now.
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The truck is for Canada, which is owned by you.
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Which is separate from Rebel News, which is also owned by you.
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So, you know, basically, it was just chaos back there.
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And this one reporter is just yelling at Kian, yelling at Ezra, can't really control his
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emotions, saying, well, you guys game the system, and therefore, I don't have to follow
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And so I'm not sure why, if it was that kind of escalation of emotions, or it was just simply
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because of the questions that we asked last night.
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But shortly after that exchange that we just showed, the debates commissioner came out
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in front of the journalists and announced that, yes, the rumors are true.
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I'm Michel Camus, the executive director of the Leaders of this Commission.
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And I'm sorry to announce that there will be no scrum tonight.
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It will be loose because we don't feel that we can actually guarantee a proper environment
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And so they would rather cancel the entire scrum than have to worry about the question that
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Alex Sultan and Kian Bexty may ask and may get to Mark Carney.
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I see this as entirely the old guard protecting themselves, right?
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They didn't want to be embarrassed again by having independent journalists ask better
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questions, ask more interesting questions, and really dominate.
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And I think that what happened after the French debate was that independent media showed,
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Our clips got way more views than anything else.
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I think that our clips probably eclipsed the number of views of the entire French debate.
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They couldn't allow the legacy media to lose their grip.
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And they couldn't allow Mark Carney to be humiliated once again by a question.
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So they just had to eliminate the entire thing.
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Well, it was a vote of non-confidence in Mark Carney's debate performance.
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If it was just the fact that they didn't like your guys' questions about Mark Carney
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did pretty well in the debate, I think they would have let him proceed to the Q&A.
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It was the combination of the fact that they hate your guys' guts and Mark Carney just
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looked pathetic on stage that they couldn't have the humiliation continue both for Mark Carney
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and the legacy media being boxed out by the independent media.
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And I like how they're pretending like you're gaming the system by, you know, showing up,
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being on time, standing in line at the microphones.
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There's like 150 of them in the room and there's about, you know, 15 independent media people.
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What makes it so difficult for them to do what you guys are doing?
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The thing is that they don't like that the independent media has invaded the Friends Club.
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Because the Friends Club, oh, you can take a question, then I'll take a question.
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How about we both, like, ask Jagmeet Singh about the same stupid thing about climate change?
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Everyone thinks it's, so, like, these people would think it's clownish that Alex Sultan got
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It seems, oh, it's not on the topic of the debate.
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But it's something that people like Mark Carney have been dodging for years.
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He sent his daughter to the Tavistock Institute.
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It bears asking the question if he actually lives in material reality when it comes to
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Well, and the fact that they asked Pierre Polyev, like, in January, a reporter for CP24 asked
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Pierre Polyev if he thought there were two genders, right?
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And last year, in February, after Danielle Smith announced her ban on these life-altering
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medications and surgeries, sex change surgeries for children, they asked Pierre Polyev.
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Every member of what you call the Friends Club were pressing him, rightfully so.
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It's their job as journalists, trying to find out where he stood on this issue.
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So we have to do the job that they refused to do.
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And so, again, like, they believe that we are right-wing.
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You know, the talking points that have come out from the media today is that we are right-wing
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agitators and that we are conservative and that we have an agenda and that we're trying
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But the reality is that we're simply doing the job that they refuse to do.
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We are like the mirror image of the legacy media.
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They come out with bad faith questions against Pierre Polyev all the time.
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But the way that they see us is the same way that millions of Canadians view them.
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So the shenanigans continued because outside of the event, well, first of all, we had a
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Liberal staffer assaulting David Menzies of the Rebel on Camera.
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You can see very clearly that he knocks the camera out of the journalist's hand and he
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Let's play that clip and I'll get your reaction.
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Look, that is not the attitude of a winning campaign.
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Like, if you were feeling good about your candidate, that was Mark Carney's media person
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He hit David Menzies quite clearly twice there on that tape.
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Those people are flailing out of control because they know they're losing their grip on the
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narrative, on the media, and they know that their candidate had a very bad night.
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And it only had to do with Mark Carney having a bad night that he was acting like that because
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if he had a good night and the Q&A got canceled, hey, it's Mark Carney's birthday because he
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wants to have a good debate and not be asked any questions about it afterwards unless it's
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from, like, you know, Katie Simpson or somebody like Stuart Benson from The Hill Times.
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So he was only raging because of the bad debate performance.
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And it's like, hey, guys, number one rule of politics, don't make, don't show what you're
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Do not do that because it can be very easy to exploit it.
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The conservatives are going to just keep drilling on these debate clips.
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They're probably going to turn them into advertisements, as they should.
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There are so many people who don't actually watch the debate live like we were talking
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about before, but they consume them through clips.
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So when we see abacus data coming out and saying that, like, 47% of people who watched the
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whole debate thought Polly have won, fantastic.
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That means if you can get more people to watch the debate clips, they'll eventually come to
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the same conclusion, which it's pretty difficult to get people to agree that the conservative
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won a debate because since Canada has so many lefty parties, there's a lot of other people
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who might as well, oh, the Jagme Singh won, or I think Carney won because I'm voting for
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You can get nearly 50% of people to say he won.
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And even the CBC had to admit that the conservatives and Pierre Polyev won the debate.
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Here is a clip of the Ad Issues panel where Andrew Coyne admits that Pierre Polyev had a
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He was not just a critic, but also outlining his own plan.
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So I think by the normal standards of how you judge these debates, I think he had a good
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And I do agree with Andrew that Pierre Polyev had a good night.
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His goal was to sound more prime ministerial and look less like an attack dog that we've
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Oh, especially coming from Chantal Hubert, who has made it her life's work to never say
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I remember early on when Polyev had first become the Conservative Party leader, because I have to
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She wrote an article like a month after he became leader.
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He's going to be like a terrible conservative leader.
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It's like, tell us you want the Liberals to win.
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He was the main person I saw online yesterday raging about Rebel News and the True North
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Wire service and Juno News being at the debate.
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I don't know if Andrew Coint even considers himself a Conservative anymore.
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The man is somebody who I guess would, he considers himself Conservative because he wants
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to conserve leftist institutions and orthodoxies.
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He would be one of the people saying, don't break up the Soviet Union in Russia in the 1990s,
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I don't think that, it's interesting because I think people who, like for me, I used to
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And he was one of the people that helped inform my view in becoming a Conservative in the first
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And so I think of him as someone on the political right, which makes me even more disappointed
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But it's interesting because my young staff, like my staffers who are in their 20s and like
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the Gen Z cohort, they don't connect him with the right at all.
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They just consider him like a hard left Justin Trudeau fanboy in the Globe and Mail and on CBC.
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And so it's interesting that you've said that he's Conservative because I don't think that
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It's again that, well, we should preserve our institutions.
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So if the CBC has been around for a very long time, well, we should keep the CBC funding
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He doesn't like supporting people who sound outside of the normal, even if they're entirely
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I know that this actually happens with Donald Trump a lot, where you'll get kind of like
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the never Trump Republicans in the US who, in fact, actually agree with all of Trump's
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policies, but they don't like Trump because he's not normal.
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They're like, well, if you take a photo of or if you take a video clip of Polly of talking,
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he seems very rambunctious and populist, and that's not normal.
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And then you cut to Mark Carney, and he's boring and consistent, which means that he's the
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conservative choice in the mind of someone like Andrew Coyne.
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It's interesting that we live in such a strange country where you have leftist conservatives
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or like basically, yeah, people that if you want to conserve Canada's order, you are a
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leftist because Canada's institutions and Canada's order.
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I mean, it's a country, sadly, the last 50 years has been built around like socialism and
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And so anyone trying to conserve that is actually on the left.
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I think that when it comes to Andrew Coyne, I think Donald Trump broke his brain.
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And when I just when I see him, when I hear him, I think I think he just like lost his
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ability to be insightful because he's so angry and full of rage.
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Even yesterday, like Stephen Taylor, who's a conservative commentator, shared a clip of
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I don't want to play it, but he basically was predicting the death of independent media.
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He said last night was the nail in the coffin for us.
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And then Taylor posted that on X and accurately quoted him.
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And then in the replies, Andrew Coyne was like raging and like accusing Stephen Taylor
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Like, anyway, just a very angry, bitter person.
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But I do think that last night, all those shenanigans were all based and rooted in the
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They could not handle the independent media out there running circles around the legacy
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media, asking real questions, getting more clicks and more views.
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And the whole the whole episode was just them like their last gasp, like raging against the
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The fact that the independent media is overtaking the legacy media in terms of relevancy and
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And that was just them like like losing grip on their power.
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This will be the last election that the legacy media has an impact in my in my estimation.
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Well, they were they were upset that they weren't there to spin the spin the debate exclusively.
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And if the conservatives win, and especially if the legacy media at least starts getting their
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subsidies reduced, you will see wall to wall columns about how independent media is what
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has turned Canada into a fascist state or whatever the narrative is going to be exactly.
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There is going to be independent media hysteria over the next two years about how independent
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media did all this to us, even as, you know, everything's fantastic, potentially, because
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These are like the most dour people you've ever met in your lives.
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Everything could be sunny, warm, birds chirping around them.
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And they'd be like, how can I survive this hellhole that I'm in right now, because we
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don't have Rosemary Barton on television 24 seven.
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It's so it's so true, although they won't call us independent media, they'll call us extreme
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And it is like they live in a different universe.
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I noticed that outside the debates yesterday, there was a feminist protest group that were
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wearing like handmaid's tail gowns, like as if we're going into some kind of like a
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Christian fascism state, and I'm like, which which party are they referring to?
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Because last I checked, all like even the conservatives, it's a very moderate centrist
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party that is left wing on social issues, more or less, especially on abortion.
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It's like, are they reacting to the American election?
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Because, yes, in the U.S., you know, Trump had a hand in overturning Roe versus Wade, which
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But it's like it does feel like they're living in a fever dream.
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A lot of people like to live vicariously through American politics.
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And when something interesting in Canada happens, I think these people get very excited because
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now I get to LARP as if I'm in a fascist state, even though that's not even what's happening
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I've never seen a fascist cut the size of government in my life before.
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But anyways, with many of these people, though, that's why like Polly did such a good job of
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He set the tone at the start that, in fact, if you actually deeply fear Donald Trump, you
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should be voting conservative because I'll make the country less weak and vulnerable to
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And now I don't think I don't agree that that's what's even going on.
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At the same time, it's not like he's trying to take over the country.
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But if that is your top issue, do you want the people in who have been making the economy
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weaker, per capita incomes going down, who have been making sure that our military has
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been basically turned into a DEI HR department?
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Or do you want the people who are going to, you know, cut your taxes and actually, you know,
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arm up the military if you are deeply afraid that the Americans are going to run over the
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I hope that Polyev wins and then the media lose their minds and blame it on independent
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And if that if that happens, it's going to be a fantastic two to four years.
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All right, Wyatt, thanks so much for joining the show.
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I hope you have some time to reflect on some gratitude and just, you know, our country is
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not perfect, but God has given us an amazing world and he's given us his son, which was
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sacrificed so that we could we could live eternally.
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We'll be back again with the final week of the campaign next week.