Juno News - March 28, 2025


Mark Carney PLAGIARIZED his Oxford Thesis： Report (Ft. Northern Perspective)


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show. Happy Friday, everyone. We have
00:00:06.740 a great episode for you today. We're going to talk about Mark Carney and the latest
00:00:10.820 accusation of him being basically a pathological liar. This time he's being accused of plagiarizing
00:00:16.680 his Oxford thesis while in university, while in grad school. Over in the UK, we're going to talk
00:00:21.920 about Donald Trump and the latest tariff threat, which frankly, folks, I think is nothing but
00:00:25.920 fake news. And we're going to end the show talking about Pierre Polyev and his policy
00:00:30.600 announcements so far in the campaign. I am very excited today to be joined by some of my favorite
00:00:35.820 political commenters in Canada. They used to come on the show quite frequently. Now they're back on
00:00:41.820 this Candice Malcolm Show. Very pleased to be joined by the Northern Perspective couple, Ryan and Tanya.
00:00:47.900 Ryan and Tanya, welcome. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks so much for having us, Candice.
00:00:52.300 We're really excited to have the conversation. Thanks, Candice. It's an
00:00:55.780 absolute pleasure. Oh, great. Well, I haven't talked to you guys in quite a while. So I want
00:01:00.420 to know, how do you feel about the campaign so far? How do you think it's going? Who do you
00:01:04.560 think has momentum at this point? I'll start with you, Tanya. I think that Pierre Polyev has
00:01:10.100 incredible momentum. He was here in Hamilton the other night and we went to a rally where there was
00:01:14.460 over 5,000 people from what we heard. We heard that he had upwards of 8,000 people trying to get in
00:01:21.840 at the rally in North York a few days before that and then he had a rally in BC, I think it was last
00:01:28.220 night, that had upwards of 5,000 people. I just don't think that Mark Carney is getting those kinds of
00:01:33.480 numbers. Well, Mark Carney certainly doesn't have the sort of charisma and the natural talents as a
00:01:39.420 politician as Pierre. Seeing his rallies is really exciting. Also, seeing him door knocking in the
00:01:43.320 way that he has that sort of interpersonal skills, he really is stepping up and painting a very
00:01:48.040 positive vision for Canada. Honestly, when I watch some of his videos, I feel inspired and, you know,
00:01:52.580 usually political commentators like myself and probably like you two, you get a little jaded and
00:01:57.460 you don't really feel inspired by political messages, but I find that Pierre is really hitting
00:02:01.760 the mark. What do you think there, Ryan? Yeah, so one of the things that we did recently is we went
00:02:07.920 back to the 1984 leadership debate during that election between Brian Mulrooney and John Turner
00:02:14.740 and, you know, people have their opinion on the results of the election and what Brian Mulrooney did
00:02:20.860 and didn't do, but in terms of the messaging during that election, we reviewed that right before the
00:02:28.300 election was actually called and we'd remarked on the fact that the messaging coming from Brian
00:02:32.940 Mulrooney was very positive. It was it was still somewhat critical of John Turner, but not overly so
00:02:38.780 and he didn't, he didn't go into name calling or anything like that. And we had said that this is the
00:02:45.640 messaging that Pierre needs to pivot to if he wants to really gain some momentum in this election. And lo and
00:02:52.720 behold, it was almost overnight, he transitioned from official leader of the opposition to prime
00:02:58.820 ministerial candidate in his messaging, all new ads came out. And it was it was the exact same style
00:03:06.920 where he was talking about the failings of the liberals, he was talking about the failings of Mark
00:03:12.240 Carney, but not in such a way that would turn off voters. And then he spent the rest of his time
00:03:17.940 really hammering out that hopeful message in in a way that, you know, you really felt energized at
00:03:25.740 the end of it. And that's the messaging that has been put out by the conservatives throughout this
00:03:30.860 campaign. And it's it's really starting to resonate with people across the country. And I think that's
00:03:35.380 evident in the rally numbers. It's interesting, because the liberals love to accuse the conservatives
00:03:39.900 of being negative, and you know, spreading division and hate. And yet, objectively, in this campaign,
00:03:46.180 what I do, I totally agree with you that Polyev was very talented at pointing out Trudeau's flaws.
00:03:52.500 But since his campaign has already sort of risen above the fray, and he does keep things positive.
00:03:57.060 And what I've seen more and more from Mark Carney is this sort of like, cheap shots, it's almost out
00:04:03.940 of character for Mark Carney, because he does seem like a very like classy, accomplished guy. But then
00:04:08.580 it's like someone's telling him to go after Polyev. And he's doing it in such an awkward way. I want to
00:04:15.060 talk about this scandal that broke in the National Post this morning, a huge explosive story. In the
00:04:20.580 National Post, it says, exclusive Mark Carney faces plagiarism accusations for his 1995 Oxford doctoral
00:04:28.980 thesis. And here we have Kath Catherine Levesque, going through it in detail, pointing out how there have
00:04:37.860 been three academics that have reviewed his thesis, and they have some serious problems with the way
00:04:43.860 that it was written, several instances being pointed out of Carney quoting other people's work verbatim,
00:04:51.620 line by line, but without quotations, and without sources, which is, I mean, that is plagiarism,
00:04:57.700 that is textbook plagiarism. And to see it over and over and over it. So let me just read a little bit from
00:05:04.740 the National Post here. It says the National Post obtained a copy of Carney's 1995 thesis for his
00:05:09.060 doctorate in economics from Oxford University, titled The Dynamic Advantage of Competition. It shows
00:05:14.740 10 instances of apparent plagiarism, according to the judgment of three university academics who reviewed
00:05:20.500 the material. In several sections of the thesis, Carney used full quotes, paraphrases, or slightly
00:05:27.380 modified quotes from four previous works without proper acknowledgement or attribution. And so this is a
00:05:34.500 big no-no in the academic world. Like I remember back to being a university student, and I can't tell
00:05:39.300 you how many times my advisor or the dean of the school or the head of the department would come and
00:05:45.860 talk to students, you know, talk to the class about the importance of not plagiarizing. Like in the
00:05:51.140 academic world, this is just the absolute no-no. And the fact that he apparently did this back then,
00:06:00.580 you know, we just lived through several examples in the United States of high-profile people
00:06:05.860 being accused of plagiarism. It is a very serious accusation. And I think that it just shows a lot
00:06:11.140 about Mark Carney's character, that he would be willing to pass off others' work for his own. It's sort
00:06:16.740 of reminiscent of some of the things that he's done on the campaign so far, taking credit for saving
00:06:21.220 Canada from the 2008 financial crisis, even though he was just Bank of Governor of Canada. And it was
00:06:25.780 obviously the Finance Minister Jim Flaherty and the Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who had to make all
00:06:29.620 the tough decisions. He also claimed that he helped Paul Martin balance the budget, even though records
00:06:35.220 show that he wasn't involved in the government at all in the 90s when Paul Martin was the Finance
00:06:39.460 Minister balancing the budget. So I'll put this one to you, Tanya. Like what is your takeaway of this
00:06:46.260 entire story?
00:06:46.980 I think the important thing behind this story, at least what it implies, is that if he plagiarized
00:06:53.140 his doctoral thesis, then does that mean he didn't earn his doctorate? I guess that's the question that
00:07:00.500 we have to ask. Because as you said, plagiarizing is a huge issue within the academic world and you
00:07:06.740 can't do that. So then if you plagiarize the thesis that your doctorate is built on, what does that imply
00:07:12.740 about your doctorate? I mean, it can have, I think it could have major career ramifications. And I
00:07:17.860 don't know if you can go back and have it revoked, have your doctorate revoked. I don't know if these
00:07:21.940 accusations are serious enough to warrant that. I think it would probably require a much deeper
00:07:26.900 academic review, but it seriously puts those issues up on the table. What do you think, Ryan?
00:07:33.140 Yeah, and there are there are cases where doctors have been revoked in those situations. I know in the
00:07:38.900 article that the person that was overseeing his doctorate defended him, which is interesting. I
00:07:46.900 don't know if they've actually read the cases that have been cited because it's very, very blatant
00:07:53.380 in terms of the passages that they're talking about. And I think what it demonstrates is that
00:07:57.700 even back then, Mark Carney thought he was smarter than everybody else. He thought everybody else was
00:08:03.300 just a stepping stone for him, that he would step on the heads of other people in order so he could
00:08:09.140 reach higher up in society. And you see that throughout his career. And in our video, we raised
00:08:17.300 the question, does he get that job at Goldman Sachs if he actually didn't get his doctorate? And if he
00:08:22.340 didn't get the job at Goldman Sachs, does he then become governor of Bank of Canada in the 2008 financial
00:08:28.020 crisis? Oh, no, we would never have made it out of the 2008 financial crisis if Mark Carney didn't
00:08:33.540 actually, you know, become bank of her governor Bank of Canada, so he would have us believe. And
00:08:39.780 then, you know, it takes them all the way here. But it really gives us a glimpse into the character
00:08:46.100 and the business practices of this guy, who doesn't seem to be bothered that he can take credit for other
00:08:54.180 people's accomplishments, take credit for other people's work. How many other situations in his
00:08:58.580 career has he done that, and made millions, if not billions of dollars for himself and his companies
00:09:06.340 that he's been involved with. So now you see him on the campaign trail plagiarizing the entire
00:09:11.620 conservative campaign. Now, politicians have done this, you know, throughout many instances. But in this
00:09:18.020 case, it's even more egregious, because the Liberal Party themselves have been literally criticizing
00:09:23.300 and demonizing the conservatives for the past two years, just on the carbon tax alone,
00:09:27.540 that if you don't agree with the carbon tax, you are a climate denier, you hate the environment,
00:09:32.500 you're going to burn the planet. And the first thing that they do in in their announcement is,
00:09:36.740 by the way, we're getting rid of the carbon tax. And all the things that we said before,
00:09:40.900 don't worry, because Trump's here. And that's where we want you to focus.
00:09:43.940 Well, isn't that interesting? Okay, we have a couple of examples. And I think Ryan just just
00:09:48.740 touched on something you said, that this is based on hubris and an ego, like arrogance,
00:09:53.460 the fact that he thinks that he's smarter than everyone, and he wouldn't get away with it. Okay,
00:09:56.820 to go back to myself, I wrote a thesis for my master's degree, right? And it isn't that hard
00:10:02.820 to just put quotes around something that you're getting from someone else, or a footnote, and put
00:10:07.220 a citation at the bottom, right? Like, that's, that's all it takes, you are allowed to quote other
00:10:11.540 people to your heart's content. In a thesis, every single page can include dozens of quotes from other
00:10:17.780 people's works, all you have to do is just add a couple of punctuation marks, and the footnote,
00:10:24.340 like you said. And so it just seems almost lazy to me that someone would do this. It's like, yes,
00:10:29.780 they have to be arrogant to believe they can get away with it. But also lazy, I just want to go
00:10:32.980 through for the audience, a couple of examples here. So as you can see right here, this is from
00:10:38.420 a so you can see on the screen, over top of one another. So the first line is what he took from
00:10:44.020 another person's work. And then the second one is his own. So a 1990 paper by someone with the name
00:10:49.940 Porter writes first government intervention can impede international competition and artificially
00:10:55.060 support domestic profits. And you can see word for word, verbatim, Carney had that in his own
00:11:00.340 thesis. Again, how hard is it to just put quotes around it and a footnote? And then again, here it
00:11:05.140 is again, another one by the same person Porter in a 1990 paper. And it says you can see, you know,
00:11:11.860 line by line, second in an industry or economy, and it goes on. Here's another, a third example,
00:11:16.980 social norms, values, and affect the nature of home demand. And you can see just over and over again,
00:11:23.460 there's 10 of these examples where he just uses the exact same phrase from someone else's paper,
00:11:29.140 you know, in 1995, maybe the internet wasn't as readily available. And we didn't have AI tools that
00:11:33.620 could easily find this kind of thing. He wasn't expecting technology to catch up this way. But
00:11:38.180 these kinds of things have a way of catching up to you and really hitting an opportune time here.
00:11:43.300 Sorry, Ryan, to go back to what you were saying. Sure. And the other thing that it calls into question,
00:11:48.420 this is where it'd be really interesting to understand the complete context of the paper,
00:11:52.500 because if he is not quoting and plagiarizing these specific ideas, my question to the three
00:12:01.460 professors that have reviewed this is, in terms of the content that he wrote before and after this,
00:12:08.660 is all of that content prefaced on these plagiarized passages? Because if so,
00:12:14.980 then potentially none of this is his idea at all. And it calls the entire paper into question. And
00:12:21.940 people may say, well, who cares? He forgot to cite specific passages in a paper that was written,
00:12:30.020 you know, 20 years ago. Well, it matters because a thesis is supposed to be your idea. The citations
00:12:37.860 are supposed to be passages that support what you're trying to say. I went to school for philosophy,
00:12:44.580 and I'll wait for everybody to make their jokes now. But when it comes to philosophy, that's all
00:12:49.940 you're writing is papers. And you have to be very careful on that. So if all I'm doing is taking
00:12:56.340 ideas from other people, five or six different sources, and then stitching them together and
00:13:01.140 passing it off on as my own, that's not my work. That's everybody else's work, no matter how I write it.
00:13:06.980 Well, he seems to have a history of taking credit for other people's work. But to that point again,
00:13:13.140 right, like all of the career success that he has had, based on getting this doctorate degree,
00:13:19.380 being an Oxford graduate, being a scholar, being a very bright, intelligent man, I mean,
00:13:24.180 this does call it all into question, you know, would he have gotten the job at Goldman Sachs had he
00:13:28.660 not had the PhD? Well, we don't know. But if he had had a PhD, and then had it revoked for plagiarism,
00:13:35.460 I bet very much that he would not have become the governor of the Bank of Canada or the governor
00:13:39.940 of the Bank of England. What do you think about all this, Tanya?
00:13:43.380 Yeah, I mean, we can't go based off what could have happened or should have happened, etc, etc. But
00:13:50.180 it's probably a good supposition that, again, if you're disgraced by having your doctorate revoked,
00:13:58.100 I don't think you're going to be getting those prestigious jobs.
00:14:00.260 Exactly. Okay, I want to move on. This is this is a story that I almost think I would sum up as
00:14:06.580 fake news Friday, because the media just want to attach this storyline that Donald Trump is somehow
00:14:13.220 the greatest enemy that is ever known to Canadians, and that he is trying to destroy us as a country.
00:14:18.340 So anytime they have the opportunity to insert him back into the campaign, they will. I'm reluctant to
00:14:24.420 even talk about it. But obviously, it is a big story in the news. So I'll cover it with the asterisk
00:14:28.820 that I think it's fake news. And I will explain why in a moment. But the story out of CBC News this
00:14:34.740 week and big story yesterday was that Trump is going ahead with the 25% tariffs on auto. Here we
00:14:42.260 have a clip of President Trump in the Oval Office talking about this 25% tariff that will be applied
00:14:48.820 on all finished vehicles imported into the United States starting on April 3. Let's play that clip.
00:14:53.780 What we're going to be doing is a 25% tariff on all cars that are not made in the United States,
00:15:00.660 if they're made in the United States is absolutely no tariff. We started off with a two and a half
00:15:05.300 percent base, which is what we were at. And we go to 25%. And basically, as you know, and as you've
00:15:12.900 been saying, not reporting as accurately as it should be reported, because it's a massive story.
00:15:17.620 Businesses coming back to the United States.
00:15:22.020 Okay, so one of the things that's quite clear there is he says that the tariffs apply on imported
00:15:28.980 vehicles in the United States, obviously vehicles made in the United States would not be subject
00:15:32.500 to this tariff. And if you go on to the White House website, there is a fact sheet on there. And
00:15:38.180 I'm going to fact check the storyline that says that this is a huge tax on Canadians and that we have
00:15:44.660 to insert Trump back into the center of the campaign. If you go to this fact sheet, it says
00:15:50.500 right here that importers of automobiles under the Canada, Mexico, United States agreement,
00:15:56.260 sorry, the United States, Mexico, Canada agreement, the USMCA agreement will be given the opportunity
00:16:02.420 to certify their US content and systems will be implemented such that the 25% tariff will not apply
00:16:08.580 on the value of the US content. And it also says the USMCA compliant automobile parts will remain
00:16:15.460 tariff free until the Secretary of Commerce in consultation with US Border Protection establishes
00:16:21.700 a process to apply tariffs to the non US content. So Trump isn't even saying that all of the cars that
00:16:28.580 come from Canada in the United States will be taxed. He's just saying that the Porsche, because as we know,
00:16:33.060 the manufacturing corridor is such that an automobile will be made in part in the US,
00:16:39.140 in part in Canada, parts will go back and forth across the border as much as like a dozen times
00:16:43.220 before the piece is complete. And so there's going to be a formula that exempts the American parts.
00:16:48.260 And so it'll only be a portion. So it's not like they're slapping a 25% tax on all cars,
00:16:52.340 it's just a portion of the cars that come from Canada. And there's going to be an exemption possibly for
00:16:58.180 USMCA parts that have been made in Canada. So again, I think that the media is blowing this all
00:17:05.060 out of proportion, because they know that liberal voters, left wing voters, and baby boomers,
00:17:10.580 particularly voters over 60, are very worried about Trump. And this is a very motivating factor
00:17:15.300 for them. So I think that the media is inserting this into the election to try to derail the
00:17:19.700 conservatives and peer poly of Orion. What do you think? Yeah, it's,
00:17:26.900 it's very disappointing to see how the mainstream media is jumping on this, it seems that whenever
00:17:32.740 peer poly of makes a very good policy announcement, all of a sudden, they will come up with this major
00:17:38.340 Trump story to try and distract from it. And this is a prime example. Because if a, you know,
00:17:44.580 if Ford sends a part up to Canada, and then Canada does something with it, and then it sends it back,
00:17:54.100 by this definition, that doesn't seem to be subject to this tariff, because a, the original part came
00:18:00.180 to the United States, Canada worked on it, and then it came back. And, and I think a lot of Canadians that
00:18:04.900 aren't involved in the auto sector, they may not, they may know anecdotally, yes, they're, you know,
00:18:10.580 they're very integrated, but they may not know how much they are integrated, like parts are constantly
00:18:16.020 moving between factories across the border back and forth. Like, it's not like, you know, half the
00:18:22.260 car is made in the US, and then they ship it up to Canada, and then the other half is built, and then
00:18:25.780 it's done. That's not how it works. It's, they treat it as if there's no border at all. And they're
00:18:32.660 just, you know, sending it down the road to the next factory in order to actually build the rest of this.
00:18:37.860 So the majority of the car isn't even going to be subject to the tariff. But if you listen to Mark
00:18:45.300 Carney, hundreds of thousands of people are going to lose their jobs. And the media is just picking
00:18:49.780 this up and running with it. It's actually disgrace that they are fear mongering this badly. They are
00:18:55.540 amping up the anxiety for these Canadians. And it's completely unnecessary. And it's completely
00:19:00.580 fictitious. Well, speaking of amping up the fear, I think that Mark Carney really went over the top.
00:19:07.700 This is how he was responding. Speaking at a press conference in Ottawa, he said that Canada's
00:19:13.780 relationship with the United States as we know it is over. Let me play that clip.
00:19:18.340 The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and
00:19:24.420 tight security and military cooperations is over.
00:19:28.900 It seems a little dramatic. What do you think, Tanya?
00:19:31.620 Yeah, absolutely. We actually commented on this video recently and we were appalled. Mark Carney is
00:19:39.300 the head of the Liberal Party and therefore the prime minister right now, but he doesn't have a
00:19:43.140 seat in the House of Commons. So he's what's considered a caretaker prime minister. And for
00:19:47.540 somebody who's supposed to be a caretaker, he's not doing a very good job of taking care of our
00:19:51.860 relationship with the United States. After making a comment like that, you know, he hasn't been down
00:19:57.620 to the States to visit with Trump. It sounds like the office of President Trump had tried to contact
00:20:03.620 the prime minister's office and was told, well, we'll talk to you later kind of thing. He doesn't
00:20:10.100 really seem too intent to repair that relationship or help foster that relationship. He really is
00:20:17.620 trying to make Trump out to be the boogeyman. Well, and the reason for that is because that's
00:20:22.500 the only way that the Liberals are going to be able to try to win this election and they know it. The
00:20:26.660 only reason that, you know, the election is allegedly as close as it is, if you believe the polls,
00:20:33.140 is because they are scaring the bejesus out of everybody or trying to in regards to the in
00:20:41.860 in regards to Trump. Now, you know, we've we've said on record we don't believe or we don't agree
00:20:48.180 with a lot of what Trump does. But is he the existential threat to to Canada? No. And neither
00:20:54.180 is the United States and neither are Americans, which all Carney seems to be saying, talking about
00:20:59.620 division and fear is what we need to stand up to the Americans. I'm sorry, but the majority of
00:21:04.500 Americans are wonderful people. They are, you know, our neighbors. We we've enjoyed a long and fruitful
00:21:12.500 relationship. This is the the most secure and prosperous relationship in world history when it
00:21:20.820 comes to two nations working side by side. And for him to come out and say that he's essentially
00:21:25.860 implying that our alliance with the United States is over. OK, what does that mean if tomorrow China
00:21:30.980 decides to send a bunch of drones or a bunch of troops over the Arctic? Does that mean the U.S.
00:21:36.500 is going to look at what Carney said and said, well, you said you don't need our help anymore?
00:21:40.420 Well, and further to that, the hold on. Sorry, I lost my train of thought. Well, let me just jump in
00:21:46.980 there because one of the things that we did a deep dive on earlier in the week is this idea that Carney
00:21:52.100 does have this affection towards China. He does have this relationship, this friendship. You know,
00:21:56.980 the news broke, I believe it was from the CBC that he took that after he became Trudeau's advisor,
00:22:03.620 his company took a $274 million loan from the State Bank of China. And there was also a report
00:22:11.540 from 2024 where he talked about how he wanted the Chinese UN to be the global reserve currency. He
00:22:17.700 said it already was a global reserve currency, and that is a good thing. And so when you think about the
00:22:22.660 world that we live in and, you know, if he wants to move past the relationship with the United States,
00:22:27.220 you know, we've benefited from an incredibly secure and peaceful time in human history because America
00:22:34.580 has been the superpower, the sole superpower. And this idea that we should turn our backs on America,
00:22:40.100 pivot towards China. I mean, China does not share our values, let's just put it that way. And this idea that
00:22:45.860 he believes that their green economy, that their, you know, willingness to play along with a lot of his sort of
00:22:54.020 net zero carbon fund idea ideas and initiatives is, is a fact that we should be aligning ourselves.
00:23:01.860 I don't think most Canadians think about that. I don't think most Canadians would agree if you were
00:23:06.260 to ask even the sort of elbows up crowd. I mean, I give a hard time to the older boomers. I know a lot
00:23:12.820 of our viewers are boomers. I don't think they're all bad. I think most of them are incredibly wonderful,
00:23:16.340 hardworking people. But the people who have fallen for this line that America is an existential threat
00:23:21.380 to Canada, and that we have to turn our backs to them. Like, take the proposition, would you rather
00:23:26.900 be closely aligned with the United States, who shares our values, who we've had this peaceful
00:23:31.060 relationship for since the beginning of our country? Or would you rather have a relationship
00:23:35.460 and be closer aligned, and be giving away our sovereignty to China? I don't think that most Canadians
00:23:40.900 would choose China. I don't think any would. And the fact that Mark Carney speaks warmly about China,
00:23:45.060 to me is almost disqualifying. Tanya, what do you think?
00:23:48.740 Yeah, I agree with you completely, Candace. As you said, China does not share our values.
00:23:55.860 They do not share our Western values, and they don't share democratic values. I personally would
00:24:02.100 rather be aligned with the United States, who has been our friend for many, many years. And we have
00:24:08.740 grown our countries together, our economies. And, you know, we've really flourished together as partners,
00:24:17.300 instead of just turning our back on the states and going and buddying up with China. I know,
00:24:23.620 many Canadians do not like Donald Trump as a president. And that's fine. But I don't think
00:24:28.900 that we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Well, just to turn it around, we didn't have,
00:24:34.820 you know, all of the conservative voters saying that, you know, Joe Biden was an existential threat
00:24:39.700 to the United States, and that, you know, we need to break off. And then, you know,
00:24:43.940 people on the other side would say, well, he never threatened to annex Canada. And I would say,
00:24:47.940 neither did Trump. That was a joke, because he was pointing, you know, he was humiliating Trudeau,
00:24:53.380 because all Trudeau and his government was doing for the last four years is trash talking a former
00:24:57.300 President of the United States in the House of Commons. What do you expect to happen? And as for,
00:25:02.820 as for China, the issue is that the vast majority of Canadians don't seem to know how much of a
00:25:09.780 disregard for our way of life and our democracy that China actually has. They have been working
00:25:15.940 to undermine our democracy for over 25 years. They started in British Columbia. They've been
00:25:22.340 bankrolling underground casinos to try to manipulate the diaspora community. People who've tried to escape
00:25:28.500 China and come here. They're trying to position themselves to annex Taiwan in the middle of
00:25:35.060 everything going on over in Asia. They're telling the Philippine government to stay out of it to let
00:25:40.580 them like there is so many things that that are going on that Canadians are just not aware of because
00:25:47.540 CBC, CTV, global, global mail, all of these mainstream media outlets, they've just fallen prey to,
00:25:54.340 well, what do we need to do in order to get Mark Carney elected so we can continue to receive
00:25:59.700 our government handout of 1.3 billion to the CBC and 800 million to the rest of the media.
00:26:05.860 It's so short-sighted and it's so disappointing. I want to move on to this story that I did a deep
00:26:10.420 dive on earlier this morning. The video's up on YouTube and you can find the article on Juno News.
00:26:15.220 The Eurasian group president Ian Bremmer wrote an article where he said that he predicts that Canada
00:26:21.940 will quietly fold to the Americans after the election campaign. Okay, so why does this matter?
00:26:27.140 Ian Bremmer is the head of the Eurasia group and if the Eurasia group sounds familiar, it's because that is
00:26:33.140 where Mark Carney's wife, Diane Fox Carney, that's where she works. She started working there in 2021.
00:26:38.740 Who else works for the Eurasia group? Gerald Butts. Gerald Butts was Justin Trudeau's primary secretary,
00:26:44.340 his best friend, his policy architect. He is a hard left environmentalist who was very much behind the
00:26:51.140 carbon tax. Of course, he got thrown under the bus by Justin Trudeau over the whole SNC-Lavallon scandal
00:26:57.380 and then he picked up a cushy job with, you guessed it, the Eurasia group. So he was there and
00:27:03.780 Evan Solomon, who was a star liberal candidate, who was a CBC journalist, he got kicked out of his role
00:27:10.180 as a journalist because he was selling art illicitly without disclosing it to the CBC for commissions that
00:27:17.780 he wasn't telling anybody about. So he was interviewing people for his job as a CBC journalist and then he
00:27:23.380 was selling them art and getting a commission, very unethical. The CBC fired him. Well, guess who he
00:27:28.180 was selling his art to? He was selling his art to Mark Carney, as was reported in the UK Guardian. So
00:27:33.540 it's all kind of twisted together. Evan Solomon publishes the website, GZero Media, which is where
00:27:41.700 this article was published. And again, Ian Bremmer is a president. So he is like an insider in the know,
00:27:46.820 he's a political risk analyst, and his job is to analyze political risks and then advise his
00:27:56.420 clients on them. So he is in the know, he understands. He talks to people in Carney's team,
00:28:01.780 Carney's wife, Carney's policy advisor, and one of Carney's star candidates, presumably he's friends
00:28:08.260 with Mark Carney as well. And he is saying in a blog post, I don't know why he would publish this,
00:28:14.420 but you can read it for yourself. He's literally talking about how everybody is afraid of Donald
00:28:20.580 Trump and his tariffs. The tariffs, you know, because the United States' economy is so big,
00:28:25.620 the other players don't have a bargaining chip. So both Canada and Mexico can sort of like pretend
00:28:30.500 that they're going to fight against Trump. But at the end of the day, everybody knows that they're
00:28:34.100 going to cave. And he literally writes, I expect Ottawa will quietly fold after the vote to ensure the
00:28:40.180 ongoing relations with the US remain functional. So to me, Ryan, this is all fake. This is all pretend.
00:28:48.580 The whole tough talk, the relationship is over, we're going to fight back against Trump, elbows up.
00:28:53.860 It's all a charade. It's all a show. And there, the truth is written right there, that as soon as
00:28:59.300 the campaign is over, Mark Carney will just fold to the Americans and will carry on. To me, it's so
00:29:06.100 insanely frustrating that this is exposed right here and that this isn't getting as much attention.
00:29:11.300 What do you think? Well, if Canadians need any proof of what you just talked about,
00:29:16.900 they just need to do one thing. Remember what has happened to this country between 2016
00:29:24.020 and December of 2024. Look what the Liberals did. They've completely divided everybody. They told
00:29:30.580 everybody that this is a post-national state. We're not even, you know, technically a country anymore.
00:29:35.060 We don't have a Canadian identity. Be ashamed of your past. Be ashamed of all of our symbols.
00:29:39.940 We're taking them off the passport. We're ripping down statues. And you need to be afraid and ashamed
00:29:46.820 of who you are. And by the way, please continue to pay your taxes accordingly. So you have all of
00:29:53.700 that. And then all of a sudden, when the Liberals are 20, 27 points down, you have Donald Trump make
00:30:01.940 one remark and the entire mainstream media falls into line. And all we hear about is Donald Trump.
00:30:10.420 He's a threat. And then the media starts telling everybody he's a threat. He's a threat. He's a
00:30:15.220 threat. Then they go on the street to talk to the people that were listening to them and say,
00:30:19.940 what do you think is the most important part of this election? And then they regurgitate what they've
00:30:24.340 been told for the last six weeks. Well, I think it's Donald Trump. And then they have the audacity to then
00:30:28.980 come on the air and say, Canadians are telling us that Donald Trump is the biggest ballot question
00:30:34.420 in the next election. So when you create this feedback loop and pretend it doesn't exist,
00:30:40.180 that's the crazy part about it. But yes, the worst thing that could happen to the Liberal campaign
00:30:45.700 right now is if Donald Trump just said, you know what, I'm taking all the tariffs away, we're going to
00:30:51.300 focus on other things. I'll talk to you later. That would be the absolute worst thing that could happen
00:30:56.420 to the Liberal campaign because their fear machine would be very difficult to keep going.
00:31:02.340 And if Mark Carney was any type of leader, he would have already met with Donald Trump,
00:31:08.340 worked out what the issues are going to be, and then come to an agreement, and then he would be
00:31:13.220 able to go into the election. But this is the problem. He didn't do that. It's in their best interest
00:31:19.060 for this to continue. And I agree. As soon as the election's called, if, you know, heaven forbid,
00:31:25.220 that the Liberals win within a week, this will be gone. So it's so frustrating. And it really does feel
00:31:31.540 like we're being manipulated by the media and the way that they, anytime Donald Trump says anything
00:31:38.420 that can be relevant to Canada, anyway, that is a top story. That is what's plastered all over the
00:31:43.620 papers. Tanya, I'm going to get you to comment. But I want to draw your attention to this graph. This was
00:31:48.580 posted by Kirk Lubomov on X. And I think it really says it all because it says, what is the most
00:31:54.020 important factor when deciding your vote by age? And so you can see that the two top issues are
00:32:00.260 either reducing your cost of living or dealing with Donald Trump. And for Canadians over the age of 60,
00:32:07.540 God love them, 50% of them say that Trump is the top issue. And then all other age demographics,
00:32:13.620 18 to 29, 30 to 44, 45 to 59, they all say that reducing your cost of living is the number one
00:32:21.220 factor. And then you can look at how it translates into votes. Every age demographic has the conservatives
00:32:26.580 leading, except for the boomers, 60 plus, 50% of them will be voting for the Liberals. To me,
00:32:34.660 this shows media consumption, right? It's like younger people, anyone under 60,
00:32:40.180 especially anybody under 45, I think mostly gets their information and their news from independent
00:32:46.500 journalists and independent content creators on social media. Whereas the older generation are the
00:32:51.380 ones that are still glued to the CBC, still watching CTV, still reading the newspaper that gets delivered
00:32:57.860 to their door every day. What do you think, Tanya? For us here at Northern Perspective, a vast majority of
00:33:04.740 our audience is 55 and older. I think it's almost two thirds of our audience fits that age demographic.
00:33:10.820 So I'm not sure that Northern Perspective exactly lines up with that. But I know that the people in
00:33:17.140 our lives, like family members and friends who are in that age demographic, many of them do still get
00:33:21.700 their news from like cable news. So things that they see on TV, CBC, CTV, global news, etc.
00:33:28.900 And I'm wondering if that's because they're being bombarded with these messages that Trump bad,
00:33:35.220 Trump bad. But also I think the older demographic may be a little bit better insulated from the cost
00:33:42.420 of living crisis than people our age or people who are younger, like just starting out like 18 to 24.
00:33:49.460 Again, the people in our lives, some of them own multiple properties.
00:33:53.620 Most of them, at least their primary residence is paid off. They're not in debt. You know,
00:33:58.900 they've got their RRSPs lined up. They're, for all intents and purposes, very well off. So I don't
00:34:06.900 think they're being hit by this cost of living crisis the way that young people with families
00:34:11.380 or even young people fresh out of school are. So to them, when they're being bombarded with these
00:34:17.060 messages day in and day out from cable news being told that, well, Trump is such a problem,
00:34:21.620 and they're not actually feeling the cost of living crisis the way the rest of us are,
00:34:26.340 then yeah, I can see why they're responding in this manner.
00:34:28.980 Well, and that's the thing, right? It's the people that are voting liberal are liberal supporters that
00:34:34.820 watch the CBC that are insulated from this. As you said before, Candace, this is not to discount
00:34:41.140 everybody else in that demographic that has essentially aligned with the conservatives because
00:34:45.540 they are feeling this, or they have friends or family that are feeling this, and they're
00:34:51.220 getting news from multiple sources across the spectrum so they can be more objective about this.
00:34:56.820 And yeah, you know, should we all be concerned with the tariffs coming to Canada? Yes, we would be
00:35:04.100 we'd be irresponsible not to. However, we have to look at how did Canada get into this position
00:35:10.740 where we're this week that we can't do anything in the first place? That is 10 years of liberal
00:35:16.180 mismanagement, ineptitude, and they have just completely irresponsibly run our country.
00:35:22.820 Well, that's absolutely right. And I'll applaud you. I'm glad that you're reaching an older audience,
00:35:28.100 and hopefully, you know, that that 30% of the 60-plus generation that still is voting
00:35:34.020 for conservative, hopefully those are the ones that are watching your show and my show,
00:35:37.620 and they can spread the word to their friends and people in their peer group that there is an
00:35:41.780 alternative, that you don't have to get your information from the CBC. There are incredibly
00:35:46.580 skilled, well-researched, responsible, fact-based journalists and commentators out there. I'm
00:35:52.420 speaking to two of them right now with Northern Perspective, a fantastic channel that you should go
00:35:55.860 check out if you haven't already, where you can get the news every single day. Ryan and Tanya
00:36:01.060 break down the stories. They give you a very informed, very well-researched perspective on what
00:36:07.140 is happening in Canada, and it is not the same thing that you'll hear regurgitated from the legacy media
00:36:12.180 who gets paid by the Trudeau government, by the Liberal government, I should say,
00:36:17.060 because presumably Mark Kearney will continue that. Okay, I want to quickly move on to talk about
00:36:21.860 immigration because this is a story I've been wanting to talk about all week and haven't had time to,
00:36:25.380 and I just think it's so important. So we learned that Liberal leader Mark Kearney has added the
00:36:30.740 Century Initiative co-founder Mark Wiseman to his advisory council to Canada-US relations,
00:36:36.820 and so for folks who don't know, the Century Initiative is a pro-immigration lobby, and their
00:36:42.420 sole purpose, their sole advocacy is to get Canada to grow its population to 100 million people by 2021.
00:36:50.740 So if you thought that Canada was really overcrowded now, that cities were getting too big,
00:36:55.700 too congested, that the roads and the infrastructure aren't keeping up with the population growth,
00:36:59.940 well basically we would have to have the population, the massive increase in population that we had
00:37:05.700 over the last two years, the one that Trudeau actually had to walk back and say it was a massive
00:37:09.220 mistake. We would have to have that level of growth every single year to reach this target.
00:37:14.340 It's really unbelievable that there is a group that is seen as sort of like a blue chip initiative,
00:37:20.020 you know, they're sponsored by the Globe and Mail and they do these panels and roundtables,
00:37:26.420 advocating for a massive growth through immigration, not through supporting Canadian families and getting
00:37:31.540 Canadian women to have more children, but by just importing the third world basically. So Pierre
00:37:36.580 Poliev has slammed this appointment on mass immigration. We have a clip of him talking about it. Let's play that now.
00:37:43.300 The Liberals destroyed our immigration system in their first three terms in power. They followed
00:37:50.580 a radical globalist ideology of massive uncontrolled population growth that put strain on our housing
00:38:01.460 market, our health care and our job market. And so I think Pierre Poliev is sort of hitting the nail
00:38:08.180 on the head there. And I want to show this clip that Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party,
00:38:13.060 has posted. He writes on X, Red Alert, Mark Carney has hired Mark Wiseman of the Century Initiative,
00:38:19.220 an organization that wants to grow Canada's population to reach 100 million by the end of
00:38:22.420 the century. And then the clip that I'm about to show has Mark Wiseman talking about how we could
00:38:28.340 facilitate this growth. He literally just says that we should stop screening, that we shouldn't do security
00:38:34.660 screening of immigrants to Canada. We should just basically, anyone who wants to come,
00:38:40.020 we should let them in. Honestly, this is, this is crazy. This is so extreme. Here is Mark Wiseman in
00:38:46.180 his own words. Let the private sector move to bring people in and make and facilitate them being
00:38:52.260 able to do that. And you know, a lot of the screening and other stuff that we do, frankly,
00:38:58.900 is just bureaucracy. It's a waste of time. Let's let people in by and large. And if we have to do the
00:39:04.820 screening ex post, that's fine. To screen them once we're already in the country, what could possibly
00:39:10.420 go wrong? Ryan, what do you think of this? Well, we, yeah, we're quite familiar with the
00:39:17.540 Century Initiative. We did it. We did our own deep dive last last year on this. And it was so
00:39:24.900 disturbing to us to see this, especially when we started taking a look at what the Century Initiative's
00:39:32.020 main platform was. And then we took a look at Trudeau's 2021 Liberal Party platform. And the hair on our
00:39:39.780 next started standing up because you can line them up and they are point for point for point.
00:39:45.060 So essentially what looks like happened was a bunch of elites, a bunch of rich people got together and
00:39:50.980 said, Hey, let's get rich. And here's a good way that we can do that. We can bring in a whole bunch
00:39:56.180 of people take advantage of all of those tax dollars and all of the homes that are going to have to be
00:40:01.460 built for these people because some of their, their founders are members or CEOs of the largest lumber
00:40:07.300 companies in Canada. Well, we all know that lumber is used in housing and other people have different
00:40:13.300 interests in healthcare or any of the other services that are going to be essentially needed to be used
00:40:19.860 by a hundred million people over the next 70 odd years. So you have all of this coming together.
00:40:28.100 And their main premise is the quality of life is determined by the number of people in the country.
00:40:33.380 Well, we actually completely agree with that because what we've seen is the massive amounts
00:40:39.140 of people that have been influxed into Canada over the last four or five years has had a significant
00:40:46.420 decline on our quality of life. And it's not the type of people. It's not the people themselves.
00:40:51.780 That's the problem. It's the fact that the policies that we've been using in Canada,
00:40:57.060 they haven't bothered to keep up with housing. They haven't bothered to keep up with hospitals and
00:41:00.580 they haven't bothered to keep up with education or any of the other systems in there. So what we end
00:41:05.140 up having is a net poor society. And if you don't care where these people come from or what happens,
00:41:14.100 this results in all of these protests on the streets that go unchecked now by police.
00:41:18.900 And you have anti-Semitism rampant across the country, reminiscent of the 1930s.
00:41:24.580 It is it is just an insane, an insane type of type of approach. You think it was a conspiracy
00:41:32.740 theory if it wasn't out in the open. Well, it's so interesting because you're right. It is like
00:41:36.820 it's like a shortcut, like a cheating, a way to cheat the economy. Right. Because it's like Canada
00:41:42.180 is having a major issue with productivity. So much of the capital, so much of the investments that people
00:41:47.700 have are not being invested into Canadian companies to help them grow. They're doing what Mark Carney did,
00:41:52.580 which is, you know, move their headquarters to New York City, invest in the American stock market,
00:41:57.060 put your money in funds in Bermuda and just investing anywhere other than Canada because
00:42:01.700 the Canadian economy is stagnant. It's not growing. It's like these guys got into Trudeau's ear and they
00:42:07.060 said, hey, here's a hack. A way that you could grow your GDP is just grow the population. More people
00:42:12.660 means more money in the economy. Boom, snap your finger and it's done. You don't even have to worry about the
00:42:18.500 more tricky parts of actually encouraging people to start businesses and reinvest in their businesses
00:42:24.100 because the budget will balance itself. Right. Making a pro business environment. It's like you
00:42:28.020 can just cheat by bringing all these people in. And because it's the liberals, they put absolutely no
00:42:32.660 effort into any of the sort of infrastructure that you're talking about. On a deeper cultural level,
00:42:38.100 they put no effort into thinking about whether the population can properly absorb this new influx of
00:42:45.220 people, people from other countries, people who have other values, people that might not share
00:42:49.300 Canada value, Canadian values. And for the last decade, if anyone even dares to say that there's
00:42:54.500 such thing as Canadian values, they get slammed as being a racist and a bigot and xenophobic. Right.
00:43:01.140 We weren't even allowed to talk about what our shared Canadian values were. And so the outcome of
00:43:06.020 this is you have a whole bunch of people in Canada who may or may not even like Canada. They may have,
00:43:11.540 you know, bought into the liberal narrative that Canada is a racist, genocidal country, that the
00:43:15.860 white people of this country have committed atrocities against the environment and against
00:43:21.060 the local people who are here. And so they have like no love and no affinity for Canada. And you see
00:43:26.420 a fractured, fraying culture. You know, you mentioned anti-Semitism on the rise. Yes, that's true.
00:43:32.340 That's like one of a dozen cultural clashes that are happening in Canada. I mean, look at what's happened
00:43:37.060 with Chanda Arya being disqualified from the Liberal Party. And he said it was over his advocacy for
00:43:43.460 Hindu values and against extremism within the Calistani Sikh movement. So you have these clashes
00:43:50.260 that also exist and happen in places like Brampton and in places like Surrey, where Hindus and Sikhs
00:43:55.780 are openly fighting each other on the streets. You have the same kind of thing in the Chinese diaspora
00:44:00.580 community where there's so called police stations, Chinese monitored police stations, where they are
00:44:06.740 tracking down dissenting voices against the communist Chinese regime, people who might advocate for free
00:44:12.580 and independent Hong Kong or Taiwan. And they're being intimidated and who knows what else by these
00:44:18.180 Chinese state sponsored gangsters. All of this is happening in Canada. To me, it shows a broken society,
00:44:24.740 frankly. And I think that we need a real solution. Like I think this is an opportunity for Pierre
00:44:30.180 Polyev to say no, like we're not going to put up with this. We don't like the direction that the
00:44:35.300 Liberals have taken our country with immigration, they have broken the system. And they've broken
00:44:39.220 Canadians trust in immigration. I think that a bigger and bigger percentage of Canadians have just had
00:44:45.060 enough of mass migration. We want our country back, we want secure borders, we don't want illegal immigration.
00:44:50.500 And we want to be able to celebrate the things that make us Canadian, not in this sort of artificial
00:44:55.860 elbows up, Team Canada, just merely defined as being anti-American, but actually something deeper,
00:45:02.100 like the deeper bonds that hold us together as Canadians, our values. And I think that Pierre has
00:45:08.740 an opportunity. I don't know that he's really stepping up to it, but I have heard him at least
00:45:13.140 talking about the issue of immigration and how we need to change from what Trudeau is doing. Tanya,
00:45:18.900 I'll bring you in on this one. Yeah, I don't think Pierre can go too hard on it because then he'll get
00:45:23.860 criticized by the Liberals. And if you believe the polls, the Conservatives are currently down
00:45:28.500 slightly in the polls, so he doesn't want to go down any further. I think that we do need someone
00:45:35.460 to come in and unify the country. We had a interview with Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond earlier this
00:45:41.700 year, and that was one of the major things that he was talking about in terms of how we're going to get
00:45:46.980 Canada back. We need unity across this country. It's not enough just to have a bunch of people
00:45:50.900 from all over the world living in the same geographic space. We all need to be working
00:45:55.060 towards a common goal. We all need to have common values and beliefs. You don't have to believe the
00:46:02.260 exact same thing. You know, we celebrate Christmas, our neighbors down the street might celebrate
00:46:07.220 Hanukkah, but the fact is that we're all working towards a common goal of Canada, a common prosperity,
00:46:15.620 and that we want to get along and live peacefully together.
00:46:18.660 Well, and the one thing that Pierre has said about immigration is he said he wants to revert
00:46:24.500 our immigration system back to the way it was, which both Liberal and Conservative governments
00:46:29.380 agreed upon, and they didn't change it for decades because it was a merit-based system.
00:46:34.260 And we approached people coming into Canada as it was a privilege and not a right. You had to actually
00:46:43.780 be able to show that you're going to contribute something positively to Canada. You're going to
00:46:48.180 fit within the culture and you're going to, you know, help build a better Canada.
00:46:54.340 So he has said that, you know, the Liberals have completely broken the immigration system and that
00:46:58.900 we need to move back to that. You know, a lot of people have talked about the fact that, well,
00:47:03.380 you know, Pierre hasn't said that he's going to go with mass deportations. Well, you can't just
00:47:08.020 start deporting people that, unfortunately, the new system let in properly. You can deport people that
00:47:14.660 have have come in illegally. And I think that's what everyone is for. But that's the other thing
00:47:21.220 that Mark Kearney has kind of waffled on on his campaign side because, you know, he is for the
00:47:26.580 Century Initiative. He is for more taxpayers. And he doesn't care at all how bad things get in Canada
00:47:34.180 because, by all accounts, most of his investments aren't even in Canada anymore. So if the Canadian
00:47:38.820 economy tanks, his investments are insulated. I mean, how shocking is that, that we still don't
00:47:43.620 even know where his money is invested? You know, he says that he has a blind trust and that someone else
00:47:47.700 is handling it. We don't know who. It's kind of alarming that the prime minister, you know, we
00:47:52.820 know that he takes advantage of tax havens. We know that he used the Bermuda, as well as like a
00:47:57.700 dozen other countries to manage his funds and to make sure that they didn't have to pay Canadian
00:48:01.940 taxes until the very end. And yet, you know, this is a person that is, well, he is the prime minister.
00:48:07.780 I mean, sure, he technically should be a caretaker prime minister. He's not really acting like that.
00:48:11.540 He's acting like he's already elected. And if you do trust the polls, it looks like Canadians could head
00:48:16.660 that way. I'm hoping not. I'm so optimistic that Pierre is running such a good campaign so far
00:48:21.220 that the momentum is on his side. The polls show one thing, but my own eyes watching the rallies,
00:48:27.380 watching him, watching the excitement around him is really showing something else. So I'm hopeful
00:48:33.780 that that's the way that the election will go. Tanya, Brian, great to have you on. Thank you so much
00:48:39.220 for joining the show today. It's been such a fun conversation. Thanks for having us.
00:48:43.380 All right. Check out the Northern Perspective. They do wonderful analysis over there. All right,
00:48:47.620 folks, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace
00:48:50.740 Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Have a wonderful weekend, everyone. We'll be back
00:48:53.860 again on Monday. Thank you and God bless.