Juno News - March 28, 2025


Mark Carney PLAGIARIZED his Oxford Thesis: Report (Ft. Northern Perspective)


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Ryan and Tanya join Candice to discuss Mark Carney's latest plagiarism accusation, the latest Trump tariff threat, and why Pierre Polyvenc has momentum in the race. Candice is joined by the Northern Perspective's Ryan and Tania to discuss all of this and much more.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show. Happy Friday, everyone. We have
00:00:06.740 a great episode for you today. We're going to talk about Mark Carney and the latest
00:00:10.820 accusation of him being basically a pathological liar. This time he's being accused of plagiarizing
00:00:16.680 his Oxford thesis while in university, while in grad school. Over in the UK, we're going to talk
00:00:21.920 about Donald Trump and the latest tariff threat, which frankly, folks, I think is nothing but
00:00:25.920 fake news. And we're going to end the show talking about Pierre Polyev and his policy
00:00:30.600 announcements so far in the campaign. I am very excited today to be joined by some of my favorite
00:00:35.820 political commenters in Canada. They used to come on the show quite frequently. Now they're back on
00:00:41.820 this Candice Malcolm Show. Very pleased to be joined by the Northern Perspective couple, Ryan and Tanya.
00:00:47.900 Ryan and Tanya, welcome. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks so much for having us, Candice.
00:00:52.300 We're really excited to have the conversation. Thanks, Candice. It's an
00:00:55.780 absolute pleasure. Oh, great. Well, I haven't talked to you guys in quite a while. So I want
00:01:00.420 to know, how do you feel about the campaign so far? How do you think it's going? Who do you
00:01:04.560 think has momentum at this point? I'll start with you, Tanya. I think that Pierre Polyev has
00:01:10.100 incredible momentum. He was here in Hamilton the other night and we went to a rally where there was
00:01:14.460 over 5,000 people from what we heard. We heard that he had upwards of 8,000 people trying to get in
00:01:21.840 at the rally in North York a few days before that and then he had a rally in BC, I think it was last
00:01:28.220 night, that had upwards of 5,000 people. I just don't think that Mark Carney is getting those kinds of
00:01:33.480 numbers. Well, Mark Carney certainly doesn't have the sort of charisma and the natural talents as a
00:01:39.420 politician as Pierre. Seeing his rallies is really exciting. Also, seeing him door knocking in the
00:01:43.320 way that he has that sort of interpersonal skills, he really is stepping up and painting a very
00:01:48.040 positive vision for Canada. Honestly, when I watch some of his videos, I feel inspired and, you know,
00:01:52.580 usually political commentators like myself and probably like you two, you get a little jaded and
00:01:57.460 you don't really feel inspired by political messages, but I find that Pierre is really hitting
00:02:01.760 the mark. What do you think there, Ryan? Yeah, so one of the things that we did recently is we went
00:02:07.920 back to the 1984 leadership debate during that election between Brian Mulrooney and John Turner
00:02:14.740 and, you know, people have their opinion on the results of the election and what Brian Mulrooney did
00:02:20.860 and didn't do, but in terms of the messaging during that election, we reviewed that right before the
00:02:28.300 election was actually called and we'd remarked on the fact that the messaging coming from Brian
00:02:32.940 Mulrooney was very positive. It was it was still somewhat critical of John Turner, but not overly so
00:02:38.780 and he didn't, he didn't go into name calling or anything like that. And we had said that this is the
00:02:45.640 messaging that Pierre needs to pivot to if he wants to really gain some momentum in this election. And lo and
00:02:52.720 behold, it was almost overnight, he transitioned from official leader of the opposition to prime
00:02:58.820 ministerial candidate in his messaging, all new ads came out. And it was it was the exact same style
00:03:06.920 where he was talking about the failings of the liberals, he was talking about the failings of Mark
00:03:12.240 Carney, but not in such a way that would turn off voters. And then he spent the rest of his time
00:03:17.940 really hammering out that hopeful message in in a way that, you know, you really felt energized at
00:03:25.740 the end of it. And that's the messaging that has been put out by the conservatives throughout this
00:03:30.860 campaign. And it's it's really starting to resonate with people across the country. And I think that's
00:03:35.380 evident in the rally numbers. It's interesting, because the liberals love to accuse the conservatives
00:03:39.900 of being negative, and you know, spreading division and hate. And yet, objectively, in this campaign,
00:03:46.180 what I do, I totally agree with you that Polyev was very talented at pointing out Trudeau's flaws.
00:03:52.500 But since his campaign has already sort of risen above the fray, and he does keep things positive.
00:03:57.060 And what I've seen more and more from Mark Carney is this sort of like, cheap shots, it's almost out
00:04:03.940 of character for Mark Carney, because he does seem like a very like classy, accomplished guy. But then
00:04:08.580 it's like someone's telling him to go after Polyev. And he's doing it in such an awkward way. I want to
00:04:15.060 talk about this scandal that broke in the National Post this morning, a huge explosive story. In the
00:04:20.580 National Post, it says, exclusive Mark Carney faces plagiarism accusations for his 1995 Oxford doctoral
00:04:28.980 thesis. And here we have Kath Catherine Levesque, going through it in detail, pointing out how there have
00:04:37.860 been three academics that have reviewed his thesis, and they have some serious problems with the way
00:04:43.860 that it was written, several instances being pointed out of Carney quoting other people's work verbatim,
00:04:51.620 line by line, but without quotations, and without sources, which is, I mean, that is plagiarism,
00:04:57.700 that is textbook plagiarism. And to see it over and over and over it. So let me just read a little bit from
00:05:04.740 the National Post here. It says the National Post obtained a copy of Carney's 1995 thesis for his
00:05:09.060 doctorate in economics from Oxford University, titled The Dynamic Advantage of Competition. It shows
00:05:14.740 10 instances of apparent plagiarism, according to the judgment of three university academics who reviewed
00:05:20.500 the material. In several sections of the thesis, Carney used full quotes, paraphrases, or slightly
00:05:27.380 modified quotes from four previous works without proper acknowledgement or attribution. And so this is a
00:05:34.500 big no-no in the academic world. Like I remember back to being a university student, and I can't tell
00:05:39.300 you how many times my advisor or the dean of the school or the head of the department would come and
00:05:45.860 talk to students, you know, talk to the class about the importance of not plagiarizing. Like in the
00:05:51.140 academic world, this is just the absolute no-no. And the fact that he apparently did this back then,
00:06:00.580 you know, we just lived through several examples in the United States of high-profile people
00:06:05.860 being accused of plagiarism. It is a very serious accusation. And I think that it just shows a lot
00:06:11.140 about Mark Carney's character, that he would be willing to pass off others' work for his own. It's sort
00:06:16.740 of reminiscent of some of the things that he's done on the campaign so far, taking credit for saving
00:06:21.220 Canada from the 2008 financial crisis, even though he was just Bank of Governor of Canada. And it was
00:06:25.780 obviously the Finance Minister Jim Flaherty and the Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who had to make all
00:06:29.620 the tough decisions. He also claimed that he helped Paul Martin balance the budget, even though records
00:06:35.220 show that he wasn't involved in the government at all in the 90s when Paul Martin was the Finance
00:06:39.460 Minister balancing the budget. So I'll put this one to you, Tanya. Like what is your takeaway of this
00:06:46.260 entire story?
00:06:46.980 I think the important thing behind this story, at least what it implies, is that if he plagiarized
00:06:53.140 his doctoral thesis, then does that mean he didn't earn his doctorate? I guess that's the question that
00:07:00.500 we have to ask. Because as you said, plagiarizing is a huge issue within the academic world and you
00:07:06.740 can't do that. So then if you plagiarize the thesis that your doctorate is built on, what does that imply
00:07:12.740 about your doctorate? I mean, it can have, I think it could have major career ramifications. And I
00:07:17.860 don't know if you can go back and have it revoked, have your doctorate revoked. I don't know if these
00:07:21.940 accusations are serious enough to warrant that. I think it would probably require a much deeper
00:07:26.900 academic review, but it seriously puts those issues up on the table. What do you think, Ryan?
00:07:33.140 Yeah, and there are there are cases where doctors have been revoked in those situations. I know in the
00:07:38.900 article that the person that was overseeing his doctorate defended him, which is interesting. I
00:07:46.900 don't know if they've actually read the cases that have been cited because it's very, very blatant
00:07:53.380 in terms of the passages that they're talking about. And I think what it demonstrates is that
00:07:57.700 even back then, Mark Carney thought he was smarter than everybody else. He thought everybody else was
00:08:03.300 just a stepping stone for him, that he would step on the heads of other people in order so he could
00:08:09.140 reach higher up in society. And you see that throughout his career. And in our video, we raised
00:08:17.300 the question, does he get that job at Goldman Sachs if he actually didn't get his doctorate? And if he
00:08:22.340 didn't get the job at Goldman Sachs, does he then become governor of Bank of Canada in the 2008 financial
00:08:28.020 crisis? Oh, no, we would never have made it out of the 2008 financial crisis if Mark Carney didn't
00:08:33.540 actually, you know, become bank of her governor Bank of Canada, so he would have us believe. And
00:08:39.780 then, you know, it takes them all the way here. But it really gives us a glimpse into the character
00:08:46.100 and the business practices of this guy, who doesn't seem to be bothered that he can take credit for other
00:08:54.180 people's accomplishments, take credit for other people's work. How many other situations in his
00:08:58.580 career has he done that, and made millions, if not billions of dollars for himself and his companies
00:09:06.340 that he's been involved with. So now you see him on the campaign trail plagiarizing the entire
00:09:11.620 conservative campaign. Now, politicians have done this, you know, throughout many instances. But in this
00:09:18.020 case, it's even more egregious, because the Liberal Party themselves have been literally criticizing
00:09:23.300 and demonizing the conservatives for the past two years, just on the carbon tax alone,
00:09:27.540 that if you don't agree with the carbon tax, you are a climate denier, you hate the environment,
00:09:32.500 you're going to burn the planet. And the first thing that they do in in their announcement is,
00:09:36.740 by the way, we're getting rid of the carbon tax. And all the things that we said before,
00:09:40.900 don't worry, because Trump's here. And that's where we want you to focus.
00:09:43.940 Well, isn't that interesting? Okay, we have a couple of examples. And I think Ryan just just
00:09:48.740 touched on something you said, that this is based on hubris and an ego, like arrogance,
00:09:53.460 the fact that he thinks that he's smarter than everyone, and he wouldn't get away with it. Okay,
00:09:56.820 to go back to myself, I wrote a thesis for my master's degree, right? And it isn't that hard
00:10:02.820 to just put quotes around something that you're getting from someone else, or a footnote, and put
00:10:07.220 a citation at the bottom, right? Like, that's, that's all it takes, you are allowed to quote other
00:10:11.540 people to your heart's content. In a thesis, every single page can include dozens of quotes from other
00:10:17.780 people's works, all you have to do is just add a couple of punctuation marks, and the footnote,
00:10:24.340 like you said. And so it just seems almost lazy to me that someone would do this. It's like, yes,
00:10:29.780 they have to be arrogant to believe they can get away with it. But also lazy, I just want to go
00:10:32.980 through for the audience, a couple of examples here. So as you can see right here, this is from
00:10:38.420 a so you can see on the screen, over top of one another. So the first line is what he took from
00:10:44.020 another person's work. And then the second one is his own. So a 1990 paper by someone with the name
00:10:49.940 Porter writes first government intervention can impede international competition and artificially
00:10:55.060 support domestic profits. And you can see word for word, verbatim, Carney had that in his own
00:11:00.340 thesis. Again, how hard is it to just put quotes around it and a footnote? And then again, here it
00:11:05.140 is again, another one by the same person Porter in a 1990 paper. And it says you can see, you know,
00:11:11.860 line by line, second in an industry or economy, and it goes on. Here's another, a third example,
00:11:16.980 social norms, values, and affect the nature of home demand. And you can see just over and over again,
00:11:23.460 there's 10 of these examples where he just uses the exact same phrase from someone else's paper,
00:11:29.140 you know, in 1995, maybe the internet wasn't as readily available. And we didn't have AI tools that
00:11:33.620 could easily find this kind of thing. He wasn't expecting technology to catch up this way. But
00:11:38.180 these kinds of things have a way of catching up to you and really hitting an opportune time here.
00:11:43.300 Sorry, Ryan, to go back to what you were saying. Sure. And the other thing that it calls into question,
00:11:48.420 this is where it'd be really interesting to understand the complete context of the paper,
00:11:52.500 because if he is not quoting and plagiarizing these specific ideas, my question to the three
00:12:01.460 professors that have reviewed this is, in terms of the content that he wrote before and after this,
00:12:08.660 is all of that content prefaced on these plagiarized passages? Because if so,
00:12:14.980 then potentially none of this is his idea at all. And it calls the entire paper into question. And
00:12:21.940 people may say, well, who cares? He forgot to cite specific passages in a paper that was written,
00:12:30.020 you know, 20 years ago. Well, it matters because a thesis is supposed to be your idea. The citations
00:12:37.860 are supposed to be passages that support what you're trying to say. I went to school for philosophy,
00:12:44.580 and I'll wait for everybody to make their jokes now. But when it comes to philosophy, that's all
00:12:49.940 you're writing is papers. And you have to be very careful on that. So if all I'm doing is taking
00:12:56.340 ideas from other people, five or six different sources, and then stitching them together and
00:13:01.140 passing it off on as my own, that's not my work. That's everybody else's work, no matter how I write it.
00:13:06.980 Well, he seems to have a history of taking credit for other people's work. But to that point again,
00:13:13.140 right, like all of the career success that he has had, based on getting this doctorate degree,
00:13:19.380 being an Oxford graduate, being a scholar, being a very bright, intelligent man, I mean,
00:13:24.180 this does call it all into question, you know, would he have gotten the job at Goldman Sachs had he
00:13:28.660 not had the PhD? Well, we don't know. But if he had had a PhD, and then had it revoked for plagiarism,
00:13:35.460 I bet very much that he would not have become the governor of the Bank of Canada or the governor
00:13:39.940 of the Bank of England. What do you think about all this, Tanya?
00:13:43.380 Yeah, I mean, we can't go based off what could have happened or should have happened, etc, etc. But
00:13:50.180 it's probably a good supposition that, again, if you're disgraced by having your doctorate revoked,
00:13:58.100 I don't think you're going to be getting those prestigious jobs.
00:14:00.260 Exactly. Okay, I want to move on. This is this is a story that I almost think I would sum up as
00:14:06.580 fake news Friday, because the media just want to attach this storyline that Donald Trump is somehow
00:14:13.220 the greatest enemy that is ever known to Canadians, and that he is trying to destroy us as a country.
00:14:18.340 So anytime they have the opportunity to insert him back into the campaign, they will. I'm reluctant to
00:14:24.420 even talk about it. But obviously, it is a big story in the news. So I'll cover it with the asterisk
00:14:28.820 that I think it's fake news. And I will explain why in a moment. But the story out of CBC News this
00:14:34.740 week and big story yesterday was that Trump is going ahead with the 25% tariffs on auto. Here we
00:14:42.260 have a clip of President Trump in the Oval Office talking about this 25% tariff that will be applied
00:14:48.820 on all finished vehicles imported into the United States starting on April 3. Let's play that clip.
00:14:53.780 What we're going to be doing is a 25% tariff on all cars that are not made in the United States,
00:15:00.660 if they're made in the United States is absolutely no tariff. We started off with a two and a half
00:15:05.300 percent base, which is what we were at. And we go to 25%. And basically, as you know, and as you've
00:15:12.900 been saying, not reporting as accurately as it should be reported, because it's a massive story.
00:15:17.620 Businesses coming back to the United States.
00:15:22.020 Okay, so one of the things that's quite clear there is he says that the tariffs apply on imported
00:15:28.980 vehicles in the United States, obviously vehicles made in the United States would not be subject
00:15:32.500 to this tariff. And if you go on to the White House website, there is a fact sheet on there. And
00:15:38.180 I'm going to fact check the storyline that says that this is a huge tax on Canadians and that we have
00:15:44.660 to insert Trump back into the center of the campaign. If you go to this fact sheet, it says
00:15:50.500 right here that importers of automobiles under the Canada, Mexico, United States agreement,
00:15:56.260 sorry, the United States, Mexico, Canada agreement, the USMCA agreement will be given the opportunity
00:16:02.420 to certify their US content and systems will be implemented such that the 25% tariff will not apply
00:16:08.580 on the value of the US content. And it also says the USMCA compliant automobile parts will remain
00:16:15.460 tariff free until the Secretary of Commerce in consultation with US Border Protection establishes
00:16:21.700 a process to apply tariffs to the non US content. So Trump isn't even saying that all of the cars that
00:16:28.580 come from Canada in the United States will be taxed. He's just saying that the Porsche, because as we know,
00:16:33.060 the manufacturing corridor is such that an automobile will be made in part in the US,
00:16:39.140 in part in Canada, parts will go back and forth across the border as much as like a dozen times
00:16:43.220 before the piece is complete. And so there's going to be a formula that exempts the American parts.
00:16:48.260 And so it'll only be a portion. So it's not like they're slapping a 25% tax on all cars,
00:16:52.340 it's just a portion of the cars that come from Canada. And there's going to be an exemption possibly for
00:16:58.180 USMCA parts that have been made in Canada. So again, I think that the media is blowing this all
00:17:05.060 out of proportion, because they know that liberal voters, left wing voters, and baby boomers,
00:17:10.580 particularly voters over 60, are very worried about Trump. And this is a very motivating factor
00:17:15.300 for them. So I think that the media is inserting this into the election to try to derail the
00:17:19.700 conservatives and peer poly of Orion. What do you think? Yeah, it's,
00:17:26.900 it's very disappointing to see how the mainstream media is jumping on this, it seems that whenever
00:17:32.740 peer poly of makes a very good policy announcement, all of a sudden, they will come up with this major
00:17:38.340 Trump story to try and distract from it. And this is a prime example. Because if a, you know,
00:17:44.580 if Ford sends a part up to Canada, and then Canada does something with it, and then it sends it back,
00:17:54.100 by this definition, that doesn't seem to be subject to this tariff, because a, the original part came
00:18:00.180 to the United States, Canada worked on it, and then it came back. And, and I think a lot of Canadians that
00:18:04.900 aren't involved in the auto sector, they may not, they may know anecdotally, yes, they're, you know,
00:18:10.580 they're very integrated, but they may not know how much they are integrated, like parts are constantly
00:18:16.020 moving between factories across the border back and forth. Like, it's not like, you know, half the
00:18:22.260 car is made in the US, and then they ship it up to Canada, and then the other half is built, and then
00:18:25.780 it's done. That's not how it works. It's, they treat it as if there's no border at all. And they're
00:18:32.660 just, you know, sending it down the road to the next factory in order to actually build the rest of this.
00:18:37.860 So the majority of the car isn't even going to be subject to the tariff. But if you listen to Mark
00:18:45.300 Carney, hundreds of thousands of people are going to lose their jobs. And the media is just picking
00:18:49.780 this up and running with it. It's actually disgrace that they are fear mongering this badly. They are
00:18:55.540 amping up the anxiety for these Canadians. And it's completely unnecessary. And it's completely
00:19:00.580 fictitious. Well, speaking of amping up the fear, I think that Mark Carney really went over the top.
00:19:07.700 This is how he was responding. Speaking at a press conference in Ottawa, he said that Canada's
00:19:13.780 relationship with the United States as we know it is over. Let me play that clip.
00:19:18.340 The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and
00:19:24.420 tight security and military cooperations is over.
00:19:28.900 It seems a little dramatic. What do you think, Tanya?
00:19:31.620 Yeah, absolutely. We actually commented on this video recently and we were appalled. Mark Carney is
00:19:39.300 the head of the Liberal Party and therefore the prime minister right now, but he doesn't have a
00:19:43.140 seat in the House of Commons. So he's what's considered a caretaker prime minister. And for
00:19:47.540 somebody who's supposed to be a caretaker, he's not doing a very good job of taking care of our
00:19:51.860 relationship with the United States. After making a comment like that, you know, he hasn't been down
00:19:57.620 to the States to visit with Trump. It sounds like the office of President Trump had tried to contact
00:20:03.620 the prime minister's office and was told, well, we'll talk to you later kind of thing. He doesn't
00:20:10.100 really seem too intent to repair that relationship or help foster that relationship. He really is
00:20:17.620 trying to make Trump out to be the boogeyman. Well, and the reason for that is because that's
00:20:22.500 the only way that the Liberals are going to be able to try to win this election and they know it. The
00:20:26.660 only reason that, you know, the election is allegedly as close as it is, if you believe the polls,
00:20:33.140 is because they are scaring the bejesus out of everybody or trying to in regards to the in 0.93
00:20:41.860 in regards to Trump. Now, you know, we've we've said on record we don't believe or we don't agree
00:20:48.180 with a lot of what Trump does. But is he the existential threat to to Canada? No. And neither
00:20:54.180 is the United States and neither are Americans, which all Carney seems to be saying, talking about
00:20:59.620 division and fear is what we need to stand up to the Americans. I'm sorry, but the majority of
00:21:04.500 Americans are wonderful people. They are, you know, our neighbors. We we've enjoyed a long and fruitful
00:21:12.500 relationship. This is the the most secure and prosperous relationship in world history when it
00:21:20.820 comes to two nations working side by side. And for him to come out and say that he's essentially
00:21:25.860 implying that our alliance with the United States is over. OK, what does that mean if tomorrow China
00:21:30.980 decides to send a bunch of drones or a bunch of troops over the Arctic? Does that mean the U.S.
00:21:36.500 is going to look at what Carney said and said, well, you said you don't need our help anymore?
00:21:40.420 Well, and further to that, the hold on. Sorry, I lost my train of thought. Well, let me just jump in
00:21:46.980 there because one of the things that we did a deep dive on earlier in the week is this idea that Carney
00:21:52.100 does have this affection towards China. He does have this relationship, this friendship. You know,
00:21:56.980 the news broke, I believe it was from the CBC that he took that after he became Trudeau's advisor,
00:22:03.620 his company took a $274 million loan from the State Bank of China. And there was also a report
00:22:11.540 from 2024 where he talked about how he wanted the Chinese UN to be the global reserve currency. He
00:22:17.700 said it already was a global reserve currency, and that is a good thing. And so when you think about the
00:22:22.660 world that we live in and, you know, if he wants to move past the relationship with the United States,
00:22:27.220 you know, we've benefited from an incredibly secure and peaceful time in human history because America
00:22:34.580 has been the superpower, the sole superpower. And this idea that we should turn our backs on America,
00:22:40.100 pivot towards China. I mean, China does not share our values, let's just put it that way. And this idea that 0.60
00:22:45.860 he believes that their green economy, that their, you know, willingness to play along with a lot of his sort of
00:22:54.020 net zero carbon fund idea ideas and initiatives is, is a fact that we should be aligning ourselves.
00:23:01.860 I don't think most Canadians think about that. I don't think most Canadians would agree if you were
00:23:06.260 to ask even the sort of elbows up crowd. I mean, I give a hard time to the older boomers. I know a lot 1.00
00:23:12.820 of our viewers are boomers. I don't think they're all bad. I think most of them are incredibly wonderful,
00:23:16.340 hardworking people. But the people who have fallen for this line that America is an existential threat
00:23:21.380 to Canada, and that we have to turn our backs to them. Like, take the proposition, would you rather
00:23:26.900 be closely aligned with the United States, who shares our values, who we've had this peaceful
00:23:31.060 relationship for since the beginning of our country? Or would you rather have a relationship
00:23:35.460 and be closer aligned, and be giving away our sovereignty to China? I don't think that most Canadians
00:23:40.900 would choose China. I don't think any would. And the fact that Mark Carney speaks warmly about China,
00:23:45.060 to me is almost disqualifying. Tanya, what do you think?
00:23:48.740 Yeah, I agree with you completely, Candace. As you said, China does not share our values. 1.00
00:23:55.860 They do not share our Western values, and they don't share democratic values. I personally would
00:24:02.100 rather be aligned with the United States, who has been our friend for many, many years. And we have
00:24:08.740 grown our countries together, our economies. And, you know, we've really flourished together as partners,
00:24:17.300 instead of just turning our back on the states and going and buddying up with China. I know, 0.74
00:24:23.620 many Canadians do not like Donald Trump as a president. And that's fine. But I don't think
00:24:28.900 that we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Well, just to turn it around, we didn't have,
00:24:34.820 you know, all of the conservative voters saying that, you know, Joe Biden was an existential threat
00:24:39.700 to the United States, and that, you know, we need to break off. And then, you know,
00:24:43.940 people on the other side would say, well, he never threatened to annex Canada. And I would say,
00:24:47.940 neither did Trump. That was a joke, because he was pointing, you know, he was humiliating Trudeau,
00:24:53.380 because all Trudeau and his government was doing for the last four years is trash talking a former
00:24:57.300 President of the United States in the House of Commons. What do you expect to happen? And as for,
00:25:02.820 as for China, the issue is that the vast majority of Canadians don't seem to know how much of a
00:25:09.780 disregard for our way of life and our democracy that China actually has. They have been working 1.00
00:25:15.940 to undermine our democracy for over 25 years. They started in British Columbia. They've been
00:25:22.340 bankrolling underground casinos to try to manipulate the diaspora community. People who've tried to escape 0.80
00:25:28.500 China and come here. They're trying to position themselves to annex Taiwan in the middle of 0.98
00:25:35.060 everything going on over in Asia. They're telling the Philippine government to stay out of it to let
00:25:40.580 them like there is so many things that that are going on that Canadians are just not aware of because
00:25:47.540 CBC, CTV, global, global mail, all of these mainstream media outlets, they've just fallen prey to,
00:25:54.340 well, what do we need to do in order to get Mark Carney elected so we can continue to receive
00:25:59.700 our government handout of 1.3 billion to the CBC and 800 million to the rest of the media.
00:26:05.860 It's so short-sighted and it's so disappointing. I want to move on to this story that I did a deep
00:26:10.420 dive on earlier this morning. The video's up on YouTube and you can find the article on Juno News.
00:26:15.220 The Eurasian group president Ian Bremmer wrote an article where he said that he predicts that Canada
00:26:21.940 will quietly fold to the Americans after the election campaign. Okay, so why does this matter?
00:26:27.140 Ian Bremmer is the head of the Eurasia group and if the Eurasia group sounds familiar, it's because that is
00:26:33.140 where Mark Carney's wife, Diane Fox Carney, that's where she works. She started working there in 2021. 0.97
00:26:38.740 Who else works for the Eurasia group? Gerald Butts. Gerald Butts was Justin Trudeau's primary secretary,
00:26:44.340 his best friend, his policy architect. He is a hard left environmentalist who was very much behind the
00:26:51.140 carbon tax. Of course, he got thrown under the bus by Justin Trudeau over the whole SNC-Lavallon scandal
00:26:57.380 and then he picked up a cushy job with, you guessed it, the Eurasia group. So he was there and
00:27:03.780 Evan Solomon, who was a star liberal candidate, who was a CBC journalist, he got kicked out of his role
00:27:10.180 as a journalist because he was selling art illicitly without disclosing it to the CBC for commissions that
00:27:17.780 he wasn't telling anybody about. So he was interviewing people for his job as a CBC journalist and then he
00:27:23.380 was selling them art and getting a commission, very unethical. The CBC fired him. Well, guess who he
00:27:28.180 was selling his art to? He was selling his art to Mark Carney, as was reported in the UK Guardian. So
00:27:33.540 it's all kind of twisted together. Evan Solomon publishes the website, GZero Media, which is where
00:27:41.700 this article was published. And again, Ian Bremmer is a president. So he is like an insider in the know,
00:27:46.820 he's a political risk analyst, and his job is to analyze political risks and then advise his
00:27:56.420 clients on them. So he is in the know, he understands. He talks to people in Carney's team,
00:28:01.780 Carney's wife, Carney's policy advisor, and one of Carney's star candidates, presumably he's friends
00:28:08.260 with Mark Carney as well. And he is saying in a blog post, I don't know why he would publish this,
00:28:14.420 but you can read it for yourself. He's literally talking about how everybody is afraid of Donald
00:28:20.580 Trump and his tariffs. The tariffs, you know, because the United States' economy is so big,
00:28:25.620 the other players don't have a bargaining chip. So both Canada and Mexico can sort of like pretend
00:28:30.500 that they're going to fight against Trump. But at the end of the day, everybody knows that they're
00:28:34.100 going to cave. And he literally writes, I expect Ottawa will quietly fold after the vote to ensure the
00:28:40.180 ongoing relations with the US remain functional. So to me, Ryan, this is all fake. This is all pretend.
00:28:48.580 The whole tough talk, the relationship is over, we're going to fight back against Trump, elbows up.
00:28:53.860 It's all a charade. It's all a show. And there, the truth is written right there, that as soon as
00:28:59.300 the campaign is over, Mark Carney will just fold to the Americans and will carry on. To me, it's so
00:29:06.100 insanely frustrating that this is exposed right here and that this isn't getting as much attention.
00:29:11.300 What do you think? Well, if Canadians need any proof of what you just talked about,
00:29:16.900 they just need to do one thing. Remember what has happened to this country between 2016
00:29:24.020 and December of 2024. Look what the Liberals did. They've completely divided everybody. They told
00:29:30.580 everybody that this is a post-national state. We're not even, you know, technically a country anymore.
00:29:35.060 We don't have a Canadian identity. Be ashamed of your past. Be ashamed of all of our symbols.
00:29:39.940 We're taking them off the passport. We're ripping down statues. And you need to be afraid and ashamed
00:29:46.820 of who you are. And by the way, please continue to pay your taxes accordingly. So you have all of
00:29:53.700 that. And then all of a sudden, when the Liberals are 20, 27 points down, you have Donald Trump make
00:30:01.940 one remark and the entire mainstream media falls into line. And all we hear about is Donald Trump.
00:30:10.420 He's a threat. And then the media starts telling everybody he's a threat. He's a threat. He's a
00:30:15.220 threat. Then they go on the street to talk to the people that were listening to them and say,
00:30:19.940 what do you think is the most important part of this election? And then they regurgitate what they've
00:30:24.340 been told for the last six weeks. Well, I think it's Donald Trump. And then they have the audacity to then
00:30:28.980 come on the air and say, Canadians are telling us that Donald Trump is the biggest ballot question
00:30:34.420 in the next election. So when you create this feedback loop and pretend it doesn't exist,
00:30:40.180 that's the crazy part about it. But yes, the worst thing that could happen to the Liberal campaign
00:30:45.700 right now is if Donald Trump just said, you know what, I'm taking all the tariffs away, we're going to
00:30:51.300 focus on other things. I'll talk to you later. That would be the absolute worst thing that could happen
00:30:56.420 to the Liberal campaign because their fear machine would be very difficult to keep going.
00:31:02.340 And if Mark Carney was any type of leader, he would have already met with Donald Trump,
00:31:08.340 worked out what the issues are going to be, and then come to an agreement, and then he would be
00:31:13.220 able to go into the election. But this is the problem. He didn't do that. It's in their best interest
00:31:19.060 for this to continue. And I agree. As soon as the election's called, if, you know, heaven forbid,
00:31:25.220 that the Liberals win within a week, this will be gone. So it's so frustrating. And it really does feel
00:31:31.540 like we're being manipulated by the media and the way that they, anytime Donald Trump says anything
00:31:38.420 that can be relevant to Canada, anyway, that is a top story. That is what's plastered all over the
00:31:43.620 papers. Tanya, I'm going to get you to comment. But I want to draw your attention to this graph. This was
00:31:48.580 posted by Kirk Lubomov on X. And I think it really says it all because it says, what is the most
00:31:54.020 important factor when deciding your vote by age? And so you can see that the two top issues are
00:32:00.260 either reducing your cost of living or dealing with Donald Trump. And for Canadians over the age of 60,
00:32:07.540 God love them, 50% of them say that Trump is the top issue. And then all other age demographics,
00:32:13.620 18 to 29, 30 to 44, 45 to 59, they all say that reducing your cost of living is the number one
00:32:21.220 factor. And then you can look at how it translates into votes. Every age demographic has the conservatives
00:32:26.580 leading, except for the boomers, 60 plus, 50% of them will be voting for the Liberals. To me, 0.89
00:32:34.660 this shows media consumption, right? It's like younger people, anyone under 60,
00:32:40.180 especially anybody under 45, I think mostly gets their information and their news from independent
00:32:46.500 journalists and independent content creators on social media. Whereas the older generation are the
00:32:51.380 ones that are still glued to the CBC, still watching CTV, still reading the newspaper that gets delivered
00:32:57.860 to their door every day. What do you think, Tanya? For us here at Northern Perspective, a vast majority of
00:33:04.740 our audience is 55 and older. I think it's almost two thirds of our audience fits that age demographic.
00:33:10.820 So I'm not sure that Northern Perspective exactly lines up with that. But I know that the people in
00:33:17.140 our lives, like family members and friends who are in that age demographic, many of them do still get
00:33:21.700 their news from like cable news. So things that they see on TV, CBC, CTV, global news, etc.
00:33:28.900 And I'm wondering if that's because they're being bombarded with these messages that Trump bad,
00:33:35.220 Trump bad. But also I think the older demographic may be a little bit better insulated from the cost
00:33:42.420 of living crisis than people our age or people who are younger, like just starting out like 18 to 24.
00:33:49.460 Again, the people in our lives, some of them own multiple properties.
00:33:53.620 Most of them, at least their primary residence is paid off. They're not in debt. You know,
00:33:58.900 they've got their RRSPs lined up. They're, for all intents and purposes, very well off. So I don't
00:34:06.900 think they're being hit by this cost of living crisis the way that young people with families
00:34:11.380 or even young people fresh out of school are. So to them, when they're being bombarded with these
00:34:17.060 messages day in and day out from cable news being told that, well, Trump is such a problem,
00:34:21.620 and they're not actually feeling the cost of living crisis the way the rest of us are,
00:34:26.340 then yeah, I can see why they're responding in this manner.
00:34:28.980 Well, and that's the thing, right? It's the people that are voting liberal are liberal supporters that
00:34:34.820 watch the CBC that are insulated from this. As you said before, Candace, this is not to discount
00:34:41.140 everybody else in that demographic that has essentially aligned with the conservatives because
00:34:45.540 they are feeling this, or they have friends or family that are feeling this, and they're
00:34:51.220 getting news from multiple sources across the spectrum so they can be more objective about this.
00:34:56.820 And yeah, you know, should we all be concerned with the tariffs coming to Canada? Yes, we would be
00:35:04.100 we'd be irresponsible not to. However, we have to look at how did Canada get into this position
00:35:10.740 where we're this week that we can't do anything in the first place? That is 10 years of liberal
00:35:16.180 mismanagement, ineptitude, and they have just completely irresponsibly run our country.
00:35:22.820 Well, that's absolutely right. And I'll applaud you. I'm glad that you're reaching an older audience,
00:35:28.100 and hopefully, you know, that that 30% of the 60-plus generation that still is voting
00:35:34.020 for conservative, hopefully those are the ones that are watching your show and my show,
00:35:37.620 and they can spread the word to their friends and people in their peer group that there is an
00:35:41.780 alternative, that you don't have to get your information from the CBC. There are incredibly
00:35:46.580 skilled, well-researched, responsible, fact-based journalists and commentators out there. I'm
00:35:52.420 speaking to two of them right now with Northern Perspective, a fantastic channel that you should go
00:35:55.860 check out if you haven't already, where you can get the news every single day. Ryan and Tanya
00:36:01.060 break down the stories. They give you a very informed, very well-researched perspective on what
00:36:07.140 is happening in Canada, and it is not the same thing that you'll hear regurgitated from the legacy media
00:36:12.180 who gets paid by the Trudeau government, by the Liberal government, I should say,
00:36:17.060 because presumably Mark Kearney will continue that. Okay, I want to quickly move on to talk about
00:36:21.860 immigration because this is a story I've been wanting to talk about all week and haven't had time to,
00:36:25.380 and I just think it's so important. So we learned that Liberal leader Mark Kearney has added the
00:36:30.740 Century Initiative co-founder Mark Wiseman to his advisory council to Canada-US relations,
00:36:36.820 and so for folks who don't know, the Century Initiative is a pro-immigration lobby, and their
00:36:42.420 sole purpose, their sole advocacy is to get Canada to grow its population to 100 million people by 2021.
00:36:50.740 So if you thought that Canada was really overcrowded now, that cities were getting too big,
00:36:55.700 too congested, that the roads and the infrastructure aren't keeping up with the population growth,
00:36:59.940 well basically we would have to have the population, the massive increase in population that we had
00:37:05.700 over the last two years, the one that Trudeau actually had to walk back and say it was a massive
00:37:09.220 mistake. We would have to have that level of growth every single year to reach this target.
00:37:14.340 It's really unbelievable that there is a group that is seen as sort of like a blue chip initiative,
00:37:20.020 you know, they're sponsored by the Globe and Mail and they do these panels and roundtables,
00:37:26.420 advocating for a massive growth through immigration, not through supporting Canadian families and getting
00:37:31.540 Canadian women to have more children, but by just importing the third world basically. So Pierre 1.00
00:37:36.580 Poliev has slammed this appointment on mass immigration. We have a clip of him talking about it. Let's play that now.
00:37:43.300 The Liberals destroyed our immigration system in their first three terms in power. They followed
00:37:50.580 a radical globalist ideology of massive uncontrolled population growth that put strain on our housing
00:38:01.460 market, our health care and our job market. And so I think Pierre Poliev is sort of hitting the nail
00:38:08.180 on the head there. And I want to show this clip that Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party,
00:38:13.060 has posted. He writes on X, Red Alert, Mark Carney has hired Mark Wiseman of the Century Initiative,
00:38:19.220 an organization that wants to grow Canada's population to reach 100 million by the end of
00:38:22.420 the century. And then the clip that I'm about to show has Mark Wiseman talking about how we could
00:38:28.340 facilitate this growth. He literally just says that we should stop screening, that we shouldn't do security
00:38:34.660 screening of immigrants to Canada. We should just basically, anyone who wants to come, 0.79
00:38:40.020 we should let them in. Honestly, this is, this is crazy. This is so extreme. Here is Mark Wiseman in
00:38:46.180 his own words. Let the private sector move to bring people in and make and facilitate them being
00:38:52.260 able to do that. And you know, a lot of the screening and other stuff that we do, frankly,
00:38:58.900 is just bureaucracy. It's a waste of time. Let's let people in by and large. And if we have to do the
00:39:04.820 screening ex post, that's fine. To screen them once we're already in the country, what could possibly
00:39:10.420 go wrong? Ryan, what do you think of this? Well, we, yeah, we're quite familiar with the
00:39:17.540 Century Initiative. We did it. We did our own deep dive last last year on this. And it was so
00:39:24.900 disturbing to us to see this, especially when we started taking a look at what the Century Initiative's
00:39:32.020 main platform was. And then we took a look at Trudeau's 2021 Liberal Party platform. And the hair on our
00:39:39.780 next started standing up because you can line them up and they are point for point for point.
00:39:45.060 So essentially what looks like happened was a bunch of elites, a bunch of rich people got together and
00:39:50.980 said, Hey, let's get rich. And here's a good way that we can do that. We can bring in a whole bunch
00:39:56.180 of people take advantage of all of those tax dollars and all of the homes that are going to have to be
00:40:01.460 built for these people because some of their, their founders are members or CEOs of the largest lumber
00:40:07.300 companies in Canada. Well, we all know that lumber is used in housing and other people have different
00:40:13.300 interests in healthcare or any of the other services that are going to be essentially needed to be used
00:40:19.860 by a hundred million people over the next 70 odd years. So you have all of this coming together.
00:40:28.100 And their main premise is the quality of life is determined by the number of people in the country.
00:40:33.380 Well, we actually completely agree with that because what we've seen is the massive amounts
00:40:39.140 of people that have been influxed into Canada over the last four or five years has had a significant
00:40:46.420 decline on our quality of life. And it's not the type of people. It's not the people themselves.
00:40:51.780 That's the problem. It's the fact that the policies that we've been using in Canada,
00:40:57.060 they haven't bothered to keep up with housing. They haven't bothered to keep up with hospitals and
00:41:00.580 they haven't bothered to keep up with education or any of the other systems in there. So what we end
00:41:05.140 up having is a net poor society. And if you don't care where these people come from or what happens,
00:41:14.100 this results in all of these protests on the streets that go unchecked now by police.
00:41:18.900 And you have anti-Semitism rampant across the country, reminiscent of the 1930s.
00:41:24.580 It is it is just an insane, an insane type of type of approach. You think it was a conspiracy
00:41:32.740 theory if it wasn't out in the open. Well, it's so interesting because you're right. It is like
00:41:36.820 it's like a shortcut, like a cheating, a way to cheat the economy. Right. Because it's like Canada
00:41:42.180 is having a major issue with productivity. So much of the capital, so much of the investments that people
00:41:47.700 have are not being invested into Canadian companies to help them grow. They're doing what Mark Carney did,
00:41:52.580 which is, you know, move their headquarters to New York City, invest in the American stock market,
00:41:57.060 put your money in funds in Bermuda and just investing anywhere other than Canada because
00:42:01.700 the Canadian economy is stagnant. It's not growing. It's like these guys got into Trudeau's ear and they
00:42:07.060 said, hey, here's a hack. A way that you could grow your GDP is just grow the population. More people
00:42:12.660 means more money in the economy. Boom, snap your finger and it's done. You don't even have to worry about the
00:42:18.500 more tricky parts of actually encouraging people to start businesses and reinvest in their businesses
00:42:24.100 because the budget will balance itself. Right. Making a pro business environment. It's like you
00:42:28.020 can just cheat by bringing all these people in. And because it's the liberals, they put absolutely no
00:42:32.660 effort into any of the sort of infrastructure that you're talking about. On a deeper cultural level,
00:42:38.100 they put no effort into thinking about whether the population can properly absorb this new influx of
00:42:45.220 people, people from other countries, people who have other values, people that might not share
00:42:49.300 Canada value, Canadian values. And for the last decade, if anyone even dares to say that there's
00:42:54.500 such thing as Canadian values, they get slammed as being a racist and a bigot and xenophobic. Right.
00:43:01.140 We weren't even allowed to talk about what our shared Canadian values were. And so the outcome of
00:43:06.020 this is you have a whole bunch of people in Canada who may or may not even like Canada. They may have,
00:43:11.540 you know, bought into the liberal narrative that Canada is a racist, genocidal country, that the
00:43:15.860 white people of this country have committed atrocities against the environment and against 0.99
00:43:21.060 the local people who are here. And so they have like no love and no affinity for Canada. And you see
00:43:26.420 a fractured, fraying culture. You know, you mentioned anti-Semitism on the rise. Yes, that's true.
00:43:32.340 That's like one of a dozen cultural clashes that are happening in Canada. I mean, look at what's happened
00:43:37.060 with Chanda Arya being disqualified from the Liberal Party. And he said it was over his advocacy for
00:43:43.460 Hindu values and against extremism within the Calistani Sikh movement. So you have these clashes
00:43:50.260 that also exist and happen in places like Brampton and in places like Surrey, where Hindus and Sikhs
00:43:55.780 are openly fighting each other on the streets. You have the same kind of thing in the Chinese diaspora
00:44:00.580 community where there's so called police stations, Chinese monitored police stations, where they are
00:44:06.740 tracking down dissenting voices against the communist Chinese regime, people who might advocate for free
00:44:12.580 and independent Hong Kong or Taiwan. And they're being intimidated and who knows what else by these
00:44:18.180 Chinese state sponsored gangsters. All of this is happening in Canada. To me, it shows a broken society, 0.99
00:44:24.740 frankly. And I think that we need a real solution. Like I think this is an opportunity for Pierre
00:44:30.180 Polyev to say no, like we're not going to put up with this. We don't like the direction that the
00:44:35.300 Liberals have taken our country with immigration, they have broken the system. And they've broken
00:44:39.220 Canadians trust in immigration. I think that a bigger and bigger percentage of Canadians have just had
00:44:45.060 enough of mass migration. We want our country back, we want secure borders, we don't want illegal immigration. 0.99
00:44:50.500 And we want to be able to celebrate the things that make us Canadian, not in this sort of artificial
00:44:55.860 elbows up, Team Canada, just merely defined as being anti-American, but actually something deeper,
00:45:02.100 like the deeper bonds that hold us together as Canadians, our values. And I think that Pierre has
00:45:08.740 an opportunity. I don't know that he's really stepping up to it, but I have heard him at least
00:45:13.140 talking about the issue of immigration and how we need to change from what Trudeau is doing. Tanya,
00:45:18.900 I'll bring you in on this one. Yeah, I don't think Pierre can go too hard on it because then he'll get
00:45:23.860 criticized by the Liberals. And if you believe the polls, the Conservatives are currently down
00:45:28.500 slightly in the polls, so he doesn't want to go down any further. I think that we do need someone
00:45:35.460 to come in and unify the country. We had a interview with Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond earlier this
00:45:41.700 year, and that was one of the major things that he was talking about in terms of how we're going to get
00:45:46.980 Canada back. We need unity across this country. It's not enough just to have a bunch of people
00:45:50.900 from all over the world living in the same geographic space. We all need to be working
00:45:55.060 towards a common goal. We all need to have common values and beliefs. You don't have to believe the
00:46:02.260 exact same thing. You know, we celebrate Christmas, our neighbors down the street might celebrate
00:46:07.220 Hanukkah, but the fact is that we're all working towards a common goal of Canada, a common prosperity,
00:46:15.620 and that we want to get along and live peacefully together.
00:46:18.660 Well, and the one thing that Pierre has said about immigration is he said he wants to revert
00:46:24.500 our immigration system back to the way it was, which both Liberal and Conservative governments
00:46:29.380 agreed upon, and they didn't change it for decades because it was a merit-based system.
00:46:34.260 And we approached people coming into Canada as it was a privilege and not a right. You had to actually 0.99
00:46:43.780 be able to show that you're going to contribute something positively to Canada. You're going to
00:46:48.180 fit within the culture and you're going to, you know, help build a better Canada.
00:46:54.340 So he has said that, you know, the Liberals have completely broken the immigration system and that
00:46:58.900 we need to move back to that. You know, a lot of people have talked about the fact that, well,
00:47:03.380 you know, Pierre hasn't said that he's going to go with mass deportations. Well, you can't just
00:47:08.020 start deporting people that, unfortunately, the new system let in properly. You can deport people that
00:47:14.660 have have come in illegally. And I think that's what everyone is for. But that's the other thing
00:47:21.220 that Mark Kearney has kind of waffled on on his campaign side because, you know, he is for the
00:47:26.580 Century Initiative. He is for more taxpayers. And he doesn't care at all how bad things get in Canada
00:47:34.180 because, by all accounts, most of his investments aren't even in Canada anymore. So if the Canadian
00:47:38.820 economy tanks, his investments are insulated. I mean, how shocking is that, that we still don't
00:47:43.620 even know where his money is invested? You know, he says that he has a blind trust and that someone else
00:47:47.700 is handling it. We don't know who. It's kind of alarming that the prime minister, you know, we
00:47:52.820 know that he takes advantage of tax havens. We know that he used the Bermuda, as well as like a
00:47:57.700 dozen other countries to manage his funds and to make sure that they didn't have to pay Canadian
00:48:01.940 taxes until the very end. And yet, you know, this is a person that is, well, he is the prime minister.
00:48:07.780 I mean, sure, he technically should be a caretaker prime minister. He's not really acting like that.
00:48:11.540 He's acting like he's already elected. And if you do trust the polls, it looks like Canadians could head
00:48:16.660 that way. I'm hoping not. I'm so optimistic that Pierre is running such a good campaign so far
00:48:21.220 that the momentum is on his side. The polls show one thing, but my own eyes watching the rallies,
00:48:27.380 watching him, watching the excitement around him is really showing something else. So I'm hopeful
00:48:33.780 that that's the way that the election will go. Tanya, Brian, great to have you on. Thank you so much
00:48:39.220 for joining the show today. It's been such a fun conversation. Thanks for having us.
00:48:43.380 All right. Check out the Northern Perspective. They do wonderful analysis over there. All right,
00:48:47.620 folks, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace
00:48:50.740 Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Have a wonderful weekend, everyone. We'll be back
00:48:53.860 again on Monday. Thank you and God bless.