Juno News - Mark Carney’s DISASTROUS trip to Edmonton

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you.

00:00:07.740 Lots of news to get to today. And I want to start by just reiterating the news that we learned

00:00:12.460 yesterday. All signs are pointing towards an election being called this weekend. Mark Carney

00:00:17.300 is expected to pull the plug on the government and force Canadians to an election on his own

00:00:23.900 without needing Jagmeet Singh involved at all. So he's essentially just blocking the NDP out of

00:00:29.880 the picture. And it looks like we're going to head to an election. Look, folks, this is the most

00:00:34.880 important election of my lifetime. I've said it before. I will say it again. I believe that Canada

00:00:38.980 is at a fork in the road and we have a stark choice in front of us. And today I'm going to talk to you

00:00:43.820 about why I think Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives are going to win. I think Mark Carney is a terrible

00:00:49.520 candidate. And the more we get to know him, the more that we see that. And so to join me on the

00:00:54.000 episode today, I'm very pleased to be joined by Marty Belanger, known online as Marty Up North. He's a

00:00:58.940 professional engineer by training with over 40 years of experience. Marty, thank you so much for

00:01:03.680 joining us.

00:01:05.040 Candice, good to be here. Happy spring.

00:01:08.020 Okay, thank you. Yes. And Marty, you're a francophone Albertan, which I didn't know that

00:01:13.200 there were very many of those until I went to the University of Alberta. And I was involved in

00:01:18.000 orientation up there. And sometimes I would give tours to students that barely spoke English. And I

00:01:22.840 didn't realize that there was a large community of French-speaking Albertans.

00:01:26.340 Frankophones, my ancestors populated northern Canada, right? Northern Manitoba, northern

00:01:32.080 Winnipeg, or northern Saskatchewan, Alberta. It's all the same. We were brought out here for

00:01:37.100 lumber and mining and things like that. So yeah, there's some pretty good Franco communities here

00:01:42.700 in Alberta.

00:01:43.880 Super interesting. I don't know that many Canadians know that, but there is a strong population. So

00:01:48.760 I want to let's first talk about Mark Carney visiting Edmonton. And I think that the liberals

00:01:55.040 tried a little bit too hard with the optics here. So we have Mark Carney playing with the

00:02:00.920 Edmonton Oilers, skating with the Oilers. And this is one thing that people online were quick

00:02:06.120 to point out that here is Mark Carney missing a shot on an empty net.

00:02:14.820 And what a great politics metaphor, right? You had Rupa Supramania posting this on X saying net

00:02:22.800 zero. So I guess that's the perfect way to sum up.

00:02:27.960 And the other thing about him is he's shooting off his wrong foot when he's taking his shot. So

00:02:33.660 he's shooting the way they teach Russians how to shoot hockey. I coach hockey. And so everything 0.94

00:02:38.560 about that clip is just brutal. I want to say another thing too. We can't track him. Like if

00:02:44.640 you go to the track him in a good sense, if you go to the Prime Minister of Canada's itinerary page,

00:02:50.600 it's gone. They scrubbed it. So we didn't find out that he was coming to Edmonton until like,

00:02:56.200 we have to use other tricks. I found out by go, you know, I look at the government jet every day to

00:03:01.600 see where it's flying. And I saw that the government jet was flying to Edmonton on on Tuesday night. So

00:03:08.380 they're keeping the media away from him.

00:03:12.020 Well, isn't that interesting? Because originally, it was just the independent media that they were

00:03:15.840 keeping away from him. I think that you tried to go to his event in Calgary, and they wouldn't let you

00:03:19.740 win. No, I got in. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you did get in. Okay. So tell us about that.

00:03:25.920 Similar circumstances. They didn't tell us. I'm a member of the Liberal Party. So they sent that

00:03:32.600 email that he was coming to Calgary like the night before. And they wouldn't tell us where

00:03:37.760 until like hours before the event. And I got to go as a member of the Liberal Party. And even as a

00:03:44.140 member of the Liberal Party, as soon as they saw me, they tried everything. I had to do some

00:03:48.280 shenanigans to get in. But I got in. They didn't want that. They didn't want anybody. They don't

00:03:53.060 want him talking to the media, any media. And they don't and they want to control the video,

00:03:57.340 the footage of him talking. Interesting. I didn't know that you were a Liberal Party

00:04:01.680 member, Marty. Why don't you tell us about that? I joined to vote in the leadership race. I mean,

00:04:07.000 you know, and they tried to scare us by making a sign off that we believed in Liberal policies. I'm like,

00:04:12.280 I'm not gonna, I'm gonna participate in democracy. I'm not gonna sit by idly. So I joined the Liberal

00:04:17.820 Party. Fairly legitimately, actually, I'm not a member of any other party right now, because it's

00:04:23.440 the start of a new year. So yeah, I'm a member of the Liberal Party, which is why I also know there's

00:04:29.660 going to be an election pretty darn soon, because I got the email two days ago, saying, you know,

00:04:34.740 register for our campaigning college. And then and then I got a subsequent email and the next day

00:04:41.940 saying, Oh, the election is going to get called like any day now. So you know, we need you as a

00:04:47.020 by the way, they want us to pay to go to the campaigning college $35 for us to go campaign for

00:04:53.580 them. Like, crazy. Interesting. Interesting that they allow free memberships, but then they want to

00:04:58.160 charge you if you want to volunteer, which is kind of interesting. Well, I mean, we're already getting

00:05:03.700 off topic. But you saw what happened yesterday as well. They they disqualified the I can't forget,

00:05:09.160 I keep forgetting the name. Sandra Ari, is that how you say his name? Yeah, yeah, he can't run. He

00:05:14.640 he was an MP. And now they disqualified him as an from running in the next campaign. Crazy.

00:05:20.920 Well, they clearly want total control. They want control of the message. They want control of who's

00:05:25.760 running who's part of the parliament is it's so interesting, because he's trying Mark Carney is

00:05:30.460 trying to run as change and different than Justin Trudeau. But then of course, his cabinet that he

00:05:34.980 brought in is almost identical. So how can you be running to as a change candidate when you literally

00:05:40.260 have the same people in more or less the same positions? We're talking about Stephen Gelbeau,

00:05:45.140 Chrystia Freeland, like all of the usual faces from the Trudeau government. They're they're all it's the

00:05:49.260 same people. Yeah, he participated in the St. Patrick's Day parade in Montreal hand hand in hand with

00:05:55.240 Stephen Gelbeau walking down the street. Yeah, absolutely. Unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable. Okay,

00:05:59.280 well, I want to go back to Mark Carney in Edmonton, because here is a he was playing with the Edmonton

00:06:04.340 Oilers. And this is the sort of like perfectly scripted, edited sort of performance that they

00:06:10.360 want to show Canadians. Let's play that clip.

00:06:12.280 This is my moment in the show.

00:06:18.380 Oh, fantastic. Living the dream. Best board in the world, best team in the world, best country in the

00:06:44.820 world. So I think he's really I mean, I think I think that most Canadians can probably relate to

00:06:49.320 that. That's like a dream for so many people, especially if anyone from Alberta or Northern

00:06:52.860 Alberta to skate with the Oilers to go out and wear the oiler uniform, you know, from a PR

00:06:57.060 perspective, really, really good. Of course, it's just completely fake and phony, right? And I want to

00:07:02.180 segue this to another clip that was taken up in Edmonton. And we have our friend the club reporter

00:07:07.860 pointing this one out. He writes, Mark Carney is so awkward and out of place around blue collar workers and blue

00:07:13.460 color people. These working class Canadians did not even want to shake his hand. And then he has a video. 0.99

00:07:19.860 So Marty, I'm going to play the video for us. Unbelievable how uncomfortable Mark Carney is around regular

00:07:26.900 Canadians, working class people. So, you know, he's up in Edmonton. We're supposed to believe that he has

00:07:30.900 support up there. You know, you saw the crowd cheering for him when he went out with the Oilers.

00:07:34.900 And yet, like, this is how he actually is with people like the people in Edmonton. Let's play the clip.

00:07:39.860 So he can't even really make small talk. And, you know, if the clip goes on, you can see that

00:07:56.980 how uncomfortable the workers are. Like, they don't want to be there. They're kind of embarrassed that

00:08:00.340 they have to stand here for press conference with the liberals. But I just want to show like one clip,

00:08:05.460 someone on X pointed this out. When he walks up, he gives his awkward wave where he shows the back

00:08:10.420 of his hand to the workers. It almost looks like he's, you know, calling the valet saying,

00:08:14.580 bring me my car, young man. And it just I don't understand it. I don't I don't understand how

00:08:20.180 someone could possibly be that out of touch and that uncomfortable when talking to Canadians.

00:08:26.340 He's not a politician. I mean, he hasn't practiced kissing babies and taking part in parades. So,

00:08:31.300 he's, you know, that part is obvious. He's not a politician. He's not polished that way.

00:08:36.100 In that clip, a really bad choice for him. I mean, he's got Amarjeet Sohi, the, you know,

00:08:42.820 the the mayor of Edmonton, who's absolutely despised, who all who just recently announced,

00:08:48.260 well, the rumor is Soji, Soji or Sohi, Sohi, he's running for for he's rerunning. So yeah,

00:08:55.780 no, it's an awkward clip. I mean, they're, you know, and to be fair, the the workers,

00:09:01.300 workers didn't even like it when I came out there and made them do photo ops,

00:09:04.580 because I worked in the oil patch, and I was a manager, you know, we got to do a photo op,

00:09:08.180 they hate the photo ops. But at least if it's a popular politician, there's, you know,

00:09:12.900 a good politician can work the crowd. I mean, I'm pretty sure if it was Pierre there,

00:09:16.100 he'd work the crowd somehow. And you're right, Carney looks completely uncomfortable around.

00:09:21.860 Well, even hello, like, I watched him walk up, and he just kind of didn't say anything. And he was

00:09:27.380 almost expecting them to say something to him. And I don't understand that wave with the back of

00:09:32.100 his head. And then just to loop it back to the Oilers. Well, I don't think that the headline

00:09:37.460 coming out of that event was quite what the Carney campaign would have wanted. Because the Barstool 0.70

00:09:43.060 Sports podcaster, former NHL hockey player and former Edmonton oiler, Ryan Whitney, called it the

00:09:49.140 Carney curse. So here's what he posted on X. He said, the Carney curse is real for Edmonton. What the

00:09:55.780 hell just happened? This guy's on the ice with the Oilers in the morning. And now everyone is

00:10:00.180 injured. So I guess later in the day when the Oilers played the Winnipeg Jets, both stars Connor

00:10:05.540 McDavid and Stuart Skinner both got hurt in the game. And so they're calling it the Carney curse out

00:10:11.940 in Edmonton. What do you think? I don't know any other sports that have more superstitions than

00:10:17.300 hockey players, right? I mean, it's my life, but the hockey players are very, very, very superstitious.

00:10:22.500 So maybe, yeah, maybe it is a foreshadowing something to come. I hope it is. I hope it is.

00:10:26.820 I mean, it's unfortunate for the Oilers, but I hope it's, you know, Carney's not popular.

00:10:31.140 I think the more that Canadians get to know this man, the more they'll realize that he's just

00:10:35.140 not what he appears, right? I think the Canadians that are interested in the liberals right now say,

00:10:39.460 okay, he's been through crises. He seems to be a steady hand. And I think that the more that we get to

00:10:44.420 know him, the more it will become evident, Marty, that he doesn't have this stellar resume like he

00:10:50.900 proposes. And I want to use this opportunity to show another clip where, again, he's in Edmonton.

00:10:56.180 The reporters are different than the reporters in Ottawa, right? People in Alberta, even if you work

00:11:01.380 for the legacy media, you still have a sense for what's right and what's wrong. And I think that

00:11:06.260 they're tougher on these federal politicians, particularly a liberal. There's no love. There's

00:11:10.820 no love for liberals in Alberta. And so I'm going to play this clip. The reporter's question is tough,

00:11:16.580 but fair. And he's pressing Carney on basically the issue of the economy in Canada, what the liberals

00:11:25.780 have done. And you can just see, I'll play it in different, it's a longer clip, so I'll play it in

00:11:30.180 stages. But let's go to the beginning, just pay attention to the reporter's question, Carney's face,

00:11:35.220 and then Carney's reaction, because I think it is really telling. Let's play that clip.

00:11:39.060 You have not been elected in a federal election yet. And you recently flew to Europe on government wide

00:11:45.940 body jet at the expense of at least half a million dollars. So the question I have for you today,

00:11:51.780 and maybe I'll say this before I ask the question, these people around you all paid for that flight,

00:11:56.900 and you've not been elected yet. So will you commit to refunding these taxpayers for that flight?

00:12:03.940 Good question. Well, it's an interesting question, way of framing it. Look.

00:12:07.460 So right off there, you could tell that he doesn't like the question. He doesn't want it. He says,

00:12:10.980 interesting question, interesting way of framing it, right? Why wouldn't he frame it that way? It's like,

00:12:14.660 you didn't get elected. And the first thing you did was jet set to Europe. We don't really know

00:12:19.220 why. I think he was trying to set up some alternative trade deals, and he completely fell

00:12:22.980 flat. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer refused to even do a joint press conference with him. And then

00:12:28.740 the European press, or the English press, were quite hard on him. The Canadian press in London

00:12:33.140 were quite hard on him, which was totally empty handed. And so now, you know, the question is like,

00:12:37.620 why did you go? We spent half a million bucks. Why didn't you just call an election last weekend, right?

00:12:42.500 I actually don't even know why he came to Alberta. I mean, like, if he's gonna,

00:12:47.300 we can get on into that. Sorry, but I don't even know why he came to Alberta.

00:12:50.900 Yeah. Well, fair enough. I think that, again, he was trying to cement his

00:12:55.300 supposed working class credentials and roots, maybe growing up, partially in Edmonton. But,

00:13:01.460 you know, you could just tell that he doesn't like, he doesn't like media scrutiny. He doesn't like,

00:13:05.140 paying attention to your earlier point, he doesn't want any kind of real question. And I think, I don't know

00:13:10.260 who exactly the reporter was asking that question. I assume it was someone from maybe Edmonton Journal

00:13:15.940 or CBS. The Western Standard, actually. Oh, it was the Western Standard. The Western Standard,

00:13:19.220 yeah. Oh, well, good for them for getting to him. So, okay, an independent journalist asking

00:13:23.540 Mark Carney a question. He doesn't like it. Let's play the rest of the clip so you can see where he

00:13:26.900 takes us with this one. I'm gonna go back to, I'm gonna allude to the question that was asked

00:13:32.260 previously by Mr. Staples from the Journal and the situation that we're in as a country,

00:13:39.700 which is, we are in an economic crisis that's brought on. Sorry, I'm gonna answer the question.

00:13:45.060 We're brought on by the tariffs that have been put on Canada, actual and perspective.

00:13:52.180 One of the challenges- The economic crisis was brought on

00:13:55.620 by former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and you were his advisor.

00:13:59.540 I think you would find- These people did not create that problem.

00:14:04.180 I certainly, hey, nobody in Canada created that problem. Nobody in Canada created that problem.

00:14:12.180 What? The US government has decided to put tariffs on all of its-

00:14:17.700 What? Like, okay, you can put the clip away, Sean. Like, this idea that Canada's facing an economic

00:14:23.700 crisis. Yes, we are facing economic crisis, cost-living crisis, from the carbon tax,

00:14:26.980 from runaway inflation, from the endless printing of money that happened during COVID.

00:14:30.820 That is the crisis we face. Add in that open border immigration. Whereas Mark Carty is saying,

00:14:37.380 no, the crisis is entirely because of Donald Trump. Nobody in Canada is to blame. It is entirely

00:14:43.300 external on the Americans. Like, what kind of leadership is that, Marty? Like, blaming everybody

00:14:47.060 else, blaming another country, saying it has nothing to do with-

00:14:49.620 First of all, they- Like, he's answering questions, which is rule number- You know this,

00:14:54.020 right? Politicians don't answer your question. You ask the question, and then it's an opportunity

00:14:57.780 for them to give their canned answer, regardless of the question. He's engaging, and he's getting

00:15:03.300 massacred. So they're going to put an end to this. They're not going to let him do it, but he will

00:15:07.140 continue to do it because that's who he is. He likes to argue, but he contradicts himself. I mean,

00:15:13.380 you know, last week in England, same thing. Somebody said, like, he talked about how England is a

00:15:19.220 great nation, and we should do more business. Somebody said, well, why'd you move your company,

00:15:23.700 you know, Brookfield Asset to New York? Why didn't you list in London? He didn't have an answer for

00:15:27.940 that. Yesterday, same thing. You know, we didn't create the crisis. He went on for, what, five weeks

00:15:35.700 campaigning, saying Trump was an existential crisis to Canada. And then, but then he took off and went

00:15:42.100 to England. So, yeah, he's going to get, which is good. I keep saying this. Let him talk. Let him

00:15:49.220 talk. I mean, let, you know, the David he was referring there to is David Staples. Well,

00:15:54.500 he said, Mr. Staples. David Staples is the Edmonton Journal. Yeah, we're not, they're not buying his

00:16:00.740 crap, but he's easy to bait and he's talking. So that's fantastic. Well, he just doesn't clearly have

00:16:07.140 the media training. And he kind of has this air about him that he is holier than thou,

00:16:11.460 better than everyone, doesn't have to explain. And he, he, it's interesting because Pierre

00:16:16.500 Polyev has this interesting thing where he will reject the premise of a question and say,

00:16:20.420 this is nonsense. Here's why. And he's quite good at it. Right. And when he first started doing it,

00:16:25.060 the legacy media lost their minds and they would all write about how Pierre Polyev is a bully.

00:16:29.540 Pierre Polyev doesn't treat the media with respect. He's punching down. He is a national leader and he's

00:16:34.500 being cruel and mean to these, these lowly reporters over here. Right. So, so this week it completely

00:16:40.180 changed after that, uh, after the Rosie Barton interview last week and after this one yesterday,

00:16:46.420 now the mainstream media is accusing the, no, not the mainstream media.

00:16:51.140 Yeah. Mainstream media and some, some diet, some big accounts are accusing the independent

00:16:57.380 media of being disrespectful to the prime minister. That was the message that they tried to do yesterday.

00:17:03.140 The, the David Staples and the Western standard and, and it go and went on also because, um,

00:17:09.220 I don't know if we wanted to cover this, but he did meet with Danielle Smith yesterday. Right. He met

00:17:13.620 with Danielle, which I think is, I don't think he came here with very genuine intentions. He came here

00:17:19.860 to make Danielle look bad because one of the liberal strategies is always been, um, Hey, Eastern Canada, 1.00

00:17:27.460 you need to vote for us because we're the only ones who can, who can protect Eastern Canada, not only from

00:17:33.620 Trump, but from the bad Westerners. So he's going to try and I I'm, I'm predicting that in the coming 1.00

00:17:39.780 days, they're going to try and make Alberta and Smith look bad as not being on team Canada. They're

00:17:45.140 going to fully exploit that. I, I have a feeling that you're right in what we're seeing in this election,

00:17:50.580 Marty is, is really an East West divide and a young old divide, right? When we're looking at who's

00:17:55.540 supporting the conservatives, it is young Canadians, predominantly from Western Canada, people under

00:18:00.980 the age of 45, like Gen Xers, millennials, right? And Gen Z to a lesser extent, especially males.

00:18:08.340 Uh, whereas when you are looking at who's supporting the liberals at this point, it's older,

00:18:12.660 older people, particularly women, baby boomers in Ontario and Eastern Canada, which it really,

00:18:19.380 really interesting. Uh, you know, when, when you're talking about a fork in the road and the direction

00:18:23.460 that the country is going to face, I want to point to Viva Frye and what he posted on X about all

00:18:28.340 this. Cause I haven't really agreed with this. He writes, now you understand talking about Mark

00:18:32.340 Carney's is now you understand why they had to exacerbate the tariff crisis to pretend that the

00:18:37.540 last 10 years of economic, social and political devastation created by the liberals enabled by the

00:18:42.740 NDP and tolerated by the conservatives was because of the tariffs that Trump imposed last month.

00:18:49.460 Like try to make sense of all of that, right? We have, Canada has been suffering. This is why

00:18:54.820 Justin Trudeau was so unpopular. Why Pierre Polyev was so ahead in the polls throughout all of 2024 and

00:19:00.980 sort of peaking in the very end of the time there, not because of Donald Trump. Donald Trump just

00:19:06.100 reemerged into the picture fairly recently in the last six months or so, but it was Trudeau. It was the

00:19:11.300 liberals and they would just do absolutely anything they can to try to distance themselves from their own

00:19:16.020 record and to do the thing that the liberals have done. And I hate to say this, but they've done it

00:19:20.500 so well in Canada, which is hit us against each other, divide Canadians, stir up resentful resentfulness,

00:19:27.140 try to find it an enemy within. Right. And at this point, it's like anybody who is pro-American 0.87

00:19:32.260 and pro-Trump. This is one thing I am worried about, Marty, in this election, because both Pierre

00:19:36.900 Polyev and at this point, Mark Carney are saying that they more or less agree that Donald Trump is a risk

00:19:42.020 and a threat and that the only way to get out of this is to be tough against Trump and to impose

00:19:46.900 our own 25% reciprocal tariffs, which just means a 25% tax on Canadians buying American goods.

00:19:53.060 This is what I worry about, that the liberal campaign strategy will basically just be to try

00:19:56.820 to tie the conservative party and Pierre Polyev with Donald Trump. And I have plenty of examples.

00:20:02.260 I know that there's a picture circulating around online of campaign manager Jenny Byrne wearing a

00:20:06.980 Make America Great Again hat. I'm sure that they have a portfolio full of pictures of

00:20:11.140 various conservatives, either supporting Trump or wearing the hat or doing something. And the whole

00:20:15.700 campaign from their perspective through mainstream media is just going to be to try to embarrass

00:20:20.340 Pierre Polyev and to try to tie them to Republicans in Americans.

00:20:25.460 Yeah, the next, you know, we all think, I think we all know now an election is going to get called on

00:20:30.660 Sunday or Monday very soon. And then we're going to have a four week campaign. The next four weeks is

00:20:36.420 about trying to convince Canadians. Do you think that here's what I think? I mean, you know, I'm on

00:20:43.060 this camp. I think Donald Trump is a wake up call for us. It's a wake up call that shows that the

00:20:47.700 policies of the last 10 years have failed us because if another country put a tariff on us,

00:20:52.820 we shouldn't normally be worried about that. We should just say, okay, let's dig down a little bit.

00:20:56.660 Let's get more competitive and let's fight. You know, let's fight it that way.

00:21:00.180 So Trump is a wake up call. The liberal. So now the liberals are going to try and convince the

00:21:05.460 nation that Trump is a threat and hide from the fact that Trump's a threat made possible because

00:21:11.860 of their failed policies. And that's what you saw in Alberta yesterday. I mean, Albertans are going

00:21:16.100 like, no, no, no, no, no. Trump is not a failure or is not a threat. You guys are. And so it's going

00:21:22.020 to be interesting to see. Well, I've already seen it. I mean, Eastern Canadians right now, like you said, 1.00

00:21:28.260 I call them the boomers. They're convincing themselves that Trump is a threat and they're 0.99

00:21:32.740 trying to ignore everything that the liberals did to them. They're able to ignore it a little

00:21:37.140 bit longer because let's face it, you know, the boomers in Toronto got great real estate out of

00:21:42.420 their housing and all sorts of perks. But the Western Canadians, they can't ignore the liberal

00:21:48.660 threat. And you're right. It's probably the most important election in our lifetime.

00:21:53.780 I think it is. And I think it's interesting, even that you mentioned, you know, boomers that have

00:21:58.740 value, you know, that are wealthy, basically, that the ridings that basically boosted Mark Carney and

00:22:05.780 decided that he was going to be leaders, the ones that had the biggest margin, were all like the

00:22:10.180 wealthiest areas in the entire country. We're talking about Rosedale in Toronto, Rockcliffe in Ottawa,

00:22:17.540 West Vancouver, and like, you know, kind of like the richest places in the country. Those are the people

00:22:22.660 who are for Mark Carney. Really interesting. I want to just tie it back to Alberta and energy because

00:22:29.060 while Mark Carney was in Alberta, like you said, meeting with Danielle Smith, we'll show a clip of

00:22:33.300 that in a moment. Mark Carney's environment minister, Terry Duguid, said that the liberals will

00:22:41.300 maintain their oil and gas emissions cap, right? So here we have Mark Carney trying to run away from the

00:22:47.140 carbon tax, trying to say that Canada is open for business, trying to tell us that the economic

00:22:53.540 threat comes from Trump, and maybe that somehow he's going to be more pro-economy and...

00:22:58.900 Yeah, he's going to destroy the... He's going to... He's still... They're all anti-oil.

00:23:04.100 Let's... Like Carney himself is anti-oil, anti-pipeline. Yesterday, he said... He went as far as saying,

00:23:10.340 you know, we'll open the corridors to Hudson's Bay, blah, blah, blah. I mean, yes, you're right. He

00:23:16.820 came to Alberta, anti-oil, but then he went to play for the Oilers. Like, yesterday was so much show,

00:23:24.260 and I don't know what the sentiment was in Eastern Canada, but here in Alberta, nobody believed what

00:23:29.620 they saw yesterday. Like... Well, I think it just really upended the whole thing because the idea

00:23:34.340 was, I think, you know, you said that he was out there to maybe try to embarrass Danielle Smith or to

00:23:38.420 distance her or vilify her, distance himself from her. I think he was out there trying to

00:23:43.220 produce an olive branch to say, together, we're going to build this amazing new economy,

00:23:47.540 and I'm going to be the one at the helm. And then his own environment minister just clearly

00:23:54.500 appended that by releasing this bombshell. I don't know if it was coordinated. Probably not.

00:23:58.580 And so, you know, they had to wear that around. It gave Pierre Polyev the opportunity to further

00:24:04.420 criticize the Liberals for blocking vital resource projects like the Energy East. So here is a clip

00:24:09.700 of Pierre Polyev talking about that yesterday. In the first five years of the Liberal government,

00:24:14.260 they blocked $176 billion of resource and energy projects. They were cancelled mostly due to

00:24:22.020 government obstacles. These projects would have made us more self-reliant and independent from the

00:24:27.460 Americans. For example, the Liberal government in Ottawa opposed the LNG Canada project in Saguenay,

00:24:35.540 which would have brought Canadian natural gas to the Europeans. And then speaking further,

00:24:43.780 we had Danielle Smith talking yesterday about how Alberta will do whatever it takes to shield their 0.99

00:24:49.940 economy from the Liberals' growth-killing lunacy. Let's play that clip. Alberta will continue in its

00:24:56.420 pursuit of doubling our oil and gas production to meet the growing global demand for energy.

00:25:00.740 And we will not let Ottawa stand in our way. We will not tolerate the continuous unconstitutional

00:25:06.020 overreaches made by the federal Liberal government. Measures like the emissions cap, the net zero

00:25:11.060 electricity regs, the net zero electric vehicle mandate, and the energy industry advertising ban must

00:25:16.500 be stopped now. And make no mistake, Alberta will do whatever it takes to shield our economy from the 0.81

00:25:22.260 Liberals' growth-killing lunacy. So not exactly the kind of clip that Mark Carney would have wanted

00:25:29.460 leaving Alberta. What do you think, Marty? No, absolutely not. And then she tweeted about that

00:25:34.820 afterwards with her list of quote-unquote demands from Carney. And some of them are quite easy,

00:25:40.660 actually. And he could address them as easily as he claims to have addressed the carbon tax, you know,

00:25:44.740 like, kill Bill C69, lift the tanker ban off the West Coast. So he needs to commit to doing those

00:25:53.540 things to convince Albertans. And like I said earlier, that tweet of Danielle's yesterday,

00:25:59.540 that was vilified as well. I mean, all of a sudden, everybody piled up on Danielle as being

00:26:04.660 not part of Team Canada. So I'm going to push back. I don't think Carney came here for an olive branch.

00:26:12.740 I think he came here to vilify Danielle. That's an old... Trudeau used it to his advantage as well.

00:26:20.820 Trudeau was happy when Kenny was in power because it gave him a, what do you call it, an emesis.

00:26:30.740 Yeah, an opportunity to be a punching bag. Well, I have the tweet that you're talking about. Danielle

00:26:34.100 Smith wrote this morning. She said that she met with, at his request, I met with Prime Minister

00:26:39.940 Mark Carney today. We had a very frank discussion, in which I made it clear that Albertans will no

00:26:43.780 longer tolerate the way you've been, the way we've been treated for the last 10 years by

00:26:47.700 the Federal Liberals. She provided a specific list of demands. So I'll just read those quickly.

00:26:51.940 Guaranteeing Alberta full access to oil and gas corridors to the North, East and West,

00:26:56.180 repealing Bill C69, aka the No Pipelines Act, lifting the tanker ban off the BC Coast, eliminating the

00:27:02.020 oil and gas emissions cap, which we heard that they're not going to do, scrapping the so-called clean

00:27:07.300 electricity regulations, ending the prohibition of single-use plastics, abandoning the net zero

00:27:12.740 car mandate, returning oversight to the industrial carbon taxes to the provinces, and halting

00:27:18.580 the federal censorship of energy companies. So I don't think that we should have high hopes that

00:27:23.940 Mark Carney will go along with anything on the list, but any leader that is trying to do good by Alberta

00:27:28.580 and trying to actually increase our economy and build a future for young Canadians would be wise,

00:27:34.420 I think, to adhere to this list of demands. What do you think, Marty?

00:27:37.220 Mark Carney

00:27:37.740 Yes and no. I mean, you know, my fear is always the same fear is that I'm, you know,

00:27:47.220 all a prime ministerial candidate needs to do in this country is get a couple of votes from Alberta

00:27:53.380 and Saskatchewan. That's just gravy on top, because they can get elected by winning Ontario and Quebec. So,

00:27:59.540 you know, is that why Carney came here just to get a couple of votes? If he did, that backfired on him,

00:28:06.340 but I don't think he's going to sweat this one because he doesn't need Alberta. So, in fact,

00:28:11.220 I don't think he needed that. He doesn't need Alberta's votes. Having Alberta and Premier Smith,

00:28:16.580 I'm repeating it, as a nemesis is more strategic to him than having her as an ally. Well, actually,

00:28:22.420 he could have her as an ally. But that actually, that'd be really scary. If he threw a real carrot

00:28:28.420 our way, that would be that would be smart. But I don't see that happening.

00:28:33.140 Well, it seems like perhaps you're right that the strategy is to win the election without any

00:28:39.620 support from Western Canada. And you can see that starting to happen in the polls. So Juno News is

00:28:44.660 doing our own polls throughout the election. We don't trust the polling companies, particularly the

00:28:48.820 ones that work with the Liberal media and the Liberal Party. And I don't know that they're being

00:28:52.740 completely genuine in what they're saying. Like some of the polls are showing a huge Liberal

00:28:57.540 majority at this point. I don't buy that. I don't think it's true. Our own polling that we did last

00:29:01.860 weekend, albeit it's, you know, it was a week ago now, but it showed the Conservatives with a lead,

00:29:07.060 a very slim lead. And depending on the seat distribution, it might still mean that the

00:29:11.460 Liberals will win the most seats. But I want to go through some of the crosstabs with you,

00:29:15.540 Marty. And the first one is regions. So here is a graph that shows what our polling results found.

00:29:24.100 You can find all this information, by the way, at JunoNews.com. And you can click on the polling

00:29:29.220 tab there. And so this was from March 17th in the polls. You can see the regions right there. So I'll

00:29:34.900 just go through it. Canada, federally, 37% Conservatives, 35% Liberals. But then just look at the

00:29:41.700 regions, right? In Atlantic Canada, you have the Liberals at almost 50%, 47%. In Ontario, the Liberals

00:29:49.300 are at 42, Conservatives 36. And then the Prairies, it's flipped 52% Conservatives on the Prairies. And

00:29:55.460 even in BC, they're up with 38% over 33. And then Quebec is an interesting one, because we see the

00:30:01.620 resurgence of the bloc. The Liberals are kind of holding, but not really. And Conservatives are doing

00:30:08.020 quite respectable with 23% for Quebec. And so what you really do see is the regions being completely

00:30:14.980 split, like Ontario and being liberal. Yeah. Well, you pointed that out earlier. I mean,

00:30:24.180 the country's kind of divided right now. I mean, we got an east-west divide, and then we got an age divide.

00:30:29.060 When I look at your poll, what I think is really interesting, and I think it explains a lot,

00:30:34.980 the Liberals, it's not that the Conservatives came down a lot in the last little while. Yeah,

00:30:38.820 the Liberals gained, but the Liberals gained at the expense of the NDP and the bloc. The bloc was

00:30:44.420 trending really strong in Quebec. And suddenly, they, you know, those voters shifted back to the

00:30:49.780 Liberals. And I mean, the NDP is done, right? Like, Jagmeet is not even in the news anymore. So

00:30:54.660 the Liberals are capitalizing. Exactly. Well, we can show the Canadian polling averages. I want to show

00:30:59.460 this tweet by Martin Pelletier. Pelletier, I believe that's how you pronounce his name. He writes

00:31:05.860 about just the regional divide. He says, the majority of Eastern Canadians want another decade

00:31:10.100 of what we just had. They want a leader that Trump wants. They want the lowest GDP per capita in the G7.

00:31:15.620 They want to shut down the oil and gas sector. They want to double or quadruple the carbon tax,

00:31:19.780 as long as it's hidden in the prices we pay for goods. They want housing prices to rocket higher.

00:31:24.180 They want affordability to worsen. They want record immigration levels. And then if we can go to that, 0.92

00:31:29.460 the image that he posted with it, and this is something that we've seen everywhere, and it is

00:31:34.100 really just shocking to see the Liberal rebound from the beginning of 2025, Marty. But I do want to point

00:31:40.500 out and emphasize the point that you're making about the NDP collapse, right? So if you just focus on the

00:31:44.580 top line and the Conservatives, right, we see that they really surged at the end of 2023 up until 2024.

00:31:51.540 They were polling in the mid to low 30s throughout 2023. And then 2024, this is when Trudeau just

00:31:58.820 became really, really unpopular. And that's when you start to see the line go down for the Liberals,

00:32:02.740 the red line going down, and the blue line starting to trend upwards. But even if you look throughout

00:32:07.780 2024, the kind of average that we had for the Conservatives was right around 40%. And then it

00:32:14.100 wasn't until the very end of the year that you see it peak up there to really what was unsustainable.

00:32:20.260 Like we knew that the Conservatives were never going to get 45% or 50% of the vote. That was just

00:32:24.260 not going to happen, right? And so then what you see happening in 2025, so just like the very right

00:32:30.020 hand of this graph, is that sure, the Conservatives have gone down a little bit, but really it's the

00:32:36.260 NDP that has collapsed, and that the Liberals are eating the NDP's lunch. So the story of the election,

00:32:42.100 the polling, and the story so far from my mind, is the total collapse of the NDP. Canadians

00:32:48.260 are not happy with the NDP. They're not happy with what Jagmeet Singh did. They see him as a

00:32:52.260 collaborator with Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau was incredibly unpopular, but Jagmeet Singh is right

00:32:56.900 there with him. And so if there's a pathway to Mark Carney winning, it is at the expense of the NDP

00:33:03.300 and Jagmeet Singh and his horrific leadership that he has shown. And for all the, you know,

00:33:08.580 hay that's being made online and with Conservative commentators saying that Pierre Paliyev needs to

00:33:13.460 pivot. Pierre Paliyev has failed. He's not doing well. I don't think that's right. I think that he

00:33:18.420 is still holding his own. He's polling right where he was a year ago, right? There has been no collapse.

00:33:24.340 The collapse happened with the NDP prior with the Liberals and Justin Trudeau, and then Mark Carney's

00:33:29.780 giving them a glimmer of hope. And just judging by Mark Carney's performance on the campaign so far,

00:33:34.500 I don't think he has what it takes. I think that the more Canadians see him, the more they realize

00:33:38.500 who he is and how he behaves and how he views himself, how he handles the media, how he handles

00:33:43.300 himself, they're not going to like it. And I, and that's why I think I'm confident. I think that

00:33:47.460 Pierre Paliyev will win the election. I'm with you there. And that, and, and, and it's a,

00:33:52.980 it doesn't take much. I think in the next four weeks, we should be able to remind Canadians

00:33:58.020 of what the Liberals did to them. I mean, like, and, and the, like, for instance, nobody talked about

00:34:04.260 this week, the inflation numbers came out on Tuesday. So the monthly, the annual inflation

00:34:08.660 numbers came out on, on Tuesday and the year over year inflation went from 1.9 to 2.6%.

00:34:14.740 So that's huge increase. And I can't believe like Canadians are, I can't believe I have to remind 1.00

00:34:20.020 Canadians of things that they live on a day to day basis. Can you afford housing? Will your kids

00:34:25.140 get to buy a house? How's your grocery bill this week? You know, and all those things. So that's going

00:34:30.260 to come back to Canadians right now. Canadians are distracted by Trump. Somebody's told them Trump

00:34:35.060 is bad. There's this tariff war. They're actually going to realize that the tariff war is not impacting

00:34:39.860 them as much as they thought. And then they'll be reminded at some point. It's sad that we have

00:34:44.260 to remind them, but your cost of living is sky high and everything that the Liberals did to you

00:34:48.900 isn't going to change. Because if you vote for liberal, and I keep saying this to people,

00:34:52.660 you're not voting for Mark Carney, folks, you're voting for the liberal party and the whole team.

00:34:58.100 And Mark Carney is one person. So if you vote for the Liberals, you're bringing back like you said,

00:35:02.340 Candace, Chrystia Freeland, Stephen Gilbo, Melanie Jolie, Bill Blair, all the people that did this to us,

00:35:09.540 you're bringing them exactly. And I think that the more that this is framed, the more you realize I

00:35:13.620 want to show this post by a user on x named table salt. I recommend you follow this guy is really good.

00:35:20.180 And he puts a chart of the age breakdown. This is I think, polling averages from 338, maybe.

00:35:26.900 Anyway, he writes this, he says, the election is young working class versus old elite and upper

00:35:33.220 class. This is a revolution election. And then he shows the breakdown here, we can go back to it.

00:35:39.460 So 18 to 34 year olds, conservatives up 42 to 37. 35 to 49 year olds, conservatives up 36 to 32. So

00:35:47.700 we're talking about Gen Z on the left, on the right, we're talking about millennials and Gen Xers. And then

00:35:53.540 underneath you see the baby boomers, baby boomers, 50 to 64 years old, 42% liberals, 33% conservatives,

00:36:02.100 and 65 plus, ouch, 47% liberal, 33% conservative. I mean, I haven't seen anything showing it quite so

00:36:12.420 stark. But really, we're talking about people who have economic security, people who have done well from

00:36:18.180 the economy, people who own homes, and their homes have ballooned in asset value over the last decade,

00:36:24.340 versus everybody else, everybody else who's struggling to get by.

00:36:27.460 It's also shown in, in happiness indexes, there's, there's a, there's a, there's a company that does a

00:36:35.140 happiness index around the world annually. And Canadian, older Canadians are happy, I think we're

00:36:41.380 right, like older Canadians are eighth in the world in terms of happiness. And younger Canadians are like way 0.98

00:36:46.500 down there in 50th position, some of that, you know, and weirdly, some of the happiest young people in

00:36:51.540 the world are from behind the Iron Curtain. They're the, they're, they're Polish people, and they're

00:36:57.620 Slavians and whatnot, who went through this, and then finally came out of it. So yeah, it's a, it's a 1.00

00:37:03.620 generational election. I don't know how you can be a happy, older Canadian knowing that your children

00:37:09.540 and grandchildren can't afford gas, can't afford groceries for their families, can't afford shelter and to

00:37:14.660 buy a home. I don't, I don't understand that. Well, yeah, they go to, they go to Mexico,

00:37:21.220 and they send postcards to their kids having fun without you. Well, I think it's going to be an

00:37:26.820 incredibly important election. And I'm looking forward to it. I think we're going to have some

00:37:31.140 great coverage here at Juno news, we're going to be doing lots of live streams, daily news podcast

00:37:36.340 here at the Candace Malcolm show, we've got the polling, I hope that everybody goes and checks out

00:37:40.500 Juno polls, because I'm really excited about that project. I think it's important to have a polling

00:37:45.140 company that you trust, people that go out and do their own research and own polls in the field,

00:37:51.300 so that we get that, those numbers directly from them, as opposed to the ones that are filtered

00:37:56.500 through the legacy media. And I do think that the media will be working in overdrive to get Mark Carney

00:38:03.140 elected, even though they don't really like him that much. Like I don't, I think that they adore him,

00:38:06.740 and they love the idea of him. But when they have to interact with him, it was really interesting to

00:38:10.420 see Rosemary Barton and Stephanie Levitz get into a feud with him in London, and how he spoke to them.

00:38:16.580 Like I've never seen a politician be that rude. You know, people make a lot of hay about Donald Trump

00:38:22.580 calling the media fake news, a lot of hay about Pierre Polyev saying, rejecting the premise of a

00:38:27.700 question from a journalist. But I've never even seen them use that sort of like condescending,

00:38:32.820 like, just rude tone, like look inside yourself. Last week, there were people calling for Rosemary

00:38:39.540 Barton to be fired from the CBC. I did not have that on my bingo card for 2025. Like that, that's,

00:38:45.860 that's the craziest thing I've ever seen is people calling for her to be fired because she was 1.00

00:38:49.940 disrespectful to Prime Minister Carney by asking him a tough question. I mean, maybe that's what we've

00:38:55.300 come to expect from the CBC, like just softball questions, and she asked a tough one. So

00:38:59.940 But it's interesting, even the realm of what they consider a tough question, right? They would never

00:39:04.900 dare ask Mark Carney an actual tough question. They would never ask him his views on a controversial

00:39:11.140 social issue, right? They don't want to talk about anything that could actually make Mark Carney

00:39:15.540 look offside to Canadians. So they stick to the sort of basic, we're only going to talk about the 1.00

00:39:20.500 economy, we're only going to talk about financial stuff, we're going to just stick in this one narrow

00:39:25.060 field. And everything else is off limits. He's a one trick pony, you're you're spot on,

00:39:30.660 he can talk about, they're parading him as the economic savior who worked for the Bank of Canada,

00:39:36.020 but on all the other issues, immigration, education, social welfare, they're not going to let him talk,

00:39:42.820 because then you're going to see the real Mark Carney, when when he talks about those things, and the

00:39:48.740 elitist, the elitist. And I also think that he is a radical ideologue, I think that he has shown

00:39:54.020 himself, there's a clip of him earlier in the in when he was running for liberal leader,

00:39:57.940 saying that the Americans are fighting a war on woke, but we're going to focus on inclusivity,

00:40:02.340 right? And so I think he is woke, I think he's a very woke left wing person. And the media don't

00:40:07.940 even want to explore that. They're not curious at all to find out like what he means by that,

00:40:12.660 what what aspects of woke does he agree with? Where does he stand on all of these many social issues,

00:40:18.180 it turns out, that are actually quite offside with the Canadian public, they don't want to go

00:40:21.940 hard, far left on things like gender ideology, media, totally not curious about that at all,

00:40:26.420 don't have any interest in finding out where Mark Carney stands on any of those positions.

00:40:31.300 Yeah, go go look at the Brookfield assets ESG report for last year, and you'll get a good idea.

00:40:37.220 There you go. Exactly. All right, Marty, great to have you on the show. Really appreciate it.

00:40:40.500 Hope you have a wonderful weekend. Thanks for joining us. Cheers, everyone. All right,

00:40:43.780 thanks so much for joining us. We'll be back again, I think we're going to be doing a live as if the

00:40:47.860 predictions are correct. And we are going into a federal election and Mark Carney is going to

00:40:52.660 launch it and announce it on Sunday, we'll be live. Otherwise, we'll be back again on Monday

00:40:56.660 morning with all the news. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you so much,

00:41:00.180 and God bless.

Juno News - March 21, 2025

Mark Carney’s DISASTROUS trip to Edmonton

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