Juno News - Media goes into OVERDRIVE to attack Poilievre

00:00:00.320 obviously the title of this episode should be what color is noah's shirt

00:00:05.440 it's two shades of blue it's just blue and blue well phil and i said the bottom half is purple so

00:00:12.480 you guys are you know hold up the bottom more i feel like i don't

00:00:16.480 that's just it's just dark blue because it's like the same as my shirt which is definitely blue is

00:00:20.800 this like exactly you probably have some blue jeans that are like this color right

00:00:25.120 they both of your shirts look very purple to me andrews as well i feel you're the problem

00:00:29.920 here and not because originally you were trying to say that you know men can't you know detect

00:00:33.600 color or whatever but uh well i think one out of twelve men is colorblind so statistically there's

00:00:38.960 a pretty good chance that one of you is colorblind is a riveting man in a past life

00:00:47.200 riveting is i don't see color there who's progressive now folks all right let's get this started

00:01:00.240 hello and welcome to off the record we kick back take a lighter look at the week that was in the

00:01:07.120 news sometimes sometimes we go serious but we try not to too much this is the uh this is the fun

00:01:11.680 show of the week my show is all boring and whatever rachel's is a little bit more interesting but this

00:01:15.840 one we let loose and we talk about a few of the stories that may have flown under the radar in the

00:01:21.680 week previous it is friday so i hope you are set to have a wonderful weekend here i'm joined by

00:01:26.800 my colleagues noah jarvis who is a great journalist and does some work behind the scenes at true north

00:01:32.800 and also rachel emmanuel host of alberta roundup rachel noah good to have you back happy to be here

00:01:40.080 it's a pleasure to be on it's uh sure to be a great discussion well that's uh overly ambitious i think

00:01:44.880 although we did so we had no on it was his debut last week and uh the people uh were not displeased by

00:01:50.640 it so uh how do you feel coming back oh uh feels great uh the conversation we had last week uh it

00:01:56.960 was fun uh i got a little uh chance to do this uh so i'm i'm sure it'll be another great conversation

00:02:03.600 and uh we'll have some uh serious talk but i'm pretty sure we'll also have some uh laughs in between

00:02:08.640 also i was listening to the daily wire this week and noah referred to me as miss emmanuel no

00:02:14.000 i'm pretty sure i'm like five years older than you you can just call me rachel did you just name

00:02:19.040 our own show at true north sorry yeah it's called daily daily wire oh yeah well the show that it's

00:02:25.360 modeled after whoa all right rachel's never coming i i thought last week the great offensive bit was

00:02:32.400 noah and harrison talking about sports but now uh rachel is just calling us a a pale imitation of the uh

00:02:38.720 the daily wire all right ambitious shoes to fill nothing wrong with that all right but yeah i did

00:02:44.400 yeah i did enjoy that that you were like you became like a school marm in the episode with

00:02:48.000 just new ms emmanuel it's like can i go to the bathroom please ms emmanuel well now that she's a

00:02:52.480 mother i feel like it's a bit more respectable you know i just have to you know treat her with that

00:02:56.640 elderly respect oh elderly respect all right if you're gonna call me mrs anything you should at least

00:03:02.640 figure out what my married last name is how about that noah you must be single sorry i i definitely

00:03:08.480 have yeah okay you're calling rachel elderly okay all right we're just gonna get into this

00:03:13.360 here because this is the i know i am saving you from yourself here all right uh this uh story that

00:03:18.720 came out this we see rachel staring daggers at him now and i don't blame her uh this story that came

00:03:23.680 out this week uh speaking of staring daggers the liberals have been uh whipping up the alex jones uh

00:03:30.080 fanaticism here because they claim that uh pierre pauliav and alex jones are in cahoot for

00:03:35.600 something somewhere somehow i don't quite get it but uh pierre pauliav was campaigning through

00:03:40.320 eastern canada he saw a little protest of the carbon tax protesters who have been going for

00:03:46.400 now 26 days and decided to pull over and have a little chat with them this was uh he ended up

00:03:52.480 touring their camper take a look

00:03:59.040 you guys get a shower yeah yeah yeah yeah this is where i sleep

00:04:04.320 he doesn't want to get a picture beside the uh the f trudeau flag

00:04:32.160 we see him kind of answering questions what we see

00:04:40.320 so he's chatting with people that are out there and have been for a few weeks protesting the carbon

00:04:44.720 tax they've been going on for more than three weeks and you look at that video as i did when

00:04:49.520 it first went around and just saw pierre pauliav talking to ordinary people but oh no no the liberals

00:04:55.520 were really really searching they were bent over squinting squinting squinting uh throw up that

00:05:02.000 meme i got a live shot of the liberal yeah that's the if you've seen that meme before you'll appreciate

00:05:07.040 the humor that's the liberals craning looking at every sticker that pierre pauliav walked by and oh

00:05:13.040 they found one yes this is what they found if you zoom in and look really really closely uh yeah pierre

00:05:19.360 polyev a hashtag there that says save canada a peace sign a heart a cross a heart with uh what

00:05:26.160 i believe says mem which uh i don't know if it was supposed to say mom but uh whatever and then oh

00:05:31.360 and then what's that little one in the middle there the rectangle with a line through well that is

00:05:36.080 the flag of a fictional country called diagonal which has become a a community of sorts online it

00:05:43.840 was started by jeremy mckenzie you have some people in that group that have said some rather

00:05:49.040 vile things and not limited to making rape jokes about uh pierre pauliav's wife anna so i i don't

00:05:54.720 believe that he has any time or respect or affinity for that group uh who by the way as i understand it

00:05:59.520 wasn't even at the protest someone who signed that camper uh what just put that on there it wasn't even

00:06:05.200 like the guy who gave pauliav the tour was involved but that becomes the focal point of all of

00:06:10.480 this so uh let's start with you on this rachel you've covered these carbon tax protests in alberta

00:06:16.480 that have been going on and these are people that really just want the carbon tax gone so this far

00:06:22.080 right conspiracy of sorts i'm not seeing have you no you're exactly right it's just people who are

00:06:27.600 tired of the trudeau liberals they want the carbon tax gone if you were to go to the one down here close

00:06:32.640 to my house outside of calgary you would see a variety of signs of different types people are you

00:06:37.040 know have a host of complaints due to their government due to the world economic forum due

00:06:41.120 to the un even a couple signs you know people saying danielle smith should be out here so

00:06:44.800 certainly you'll get a wide variety of things but if you ask around everyone's there for one reason

00:06:49.120 and that reason is to protest the federal government's carbon tax this is of course another

00:06:54.400 example of the liberals grasping up straws you know they they don't like that uh pierre pauliav

00:06:59.200 mingles with these people they don't like the support that pierre pauliav has and certainly

00:07:02.640 don't like to see him being so casual you know it's so easy for him to go out and about and be

00:07:06.800 among canadian people and he has a lot of respect and admiration people are excited about him people

00:07:11.040 are excited about what the conservative party is offering and hopeful that the next federal election

00:07:14.960 will bring about conservative government whereas likewise when justin trudeau is walking around you

00:07:20.000 have people booing him and heckling him and we even had a case of people throwing stones at him at one

00:07:23.840 point so yeah such polar opposites with what you see among the two leaders when they go out in public

00:07:29.120 yeah that's a good point let me get your take on that noah because i know you've been at press

00:07:34.560 conferences when pierre pauliav is there and uh they're not met with the protest that justin trudeau

00:07:40.000 is getting any time he he goes somewhere and here you have him talking to people by the way not all

00:07:44.240 of them would have been supporters some of them might have been ppc supporters or otherwise not

00:07:48.320 interested in the conservatives but the idea of just turning that rather pure exchange into this

00:07:54.560 weird fringe far-right conspiracy just seems to be absurd and pretty desperate on the part of the

00:08:00.400 liberals oh it's absolutely absurd they're trying to link him to alex jones and now because of the

00:08:06.080 the clip that came out a couple days ago they're trying to link him to diagonal as you mentioned

00:08:10.400 it's a fake country uh when trudeau said that at the press conference uh condemning uh poliav for

00:08:16.560 meeting with members of diagonal i had to laugh because you know they want a diagonal country from alaska to

00:08:22.000 florida uh which is obviously not going to happen they believe a bunch of wacky things and not to

00:08:26.880 mention the fact that pure polia have actually denounced these guys before they said awful things

00:08:31.280 about his wife uh and he condemned them so to try and link him with a diagonal it's just strange because

00:08:36.960 you could link him with like something that's actually real that actually you know people believe

00:08:41.520 in uh which diagonal is not one of those things i'm pretty sure those uh you know people camping out

00:08:46.320 just put that on their rv as a joke because uh that's what it is uh and you know it's kind of

00:08:50.480 concerning that uh people who are supposed to try and take themselves seriously like journalists

00:08:54.960 or politicians uh they can't uh differentiate between things that are serious and that things

00:09:00.320 that are fictional and you know should be taken as a joke uh you know dag dagelon is clearly a joke

00:09:05.440 and uh their desperate attempt to link him with uh it is just stupid you have better things to do go

00:09:11.040 govern the country you know uh you know try and uh you know actually listen to what the protesters are

00:09:15.680 saying rather than just trying to shout them down as extremists yeah since you mentioned it here was

00:09:21.040 the clip of justin trudeau responding to this which is really what made it a national story i think

00:09:27.600 hi michelle song with cbc news uh your opponent was photographed posing with anti-carbon tax protesters

00:09:34.720 flying f trudeau flags in that in the video pierre polyev is heard saying that you are a liar and

00:09:40.720 everything you say is quote can you can we get your response please every politician has to make

00:09:49.840 choices about what kind of leader they want to be are they the kind of leader that is going to

00:09:57.520 exacerbate divisions fears and polarization in our country make personal attacks and welcome

00:10:06.960 the support of conspiracy theorists uh and extremists because that's exactly what pierre polyev

00:10:15.440 continues to do not just when he you see him engaging with members of diagonal but also when he refuses

00:10:26.160 to condemn and reject the endorsement of alex jones

00:10:31.680 again they're still not getting over alex jones mentioning like one thing in passing on twitter

00:10:39.920 favorably about polyev a couple of weeks ago and then he sort of re-upped that uh the other day by

00:10:44.800 saying that oh he talks about a lot of things that that i agree with but rachel what's your take from

00:10:48.800 that clip i mean prime minister justin trudeau is so focused on the type of leader that pierre polyev

00:10:53.600 should be what about the type of leader that he is he's the type of leader that has bankrupted this

00:10:57.840 nation home prices are what 60 70 higher than they were when he took office people don't have

00:11:02.640 family doctors because of the number of people he's flooded into this country hospitals are a

00:11:05.920 disaster canada is crumbling around us and all of us are very cognizant of that fact all of us

00:11:11.920 live that experience every day especially people my age group and noah's age group we are really

00:11:16.160 feeling the crunch and the impacts of justin trudeau's reign on our on our country and on our economy

00:11:21.360 and this is just another distraction they're trying so hard to play the same games they always play

00:11:25.600 and it's just not working like it used to work uh these these types of answers these types of

00:11:29.520 questions i think are falling on deaf ears i don't think canadians care i don't think canadians care

00:11:33.520 about the endorsement that pure poly have received from alex jones these are just not the issues people

00:11:38.160 are focused on people are focused on really those bread and butter issues right now and uh i just don't

00:11:42.800 think trudeau is having the same impact that he used to have yeah go take take it away noah yeah when i see

00:11:50.000 that clip i i just think it's funny it's like it's really funny that trudeau is taking diagonal

00:11:55.200 seriously like imagine if you know trudeau took the walrus or the rhinoceros party seriously like

00:12:00.400 it's like oh you know that rhinoceros party there they want to uh you know like i don't

00:12:05.760 even know i'm amazed you're old enough to know about the rhinoceros party are they even still a thing

00:12:10.640 no i i don't think so but i'm like i like it it was a good good deep cut yeah but it was like you

00:12:15.760 know if if like jonka chan back then took the rhino party seriously it's like what are you doing you know

00:12:21.680 like you know actually focus on things that are serious like actually focus about you know the

00:12:25.680 serious concerns that these protesters are talking about they want you to get rid of a carbon tax that

00:12:30.000 is making their cost of living you know a lot higher the issue here is actually that trudeau finds his

00:12:34.720 job boring so he doesn't want to focus on any of those things exactly like even if you just look in

00:12:39.920 the clip like you know his tie is not tied up you know all right you know he's kind of disheveled it's

00:12:44.320 like he's sick of this job it's like i'm done with this yeah i'm gonna talk about you know some

00:12:48.000 foolishness about diagon or whatever like he's completely done with his job and obviously not

00:12:52.480 taking it seriously uh sean did some real-time fact-checking our producer he says the rhinoceros

00:12:58.560 party is technically around but uh he says no sign of life since 2019 so i guess the uh the rhino has

00:13:04.960 been declared extinct in canada uh five years ago they harvested the rhino the rhino horn for ivory so

00:13:11.280 yeah yeah no you can't do that no no trophy hunting in uh in canada noah um but oh sean's

00:13:16.960 sean's still working he says they re-upped their copyright in 2024 so maybe the the rhino party is

00:13:23.040 comeback of some kind there's no way they can do a worse job than what trudeau is currently doing so

00:13:27.600 no yeah no i think i think the liberals are a joke political party so i i actually think that

00:13:31.680 the joke political parties you're right rachel would do a better job better than trudeau that

00:13:35.760 can be their slogan they've got my vote yeah or it or at least it can't the rhino party it can't

00:13:40.160 be worse that could be their uh their tagline this was the other clip that you heard uh that

00:13:45.120 reporter ask about it but the one clip that really aggrieved some people uh for perhaps

00:13:50.240 being unparliamentary from uh paulia everyone's happy with what you're doing

00:13:56.560 fighting against the attacks everyone hates the attacks everyone's been screwed over

00:14:01.680 i think that people believe his lies everything he said

00:14:09.760 we we tend to use you know delicate language on our other shows but i think on off the record we can be

00:14:15.520 be slightly more irreverent so uh paulia there says everything justin trudeau says is

00:14:20.240 bullshit uh i think that uh more canadians would find they agree with that than are offended by it

00:14:26.080 right oh no doubt no doubt i mean he's not in parliament he's not actually in the house of

00:14:30.320 commons he can talk like a regular canadian which is exactly what he's doing there plus i think that

00:14:34.320 especially egregious circumstances require strong language and i think we can all agree that

00:14:39.600 justin trudeau is a circumstance which requires strong language

00:14:43.280 yeah i mean like when the conservatives are in like their caucus room you know they're probably

00:14:47.600 using the same language and the liberals are in their caucus room they're doing the same thing

00:14:51.280 and same with the mdp i mean these are human beings who like you know talk normally i think it's fine

00:14:55.840 that he's allowed to you know curse there's no rule against uh mps not being able to curse in their

00:15:01.200 private lives uh curse word i i mean everyone get people get weirdly pearl clutchy when someone they

00:15:08.800 don't like uses it like remember when pierre trudeau himself had famously sworn in the house of

00:15:13.920 commons and when he was asked he had said no no i just said fuddle duddle like that was the

00:15:18.320 but it was like everyone does this so the idea that people like pretend to get offended by it is is

00:15:22.400 quite quaint i just wasn't you know i feel like it's become so common and you know maybe there is a

00:15:28.720 place to have words that are still considered swear words and not to have them in regular language i do

00:15:33.440 think like i said justin judeau would be a place where we could use that but i just wasn't even aware that it was

00:15:37.680 still considered a swear word i just feel like it's become so common well i mean well the reporter

00:15:42.160 just freely said it when she was asking the question like you know he he said everything you

00:15:45.600 say is bs and uh again a lot of canadians were probably like amen uh all right let's uh let's shift

00:15:51.520 gears from the liberals and conservatives to the ndp noah take it away yeah so basically jagmeet

00:15:58.320 singh he's uh in desperate uh situation right now because uh he signed on to the ndp liberal coalition

00:16:04.720 and uh his polling numbers have not uh done well as a result of that however he's taking this to

00:16:10.480 he's taking his tactics to a new extreme now he's going around lying that uh piripolyev wants to allow

00:16:16.080 polluters to dump toxic waste into canadian waters uh so now i guess you know piripolyev he wants to

00:16:22.720 you know poison the fish and you know kill all the people on the saint lawrence uh river you know

00:16:27.040 really appeal appealing that got dark i mean that's what he makes it seem like you know he said

00:16:33.120 quote he has spent a lot of time making it very clear that piripolyev's approach that has uh no

00:16:37.840 climate plan and that he's going to let big polluters dump toxic waste in the rivers uh when

00:16:42.160 did piripolyev say that well he didn't say that i think um he hasn't you know mentioned that he's

00:16:47.520 going to get rid of any environmental uh regulations besides uh bill c46 and bill c69 which does not

00:16:54.080 prevent uh which those bills uh do not have wording that prevents uh polluters from doxing uh dumping

00:17:00.080 toxic waste into waterways uh but i think this story just really emblematic of the fact that now the

00:17:05.440 ndp they're really desperate we're about a year and a half away uh from the 2025 election if all things

00:17:11.920 go according to plan uh and the ndp they have not been doing well in the polls their polling numbers are

00:17:18.080 attached to the liberals because they sign on an agreement and they have to sign off on all the matter

00:17:23.920 uh all confidence motions uh in parliament uh so their their reputation is tied to this uh dying

00:17:30.800 liberal party so he has to make erroneous statements in order to say conjure up some support but do you

00:17:35.840 think do you guys think that this is gonna you know bring canadians onto his side well i mean i

00:17:41.360 totally agree that we shouldn't be dumping sewage waste into the water i love swimming and i hate when

00:17:46.800 i'm swimming in lake ontario and you're just kind of looking around and you're like uh what's in this

00:17:50.800 water with me it's just you kind of swimming lake ontario yeah lots of people swim in lake ontario

00:17:57.040 i don't mind cold water i love to swim i love swimming in fresh water i wish that we had cleaner

00:18:01.600 lakes in ontario when i'm home to visit that's always something that kind of bothers me so you

00:18:05.440 know i i agree with the policy but you know peer probably have never said those things i think the

00:18:09.760 question here is it's just interesting or noteworthy why can jagmeet singh say these pure lies like he just

00:18:16.320 made it up and he just gets away with it like we're the ones kind of holding him to account here

00:18:20.720 meanwhile peer polyev goes to a protest with some regular canadians and we see the uh liberal staffers

00:18:27.680 in the mainstream media really just leech on to the fact that there was one diagonal symbol symbol there

00:18:32.000 like we have a we have a leader of the opposition he's just full on he's full on lying here and no one

00:18:36.720 cares yeah and it's weird like i remember when when donald trump was the president in the us you this

00:18:41.840 idea of like the media fact check became this whole industry you had that toronto star reporter daniel

00:18:47.200 dale that was hired by cnn and the fact checks when they when they were about trump were so hyper

00:18:52.240 specific it's like oh uh you know trump said unemployment was 4.2 percent but it's actually

00:18:56.720 4.3 percent like it they really missed the point of it and then and then again when there are

00:19:02.400 conservatives the media is so passionate about just being so hyper technical and look facts matter

00:19:07.920 but when the left makes comments like this there's no one except in this case true north fact checking

00:19:13.280 it and uh cosmon georgia our colleague at true north who wrote that article uh reached out to

00:19:18.000 the ndp and said hey what what is the basis for this what's the policy that you're hinging this claim

00:19:23.840 on and got no reply whatsoever so uh in in that case i think it's clear that he literally is just

00:19:29.280 making this up and you get to do that when you're in the ndp or the liberals with relative impunity

00:19:33.760 yeah i mean the reason why the ndp didn't respond to our request for comment is because like they

00:19:39.360 didn't make it they didn't base on anything factual um the ndp they don't make a habit of responding to

00:19:44.960 our request for comment that's for sure but well yeah rachel has to like yell yell her questions at

00:19:49.280 rachel notley uh to get a response i did get a response the other week so maybe that policy has

00:19:54.480 changed which my voice will be thankful for the break hey who knows uh going forward but uh it just

00:20:00.400 it just goes to show that you know like they're desperate i think you know their rationale in their

00:20:04.640 head is like oh you know the he's a little purpleiev is like this hyper libertarian uh who wants to

00:20:10.080 deregulate everything and you know you know those libertarians they want to you know allow big

00:20:14.720 corporations to dump sewage into waterways right but like even the milton friedman who's like you know

00:20:19.680 like a strict classical liberal you know he wants to basically cut like most government uh agencies

00:20:25.040 uh even he's like yeah this is not like a good idea you're not allowed to dump toxic waste into

00:20:29.280 waterways that you know the public uses it's um i forget i forget the word he's it's um has community

00:20:35.840 effects right oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it has uh doing so would have community effects uh so you know

00:20:42.320 even libertarians uh don't agree uh that we should be able to do this i think you know you'd have to

00:20:47.680 find like some anarcho communist who you know who wants to get rid of the government or whatever to uh

00:20:53.440 you know buy into that but nobody wants this to happen i think you know if pure poland was campaigning

00:20:58.240 on this he would lose in a landslide uh but he's actually gonna apparently win in a landslide

00:21:03.360 according to the poll so um you know maybe jagmeet singh should take a play a page out of his playbook

00:21:09.360 which is more harmful to canada toxic waste that pierre polyeb will let be dumped into the sewer

00:21:13.920 or anything jagmeet singh says hmm they're both forms of toxic waste i guess except one doesn't exist

00:21:20.640 because the policy doesn't exist you know that's a good question but i think uh jagmeet singh

00:21:26.160 his toxic waste really really it's only you know affecting him and his party so uh i don't think

00:21:31.440 that jagmeet singh actually has any sway over canadian policy at all well he could he could

00:21:36.480 this is like my long-standing group we all know he could but he doesn't yeah he could be like the

00:21:41.440 most powerful figure in canada which i mean you know haven't helped us but he he wields exactly zero

00:21:46.080 influence he's the guy like jack if jack leighton was in this position yeah if jack leighton was in

00:21:50.400 his position he'd you know he'd be getting a bunch of ndp policies uh passed but uh jack leighton would

00:21:55.360 be like the deputy prime minister by now if he were yeah he had been yeah check me saying he's only

00:21:59.600 dangerous to himself so uh i don't know if uh he can really uh make an evaluation there so if you're

00:22:05.600 watching jugby which i highly doubt we are trying to save you from yourself here find your power find

00:22:11.040 your inner voice maybe read uh sophie gregoire trudeau's new memoir and you can find some uh some

00:22:16.000 empowerment tips in there have you read that by the way yet uh rachel am i supposed to well i don't

00:22:21.440 know it's it's like it's it's that category of of you know literature for women i just didn't know if

00:22:25.600 you were the i didn't think you were the target demo but you never know how would i read it and

00:22:29.840 i'll review it on this show in a couple weeks you you we could do a dramatic reading of sophie gregoire

00:22:35.680 trudeau's book i think that would be very engaging maybe noah should do it though yeah i mean i think

00:22:40.640 better justice i i think i would but i think i think it'd be more entertaining if noah did it oh

00:22:45.600 yeah but i think i think i think i think jagme really should because you know he's getting notes

00:22:50.080 from uh trudeau's former partner to his you know current partner right it's like hey uh it's part

00:22:55.360 partnership tips you know i uh maybe i should read it because i'm single but you know who knows

00:23:00.800 i do not condone with the joke i think you were making there uh noah i shall uh she'll make a point

00:23:05.920 i tried to dance around with the manual stuff earlier i tried to dance around it i don't think

00:23:11.680 i did the best job people can clear from it what they will all right rachel save us go to the next

00:23:16.320 story all right so alberta premier danielle smith is coming under fire now for appointing a so-called

00:23:22.080 contrarian doctor dr gary davidson suggested that data collected from hospitals during the covet 19 pandemic

00:23:31.440 was exaggerated um so premier smith responded to this in the legislature on tuesday and she said

00:23:37.840 quote i needed somebody who was going to look at everything that happened with some fresh eyes

00:23:42.480 and maybe with a little bit of a contrarian perspective because we've only ever been given

00:23:47.520 one perspective i left it to davidson to assemble the panel with a guidance that i would like to have

00:23:53.200 broad range of perspectives so i guess the only question here is is it still a question that hospitals

00:24:00.560 exaggerated coven 19 data i thought we were all just sort of operating under the assumption that

00:24:04.240 that's exactly what happened well and the other point just to take a step back here i wanted to ask

00:24:10.160 about the why because in some ways it seemed like danielle smith has really wanted to just move beyond this

00:24:16.000 chapter and i was actually quite surprised that the government was doing a deep dive into this

00:24:23.280 yeah i mean i think a lot of us felt that way because she's expressed repeatedly that it's time to

00:24:26.720 move on and with some of the stuff that she'd promised about um you know granting amnesty of

00:24:30.800 course she realized that she wouldn't be able to do that but we've definitely seen the government

00:24:33.920 turn the page on this i mean the task force was initially created back in 2022 and we're still

00:24:39.440 waiting for the work on this so this is something that's been in in kind of the progress for a while

00:24:42.960 now we're just getting an update as to it but i know that a lot of her supporters i think are going

00:24:46.880 to be very happy to see that this is happening and are obviously very excited to see the results but

00:24:51.040 yeah like as to you know maybe danielle smith not really wanting to address these things this has been in the works for a couple

00:24:55.360 years now already okay and no what's your take on this are you optimistic or do you think that at the

00:24:59.760 end of it it just won't really matter well uh i'm of two minds of this i think firstly you know the fact

00:25:05.280 that danielle smith is you know using some of her political capital to sort of push on this issue

00:25:09.760 uh it is a good thing it seems as if you know it's been something she cared about when she was running

00:25:14.160 in the leadership race uh providing amnesty uh to those who were convicted of i think covet fines uh

00:25:20.800 was something she ran on uh and you know she's been uh quite vocal on this issue so i think you

00:25:25.360 know it's good that not only is she moving forward with this task force but she appointed someone who

00:25:29.520 was skeptical of the government narrative as were many albertans so i think this doctor not only

00:25:34.400 represents the many of the views of your average albertan but i also think it would provide a much

00:25:39.440 needed uh alternative perspective to the coven 19 narrative uh with that said i think some of the

00:25:45.200 concerns that rachel brought up were absolutely correct miss emmanuel brought up were absolutely correct

00:25:49.360 uh in that uh you know if this task force goes nowhere uh i think a lot of the people who are

00:25:55.200 affected by the copen 19 lockdowns and vaccine mandates will have no redress uh and if we don't

00:26:01.920 have you know a sort of uh definitive uh conclusion that the government sort of overstepped in their use

00:26:09.040 of these copen 19 uh mandates and powers i think when a future government wants to enact these mandates

00:26:15.200 of powers in 2040 uh for you know covet uh 40 or whatever uh there perhaps will we won't perhaps

00:26:22.960 learn our lessons uh from this pandemic and that's what really has me concerned did much come rachel

00:26:28.560 from the the review that preston manning did for the alberta government well i just wanted to get back

00:26:33.760 to what noah said and i think that it was um you know you raise a really good point and also i would say

00:26:38.960 you know one of the things about gary davidson being in this position is he's actually a doctor that has

00:26:43.040 a lot of respect within the province i constantly reverse were laid off because they refused the

00:26:48.320 covet 19 vaccine vaccine and they have a lot of good things to say about him he was someone people

00:26:52.880 felt like he really stood up for them so i think the fact that he is doing this review and is leading

00:26:57.120 it is kind of exact what the province needs right now there was a lot of people who were hurt and who

00:27:00.480 were damaged by the policies that were put in place in alberta and elsewhere of course and now that

00:27:04.960 they have someone that they feel stood up for them that they can respect doing this review i think

00:27:08.480 is a really good way to build back that trust and of course we've all seen the ways that our

00:27:12.000 institutions have been broken and just the lack of trust in the democratic process as a whole

00:27:16.240 because of the way that our government has acted i would personally be surprised if we didn't see

00:27:19.520 any strong recommendations come out of this hopefully in you know 2040 or whatever we're

00:27:22.960 not seeing these types of recommendations i don't think that canadian people would tolerate that any

00:27:26.560 further but certainly when it comes to things like vaccine mandates i have a feeling we're going to

00:27:30.560 be seeing more here in alberta specifically that would present prevent those types of mandates from

00:27:34.640 happening again yeah and and these things are important because you can't roll back the clock you

00:27:39.760 can't undo what was done i i mean danielle smith did give her apology on behalf of the alberta

00:27:44.960 government to to unvaccinated people but it does serve as a useful document anytime a government in

00:27:50.720 the future if there's an ndp government in alberta say or even another province that wants to go down

00:27:55.120 this road to kind of hold up this thing and brush the dust off and say hang on like we we have tried

00:28:00.160 this before and this is what came of it so i think that's the issue is that the government claimed the

00:28:04.800 first time around that well we had no road map for this and we were just sort of flailing in the

00:28:08.800 wind and and now okay great you did it your way uh here is why you can never be allowed to do it again

00:28:15.680 yes exactly it just kind of makes me wonder what sort of crazy and new evil things will be come up

00:28:20.240 with to uh strip away our rights and freedoms i'm sure there's going to be something else coming down

00:28:24.480 the pipe don't give them ideas uh noah you've got the last word on this yeah i mean uh if the alberta or if

00:28:32.160 albertans ever elect another ndp government again i think uh you know they they could remove some of

00:28:37.520 the guardrails that perhaps uh premier smith will put up but i think you know just to put up uh some

00:28:42.240 guardrails to prevent some of uh these lockdowns and uh horrific uh mandates uh would be appreciated

00:28:48.480 by albertans to just make it harder make the ndp a future ndp government make a political decision in

00:28:54.080 removing that and expend some political capital that way uh but i in in general i think you know what

00:28:59.360 premier smith has been doing uh so far on the coven 19 issue has been a lot but she's done

00:29:04.960 her tact on this issue has been a lot better than uh bc ontario whatever province you name it

00:29:09.760 uh she's been uh better on this issue uh and so i think you know i'm in ontario i would love

00:29:14.960 doug ford to take some uh to take some tips from her you guys uh got it uh real real nice down there

00:29:20.160 in alberta don't you guys we worked hard alberta's calling this was the whole campaign

00:29:24.320 it's not about having it nice it's about it's about working hard to get the politicians that you

00:29:29.120 want and holding them to account well you guys work uh hard that's for sure albertans work very

00:29:34.320 hard yes all right uh well uh noah will be taking up residency in alberta before long i'm sure we'll

00:29:40.720 we'll have a new alberta roundup uh co-host there uh we try to end things on a bit of a lighter note

00:29:46.080 each week this one it's actually quite ridiculous and absurd but uh there's a humor in that uh this is

00:29:52.640 from our colleague lindsay shepherd at true north canadian university host event featuring stuffies

00:29:58.480 poppet toys and crayons not for children but for adults this is at quantland university in surrey bc

00:30:05.760 they opened a so-called reduced sensory space during exams so university students these are people aged

00:30:13.440 you know 18 to 23 and up can uh hang out in between exams and play with plushies crayons

00:30:21.200 stim toys which are reversible octopuses or is it octopi octopities and fidget poppers which i think

00:30:29.600 are like it's a weird like silicon bubble wrap type thing that you you i don't know why i'm doing this

00:30:34.400 but that you pop uh it's a fully inclusive and supported space the university says uh they provide

00:30:40.880 environments for people to decompress and have much needed breaks from overwhelming sensory input

00:30:45.040 uh like noise and crowds uh smells lighting strong emotions and socializing so i guess if like more

00:30:50.960 than one person are in the reduced sensory space it uh no longer is reducing your sensory because you

00:30:56.400 have to socialize with them um so so there are rooms where i would love as an adult to unwind like

00:31:02.320 if there was like a scotch and cigar lounge that sounds like a good way to unwind if there were just

00:31:07.520 like a room with some comfy couches and a jigsaw puzzle the plush toys for adults and the like

00:31:14.320 things that you use for kids with developmental disabilities for university students stressed

00:31:19.360 out seems like a bit of a stretch noah you're a student is this uh is this what you've come to

00:31:23.840 expect on campus you know when i walk around new york university i just finished a class and i'm

00:31:28.800 thinking how am i gonna decompress how am i gonna relax you know the first thing that comes to mind

00:31:33.120 definitely isn't you know i'm gonna go get on my hands and knees and start uh you know scribbling

00:31:38.080 with the crayola or play with there put that picture up again sean one of them i think that's

00:31:44.000 like a peppa pig stuffed toy or whatever so you don't want to like play with your peppa pig stuffy noah

00:31:49.360 you know i haven't really uh you know had that desire but i i know my i know my 10 year old

00:31:54.240 sister does uh actually she turned uh 11 today uh so happy birthday to her but um yeah i think like

00:31:59.600 you know one of those stem toes you're describing like she has that uh in her toy box and you know

00:32:04.080 it's reversible or whatever and she stopped playing with that because she's too old for that uh so at

00:32:09.840 11 she's too old for it yeah 20 year old undergrads are not too old for it exactly you know i'm 21 right

00:32:16.080 now and you know just to think that there's people my age who are you know getting ready to go into the

00:32:20.400 workforce you know to be serious people you know they're gonna get ready to raise families you know they

00:32:25.760 they need to you know go to a room to play with crayons and you know little plushy toys it's

00:32:31.040 ridiculous is this what uh you know i mean first of all uh universities are funded by taxpayer dollars

00:32:36.400 so um this is what taxpayer dollars are going to uh is this what my tuition fees are going to i mean

00:32:40.800 i don't go to uh this university but you know for those who do go to university their tuition dollars

00:32:45.920 are going to fund this and it's absolutely ridiculous i i don't i hope nobody has the uh the need to

00:32:52.000 go visit this room you know if you if you really have problems like that go see a therapist

00:32:56.240 uh i mean that and you know the university they provide those counseling services you know go and

00:33:01.520 do that um but if you need you know a fidget spinner or like crayons go back to grade five come on

00:33:08.480 i'm just imagining you know the rachel emmanuel of bc uh i mean i don't know that bc could produce a

00:33:13.520 rachel emmanuel but uh you know going and saying oh great there's a daycare let me drop my kid off and

00:33:18.240 then they go no no this is this is for you ma'am i was actually just thinking that that would be a

00:33:22.400 really great place to take my baby he would enjoy a lot of those things from the sound of it but i

00:33:26.320 wouldn't really want him anywhere near all those creepy weirdos so um probably best that i stay away

00:33:30.560 from there you know i liked playing with stuffed animals when i was a kid just as much as the next

00:33:34.240 person i think i did play with them a little bit past 11 but uh that these kids are definitely too old

00:33:39.680 for this i think part of the issue is i was listening to michael doles recently and he had a

00:33:43.120 sort of interesting analysis that people these days aren't taught how to spend their time

00:33:47.040 relaxing like what should you actually do when you're relaxing a lot of people think it's mindlessly

00:33:51.360 scrolling on their phone but no that's not actually a good way of relaxing i think this is like

00:33:55.040 that to a heightened extent where kids are like i don't know what to do on campus i feel all stressed

00:33:59.440 out i don't know what to do with my emotions my feelings and so they revert back to being a child

00:34:04.400 which is probably why we have all these like part of the reason why we're seeing all this like creepy

00:34:08.320 weirdness of people like not knowing what age they are and what gender they are and thinking they can be

00:34:11.680 anything they want no you really just probably need to go for like a walk or you know if the

00:34:15.920 situation's gotten that bad take noah's advice and maybe go see a therapist yeah i think there was a

00:34:21.440 seinfeld episode years ago where elaine was so perturbed that her boyfriend uh putty was going to

00:34:27.520 be just sitting on a plane and just staring ahead without watching something or doing something and

00:34:32.000 i was thinking of that when you described that the people don't actually know how to fill their time

00:34:35.760 so like they they need distractions instead of just you know hey just relax yeah yeah i don't know

00:34:43.040 if you guys saw like this uh documentary years ago but it was like this uh man who like once he came

00:34:48.560 home from his accounting job or whatever he was like yeah tell his wife to dress him in the diaper

00:34:52.720 and you know he'd like uh play around as a baby or whatever this is like what this reminds me about

00:34:57.760 it's like you know we're just in fact and you know it's a disturbing image uh if you if you have the

00:35:02.720 time maybe don't want don't look it up but don't don't don't extend this to all of us if you have

00:35:08.880 some time to relax later tonight do i have the show for you watch a grown man parading around with

00:35:13.600 his wife in a diaper yeah that's how you can relax forget about the plushies but but it's it's extremely

00:35:19.360 disturbing right so like you know the fact that you know we have like people who you know these are

00:35:23.680 going to be the next politicians i'm sure pretty sure like in 10 in 10 years uh the house yeah this is

00:35:28.960 like this is the bc ndp leadership lounge i think yeah in 10 years uh in the bc uh provincial

00:35:34.960 legislature they're gonna have to open up a room uh just like this you know they're gonna have your

00:35:38.560 plushies and you know after after a really rigorous question period you know the mps are

00:35:42.720 gonna go on there and play with their crayons and a little plushies and it's you know it's gonna

00:35:46.720 be nice fun time you know the staffers like oh do you want some milk uh you know so it's uh

00:35:53.360 it's it's really depressing um if this is you know the future uh the future of our country that's for sure

00:35:59.520 rachel do you have anything or no you just you know you have to laugh or you'll cry it's just

00:36:04.720 yeah yeah well and if you do cry too much you can always go to the bc sensory deprivation lounge

00:36:09.760 or whatever the heck it was called at quantland university all right that does it for us my thanks

00:36:14.080 to noah jarvis and rachel emmanuel for coming on for off the record i'm andrew lawton and remember

00:36:19.680 everything you've just heard was off the record

00:36:30.320 i have some questions about your viewing habits noah

00:36:34.320 you know uh what was it what was this dog was are you sure it was a documentary by the way and not like

00:36:39.200 another type of video yeah it was like one of those like weird episodic shows where like you know each

00:36:44.240 episode they yeah i don't know but they they showcase like these like weird people like weird

00:36:50.480 habits and like you know he just like my strange addiction yeah yeah my strange addiction something

00:36:55.200 like that you know so uh i'm telling you i'm not making it up i don't have weird viewing no i

00:36:59.840 believe i very very much believe you i think last episode the fact that you're able to list off

00:37:05.200 a bunch of cbc shows is like far more weird than that all right like the fact that we write about

00:37:09.440 them we've never written about this stuff i don't think we should either uh i don't know i don't

00:37:13.360 know andrew it seems like you're a cbc shell are being paid by them are you friends with katherine

00:37:17.920 tate no no she doesn't return my calls like uh that one reporter that tried to get her on his show

00:37:24.480 well how about you rachel uh you're friends with the cbc i know you i know you're still working

00:37:28.400 are you a state broadcaster shill rachel yeah own up to it i'm just undercover guys i'm not even

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