Juno News - Media in overdrive to advocate for vaccines in kids aged 5-11

00:00:00.080 COVID vaccines are now available for little kids, so let the fear-mongering begin.

00:00:05.220 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:12.160 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in today.

00:00:14.100 Thank you for your ongoing support of The Candice Malcolm Show as well as of True North, TNC.news.

00:00:19.400 It is so important in this country that we have independent media, that we have groups like True North telling the other side of the story.

00:00:26.020 And today I'm going to focus in on one of the reasons why it is so important that we have independent media and we have the other side of the story being told.

00:00:33.440 Because increasingly, what we see from the legacy media is not news.

00:00:37.780 It's not reporting in the traditional sense of reporting the news.

00:00:41.300 People think when it comes to news, you can kind of vaguely split it into two different sections.

00:00:45.940 You have fact-based news, so just reporting, and then you have opinion-based news, so opinion columns, analysis pieces, opinion shows.

00:00:55.580 And that it's sort of a black and white distinction.

00:00:58.580 But what we see is this isn't true.

00:01:00.520 We see that the legacy media, particularly the media outlets that are funded by the government, the ones that take money from the federal government, not just the CBC.

00:01:09.140 The CBC is, of course, the biggest outlet that takes money from the federal government.

00:01:12.580 But we see that the Trudeau government has spread those funds across particularly newspapers.

00:01:19.520 Newspapers are now also funded in part or subsidized by the Trudeau government.

00:01:23.600 And what we see from these legacy news outlets, these publicly funded news outlets, is that the reporting looks less and less like straight journalism, like straight reporting, unbiased, fact-based.

00:01:34.800 And what it looks like now is more like an advocacy campaign to achieve the government's objective.

00:01:40.900 And I'm going to demonstrate that today with this topic of little kids and vaccines.

00:01:45.600 I'm going to show you the way that this issue has been portrayed by the media and juxtapose that with the facts, with the pure facts that we have on little kids when it comes to COVID.

00:01:55.980 And then from there, you can make up your own mind.

00:01:57.640 You can make up your mind for yourself, whether you think it is a good idea for little kids to get vaccinated.

00:02:01.900 You'll have all of the reasons for as well as the reasons against and compare that to someone who just watches legacy media, just consumes the news through the legacy outlets.

00:02:10.860 And how, by contrast, they're not well-equipped to make the decision because they're only hearing one side of the story.

00:02:16.680 And I think when it comes to the health of little kids, of little kids who can't really make the decision for themselves, they have to rely on their parents to make these decisions for them.

00:02:24.260 It's just so important that you have all the facts, that you're armed with the facts so that you can make a good decision.

00:02:30.240 So do little kids need the COVID vaccine?

00:02:32.780 So last Friday, we finally got the announcement, much anticipated announcement, that little kids, kids aged 5 to 11, would now be eligible for the vaccine.

00:02:40.980 So Canada announced the approval of the Pfizer vaccine for kids aged 5 to 11 on Friday, November 19th.

00:02:47.100 And so this week, the first doses were being administered to little kids across the country.

00:02:51.520 We knew this was coming.

00:02:52.460 It was anticipated.

00:02:53.360 The U.S. approved the vaccine for this age group two weeks ago.

00:02:57.460 And just this week, Europe has also approved this vaccine.

00:03:00.640 So first, I'm going to start by showing this clip from the CBC.

00:03:03.660 This is how the CBC reported this news that little kids will now be eligible for the vaccine.

00:03:08.240 Keep in mind, this isn't opinion journalism.

00:03:09.980 This is straight news.

00:03:11.200 This is the straight news.

00:03:12.160 And these are the facts that the CBC gives the viewer about the vaccine.

00:03:16.520 So let's play this report.

00:03:17.760 And I'll just preface saying it's a two-minute report.

00:03:19.520 I'm going to play the whole thing.

00:03:20.340 And what you see is voice after voice after voice advocating for the vaccine.

00:03:25.520 So it starts with a parent saying, finally, I can't wait to vaccinate my kid.

00:03:29.040 We hear the overlay of the reporter's voice talking about how the little kids are the most likely to be infected.

00:03:35.060 And also lead to the end of the lockdowns and the pandemics and the restrictions.

00:03:38.020 Something that we've heard many, many times before.

00:03:40.520 And yet, here we are still living in a COVID world with restrictions and lockdowns.

00:03:46.200 Then we hear from a volunteer activist whose job it is to go from door to door to try to convince parents to get their children vaccinated.

00:03:54.260 So we hear right off the bat three pro-vaccine voices.

00:03:57.140 And then followed by a series of public health officials, government officials, basically just telling you to get vaccinated.

00:04:04.260 So not a lot of variation in opinion.

00:04:07.240 We basically just hear all the reasons why you must vaccinate your kids.

00:04:11.260 Let's play this report.

00:04:14.120 They're among the millions of young Canadians who, as of today, are eligible to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.

00:04:21.120 Thank goodness.

00:04:21.780 They have taken long enough to approve it.

00:04:24.800 I can't wait.

00:04:27.260 The timing of the approval is critical.

00:04:29.680 Kids under 12 are testing positive more than any other age group.

00:04:33.920 Vaccination reduces their chances of getting sick and infecting others more susceptible to severe illness, a risk that's kept families apart.

00:04:43.000 I don't have any family in Canada and my children haven't seen any of their cousins.

00:04:47.740 They haven't seen my grandmother.

00:04:49.020 Health Canada confirms in a clinical trial the Pfizer vaccine was over 90% effective at preventing COVID-19 in children between 5 and 11.

00:04:59.200 The department has determined that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the potential risks.

00:05:03.860 Kids could begin getting their shots in just a few days.

00:05:06.980 Canada will begin receiving doses Sunday with all the 2.9 million doses received by the end of next week.

00:05:14.780 That's enough doses to offer a first shot to all eligible children in this country.

00:05:21.720 Now comes the delicate job of persuading parents who are still unsure.

00:05:26.960 In one of Toronto's least vaccinated neighbourhoods, public health volunteers encounter questions and hesitation.

00:05:33.640 They're concerned about if it's kind of painful or if they get fever or something or how safe it is.

00:05:42.100 They're also reminding parents this could help children return to normal.

00:05:46.660 We're going to have less outbreaks, less school closures or classroom closures and that will give a bit of stability for kids because a lot of kids in the past two years haven't had it.

00:05:56.880 The National Advisory Committee on Immunization recommends extending the interval between the two pediatric doses to eight weeks from Pfizer's recommended three weeks, which means children wouldn't be fully vaccinated until the new year.

00:06:11.160 Vic Adopia, CBC News, Toronto.

00:06:13.760 I mean, it's basically an infomercial for the vaccine.

00:06:16.420 And so if you were just a casual viewer of the CBC, not a skeptical minded person, just someone who says, OK, I turn on the CBC, I trust them to get my news, you would be under the impression that it was a unanimous decision, that every health expert out there agreed that children need to be vaccinated.

00:06:33.160 Children are at great, great risk.

00:06:34.980 COVID is very dangerous for little kids and therefore it is your obligation to your child as well as to society, the greater society, to get your children vaccinated.

00:06:43.500 But wait a minute, I want to pause and just say that that is not the case.

00:06:47.320 That is not the case.

00:06:48.280 It is not true that every health expert out there unanimously agrees that little kids must get vaccinated.

00:06:54.560 It is still an issue of contention and it is a moral decision.

00:06:57.760 It is up to each individual parent to determine what is best for their own child.

00:07:02.400 And doing some great reporting on this topic is my colleague Anthony Fury and he has an excellent Twitter thread that I'm basically going to read in its entirety here talking about how, no, it isn't unanimous.

00:07:13.000 So here is Anthony Fury saying this, Canadian parents would be well advised to read what the NACI release on kids vaccines actually says.

00:07:21.420 NACI, by the way, is the National Advisory Committee on Immunization.

00:07:24.880 You saw at the end of the CBC report, they're the ones who recommended a further gap between the two vaccine doses in contrast to what Pfizer recommends.

00:07:33.040 So this is the Canadian Advisory Board.

00:07:35.180 And so Anthony has gotten his information straight from them.

00:07:38.200 So one more time, he says, Canadian parents would be well advised to read what the NACI release on kids vaccines actually says.

00:07:43.460 It is far less of a ring endorsement than many would have you believe.

00:07:47.860 So again, this comes from the Canadian authority.

00:07:51.300 All those people who say trust the science, trust the experts.

00:07:53.620 These are the experts.

00:07:54.660 This is the science, the National Advisory Committee on Immunization.

00:07:57.500 And so here they say, it is essential that children age 5 to 11 and their parents are supported and respected in their decision regarded COVID-19 vaccines for their children, whatever decision they make, and are not stigmatized for accepting or not accepting the vaccine offer.

00:08:14.600 Wow.

00:08:15.180 You didn't hear anything like that in that CBC report.

00:08:17.820 Let's go on.

00:08:18.300 It says, it is not justified to vaccinate children only to benefit others.

00:08:23.580 The overall safety and effectiveness data are limited for children.

00:08:28.240 It is not justified to vaccinate children only to benefit others.

00:08:31.860 Isn't that interesting?

00:08:32.880 The NACI says right here, it is not justified to vaccinate children only to benefit others.

00:08:37.200 Go back to that CBC report.

00:08:38.460 And you heard the narrator say, the reporter say, that the purpose of vaccinating little kids is twofold, one, to protect them, and two, to protect the people who they may infect.

00:08:48.440 So little kids get COVID a lot and they could pass it on to a sick relative and it could prevent them from seeing their relatives.

00:08:55.580 We saw that parent complaining about how she hadn't been able to leave the country, presumably, and go visit her relatives.

00:09:00.440 So she would not just vaccinate her child to protect her child, she would vaccinate her child to protect people around her and to enable her to do the things that she wants to do. 0.96

00:09:08.880 So in some ways, it's sort of like sacrificing a little kid to benefit others.

00:09:13.540 And here, the NACI says it is not justified to vaccinate children for that reason.

00:09:19.480 Interesting stuff, stuff that you are not seeing reported by the legacy media.

00:09:23.080 I'll keep going.

00:09:23.600 It says, the overall safety and effectiveness data are limited for children.

00:09:27.300 Given the short-term uncertainties surrounding pediatric vaccination at this time, children and their parents or guardians should be supported and respected in their decision.

00:09:36.460 So we're learning there's still short-term uncertainties regarding this vaccine and that we shouldn't be vaccinating little kids to benefit others.

00:09:43.260 Interesting stuff, stuff that you don't hear or read about in the legacy media.

00:09:47.140 Anthony goes on to say, I don't think most Canadians are aware that there were similar cautionary notes

00:09:52.860 surrounded by the FDA committee and even Pfizer itself as they break down here.

00:09:57.580 Any links to a column Europe for the Sun saying, more nuance is needed around the kids' vaccination decision.

00:10:03.180 He goes on to say, anyway, give the NACI document a read yourself.

00:10:07.100 And they don't explicitly say it because unlike the Ontario Science Table, which is a group of doctors that advise Doug Ford, Ontario Premier Doug Ford,

00:10:14.280 and as we know, they're very, very political, so political that one guy left the table to go run for the Liberals.

00:10:19.700 Regardless, he makes a point that unlike the Ontario Science Table, NACI is far too professional to blur science with policy advocacy.

00:10:28.300 So these guys are just showing science.

00:10:30.320 They're not saying one thing or another with regards to what they recommend and what they advocate with regards to policy.

00:10:35.620 But they clearly, they clearly don't support vaccine mandates or passports for 5 to 11 year olds.

00:10:40.980 So, wow. So here we have a group of scientists, a group of experts saying that there are short-term uncertainties when it comes to this vaccination,

00:10:49.200 saying that the overall safety and effectiveness data are limited for children, so we don't actually know,

00:10:54.800 and saying that either way, it's up to the parents and neither should be stigmatized.

00:10:58.200 Neither should be stigmatized.

00:10:59.260 So, in other words, to all the journalists out there and all the politicians out there,

00:11:02.460 what they're basically saying is don't fearmonger when it comes to little kids.

00:11:05.520 Let parents make their own decisions.

00:11:07.220 Don't scapegoat the unvaccinated as if that's the root of all of our problems.

00:11:11.460 And basically, don't pass judgment.

00:11:13.540 It's up to the parents whether they choose to vaccinate or not vaccinate.

00:11:16.840 Very, very different tone and information than what we saw in that CBC report,

00:11:21.960 which, again, was much more like an infomercial for the vaccine than anything else.

00:11:26.460 And, of course, CBC is not alone.

00:11:29.060 So, here we have a report from CTV when the vaccines first became available.

00:11:33.640 It says, focus shifts to Ontario public health units as Health Canada approve kids' vaccines.

00:11:39.040 So, here we have, it says,

00:11:40.480 Toronto health units encouraged some of Ontario's youngest residents to channel their inner superheroes Friday

00:11:45.740 as they prepared to vaccinate kids against COVID-19 after Pfizer's vaccine was approved for children aged 5 to 11.

00:11:51.660 And it goes on, the superhero theme employed by Toronto, Halton, Chatham-Kent public health units, among others,

00:11:58.040 is a child-friendly way public health units are trying to get kids invested in vaccination.

00:12:02.500 So, in other words, kind of like propaganda, you know, make it seem like your kid's a superhero,

00:12:06.580 that they're going there to save society, even though the benefits for them aren't exactly clear.

00:12:10.540 And, basically, the reason we're getting kids to be vaccinated is to protect other people.

00:12:14.920 Not to protect kids, but to protect other people.

00:12:17.540 And so, this whole idea of a superhero, again, it is propaganda.

00:12:21.320 And it's kind of telling, because the idea that we're telling little kids is, like,

00:12:24.980 sacrifice yourself for the greater good.

00:12:26.880 That's basically the message we're being told.

00:12:28.580 And, of course, CTV chooses to highlight two parents.

00:12:30.980 And, lo and behold, surprise, surprise, they both are very, very pro-vax for little kids.

00:12:35.600 So, here it says Toronto mom, Lisa Dorning, said she's been obsessively checking the news

00:12:40.660 to hear when her 11-year-old son could get vaccinated.

00:12:43.380 So, Friday felt like a huge relief.

00:12:45.360 So, another parent, Parent Smeski, who has a daughter that's turning five in January,

00:12:49.300 so not even eligible for the vaccine, not even old enough, four-year-old little kid.

00:12:53.380 And this woman is already ecstatic that soon she will be able to get her little, young child vaccinated.

00:12:58.760 So, she says that she's feeling that acutely.

00:13:01.180 She's resisted signing her daughter up for extracurricular activities, such as skating lessons.

00:13:04.840 Until now.

00:13:06.000 But, she said that she'll be more comfortable doing so once her daughter gets her shots.

00:13:09.960 Smeski also noted that getting her older child vaccinated will help keep her 20-month-old daughter safe from the virus.

00:13:16.960 So, again, two examples.

00:13:18.140 Two people that are very pro-health.

00:13:19.800 This is supposed to be objective, fair journalism, only showing one side.

00:13:24.520 Is there any surprise?

00:13:25.740 It keeps going.

00:13:26.560 We have a report from the Toronto Star.

00:13:28.280 It says, Health Canada has approved the Pfizer-COVID vaccine for kids.

00:13:31.160 Here's what you need to know.

00:13:32.480 So, and then this is how they describe it because they have no shame.

00:13:36.780 So, here they say, not only will the arrival of doses be met with jubilation for many parents who want protection for their children,

00:13:43.380 there'll be an important step towards ending the pandemic for everyone.

00:13:46.260 So, we're supposed to believe that parents were just jubilated about the idea of getting their little kids vaccinated.

00:13:50.580 Yeah, sure, there's probably a portion of the society that are feeling super excited.

00:13:55.120 But the way that they write this, it makes it seem like it's a universal thing, that it's beyond debate, beyond discussion,

00:14:00.220 whether or not we should actually be vaccinating little kids.

00:14:02.480 And the idea is just jubilation from parents.

00:14:05.460 And then, of course, they put in that second note there.

00:14:08.280 It's an important step towards ending the pandemic, hinting towards this idea that it's not really just to protect little kids,

00:14:13.720 but it's to protect everyone.

00:14:15.380 And, again, this is sort of waving carrot that they have, this goalpost,

00:14:18.440 that if we just get everyone vaccinated, the pandemic will be over.

00:14:21.640 But we know that's not true.

00:14:22.620 We were told that if we get vaccinated, we won't have to wear masks anymore, we'll be able to go back to normal.

00:14:27.220 That, of course, was a lie.

00:14:28.620 We were told that once a certain percentage of the society was vaccinated, that everything would go back to normal.

00:14:33.820 That's not true.

00:14:34.460 And now they're saying all you have to do is vaccinate your little kids and we will end this pandemic.

00:14:38.620 I don't believe, I don't believe them.

00:14:40.740 I don't believe them.

00:14:41.380 They've said it enough and it's just not true.

00:14:44.080 The Toronto Star piece goes on to say,

00:14:46.220 while children are at a lower risk for serious complications of COVID-19, they're not without risk.

00:14:51.440 There is a direct benefit to children who get vaccinated as some do end up with severe versions of the illness,

00:14:57.500 said Dr. Stephen Freeman, a Calgary-based pediatric emergency doctor,

00:15:01.060 who has led multiple studies on the impact of COVID on kids internationally and in Canada.

00:15:05.800 One Canadian study suggests that one in five kids who are admitted to a hospital with COVID end up in intensive care.

00:15:11.820 So, okay, so we're hearing from a doctor here who says that there is benefit for kids and they're using really vague language here.

00:15:18.260 So it says that some do end up with severe versions of the illness and some end up in intensive care.

00:15:25.040 Here it says a study suggested one in five children who is admitted to the hospital with COVID end up in intensive care.

00:15:29.860 So, again, that's designed to make you feel afraid, to make you feel nervous, to make you think that kids are at a great risk.

00:15:36.160 But it, of course, ignores so much context, so much greater information.

00:15:39.880 For instance, we know that the hospitalization rate for children is very low.

00:15:43.700 And even of the kids who get admitted to a hospital with COVID,

00:15:46.940 the overwhelming majority of those cases are not individuals who are admitted because of COVID.

00:15:52.220 They're admitted for other reasons and then they're tested and it turns out they had COVID, but they didn't even know about it.

00:15:56.700 And so they're saying of the kids who get admitted to the hospital, those are the ones that end up in acute care.

00:16:02.240 Well, of course, because they're taken to hospital because of the disease.

00:16:05.680 So it kind of makes sense.

00:16:07.040 And again, when you hear this one in five get admitted, you think that the child might be at risk, one in five kids.

00:16:12.840 But the reality is that the number of kids that go to the hospital with COVID is like one in thousands or one in tens of thousands.

00:16:19.840 So, again, the data isn't being presented in a factual way.

00:16:23.580 And why don't we pause? Let's pause right now and go through the actual numbers with kids in COVID.

00:16:28.580 Because I think it's so important, again, for parents to be armed with the facts.

00:16:32.460 So the following figures all come from Health Canada's comprehensive database on COVID-19.

00:16:37.000 So dating back to the very beginning of the pandemic, early 2020, there have been a total of 1.68 million cases of COVID in Canada and about 29,000 deaths.

00:16:46.940 That's in all age groups, in all of Canada, in basically the last two years, almost two years now.

00:16:52.360 Those are the total numbers.

00:16:54.000 So of that 1.7 million COVID cases to date, the most infected age group are people under 20.

00:17:00.020 That is true.

00:17:00.900 There have been approximately 350,000 cases in this age group, making up 21% of all cases.

00:17:07.220 So kids, teenagers, people under the age of 20 are the most likely to get COVID.

00:17:12.240 However, they're also the least likely to be hospitalized.

00:17:15.640 So despite having the highest numbers of COVID cases, Canadians aged 0 to 19 experienced lowest hospitalization rate, only 2% of hospitalizations.

00:17:24.720 So of all the people who've gone to the hospital, only 2% were from that age group, from that 0 to 20 age group.

00:17:30.500 Compare that to my age group.

00:17:31.460 I'm in my 30s.

00:17:32.320 So age 30 to 39 have been 7.5% of all hospitalizations.

00:17:36.520 My mom's age group, 60 to 69.

00:17:38.820 18% of all hospitalizations have been in that age group.

00:17:41.360 And look at my grandmother's age bracket, over 80, 25% of all COVID hospitalizations have been people in their 80s.

00:17:48.000 So to go back to kids, of the 350,000 cases we've had in Canada, for those people under the age of 20, only 1,800 have been hospitalized.

00:17:56.860 Only 1,800 out of all those 350,000 cases.

00:18:00.140 And as my colleague Anthony Fury reported, that only 40% of those 1,800 cases, so only about less than, what, 800 cases, have been because of COVID.

00:18:10.200 The other ones have been someone, they break their arm, they have a bloody nose, something happens, they go to the hospital, and then they're tested, and it turns out that they have COVID.

00:18:17.520 So it's not like they're hospitalized because of COVID.

00:18:19.720 They're hospitalized, and then they just happen to have asymptomatic COVID.

00:18:23.320 And so, again, the numbers are so important because they show you the context.

00:18:28.080 So since the start of the pandemic, so we're almost at two years now, the two-year death rate for children under the age of 20.

00:18:34.620 So teenagers and kids in all of Canada, in the past two years, there have only been 17 deaths, 17, 17 deaths.

00:18:42.800 That makes up 0.1% of all COVID deaths in Canada.

00:18:45.480 That means that the COVID case fatality rate, the number of people who die per case in Canada for anyone under the age of 20, is 0.002%.

00:18:55.100 0.002%.

00:18:56.100 That is a lower death rate, by the way, than the seasonal flu.

00:18:59.440 So that's what we're talking about.

00:19:00.980 And if you isolate it, when I was looking at the numbers, it was only showing me vaguely under 20.

00:19:06.260 It didn't break them down.

00:19:07.460 Our friends over at Black Locks have a report that they did break it down into an even smaller age group.

00:19:13.200 And they found that there have been six deaths, six deaths in all of Canada in that younger age bracket.

00:19:19.340 So according to this Black Locks report, it says that in Canada, children under the age of 16, there are over 6 million of them.

00:19:25.040 Over 6 million Canadians under the age of 15.

00:19:27.300 A total of 171,000 of those children have been infected with COVID.

00:19:31.340 So about 3% of everyone under the age of 15 has had COVID.

00:19:36.240 A total of 780 of those were hospitalized.

00:19:38.800 So the hospitalization rate is 0.01%.

00:19:42.180 And of those who died, 6.

00:19:44.540 We've had 6 children under the age of 14 die from COVID.

00:19:48.240 6.

00:19:48.880 6.

00:19:49.440 So again, 6 children.

00:19:51.040 In a country of 38 million, in a total age bracket of over 6 million people, we've had 6 deaths.

00:19:58.180 So don't you think that that information might be relevant to the Canadian public?

00:20:01.540 Don't you think that maybe some of these news reports should have included all of that context?

00:20:05.500 Instead of cherry-picking the most scary statistics, like 1 in 5 of the people hospitalized end up in intensive care,

00:20:12.320 wouldn't it be more relevant for parents to know that only 0.01% of those who get COVID end up in the hospital?

00:20:19.540 780 in the entire country.

00:20:21.460 And of those, only 6 children have died from COVID.

00:20:24.720 We don't know what other comorbidities they had.

00:20:26.900 We don't know what else may have led to the COVID death.

00:20:29.440 But again, wouldn't you think that some of this information would be relevant to the Canadian public?

00:20:33.600 We here at True North do think that's relevant.

00:20:35.540 We think that you need to know all of the information so that you can make an informed decision.

00:20:40.000 Whereas the legacy media, they just don't think that.

00:20:42.400 They don't think that you need to know.

00:20:43.480 They don't think that it is important to give you all of the statistics, all of the facts,

00:20:47.160 because they're not news agencies.

00:20:48.480 They're not there to present the information in an unbiased way.

00:20:51.220 They're activists.

00:20:51.980 They're activists.

00:20:52.680 They're running infomercials.

00:20:53.740 They're pro-vaccine.

00:20:54.640 They're pro-Trudeau government.

00:20:55.500 And it is all incredibly obvious by the way that they are reporting on children and vaccines.

00:21:00.620 Here at the Candace Malcolm Show, we think that you should make your own decision.

00:21:03.160 And I'll just say, full disclosure, I am vaccinated.

00:21:05.620 I've had two vaccine doses against COVID.

00:21:07.920 I thought it was a good idea for me and my family.

00:21:10.120 I wanted to get back to normal.

00:21:11.180 I wanted to be able to travel.

00:21:12.500 I decided to get the vaccines.

00:21:13.920 When it comes to my little kids, though, it's going to be a totally different equation.

00:21:17.620 I will just say that my kids are completely up to date when it comes to their vaccination schedules.

00:21:21.400 I am pro-vaccine.

00:21:22.580 I believe in vaccines for other diseases.

00:21:24.580 It just, when it comes to COVID, I haven't seen the evidence that would really prove to me

00:21:29.040 that I need to go out and get my little kids vaccinated.

00:21:32.460 But again, it's up to each and every Canadian, and we should respect the decision that everyone

00:21:36.360 makes one way or another.

00:21:38.020 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.

Juno News - November 25, 2021

Media in overdrive to advocate for vaccines in kids aged 5-11

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