Juno News - MPs invite convict to Parliament Hill

00:00:00.800 Yeah, so Alex, this is the first I'm hearing of anything to do with beluga whales.

00:00:04.260 I mean, what's going on?

00:00:06.140 Yeah, so they're set to euthanize 30 beluga whales.

00:00:08.580 Originally, the plan was to move them to China, I believe.

00:00:11.760 But there is a rule that Canada, the government of Canada passed, that says you cannot make

00:00:18.740 beluga whales or any whales like be circus performers, basically.

00:00:22.160 They can't be performing animals.

00:00:23.780 So that precluded their ability to send the belugas to China. 0.98

00:00:26.960 There was a plan to have a sanctuary in Nova Scotia, but apparently that's problematic

00:00:31.900 for other kinds of reasons.

00:00:33.320 A lot of NIMBYism, people don't want belugas in their backyard, which, fair enough. 1.00

00:00:37.780 I have no idea what that would be like.

00:00:41.500 Who's trying to euthanize these beluga whales? 0.98

00:00:43.720 Where are they?

00:00:44.360 They don't just have beluga whales just swimming around in the lake.

00:00:48.200 No, no, they were a part of a park called Marineland.

00:00:51.000 So they had these belugas there as performing animals for many, many years. 1.00

00:00:54.820 And I believe that the Marineland went bankrupt.

00:01:00.060 And so now we don't know what to do with these beluga whales.

00:01:02.780 I find that particularly absurd in a country like Canada, where it's not like we have a

00:01:06.280 lack of waterways, right?

00:01:08.180 Like, just put them somewhere.

00:01:10.360 Yeah, no, it's interesting you mention that.

00:01:12.360 When you think of a company going bankrupt, it's like usually the bank just seizes their

00:01:15.900 assets.

00:01:16.500 But I mean, what are they going to do with beluga whales, right?

00:01:18.880 Like, what do you think of an asset as like a house or a building, but you don't think

00:01:23.400 of living animals to be an asset in that sense, right?

00:01:27.660 Well, in this case, they're clearly a liability.

00:01:31.640 Nobody knows what to do with them.

00:01:33.640 I feel really bad.

00:01:34.760 I mean, beluga whales, I think, are really intelligent animals.

00:01:39.620 Yeah, and obviously, if they were like performing animals, you can't just toss them in the ocean.

00:01:44.700 They'd probably die pretty quick because they're domesticated, right?

00:01:48.880 Yeah.

00:01:49.400 Yeah, that's the concern.

00:01:50.800 But I think it's better to give them a chance than to not.

00:01:54.980 Yeah, I mean, at least let them try and live in the ocean, as opposed to if the alternative

00:01:59.540 is, of course, euthanizing them.

00:02:01.680 Do you know what happened to Free Willy?

00:02:04.600 No.

00:02:05.000 The whale from the movie?

00:02:07.100 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:07.740 I think his name is Kiko.

00:02:08.520 So he played Free Willy, and then a bunch of kids wanted him to be free because he was

00:02:13.480 a whale in captivity.

00:02:14.420 So they did.

00:02:14.940 They transported him for, I think it was Mexico City to Norway.

00:02:19.280 And then he couldn't adapt.

00:02:22.760 And what he actually did is so sad.

00:02:24.440 He started doing tricks for people, like fishermen and stuff.

00:02:28.400 He was doing tricks for them because the whales would not welcome him back into the pond.

00:02:32.180 But he wanted interaction.

00:02:35.520 So he started interacting with people.

00:02:37.900 Yeah, it is sad.

00:02:38.840 And it's like we were saying, the simple solution, you can't just put them back in the wild.

00:02:42.480 That's not really how it works.

00:02:43.940 You know, like, sorry.

00:02:45.360 You had to let them be in the wild from the beginning or kind of keep them domesticated,

00:02:51.320 right?

00:02:51.500 Yeah, but I also think if you love something, you should set it free.

00:02:55.080 Like, what do you think about the beluga whales?

00:02:57.920 I mean, I remember the whole Marineland situation.

00:03:00.200 So, I mean, I went to Marineland when I was a kid back, you know, I think in the early 2000s.

00:03:05.500 So I can remember faintly there being protests at the time about a very similar situation.

00:03:10.380 So I think that definitely we should let animals more free, for sure.

00:03:15.200 I mean, you know, whether they're in a zoo or if they're in an aquatic situation or any

00:03:19.100 other case.

00:03:20.300 The sad part about it is I think the animal, let's say the animal welfare spirit is dying

00:03:26.040 off a little bit.

00:03:27.000 I don't know if I think we're kind of a bit more taken by by the climate hysteria and

00:03:31.780 less to do with animal welfare because animal welfare, I guess, provides a little bit less

00:03:35.860 less industrial changes in interests or business interests, that is.

00:03:40.620 So I think that frankly, it's under underwhelming with the amount of coverage and the amount

00:03:45.480 of attention it gets.

00:03:46.400 I know this whole ostrich farm took the country's media frame a little bit for a small period 0.70

00:03:51.200 of time, primarily independent media leading the way, of course, as you know.

00:03:55.440 So I think it's interesting how maybe you could say one could say that the mainstream left

00:04:01.640 is a little bit on sleep on the wheel when it comes to animal welfare.

00:04:05.500 In some high profile cases, whether the whales, the ostriches or anywhere else, trees.

00:04:13.600 It's a good point, Waleed. 1.00

00:04:14.740 It's a lot easier to make money from climate hysteria than it is from animal welfare.

00:04:18.740 But we were talking about animal freedom here, and now we're going to kind of talk about

00:04:22.180 the antonym of that for our first story.

00:04:24.540 My name is Isaac Lamoureux, and I'm glad to be joined by my colleagues, Waleed Tamtam and

00:04:29.100 Alex Zoltan.

00:04:29.820 And let's hop into that first story here.

00:04:31.100 Yeah, so as I was kind of alluding to there, our first story, Alex, broke this as an exclusive,

00:04:41.620 but liberal MPs, liberal MPs from a committee were, I guess, inviting a convicted murderer

00:04:48.000 to come give them advice on bail reform.

00:04:51.100 So, yeah, I mean, that's it.

00:04:53.320 Now it just seems so crazy.

00:04:55.320 I mean, hey, at the same time, I guess everyone's welcome to a second chance if they serve their

00:05:03.280 time, right?

00:05:04.020 That's true.

00:05:04.760 I guess it's good that they're doing something with their lives.

00:05:06.860 If it is positive after all, was it a positive kind of happening there, Alex?

00:05:12.400 Like what actually happened?

00:05:14.180 Yeah, so I can kind of like give you an idea of how I came across this story.

00:05:17.320 So one of the really cool things that True North does is they do a division of labor,

00:05:22.140 essentially, right?

00:05:23.400 So a lot of us cover like a certain geographical area.

00:05:26.220 Some of us only cover one committee.

00:05:27.900 Some of us only cover one beat, you know, crime or immigration or whatever it happens to

00:05:32.660 be.

00:05:33.760 And so my beat was the justice committee.

00:05:36.640 So I Googled the witnesses because I thought maybe it'd be a good idea to like learn about

00:05:41.100 who these witnesses are so that I have some context for the things that they're saying.

00:05:45.200 And this was the second person I Googled, and she is a convicted murderer who is giving the 0.98

00:05:51.860 government advice on bail reform.

00:05:54.060 I should also note that after she was arrested for murdering this individual, Ross Hammond,

00:06:00.820 she was given bail in two weeks.

00:06:03.580 And then shortly after that was the suspect in another swarming attack.

00:06:06.860 So we have a convicted murderer and a repeat violent offender, alleged accused, giving the

00:06:14.600 government advice on bail reform.

00:06:17.520 I'll just leave it open to questions.

00:06:20.440 Yeah, no, it seems pretty fitting because it's like, hey, what should we do about bail

00:06:23.780 reform?

00:06:24.140 You are a repeat violent offender, the very people that everyone's complaining about.

00:06:28.360 Like, how do we fix it?

00:06:30.140 And I mean, in my opinion, a simple way to do that would be, of course, to abolish Bill

00:06:34.500 C-75, the Revolving Door Justice Act, more or less, that allows these people to get bail

00:06:40.060 immediately, essentially, as you said.

00:06:41.840 What was she in jail for two weeks before she got bailed?

00:06:44.140 This is a murderer?

00:06:45.000 Like, I mean, that's absolutely insane.

00:06:46.920 I mean, then she went to jail for like two years, maybe three years.

00:06:49.840 It's not exactly clear what the timeline is.

00:06:51.840 She went to a halfway house, was mostly free.

00:06:54.440 I mean, through her 12 years, she, so she was, if you're, if you're convicted of murder

00:06:58.180 in Canada, you get an automatic life sentence, even if it's second degree, but then they can

00:07:02.820 determine when you get parole.

00:07:04.400 So she had a life sentence with 12 years, um, being the amount of time that would elapse

00:07:09.240 until she got parole.

00:07:10.300 I think she kind of stretched it to the end.

00:07:12.260 I don't know exactly.

00:07:13.340 The parole board of Canada is not being very.

00:07:16.040 So when you say life sentence, just to be clarified, you mean that's 25 years in jail,

00:07:19.660 right?

00:07:20.900 No, no.

00:07:21.540 So a life sentence in Canada, um, with a maximum of 25 years until you're eligible for parole.

00:07:26.540 But in her case, she was given 12 years until she was eligible for parole.

00:07:30.440 She lost on multiple appeals.

00:07:32.700 Again, I mean, theoretically, anybody is innocent of a crime, right?

00:07:38.340 I mean, sure.

00:07:39.500 And everybody does deserve a second chance.

00:07:42.560 Fine.

00:07:43.100 But then that's how she should have been framed as a witness.

00:07:45.380 It should have been, well, you're somebody who went to prison, you know, was convicted of

00:07:48.640 a crime.

00:07:49.300 What was your experience like?

00:07:50.500 But that wasn't how she was presented as a witness.

00:07:52.940 She was presented as, well, this is the co-executive director from the, you know, Sally Howard

00:07:58.040 Society or whatever the hell it was.

00:08:00.360 And everybody just took it at face value.

00:08:02.020 And I mean, shame on everyone in that committee, as far as I'm concerned.

00:08:05.220 I mean, it seemed like nobody knew who, are they not Googling the witnesses?

00:08:08.400 I was going to ask Alex, because you said you went through the witness list, and this was

00:08:13.120 a second witness.

00:08:14.260 I mean, how unbelievable is that?

00:08:15.520 Like, it's not like you had to go through hundreds or thousands of people.

00:08:18.520 So do you think that the, I guess, the people who are coming to these committees are all,

00:08:24.360 like, are there many criminals among them?

00:08:26.400 Like, is that just how it is in Canada?

00:08:27.640 Everyone's a person out on bail?

00:08:29.720 Like, I mean, it's a ridiculous situation.

00:08:34.240 She, she, it's her second time.

00:08:36.820 She was a witness back in 2023.

00:08:38.600 So like two years went by and nobody noticed that we had a convicted murderer giving us

00:08:44.760 advice on bail law.

00:08:45.860 I mean, it almost makes sense kind of thing, right?

00:08:48.440 Like, like you wonder like how the criminal justice system could be this messed up.

00:08:52.560 But then you, you look up the witnesses who are advising committees on the legal changes

00:08:56.940 and it suddenly starts to make a little bit of sense.

00:08:59.900 But, um, yeah, I, I, sorry, what was your question again?

00:09:03.180 I, no, I'm just, I was just wondering if you think, like, like I said, this was the second

00:09:08.060 witness, like, are, are, are, are we in just such a place in Canada where everyone's

00:09:11.900 out on bail and they're just everyone, whoever you invite is, is a bail, uh, out on bail

00:09:16.840 criminal, like, well, the third lady I looked up so that like the first one was 0.98

00:09:21.760 Donkers and she runs like the Canadian Black Lawyers Association or something like that. 0.81

00:09:28.060 She was nice enough.

00:09:30.400 I mean, very woke ideas about like DEI and about, you know, pushing racial defense in 0.52

00:09:37.200 court and blah, blah, blah, but reasonable, you know, she's black and she wants to defend 1.00

00:09:43.280 black people in court.

00:09:44.640 Fine.

00:09:45.980 The second lady was the murderer. 1.00

00:09:47.700 And then the third lady that her name is Dr. Nicole Myers, and she has received a whole 0.72

00:09:53.680 bunch of funding from the government, um, upwards of close to $3 million to publish stuff about

00:10:00.840 how bail is better than jail.

00:10:04.100 And then she's called as a witness.

00:10:06.260 Well, obviously there's a conflict of interest there.

00:10:08.480 I mean, her entire career is hinged on her saying one thing, you know, she's not going 0.98

00:10:15.560 to bite the hand that feeds it.

00:10:16.580 A taxpayer funded bail advocate.

00:10:18.320 That's a new title.

00:10:20.300 You think maybe they can get into politics for anything at this point?

00:10:22.740 I mean, if they don't vet them as hard as they should, then perhaps one of these people

00:10:26.120 will get into politics and propose a, uh, a bail not jail act.

00:10:29.920 And that will be the end of the story as far as public security and safety in Canada.

00:10:33.380 Well, I mean, the interesting thing, okay, so it's pretty nuanced.

00:10:37.620 So some of these witnesses have made a good point that 80% in Ontario and around 70% in

00:10:42.960 Canada of people in jail are technically awaiting trial.

00:10:46.740 That is very high actually compared to the rest of the industrialized world.

00:10:50.900 It's actually the highest anywhere.

00:10:52.380 The only close country comparatively speaking in the developed world is the United States,

00:10:56.280 which is almost exactly the same.

00:10:58.140 They're, they're basically at 70% as well.

00:11:00.320 So there, there's a lot of things going on here at once, right?

00:11:03.260 Like these, these witnesses who say there are too many people awaiting trial because we

00:11:08.000 have a very sluggish, I guess you could say criminal justice system.

00:11:12.560 They're, they're, they're, they're correct.

00:11:14.940 That, that is technically accurate.

00:11:19.820 Yeah.

00:11:20.360 This lady, like she, she was literally convicted of murder, so she doesn't have that complaint 1.00

00:11:24.980 available to her.

00:11:26.140 Walid, I wanted to ask you something similar on the, not, not as specifically for this

00:11:31.460 story, but just on the bail file, because we've of course kind of seen Carney differ in

00:11:37.080 his posture and we don't really know.

00:11:38.500 Well, I don't know personally whether you, whether you think he might actually do something

00:11:43.180 when it comes to bail reform or just talk about it, because do you, do you think, you

00:11:47.420 know, you've been out in Ottawa, obviously, and you're, you're seeing what's happening.

00:11:50.500 Do you think that Carney will actually fix Canada's broken bail system in, in the near

00:11:55.400 future?

00:11:56.940 In the near future, no, because I think right now his priority is on elsewhere, frankly,

00:12:01.920 it's the budget.

00:12:02.860 And I don't think he actually needs conservative support.

00:12:05.800 If conservative support was, you know, was, it was the only way to keeping his government

00:12:11.000 alive, then perhaps that could be something on the table.

00:12:13.780 I know we've talked about in past shows how the liberals may and are perhaps possibly

00:12:19.140 using a bail reform as a negotiation card when it comes to trying to deal with the conservative

00:12:23.700 opposition in case of any future negotiations.

00:12:27.100 But I would say that soon would be a tough ask given what their stance is today.

00:12:32.880 And that is that they are not looking at exactly changing.

00:12:36.520 Well, they are, they have proposed something.

00:12:38.920 I mean, you saw the announcements last week with RCMP funding, with the similar restrictions

00:12:44.280 on concurrent sentencing, depending on, of course, if that person committed a certain

00:12:49.580 violent crime.

00:12:50.740 It's just that what you really need is you need a complete repeal, like a bill, like Bill

00:12:56.480 C-75 from back in 2019 that set this philosophy into power, which is that bail is something that

00:13:05.060 should be seeked as soon as possible and as much as possible.

00:13:09.640 If that is the philosophy that is being imposed on judges vis-a-vis this law, then that is not

00:13:14.900 going to, it's going to be very hard to change without removing.

00:13:17.840 Some things require reform.

00:13:19.920 Other things require entire repeal.

00:13:21.800 Same thing can be said that the carbon taxes, you and I have discussed before as well.

00:13:25.480 So I guess the conservative gap, wherever the liberals are today, is significant enough

00:13:29.840 to keep people like Larry Block, who I've spoken to in an interview about this very topic

00:13:34.760 as well, unsatisfied with the government's position.

00:13:37.220 So I definitely don't think there will be anything convincing enough, soon enough, for

00:13:41.540 now.

00:13:42.600 Well, yeah, no, it's funny you mentioned that because I was obviously paying attention to

00:13:46.440 the municipal elections in Alberta last week, notably Edmonton and Calgary.

00:13:50.420 Some of the mayor candidates are talking about bail reform.

00:13:52.660 I'm like, why are you talking about bail reform as a municipality, a mayor, like you could do

00:13:58.340 anything.

00:13:59.140 Even the premiers wrote to Carney saying, please reform bail, and he didn't do anything.

00:14:03.740 So the premiers can't do anything.

00:14:05.220 The mayors definitely can't do anything.

00:14:06.860 But I just thought I'd mention that because that happened last week.

00:14:09.340 I'm like, man, wait till bail reform.

00:14:10.960 That's going to be, you're going to focus on bail reform as a mayor?

00:14:13.280 I mean, what a joke.

00:14:13.720 Well, the crazy thing about this, this justice committee is that most of the witnesses have

00:14:17.740 said that it is too hard to get bail.

00:14:21.460 What?

00:14:22.420 Too hard?

00:14:23.400 Too hard to get bail.

00:14:25.320 Now, that's a really...

00:14:26.460 I've already got it in two weeks.

00:14:28.140 Yeah, I mean, that's a funny example.

00:14:30.740 Of course, and there are some people that have been in court.

00:14:34.140 I recorded one guy last year who's been in court 20 times, I think, you know, which is

00:14:38.540 why a lot of people are in favor of these three strikes are out type legislation, which makes

00:14:42.400 sense to me, at least.

00:14:44.240 But yeah, man, it's crazy.

00:14:46.360 Most of these people said that they think bail is too hard to get.

00:14:49.480 To give you some context, in Canada, you are nine times more likely, like, just no context,

00:14:55.440 nine times more likely to get bail than you are to not get bail.

00:15:00.160 Yeah, that sounds real tough, eh?

00:15:02.380 And you're more than twice, you're more than half as likely to get bail if you are a previous 0.86

00:15:09.900 violent offender.

00:15:11.100 You still have more than a 50% chance of getting bail, even if you are a repeat violent offender.

00:15:15.500 That's just in B.C.

00:15:16.320 I don't know about the rest of the country, because Canada does not track bail data.

00:15:22.200 Unfortunate.

00:15:24.000 Yeah, anyways, we can move on to our next story, because we could talk about, trust me,

00:15:28.040 and we could talk about any of these stories for, like, hours at a time, especially bail.

00:15:32.020 But, Walid, when you were talking there, you did say the word budget, which got me all excited,

00:15:36.280 because now we get to talk about the budget for our next story.

00:15:38.600 Because, of course, Carney, with some ridiculous claims this week, ridiculous is an interesting

00:15:45.780 word, but I mean, he's really, in my opinion, manipulating the budget at least, because he

00:15:52.580 said he's going to balance Canada's operating budget within three years, but that's the

00:15:56.900 key word, operating budget, not budget.

00:15:59.360 Mark Carney is in no way, shape, or form going to balance the budget in three years, because

00:16:03.900 we, of course, remember a few months ago, it was Conservative MP Michael Cooper who actually

00:16:08.980 accused Mark Carney of cooking the books, because he's making up these mysterious, magical operating

00:16:14.800 budget, and this other side of the budget where he can just move things around and say

00:16:19.900 it's balanced when it's really not, because he has two sides of the budget, and I mean, it's

00:16:27.220 pretty much an illusion by creating a balanced budget.

00:16:30.620 So to say that he's balancing one side in three years is really irrelevant, because as

00:16:35.580 Cooper explained a few months ago, the operating budget would apparently cover day-to-day government

00:16:40.180 spending, and the capital budget would cover so-called investment, which could basically

00:16:46.120 be anything, which is what Cooper said, that it wasn't limited to capital spending like

00:16:50.660 infrastructure, but it also covers incentives like private sector capital or things that raise

00:16:55.000 private sector productivity.

00:16:57.720 So really, Carney can just manipulate this budget however he wants, and we know the budget

00:17:03.380 is allegedly, and it keeps getting pushed back, so that's why I say allegedly.

00:17:06.320 Why is it taking so long?

00:17:07.680 Coming on November 4th.

00:17:08.680 Why is this budget taking so long?

00:17:09.680 Yeah.

00:17:10.680 So...

00:17:11.680 Chris Gere Freeland was the finance minister the last time they expected a budget.

00:17:14.800 Yeah, no, and her budget was so bad that she was forced to resign, but Carney's is like

00:17:18.660 four times as bad, so not really sure how that works, who's going to be the scapegoat.

00:17:23.200 But again, I don't really think there will have to be a scapegoat, because Carney can

00:17:26.700 just kind of make the budget look how he wants by essentially cooking the books, like Cooper

00:17:31.840 said.

00:17:32.900 And journalists like us at True North and tax specialists are going to have to spend days

00:17:38.140 going through these budgets and say, okay, here's the real deficit.

00:17:41.100 Here's the actual number that you need to care about.

00:17:43.400 Don't listen to what the government's saying to you, because I know they're going to say

00:17:46.080 some crazy things in the House of Commons that are about this and completely not in line

00:17:50.120 with reality, but of course we've seen reports already that the CD Howe Institute put out

00:17:55.020 that said the budget will likely come to $92 billion by 2025, 26, and a bunch of other

00:18:00.720 just shocking numbers that, I mean, again, we could spend all day going through.

00:18:04.440 But that's kind of the key here, guys, is Freeland resigned because the budget was so bad.

00:18:09.300 This budget is going to be likely way worse.

00:18:12.620 Trudeau, again, he doubled our debt alone in his tenure, and Carney's just going deeper,

00:18:17.600 deeper, and deeper, and worse, and worse, and worse.

00:18:19.720 So people, I mean, on the left have certainly tried to frame Carney as some sort of financial

00:18:26.620 mastermind, which anyone who pays any attention to what he's done in the past, especially in

00:18:30.640 the EU as a banker down there, knows that's nowhere near the case.

00:18:35.660 But I mean, yeah, no, I don't have to ask because it's just so crazy.

00:18:39.640 But yeah, do you think there'll be a lot of controversy, I guess, when this budget is

00:18:44.440 revealed on November 4th, and especially if the Liberals are trying to make some ludicrous

00:18:48.520 claims with balancing this side of the budget, when they're not, of course, telling the full

00:18:52.740 story through the full budget, because they're kind of just splitting up the numbers how they

00:18:56.920 see fit?

00:18:58.600 Isaac, I think so.

00:18:59.440 I think there'll definitely be a lot of controversy, and there already is right now,

00:19:01.820 as we're speaking.

00:19:02.480 I mean, back in May, the Fraser Institute did a study when they looked at the budget planned

00:19:05.940 by the Trudeau government, the last Trudeau government that was last year, and looking

00:19:09.860 at what Carney's plan, which, by the way, still included the three-year balancing of

00:19:13.840 the operating budget by 28-29, and it looks like that we're looking at a possible increase,

00:19:19.800 a forecasted increase of $93.4 billion more in deficits than compared to the Trudeau government's

00:19:26.980 last plan.

00:19:28.040 So again, this isn't like a real austerity in the sense of reducing what Trudeau had.

00:19:34.140 It's actually increasing more on, playing a very liberal tactic in the case of using

00:19:38.740 anything that builds an asset, so an asset or whatever creates an asset.

00:19:44.200 So it can include some of this new bureaucracy.

00:19:47.760 It can include some subsidies and all kinds of things that they're pouring big money into,

00:19:52.220 of course, because as you're seeing, these deficits are still huge.

00:19:55.880 So I would say the controversy remains that right now, as it has been since Carney is kind

00:20:02.720 of signaled to the Canadian public that deficits are looking to continue and probably even grow.

00:20:07.680 And to their credit, they've been somewhat transparent, rhetorically speaking.

00:20:11.920 At an earlier phase, even House Leader Steve McKinnon, he said it himself, you know, we're looking

00:20:18.320 at a bigger deficit this year.

00:20:20.060 So, and it's hard to imagine because, I mean, first of all, you have the splitting of the budgets,

00:20:24.780 which I don't think fools many people that are, you know, fiscally educated on how that,

00:20:29.600 what exactly that means.

00:20:30.960 But you're also looking at a situation where you have a decrease in revenue, a very expectable

00:20:35.920 decrease of revenue when you had, because looking where he was in April at the election, promising,

00:20:42.200 you know, better economic, better house management over the budget.

00:20:46.820 His tariffs regime, much of it has dropped.

00:20:49.980 He's not collecting taxes on American imports as he was before, to the same level, at least.

00:20:55.820 The digital service taxes, the DST was dropped with Trump's pressure.

00:21:00.480 That would be a possible draw of more revenue to the government.

00:21:03.880 That's gone too.

00:21:05.060 While the spending on the military has become ever more increased and ambitious, which again,

00:21:10.200 a lot of people are okay with that.

00:21:12.000 But how can you get anywhere better if those are the facts on paper?

00:21:18.140 I don't think it's possible.

00:21:20.160 Again, I have said though, in the title, I've seen the question marks, austerity incoming,

00:21:26.480 because that's where the appetite is.

00:21:27.940 I mean, he did mention some efficiencies, talk about 500 different points of red tape,

00:21:33.520 and then efficiencies that have to be dealt with in the next while.

00:21:36.600 I don't know exactly what those are, but I'm not surprised that there are that many

00:21:40.200 that they've already identified.

00:21:41.960 Maybe they're perhaps a bit more than what he's saying.

00:21:46.220 He's also talked about 15% cuts from spending at certain departments or looking for efficiencies.

00:21:52.600 In other words, he's looking to cut the bureaucracy to a certain level.

00:21:55.560 Where and how and how soon will be a big question that you have to see an answer to November 4th,

00:22:01.280 hopefully, when they actually do present their budget.

00:22:03.600 So again, we're looking at increased deficits overall.

00:22:06.840 If a school situation isn't getting any better,

00:22:08.500 and the government really isn't arguing that it will get better.

00:22:12.060 It's just simply playing the game of giving you this operational budget rhetoric and sounding better.

00:22:18.200 But in terms of the actual paper, it's getting worse.

00:22:20.920 So that's what Canadians need to know is language and rhetoric doesn't always reflect very well.

00:22:26.440 And on November 4th will be a great day to discover that because, look, budgets themselves are political.

00:22:31.440 We're all thinking about this as a technical detail document with a lot of important information.

00:22:35.540 What they show you, how much they show you, and where they show you in that big budget is entirely political.

00:22:42.780 I mean, if you were guys who had the true era of budgets, you would hear the words investment, investment in Canadian town, future.

00:22:50.300 You're looking at this as if this is a liberal party manifesto with a few graphs every once in a while, which are based entirely on government data.

00:22:58.680 So it's not like a completely economic document.

00:23:01.840 It is a political document selling the public and some stakeholders and donors on exactly where they're going to be throwing around cash.

00:23:09.220 What was the last tagline for the last budget?

00:23:13.960 Remember from Chrystia Freeland?

00:23:15.140 I think it was something like no generation left behind or some bullshit.

00:23:18.580 Yeah, that sounds like something she'd say.

00:23:22.100 Well, I'll tell you, Alex, what the last deficit was.

00:23:25.300 That's operating deficit.

00:23:26.780 Just that.

00:23:27.400 Well, the most recent annual operating deficit.

00:23:29.360 I mean, you know, the fiscal year ends in March, starts in April.

00:23:32.680 You guys are familiar with that.

00:23:33.600 That was $61.9 billion Canadian dollars on March 31st last year.

00:23:39.720 So he's talking about getting that balanced in three years.

00:23:42.420 That's that bad.

00:23:44.040 Three years.

00:23:44.920 And then you're looking at where the most of the money is in the capital budget, where he's looking to spend even more than usual.

00:23:51.020 So, again, the forecast this year can be somewhere like $70, $75 billion.

00:23:57.140 Well, I remember last year, too, I was chatting with Chris Sims and our friend Noah.

00:24:03.620 And we were all talking about the carbon tax, because at that time, Carney was saying, well, I'm going to get rid of the carbon tax.

00:24:08.340 And I remember thinking, like, well, I don't give a shit about the carbon tax, of course.

00:24:12.680 Like, if we get rid of the carbon tax, the world's not going to catch on fire, of course.

00:24:15.960 But where do you make up that revenue?

00:24:18.420 Well, they said from the start, which is not true, that it had to be revenue neutral.

00:24:22.540 Yeah, of course.

00:24:23.540 That was their claim.

00:24:26.500 Yeah, which we didn't believe.

00:24:27.780 And if we don't believe them, we must continue to not believe them, right?

00:24:30.540 I mean, and so where does that revenue come from?

00:24:33.140 I mean, it doesn't come from Noah, right?

00:24:37.060 No, but then you just raise the industrial carbon tax and no one complains.

00:24:40.100 But I did want to ask you something, Alex, because this is – I'll ask you a two-pronged question here.

00:24:44.700 So as it stands, the Liberals are three seats sort of short of a majority.

00:24:49.300 As we know, the budget is a vote of confidence by default.

00:24:54.540 So the budget has to pass or else we will be in an election.

00:24:57.740 So assuming all the Liberal MPs vote for the budget, they only need three more that could come from anywhere.

00:25:01.700 Bloc, Conservatives even, the NDP.

00:25:04.040 There's plenty of people to go around.

00:25:05.200 So first of all, whether you think the budget will pass.

00:25:07.660 And then next part of that question was, of course, we saw the last Liberal budget under Trudeau's tenure kind of be the nail in the coffin because it was so bad.

00:25:16.800 But as we well know, without a shadow of a doubt, this budget will be worse.

00:25:20.340 So I'm wondering whether you think even if the budget does pass, whether the Liberals will – whether they'll be able to gaslight themselves through it and basically just say it's the best thing ever when it's in reality not or whether it could actually eventually kind of turn the tides on them and result in an election in the future even if it doesn't when it actually comes to passing the bill.

00:25:40.880 No, this budget will go through for sure for several different reasons.

00:25:44.580 Number one, I mean, generally speaking, there's no appetite for an election, right?

00:25:48.720 So the Bloc aren't going to vote against it.

00:25:51.360 The NDP aren't going to vote against it.

00:25:52.760 The NDP are also in the midst of a leadership crisis.

00:25:55.380 So, you know, they really don't have any feet to stand on, so to speak.

00:26:00.760 And the Conservatives, yeah, they'll vote against it.

00:26:04.740 But I think everybody else will vote for the budget.

00:26:07.660 It will be – I think it will pass just fine.

00:26:09.320 Speaking of voting orientation, I think you guys have heard on the news some rumors around Conservative MPs crossing the floors.

00:26:16.620 I don't know if you guys have been following that story.

00:26:18.720 I'll tell you one thing on the record perhaps against the character of the show, but I think I have a feeling of one possible target if I have to put a Hollywood bet on it.

00:26:28.680 I think there was an MP, Joel Godin, he's a Quebec-area MP that said after Pierre won the leadership election that he found some great difference with him.

00:26:39.040 He describes himself more as a red Tory, progressive, Conservative kind of guy, which, again, exists in the party both provincially, on terms of the provincial affiliates, and, of course, at the federal level as well, depending on the region you are.

00:26:50.360 And Quebec is one of those regions where to be Conservative, you have to be a bit more Liberal in some cases.

00:26:55.100 So, I'm looking at that story with a bit of skepticism because, again, it's always going to be, you know, mainstream media going after Pierre and his team and his credibility.

00:27:05.860 I mean, I don't think there's a question at all if he's not going to win.

00:27:08.920 That leadership review in January is going to be a walk in the park, I think.

00:27:12.300 I just don't see any strong alliance around someone else that could take him down.

00:27:18.500 I mean, the strongest thing we saw in 2022 was Jean Charest and his cabal of Quebec loyalists that he had, basically, an entire Francophone branch of the party, plus a few red Tory's around the country.

00:27:29.380 You know who they are.

00:27:30.460 Once Patrick Ban dropped out, Patrick Ban's supporters went off to him, and that was 16% on the first ballot.

00:27:36.400 Right.

00:27:36.840 Very far off.

00:27:37.720 And that's Pierre with 68.5, I believe, and the rest split up with Lesley Lewis and Robin Beiber, who you know are more Pierre guys than they are Charest guys.

00:27:47.140 So, again, I don't see there's an appetite within the Conservative Party, and that's what matters the most.

00:27:51.260 You know, liberals don't have to like Pierre, and Pierre can still become the prime minister, and he can obviously retain the leadership position he has of the party because, again, party membership supports him.

00:28:02.340 The Conservative bloc supports him.

00:28:04.360 The Conservative bloc has grown significantly.

00:28:06.360 I mean, 41% of the election, that's phenomenal.

00:28:09.060 That's the majority of the territory, usually.

00:28:11.040 So, as soon as the conditions return back to normal, as soon as the NDP found perhaps some leadership.

00:28:15.540 Yeah, that's a good point, Waleed. 0.99

00:28:17.100 You'd want the NDP to be stronger if you were the Conservatives for an election because, of course, they generally lost the last election because the NDP were so weak.

00:28:24.140 So, the liberals took in all those voters, which is how they lost despite getting such good numbers, right?

00:28:30.220 But we can stick with the Conservatives for our next story in a way.

00:28:33.980 We'll move over to BC from the Federal Conservatives, but moving over to the BC Conservatives, because, again, Alex, you were all over this, I think.

00:28:41.960 The BC Conservative Party is in absolute turmoil, as we well know, and some of the board members are calling on the leader, John Rustad, to resign.

00:28:53.040 But, as far as I understand, Alex, he's saying he doesn't plan to do that despite, it looks like we talked about, or Waleed just talked about, perhaps there not being an appetite for Pierre to be replaced.

00:29:04.200 But there does seem to be quite an appetite in BC to replace John Rustad because, from my understanding, it seems like the Conservative Party is pretty strong, but their leadership just might not be strong as well, right?

00:29:15.580 Is that what's happening?

00:29:16.480 Oh, I don't know, man. BC politics is so different. It's just such a hodgepodge.

00:29:23.640 So, the BC Conservative Party is basically a patchwork version of what used to be the BC United Party, which used to be the Liberal Party.

00:29:34.820 So, BC has a very strange set of political, I don't even know how you would describe it, camps.

00:29:42.260 So, you tend to have, like, one group in the Lower Mainland that is very radically left, and then you have another camp that is a very wide tent of kind of libertarian hippies and, like, old farmers and basically Alberta people, you know, for lack of a better term.

00:30:00.760 Good people, yeah.

00:30:01.360 So, any party that, like, has to compete with these liberal radical leftists in the city has to have this giant tent, right, full of just crazy people, frankly.

00:30:13.120 I'm not trying to be rude or anything. I really like them. That's why I live here.

00:30:16.580 But they're just, they're a little eccentric and a little weird, and they tend to have very, very wide-ranging opinions on a whole bunch of different things.

00:30:22.860 And so, this is what's happening, I think. That's kind of a top-down perspective on what's happening with the BC Conservative Party.

00:30:28.520 For some people in the party, it is too liberal.

00:30:32.400 That's why Dallas Brody and Tara Armstrong, I believe is their name, left the party to create the one BC party.

00:30:37.460 This is another fracturing.

00:30:39.440 And for some people, it's too conservative.

00:30:41.500 That would probably characterize Amelia Bolte and Eleanor Sturko. 0.98

00:30:44.880 These are two members that are now sitting as independents.

00:30:46.980 Now everybody wants John Rustad to step down.

00:30:51.880 John Rustad called Amelia Bolte mentally ill, which is kind of ridiculous, frankly.

00:31:00.040 I'm curious to get your guys' opinion on that.

00:31:02.780 No, I was just going to ask, because tell me just a bit more about, like, so is the whole board of, like, the party asking him to step down, or is it a bunch of...

00:31:10.800 Yeah, seven or eight members have asked him to step down.

00:31:14.100 He only has one member on the board that's still supporting him, as I understand it currently.

00:31:19.040 And what power do they actually have to push him out?

00:31:21.300 Like, is it...

00:31:22.140 Could they force him to step down, or can he kind of just say, I'm not stepping down, like, screw off?

00:31:27.180 I feel like because this party was kind of formed out of the ashes as a last-minute thing right before the last provincial election between, like, two other parties,

00:31:36.300 that it's not exactly clear what, like, is going on here.

00:31:38.860 It's, like, as lawless as Richmond with the Cowichan tribes thing, right? 1.00

00:31:43.520 I mean, in BC, there's, like, no rules, basically.

00:31:45.600 They don't even have property right there.

00:31:46.500 No, really.

00:31:47.080 Like, they just basically, like, threw two other parties in the fire and then started a new one.

00:31:52.660 So, like, there's...

00:31:54.360 I don't know.

00:31:54.820 Yeah, well, Lee, do you think there's any chance Rustad will step down?

00:31:58.040 And as a second prong to that question, if he did, do you think the BC Conservatives would have a better likelihood of actually winning the next provincial election?

00:32:07.660 For the first question, I think that definitely there is a strong chance he could resign.

00:32:11.480 And I'm thinking about this because I'm looking at provincial politics, and I think third parties or the break-off parties are much more strong, usually speaking.

00:32:18.620 I mean, you know, we've only had two parties govern at the federal level, but at the provincial level, we've, you know, the Conservative side for itself has made its face off the Liberal Party, the old Liberal Party that was supposed to fill up for the Conservatives, plus the old resurrected Conservative Party that used to exist, that never really had enough success.

00:32:34.060 So, now you have the 1BC party, you have some, you know, former figures, you have all these defectors from his caucus, staff members.

00:32:42.460 So, I think what I'm trying to say is the credibility of the breakaway folks, so the amount of them, what positions they previously held, will judge exactly how strong the resistance is against that particular leader.

00:32:56.140 I don't think this is a complete rejection of the Conservative Party as it could be.

00:33:00.520 I think it's mostly a rejection of Rustad's leadership.

00:33:04.060 Again, they haven't taken the Bernier speech yet, where they said the party is too morally and intellectually corrupt to be reformed.

00:33:11.860 The party barely existed, so I guess they might still be open-minded in terms of bringing those members and voters and those, you know, supporters back into the Conservative Party fold, which I think is good for the Conservative Party overall.

00:33:23.720 They don't want to defy themselves too much, because as you know, BC itself already has a large, strong, loyal, liberal or NDP progressive base.

00:33:31.720 I think it's the Conservatives that have to manage themselves a bit better in order to get a half good result against the NDP, which they almost got.

00:33:39.540 So, I mean, I think right now, given Kimir Ebi's weakness nationally, his view domestically, I think a lot of people are not thinking about Rustad being the only one that can actually defeat Ebi.

00:33:52.980 I think they're open to new leadership.

00:33:55.180 I think those that are breaking away have representation.

00:33:59.580 A lot are breaking away.

00:34:00.840 There's a lot of outgoing and public resistance to him.

00:34:05.960 So, I guess you could say there's an appetite for it, because the politicians themselves are chasing after the appetite in the form of a third party or the form of, you know, sitting as an independent for a while.

00:34:16.480 Well, you had Doug Ford deal with something similar, and then you had the Ontario New Blue Party and the Ontario Party.

00:34:23.020 But again, those never took out much ground.

00:34:26.280 So, therefore, I don't think you have a great resistance internally.

00:34:29.120 But in the case of, you know, like let's say the CAC party in Quebec that actually governs the province as well, you have a lot of resistance and defectors there.

00:34:38.280 And, of course, that party is saying very low.

00:34:41.900 So, I guess you have to look at the indicators of the polling of the party of where the leader sets and how his opponents or his new opponents, his defectors, are doing themselves and how much they represent.

00:34:52.120 Well, I think that's it.

00:34:54.620 It's who you represent, right?

00:34:56.220 And I think that the big failure of John Rustad is that the reason that I gave that top-down perspective on BC politics earlier is to establish the fact that if you're going to have an alternative to the NDP or the leftist party in BC, you have to have a very wide tent and a very opening tent to everybody.

00:35:13.680 And what he did is he was muzzling people because he didn't like what they said, or he was kicking them out of caucus because he didn't agree with their politics.

00:35:20.840 I mean, you're just not going to win that way.

00:35:22.460 And so, if you were to run as the leader, it's a fool's errand.

00:35:25.380 They'll lose.

00:35:27.000 So, when you say a wide tent, Alex, do you mean in a way that, for example, you couldn't be a big C, strong, right, conservative party?

00:35:34.900 You'd kind of have to be in the middle so that you're more on the middle ground so you can kind of take in people that are a bit on the left, take in people that are better on the right and kind of just find that middle ground?

00:35:43.600 Isn't that what Russ said?

00:35:44.780 Because you're talking about the firing.

00:35:46.340 Is he firing his progressive coalition or is he profiling the more, you know, pro C conservatives?

00:35:51.860 Both.

00:35:52.380 So, that was a really strange thing.

00:35:53.880 And so, I mean, he was firing people for speaking out against, like, the whole Kamloops grave controversy.

00:36:00.320 We'll just call it, you know, misinformation.

00:36:03.000 So, he fired people over that.

00:36:05.720 There were, you would say, would probably be on the right.

00:36:07.880 And then he also fired people on the left.

00:36:11.040 Well, actually, they, I should say, like, Amelia Bowlby was on the left and she quit. 0.99

00:36:16.020 And Eleanor Sturko, we're not exactly sure what happened.

00:36:19.540 She was just seen, like, running out of her office.

00:36:21.580 And everybody's in tears.

00:36:22.540 And it's just a bunch of, it's nonsense, dude.

00:36:24.900 Like, BC politics is completely ridiculous.

00:36:27.300 The conservatives ask for things.

00:36:29.020 And then the NDP say that they're being bullied.

00:36:31.940 Right?

00:36:32.340 That's always what they do.

00:36:33.340 They say, like, we are standing up for children, bullied children, as if they are the bullied children.

00:36:37.860 It's like, you're the government.

00:36:39.400 It's very frustrating.

00:36:43.520 It's unbelievable.

00:36:45.800 It's worse than federal politics.

00:36:48.340 I can tell you're getting heated, Alex.

00:36:50.060 So, maybe we'll move to our next and our last story to cool things down.

00:36:53.240 Because it's really a fun and exciting one.

00:36:55.660 And, of course, we're talking now about, well, I got the hat on, actually.

00:36:59.360 I didn't realize that.

00:37:00.040 But, yeah, I was just wearing it to look nice and to match you, Alex.

00:37:02.580 But the Blue Jays are obviously starting in the World Series on Friday here.

00:37:07.020 And I should say, because I'm not entirely sure when we're going to post this.

00:37:09.740 But we are recording Thursday night.

00:37:11.240 So, if the game already happened and I say something that's now outdated, I do apologize.

00:37:16.560 But, of course, no, I was super interested in this.

00:37:19.480 This was some research done on October 16th about the Blue Jays from the Angus Reid Institute.

00:37:25.820 And they kind of talked about how many Canadians are following it.

00:37:29.040 Because in my eyes, I'm like, of course, every single Canadian in Canada is watching this.

00:37:32.840 Because the Blue Jays haven't been to the World Series in, like, 30 or 40 years.

00:37:37.080 So, this isn't something that happens every day.

00:37:40.560 But just based on the study here, almost 40% of Canadians said they were following the Blue Jays closely.

00:37:46.520 And this was in the American League Championship Series or even just at the start of it when this started.

00:37:51.960 So, that was well before.

00:37:53.780 Now we're into the World Series.

00:37:55.020 So, it's only going to get bigger and bigger.

00:37:57.060 So, keep in mind that any numbers I share are likely higher now.

00:37:59.960 And, of course, almost half, 48% of Canadians considered Blue Jays to be Canada's team.

00:38:06.740 Which I find interesting because the alternatives, I suppose, were Ontario's team or Toronto's team.

00:38:12.940 But it is interesting to me that not all Canadians see the Jays as Canada's team.

00:38:19.460 And I guess it makes sense if you're on Ontario.

00:38:21.440 But outside of that, I find that a bit odd.

00:38:24.420 Especially because the province with the most amount of people that called Blue Jays Canada's team was Saskatchewan.

00:38:31.360 So, that's a bit interesting.

00:38:32.440 Where three quarters were making that claim.

00:38:34.220 So, Saskatchewanians are the most Team Canada, Team Blue Jays related there.

00:38:39.400 So, Saskatchewanian.

00:38:40.640 Anytime I get to say that word is a good time.

00:38:42.900 But a few other interesting stats I'll share.

00:38:46.320 69% of people said the Blue Jays had a decent chance at winning the World Series.

00:38:50.880 Which, I'll just say right now is ridiculous.

00:38:53.560 69% no chance.

00:38:55.520 The Dodgers are so favored.

00:38:57.400 But, hey, that's the beautiful thing about sports.

00:38:59.500 Anything can happen.

00:39:00.780 But, yeah, for anyone who doesn't know baseball, the Blue Jays are basically playing the big bad wolf of the league.

00:39:06.040 That's the LA Dodgers.

00:39:07.080 They are, of course, the defending champions of the World Series.

00:39:09.540 They have the highest payroll in the league.

00:39:11.260 They're best player and arguably the best player in baseball since Babe Ruth, Shohei Otani.

00:39:17.300 He kind of leveraged the Blue Jays when he was negotiating.

00:39:20.620 Because he's a pitcher and he can hit, right?

00:39:23.060 He's one of the best pitchers in the league and one of the best hitters in the league at the same time.

00:39:27.260 Yes.

00:39:27.620 He had a game where he pitched like seven innings and had like three homers.

00:39:32.080 And it's like, bro, what are you doing, man?

00:39:33.600 That's wild.

00:39:34.040 It's just insane.

00:39:35.680 But, yeah, he's kind of a…

00:39:38.040 That's like having a goalie who can score goals.

00:39:40.080 I don't know that Torontonians would love him because he leveraged Toronto more or less because he was negotiating with us when he was negotiating with the Dodgers.

00:39:47.520 And basically just, in my opinion, used Toronto to leverage his deal and never actually planned to sign here.

00:39:52.940 It's funny.

00:39:53.580 The Jays coach, Schneider, he was talking about Otani yesterday.

00:39:57.120 And he said he gave him a package whenever when they were negotiating.

00:40:00.820 And he was like, if you have the hat still, can you please bring it back?

00:40:03.700 Give it back to us.

00:40:06.020 That's what Schneider said.

00:40:07.660 But, yeah, no.

00:40:09.080 Obviously, this starts on Friday, guys.

00:40:11.080 And it'll be pretty good, especially because the Blue Jays, their best hitter and one of the best hitters in the league, if not the second best hitter in the league, I think, had the second most hits.

00:40:20.300 Bo Bichette.

00:40:20.860 He hasn't really played.

00:40:22.560 He didn't play the entire last series.

00:40:24.340 And he got injured in the ALDS there.

00:40:26.100 So he hasn't played.

00:40:27.040 So we won the last series without him.

00:40:28.660 What's he saying?

00:40:29.480 But he'll be coming back.

00:40:30.440 Bo Bichette.

00:40:31.180 He used to have the real long hair, real nice long hair, but he shaved it.

00:40:34.840 But, yeah, no.

00:40:35.720 So the Jays also have a home field advantage, which is nice because they had, I think, one more win than the Dodgers.

00:40:42.080 So baseball is weird because you play the first two games at home in Toronto.

00:40:47.580 Then the next three will be in L.A.

00:40:50.220 And then the last two in Toronto, whereas hockey is 2-2, 1-1-1.

00:40:53.500 It's not like that.

00:40:54.040 Who gets the, like, who's the advantage go-to?

00:40:56.240 Blue Jays.

00:40:57.240 So it'll be in Toronto.

00:40:58.260 And, of course, we saw Pierre Palliev.

00:41:01.580 Okay, I get it.

00:41:02.780 Yeah, they had more wins, so they get the advantage.

00:41:05.080 But we saw Pierre Palliev at the games already against the Yankees there.

00:41:08.240 So it'll be interesting to see if he goes to another game and if he's just in the crowd again.

00:41:12.300 Because imagine, guys, you go to the ball game and there's Pierre.

00:41:14.860 But one other thing I'll mention is Kearney is apparently going to one of the Jays' practice, which is very, very, very, very bad because of the Kearney curse.

00:41:23.520 I don't know if you guys know what happened in Edmonton last year.

00:41:26.460 But the Kearney curse struck.

00:41:28.180 Kearney came to Edmonton.

00:41:29.280 Everyone got injured.

00:41:30.460 And it was a very bad situation.

00:41:33.220 All our best players, I think even our goalie, got injured.

00:41:35.800 And there's other examples.

00:41:37.220 I don't remember them all.

00:41:38.560 But the Kearney curse is a real thing.

00:41:40.540 When Kearney comes to your team, it's not good.

00:41:42.840 And he went to a Jays' practice there.

00:41:44.680 So, Waleed, do you think that Kearney has dug the grave for the Jays here? 0.50

00:41:48.720 And they're already, again, the Dodgers are super favorites in this series.

00:41:52.240 So now the Kearney curse on top of it all.

00:41:54.020 I mean, are the Jays doomed or what?

00:41:56.020 Well, in case any of our political viewership is still watching the show,

00:41:59.500 I'll tell you there was a very interesting story where Kearney speaking to media reporters at the practice today that he attended.

00:42:06.420 And he said that he's looking to bet on the Jays.

00:42:08.560 And he's actually chirping against Trump, saying that Trump isn't answering his call for a possible bet.

00:42:15.800 So maybe Trump might be afraid, according to his view.

00:42:17.880 Yeah, Waleed, I don't think Trump's ever answered one of Kearney's calls. 0.93

00:42:20.880 From what we've seen in past press conferences here, he said he did not pick up the phone when Kearney called.

00:42:25.220 Yeah, I guess that's the case in this case as well.

00:42:27.540 But in terms of Kearney, I think he seems to be confident that not only does he not have a curse effect on the team,

00:42:32.920 but the team itself has a great odds to win that he puts some of his own money, I guess,

00:42:36.900 or hopefully not the taxpayer dollar on some sport betting for the final.

00:42:42.440 But again, I think, I guess it's just like with the Raptors.

00:42:46.180 You know, you never saw, I mean, a lot of politicians like sports, some don't.

00:42:49.500 But, I mean, you saw the hype with the Raptors when they, you know, finally, you know, got to the final

00:42:53.900 and how everyone was rallying behind them and how Toronto was full of fans,

00:42:56.860 even seasonal fans that aren't normally fans.

00:42:59.040 But, you know, because Canada has very few, you know, let's say American sports franchises.

00:43:04.320 I mean, outside of the NHL, you really have small representation, NBA, one team.

00:43:09.220 I'm pretty sure the MLB is also one team.

00:43:11.000 Yeah, no, that's correct.

00:43:13.720 Right?

00:43:14.660 So that's not the thing anymore.

00:43:16.020 And, of course, in the NBA, at least you had a Grizzlies in Vancouver in the past.

00:43:19.720 Alex, I'm sure you remember hearing about them back when,

00:43:22.280 and maybe you might see their jerseys still around in, you know, pop culture shops.

00:43:27.100 So, yeah, I mean, the Canadian advantage, if there's any advantage for having a Canadian franchise

00:43:32.620 versus an American one is having one franchise for the entire country 0.63

00:43:35.940 and the whole country rallying behind.

00:43:37.560 And that kind of creates an expanded fan base, creates more money and revenue.

00:43:41.360 So you may not have, you know, the Canadian team be the richest team,

00:43:44.520 but it will definitely, let's say, will punch above the weight of teams that are similar.

00:43:48.760 So in the case of the Raptors being now a mid-table slash, you know, draft pick,

00:43:54.040 you know, kind of lottery pick kind of team.

00:43:56.580 And the same thing can be said for, for example, the Blue Jays in the past,

00:44:00.440 they weren't so good.

00:44:01.360 You know, we weren't hanging by the Blue Jays going so far into the playoffs.

00:44:03.600 So I could say that about the Jays as well.

00:44:06.300 When they do get good, they're always going to be above, let's say,

00:44:10.640 the teams with similar budgets or similar size or similar success

00:44:13.480 because they have that 36, 37, 37 million monopoly market of people

00:44:19.720 that are going to rally behind because it's simply the only team to cheer for in the country.

00:44:23.440 So I hope for the best for the Jays in their sake.

00:44:25.580 I think it's a great vibe to have a little bit of good things to celebrate nationally speaking

00:44:30.940 and bring Saskatchewan, people from Ontario together, you know, so positively.

00:44:37.200 But I think at the end of the day, Carney's visit there is maybe a start.

00:44:43.200 Yeah, Walid, I was meaning to ask, did Carney say if he was going to go to one of the games?

00:44:46.860 Because that was one interesting point people brought up when Pierre went.

00:44:49.440 Of course, he was just sitting in basic seats.

00:44:51.480 And we can only imagine if Carney went, he'd be in the VIP suites.

00:44:55.360 I'm thinking about the conduct of other politicians in comparable situations.

00:44:59.900 I think he might actually show up if it goes down to, let's say, a game six at home or game seven at home.

00:45:06.900 As you mentioned, game six and seven, I guess the reason why the MLB decides to give that to the home team

00:45:11.300 is those are the signing games.

00:45:12.760 In most cases, if it's a tight matchup, a final can always be a tight matchup

00:45:16.500 because at the end of the day, the Dodgers are the stronger team.

00:45:18.480 But both teams went through rounds of tests to get to where they are.

00:45:22.560 I can't expect a sweep going anywhere.

00:45:24.240 But it's going to be a series of at least five to six games.

00:45:27.760 That's my prediction right there.

00:45:29.880 I'm going to be honest with you guys.

00:45:30.920 I'm a big sports fan.

00:45:31.760 I love sports.

00:45:32.820 But I never watch baseball.

00:45:35.060 And I watched it yesterday or a couple of days ago for the first time in a very long time.

00:45:38.980 And I made this observation.

00:45:40.680 What I like about baseball is that in every other sport, when you score, it's quick.

00:45:45.780 By the time you hear somebody kick the ball, the ball is already in the net.

00:45:49.980 But in baseball, there's a suspense.

00:45:52.040 When you hear the bat hit the ball, there's a moment where you can watch slowly if they score.

00:46:00.680 And there's this weird, oh.

00:46:03.640 I find it really entertaining.

00:46:04.460 Yeah, no.

00:46:04.800 That's what the one sportscaster says on sports out there.

00:46:08.260 He's like, get up, ball.

00:46:09.320 Get up.

00:46:09.760 He's like, please get out.

00:46:11.180 Because it's like, is it going to go?

00:46:12.640 Is it going to go?

00:46:13.260 Get up, ball.

00:46:13.760 Yeah, I find that really compelling and interesting for some reason.

00:46:16.320 I don't know.

00:46:16.680 It makes me like the sport.

00:46:17.840 It's something I never noticed before.

00:46:18.960 My grandpa made another interesting point to me the other day with regards to listening

00:46:24.040 to baseball on the radio and how that compares to hockey.

00:46:28.020 Because baseball is always one-on-one, right?

00:46:30.260 It's the pitcher versus the batter.

00:46:31.480 Whereas in hockey, it's five-on-five.

00:46:33.100 So there's 10 guys could be contributing to a play at once.

00:46:35.760 Whereas when you're just talking about baseball, it is one-on-one pretty much all the time,

00:46:40.740 right?

00:46:40.920 So it is really simple.

00:46:41.700 That's true.

00:46:42.440 And it would make sense why it was such a sport for radio, because that suspended kind

00:46:47.680 of elongated crowd reaction would give you an idea of where the ball went, right?

00:46:53.480 You don't really get that in soccer or hockey, right?

00:46:56.220 I think you get the opposite effect in soccer is you get more verbal excitement on the field.

00:47:00.600 I think if you're listening to soccer on the radio, you're thinking, oh my God, this

00:47:03.300 is crazy.

00:47:04.200 Whereas the guy's playing a ball and it's just like the fifth, sixth.

00:47:07.880 Dude, I only watch soccer to see the guys dancing and doing crazy stuff in the crowds.

00:47:11.300 It's a party, man.

00:47:13.620 Oh, speaking of cardio showing up to sports events, whether or not he shows up to the

00:47:17.520 World Series would be interesting.

00:47:18.760 I think he definitely might if they go to a game five or six back home in Toronto.

00:47:22.620 It could even be a game one if he has enough time.

00:47:24.760 I mean, he's spending a lot of time in Toronto these days with announcements on crime.

00:47:27.740 And of course, that's fitting because Toronto is dealing with a big crime crisis.

00:47:30.840 But I definitely can expect that come July when the World Cup shows up in both Toronto

00:47:35.260 and Vancouver, Cardinal will be there.

00:47:37.240 And other world leaders, depending on the country playing, might also be there, especially

00:47:40.620 coming down to the more important games, big matchups.

00:47:45.780 And if we have any knockout stage games, I believe we do have the round of 16.

00:47:50.020 I'm unsure how many games we might have in the quarter or semis.

00:47:52.980 I think we might at least have a quarter finals game.

00:47:55.140 It's an unfortunate part of Canada sharing a World Cup with other countries.

00:47:57.420 But then again, frankly, it reduces the cost for us.

00:47:59.860 Well, Waleed, you've got to start working on your pitch to get down to those games with 0.98

00:48:05.440 True North.

00:48:06.440 I would love to do more sports.

00:48:07.500 I think definitely we can always expand more into the sports world.

00:48:10.660 No, dude, I'm telling you, look at the YouTube comments.

00:48:13.980 They hate our sports coverage.

00:48:16.040 Our audience hates us talking about sports, which...

00:48:19.120 Well, we've got to make a phone call.

00:48:19.940 That's what I said.

00:48:20.680 You'll have to let us know.

00:48:22.280 Anyways, my name is Isaac Lammer.

00:48:23.660 I'd like to thank my colleagues again, Waleed Tam Tam and Alex Zoltan.

00:48:26.120 And I remember everything you heard today was off the record.

00:48:29.860 I'm going to say, before I hit a post, please, I'll do this one.

00:48:34.660 I'm going to say, well, we're Romans.

00:48:35.140 We're going to say, well, if we can pack a world, Holmes, that is true.

00:48:36.020 Thank you.

00:48:37.640 We're going to 서 in the next show.

00:48:41.540 We're going to tell you, how will you list?

00:48:42.180 We can Peki.

00:48:44.480 Oh my goodness.

00:48:48.660 We'll be right back.

00:48:49.480 So maybe, thanks to that.

00:48:50.860 We'll be right back.

00:48:51.320 ziet Gto Chiang to watch such a joke. 0.85

00:48:53.620 We'll be right back.

00:48:54.040 We'll be right back.

00:48:55.060 Well, let me know.

00:48:55.720 We'll be right back.

00:48:57.020 We'll be right back.

Juno News - October 25, 2025

MPs invite convict to Parliament Hill

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