Juno News - June 19, 2024


Nationwide anti-mass immigration protests planned for Canada Day


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00:00:00.000 well we all know that a majority of canadians agree that immigration in canada is far too high
00:00:09.760 we also know that immigrants in canada want to see a limit on the number of immigrants that the
00:00:14.400 trudeau government is taking in something they are clearly not doing at all right now immigration
00:00:19.680 is the biggest issue facing our country right now it should be the leading issue heading in
00:00:25.120 to the next federal election and quite frankly all of the other issues in our country are caused
00:00:30.720 almost entirely by out of control open borders mass immigration in canada but the question is
00:00:37.520 what are you going to do about this sure immigration is discussed online but our entire political class
00:00:45.120 except for one political party the people's party of canada led by maxime bernier refuse to talk about
00:00:51.520 immigration they seem afraid to talk about immigration now i believe that one of the reasons
00:00:57.600 why no one is talking about this is that we as canadians have been sold out our interests the
00:01:03.760 interests of our children and those of our future generations have been sold out by our politicians
00:01:10.640 and our media for profit and for political victory so i ask again what are you going to do about this
00:01:18.160 well our next guest is someone who has said enough is enough and he has decided to lead nationwide
00:01:25.120 protests on canada day against mass immigration in this country and against our leadership who have
00:01:31.840 brought this upon us well joining us now on the faulkner show is the leader of take back canada
00:01:37.520 ethan duggan take back canada is a group that he started to provide a voice for the majority in this
00:01:43.120 country who want to see immigration controlled even thank you so much for joining us thank you for
00:01:50.320 having me so let's just jump right into this protest because i think a lot of canadians have been waiting
00:01:56.400 for something like this a lot of canadians want to speak they want to have their voices heard and an
00:02:01.360 opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with their fellow canadians to address this issue
00:02:05.840 take us through canada day what you have in mind and what you would like to see
00:02:08.800 so i think you really um that's something important i think canadians are really looking for something
00:02:14.080 and i was looking for some kind of movement you know i think it's um people are really kind of
00:02:20.480 starting to realize that the direction this country is heading in is just catastrophic um people are
00:02:26.160 starting to just wake up to the reality of the policies that are in place and the fact that we
00:02:31.840 really don't you know young people like myself and people around my age don't feel like we have much
00:02:36.720 of our future at least here in canada i personally don't know very many people that at least that i
00:02:41.360 went to school with and such that aren't planning on leaving canada and i think that's tragic and
00:02:46.880 um so yeah i felt much the same way i was looking for some kind of outlet something to join to take
00:02:53.360 action and there just didn't seem to be much out there so um as the day started going by and you
00:02:59.680 know i couldn't find anything um i started to think like well someone's gotta do something
00:03:06.560 so um yeah here we are um in terms of what we're looking for on the the protests like
00:03:13.760 it's really we're trying to keep this very open to people of you know all different political stripes
00:03:19.520 um we're trying to very much be concentrated on the message of you know canadians did not consent to
00:03:26.720 this you know corporate fueled mass immigration that we're currently having um you know it's not benefiting
00:03:35.120 canadians it's very clearly profit driven by um by a pretty select um group of people in our country
00:03:43.440 and our government's just not listening to us um you know people want one an election right now um
00:03:52.880 because people are just so incredibly dissatisfied with uh with their government um in a democracy when
00:03:58.080 it gets to this point there is a precedent that you're supposed to call an election
00:04:01.680 um and in general our democracy is just not working like you know there's been so many polls on
00:04:10.000 people's opinion on the matter and the exact numbers range but it's pretty consistently from
00:04:15.120 what i've seen between 50 and 70 percent of canadians think we have too much immigration
00:04:19.200 um and yet we have you know our politicians um saying things like you know the cost of the temporary uh
00:04:29.680 immigrants is already baked in so let's make them permanent which is just you know i can't it's
00:04:35.840 almost unimaginable that uh someone in a position of power in our country could think we're that stupid
00:04:40.640 and say to us you know two plus two actually equals three it's like we're it's it's unbelievable
00:04:49.600 um just the the state of our democracy um and i believe that the government that's in power
00:04:55.840 has totally lost consent of the population to rule us in the beginning or to begin with i should say
00:05:03.200 um and that's what the protest is about is um to make it known that canadians aren't going to be
00:05:12.240 passive and just take this line down like they they typically have um we're not going to just sit
00:05:19.040 around anymore while our future is completely sold out from under us um it's time for our political
00:05:26.000 class to actually listen to us and understand that we're getting to the point we're ready to take
00:05:30.320 action and so you know i don't think canada has ever taken that step obviously you've had protests
00:05:37.040 before and it's been kind of more um you know specialized uh should say specialized it's been very specific
00:05:44.960 um political groups of people that have organized but i don't think in a very long time we've had
00:05:52.480 mass protests that represent um the will of the majority of canadians um so i think that needs to
00:05:59.360 change and i is my hope that when the people in power see that there's growing unrest um they'll maybe get
00:06:08.000 a little a little scared and um actually be responsive to the will of the people you've touched
00:06:14.880 on an important part of which is of course that the majority are with you and the majority stand on
00:06:20.480 the side of wanting to see immigration numbers lower in this country they want to have a controlled
00:06:25.920 immigration system they don't want to have just basically what we have right now which is essentially
00:06:30.080 open borders why why is it you think that this is being driven primarily by young people
00:06:38.080 and also on top of that why is it that politicians even those that claim to be conservative and those
00:06:44.400 that you know we know that the numbers on the conservative side of those who want to see a
00:06:48.960 decrease in immigration are very high but yet we don't have political representation on this issue
00:06:55.120 at a serious level of course we have the ppc but at an establishment level of the conservative party
00:07:01.760 it seems to be a non-issue whereas in other countries in the world it is a mainstream issue
00:07:07.360 let's just start with the political side of this why do you think that the conservative
00:07:12.400 establishment in canada seem to have no interest in tackling this issue well i'll start with your
00:07:17.600 your first question um which is you know why this is so driven by young people i think the answer is
00:07:23.600 very clear it's young people that are losing out um you know all the people they have their investments
00:07:29.680 they want their their real estate investments to do very well so you know and most of them have
00:07:36.880 you know moved away into the country where they're not seeing like young people are in the cities because
00:07:41.120 they need jobs and that's where the jobs are and so it's right in our faces and it's also our futures that
00:07:48.240 are just being you know given away more or less just destroyed all so that's you know um a select number
00:07:57.840 of massive corporations can have really cheap labor and people who own investment properties can you know
00:08:06.480 see their investments grow massively um and also of course there's the the corporate investors like
00:08:11.920 corporations that purchase um uh real estate um and i think that's why it's it's young people it's
00:08:19.440 because we're the ones that have something at stake here and we're also the ones that are
00:08:23.520 um living in the places where it's right in our faces um i think that's the reason for that
00:08:29.520 in terms of the political representation i mean it's no secret like
00:08:33.120 it's become such a taboo in our society and our culture and western culture in general um to talk
00:08:42.320 about immigration you know the the term racism the term xenophobia gets thrown around with this and
00:08:50.560 we're really at a state where you know it feels to a lot of people like it's not safe to just have
00:08:57.920 a healthy discussion about the policies that affect all of our lives and affect our country
00:09:03.120 um and i think that to some extent the uh the conservative party is is sensitive to that i've seen
00:09:12.960 some people theorize that they're so ahead in the polls you know why touch immigration um but you
00:09:19.280 know we've also seen videos of pierre povie um speaking like he's basically not going to do anything
00:09:27.600 about the about the immigration issue in fact he's going to help people um bring over family members
00:09:34.240 and um help people get their prs and stuff um i think that's horribly concerning um and i think that
00:09:44.160 the conservatives if they think that they can you know operate that way when they get in power and
00:09:50.560 have those policies and that people will kind of you know just vote for them and give them a chance
00:09:57.280 and be content that maybe they'll do something while they continue to not do anything
00:10:02.800 um you know just look at the look at the tories in the uk um now they might be looking to the tories
00:10:09.360 in uk and thinking oh they have 14 years um just making fools out of their of their voters
00:10:15.760 um so you know we can ride that that's about as long as any canadian government can hope to have
00:10:20.560 in the first place um but i think that canadians see that example people are becoming a lot more
00:10:27.280 politically aware of what's going on in the world around them and i don't think we're going to be
00:10:33.120 tricked for this in the same way definitely nowhere near as long um if they if they do that so i think
00:10:40.240 that they should uh you know at this point it's so sad so many canadians are hoping that the people
00:10:47.280 they're voting for are being dishonest we hope that they're ignoring this issue and even you know
00:10:53.760 saying they'll um do things that will worsen it um to get in power i think that's a horribly sad state
00:10:59.920 of affairs that we have to hope our politicians are being dishonest i think they should grow up
00:11:05.200 and they should be honest and not be afraid i think that honesty is the best policy
00:11:09.360 you know do and say what you think is right yeah and don't be afraid right like why would we want
00:11:16.000 to have a leader who is afraid of being called racist or xenophobic by people that hate him anyway
00:11:22.080 right it's the media and the liberals and his opposition that are going to attack him that way
00:11:26.480 but who cares they're the opposition they're they are going to attack you but this is the issue of the
00:11:30.880 moment so i completely agree with you ethan why why are leaders there they i don't want to vote for
00:11:37.120 someone who's afraid of being called names by his own political opposition i want to vote with for
00:11:42.160 someone who has some courage now eventually and it's not it is eventual because it's just going to be
00:11:47.840 what it is going to be people who protest against immigration on canada day there are going to be
00:11:53.120 those that call it racist that say these guys are are uh you know they they don't want they don't want
00:11:58.880 to have foreigners in the country they're they're stoking uh you know xenophobia how do you plan
00:12:05.200 as a leader of this group to to tackle those accusations because you know they're going to come
00:12:11.840 well i think it's i think it's clear first of all what i've noticed which has been really encouraging
00:12:17.600 um and almost you know funny in a way is that some of the people that seem most serious about the cause
00:12:23.760 when i'm out and i'm actually putting up posters um like in the city the people that come up to me are
00:12:30.880 immigrants um some of them you know from 20 plus years ago some of them from just five years ago
00:12:35.920 that you know tell me they they agree with the cause and they don't like what's going on right now
00:12:40.800 um i think that i i really hope to have a lot of those type of folks show up um and you're totally
00:12:49.760 right we we can't avoid that people are going to call us names we also can't avoid that there's going to
00:12:54.160 be some genuinely distasteful people that come to this cause but i think that you know this belief
00:13:01.680 that people have or this tendency people have to you know change their opinion because certain people
00:13:09.680 that hold an opinion you know just the the general stance that this immigration policy is not working
00:13:14.800 we need less immigration you know of course there's going to be people who hate immigrants hate people
00:13:23.200 of of certain races that are going to agree with that sentiment but is that going to mean you know that
00:13:29.760 you you run away from from what you believe personally because you're going to let those people
00:13:35.760 um decide that just because you agree on some general point it's like we all we all drink water we all agree
00:13:41.840 for the most part that i don't know let's say murderers should go to jail um i'm sure there's
00:13:48.880 some really horrible people that also drink water and believe that murderers should go to jail but are
00:13:54.400 you going to um associate that belief solely with those people and then um hold the opposite beliefs so
00:14:02.960 i think that you know it's we're entering into a time that's going to get messy i think that people need
00:14:10.400 to realize that this is the decade we've already seen it and i think covid was just kind of a coincidence
00:14:15.440 and not really the cause of of this happening i think the 2020s is always the decade that history started again
00:14:22.320 um i think you know that we've seen that in so many things i think the biggest thing is the war in ukraine
00:14:28.480 was you know is something that people didn't think it was just unthinkable and then very quickly with that
00:14:36.400 the unthinkable became reality and the um just the seemingly completely impossible became plausible
00:14:44.080 and i think we're only going to see more and more of that um this decade and 2030s and the 2040s
00:14:50.400 um i think this world that we've lived in since uh the collapse of the soya union of you know just
00:14:56.880 the world feeling like a relatively safe place obviously history has happened 9 11 happened the wars in
00:15:02.000 the middle east happened um you know not to belittle those but in terms of their effect on the world
00:15:08.640 and especially their effect on us we don't understand the the western psyche the canadian psyche people
00:15:16.880 don't get that history can still happen those massive events you you read about in uh in history books
00:15:24.960 they're coming again that's a good point it's a good point because of course if this just continues
00:15:31.760 if this if we just continue with this mass immigration agenda there will be a backlash which
00:15:38.320 i don't think anyone wants to see it's not canadian it's not how we approach uh domestic issues in our
00:15:44.400 country so it's now it is the right time and frankly it was it was a few years ago before it started but
00:15:50.000 we're now at a point where politicians have to address this issue and put an end to it
00:15:54.800 to stop bad things from happening no one wants to see a a serious backlash and unless this issue is
00:16:01.440 taken seriously like like you are right now with take back canada things are going to get very very
00:16:07.760 scary for for canadians now before the protest has already started you've already received pushback
00:16:13.760 because your group was banned from reddit if i'm not mistaken what happened there why why did why
00:16:19.360 did take back canada get get banned from reddit um and what have you guys done since to remedy that
00:16:25.600 and to get your message out yeah so um that was i won't give them i won't dignify them by by naming
00:16:32.480 them but uh there was a certain other group of people on reddit that made it their mission basically
00:16:39.520 and we have receipts we have the uh the screenshots of them discussing it um people can i think it's
00:16:45.280 they're floating around some other um somewhat adjacent subreddits a lot of people have seen but
00:16:51.680 we got brigaded um we were you know we're we're all new to this um we're new to even starting a
00:17:00.160 a subreddit and i was speaking to the owner of another subreddit recently um i didn't realize that
00:17:07.040 you could actually make it so that when someone submits a post in your subreddit it doesn't get posted right
00:17:12.400 away and you actually have to a moderate history review beforehand we were trying to moderate you
00:17:17.120 know people who just post whatever and then we were going and trying to moderate after the fact
00:17:20.240 we didn't have you know necessarily um the manpower to do that effectively um when people were brigading
00:17:26.560 us and yeah there was some pretty important stuff on there um i believe certainly no it's hard to say
00:17:33.360 i definitely imagine there was some genuinely um just unsavory people saying some unsavory things
00:17:41.120 but most of it was just so outlandish and you know you can tell when someone's saying something
00:17:47.840 to be as outrageous as possible that uh yeah it was mostly a result of brigading and then they
00:17:54.480 um you know post that and then of course mass report and uh it is what it is um we're trying to get our
00:18:01.440 message out in other ways um again this is i'm very new to this um the people that i've been
00:18:10.960 able to build a bit of a team around are also completely new to this um we're we're trying
00:18:19.120 we'll uh we'll have missteps we'll make mistakes we'll we'll um you know have setbacks but you know
00:18:28.080 i know for myself that i'm i'm completely dedicated to this um the way i see it people in this country
00:18:35.600 before me people that came before me they went to war and they put their lives on the line and they
00:18:39.760 died many of them for this country and you know the least i can do is is this um absolutely and it
00:18:48.000 sounds like this it sounds like this reddit this reddit banning had nothing obviously it was it was
00:18:52.960 outside groups trying to sabotage what you were trying to do something that is genuinely important
00:18:58.400 for the future of the country um and i i don't think i'm alone in saying that now where can canadians
00:19:05.040 find out how to engage with this protest where can canadians uh either start one of these protests
00:19:10.720 in their city using what you've built and using your um using your posters how can canadians interact
00:19:16.080 with this so they can they can get involved themselves so first thing you can do is we just started our x
00:19:21.440 accounts um uh at take back canada x um there's not not a lot on there right now but that's going to be
00:19:28.000 kind of the main outlet that we that we put out news and then as well as our our website take back
00:19:32.560 canada.info um our biggest focus right now of course besides um besides the protest itself i'm just
00:19:40.000 trying to garner um some uh you know put the word out there about that is building more of a dedicated
00:19:46.960 team we had a lot of people that have shown interest and wanting to help um but what's much harder to find
00:19:52.960 is people that are truly dedicated and reliable and mature and competent um to you know be just
00:20:02.000 part of the the overall um sorry i should say the core team and organizing or to organize the local
00:20:10.000 protests we're looking to have we do have some um and we're looking to keep finding uh local leaders
00:20:17.040 who are who can lead kind of groups in their city who are going to be you know really doing the
00:20:22.240 on the ground you know putting out posters and things like that right now people can go to take
00:20:26.800 back canada.info and they can um in the top bar there's a link uh to download posters and they can
00:20:33.200 download posters and start putting them up themselves um that's a big thing you can do to to help um
00:20:40.000 right away i i really believe in you know getting the word out in person i believe that you know online
00:20:48.080 was the internet was supposed to be you know the the way we all connect and get to reach out to each
00:20:54.480 other and definitely it's it's amazing for that in some ways but people also kind of build an echo
00:21:00.400 chamber chamber for themselves in terms of people they follow and um what they choose to see and then
00:21:06.080 the algorithms that will keep feeding the same things to them so um we really believe in on the ground
00:21:13.040 um tactics and and work and uh that's what i'm trying to foster here so if you're really interested
00:21:18.800 in um becoming part of leadership either at the the overall you know you can call it exec team level
00:21:27.200 although we're not so official yet um or you know starting your own local group or joining a local group
00:21:34.000 then please go to our website at the bottom there is a form you can fill out um and just indicate such
00:21:39.600 in uh in the form and we will uh we will get back to you and anyone watching this on youtube or
00:21:45.440 facebook or rumble will be able to find links to both the twitter page the x account uh for take
00:21:51.600 back canada and their website in the description of this video you kind of hinted at it a little bit
00:21:56.480 before that ethan but i want to ask you obviously the protest is just one part of this what what you're
00:22:02.720 trying to start do you have any plans for uh after canada day what what the plan is for what you want
00:22:08.000 to what you want to try to accomplish after the protest i mean we're not we're not stopping um
00:22:14.480 this this isn't just a july 1st protest so we don't have any other protests pennsyland any pennsyland
00:22:19.440 for any certain dates um but we certainly will i'll be holding more protests and i'm sure we'll learn
00:22:24.960 some lessons with how these ones go whether they're you know a shocking success that we can never
00:22:30.240 imagine or whether you know i show up to queen's park and i'm just sitting there with a sign um
00:22:34.880 um it uh it doesn't matter we won't be deterred so um definitely more protests but i believe in
00:22:43.120 you know being creative and finding other ways to to save our country and that really has to be the
00:22:47.600 goal that has to be the thought process is what can we do to save our country needs to be believed that
00:22:51.600 we can because again i believe that you know like i said before history is happening again and whether
00:22:58.400 people realize it or not and that is a very scary thing but it can also be a very hopeful thing for people
00:23:04.880 like well for majority of the majority of canadians i believe that kind of felt stuck in our political
00:23:09.680 system like that are you know just as the time has gone on our governments become less and less
00:23:14.320 responsive to you know the actual world of people as has been common in um most of the western world
00:23:21.200 um the fact that things are happening again that are significant is you know represents an opportunity
00:23:28.400 then that's we can actually affect change right now um i'm getting a little sidetracked uh
00:23:35.280 worries the last question i have for you i'm sorry i mean let me there was more i have to answer what
00:23:41.440 was the original question again let me just what your plan is what you want to do after the after
00:23:46.320 canada day yes so one of the other things that i think is really important is just educating people so
00:23:53.360 um doing door-to-door work um you know handing out pamphlets uh really you know i want to build a team
00:24:01.040 of people that um really understand the issues understand also just in general economics at a
00:24:08.400 at a very advanced level um and demographics and such and really for for our own sake understand the full
00:24:17.760 uh extent of you know what's going on and kind of projecting forward precisely what can be expected to happen
00:24:25.200 um given various scenarios um and how they will play out and you know from that educate people
00:24:34.240 um in the public and again i think that online is a terrible way to do that well it's it's not
00:24:40.640 it's a very important thing that you should do as well but i think that it has serious limitations
00:24:44.480 in terms of you know we've just been so conditioned to you know not trust what we see online if it
00:24:51.600 doesn't agree if it doesn't conform to our current worldview already and if it does then to trust it
00:24:57.360 absolutely um and i think there's just an air of dishonesty um when you see something online you just
00:25:03.840 don't trust it very much um so i think that you know on the ground um talking to people um door knocking
00:25:12.320 even just leaving uh pamphlets on at people's doors and things is uh is very important absolutely
00:25:19.120 and uh the last question i have for you it's sort of right back near to the beginning of our
00:25:23.920 conversation which was what was what was the moment that you decided you wanted to actually do something
00:25:29.680 and you wanted to take on the responsibility of of starting an organization to actually tackle this
00:25:35.920 issue because i think a lot of young canadians as you pointed out are feeling hopeless they are
00:25:41.440 lacking some direction they want to do something but they don't know where to start so for you what
00:25:44.960 was the what was the moment that you decided i'm going to do something and i'm going to try to fix this
00:25:50.080 country it was really um i i honestly almost couldn't tell you like i was for for so long just focused on
00:26:00.640 on my job and my life and you know trying to get by and trying to plan for the future and um
00:26:06.000 um you know uh just just my life and i just uh i i work right next to a diploma mill so i see some some
00:26:17.600 pretty shocking things um so it's been increasingly kind of in my face and one night i just got curious
00:26:26.160 started looking up um you know just what was going on and i was honestly shocked at how quickly our
00:26:34.240 population has gone up um i still can't believe we're at over 40 million people i think over 41 now
00:26:41.040 um and i just realized like oh this isn't getting any better um this isn't just a housing bubble that
00:26:50.480 we're in that's going to pop you know the the price of housing isn't right now primarily fueled by people
00:26:57.120 speculating on it as an asset although that is of course happening but it's it's basic supply and demand and
00:27:02.960 um the rate we're going it's never going to get better and you know just this general feeling of
00:27:12.320 understanding that these are not the the times ahead are not the peaceful happy times that i've
00:27:19.200 grown up in since since the day i was born and just kind of looking within myself am i going to
00:27:27.120 do anything about that or am i not going to do anything about that you know i think we all like
00:27:31.920 to look back at moments in history and think you know what would i have done i would have been like
00:27:36.960 like these people or joined that or whatever and i truly believe i find myself living in a in a moment
00:27:45.440 like that that might not you know fully feel that way to to people but i think it's i think people are
00:27:54.000 very quickly starting to realize that uh all is far far from well so that's that was kind of the moment
00:28:02.880 that was not that long ago that was um uh i would say mid may so uh yeah you're a fast worker well even
00:28:11.920 duggan thank you for speaking to us and i think a lot of canadians will want to see what happens they'll
00:28:18.080 want to get involved and i will certainly be at queen's park on canada day covering the protest so
00:28:24.800 even duggan thank you so much for coming on thank you