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- June 19, 2024
Nationwide anti-mass immigration protests planned for Canada Day
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well we all know that a majority of canadians agree that immigration in canada is far too high
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we also know that immigrants in canada want to see a limit on the number of immigrants that the
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trudeau government is taking in something they are clearly not doing at all right now immigration
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is the biggest issue facing our country right now it should be the leading issue heading in
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to the next federal election and quite frankly all of the other issues in our country are caused
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almost entirely by out of control open borders mass immigration in canada but the question is
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what are you going to do about this sure immigration is discussed online but our entire political class
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except for one political party the people's party of canada led by maxime bernier refuse to talk about
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immigration they seem afraid to talk about immigration now i believe that one of the reasons
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why no one is talking about this is that we as canadians have been sold out our interests the
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interests of our children and those of our future generations have been sold out by our politicians
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and our media for profit and for political victory so i ask again what are you going to do about this
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well our next guest is someone who has said enough is enough and he has decided to lead nationwide
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protests on canada day against mass immigration in this country and against our leadership who have
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brought this upon us well joining us now on the faulkner show is the leader of take back canada
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ethan duggan take back canada is a group that he started to provide a voice for the majority in this
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country who want to see immigration controlled even thank you so much for joining us thank you for
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having me so let's just jump right into this protest because i think a lot of canadians have been waiting
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for something like this a lot of canadians want to speak they want to have their voices heard and an
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opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder with their fellow canadians to address this issue
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take us through canada day what you have in mind and what you would like to see
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so i think you really um that's something important i think canadians are really looking for something
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and i was looking for some kind of movement you know i think it's um people are really kind of
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starting to realize that the direction this country is heading in is just catastrophic um people are
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starting to just wake up to the reality of the policies that are in place and the fact that we
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really don't you know young people like myself and people around my age don't feel like we have much
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of our future at least here in canada i personally don't know very many people that at least that i
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went to school with and such that aren't planning on leaving canada and i think that's tragic and
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um so yeah i felt much the same way i was looking for some kind of outlet something to join to take
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action and there just didn't seem to be much out there so um as the day started going by and you
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know i couldn't find anything um i started to think like well someone's gotta do something
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so um yeah here we are um in terms of what we're looking for on the the protests like
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it's really we're trying to keep this very open to people of you know all different political stripes
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um we're trying to very much be concentrated on the message of you know canadians did not consent to
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this you know corporate fueled mass immigration that we're currently having um you know it's not benefiting
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canadians it's very clearly profit driven by um by a pretty select um group of people in our country
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and our government's just not listening to us um you know people want one an election right now um
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because people are just so incredibly dissatisfied with uh with their government um in a democracy when
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it gets to this point there is a precedent that you're supposed to call an election
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um and in general our democracy is just not working like you know there's been so many polls on
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people's opinion on the matter and the exact numbers range but it's pretty consistently from
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what i've seen between 50 and 70 percent of canadians think we have too much immigration
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um and yet we have you know our politicians um saying things like you know the cost of the temporary uh
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immigrants is already baked in so let's make them permanent which is just you know i can't it's
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almost unimaginable that uh someone in a position of power in our country could think we're that stupid
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and say to us you know two plus two actually equals three it's like we're it's it's unbelievable
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um just the the state of our democracy um and i believe that the government that's in power
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has totally lost consent of the population to rule us in the beginning or to begin with i should say
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um and that's what the protest is about is um to make it known that canadians aren't going to be
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passive and just take this line down like they they typically have um we're not going to just sit
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around anymore while our future is completely sold out from under us um it's time for our political
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class to actually listen to us and understand that we're getting to the point we're ready to take
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action and so you know i don't think canada has ever taken that step obviously you've had protests
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before and it's been kind of more um you know specialized uh should say specialized it's been very specific
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um political groups of people that have organized but i don't think in a very long time we've had
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mass protests that represent um the will of the majority of canadians um so i think that needs to
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change and i is my hope that when the people in power see that there's growing unrest um they'll maybe get
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a little a little scared and um actually be responsive to the will of the people you've touched
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on an important part of which is of course that the majority are with you and the majority stand on
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the side of wanting to see immigration numbers lower in this country they want to have a controlled
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immigration system they don't want to have just basically what we have right now which is essentially
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open borders why why is it you think that this is being driven primarily by young people
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and also on top of that why is it that politicians even those that claim to be conservative and those
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that you know we know that the numbers on the conservative side of those who want to see a
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decrease in immigration are very high but yet we don't have political representation on this issue
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at a serious level of course we have the ppc but at an establishment level of the conservative party
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it seems to be a non-issue whereas in other countries in the world it is a mainstream issue
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let's just start with the political side of this why do you think that the conservative
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establishment in canada seem to have no interest in tackling this issue well i'll start with your
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your first question um which is you know why this is so driven by young people i think the answer is
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very clear it's young people that are losing out um you know all the people they have their investments
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they want their their real estate investments to do very well so you know and most of them have
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you know moved away into the country where they're not seeing like young people are in the cities because
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they need jobs and that's where the jobs are and so it's right in our faces and it's also our futures that
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are just being you know given away more or less just destroyed all so that's you know um a select number
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of massive corporations can have really cheap labor and people who own investment properties can you know
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see their investments grow massively um and also of course there's the the corporate investors like
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corporations that purchase um uh real estate um and i think that's why it's it's young people it's
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because we're the ones that have something at stake here and we're also the ones that are
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um living in the places where it's right in our faces um i think that's the reason for that
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in terms of the political representation i mean it's no secret like
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it's become such a taboo in our society and our culture and western culture in general um to talk
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about immigration you know the the term racism the term xenophobia gets thrown around with this and
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we're really at a state where you know it feels to a lot of people like it's not safe to just have
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a healthy discussion about the policies that affect all of our lives and affect our country
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um and i think that to some extent the uh the conservative party is is sensitive to that i've seen
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some people theorize that they're so ahead in the polls you know why touch immigration um but you
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know we've also seen videos of pierre povie um speaking like he's basically not going to do anything
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about the about the immigration issue in fact he's going to help people um bring over family members
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and um help people get their prs and stuff um i think that's horribly concerning um and i think that
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the conservatives if they think that they can you know operate that way when they get in power and
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have those policies and that people will kind of you know just vote for them and give them a chance
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and be content that maybe they'll do something while they continue to not do anything
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um you know just look at the look at the tories in the uk um now they might be looking to the tories
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in uk and thinking oh they have 14 years um just making fools out of their of their voters
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um so you know we can ride that that's about as long as any canadian government can hope to have
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in the first place um but i think that canadians see that example people are becoming a lot more
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politically aware of what's going on in the world around them and i don't think we're going to be
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tricked for this in the same way definitely nowhere near as long um if they if they do that so i think
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that they should uh you know at this point it's so sad so many canadians are hoping that the people
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they're voting for are being dishonest we hope that they're ignoring this issue and even you know
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saying they'll um do things that will worsen it um to get in power i think that's a horribly sad state
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of affairs that we have to hope our politicians are being dishonest i think they should grow up
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and they should be honest and not be afraid i think that honesty is the best policy
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you know do and say what you think is right yeah and don't be afraid right like why would we want
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to have a leader who is afraid of being called racist or xenophobic by people that hate him anyway
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right it's the media and the liberals and his opposition that are going to attack him that way
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but who cares they're the opposition they're they are going to attack you but this is the issue of the
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moment so i completely agree with you ethan why why are leaders there they i don't want to vote for
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someone who's afraid of being called names by his own political opposition i want to vote with for
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someone who has some courage now eventually and it's not it is eventual because it's just going to be
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what it is going to be people who protest against immigration on canada day there are going to be
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those that call it racist that say these guys are are uh you know they they don't want they don't want
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to have foreigners in the country they're they're stoking uh you know xenophobia how do you plan
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as a leader of this group to to tackle those accusations because you know they're going to come
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well i think it's i think it's clear first of all what i've noticed which has been really encouraging
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um and almost you know funny in a way is that some of the people that seem most serious about the cause
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when i'm out and i'm actually putting up posters um like in the city the people that come up to me are
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immigrants um some of them you know from 20 plus years ago some of them from just five years ago
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that you know tell me they they agree with the cause and they don't like what's going on right now
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um i think that i i really hope to have a lot of those type of folks show up um and you're totally
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right we we can't avoid that people are going to call us names we also can't avoid that there's going to
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be some genuinely distasteful people that come to this cause but i think that you know this belief
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that people have or this tendency people have to you know change their opinion because certain people
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that hold an opinion you know just the the general stance that this immigration policy is not working
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we need less immigration you know of course there's going to be people who hate immigrants hate people
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of of certain races that are going to agree with that sentiment but is that going to mean you know that
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you you run away from from what you believe personally because you're going to let those people
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um decide that just because you agree on some general point it's like we all we all drink water we all agree
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for the most part that i don't know let's say murderers should go to jail um i'm sure there's
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some really horrible people that also drink water and believe that murderers should go to jail but are
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you going to um associate that belief solely with those people and then um hold the opposite beliefs so
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i think that you know it's we're entering into a time that's going to get messy i think that people need
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to realize that this is the decade we've already seen it and i think covid was just kind of a coincidence
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and not really the cause of of this happening i think the 2020s is always the decade that history started again
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um i think you know that we've seen that in so many things i think the biggest thing is the war in ukraine
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was you know is something that people didn't think it was just unthinkable and then very quickly with that
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the unthinkable became reality and the um just the seemingly completely impossible became plausible
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and i think we're only going to see more and more of that um this decade and 2030s and the 2040s
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um i think this world that we've lived in since uh the collapse of the soya union of you know just
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the world feeling like a relatively safe place obviously history has happened 9 11 happened the wars in
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the middle east happened um you know not to belittle those but in terms of their effect on the world
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and especially their effect on us we don't understand the the western psyche the canadian psyche people
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don't get that history can still happen those massive events you you read about in uh in history books
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they're coming again that's a good point it's a good point because of course if this just continues
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if this if we just continue with this mass immigration agenda there will be a backlash which
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i don't think anyone wants to see it's not canadian it's not how we approach uh domestic issues in our
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country so it's now it is the right time and frankly it was it was a few years ago before it started but
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we're now at a point where politicians have to address this issue and put an end to it
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to stop bad things from happening no one wants to see a a serious backlash and unless this issue is
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taken seriously like like you are right now with take back canada things are going to get very very
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scary for for canadians now before the protest has already started you've already received pushback
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because your group was banned from reddit if i'm not mistaken what happened there why why did why
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did take back canada get get banned from reddit um and what have you guys done since to remedy that
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and to get your message out yeah so um that was i won't give them i won't dignify them by by naming
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them but uh there was a certain other group of people on reddit that made it their mission basically
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and we have receipts we have the uh the screenshots of them discussing it um people can i think it's
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they're floating around some other um somewhat adjacent subreddits a lot of people have seen but
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we got brigaded um we were you know we're we're all new to this um we're new to even starting a
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a subreddit and i was speaking to the owner of another subreddit recently um i didn't realize that
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you could actually make it so that when someone submits a post in your subreddit it doesn't get posted right
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away and you actually have to a moderate history review beforehand we were trying to moderate you
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know people who just post whatever and then we were going and trying to moderate after the fact
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we didn't have you know necessarily um the manpower to do that effectively um when people were brigading
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us and yeah there was some pretty important stuff on there um i believe certainly no it's hard to say
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i definitely imagine there was some genuinely um just unsavory people saying some unsavory things
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but most of it was just so outlandish and you know you can tell when someone's saying something
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to be as outrageous as possible that uh yeah it was mostly a result of brigading and then they
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um you know post that and then of course mass report and uh it is what it is um we're trying to get our
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message out in other ways um again this is i'm very new to this um the people that i've been
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able to build a bit of a team around are also completely new to this um we're we're trying
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we'll uh we'll have missteps we'll make mistakes we'll we'll um you know have setbacks but you know
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i know for myself that i'm i'm completely dedicated to this um the way i see it people in this country
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before me people that came before me they went to war and they put their lives on the line and they
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died many of them for this country and you know the least i can do is is this um absolutely and it
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sounds like this it sounds like this reddit this reddit banning had nothing obviously it was it was
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outside groups trying to sabotage what you were trying to do something that is genuinely important
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for the future of the country um and i i don't think i'm alone in saying that now where can canadians
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find out how to engage with this protest where can canadians uh either start one of these protests
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in their city using what you've built and using your um using your posters how can canadians interact
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with this so they can they can get involved themselves so first thing you can do is we just started our x
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accounts um uh at take back canada x um there's not not a lot on there right now but that's going to be
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kind of the main outlet that we that we put out news and then as well as our our website take back
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canada.info um our biggest focus right now of course besides um besides the protest itself i'm just
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trying to garner um some uh you know put the word out there about that is building more of a dedicated
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team we had a lot of people that have shown interest and wanting to help um but what's much harder to find
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is people that are truly dedicated and reliable and mature and competent um to you know be just
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part of the the overall um sorry i should say the core team and organizing or to organize the local
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protests we're looking to have we do have some um and we're looking to keep finding uh local leaders
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who are who can lead kind of groups in their city who are going to be you know really doing the
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on the ground you know putting out posters and things like that right now people can go to take
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back canada.info and they can um in the top bar there's a link uh to download posters and they can
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download posters and start putting them up themselves um that's a big thing you can do to to help um
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right away i i really believe in you know getting the word out in person i believe that you know online
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was the internet was supposed to be you know the the way we all connect and get to reach out to each
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other and definitely it's it's amazing for that in some ways but people also kind of build an echo
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chamber chamber for themselves in terms of people they follow and um what they choose to see and then
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the algorithms that will keep feeding the same things to them so um we really believe in on the ground
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um tactics and and work and uh that's what i'm trying to foster here so if you're really interested
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in um becoming part of leadership either at the the overall you know you can call it exec team level
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although we're not so official yet um or you know starting your own local group or joining a local group
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then please go to our website at the bottom there is a form you can fill out um and just indicate such
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in uh in the form and we will uh we will get back to you and anyone watching this on youtube or
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facebook or rumble will be able to find links to both the twitter page the x account uh for take
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back canada and their website in the description of this video you kind of hinted at it a little bit
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before that ethan but i want to ask you obviously the protest is just one part of this what what you're
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trying to start do you have any plans for uh after canada day what what the plan is for what you want
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to what you want to try to accomplish after the protest i mean we're not we're not stopping um
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this this isn't just a july 1st protest so we don't have any other protests pennsyland any pennsyland
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for any certain dates um but we certainly will i'll be holding more protests and i'm sure we'll learn
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some lessons with how these ones go whether they're you know a shocking success that we can never
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imagine or whether you know i show up to queen's park and i'm just sitting there with a sign um
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um it uh it doesn't matter we won't be deterred so um definitely more protests but i believe in
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you know being creative and finding other ways to to save our country and that really has to be the
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goal that has to be the thought process is what can we do to save our country needs to be believed that
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we can because again i believe that you know like i said before history is happening again and whether
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people realize it or not and that is a very scary thing but it can also be a very hopeful thing for people
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like well for majority of the majority of canadians i believe that kind of felt stuck in our political
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system like that are you know just as the time has gone on our governments become less and less
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responsive to you know the actual world of people as has been common in um most of the western world
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um the fact that things are happening again that are significant is you know represents an opportunity
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then that's we can actually affect change right now um i'm getting a little sidetracked uh
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worries the last question i have for you i'm sorry i mean let me there was more i have to answer what
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was the original question again let me just what your plan is what you want to do after the after
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canada day yes so one of the other things that i think is really important is just educating people so
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um doing door-to-door work um you know handing out pamphlets uh really you know i want to build a team
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of people that um really understand the issues understand also just in general economics at a
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at a very advanced level um and demographics and such and really for for our own sake understand the full
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uh extent of you know what's going on and kind of projecting forward precisely what can be expected to happen
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um given various scenarios um and how they will play out and you know from that educate people
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um in the public and again i think that online is a terrible way to do that well it's it's not
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it's a very important thing that you should do as well but i think that it has serious limitations
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in terms of you know we've just been so conditioned to you know not trust what we see online if it
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doesn't agree if it doesn't conform to our current worldview already and if it does then to trust it
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absolutely um and i think there's just an air of dishonesty um when you see something online you just
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don't trust it very much um so i think that you know on the ground um talking to people um door knocking
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even just leaving uh pamphlets on at people's doors and things is uh is very important absolutely
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and uh the last question i have for you it's sort of right back near to the beginning of our
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conversation which was what was what was the moment that you decided you wanted to actually do something
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and you wanted to take on the responsibility of of starting an organization to actually tackle this
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issue because i think a lot of young canadians as you pointed out are feeling hopeless they are
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lacking some direction they want to do something but they don't know where to start so for you what
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was the what was the moment that you decided i'm going to do something and i'm going to try to fix this
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country it was really um i i honestly almost couldn't tell you like i was for for so long just focused on
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on my job and my life and you know trying to get by and trying to plan for the future and um
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um you know uh just just my life and i just uh i i work right next to a diploma mill so i see some some
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pretty shocking things um so it's been increasingly kind of in my face and one night i just got curious
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started looking up um you know just what was going on and i was honestly shocked at how quickly our
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population has gone up um i still can't believe we're at over 40 million people i think over 41 now
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um and i just realized like oh this isn't getting any better um this isn't just a housing bubble that
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we're in that's going to pop you know the the price of housing isn't right now primarily fueled by people
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speculating on it as an asset although that is of course happening but it's it's basic supply and demand and
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um the rate we're going it's never going to get better and you know just this general feeling of
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understanding that these are not the the times ahead are not the peaceful happy times that i've
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grown up in since since the day i was born and just kind of looking within myself am i going to
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do anything about that or am i not going to do anything about that you know i think we all like
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to look back at moments in history and think you know what would i have done i would have been like
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like these people or joined that or whatever and i truly believe i find myself living in a in a moment
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like that that might not you know fully feel that way to to people but i think it's i think people are
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very quickly starting to realize that uh all is far far from well so that's that was kind of the moment
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that was not that long ago that was um uh i would say mid may so uh yeah you're a fast worker well even
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duggan thank you for speaking to us and i think a lot of canadians will want to see what happens they'll
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want to get involved and i will certainly be at queen's park on canada day covering the protest so
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even duggan thank you so much for coming on thank you
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