Juno News - January 07, 2025


NON-CITIZENS, FOREIGN ACTORS can CHOOSE Trudeau’s SUCCESSOR & next PM


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19 minutes

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178.74066

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3,571

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218

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 By now, you know that Justin Trudeau has announced his intention to resign, but you
00:00:05.120 might not know just how precarious of a position it leaves Canada in. We have no one to negotiate
00:00:12.000 with Donald Trump ahead of the looming threat of tariffs. And now, there's stunning revelations
00:00:17.360 about the threat of foreign interference, as well as the fact that people who aren't Canadian
00:00:22.400 citizens can vote for the next Liberal leader and the next Prime Minister of Canada. Joining
00:00:28.560 me today to discuss is Brian Lilly of the Toronto Sun. I'm Rachel Parker. Welcome back to the Rachel Parker Show.
00:00:51.760 Hey Brian, thanks for joining the show again today. I want to start by asking you right off the hop,
00:00:56.720 you've been pretty vocal online, that you are not happy with the announcement that Justin Trudeau
00:01:02.560 made on Monday morning because of the situation that it puts Canada in as we seek to negotiate with
00:01:07.760 these tariffs and Donald Trump. Can you explain that a bit further? Well, we're in the worst possible
00:01:15.120 position. We have a lame duck Prime Minister who is going to be, what, the one negotiating
00:01:21.200 with Donald Trump who is going to be inaugurated in less than two weeks now. Trump has said starting
00:01:28.160 day one, 25% tariffs on all Canadian goods unless we do something about our border. Well, what can we
00:01:35.120 do about our border? Danielle Smith in Alberta has come up with some ideas. Francois Legault in Quebec has
00:01:41.040 some ideas. Even Wab Canoo in Manitoba has sent conservation officers down to patrol, I think, down
00:01:48.960 around Emerson. But, you know, the border is a federal responsibility and we do not have a functioning
00:01:56.640 government at the moment. Now, in the fall economic statement, they promised 1.3 billion dollars
00:02:02.640 in new funding over five years for border measures. Guess what? That money has not been voted on.
00:02:08.080 That appropriation has not gone through Parliament. Can they even spend it? And, you know, is Trump
00:02:16.240 going to take Trudeau seriously? He's announced he's leaving. So who does Trump negotiate with? Who
00:02:22.080 does his team negotiate with? The finance minister, current finance minister, Dominic LeBlanc, who's also
00:02:30.160 in charge of border issues, he's looking at a leadership run. Half of Trudeau's cabinet is going to
00:02:35.760 look at a leadership run. We will not have an effective functioning government for the next six
00:02:42.240 months as we deal with a very real threat to our economy. What we needed was an election, but we
00:02:50.000 also needed that a little while ago so that there would be someone in Ottawa with a mandate to actually
00:02:56.080 negotiate with Trump to talk to the incoming U.S. President with some authority.
00:03:03.760 So you think rather than announcing his intention to resign and provoking Parliament, Trudeau simply
00:03:10.160 should have asked the Governor General for an election on Monday?
00:03:12.720 Absolutely. And we could have gotten that over with quickly. We would have a new government in
00:03:18.800 place by early March. Now, you know, my calculations, and you can hear me out on this, there's even a
00:03:25.920 nightmare scenario where Justin Trudeau still runs in the next election. But I'm thinking the earliest
00:03:33.520 we could have a functioning government is one elected by May and then, you know, in place, sworn in
00:03:39.520 and everything by early June. That's not a good scenario. And think about this. We don't know when the
00:03:46.560 liberals are going to have their leadership race. We, you know, I think that they're going to try and
00:03:52.640 have the leadership race before the House comes back on March 24th. I was speaking with my friend and
00:03:58.880 colleague, Warren Kinsella, who has a bit of experience in running liberal leadership races in
00:04:03.280 election campaigns. And he says, there's no way that the party can actually do that. They're writing
00:04:09.440 associations across the country have fallen apart because of the way the party runs now, this cult of
00:04:14.560 personality around Trudeau. There's no infrastructure to run a leadership race anymore. And so he thinks
00:04:20.800 it'll be passed March 24th before they pick a leader. Let's say that happens. The government
00:04:26.160 comes back on March 24th because they have to pass a spending bill. Government runs out of money on March
00:04:31.760 31st. So there's going to be a confidence vote on the spending bill. The conservatives will have an
00:04:40.000 opposition day. Well, that will be a motion of non-confidence and they don't need to vote on the
00:04:45.440 speech from the throne. That's optional. But if they do, that's confidence vote. So two, possibly
00:04:51.840 three confidence votes in that first week, they come back. If they come back with Justin Trudeau as
00:04:56.640 their leader, there's no way that anybody's making a deal with them. The NDP is not going to cut a deal.
00:05:01.600 The bloc has already said they're voting the government down. So Justin Trudeau is still prime
00:05:05.440 minister and we head into an election because they can't get their shit together, as Pierre
00:05:11.920 Paulieff said to Jordan Peterson recently. Just quickly going back to the tariffs, you know,
00:05:17.840 with Canada really lacking in lead negotiator on this front now, is there any hope of Canada avoiding
00:05:23.280 these tariffs when Trump's inauguration becomes official on January 20th? Unless Trump is in a good
00:05:31.120 mood unless he suddenly feels like, oh, well, let's be nice to Canada. I don't see it. I don't think
00:05:39.760 that we've put enough in the window so far in terms of being able to show that we're serious on this.
00:05:48.400 There have been some overtures about what, as I said, provinces will do and a little bit about what
00:05:55.200 the feds will do. But all that is up in the air right now. And we know that Trump likes to find
00:06:01.520 weakness and seek out weakness. And right now, we are very weak because, as Danielle Smith put it,
00:06:08.400 of Trudeau's incredibly selfish actions.
00:06:14.320 So you've raised a lot of the concerns over Justin Trudeau perot in parliament. I know most
00:06:18.560 Canadians were pretty unhappy with the announcement that he made on Monday. I think people were expecting
00:06:22.640 a resignation and said we got an intent to resign, plus the prorogation. Some people that I've spoken
00:06:27.360 to have also said there is a positive side to this because there was so much harmful legislation that
00:06:33.280 was before the House that is now dead in the water that will have to be reintroduced, including the
00:06:37.440 capital gains tax. Is there a positive thing? No. The capital gains tax changes are going through.
00:06:46.720 It would make sense that because of prorogation,
00:06:49.520 they wouldn't go through. But I checked with CRA and I said, my understanding is you're still going
00:06:54.640 to go forward with this. And they sent a long detailed explanation. And I can understand their
00:07:00.720 logic behind it, but I still fundamentally disagree with it. But let me back up. So the capital gains
00:07:06.400 changes were announced in the budget, I believe. Then they were supposed to take effect June 25th.
00:07:12.960 They didn't table their ways and means motion until September 23rd. Then parliament was seized with
00:07:19.360 the green slush fund scandal and the question of privilege. So no government business was done
00:07:23.600 until the tabling of the fall economic statement. So the ways and means motion has never been voted on.
00:07:29.760 In my view, that means that it's not passed. It's not legal. And now that the House is probed, it dies.
00:07:36.400 CRA says that their longstanding tradition is that they act as if the tax changes are in effect as soon
00:07:48.320 as the ways and means motion is tabled. And that that has been going on for across governments of
00:07:56.400 all stripes and for years, uh, year upon year. So they are still going to act as if that one is, uh,
00:08:04.480 is going forward. Um, an awful lot of people are going to be upset about that, but I just wanted
00:08:09.680 to get that out there. That's still going forward. Online harms bill that's done.
00:08:16.000 So generally seems like we're in a very bad state in Canada. Sure. There's some legislation that Canadians
00:08:20.960 were not pleased about that. Certainly conservatives weren't happy about that will die, but generally seems
00:08:24.880 like we're not in a good scenario. I want to talk to you a little bit about the liberal leadership race.
00:08:29.600 Do you have any idea currently who's going to be putting their names forward in that race?
00:08:34.560 Uh, I can tell you that, uh, Chrystia Freeland has been, um, getting the backing of some old, uh,
00:08:41.200 liberal MPs and, uh, and, and party stalwarts from the Chrétien Martin era. Um, Christy Clark has hired
00:08:48.320 Don guy, a Toronto based, uh, strategist and campaigner who's, um, you know, had success at
00:08:54.400 both, both federal and provincial levels over the years. Um, well-connected guy within the liberal
00:09:00.320 party. She held a, a conference call on Monday night with a hundred different liberal organizers
00:09:06.480 across the country. So that's pretty impressive. Um, her support base would be, uh, in Western Canada
00:09:13.200 rather than in Toronto, but obviously pulling some from Ontario. Now, when I say Western Canada,
00:09:19.840 of course, you know, the liberal party is not a big going concern where you are in Alberta, but
00:09:25.920 British Columbia was key to Justin Trudeau's victories. Um, and, uh, it is always key to the
00:09:33.680 liberal party in trying to, uh, uh, form a majority government. So, uh, Clark would be a, uh, you know,
00:09:41.680 a viable candidate there. We know that Mark Carney is, is pausing to think about it, but now he's
00:09:48.000 having people post photos of him saying, oh, look, he's handing it with, uh, Ghislaine Maxwell. Uh,
00:09:52.880 you'll have to explain that. Um, you know, or, or explain that it's not her. I, I have no idea,
00:10:00.080 but I'm seeing him be bombarded with that. Why Mark Carney would give up the life he has, uh, earning
00:10:05.840 megabucks to, uh, uh, pontificate about the need for, uh, uh, green climate initiatives in order to
00:10:13.680 get into the muck of, uh, political mud wrangling. I have no clue, but you're going to have a bunch of
00:10:19.440 also rands in there. Uh, Anita and Anne, um, you know, lovely lady, it seems, but, uh, you know,
00:10:26.480 she doesn't have the, the political, um, clout or the political chops to be able to pull off a
00:10:32.400 leadership race. So there's going to be a lot of also rands and we'll have to wait and see what the,
00:10:37.200 uh, what the voting rules even are. I mean, we know the crazy part of the voting rules.
00:10:41.600 We know that a 14 year old Chinese exchange student in Toronto can go vote. And we know
00:10:46.720 that because of the foreign interference scandal. So I, but we don't know when the leadership race
00:10:52.480 will be, when it will start, when you have to have a membership by things like that. Um,
00:10:58.160 I just expect a lot of foreign interference. I know we're getting the,
00:11:02.080 the Hogue commission report at the end of this month, uh, into past foreign interference.
00:11:07.600 There's going to be a whole new chapter on the liberal leadership race. If they'll interfere
00:11:11.600 with Han Dong's nomination in Don Valley in Toronto, what do you think they're going to do? Or what
00:11:17.040 India will do or Russia or Hamas supporters will do, uh, in rallying to Melanie Jolie, uh, if,
00:11:24.400 if they can help pick the next, uh, prime minister of Canada, leader of a G7 country.
00:11:29.840 Yeah. I want to touch on this foreign interference a little bit more because you reported this morning
00:11:35.360 that a teenager who's not even a Canadian citizen can vote in the liberal leadership race. Is this
00:11:40.800 solely due to foreign interference or does the liberal party need to clean up their leadership
00:11:46.880 rules a little bit more and maybe have some more safeguards around them to ensure that it's
00:11:50.240 actual Canadian citizens who are voting in this contest?
00:11:53.040 I, I think all the parties need to, and I'm now in a position that I wouldn't have been several
00:11:59.440 years ago before the foreign interference, uh, revelations. I think that we need to have
00:12:06.480 Elections Canada have a bit of say in, in how party nominations are held. Uh, before I would have said,
00:12:14.880 no, it's a, it's a private club. You don't need to, to get Elections Canada involved. You don't need more
00:12:20.400 bureaucracy, but they've all got some pretty strange rules. I think for the conservatives,
00:12:25.760 you can vote in a, uh, a leadership race or a nomination at the age of 16, but I believe
00:12:31.680 you have to be a citizen. I think you have to be a citizen in the NDP as well. Uh, excuse me,
00:12:39.200 for the liberals, you just need to be 14 years of age, 14 and ordinarily reside in the riding that
00:12:47.280 you want to vote in. Well, in Don Valley, they had Chinese students at high school and college
00:12:53.760 students who were bused in to and told by the Chinese consulate who to vote for. Of course,
00:12:59.680 that same sort of thing is going to happen in a national leadership race and it's going to happen
00:13:04.880 in the oddest places. And now we've got foreign students everywhere. I mean, there's going to be
00:13:09.120 people who will, you know, we've seen the protest people saying, we don't want to, um, uh, we don't
00:13:15.760 want to, uh, go home when our visas expire. Okay. All those students, including in far off ridings,
00:13:23.200 this is how you win a leadership race, by the way, it's a hundred points per riding, just like the
00:13:27.120 conservatives. And then those points are allotted. You take over one of these defunct, um, uh,
00:13:33.280 uh, local riding associations. And there's a hundred points up for grabs. You could just
00:13:39.200 sign up 25 people. They may be the only 25 members. You're going to get all hundred points
00:13:43.760 for your candidate. And all of them could be people who aren't citizens in Canada.
00:13:49.520 How do we allow this to happen? In this case, not only are they voting in a national leadership
00:13:55.600 contest, but they're also voting for the next prime minister. So how is this even legal that you
00:14:00.480 can vote while not being a Canadian citizen? Because we don't have, um, rules around,
00:14:07.040 uh, party nominations. Uh, it's considered a private organization and, uh, it's not considered
00:14:13.360 the same as a general election. Uh, I think we're seeing the problem with that now, the folly of it.
00:14:19.920 And, and it needs to change. I think the rules should be the same as a general election. You need to be a
00:14:26.000 Canadian citizen. Um, and you need to live where you're voting. Um, and you should be 18 years of
00:14:32.800 age. We, we need to change this and, and make it that way for all the parties. If you want to,
00:14:38.000 to contest in a federal election, then you should follow the, the same rules as a federal election
00:14:44.880 in your nomination races. Wow. Brian, thank you so much. There's clearly some shocking implications
00:14:51.360 that I think I hadn't necessarily thought of when, uh, Trudeau announced, um, that he was
00:14:55.760 resigning and the leadership race on Monday morning. And I know for Canadians, uh, very informative,
00:15:00.000 but certainly a lot to be concerned about here. So thank you very much. Thank you.
00:15:04.800 Okay. Again, that was Brian Lilly of the Toronto Sun. Certainly some very serious implications about the
00:15:10.160 people that will be choosing the next prime minister of Canada. Now, of course we would be
00:15:15.440 remiss on a day like today, if we didn't cover some of the hilarious media reactions to Trudeau's
00:15:22.480 resignation and CB CBC was in mourning, basically all day, Monday. I've been busy today. I haven't
00:15:28.800 checked back, but I'm sure it's about the same. They had a number of panels. Everyone seemed very eager
00:15:34.400 to praise the departing leader. And here is the NDP's former director of communications talking
00:15:40.720 about what a wonderful man Jess Trudeau was. He's done some really good things for, for this country.
00:15:45.920 He's done some, um, really good things for people. I will forever love dental care. And I know,
00:15:51.360 you know, I'll say the NDP pushed that, but, but he delivered on it, right? That is a reality.
00:15:55.280 People that I love are getting dental care because, you know, something that the prime minister does,
00:15:58.800 did. So regardless of all of this thing that's happened lately and, and where we are at with
00:16:04.720 caucus, um, I think people will remember him kindly. He wasn't mean spirited. He wasn't,
00:16:10.080 you know, punching to punch. Um, and, and I think that's really important in our leaders
00:16:14.080 and it's not always the case. So, um, uh, maybe that, that's what I'll, I'll say about the prime
00:16:18.960 minister. I think, uh, folks will remember him for the kind things that he did and, and he did have
00:16:23.040 an impact, a positive impact. Do you guys remember Justin Trudeau for the kind things that he did?
00:16:30.400 Kind? I can think of a lot of words to describe Justin Trudeau, but kind certainly isn't one of
00:16:35.840 them. The thing that comes to my head is maybe when he called us all a radical fringe minority
00:16:40.480 with unacceptable views. Was that kind? That's not an example of punching down, is it? Hmm.
00:16:48.320 Just some, some food for thought for you all. I'm sure you'll have your own thoughts.
00:16:52.640 Then another clip that I wanted to play for you all. I felt like this one was very interesting
00:16:56.560 because I think it reveals a lot about Americans attitudes toward Canada. One of the things that
00:17:02.160 we've seen a lot in the American news is the Americans are saying, oh, Justin Trudeau left
00:17:07.520 shortly after his meeting with Donald Trump and Donald Trump caused Justin Trudeau to resign.
00:17:12.560 Now I was just talking about this with my producer, Sean. I think most of you are familiar
00:17:16.320 with him from his days on the Andrew Lawton show. And you know, certainly Donald Trump
00:17:21.760 was an extra layer and added stress to a prime minister was already hanging by a thread. There's
00:17:27.360 that correlation. There's already obvious, but the conditions that caused Justin Trudeau to
00:17:33.680 announce his intentions to resign on Monday morning were already there. They've been there for about a
00:17:40.000 year, maybe even a year and a half now. So Justin has long been on his way out and sure we can thank
00:17:45.520 Donald Trump for being maybe that added layer of stress that finally, you know, was the nail in
00:17:50.640 the coffin. But those conditions that caused Trudeau to leave, that's multifaceted. That already
00:17:55.600 existed. I think a lot of Americans are not really willing to look at all those reasons probably just
00:18:01.280 because, you know, tend to be less informed on another nation. But here is a Fox business host
00:18:06.720 asking Danielle Smith if Canadians really want radical change or if we're pretty much going to want par for
00:18:11.920 the course like we saw with Justin Trudeau. And take a listen to the premier's response.
00:18:16.480 And forgive me for being a cynic. I've watched what's happened in Canada now for several years.
00:18:21.600 And to me, it seems like a stretch that the Canadian people are going to choose a radically
00:18:27.360 different route than the one they've been going down. Do you really believe with new leadership,
00:18:32.480 Canada could turn the corner in a way that, you know, America sort of seemed to do in this last
00:18:38.240 election? One of the things I would ask, I don't know if you had the chance to see, but who I think
00:18:44.160 is our future Prime Minister, Pierre Polyev, was just on Jordan Peterson's podcast, got 40 million
00:18:49.920 views. So I think that that tells you something about what he has tapped into. And I think it's a
00:18:54.560 very, again, it's the parallel track that we've been going on seeing that the Americans have had enough
00:18:59.440 with the wokeism, with the punitive measures, with the unaffordability. And I would say that
00:19:04.160 in a few months' time, you're probably going to see Prime Minister Pierre Polyev. And if that does
00:19:08.080 happen, then our Conservative province will have a partner in being able to do development. We'll
00:19:14.320 have a partner in building pipelines. We'll have a partner in development. We'll have a partner in
00:19:17.680 productivity growth. And we'll have a partnership, I think, that will be a really strong ally of the
00:19:22.960 United States. So if the Americans can wait just a few months, I think you're going to see quite a
00:19:27.600 dramatic turn in this country.
00:19:29.040 Very well said. All I have to say is that I hope she's right. Okay, everyone, that's all we have
00:19:36.160 time for today on The Rachel Parker Show. It was great to get back into it. Let me know what you
00:19:41.520 think in the comments section below. Did you know about the risk of foreign interference in the liberal
00:19:46.400 leadership race? Did you know that non-Canadian citizens can vote for the next Prime Minister of
00:19:52.560 Canada? What do you think about it all? I'll be sure to get to some of your comments next week.
00:19:56.160 Have a good one. I'll see you guys tomorrow. And God bless.