Juno News - September 24, 2021


O'Toole was weak and dishonest to run as a progressive


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In this episode, Candice explains why she and The Candace Malcolm Show have been much more critical than usual of the Conservatives and their leadership candidate, Aaron O'Toole. She also explains why the legacy media is so unfair to Conservatives and why they should be proud of their values.

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00:00:00.000 Aaron O'Toole misrepresented who he was to Conservative members. He promised that he was
00:00:04.080 true blue and then he ran a campaign as a weak-willed red Tory who refused to stand his
00:00:08.420 ground or defend Canada. I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:16.740 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning into the podcast today. Now, you probably noticed that
00:00:20.980 we here at True North and here at The Candace Malcolm Show have been much more critical than
00:00:25.520 usual of the Conservatives and of Aaron O'Toole. Now, I know that much of the reason why people
00:00:30.580 like this program, like this channel, the reason that you tune into True North is because we don't
00:00:35.660 typically take an overly critical view of Conservatives. That's what the legacy media
00:00:39.580 does. The legacy media is there day in, day out to criticize Conservatives, to show their double
00:00:44.580 standard, to push liberal talking points, push the liberal worldview, push liberal wedge issues,
00:00:49.240 and basically do Dustin Trudeau's dirty work. We're different. We give Conservatives a fair shot. We
00:00:54.440 try to remain open-minded and we don't innately have a bias or a bigotry against Conservatives. So
00:01:01.580 much the legacy media, deep down, those journalists hate Conservatives. They don't like Conservative
00:01:06.080 values. They don't like Conservative people. They don't want those values represented in their
00:01:10.460 Parliament, in their government, in their society. And that is why they're so unfair to Conservatives.
00:01:15.420 Here at True North, we disagree. We like Conservative values. We think that Conservative values are Canadian
00:01:20.540 values and that is incredibly important to show both sides. So yes, so to people who like True North,
00:01:27.080 because we're typically more fair to Conservatives, and they wonder this week, why is Candace, why is 0.98
00:01:32.180 True North being so unfair to Conservatives? It's for that exact reason. We want to see a Conservative
00:01:38.000 Party that is strong, a Conservative Party that is Conservative. There's no point in having two Liberal
00:01:42.560 Parties. And so the reason that we are being critical of Erin O'Toole and of the Conservative Party is
00:01:47.960 because we hope that they will listen and we hope that they will learn that the way that you win an
00:01:51.800 election in Canada is not to apologize for Conservatives. It's not to back away from your
00:01:56.540 Conservative values. It's not to flip-flop and change your mind and look indecisive and look weak.
00:02:01.840 The way to win as a Conservative is to own it, is to be proud of it, to push common sense, to push your
00:02:08.740 values and to not appear like you're unsure or that you're afraid or that you're embarrassed or that
00:02:15.140 you're trying to hide something. And that is the reason why we are being critical in this week after
00:02:20.920 the election. Hopefully we can all move past this stronger. So I want to go back in time a little
00:02:26.460 bit on the program today and I want to talk about how Erin O'Toole became leader of this party, how he
00:02:32.980 became the leader and what he did in order to get there. So recall that after Andrew Scheer stepped
00:02:38.660 down from leader in 2019, there was a leadership race to replace him as leader of the Conservative
00:02:44.000 Party. There were four main candidates that emerged sort of as a front runner. So we had Peter McKay,
00:02:49.820 who is a very high profile politician from Nova Scotia. He was a cabinet minister in the Harper
00:02:56.460 government and he was sort of known as one of the leaders of the Progressive Conservative Party that
00:03:01.840 merged with the Canadian Alliance to create the new iteration, which was the Conservative Party of
00:03:06.560 Canada. He was a central figure in that. So he comes from the PC side of the party, the Progressive
00:03:12.760 Conservative side. He is a well-known red Tory. Other candidates, we had Erin O'Toole and we'll get
00:03:18.360 into him in a moment. Next, we had Leslie Lewis, who's a tremendous candidate. She's very well educated, 0.99
00:03:24.120 very articulate, social conservative. She's from Toronto. She's from an immigrant family and community
00:03:29.160 and she was great. But the problem with Leslie Lewis is that she was unknown to Conservatives. She
00:03:35.580 didn't have a deep history in the party, a little bit inexperienced and that kind of came out a little
00:03:40.120 bit during the campaign. And no one really knew if she had what it would take to win. And finally,
00:03:45.480 we had Derek Sloan, who is a social conservative. He was really seen as being strong on some of the
00:03:51.580 issues. However, it became very apparent through his campaign that he was irresponsible. He was
00:03:57.080 selfish and a bit of a loose cannon. He really didn't have what it took. And because of it, just
00:04:02.020 shortly after he lost, he ended up leaving the conservative caucus and moving to Alberta, running a bizarre
00:04:07.720 independent campaign and basically got no support whatsoever. So he shot himself in the foot and he is
00:04:13.900 out of the picture. But back to the leadership race. So we had these two social conservative candidates 0.69
00:04:20.600 that each had their own flaws. And then we had these two sort of more experienced candidates, former cabinet
00:04:25.960 ministers, both of them, both Erin O'Toole and Peter McKay. They're both from Atlantic Canada originally.
00:04:30.800 They're both from political families. Both their dads were politicians and conservative politicians,
00:04:36.380 representatives. And they're both sort of seen as red Tories. So for conservative voters,
00:04:41.240 they didn't really have a very strong option. There wasn't an obvious apparent leader out of the bunch.
00:04:48.080 It was sort of a given that probably Peter McKay would win just because he had the most name
00:04:52.260 recognition. And he had this sort of well-known political pedigree of sort of like the conservative
00:04:57.460 version of Justin Trudeau. And that is when Erin O'Toole sort of emerged as a realistic option. 0.84
00:05:05.020 He is a former military man. He seemed like he was really strong on law and order, a fiscal conservative.
00:05:11.540 He was obviously not a social conservative. He made it very clear from the beginning that he was
00:05:16.160 not pro-life, that he would not put any restrictions whatsoever on abortion. However, he did claim that
00:05:23.340 he would respect the beliefs of social conservatives, that there would be room for them in the party,
00:05:28.580 which at the time was better than Peter McKay. Peter McKay kind of came out there and said that
00:05:32.780 the reason that Andrew Scheer lost the election was because of his conservative values, his social
00:05:37.180 conservative values. And that was a problem to Peter McKay. Whereas Erin O'Toole proposed the other
00:05:43.360 side and said, no, there's room. There's a big tent. There's room for these people in my party. And that
00:05:48.780 was the reason why he won. That was the reason why he won. He presented himself as true blue. He was
00:05:54.620 strong on some of the issues. He was adamantly opposed to a carbon tax. He talked about balancing
00:06:00.420 the budget. He presented himself as a conservative. This is what Erin O'Toole looked like back in 2020 0.96
00:06:06.640 when he was running for leader of this party. Who's going to defend our history, our institutions
00:06:11.420 against attacks from cancel culture and the radical left?
00:06:14.680 I am a proud conservative. I've fought on a range of issues from military and veterans
00:06:21.020 to foreign affairs, public safety, and certainly the economy. I'm Erin O'Toole and I'm running
00:06:26.660 to unite conservatives on the path to victory. I'm not a career politician. I'm not a product
00:06:32.840 of the Ottawa bubble. Politics, he is a principled conservative. He doesn't run away from a fight.
00:06:38.700 He doesn't get intimidated by the left or the media. I'm pretty blue on all elements.
00:06:44.680 I do respect human rights and the decisions of our courts.
00:06:48.700 A plan to get serious on public safety, support the rule of law, and end the unfair demonization
00:06:54.320 of law-abiding firearms arms.
00:07:00.240 So that was Erin O'Toole 18 months ago. And the Erin O'Toole that emerged on the campaign trail in the 1.00
00:07:06.960 past six weeks was a different person. He was a different, he had a different set of priorities.
00:07:12.420 He spoke differently. He was talking about different things. And that is a problem that
00:07:16.960 so many conservatives are having right now with Erin O'Toole. It's not so much that he ran as a
00:07:21.520 red Tory. Look, there's room for red Tories in the party. And when I say red Tory, it's not even really
00:07:25.480 clear what this term means anymore because it used to mean someone who came from the progressive
00:07:29.360 conservative wing of the party, the old party that was sort of more big government. They were okay
00:07:34.140 with big spending. They were sort of more socialist on the economic front. And then, you know, they were
00:07:40.560 conservative because of just party loyalty. You know, perhaps they believed in law and order,
00:07:47.700 these kind of things. And then it really kind of changed to mean that a red Tory was someone who
00:07:52.880 was liberal on social issues and moral issues. They were pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, all the
00:07:59.000 same kind of things that the liberals on the left were. But then maybe they were fiscally conservative.
00:08:03.940 And that was sort of what a red Tory was. Today, it's not even really clear what it means. It seems
00:08:08.940 like the whole party is in support of gay marriage now. And that abortion issue is not going away.
00:08:13.700 There's people who really morally oppose to abortion. And then other people who just really
00:08:18.580 don't care about the issue and they don't want to talk about it. They don't want it to be central in
00:08:21.940 the campaign. They just want it to go away. And because of that, they'll just sort of mirror the
00:08:26.120 liberal talking points on that issue. So this term red Tory, it's not even really clear in today's
00:08:31.780 landscape. Like, is a red Tory woke? Are they far left? Do they believe that little kids should be
00:08:38.340 getting hormone treatments to change their gender? Like, these are questions that haven't really been
00:08:44.060 addressed. But back to Aaron O'Toole. The problem with him in this campaign was the fact that he had
00:08:50.060 presented himself as the real deal, as a real conservative. And then as soon as the writs were
00:08:54.960 drawn up and he started speaking, it became really clear that his strategy was to basically hug the
00:09:00.580 liberals, show the Canadian public that he was very much a liberal. And that the main difference
00:09:05.640 between him and Trudeau was that he was just more competent, a better manager. And so he would
00:09:10.500 continue to promote Justin Trudeau's vision for the country. He would just be a better manager of
00:09:15.340 that government. And that's why he failed. That's why he lost the election, because he really just
00:09:18.860 didn't provide a clear enough distinction between him and Trudeau. And no, nobody wants a conservative
00:09:25.140 party that promotes liberalism. They want a conservative party that promotes conservatism. So over at TNC,
00:09:30.480 we compile a list of the five biggest flip-flops that Aaron O'Toole did on the campaign. So I'm
00:09:36.440 going to go through those quickly. So I think the first and the worst was that he proposed a carbon
00:09:41.880 tax, which was the exact opposite of what he had said earlier. So during his conservative
00:09:46.260 leadership campaign, O'Toole was adamant that he would repeal the liberal government's federal carbon
00:09:50.780 tax. This is what that looked like. This is a picture of him with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation
00:09:56.220 signing a pledge saying, no carbon tax pledge. I, Aaron O'Toole promised that if elected Prime
00:10:02.000 Minister of Canada, I will immediately repeal the Trudeau carbon tax and reject any future carbon
00:10:08.600 tax or cap and trade scheme. And here it is signed, Aaron O'Toole dated June 18th, 2020. Okay. So we all
00:10:16.800 know how that went down. A few months later in April, 2021, Aaron O'Toole released his party's climate
00:10:23.100 change policy. And it included this whole complicated scheme where they put a price on carbon
00:10:28.660 and then they played this like weird semantics game where they tried to say, no, it wasn't a carbon
00:10:33.520 tax. It was a carbon savings account, even though Justin Trudeau also claims that his carbon tax is not
00:10:39.460 a carbon tax, it's a carbon price. So you had the same semantical game. A lot of people were really mad
00:10:45.040 about that when that came out. And, you know, by the time the campaign rolled around, Aaron O'Toole
00:10:51.320 was just basically spouting the same things that we heard from the Liberals nonstop.
00:10:55.200 Here's a CBC article from August, 2021, how the Conservatives came around to supporting a carbon
00:11:00.980 tax. It says here, O'Toole now admits the most efficient way to reduce emissions is through
00:11:05.520 putting a price on carbon. And then here we go in the last week of the campaign. Again, the
00:11:11.860 Conservatives go to the Toronto Star. This is a Toronto Star exclusive, the most left-wing newspaper
00:11:16.800 in the country who hate Conservatives are getting exclusives from the Conservative Party. And here
00:11:20.980 it says, Aaron O'Toole says, that the Liberals' carbon price won't automatically get scrapped if
00:11:26.000 he's Prime Minister. So he went from adamantly opposing carbon taxes so much that he was willing
00:11:30.040 to sign a pledge and stand by it when he wanted to run the Conservative Party, to sort of being squishy
00:11:37.080 about it, saying, here's my plan, it's not a tax, it's a carbon price, and it's going to go into a
00:11:41.560 carbon savings account. And then by the time the campaign rolled around, it was like, no, Justin
00:11:46.320 Trudeau's carbon taxes are here to stay. Of course, that wasn't the only walk back that we saw during
00:11:52.740 his campaign to become Conservative leader. O'Toole was unequivocal that he would defund and privatize
00:11:58.080 CBC's English properties. He also said that he respects independent journalists and that he would
00:12:03.180 fully recognize the Independent Press Gallery of Canada. That is the press gallery that I am the
00:12:07.640 president of, and that he said that he would give our press gallery equal standing to the PPG
00:12:12.560 in Ottawa. Then fast forward a few months in the Conservative platform, O'Toole only pledged that he
00:12:17.140 would review the mandate of the CBC. He no longer said that he would defund it. And throughout the
00:12:21.380 campaign, he failed to grant interviews with independent journalists, failed to let independent
00:12:27.300 journalists into his campaign. Next, this is something that really upset Social Conservatives and
00:12:31.820 people who believe that the purpose of the Conservative Party is to push a moral vision for the country.
00:12:36.920 O'Toole had previously claimed that under his leadership, Conservative caucus members would
00:12:41.280 be able to vote freely, vote according to their morals and according to their conscience. But then,
00:12:45.380 of course, during the campaign, he said that MPs who do not fully support his platform would not
00:12:50.300 be able to sit in his caucus. They would not be able to sit as Conservatives unless they agreed with
00:12:55.380 his platform, which his platform was very socially left-wing. So that's another flip-flop.
00:13:00.400 Next, he flip-flopped when it came to protecting the conscience rights of doctors and hospital
00:13:05.540 workers. So in O'Toole's leadership platform, when he was running for leadership of the Conservative
00:13:10.580 Party, he stated that he would protect the conscience rights of doctors and healthcare
00:13:14.500 workers. He said that healthcare workers would have the right to refuse patients looking for
00:13:19.180 abortions or looking to do euthanasia, that that would be up to the doctor. And their moral rights
00:13:24.280 said that Aaron O'Toole would defend the conscience rights of all healthcare professionals whose beliefs,
00:13:28.400 religious or otherwise, prevent them from carrying out or referring patients for services that violate
00:13:33.020 their conscience. Then in the party platform that came out during the election, this promise was
00:13:38.860 reiterated. It says that we will protect the conscious rights of healthcare professionals.
00:13:43.020 The challenges of dealing with COVID-19 have reminded us of the vital importance of healthcare
00:13:46.980 professionals. The last thing Canada can afford is to drive away any of these professionals out of
00:13:52.000 their profession. But then, surprise, surprise, halfway through the campaign, Aaron O'Toole flipped on
00:13:56.380 that position and said that doctors will not have the right to refuse to refer patients for abortions.
00:14:02.480 He said they will have to refer because the rights to access those services exist across the country.
00:14:08.000 We have to respect conscious rights, but we have to be there for referral. So the exact opposite of
00:14:13.720 what he had said all along. So as you can see, there's a trend going on here. And the worst example
00:14:18.780 of this flip-flopping had to do with Justin Trudeau's gun ban, which Aaron O'Toole had opposed. He had used
00:14:24.860 the support of gun owners, legal gun owners, to win the leadership. He relied on that support. And then when it
00:14:31.020 came to the election time, even though it was really clear in his platform that he was going
00:14:35.580 to reverse the liberal gun grab, the liberals came out and banned 1,500 firearms rather arbitrarily.
00:14:42.260 Andrew Lawton here at True North came up with an extensive documentary looking at this issue. So if
00:14:47.480 you want to know more about this issue and understand it, go over and check out Assaulted,
00:14:51.960 which is Andrew Lawton's four-part series on this. But regardless, Aaron O'Toole completely reversed
00:14:56.880 his position. And this is, to me, the most problematic one. Because when it comes to Justin
00:15:01.720 Trudeau, when it comes to the liberals and the way that they ran their campaign, this idea of
00:15:06.380 creating wedge issues. So Aaron O'Toole is supposed to be a law and order guy. He has a military
00:15:11.400 background. That is one of the strongest areas that he had from a conservative perspective. And so
00:15:17.880 you would expect that if Justin Trudeau tried to create an election wedge issue over guns,
00:15:23.460 Aaron O'Toole would stand up and say, do you know what, Justin Trudeau, you want to make this election
00:15:27.900 about law and order and safety and illegal guns and the problem of gun control. Let's have that 0.91
00:15:32.960 conversation. Let's talk about the number of illegal firearms in Canada. Let's talk about the way that
00:15:37.920 you have loosened sentences for people who are found with illegal guns. Let's talk about revolving
00:15:43.040 door prison systems that allow dangerous criminals who commit violent acts with guns are allowed back on
00:15:48.520 the streets. He could have turned the table. He could have stood his ground and said, you're going after
00:15:52.240 legal firearms owners. What you should be going after is dangerous criminals. That is what was
00:15:58.360 expected of Aaron O'Toole. That's the idea behind being a conservative instead of allowing the liberals
00:16:03.440 to create the narrative and then just sort of weak willed stepping back and saying, oh, okay, well,
00:16:08.940 we'll just change our position and go with the liberal position. No conservatives want to see you
00:16:13.540 standing up, standing your ground, fighting for your position and your values. And again, Justin Trudeau is
00:16:18.960 weak on this issue. So why not go after Trudeau on an issue that he is weak? This in a nutshell is why
00:16:25.720 Aaron O'Toole lost the election. It's not so much that he was a left wing. I don't think that Canadians 0.99
00:16:31.220 by and large really care about left versus right. What they do care about is seeing someone who has
00:16:36.660 conviction, seeing someone who is confident and sure of themselves and seeing someone who has something
00:16:41.740 to say, who has a vision for the country. That's not just pushing platitudes, pushing talking points,
00:16:47.500 saying the same banal platitudes that we hear over and over from politicians. They want to hear someone
00:16:53.580 who has an idea, who has convictions and who stands their grounds. That's not what Aaron O'Toole did in
00:16:58.560 this campaign. Instead, he was sounding a lot like Justin Trudeau. And you can see this on election night.
00:17:03.180 Now, I'm going to play this clip. There's not anything wrong per se with what they're saying here.
00:17:06.880 They're talking about how Canada is this great, big, diverse country and we're inclusive and we
00:17:11.060 like everyone and everyone's a part of it. Yeah, that kind of stuff is just common knowledge at
00:17:15.300 this point. You don't really need to create a whole political speech about how diverse and
00:17:19.400 great this country is. We hear that every day from the liberals. And so again, it's not like there's
00:17:23.260 anything wrong with this message. It's a fine message, but it doesn't inspire. It doesn't excite.
00:17:27.740 It's more like we're being lectured about how we have to like each other. Instead of really presenting
00:17:32.700 this vision for the country, it sounds like Aaron O'Toole here is basically trying to convince you
00:17:38.600 that he is just like the liberals. So let's see this montage of side by side, Trudeau and Aaron O'Toole
00:17:44.680 on election night basically delivering the same speech.
00:17:47.920 No matter how you voted, just like no matter where you come from, what language you speak,
00:17:54.480 the color of your skin, the way you pray, I hear you.
00:17:58.700 Above all, we must continue to show Canadians that whether you're black, white, brown, or from any race or creed,
00:18:08.940 whether you're LGBTQ or straight, whether you are an indigenous Canadian or came to Canada five weeks ago
00:18:16.700 or five generations ago, que le français soit votre premier au deuxième langue, whether you're doing well
00:18:24.560 or barely getting by, whether you worship on Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, every day or not at all,
00:18:31.220 you are an important part of Canada.
00:18:34.160 For our shared journey on the path of reconciliation.
00:18:38.840 It's a conservatism that believes reconciliation is more than a box to check.
00:18:44.460 It is the very keystone of Canada reaching its potential.
00:18:48.060 And it starts with clean drinking water as a basic human right, still denied to indigenous children born today.
00:18:55.900 Let us not forget the past and the dark days we have come through together.
00:19:01.340 But let us still more look to the future and all that is still to come.
00:19:07.300 One that addresses is the challenges of today while advancing the dreams of tomorrow.
00:19:12.800 And all that we have still to build together.
00:19:15.880 A conservatism that builds Canada up.
00:19:31.160 Let's build it up.
00:19:32.580 Canadians don't want weak politicians. 0.97
00:19:34.780 They want someone who is sure of themselves, someone who stands their ground,
00:19:38.040 someone who presents and promotes their views with passion and conviction.
00:19:42.160 They don't want another version of the Liberal Party.
00:19:44.240 They don't want a weak leader who is going to change his mind and just say anything to get elected.
00:19:49.700 That's why the Conservatives lost.
00:19:51.140 That's why Erin O'Toole is not Prime Minister today. 1.00
00:19:53.640 And if the Conservatives ever want to win in this country,
00:19:55.840 again, they have to figure this out sooner rather than later.
00:19:59.000 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.