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- November 28, 2023
Ontario MPP: “Put the IRGC – the ruling party of Iran – on the Canadian terrorist list”
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Canadians should be unapologetic about who we are and what we stand for Canadian values are
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distinct and they are worth defending today I speak to an elected official and a great Canadian
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who lives by these values I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show
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hi everyone thank you so much for tuning into the podcast don't forget to like this video and
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subscribe to true north leave us a comment let us know what you think is great about Canada
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if you're listening to this podcast don't forget to leave us a five-star review if you enjoy the
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podcast so Canada is and always has been a great country in a chaotic and destabilized world Canada
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stands for peace for freedom for hope and opportunity based on a tradition of rights and
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responsibilities that date back over eight centuries we've never been a country defined
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by creed ethnicity or even a shared religion instead we are united by our ideals our values
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namely our commitment to freedom to peace order good government to pluralism and to Canadian
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patriotism a few weeks ago I wrote a column about how Canada needs to get serious and start a
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conversation about our values and how to defend them what it means to be Canadian this is especially
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true against a backdrop of a postmodernist education system that promotes gloom and nihilism and frankly
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hatred of Canada and with practically an open border immigration policy that welcomes millions of
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newcomers without any expectation that they will integrate they will embrace Canadian values that
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they will adopt a Canadian identity and without requiring them to leave their tribalistic feuds and
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hatreds from the war-torn countries that they fled the failed countries that they fled leave them behind
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well shortly after I wrote that column someone sent me a speech that was given in Queen's Park Ontario's
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provincial legislature was a female elected official giving a remarkable speech about what Canada means to
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her and how sadly some of the worst instances of tribalism and bigotry that she left behind in
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the Middle East have followed her to Canada I'm going to play part of that clip for you right now because
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I think it's so fantastic and something that all Canadians should see so this is Ottawa area MPP Goldie
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Gamma Ray on October 23rd 2023 you know Madam Speaker when my parents immigrated to Canada in 1986 I was a year
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old and the reason that they immigrated to Canada from Iran is because in 1979 there was an Islamic
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revolution and our once free and democratic country was taken over by radical Islamists so my parents
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escaped in 1986 because they wanted to live in a free and democratic society and I was a year old at the
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time and we were blessed to be able to come to Canada to escape that hatred to escape that radical
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fundamentalist Islamofascist ideology and so when we came to Canada my parents raised myself and my younger
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sister always telling us how blessed we are to be Canadian and we should always put Canada first never
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forget your heritage never forget your culture never forget your background but always remember
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that you are first and foremost a proud Canadian and what that means madam speaker is you come here
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to embrace culture and diversity and and accept people for who for who they are and you leave the
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problems of your home country behind always remember that first and foremost you are a proud Canadian
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what a beautiful sentiment for immigrant parents to teach their young children really truly a
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remarkable speech Golda Gamera is a progressive conservative Ontario member of the provincial
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parliament representing the riding of Carleton prior to being elected in 2018 she was an international
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trade lawyer and commercial litigator she was born Iran as she mentioned in that clip and her
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family escaped the Islamic regime and came to Canada she has been dedicated to fighting against the
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radical Islamist who run the Iranian regime and she's been particularly vocal in recent weeks as we've
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seen some pro-Hamas activists taking to the streets and protests across the country so Golda Gamera
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welcome to the podcast thank you for having me and you corrected me on the pronunciation of your
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last name I thought it was Gamera but it's Gamera so my apologies for that that's okay no worries
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actually uh it's funny uh my sister and I sometimes use the code word Gamera as uh like a little
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password so we use that password like one of our wi-fi passwords so yeah oh that's funny okay well I
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wanted to start by asking about that remarkable speech that you gave on October 23rd so why don't
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you just tell us what compelled you to deliver those marks and specifically why did you talk about
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how your parents always taught you to put Canada first do you think that's a common sentiment amongst
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newcomers to Canada that they put Canada first um so I mean when I stood up I wasn't really sure what I
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was going to say I didn't have um anything planned out I just knew that I wanted to to speak because it
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was an issue that that's of such importance to me and um you know ever since my speech I've received
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emails from hundreds of people um not just in my riding of Carleton but across Ontario and across Canada
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many of them newcomers uh or you know immigrants from from previous years who said that they share
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the exact same sentiment as me because I think um you know the majority of people including my parents
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immigrate to Canada because they want a better life because they recognize and they understand the
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possibilities that a country like Canada provides the the potential futures that Canada provides
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the opportunities that Canada provides and that happens because of the way Canadian society is
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structured and so you know that's why people like my parents immigrate here is to uh become part of
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that community to embrace those Canadian values and to to to raise their children um Canadian well that's
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wonderful and I'm very pleased to hear uh that you got that reaction and that so many Canadians felt the
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same way uh in in your speech you also were very critical of the pro-Palestine rallies that we've been
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seeing you mentioned that there are have been genocidal chants um what do you think we should make of
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these uh what do you think Canada should do uh when protests are not advocating for peace for instead
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when protests sort of turn nasty and start advocating for terrorism and for groups like Hamas who promote
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genocide well like you know um the previous government has made it very clear that hate rallies have no
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place in Ontario um I know that the prime minister has said something similar but then he's kind of
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gone back and forth on it and and hasn't been very clear on where he stands which is a little bit
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unfortunate because I think uh you know any sort of chants or behaviors or marches or rallies that promote
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hate or terrorism have no place in Canada and don't belong in Canada um it's it's unfortunate I know
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that um the the previous federal government under Prime Minister Stephen Harper introduced a piece of
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legislation that would have made the glorification of of acts of terror illegal in Canada but Justin Trudeau
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repealed that or didn't allow it to go through so unfortunately right now there's this loophole that allows
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certain groups to make certain genocidal chants or to shout um things like
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or gas the Jews or um you know we heard about that imam in Montreal who was preaching off of a balcony to
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20,000 people at a pro-Palestine rally and in that sermon he's basically saying kill the Zionists I mean
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how is that even Canada like that that's something that's the kind of behavior you would see in like
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a radical islamo-fascist country like the terrorist islamic regime in Iran like you don't see that in
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Canada that's the kind of behavior that my parents immigrated from to to get a uh immigrated to Canada
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to to get away from right like we know what that behavior is we see that in Iran all the time
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unfortunately because the behavior that we're seeing right now in Canada certain behaviors certain
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um very anti-semitic ideologies or chants these all stem from ideology that's been perpetrated
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and exported by the terrorist islamic regime in Iran a regime that denies the holocaust a regime that is
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incredibly anti-semitic a regime that um constantly says that they're going to eradicate the the
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zionist regime um and we're seeing those exact same talking points here in Canada in 2023
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it's interesting you you've been exposing and ringing the alarm bell about islamists and specifically
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regime members people from the islamic regime in Iran living in Canada able to go about their business
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you know it's it's interesting because back under again the previous uh federal harper government
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Canada expelled the Iranian diplomats that ended uh diplomatic ties Trudeau has sort of been warmer and softer
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but it's still very surprising to me that there would be senior uh members you know of of the regime
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living in Canada uh able to just sort of carry on their business without being bothered uh the other day
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we saw a rally where someone was waving an islamic republic flag you know i've seen um many people wave
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Persian flags the the same colors but instead of the uh islamic republic logo a lion um but i hadn't
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seen that uh sort of the ayatollah's flag in Canada before it was really sort of chilling so why don't
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you tell us a little bit more about the research that you've been doing and what Canada ought to do
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about regime members living in our country so there was a global uh news special that came out a couple
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weeks ago from um an iranian reporter named nigor mojtahedi and she had done a very in-depth uh review
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and research on islamic regime sympathizers and people from iran who sympathize with the islamic
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regime who are in Canada and uh there's currently at least um 700 known islamic regime sympathizers who
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are in Canada and uh Trudeau has done nothing about that um and like you said a lot of them come here
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and and live these free lives in Canada and enjoy the benefits of being in a Canadian society after
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everything they've done in Iran and and i think part of the reason i mean i can't prove this but my
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educated guess would be part of the reason why they're able to come here is is money whether they're
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sort of economic immigrants or um you know the the i would just say in that case the easiest answer is
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to follow the money what we can do what what justin Trudeau could do if he actually wanted to
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is to put the irgc the islamic revolutionary guard corps which is basically the um the ruling party
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uh to put everyone involved in the irgc on the Canadian terror list what that would do is that
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immediately uh ban anyone from coming to Canada whether as a uh you know on visitor basis or or
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permanent resident uh permanent basis it would also ban all um commercial activities and uh any assets
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that were in Canada would be frozen um so it would you know provide an economic uh sanction within Canada
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right away um and it would definitely um give more uh ability and more weight for authorities to go
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after those who are in Canada who are affiliated with the Islamic regime Iran but Justin Trudeau has
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not done that we don't know why this is something that the Iranian Canadian community has been calling
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for for several years um most notably in the past three almost four years now since um the Islamic
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regime shot down Ukraine flight PS752 back in January of 2020 initially when they did that they said
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um the Islamic regime blamed it on Canada and the United States saying that this was some sort of
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Zionist conspiracy theory and one thing you'll notice with the Islamic regime is everything to them is the
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Zionist conspiracy theory so for the first three days the Islamic regime claimed that that this was
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Canada and the United States and a Zionist conspiracy cover-up but after three days when more and more
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social media footage was emerging showing what actually happened the Islamic regime finally had to
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acknowledge that they themselves had shot down Ukraine flight PS752 killing 55 Canadians on board as well
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as 30 permanent residents um and who were among the 176 passengers and crew who were all um basically
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murdered when when the plane was shot down so ever since then Iranians have been trying to get the IRGC on
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the terrorist list and Justin Trudeau refuses we still don't know why he refuses to put the IRGC on the
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terrorist list what I do know is that one of his MPs um an Iranian MP actually from Richmond Hill
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Majid Johadi back in 2016 initiated a petition to try and re-establish diplomatic relations with the terrorists and
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illegitimate Islamic regime which made no sense to the Iranian Canadian community and that actually left a sour taste
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in a lot of people's mouths a lot of Iranian Canadians mouths and uh yeah there's um there's a lot of people who uh took took
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offense and took issue with um that MP trying to re-establish diplomatic negotiations and re-open the Iranian
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uh embassy in Canada so that might also provide a hint as to why Trudeau won't put the IRGC on the terrorist list
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I believe that's the same MP who during uh a large uh round of protests uh Iranians in Canada and around the world
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uh were protesting the regime's crackdown on civilians on children all kinds of things uh I believe that's
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the same MP who told Canadians to respect the democratically elected government of Iran um he
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later had to walk that back because obviously there's no kind of democracy or elections in Iran uh Goldie I
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wanted to ask you just a final question we're seeing a lot of protests a lot of rallies in Canada uh you know
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some of these protests border on being sort of openly pro Hamas openly uh promoting uh very barbaric
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practices and ideologies and I think it's hard for many Canadians to sort of walk the line of what
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what is considered Islamophobic and what is considered legitimate criticism of extremism uh or or or even
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promotion of terrorism I know you recently tweeted about how you're sort of strong advocate of women's
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rights in the Middle East um but that you failed to make a distinction between extremist practices
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and the broader Muslim faith so I'm wondering if from your perspective where is that distinction
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because the term Islamophobia is a bit murky it's not always clear what is meant by it and some people
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interpret it as being a criticism of Islam which is is meant to be banned so uh what's your perspective
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on that yeah so my my tweets have always been within the context of the terrorist and illegitimate
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Islamic regime Iran and you know I always refer to it as Islamofascism um as opposed to to Islam or
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Muslims um I can't see how sometimes some of the things I say uh might take it out of context could
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be referred to or it could be interpreted as uh referring to everyone um the the challenge is
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at this point I'm not quite really sure what is considered Islamophobic and what isn't
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I was reading a recent article where I know the CRA is attempting to audit a couple of
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I guess Muslim non-profits or Muslim charities and uh one of the advocacy groups um was arguing that
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the CRA attempting to audit these Muslim groups is Islamophobic um and that's a
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argument they made to a judge in Canada now I don't think the judge actually uh I don't think the judge
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bought that argument uh didn't buy by the claim that CRA attempting to audit a Muslim group is Islamophobic
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but I think it just goes the it just shows the challenge of um trying to criticize certain radical
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ideologies um and then you know being painted with with this brush uh I think it's just very important
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that uh any criticism of any religion it should always be made very clear that you know this isn't a
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you know you're not you're not painting the entire community you're not painting um the entire practice
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you're just talking about something very specific so for example you know one of the criticisms I have
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made is that to me it makes no sense that the United Nations voted to have the terrorists and
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illegitimate Islamic regime in Iran which is an Islamophascist dictatorship um have them be the head of the
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United Nations Human Rights Council like to me it just doesn't make sense and I don't think to any
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rational person it wouldn't make sense um that a brutal dictatorship that murders and hangs children
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in the name of Allah by the way that's that's what they do that's why they're Islamophascists because
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they use religion to legitimize
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their fascist behavior and there's actually a term for it in Farsi in Farsi we refer to Islamophascism
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as Vilayatif Fati and uh like that's a whole other episode that we could go into but essentially
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uh what it does is it is it gives the supreme leader the divine authority to dictate anything that
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they want in the name of of Allah so you know to me it makes no sense that you have this Islamophascist
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dictatorship who hangs children um be the head of the United Nations Human Rights Council so to me
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my personal opinion is that we have these international humanitarian organizations or
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institutions that seem a little bit compromised right like how how could you not be compromised when
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you have people voting for the Islamic regime in Iran to be the chair of the human human rights council
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so oh I think it's yeah I think it's a matter of being very very clear and succinct in in the
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criticisms in order to make sure that people understand the context absolutely and I think
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you're completely right about the UN I I recently saw uh someone on social media post a picture of an
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individual who was both a member of UNRWA which is the United Nations uh branch that focuses on refugees in
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Palestine who also happened to be a member of Hamas so he was both um and I think that that kind of
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shows the compromise there well Goldie I really appreciate your time I appreciate all your effort
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I know you have such a big following out there so many people look at you and admire the work you do
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and admire your voice and your strength so thank you so much for taking the time and keep keep doing
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what you're doing thank you so much for having me on anytime uh I'm sorry I kind of I think I ran it on
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a little bit too much but uh happy to come back anytime and then talk great wonderful thank you so much
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that's Goldie Gamare an MPP in Ontario I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show
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