Juno News - Ottawa spent $2.2 million unsuccessfully defending Emergencies Act use

00:00:00.000 You're tuned in to the Andrew Lawton Show.

00:00:08.800 But I want to shift gears here very dramatically for a moment.

00:00:12.680 It is Monday. We'll talk in a few minutes to our, well, a few seconds really,

00:00:16.280 to our good friend Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:00:19.200 But just to set the stage here, you remember when the Federal Court of Canada

00:00:23.520 found that Justin Trudeau had violated your and my constitutional rights

00:00:27.080 when they invoked the Emergencies Act and used it to trample on civil liberties?

00:00:31.620 Well, that lawsuit, they spent $2.2 million on in legal fees.

00:00:39.060 And by the way, tip of the iceberg, the appeal is ongoing.

00:00:42.060 But $2.2 million, only to be told by a federal court judge.

00:00:46.600 Yeah, that was not constitutional.

00:00:48.340 Chris Sims, always good to talk to you. Thanks for coming back on today.

00:00:51.500 Thanks for having us.

00:00:52.280 So $2.2 million. I mean, in terms of the broader Canadian budget,

00:00:57.660 this isn't the hugest amount, but it's about priorities.

00:01:00.760 Instead of a government showing contrition and saying,

00:01:02.980 yeah, you know what, we probably shouldn't have done that,

00:01:04.700 they fought it tooth and nail and even now are continuing to fight it.

00:01:08.620 Yeah, and it's one of those things, again,

00:01:10.580 that shows just how out of touch governments can get

00:01:12.960 when they're in power for so long.

00:01:15.260 And so, to your point, it was a federal court judge

00:01:18.340 that made what I would consider a pretty landmark ruling.

00:01:21.280 I'm not a lawyer, but a lot of my lawyer friends are calling it that.

00:01:24.300 When the justice decided, yeah, the invocation of the Emergencies Act

00:01:28.540 that included things like freezing the bank accounts

00:01:31.560 of people who were supporting the protesters

00:01:33.600 who were in Ottawa at the time was unconstitutional.

00:01:37.140 You can't do that.

00:01:38.060 So definitely hats off to our friends and colleagues

00:01:40.820 over the Canadian Constitution Foundation.

00:01:42.620 I know you've spoken with them many times, Andrew, on your show.

00:01:45.620 And so that was a really key ruling.

00:01:47.320 And I think a lot of people are now writing that down

00:01:50.060 as precedent going forward.

00:01:51.980 And so it would be a good idea for the government

00:01:54.720 to kind of read the room.

00:01:56.740 You know, it's no longer 2021.

00:01:59.080 You know, the heat has come down out of this kind of witch hunt era,

00:02:03.820 as the CCF would have put it at the time,

00:02:05.920 during the pandemic and during the lockdowns.

00:02:08.320 And now it's probably a good idea for the federal government

00:02:11.480 to kind of look around and say, you know what,

00:02:13.360 is this really in the best interest of the public

00:02:15.680 for us to continuously fight this

00:02:17.580 after someone as high level as a federal judge

00:02:21.460 has said, yeah, you guys crossed the line here,

00:02:23.980 better back off.

00:02:24.780 And as my colleague Franco Terrazano said,

00:02:27.160 the federal director of the CTF,

00:02:28.820 they should really back down off of this.

00:02:30.600 They shouldn't spend one penny more of taxpayers' money.

00:02:33.420 And if the government does want to say something,

00:02:35.200 they could probably start with an apology.

00:02:36.880 Yeah, and this is the thing.

00:02:40.340 And we saw in Alberta, your province, this happen.

00:02:43.160 When Danielle Smith took over, 1.00

00:02:44.840 she issued an apology on behalf of the Alberta government

00:02:48.380 to unvaccinated people in the province

00:02:50.140 who had been subjected under the previous government

00:02:52.980 by Jason Kenney to some very significant restrictions,

00:02:55.260 which were common across the country,

00:02:57.300 but didn't actually have any sort of contrition

00:02:59.380 or acknowledgement of wrongdoing from the governments.

00:03:01.960 And there are some people who would say,

00:03:03.740 of course, too little, too late.

00:03:04.920 But I would also point out here that it was something,

00:03:07.620 and she certainly hasn't spent time

00:03:09.200 fighting these people in court.

00:03:11.040 And that's the great thing,

00:03:12.300 is that the government right now federally says,

00:03:14.040 on one hand, oh yeah, we want to move on from this,

00:03:16.000 but they're still trying to defend the indefensible here,

00:03:19.540 which is saying and spending, again,

00:03:21.040 millions of dollars in taxpayer money

00:03:22.900 to defend their right to freeze your bank account.

00:03:26.140 Exactly.

00:03:26.900 And going on with an appeal to this ruling is not moving on.

00:03:31.220 That is continuously spending taxpayers' money.

00:03:33.880 And I think we need to really put a frame around this,

00:03:37.060 on what happened when they froze those bank accounts.

00:03:39.680 So, not getting into the details about,

00:03:42.040 you know, yay, trucker, whatever,

00:03:43.380 but when you look at it, according to police,

00:03:46.020 this was a peaceful protest,

00:03:48.280 people were expressing themselves,

00:03:50.020 and then they used this draconian sort of law,

00:03:53.060 this Emergencies Act,

00:03:54.520 which, according to the government

00:03:56.280 and according to legal experts,

00:03:58.160 is only supposed to be used in extreme emergencies,

00:04:00.960 thus the term.

00:04:03.040 And so, putting it in a nutshell,

00:04:05.060 what the judge said,

00:04:06.340 and I'm paraphrasing,

00:04:07.240 is protest isn't an emergency.

00:04:10.260 You know, we are not being invaded,

00:04:11.960 God forbid.

00:04:12.960 You know, aliens are not coming down out of the sky.

00:04:15.320 We are not suffering a massive terrorist attack again,

00:04:17.800 God forbid.

00:04:18.700 That is what the Emergencies Act is supposed to be.

00:04:21.820 And yet, they went and did it anyway.

00:04:24.300 And so, that is why the Taxpayers' Federation said,

00:04:26.920 if you suspend civil liberties,

00:04:29.740 if you invoke something

00:04:30.680 that used to be called the War Measures Act,

00:04:33.440 it's pretty difficult

00:04:34.500 for grassroots citizens organizations

00:04:36.540 to hold government to account.

00:04:39.000 And when you put that into the context of,

00:04:40.840 remember, a couple of years before that,

00:04:42.760 they tried sneaking through this little rule

00:04:44.660 that they'd be allowed to spend

00:04:46.400 without any government oversight at all.

00:04:48.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:49.200 Yeah, that was pretty wild.

00:04:50.900 And now, you add on

00:04:52.200 how much this is costing taxpayers

00:04:53.820 for things like the lockdowns.

00:04:55.400 Also, one could argue

00:04:56.860 that the Trudeau government

00:04:57.900 printed hundreds of billions of dollars

00:04:59.960 out of thin air

00:05:00.740 during that entire situation.

00:05:03.100 So, that has helped

00:05:03.920 with the inflation crisis,

00:05:05.200 as my friend, again,

00:05:06.340 Franco Teresano would point out.

00:05:08.000 So, we're still financially feeling

00:05:09.680 the results of this.

00:05:11.300 Probably a good idea

00:05:12.660 for the government

00:05:13.660 to put down the credit card

00:05:14.980 and start moving on from this

00:05:16.920 in their true nature.

00:05:18.120 Because keep in mind,

00:05:19.360 like, we don't have money for this.

00:05:21.200 The government does not have money for this.

00:05:22.900 Number one, it does not create wealth.

00:05:24.360 Every nickel of this

00:05:25.920 is taxpayers' money.

00:05:27.300 Number two,

00:05:28.240 we are so far in debt, Andrew.

00:05:30.620 We are a trillion dollars in debt.

00:05:32.860 The Trudeau government

00:05:33.560 has nearly doubled it

00:05:34.840 during its time in office.

00:05:36.360 Like, we have un-money.

00:05:37.960 All of this would be borrowed money

00:05:39.640 to continuously fight this thing.

00:05:42.440 Yeah, very well said.

00:05:44.040 And I think it's a natural segue

00:05:45.260 into the story

00:05:45.980 I talked about a bit last week.

00:05:47.500 But there's a bit of an update to it

00:05:48.920 in that CBC

00:05:49.560 is getting in the federal budget

00:05:52.220 another $42 million

00:05:53.360 in addition to the $1.4 billion

00:05:55.140 in addition to all of the money

00:05:57.380 they've gotten over the years.

00:05:58.520 Plus ad revenue,

00:05:59.700 which I imagine is like, you know,

00:06:01.120 $4 given their viewership numbers.

00:06:02.880 But still,

00:06:03.680 some people pay for advertising

00:06:05.660 on CBC inexplicably.

00:06:07.640 And here we have a government

00:06:09.660 that is giving more money

00:06:11.140 to the state broadcaster.

00:06:12.900 Well, the state broadcaster

00:06:14.480 gives millions of dollars

00:06:16.000 in executive bonuses.

00:06:17.700 And its president

00:06:19.260 doesn't even want to be interviewed

00:06:20.800 by CBC journalists.

00:06:22.300 This is a tweet from Travis Danraj.

00:06:26.440 Now, Travis Danraj is the guy

00:06:28.620 who at the beginning of COVID

00:06:29.620 like flew to Rio

00:06:30.680 and then, you know,

00:06:31.920 got realized

00:06:32.600 it made him look really bad

00:06:33.660 when he was writing about

00:06:34.900 why everyone else needs to stay home.

00:06:36.240 So he flew back.

00:06:37.020 But Travis Danraj,

00:06:38.240 he says that a time

00:06:39.100 when the public broadcaster

00:06:40.240 is under increasing scrutiny

00:06:41.460 and when transparency is needed,

00:06:43.280 Canada Tonight

00:06:43.960 requested an interview

00:06:44.920 with Catherine Tate.

00:06:46.800 We wanted to discuss

00:06:47.580 new budget funding,

00:06:48.460 what it means for jobs

00:06:49.320 and the corporation's

00:06:50.220 strategic priorities ahead.

00:06:51.720 Our request was declined.

00:06:53.220 This is unfortunate.

00:06:54.500 Now, I don't begrudge anyone

00:06:56.000 turning down an interview request

00:06:57.440 from Travis Danraj.

00:06:58.700 They have that right.

00:06:59.560 That is something you can do.

00:07:01.040 But when the CBC president

00:07:02.320 doesn't even want to be interviewed

00:07:03.380 by CBC,

00:07:04.200 why the heck are the rest of us

00:07:05.260 supposed to take them seriously?

00:07:06.780 I'm just so glad this happened

00:07:08.320 because it's so funny.

00:07:10.040 Yeah.

00:07:10.820 Right.

00:07:11.260 And so I think here,

00:07:12.680 this is me putting my thinking cap.

00:07:14.440 So full disclosure,

00:07:15.920 I did work at the CBCs

00:07:17.160 for a very short period of time.

00:07:18.520 They were very nice to me.

00:07:19.900 I hold no personal grudges whatsoever.

00:07:21.640 But I remember working

00:07:22.680 in the newsroom in Ottawa

00:07:23.880 and I'm just for the life of me

00:07:25.700 trying to figure out

00:07:26.540 how this went,

00:07:27.840 like how many different layers

00:07:29.280 of comms specialists

00:07:30.760 and assistants and producers

00:07:32.320 this request

00:07:33.320 would have had to go through.

00:07:34.460 And I think the reason

00:07:35.620 why CEO of the CBC,

00:07:37.800 Catherine Tate,

00:07:38.420 who, by the way,

00:07:39.020 is paid between

00:07:40.100 $400-something thousand dollars

00:07:42.140 and $600-something thousand dollars

00:07:44.020 per year

00:07:44.520 with bonuses included.

00:07:46.620 How it is that she

00:07:48.080 denied this request,

00:07:49.820 I think it goes back

00:07:50.840 to that national interview

00:07:52.280 that anchor,

00:07:53.960 she used to be a field reporter 0.90

00:07:54.960 for a long time,

00:07:55.760 Adrienne Arsenault,

00:07:56.460 but she's now an anchor

00:07:57.300 of the national

00:07:58.000 in case people don't know.

00:07:59.560 She had CEO Catherine Tate on

00:08:01.660 and this was just before Christmas.

00:08:03.360 And of course,

00:08:04.060 we all remember the story

00:08:05.300 of, oh,

00:08:05.780 this is going to cause

00:08:06.600 hundreds of layoffs

00:08:07.480 before Christmas,

00:08:08.600 these big cuts.

00:08:10.080 And so she went after Tate

00:08:11.800 saying,

00:08:12.460 oh, well,

00:08:12.860 the Canadian Taxpayers Federation

00:08:14.400 has found

00:08:15.140 that we're spending

00:08:16.200 between $14 and $15 million

00:08:17.820 on bonuses.

00:08:19.140 Are you at least going to

00:08:20.100 cut out the gravy

00:08:20.840 and the bonuses this year?

00:08:22.640 And Tate was lost

00:08:23.600 for an answer.

00:08:24.560 It was like a deer

00:08:25.260 stuck on the railroad tracks.

00:08:26.800 And so I have a feeling

00:08:27.880 that Tate's people said no.

00:08:28.760 I feel you've mixed

00:08:29.280 your metaphors there.

00:08:30.520 A deer in the headlights

00:08:31.700 became a deer.

00:08:32.480 What sort of sadistic

00:08:33.700 railroad track

00:08:34.680 bondage dungeon

00:08:36.300 are you running over there

00:08:37.160 in Lethbridge?

00:08:38.440 Well, you know what

00:08:39.200 it's like at night

00:08:39.900 when the train is coming

00:08:41.780 and it's got that big spotlight

00:08:42.900 and now it's added deer to it.

00:08:44.780 So yeah, I guess

00:08:45.340 now you've done

00:08:45.900 like a deer trolley dilemma.

00:08:47.460 We're going back

00:08:48.040 to first year philosophy here.

00:08:49.580 A deer is tied down

00:08:51.500 on the railroad tracks

00:08:52.840 and it's paralyzed

00:08:54.260 with fear.

00:08:55.340 But anyway,

00:08:56.460 I don't blame Catherine Tate

00:08:58.520 for not wanting

00:08:59.040 to return to CBC.

00:09:00.260 That is fair.

00:09:00.580 Yes, yes.

00:09:01.180 And the main thing here though

00:09:02.460 is again,

00:09:03.140 there's constantly crying poor

00:09:04.580 and the Trudeau government

00:09:06.360 just gave them

00:09:06.920 another $42 million.

00:09:09.140 And again,

00:09:10.040 trust in media,

00:09:11.140 in mainstream media

00:09:12.020 to be clear,

00:09:12.760 is just nosediving right now

00:09:14.760 and that's largely

00:09:15.740 because the government

00:09:16.860 is paying

00:09:17.580 so many journalists.

00:09:19.300 You can't hold

00:09:20.640 the government to account

00:09:21.520 if you're counting

00:09:22.040 on the government

00:09:22.480 for your paycheck.

00:09:23.460 And here they just went

00:09:24.460 and gave them

00:09:25.020 a big dollop more.

00:09:25.840 I'm kind of of the mind

00:09:27.740 that CBC should basically

00:09:29.520 just fire everyone

00:09:31.060 but those French journalists

00:09:32.360 that did the investigation

00:09:33.360 of the Transgender Youth Clinic.

00:09:36.060 They're like the ones there

00:09:37.160 that are doing real journalism

00:09:38.300 and then, you know,

00:09:38.920 get rid of everyone else.

00:09:39.900 But this one,

00:09:41.120 I would be remiss

00:09:41.920 to point out

00:09:42.440 that it is Earth Day today,

00:09:44.680 which I didn't realize.

00:09:45.800 It's kind of lost its shine.

00:09:47.160 Like Earth Hour,

00:09:48.000 I couldn't even tell you

00:09:48.880 when it is.

00:09:49.280 I remember when Earth Hour

00:09:50.000 was a thing

00:09:50.600 and everyone was really

00:09:51.980 excited about it

00:09:52.840 and now no one cares.

00:09:54.080 Earth Day,

00:09:54.660 I remember when I was a kid

00:09:56.240 in school,

00:09:57.520 which is going back

00:09:58.560 more than I'd care to admit now.

00:10:00.380 This was a thing

00:10:00.920 for a little while.

00:10:02.020 But Earth Day

00:10:02.620 is apparently today.

00:10:04.100 Stephen Gilbeau

00:10:04.860 commemorated it

00:10:05.880 by announcing

00:10:06.660 a federal plastics registry,

00:10:08.380 which I'll be talking about

00:10:09.300 in a couple of minutes

00:10:10.340 on the show.

00:10:10.920 But you decided

00:10:11.820 to share a video clip

00:10:13.620 from,

00:10:14.280 this is a deep cut

00:10:15.360 from the archives.

00:10:16.680 Anything you want to say

00:10:17.680 before we play it?

00:10:19.420 I just wanted to note

00:10:21.020 that this was just

00:10:22.280 a few days

00:10:22.920 after we launched.

00:10:24.660 From that TV station.

00:10:26.880 Enjoy.

00:10:27.040 Yeah, this is an old

00:10:27.780 Sun News gem,

00:10:30.180 which sadly,

00:10:31.000 the archives have been

00:10:32.000 lost to history

00:10:33.140 for the most part.

00:10:33.900 Well, you've got a few gems.

00:10:34.820 I played a little while ago

00:10:36.000 the one on this show

00:10:37.440 of Ezra doing his

00:10:38.900 like Marg Delahunte bit

00:10:40.740 where it was like

00:10:41.500 Ezra in drag,

00:10:43.120 which was like fantastic.

00:10:45.040 This one, though,

00:10:45.780 I had forgotten about.

00:10:46.700 Let's take a look.

00:10:47.560 I shall now commit

00:10:49.780 the most heinous crime

00:10:51.020 imaginable to earth worshippers.

00:10:53.280 They're pretty soft

00:10:54.020 on real crimes,

00:10:54.900 you know,

00:10:55.220 against people.

00:10:56.180 But St. Suzuki himself

00:10:57.540 has called for politicians

00:10:58.460 to be jailed

00:10:59.300 for not believing

00:11:00.200 in his theory

00:11:00.800 of man-made global warming.

00:11:02.540 Well, Suzuki's going to give me

00:11:03.660 the death penalty for this.

00:11:04.860 I shall now commit

00:11:06.180 first-degree lumberjacking

00:11:08.220 on this poor tree.

00:11:10.220 Happy Earth Day, Sam.

00:11:11.440 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:12.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:42.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:43.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:44.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:45.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:46.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:47.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:48.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:49.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:50.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:51.620 Fire up the chainsaw.

00:11:54.360 How he survived that,

00:11:56.660 I will not know

00:11:57.920 because it doesn't look like

00:11:59.120 he had ever touched

00:11:59.980 one of those things before

00:12:01.120 and I haven't asked Ezra.

00:12:02.860 I suspect has never done it

00:12:04.160 since either.

00:12:05.500 He just doesn't seem

00:12:07.020 like the type,

00:12:08.060 which is why it was smart

00:12:09.100 the producer got it started

00:12:10.400 for him,

00:12:10.820 but he did a thorough job

00:12:12.120 that poor little cedar hedge.

00:12:13.460 It didn't do anything to Ezra,

00:12:14.760 but you see how he got

00:12:15.740 right down there in the roots?

00:12:16.860 I don't know if that thing

00:12:17.740 bounced back.

00:12:19.060 Yeah, he made David Suzuki

00:12:20.900 cry there for sure.

00:12:23.800 Any Earth Day plans

00:12:25.340 on your part, Chris?

00:12:26.680 No, it's business as usual

00:12:29.000 here in Alberta,

00:12:30.060 producing energy

00:12:31.020 for the rest of the country

00:12:32.160 as best we can

00:12:32.880 and trying to export it

00:12:34.100 as best we can,

00:12:35.320 which I will remind people.

00:12:36.740 Again, let's just

00:12:38.400 for seriousness here.

00:12:39.800 If global emissions

00:12:40.920 are your key issue,

00:12:42.300 say they keep you up at night,

00:12:43.420 they get you up in the morning,

00:12:44.320 they really bother you.

00:12:45.500 We can work on the big end

00:12:46.780 of the arithmetic problem, folks.

00:12:48.400 We can actually ship things

00:12:49.700 like our natural gas,

00:12:50.840 which is much cleaner

00:12:51.560 burning fuel

00:12:52.240 to places like India

00:12:53.560 to replace their coal

00:12:55.640 and their wood

00:12:56.720 and their animal dung

00:12:57.900 that they burn indoors

00:12:59.080 every single day.

00:13:00.320 So if you want to actually

00:13:01.420 tackle global emissions,

00:13:02.760 let's work on the big end

00:13:03.740 of the arithmetic problem

00:13:04.680 and that includes places

00:13:06.080 like Alberta.

00:13:07.660 Well, and also inefficient forms

00:13:09.240 of fuel over the years,

00:13:10.400 like going back

00:13:10.960 to the 19th century,

00:13:12.700 have never been phased out

00:13:14.280 or combated by regulation,

00:13:16.260 but rather by innovation.

00:13:17.600 And this is the one thing

00:13:18.660 that the federal government

00:13:19.520 refuses to acknowledge.

00:13:21.300 Yes, I'm really glad

00:13:22.400 you brought this up.

00:13:23.120 Can I talk about horse manure

00:13:24.260 on your show?

00:13:25.260 Is that allowed?

00:13:25.560 Absolutely.

00:13:26.720 Okay.

00:13:27.180 It'll become a CBC broadcast

00:13:28.660 when you spew too much

00:13:29.960 of the manure, though.

00:13:30.640 This will become

00:13:31.260 a heritage moment.

00:13:32.320 So for folks

00:13:33.380 who aren't huge history

00:13:34.620 nerds,

00:13:35.200 I heartily encourage you

00:13:36.660 to pick up a book

00:13:37.980 from the last turn of,

00:13:39.160 oh my goodness,

00:13:39.780 I'm old,

00:13:40.160 turn of the last,

00:13:40.900 last century.

00:13:41.660 So in the late 1800s,

00:13:43.640 okay,

00:13:44.380 go look up

00:13:45.280 The Great Horse Manure Crisis.

00:13:47.280 And I'm bringing this up

00:13:48.180 for a real reason, okay?

00:13:49.940 Think pre-automobile, okay?

00:13:52.460 People were still

00:13:53.520 getting their stuff

00:13:54.320 to the store.

00:13:55.060 They were still

00:13:55.460 getting to school.

00:13:56.460 They still had to get to work.

00:13:57.820 People were still

00:13:58.460 transporting themselves

00:13:59.680 and goods,

00:14:00.600 especially in big cities

00:14:01.980 like New York City

00:14:03.360 and London

00:14:04.360 over in the United Kingdom.

00:14:06.000 How did they get to places?

00:14:07.500 How did they ship

00:14:08.140 their goods? 0.73

00:14:08.780 By horse and cart.

00:14:10.760 Now,

00:14:11.400 horses were our main

00:14:12.840 source of transportation,

00:14:14.640 but their emissions

00:14:15.960 were something real.

00:14:18.060 Not joking.

00:14:19.080 So at one point

00:14:20.120 in places like

00:14:21.100 New York City,

00:14:21.860 world-class cities

00:14:22.660 in London,

00:14:23.820 okay,

00:14:24.160 we had piles

00:14:25.620 and piles

00:14:26.340 of horse manure

00:14:27.720 that was so bad,

00:14:29.700 Andrew,

00:14:29.980 that people

00:14:30.640 couldn't get through it.

00:14:32.000 There were actually

00:14:32.640 jobs of men 0.80

00:14:33.860 that would get out there

00:14:34.520 with a shovel

00:14:35.080 to shovel a tunnel

00:14:36.360 for somebody

00:14:36.940 to even get across

00:14:37.920 the street.

00:14:38.900 Now,

00:14:39.080 just imagine the flies.

00:14:41.000 Just imagine the parasites

00:14:42.040 and the disease.

00:14:43.280 Add to that

00:14:43.880 actual horse carcasses.

00:14:45.920 So this is for real,

00:14:46.900 folks.

00:14:47.120 You can look it up

00:14:47.700 in the New York Times.

00:14:48.880 They had a summit

00:14:49.720 about this,

00:14:50.760 but you know what

00:14:51.620 saved them?

00:14:52.660 It was innovation.

00:14:54.020 The government

00:14:54.700 did not suddenly

00:14:55.560 grow a new arm

00:14:56.960 and start trying

00:14:58.280 to ban things

00:14:59.360 or tax things

00:15:00.300 to death

00:15:00.740 because they didn't

00:15:01.760 know what to do.

00:15:03.200 But problems

00:15:05.160 are the mother

00:15:06.060 of innovation,

00:15:07.060 okay?

00:15:07.540 A crisis is the mother 0.58

00:15:08.620 of innovation

00:15:09.240 and government

00:15:10.380 is not the solution.

00:15:11.800 What happened is

00:15:12.540 human beings invented

00:15:13.900 the internal combustion engine

00:15:15.300 and they went

00:15:16.060 to horseless cars.

00:15:17.880 Car, by the way,

00:15:18.560 is short for carriage,

00:15:20.340 okay?

00:15:20.700 That's why it's called

00:15:21.520 a dashboard

00:15:22.180 because it was literally

00:15:23.640 a board

00:15:24.360 that kept all the mud

00:15:25.460 and stuff

00:15:26.060 from flying up

00:15:27.300 when the horse

00:15:27.740 was dashing

00:15:28.340 in front of you.

00:15:29.420 So this is linear,

00:15:30.480 folks,

00:15:30.940 and we have been able

00:15:32.080 to solve transportation

00:15:33.340 emission crises

00:15:34.820 in the past

00:15:35.880 without resorting

00:15:37.360 to impoverishing people

00:15:38.620 for the sin

00:15:39.300 of driving to work

00:15:40.180 and heating their home.

00:15:42.100 I just stopped listening

00:15:43.780 when you said

00:15:44.260 car was short

00:15:45.080 for carriage.

00:15:45.900 I never knew that.

00:15:47.600 I'll say it

00:15:48.320 to the smartest person

00:15:49.040 in the room.

00:15:49.540 Will I look foolish

00:15:50.180 or is this,

00:15:50.840 are you confident

00:15:51.460 about that?

00:15:52.020 I'm 100% confident.

00:15:53.280 No, that's why

00:15:53.680 it's called a glove box too.

00:15:55.460 Because they literally

00:15:56.560 kept their driving gloves

00:15:58.400 that you're driving

00:15:59.660 a horse, right?

00:16:00.860 Why do we call it

00:16:01.580 driving?

00:16:02.160 Why do we call it

00:16:02.980 horsepower in the engine?

00:16:04.220 It's actually all related.

00:16:05.620 It's pretty fascinating.

00:16:06.860 And so the glove box

00:16:07.720 was literally

00:16:08.180 where the driver

00:16:08.880 would keep his or her gloves

00:16:10.320 so that way

00:16:10.800 you don't get chaps 1.00

00:16:11.700 from the reins.

00:16:12.960 Yeah, now they just call it

00:16:13.920 the insurance slip

00:16:14.680 and driver's manual box.

00:16:16.260 All right, I did not know that.

00:16:17.460 I learned so much

00:16:18.480 from you, Chris.

00:16:19.280 This is why we're glad

00:16:20.160 to have you back every Monday.

00:16:21.220 We will talk to you

00:16:22.140 next week.

00:16:22.780 Chris Sims

00:16:23.240 from the Canadian Taxpayers

00:16:24.740 Federation.

00:16:25.340 Always a pleasure.

00:16:26.420 Likewise.

00:16:27.360 All right.

00:16:28.040 I'm going to,

00:16:28.680 I trust Chris.

00:16:29.420 I'm going to fact check that.

00:16:30.420 Hang on.

00:16:30.780 Let me do this right now.

00:16:32.320 I want to make sure.

00:16:34.020 Yep.

00:16:34.340 No, she's,

00:16:35.420 ooh, actually,

00:16:36.420 hang on, hang on.

00:16:37.860 Do we have Chris?

00:16:39.060 If we have,

00:16:39.640 if we still have Chris,

00:16:40.520 let's put her back on here. 1.00

00:16:41.580 Okay.

00:16:42.520 The English word car

00:16:43.880 is believed to originate

00:16:45.560 from the Latin carom,

00:16:47.100 which, okay.

00:16:50.600 This one says chariot

00:16:52.160 that it comes from,

00:16:53.400 but yours makes more sense.

00:16:55.040 Yeah.

00:16:55.220 Well, it would have gone,

00:16:56.200 so I'm not an etymologist.

00:16:58.180 Okay.

00:16:58.580 My husband is.

00:16:59.860 Oh yeah, he's a good one too.

00:17:01.020 If I'm delving into this,

00:17:02.520 so it would have gone chariot

00:17:03.960 to carriage to car.

00:17:05.740 It all would have been.

00:17:05.940 Okay, no, yeah.

00:17:06.560 It originally referred

00:17:07.260 to any wheeled,

00:17:08.020 horse-drawn vehicle

00:17:08.660 such as a cart,

00:17:09.440 carriage, or wagon.

00:17:10.160 So I guess it could have been

00:17:11.120 cart or carriage,

00:17:12.280 depending on which

00:17:13.380 evolutionary path it took.

00:17:14.660 All right.

00:17:15.660 Well, you're our

00:17:16.140 in-house etymologist now.

00:17:17.380 Step aside, Harley. 0.91

00:17:18.560 We got Chris showing up here.

00:17:20.760 All right.

00:17:21.780 Thanks for coming back on.

00:17:23.660 Bye.

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