Juno News - April 09, 2025


Our election is being STOLEN and now we have PROOF (Ft. Sam Cooper)


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Candace Malan is joined by journalist Sam Cooper to discuss China's interference in our election, and why it matters. Candace and Sam discuss why the Chinese government is behind the campaign to elect a Conservative Prime Minister in the upcoming election.

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00:00:00.000 Mark Carney, Trudeau's money man, globalist, China's pal.
00:00:06.560 Weeks in, he jets to Beijing, scores a $250 million loan from their state bank.
00:00:15.440 11 MPs tied to Beijing.
00:00:19.000 Carney's crew says nothing, selling us out foreign cash.
00:00:25.000 Secret deals, Carney's Canada.
00:00:30.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:35.120 So as we know, we are underway in a federal election.
00:00:38.420 I believe this is going to be the most important election of my lifetime, the most consequential election of my lifetime.
00:00:44.980 And we hear that a lot during elections.
00:00:46.960 This time it is actually true.
00:00:48.520 Our country is in serious trouble.
00:00:50.880 And if Canadians choose to double down on this Liberal government, do a fourth term of Liberal government,
00:00:57.660 I don't know what will happen to the country, I don't know what will happen with Canada, but I fear the worst.
00:01:03.200 I fear that our country cannot survive.
00:01:05.640 And so here we are in this election, and we learn this absolute bombshell news that our election is being interfered by the Communist Chinese government. 0.54
00:01:16.920 Again, for years we've been warned that there is interference in our democratic institutions, specifically in our elections.
00:01:23.240 We've learned that it happened in 2021, sort of more on a minor scale.
00:01:27.640 But there were instances of Chinese groups communicating and trying to dissuade voters from voting for the Conservatives.
00:01:34.920 It's happening again, the government's come out and said it, that it's happening, we know it's happening.
00:01:40.500 And the response is just sort of a collective, like shrugging our shoulders, not much we can do about it, let's just carry on.
00:01:46.560 That is not acceptable, folks.
00:01:48.420 This is our democracy that we are fighting for.
00:01:50.600 This is our election, and this needs to stop.
00:01:52.860 So today on the show, we are going to shine a light on this nefarious activity.
00:01:57.580 I am joined by one of the best investigative journalists in the country who has been painstakingly outlying this and providing evidence and showcasing it to his followers and his readers.
00:02:08.740 I'm talking about Sam Cooper.
00:02:10.560 Sam, thank you so much for joining the program today.
00:02:13.640 Glad to be here with you.
00:02:15.640 And I agree, Candace.
00:02:16.620 This is the most important election we can imagine, certainly, that I've ever experienced.
00:02:21.800 Well, and the fact, I mean, this is just so frustrating to me.
00:02:24.360 We had a site intelligence officer come out this week and say what we all know to be true, that there are coordinated campaigns promoting Mark Carney.
00:02:32.940 I covered this on the show.
00:02:34.040 This was just so frustrating.
00:02:35.120 The legacy media covered it in the exact opposite way, right?
00:02:38.140 We know that the Chinese government is out there promoting Mark Carney, pushing his message, saying that he's the best leader, trying to convince specifically people in the Chinese diaspora community, but also more broadly in other communities, saying we need to vote for Mark Carney.
00:02:52.540 He's the one that will stand up to Donald Trump.
00:02:54.680 And how do the media cover it?
00:02:56.040 The media say that Mark Carney is being targeted, that the liberals are being targeted as if they are somehow the victims of this coordinated campaign.
00:03:03.900 We all know that if this was happening with the conservatives, say the Americans or the Russians were out there promoting Pierre Polyev, we know that this would be a huge scandal.
00:03:12.520 The media would be tearing their hair out.
00:03:14.200 It would be, you know, the number one story across the country.
00:03:17.080 Everyone would be talking about how unacceptable it is that there were foreign interference.
00:03:21.120 And yet somehow when it happens with China, when it happens with the liberals, again, there's just this sort of collective shrug of the shoulders.
00:03:30.120 And Sam, I want to get you to react to this video.
00:03:33.080 So Mark Carney was out in Delta, British Columbia on Tuesday.
00:03:36.940 He was asked about this.
00:03:38.380 And the thing that I want to point out that stood out to me is that he refuses to condemn it.
00:03:43.420 He refuses to condemn China.
00:03:44.800 He's asked to comment about it.
00:03:46.340 He said he has absolutely no idea why China is trying to help him and trying to get him promoted.
00:03:51.040 And then he just stopped short.
00:03:52.260 He says, I'll leave it at that.
00:03:53.260 Why would you leave it at that?
00:03:54.440 Why wouldn't you say this is completely unacceptable and I don't want the Chinese government out there helping me? 0.99
00:03:59.420 But Carney couldn't bring himself to do that.
00:04:01.000 Instead, he just sort of bumbles and says that he has no idea and he's not really a part of it.
00:04:05.400 This is so weak to me.
00:04:06.720 OK, let's play this clip and I'll get you to respond to it.
00:04:08.700 From understanding, you know, some of the campaign was pushing positive narratives about you.
00:04:15.360 Why do you think that China, the PRC, seems to like you?
00:04:19.520 Why are they praising you?
00:04:20.720 I have absolutely no idea.
00:04:24.000 And I, yeah, I have absolutely no idea.
00:04:26.840 And I think, well, I'll leave it at that.
00:04:32.180 I'll just leave it at that.
00:04:33.260 Why would he just leave it at that?
00:04:34.260 Why wouldn't he say this is unacceptable in Canadian democracy and it needs to stop?
00:04:38.580 I mean, to me, that was just so unacceptable of an answer.
00:04:41.000 What do you what do you make of all this?
00:04:42.040 Well, Candace, it was one of the weakest answers, frankly, I've ever seen from a national leader.
00:04:47.580 One, I was at that press conference that disclosed that site breaking news intelligence, which, as you know, the only reason journalists are now getting that is because my work over the previous years put the spotlight on Canada's lack of action on these known threats.
00:05:04.080 So Mr. Carney's answer, look, we as journalists in that site briefing on Monday, we were told by the government that Mr. Carney was targeted by PRC, rather Communist Party networks with connections to the highest level of the state, promoting or boosting through WeChat some positive and some negative messages.
00:05:26.900 But a very astute National Post reporter looked at the briefing package we got and said, I'm sorry, I only see very strong, positive messages.
00:05:36.020 And I also read those WeChat posts.
00:05:38.640 And what do you know, they were saying they were very glowing, a 2000 word story saying essentially the same thing the liberals are saying in their campaign.
00:05:47.720 But let me break it down.
00:05:49.060 The communists were saying Mark Carney will be a strong champion against Donald Trump.
00:05:55.480 The American government wants to make Canada the 51st state.
00:05:59.860 They want to take Canada's resources.
00:06:03.060 Mr. Carney is a rock star economist.
00:06:06.800 And so myself as probably the leading subject expert in Canadian journalism and a lot of the areas of government on Chinese interference, I can dissect that Chinese intelligence and indicate that, yes, not only is it focused on the millions of Chinese Canadians,
00:06:23.440 millions of page views, but that same narrative is going across the Liberal Party campaign and with my deep knowledge of how Chinese intelligence has access to Justin Trudeau's inner circle through staff positions.
00:06:39.820 I think it's fair to ask, has that Chinese Communist Party messaging that at the end of the day seeks to divide Ottawa from Washington and has been trying to do that since Pierre Trudeau quite successfully with a lot of people in the Liberal Party making Canadians anti-American in their view?
00:06:58.100 Is that Communist messaging that supports Mr. Carney making it into the Liberal campaign?
00:07:03.880 And my short answer is, yes, I believe so.
00:07:06.400 I can see a lot of data points lining that up.
00:07:09.100 But look, Mr. Carney's answer, he could have said there were messages that said that the Liberals will be essentially, you know, the best to fight the United States.
00:07:21.360 That's not acceptable.
00:07:22.820 Canada will always be the ally of the United States.
00:07:26.180 We can never be separated.
00:07:28.320 If I were a Canadian leader, if I ever go into politics, that would be my message.
00:07:33.060 But Mr. Carney, Candace, I've reported in the weeks prior, Mr. Carney meets with Xi Jinping in 2024.
00:07:41.480 Mr. Carney secures a $250 million Bank of China loan for his investment fund Brookfield while China's real estate market is crashing.
00:07:50.900 So at a high level, I think Mr. Carney is very, very positive for Beijing in its growing economic war, if not threat of greater and broader war with the United States.
00:08:04.780 That's why they're supporting Carney.
00:08:06.840 And I guess he can't say it.
00:08:08.120 He would not be smart to say that.
00:08:09.660 Well, you would like to at least him condemn the idea that a foreign government is interfering in our election.
00:08:16.040 It's despicable that he wouldn't.
00:08:17.660 This clip was making the rounds on social media.
00:08:20.020 Andrew shared it a few weeks ago, but it was popping up everywhere as well.
00:08:25.240 So this is at a conference, China Carbon Neutrality, where Mark Carney basically just praises China, says that China's at center stage in the new global sustainable financial system and really just cheerleading China.
00:08:41.460 So it's no it's no wonder why China will be out there supporting Mark Carney.
00:08:45.640 Let's play that clip.
00:08:46.340 The momentum behind this agenda is now tremendous and it'll be important that China is center stage to shape this new global sustainable financial system.
00:08:58.320 And we see a lot of these kind of clips circulating of Mark Carney.
00:09:02.460 Here is another one.
00:09:03.740 This one was from all the way back in August 2016.
00:09:06.720 But here's Mark Carney speaking at a Toronto region board of trade, praising China, saying that they're ambitious and basically saying that their greatest strength is their perspective.
00:09:18.040 Let's play that clip.
00:09:19.440 One of the many strengths of China is is is is their perspective, their medium long term perspective.
00:09:27.300 This is an ambitious G20.
00:09:30.080 It's an ambitious Chinese leadership.
00:09:31.720 So we see that Mark Carney has a history and a career of wanting to promote China, wanting to work with China.
00:09:38.060 You mentioned that he took that state loan from the state government bank in China for a quarter of a billion dollars back when he was also advising Justin Trudeau.
00:09:46.760 Well, here's something interesting.
00:09:48.180 This is a graphic from Fox News.
00:09:50.280 It was posted on X by Kirk Lubomov.
00:09:52.820 And he he writes this.
00:09:53.840 He says, here is how countries have been responding to Donald Trump's tariffs.
00:09:57.460 Then he writes, oh, Canada and the company we keep.
00:10:00.060 So here is the breakdown, Trump's tariff response, the countries that are trying to negotiate with the Americans.
00:10:05.740 And you can see the flags of those countries.
00:10:07.540 So we have, let's see, Japan, South Korea, the U.K., Switzerland, Malaysia, Singapore, Brazil, Colombia, Turkey and Australia, countries that have offered concessions, India, Israel and a handful of others.
00:10:20.460 And then the countries that have retaliated, there are only two.
00:10:23.420 We are in a league unto ourselves, along with the Chinese.
00:10:27.020 Canada and China are the two countries that are actually wanting to go to war against the Americans.
00:10:32.260 Countries that want that may possibly retaliate, haven't decided yet.
00:10:35.820 That would be the European Union.
00:10:38.060 And then the country that is having no retaliation whatsoever is Mexico.
00:10:43.280 So when you look at Mark Carney praising China and then when you look at his leadership and what Canada is doing, it looks like we are aligning ourselves away from the United States.
00:10:55.240 And along with China, I'm sorry, China is not the company that we should be keeping on the international stage. 1.00
00:11:00.880 No wonder China is promoting the Liberal government and Mark Carney because they see Canada as an easy mark, an ally in their war, in their Cold War against the United States.
00:11:12.360 It's unbelievable that this is where we are as a country under the Liberal leadership.
00:11:16.560 What do you make of all this, Sam?
00:11:18.100 I agree with everything you said.
00:11:20.200 And, you know, Candace, I can give insight into records that the Night of the Globe and Mail, CBC or anyone else in Canada had access to.
00:11:28.540 So people can go to the Bureau and see that I reported on CSIS documents that I obtained through leaks because people judged it so important.
00:11:38.360 In 2019, the documents say during the Mun Wanzhou case, these documents say that People's Republic of China Intelligence employed a massively sophisticated operation targeting Canada's election and they calibrated their support.
00:11:55.880 This is key. The document says they favor the Liberal Party leader, Justin Trudeau, and the Liberals, but they calibrated their support among other parties.
00:12:07.060 And it was to secure the release of Mun Wanzhou.
00:12:10.600 So think about what happened. Mun Wanzhou indeed was released back to China.
00:12:15.320 China, as we know from my reporting in the Globe and Mail, indeed interfered pretty deeply.
00:12:22.080 I say very deeply in 2019 and 21.
00:12:25.120 The Hogue Commission says not so deeply.
00:12:27.680 I say the Hogue Commission is just repeating the same narrative that we heard in that press conference on Monday.
00:12:33.620 That is, China is agnostic in targeting Canadian politicians.
00:12:38.580 Sure, they're agnostic and very sophisticated, but the Liberals are favored.
00:12:43.640 Mark Carney is favored, as we just learned.
00:12:46.120 I have just told you, my documents say that Justin Trudeau was favored in 2019.
00:12:51.480 And Candace, he was favored for a long time.
00:12:53.840 So we see that continuity.
00:12:55.440 I'll add another data point that just popped in my mind.
00:12:58.720 Mr. Carney's speech speaking about an admiration of China's system.
00:13:03.820 Who else said something like that?
00:13:05.300 Justin Trudeau should be back in 2016, raise some eyebrows with his admiration of the basic dictatorship of China
00:13:14.000 and what they can achieve with that sense of government.
00:13:17.420 And look, here's my final point.
00:13:19.400 Who is benefiting from Canada going up against the United States?
00:13:25.080 China is benefiting and Mark Carney is benefiting because the Liberal campaign is based upon really what is messages of anti-Americanism.
00:13:35.300 And Candace, you know, I'll be very refined in my answer.
00:13:40.520 I think it's egregious that Canadians are facing tariffs.
00:13:44.820 And yet, I do think, unfortunately, Mexico and Canada are being used in a very sophisticated way by China to transship its products around the world.
00:13:57.100 And that includes fentanyl precursors.
00:13:59.040 So Washington and President Trump do have a deep state-level concern, whether they've said a lot of things that, frankly, messed up our election.
00:14:09.700 I think they did.
00:14:11.100 But, you know, back to your point, Canada and China fighting the U.S. in this global trade war, it looks horrible.
00:14:17.800 And I think it is horrible.
00:14:20.240 Well, it feels like we are on the wrong side of this dispute.
00:14:23.800 I wonder, though, Sam, so you see that your evidence and your research shows that there is deep interference.
00:14:29.000 And yet the Hogue report and the Hogue inquiry sort of tried to brush it under the rug or downplay it.
00:14:35.400 That's what it seemed like from my perspective.
00:14:37.120 And then we had this report, this briefing earlier this week from SITE, where they emphasized that it was both sides, that it was positive and negative.
00:14:47.260 And yet you and your colleague found that there was no negative campaign against the Liberals.
00:14:51.040 It was only positive.
00:14:52.120 So my question is, how deep is this corruption or how deep is the connection with China that even our own intelligence reports, even the people tasked with protecting Canada's institutions and exposing this kind of nefarious activities, that they have to equivocate and pretend that it's not as bad as it is or pretend that it's coming from both sides when the evidence clearly shows that that is not the case? 0.52
00:15:17.380 Should we be worried about our very agencies that are tasked with protecting Canadians and protecting our elections and our democracy?
00:15:25.120 Yeah, I'll answer very carefully.
00:15:27.620 In short, what I do hear from highly connected officials and experts in America and Canada is that people of the greatest integrity in Canadian law enforcement and intelligence and their counterparts in the U.S.
00:15:43.740 have had some concerns about senior government figures in Canada meeting with known suspected Chinese threat actors of the type that are involved in organized crime, of the type that are involved in the money laundering, which the U.S.
00:15:59.680 government is concerned with, that moves, you know, fentanyl, marijuana, human trafficking proceeds around the world.
00:16:07.280 And sure, look, we've got, as some said, a baby step.
00:16:12.560 Actually, I can say proudly, at least Canadians got disclosure this week that China, at the highest level, is targeting communities with disinformation that does favor, or if you take the government's view, target Mark Carney.
00:16:28.520 But you're right, I and others that are very expert in this field say Canada's government and intelligence agencies at the bureaucratic level, very certainly are watering down what their agencies know about the liberals being favored.
00:16:43.920 And you just have to be a smart reader and look at the data points to line up that very clearly, China does favor Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney, and a lot of politicians around them.
00:16:55.840 And, you know, Candace, to your point, I mentioned, you know, I broke the story of this liberal candidate that stunned the world saying his conservative, suggesting his conservative rival could be turned over to the Toronto consulate.
00:17:10.480 And, you know, I don't need to tell you about that story, but what does it reveal?
00:17:15.340 After the Hogue Commission says, not too much to see here, we're on top of it, here we have a candidate come out and shock the world, suggesting his rival can be turned over to the very consulate that I know is at the center of the Chinese police stations, is at the center of money laundering networks, is at the center of supporting certain candidates.
00:17:34.900 And in the Ontario and Toronto area, people that are very expert on, you know, reading Chinese media, looking at photographs, can see that the replacement of Paul Chien is very connected to the very same networks that are very friendly with the Chinese consulate and so-called community leaders with ties to Beijing and with ties I'm alleging and asserting with confidence, unfortunately, ties to organized crime.
00:18:03.660 Well, it's so unbelievable that not just a liberal candidate, right?
00:18:07.840 This person was an elected member of parliament.
00:18:10.820 I'm talking about Paul Chien.
00:18:12.060 He was the MP from Markham Unionville from 2021.
00:18:16.200 So he has been in office.
00:18:18.260 He has been part of Justin Trudeau's liberal caucus for the past four years, right?
00:18:22.200 And it isn't until the middle of the election that it comes out that not only did he say this, you know, originally, Sam, I thought that maybe he had made the comments in a Chinese interview, like a Chinese language interview in one of those papers.
00:18:36.160 And that's why it didn't make the press.
00:18:38.420 But actually, there's footage of it.
00:18:40.160 He's saying it at a lecture, giving a speech to a room full of people.
00:18:43.480 It's on tape and it's in English.
00:18:45.880 And he's saying, you're making the joke and the room is laughing, that we should adhere to this ridiculous Chinese warrant.
00:18:53.580 There's a Chinese communist government warrant out for the arrest of the conservative candidate.
00:18:57.880 And he's saying, turn them over to one of these Chinese police stations. 0.99
00:19:01.680 Just absolutely a disgraceful comment, unbecoming of an elected official.
00:19:05.920 The fact that Paul, sorry, the fact that Mark Carney stuck by the candidate, didn't fire him, said, you know, he's apologized, let's move on.
00:19:13.780 But I want to go on.
00:19:15.440 So they replaced Paul Chung with a candidate that might be even more extreme, Peter Yuan.
00:19:21.100 And you've done some research to expose his connections with a Chinese international school that has been connected to Chinese election interference.
00:19:30.080 I mean, both of these individuals are police officers in Canada.
00:19:33.880 I think this might be the most troubling part, that these are both, both Paul Chung and Peter Yang were police officers in Canada before getting into politics.
00:19:45.920 And then, of course, there is this video of this new liberal candidate singing my Chinese heart, a communist propaganda song, wearing his full police regalia.
00:19:57.820 So in Canadian uniform, making a complete mockery of our country, of our uniform, of our system, praising a Chinese communist regime in a propaganda song. 0.95
00:20:07.680 Let's play a bit of that clip so that viewers remember what that looked like.
00:20:11.220 I mean, when I see this kind of thing, I just feel like Canada is a fallen country, that it is just an absolute farce at this point.
00:20:32.200 It's so frustrating to see that.
00:20:34.160 Now, Sam, tell me, you've uncovered quite a bit about this individual.
00:20:37.080 Why don't you let us know what you found?
00:20:38.620 Right. I mean, just watching the video, any viewer can see, okay, that's problematic, and they may question themselves.
00:20:47.400 Okay, I'm a good Canadian.
00:20:49.060 I believe in multiculturalism.
00:20:50.680 I'll be careful to criticize.
00:20:51.980 But for experts with intelligence agency level knowledge like myself, you look at that video, and you know that the community association that hosts that gala event in 2017, along with the Chinese Consul General, who speaks to all the gathered politicians.
00:21:12.760 politicians, I've reviewed the event, I've reviewed the Consul General report, a number of the politicians alleged by CSIS to be involved in Greater Toronto Election Interference Networks are there.
00:21:24.760 This is what's called United Front Community Groups that work together with the Chinese Toronto Consulate to interfere in Canada. 0.72
00:21:32.120 And so this police officer, Mr. Yuan, who there's no evidence that he's done anything wrong, but he is standing on stage, Candace, with a person that is investigated by the RCMP in alleged Chinese police station activity in Toronto and Vancouver.
00:21:51.320 And for, you know, we don't need to name that person's name, but I've certainly done a lot of work on this community, community leader, others have, people could go on a video and find this, this fellow shaking hands with Xi Jinping at a high level United Front Work Department meeting in Beijing in 2019.
00:22:10.820 All of this is known to the Canadian government, RCMP, CSIS, of course, it's known to our American counterparts.
00:22:17.780 And here we have this elite Toronto police officer singing a patriotic ode, and the key message of the ode, I don't want to get too into the weeds, but it talks about how even though an individual lives far from China, they are still connected, you know, emotionally to China.
00:22:36.460 And Candace, this is what China tries to instill in its United Front Networks around the world. 0.87
00:22:44.400 This is what interference and diaspora repression is about. 0.73
00:22:48.440 And so I'll end my answer here.
00:22:49.960 I believe there's so much more to know about that candidate and other current or former Canadian police officers.
00:22:58.140 But by him joining the board of an international Chinese school, whose students, it came up in Hogue Commission testimony, could have been involved in, you know, one of the writings, and being tasked or threatened by the Chinese consulate officials.
00:23:16.720 What does it say we're seeing all of them together, you know, all the actors together in these stories that I uncovered in the Globe and Mail follow my reporting?
00:23:26.960 And what does it say we have Mr. Carney now favored by China?
00:23:31.660 Like, you just can't add up too many examples before people say, yeah, is our country under threat, especially in this election?
00:23:41.340 And I say yes.
00:23:42.460 Well, I just want to pick up on one thing you said, because you said you're a good Canadian and you believe in multiculturalism.
00:23:47.140 This is the problem with official multiculturalism.
00:23:50.200 And I'll explain the difference, right?
00:23:51.460 Like, for me, I love Canada.
00:23:53.520 And I think part of what makes Canada a special and unique country is that it's always been a collection of people from different parts of the world.
00:24:00.720 Like, being a Canadian doesn't mean you're any specific ethnicity or race.
00:24:04.620 But it means that we've come together in a political association because we have shared values and shared beliefs.
00:24:11.600 And I think that that is properly defined as pluralism, right?
00:24:14.560 We all come together and we believe in one shared ideal of what it means to be Canadian.
00:24:19.420 And then after that, you know, you can practice whatever religion, you can practice whatever kind of ethnic traditions that you have from different parts of the world.
00:24:27.760 That's all well and good.
00:24:28.880 It doesn't matter what you look like, what your race is, what your ethnicity is.
00:24:32.080 What matters is your belief in the Canadian ideal.
00:24:35.600 Under Justin Trudeau and their official multiculturalism, they say everybody's allowed in and you don't have to change a thing about yourself.
00:24:42.160 You can just come to Canada, continue living exactly how you lived in any other part of the world.
00:24:47.040 Bring your values, bring your traditions, your values supersede our values.
00:24:50.580 We don't even have any values in Canada.
00:24:52.520 We don't even have any history or any tradition.
00:24:54.840 The ones that we do are racist and genocidal.
00:24:57.220 We're going to push that to a side and we're going to build something new.
00:25:00.160 And that has been an absolute abjunct failure.
00:25:03.600 And you can see that here where you have officials and people who are still clearly loyal to the communist Chinese government singing about their loyalty, saying that even though they're not in China, they still put China first.
00:25:15.780 China is number one.
00:25:16.980 Canada is way down the list.
00:25:18.380 This has been a failure.
00:25:19.200 This is what Canadians have to reject. 0.71
00:25:21.000 We have to reject open immigration and immigration without any standards. 1.00
00:25:25.420 We have to take our country back and say, yes, you can come to Canada, that's fine, but you have to commit to Canadian values.
00:25:31.040 You have to put Canada first.
00:25:32.560 You have to pledge an oath and swear allegiance to our country and to us.
00:25:37.520 And the fact that liberals won't do that, and they say it's actually racist to do that, and everything that I just said is unacceptable.
00:25:44.400 And if you believe in those things, then you're not purely Canadian.
00:25:47.700 This is the problem.
00:25:48.580 This is part of the reason why, Sam, I believe this is the most important election of our lifetime, because Canadians have to reject that ideology, that ideology of official multiculturalism, that Canada doesn't mean anything and that everyone else gets to come first.
00:26:01.360 I think that I would like to hear Conservatives talk more about this, but I think it's just so important that we move beyond this idea that everybody else comes before Canada.
00:26:13.020 And I think it's important that, especially when you're selecting candidates to represent you in office, that those people show a demonstrated commitment to Canada first.
00:26:22.360 That's not the case for the Liberals.
00:26:24.140 And in fact, it seems that they purposefully recruit candidates that put other countries first, and in this case, it's China.
00:26:32.140 I'll put the last word to you.
00:26:34.280 I mean, I agree with a lot of that.
00:26:37.100 We've been, you could say, indoctrinated in our schooling to certain beliefs.
00:26:43.800 You know, everyone remembers, you know, America is a melting pot.
00:26:47.780 Canada is a tossed salad. 0.76
00:26:49.160 And it seemed, you know, I didn't want to question it for a long time, and I wouldn't need to question it unless we found ourself in this crisis point, where indeed foreign countries have used that system.
00:27:02.460 Foreign intelligence agencies, Candice, here's the point.
00:27:05.680 At these Chinese police stations, the RCMP says, these China is using funding from Heritage Canada and other entities to run, you know, intelligence operations where they welcome Chinese migrants in and gather intelligence off them using Canadian funding.
00:27:25.540 So it's just concrete evidence that what started as sort of a good-hearted honor system to open ourselves to the world, and most people play by the rules, unfortunately, some of the worst and most dangerous networks in the world have taken advantage.
00:27:42.600 And I do believe, I would put, my last word is, I would put blame on an elitist ideology that mostly is sitting in the Liberal Party that promote those sort of, you know, social messaging ideals that many of these wealthy and powerful people in private don't even believe in themselves.
00:28:07.340 But they are promoting those ideologies, and they get a lot of people not to question them, because people are busy, they kind of trust that, you know, the upper elites have everyone's best interests in mind.
00:28:19.900 And I could go on and on, but I do think in different ways, you, I, others are realizing, you know, I want to add this, not to get personal, but within, you know, my extended family, a lot of immigrants,
00:28:34.200 and a lot of them, all of them, want Canada to be stronger and more cohesive, and they say this, they say, look, you've lost your way.
00:28:43.980 Where I'm from in my country would look at Canada and say, you're a broken nation, and essentially countries like China are running all over you. 0.99
00:28:51.600 What are you doing?
00:28:52.940 Well, exactly, and I hope that Canadians are really starting to wake up to that.
00:28:57.120 I don't know what more than, in the middle of an election campaign, our own national security officials admitting that China is meddling in our election, and our prime minister just shrugging his shoulders, saying, well, that's all I have to say about that.
00:29:09.680 I don't know what's happening.
00:29:11.580 Sam, thank you so much for joining us.
00:29:13.340 It's always so illuminating to have you on the show.
00:29:15.720 Thank you for your research and the hard work that you put in to uncover in all these files, and we appreciate your time today.
00:29:21.700 Great.
00:29:22.140 Great to talk.
00:29:23.340 All right.
00:29:23.600 That is Sam Cooper.
00:29:24.580 Go check out his substack over at the Bureau.
00:29:26.780 It is a must-read to keep informed on what is happening in our country.
00:29:31.140 That's all the time we have for today, folks.
00:29:33.040 Thanks so much for tuning in.
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00:29:35.980 I'm Candace Malcolm.
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00:29:37.700 Thank you, and God bless.