Juno News - Parliament returns as Carney warns of WORSE deficit

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. It is Monday, September 15th, 2025. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, filling in for Candace this Monday. Thank you so much for making us a part of your day and your work week. We hope that you're energized and ready to fight for changes. Speaking of fighting for changes, they're back.

00:00:26.280 Ottawa's House of Commons is back in session. That means that more than 300 members of Parliament from all around Canada are now gathering in the nation's capital. They're back in the House of Commons. They're going to be doing question period. They're going to be arguing about things like debts, deficits, and how to spend your money.

00:00:46.300 And also, very importantly, they're going to be arguing about things like the looming ban on the sale of normal gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles.

00:00:55.680 They're going to be arguing in committee for lots of things that affect both your basic fundamental rights, like freedom of expression, and things that hit your wallet, like how much they're going to be spending.

00:01:07.680 Are they going to be adding to the debt? It actually sounds grim. It sounds like Prime Minister Mark Carney is trying to prepare people for an enormous deficit, meaning adding more money onto the federal debt than they were even planning to do.

00:01:25.000 And folks, for those of us who have had a troubling last few days because of what we saw happen in the United States, we're here for you, okay?

00:01:35.820 You're not alone. I want everybody to know that you're not alone.

00:01:40.360 So I just want to encourage people to reach out to their friends and family. You can talk about stuff like this, okay? It's important to talk about things like this and to mark when bad things happen.

00:01:52.780 What I find helps, personally, is really putting my shoulder to the wheel in order to push for positive changes.

00:01:59.740 So that includes, in my world, holding government to account, telling our elected members of parliament, parliament literally means like to speak, okay?

00:02:12.160 To speak for us, to truly stand up for us, to say things like, we are tired of having nearly half of our incomes taken from us by various levels of government, and we want lower taxes.

00:02:26.540 We are tired of seeing government wasting money on absurd things, and we are done with it. We want you to stop doing that.

00:02:38.340 We are tired, for example, of government-funded media.

00:02:43.680 Journalists should never be paid by the government.

00:02:47.000 And you know what? It's not just the CBC.

00:02:49.520 The vast majority of what we would call the mainstream media or legacy media are on the government dole now.

00:02:58.880 I'm sorry, that's not journalism.

00:03:01.500 That, by definition, is Pravda.

00:03:04.220 That's just propaganda.

00:03:06.060 So, we've also got a looming ban on the sale of normal gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles.

00:03:12.600 We can't afford this.

00:03:14.080 We don't have the money for this.

00:03:15.280 We don't have the electricity to charge these battery-powered cars.

00:03:19.260 And lastly, it's not supposed to be up to the government what kind of vehicle you purchase and you choose to drive.

00:03:25.440 You need to be able to purchase vehicles that suit what you need for your work and your family.

00:03:31.040 So, a lot of very important topics are coming to a head very quickly in Ottawa.

00:03:38.520 How are we going to handle this?

00:03:40.720 How are we going to achieve these wins?

00:03:43.200 Let's find out.

00:03:43.880 Joining me now is Franco Terrazzano.

00:03:46.620 He is the federal director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:03:50.000 He's living in Ottawa.

00:03:51.120 He's also one of my best friends in the whole wide world.

00:03:53.540 Franco, just give us a feeling of what it's like right now.

00:03:57.280 Like, what's the vibe out there?

00:03:58.780 I know there's lots of members of Parliament that are back on Parliament Hill.

00:04:02.000 They're getting geared up for question period.

00:04:03.880 What's it feeling like?

00:04:05.320 Yeah, the circus is back in town.

00:04:07.280 And look, there's always a lot of noise going on, right?

00:04:09.900 Like, what are the big fights going to be?

00:04:11.300 But I think there's going to be two big fights right around the corner during this session of Parliament.

00:04:17.000 Number one, the budget.

00:04:18.980 We don't know exactly when the budget is going to be.

00:04:21.220 We expect it to be sometime this fall, maybe October, maybe even November.

00:04:25.120 Who knows with this government?

00:04:26.400 But I think that's going to be a massive fight.

00:04:28.820 And it has to be.

00:04:29.700 Because our finances, the government's finances, are an absolute mess.

00:04:34.240 Okay?

00:04:34.620 Interest charges on the debt costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every single week.

00:04:40.940 Okay?

00:04:41.380 A brand new hospital.

00:04:42.980 Poof.

00:04:43.480 Gone.

00:04:43.960 Loss to the debt interest charges.

00:04:45.820 The second big fight that I think is heating up is that if Carney's serious in any way about fixing the budget, you know, I won't hold my breath.

00:04:54.340 But if he's serious in any way, then the big fight also is going to be with the bureaucracy.

00:04:58.980 As you already see, government union bosses playing chicken little, running around, claiming the sky will fall if the federal government finally fires some bureaucrats and save taxpayers some money.

00:05:09.560 Yeah, we've got a lot on that.

00:05:11.480 And we have a few clips to play for our viewers and for our listeners.

00:05:14.680 Now, this is a little while ago.

00:05:16.700 It isn't just this morning.

00:05:18.020 But this is Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:05:20.540 And this is classic, trying to soften the blow of, oh, you know that bad budget we were expecting?

00:05:27.160 Yeah, it's going to be worse.

00:05:28.920 Let's listen to this.

00:05:30.720 Your House leader said this morning that the deficit will be, quote, substantial.

00:05:34.000 How big are we talking and what does that mean for future cuts?

00:05:36.360 Yeah, thank you for the question.

00:05:38.260 I responded a bit, but I'll recap it.

00:05:41.480 Substantial means it'll be bigger than it was last year.

00:05:44.740 So, Franco, can you explain just how we cannot afford a bigger deficit?

00:05:50.440 Yeah, well, let's start, number one, with the interest charges on the debt, right?

00:05:54.140 I already mentioned that the interest payments on the government credit card are costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every single week.

00:06:02.580 More than $1 billion, okay?

00:06:04.600 So what's $1 billion?

00:06:05.820 Well, that's a brand new hospital, okay?

00:06:08.100 So essentially, we're losing out on a brand new hospital every single week because of the massive government borrowing and debt interest charge problem.

00:06:16.480 But let me just put it into further context, okay?

00:06:18.560 Think about this in two ways.

00:06:20.180 Every dollar that you paid in federal sales tax last year went to pay interest charges on the debt, right?

00:06:26.780 Think about that next time you're standing in the checkout line, that every dollar you're paying in federal sales tax is not going to services, not improving the roads, right?

00:06:34.940 Not increasing class sizes.

00:06:36.460 That money is just going to the bond fund managers on Bay Street to service the debt.

00:06:40.800 The next little comparison, okay, the federal government wasted more money paying interest on the debt than what it sent to the provinces in health transfers last year.

00:06:51.800 Okay, so think about this massive government debt problem that we have and think about what we could be doing without this debt, okay?

00:06:58.620 We could essentially remove the federal sales tax or double federal health transfer.

00:07:04.160 So the government has really got itself into a huge mess because of out-of-control spending over the last decade.

00:07:09.900 And now hearing Carney saying that the deficit could grow?

00:07:12.960 I mean, that's crazy.

00:07:14.000 We're not in a pandemic.

00:07:14.980 What is going on here, folks?

00:07:16.120 Yeah, there's, you know, aliens aren't invading.

00:07:19.460 Just doing some quick math in my head, a billion dollars a week, that's equivalent to the full-time salaries of about 5,000 cops plus 5,000 paramedics.

00:07:29.080 The annual salaries per week, that's what we're blowing on interest payments.

00:07:33.600 That is wild.

00:07:35.240 I wanted to get your reaction to this as well because you and I at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation,

00:07:40.100 one of the main things we're fighting federally is just the enormous size of the bureaucracy.

00:07:46.120 Like, the one stat that always blows my mind that you told me, and I just still can't wrap my head around it,

00:07:52.280 is you did the math or you figured out the math.

00:07:54.700 Somebody in your circle there did.

00:07:56.840 And if we had kept pace with the growth of population, we'd be saving, like, billions with, like, an S, billions per year.

00:08:06.320 Seven billion a year, okay?

00:08:08.220 Okay, we would have 60,000 fewer paper pushers in Ottawa, and taxpayers would be saving $7 billion every single year

00:08:15.360 if the bureaucracy had just grown in line with population over the last decade.

00:08:19.700 Folks, listen to how crazy, how big, how bloated the federal government has become.

00:08:24.380 The feds have added about 100,000 extra bureaucrats since 2016, about 100,000 extra federal paper pushers. 0.67

00:08:31.980 The cost of the bureaucracy has gone up 77%, right?

00:08:37.860 Now, ask yourself, are you getting anywhere close to 77% better services from the federal government and the federal bureaucracy?

00:08:45.620 Of course not.

00:08:46.700 And it's not just anecdotal here.

00:08:48.480 We actually commissioned a Leger poll that shows that half of Canadians say federal services have gotten worse since 2016,

00:08:57.660 despite the bureaucracy costs going up 77%.

00:08:59.860 So, you know, Simmer, clearly adding more government bureaucrats does not mean better outcomes for Canadians.

00:09:07.320 So far, unfortunately, it looks like Prime Minister Mark Carney is caving.

00:09:13.380 Looks like he's wussing out because he was asked about the size of the bureaucracy,

00:09:18.000 and he used the word attrition instead of actual cuts.

00:09:22.080 Let's listen to this.

00:09:22.920 The cap relates to the level, yeah, the overall level and the adjustments that will happen naturally through attrition.

00:09:34.060 There's a certain age cohort in the public sector.

00:09:39.100 You know, people leave employment, whether it's in the public or private sector, for a variety of reasons.

00:09:44.840 Attractive opportunities outside, retirement on the other side.

00:09:49.400 So we'll be managing, we'll be managing through that.

00:09:52.920 You know, translation there, Franco, is let's do nothing.

00:09:57.320 That's literally what that means.

00:09:58.700 Of like, oh, I don't actually need to wait in there and make some cuts and tell people that you have a pink slip and we're reducing people.

00:10:04.020 No, no.

00:10:04.700 Can't we just let nature take its course, put our heads in the sand and do nothing?

00:10:08.400 Is this going to cut it?

00:10:10.200 Chris, if I gained 100 pounds in one year and I said, don't worry, you know what, I'm just going to maintain my body weight,

00:10:18.760 you would be like, Franco, I love you, but you got to do some cardio, okay?

00:10:23.320 You got to start running 5K.

00:10:25.080 We're going to fat camp, my friend.

00:10:26.980 This is what we're doing.

00:10:28.340 You're going to have to do some sit-ups, some crunches, some push-ups.

00:10:30.940 And, you know, rightfully so.

00:10:32.520 I mean, look, the government just added 100,000 extra bureaucrats in a decade.

00:10:36.920 And now they think attrition is going to cut it.

00:10:39.280 It won't cut it.

00:10:40.280 It's not even close, right?

00:10:41.520 We got to cut the number of federal bureaucrats immediately and significantly.

00:10:47.220 Now, let's bring in the political element here, okay?

00:10:49.500 Because Carney has tried to sell himself during the election and now as the practical guy, right?

00:10:55.440 He's just a practical guy.

00:10:56.780 He's the numbers guy.

00:10:57.820 He's going to come in here, look at the data, and do the right thing.

00:11:01.340 But what this shows me is that he is succumbing to the political pressure within the liberal caucus, okay?

00:11:07.720 Some of his liberal backbenchers, maybe some ministers, maybe Carney himself, who has a riding in Ottawa,

00:11:14.900 is succumbing to the pressure of the government union bosses.

00:11:18.160 Because, look, if you look at the data where the federal government added 100,000 bureaucrats in a decade,

00:11:23.200 where the federal bureaucracy costs gone up 77% a decade,

00:11:26.900 and yet Canadians are still getting lackluster, poor, brutal services from the federal government,

00:11:32.000 anyone who's being objective or practical will look at these numbers and say attrition is not serious.

00:11:37.720 We have to significantly shrink the size and cost of the federal bureaucracy.

00:11:42.740 Now, to stay with this political element for a second here,

00:11:45.740 you know, I really do hope that the conservatives, the official opposition under Pierre Polyev,

00:11:50.620 who now is in a riding in Alberta, will now feel like they are justified to go after and hold the Carney government accountable.

00:11:58.740 Because, look, taxpayers can't keep paying for an unaffordable, bloated federal bureaucracy.

00:12:03.400 So, I think Carney needs to backtrack off of this.

00:12:06.220 I think he has to roll up his sleeves and actually cut the number of bureaucrats.

00:12:09.660 And I think Mr. Polyev and his official opposition need to hold the government accountable

00:12:14.340 and push for cuts further and faster.

00:12:16.680 Yep.

00:12:17.320 No longer will Pierre Polyev have in the back of his mind,

00:12:20.940 oh, what about those Manitic mansions that are full of bureaucrats 1.00

00:12:24.640 that I'm going to be trying to door knock on next time?

00:12:27.080 He isn't representing that riding anymore.

00:12:29.100 He's representing Battle River Crowfoot.

00:12:32.740 Not a lot of federal bureaucrats that are at the doors there. 1.00

00:12:37.400 So, I'm expecting a tone intensification.

00:12:43.640 I won't say change because they were calling for cuts,

00:12:46.120 but I'm expecting that to be amplified big time.

00:12:48.960 We have one more clip to play for our listeners.

00:12:51.440 Speaking of people who have ridings in the National Capital Region,

00:12:54.540 this is the House leader.

00:12:56.680 And for people who, you know, aren't huge political nerds, okay?

00:13:00.700 So, in Parliament Hill, there's more than 300 members of Parliament.

00:13:04.640 They're from different parties and they all sit together in different groups.

00:13:08.020 And within those parties, within those seats in Parliament Hill,

00:13:11.540 there's different kind of jobs that they get.

00:13:14.240 Sometimes they're cabinet ministers

00:13:15.640 and sometimes they actually have a couple of different portfolios.

00:13:19.360 One of them is whip, okay?

00:13:20.740 So, that's the job, like, that's what the term means,

00:13:23.300 to whip them into line, make sure they're all voting the right way,

00:13:26.020 make sure that they've got their butts in their seats

00:13:27.600 at the right time for voting.

00:13:28.880 The other one is called a House leader, okay?

00:13:32.360 This is the government House leader

00:13:34.840 who has a riding right there in Ottawa.

00:13:38.360 The House leader is important

00:13:39.700 because they're the ones that help direct

00:13:42.480 the right answers to the questions

00:13:44.680 and the questions when you're expecting answers on different sides

00:13:47.620 in the House of Commons.

00:13:49.480 Listen to the House leader.

00:13:51.440 We just got this clip this morning.

00:13:53.040 What do you say to Canadians who were voting for you and Mr Carney

00:13:57.260 who said that he will take care of the economy

00:13:59.380 and now you are clearly preparing the groundwork

00:14:02.580 for a substantial deficit and austerity,

00:14:05.360 things that Canadians may not have voted for last spring?

00:14:08.480 Oh, I think we were very realistic.

00:14:10.420 I mean, Canadians certainly had the full financial picture

00:14:13.580 for the previous fiscal year.

00:14:17.160 In terms of what you're telling Canadians, austerity,

00:14:20.000 that is not anything that we have heard in the campaign.

00:14:23.020 And these substantial deficits, not what we heard in the campaign.

00:14:26.080 We talked about spending less and investing more

00:14:28.520 and that's exactly what we continue to talk about.

00:14:31.260 That was interesting, hearing pointed, directional, factual questions

00:14:36.520 coming from the mainstream media.

00:14:37.860 So that was nice to see.

00:14:39.400 Franco, is this what we heard during the election campaign?

00:14:42.780 From what I remember, I remember Mark Carney saying things like

00:14:46.260 he was going to invest, not spend.

00:14:48.320 And he was going to do some budget tricks

00:14:50.020 with splitting it between operational, right?

00:14:53.000 Versus, like, what do they call it?

00:14:54.800 Capital investment.

00:14:56.500 So is this lining up with what we heard during the election?

00:15:00.220 Well, in a sense, kind of only because I think Carney

00:15:03.380 has been about as clear as mud the entire time, right?

00:15:06.820 Like, that's the only reason it kind of does

00:15:08.760 because I think he's been clear as mud the entire time.

00:15:10.860 Like, look, I want to kind of bridge the gap

00:15:12.980 between the debt that we're talking about and the bureaucracy, okay?

00:15:15.360 So number one, let's talk about the debt.

00:15:17.800 If you do look at Carney's election platform,

00:15:20.280 he was planning to add $225 billion to the debt

00:15:24.420 over the next four years.

00:15:26.060 On top of what already happened, $225 billion extra debt.

00:15:29.480 For comparison, that's about $100 billion more of debt

00:15:33.200 than what even Trudeau was planning to do, right?

00:15:36.520 So, you know, Carney, the banker is supposed to be better

00:15:39.060 with the numbers than the drama teacher,

00:15:40.800 yet the banker is planning on adding

00:15:42.400 almost $100 billion more of debt

00:15:45.140 than what even Trudeau was planning.

00:15:47.300 Now, to bring it back to the bureaucracy,

00:15:48.920 is, look, during the election,

00:15:50.580 Carney said he was going to balance the operating budget

00:15:54.040 by, you know, 2028.

00:15:56.200 Number one, if the debt keeps going up,

00:15:59.040 that's not a balanced budget, okay?

00:16:01.180 That is not a balanced budget.

00:16:02.700 If Canadians' kids, grandkids, and, you know, great-grandkids

00:16:06.420 are saddled with one penny more of debt,

00:16:09.160 that's not a balanced budget, okay?

00:16:11.460 Another point here.

00:16:13.040 If Carney's first budget,

00:16:14.760 if Carney spends one penny more than Trudeau,

00:16:18.020 that will be a failure,

00:16:20.560 a complete failure,

00:16:21.800 because after the last decade of runaway spending,

00:16:25.080 finding savings in every area of the budget

00:16:27.600 should be finding water in the ocean.

00:16:30.360 It should be that simple, okay?

00:16:32.180 And the one last thing I'm going to say,

00:16:34.140 it's not just the number of bureaucrats that are a problem, 1.00

00:16:36.680 so are the costs,

00:16:37.940 like the perks, like the bonuses, okay?

00:16:40.060 Remember ArriveCam?

00:16:41.160 Well, that app ballooned from $80,000 to $60 million,

00:16:45.760 and guess what?

00:16:46.620 Those government executives working on that app

00:16:48.680 took in $340,000 in bonuses,

00:16:52.140 and the problem is,

00:16:53.480 that is the rule, not the exception,

00:16:55.780 where the federal government

00:16:56.740 has rubber-stamped $1.5 billion

00:16:59.580 in taxpayer-funded bonuses to bureaucrats since 2015.

00:17:04.760 While they're failing,

00:17:06.120 I have to stress this,

00:17:07.560 while they're failing,

00:17:09.120 they are getting taxpayer-funded bonuses.

00:17:11.480 I want you to,

00:17:12.240 well, we've got a couple minutes left here, Franco.

00:17:14.580 For the six people out there

00:17:17.060 who still think that the government isn't wasting money,

00:17:20.540 and that if they had to,

00:17:21.900 you know,

00:17:22.220 if they actually cut bureaucrat positions,

00:17:24.920 and cut spending,

00:17:26.200 and balance the budget,

00:17:27.480 that we would actually be cutting core services,

00:17:29.940 you know, food for orphans,

00:17:31.440 and, you know, bus passes for war widows,

00:17:34.060 okay,

00:17:34.440 can you get into some of the insane amounts of waste

00:17:37.520 that we have seen? 0.98

00:17:38.620 Like, some of the dumb stuff that comes to mind, 0.94

00:17:41.540 like, just right off the top of my head is, 0.92

00:17:43.760 we spend $100,000 on a documentary

00:17:46.800 about a shopping cart.

00:17:49.320 Like, we spend taxpayers' money

00:17:51.580 so bureaucrats can hold their own departmental podcasts

00:17:55.360 wondering if outer space is sexist.

00:17:58.580 Like, we're not kidding here, folks.

00:18:00.480 Can you just describe

00:18:01.880 some of the crazy amounts of waste?

00:18:04.120 I know we usually try to focus on the small first

00:18:06.540 and get up to the big

00:18:07.820 because it's easier for people to understand.

00:18:10.800 Yeah, okay.

00:18:11.340 How about this one, right?

00:18:12.320 So, look, you talked about a research project,

00:18:16.220 $100,000 to study the birth, life,

00:18:18.200 and death of a grocery cart.

00:18:20.560 I mean, maybe just phone up bubbles

00:18:22.020 from Trailer Park Boys,

00:18:23.380 give them a stick of pepperoni,

00:18:24.580 and there you go, problem solved.

00:18:26.360 How about this?

00:18:26.960 That's $20,000 to study gender politics 1.00

00:18:31.260 of Peruvian rock music.

00:18:34.420 Then there's your favorite waste of money, right?

00:18:36.320 We talk about this all the time,

00:18:37.320 the $8,800 for a sex toy show in Germany.

00:18:40.420 Chris, I'm not going to make you say it. 0.75

00:18:41.840 I know you hate it when I ask, 0.93

00:18:43.180 but $8,800 for a sex toy show in Germany.

00:18:46.160 The show was called Whose Is This?

00:18:49.600 Paid for by Canadian taxpayers.

00:18:51.840 How about this?

00:18:52.300 $12,000 so seniors in other countries

00:18:55.520 could talk about their sex lives

00:18:56.880 in front of live audiences.

00:18:59.220 And, Chris, this wasn't even Canadian seniors, right?

00:19:01.940 The economy apparently has gotten so bad

00:19:04.040 over the last decade

00:19:05.260 that the federal government

00:19:06.220 is now outsourcing old people sex stories.

00:19:10.160 Let me give you another example

00:19:11.520 of a waste of money,

00:19:12.480 and, you know, I don't care.

00:19:13.640 I'm just going to call out

00:19:14.400 all political parties right now,

00:19:16.300 is the raises that MPs give themselves

00:19:18.840 every single year.

00:19:20.160 Okay, so since 2020,

00:19:22.160 the beginning of 2020,

00:19:23.540 all MPs have taken six pay raises,

00:19:26.940 while their constituents have struggled

00:19:28.440 through pandemic government lockdowns, okay,

00:19:32.260 through an inflation crisis.

00:19:34.220 Now this trade war with the United States,

00:19:37.200 MPs have continued to stuff more pay

00:19:39.000 in their own pockets,

00:19:40.080 paid for by taxpayers.

00:19:41.520 A couple other examples.

00:19:43.140 The government spent $8 million

00:19:45.000 building a barn at Rideau Hall.

00:19:47.900 Okay, crazy.

00:19:49.400 Or how about this one?

00:19:50.720 If you look at all the corporate welfare

00:19:52.340 the federal government hands out,

00:19:54.380 federal corporate welfare

00:19:55.320 is costing taxpayers

00:19:56.420 about $11 billion a year.

00:19:59.080 So that means federal subsidies

00:20:00.780 to corporations

00:20:01.820 is costing, you know,

00:20:03.400 the average Canadian family of four

00:20:05.160 more than $1,100 a year.

00:20:09.200 Gross.

00:20:10.120 That is unbelievable. 0.93

00:20:12.040 Just think of all the families of four

00:20:13.740 that you know, right?

00:20:15.360 Think about them in your neighborhood.

00:20:16.520 Add an $1,100 annual price tag onto that.

00:20:21.460 That is just crazy.

00:20:23.040 All right, Franco,

00:20:23.680 while we're wrapping up here,

00:20:25.320 you're, so is it fair to say then

00:20:27.080 that you see the looming budget, okay,

00:20:29.680 and the fight to balance it,

00:20:31.720 the size of the bureaucracy

00:20:32.940 as the main fights

00:20:34.580 going into the House of Commons?

00:20:35.860 Do you think that the fight

00:20:37.220 against the ban on the sale of gasoline

00:20:40.060 and diesel-powered vehicles,

00:20:41.440 is that going to be front and center too?

00:20:43.380 Will we be able to, like,

00:20:44.640 have more than one focus?

00:20:46.680 Oh, yeah.

00:20:47.280 So we've already mentioned

00:20:48.340 a couple focuses,

00:20:49.180 the budget coming

00:20:49.960 and the massive debt problem

00:20:51.600 that we're in

00:20:52.260 and going to try to get ourselves out of.

00:20:54.000 We also mentioned

00:20:54.920 the fight with the bureaucracy,

00:20:56.140 the greedy government union bosses, right?

00:20:58.380 So let me just give a couple more.

00:21:00.220 And let me actually frame it

00:21:01.680 with just within the economy

00:21:03.300 and natural resources, okay?

00:21:04.940 And there's two fights

00:21:06.160 within that broader category.

00:21:07.880 The first one is the ban

00:21:09.700 on the sale of new gas

00:21:10.680 and diesel vehicles by 2035.

00:21:13.160 So Carney is announcing

00:21:14.280 that he is delaying it by a year

00:21:16.760 because that was, you know,

00:21:18.100 that was supposed to start

00:21:18.940 to kick in in 2026,

00:21:20.740 but he's going to delay it by a year

00:21:22.240 and do a 60-day review.

00:21:24.420 Number one, not good enough.

00:21:26.280 This is a horrible policy.

00:21:27.720 Maybe the biggest taxpayer boondoggle yet.

00:21:30.600 The government must completely scrap it.

00:21:33.140 Number two, Carney says

00:21:34.640 he's doing a 60-day review on this.

00:21:36.580 Well, you know what?

00:21:37.300 That review better not turn

00:21:38.840 into backroom negotiations

00:21:40.260 where the government uses

00:21:41.320 billions of taxpayer dollars

00:21:42.760 in the form of corporate welfare

00:21:43.960 to try to woo these corporations

00:21:45.740 to get in line.

00:21:47.020 But even beyond that, Chris,

00:21:48.380 you're hearing a lot of talk

00:21:49.360 about this major project office, right?

00:21:51.700 The government trying to fast-track

00:21:53.340 a couple natural resource projects.

00:21:56.380 Well, here's the thing.

00:21:58.000 Taxpayers, Canadians,

00:21:59.120 we don't need politicians

00:22:00.200 and bureaucrats pretending 0.62

00:22:01.500 like they know which project

00:22:03.340 is in the national interest, okay?

00:22:05.960 We need these politicians

00:22:07.380 and bureaucrats

00:22:08.080 to get out of the way

00:22:08.960 to cut the regulations

00:22:10.420 that are making it almost impossible

00:22:12.440 for us to build

00:22:13.500 major natural resource projects

00:22:15.080 here in Canada.

00:22:15.940 That means getting rid of Bill C-69,

00:22:18.200 the No More Pipelines law,

00:22:19.660 Bill C-48,

00:22:20.600 the discriminatory tanker ban,

00:22:22.220 and scrapping all carbon taxes.

00:22:25.740 Yeah, big time.

00:22:27.020 I'll put a bow on it here.

00:22:30.040 I don't want people to get confused

00:22:32.280 when they're hearing

00:22:33.380 Prime Minister Mark Carney

00:22:34.520 talking about building big things.

00:22:36.880 We don't want the government

00:22:38.760 to use taxpayers' money

00:22:40.780 to build the big things.

00:22:42.320 That isn't the answer here.

00:22:43.800 As Franco has so illustrated so well,

00:22:46.920 we don't have the money to do this.

00:22:48.640 We have un-money, okay?

00:22:50.240 So A, we don't have the money for this.

00:22:52.260 B, government is terrible

00:22:53.920 at doing things, like awful.

00:22:56.140 It's going to wind up

00:22:57.120 going way over budget

00:22:58.040 like we saw

00:22:59.060 when Kinder Morgan walked away

00:23:00.680 and Canadian taxpayers

00:23:02.200 had to take over

00:23:03.040 building the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:23:04.740 It wound up going way over budget

00:23:06.420 and it never should have happened.

00:23:08.060 The issue here

00:23:08.880 is that normal, like,

00:23:12.220 investors, okay,

00:23:13.480 around the world

00:23:14.220 who have money to spend

00:23:16.220 are looking around the world

00:23:17.880 of where they want

00:23:19.120 to put their wallet down.

00:23:21.160 Which park bench in the world

00:23:22.900 are they comfortable

00:23:24.020 putting their wallet down?

00:23:25.420 Where they will trust

00:23:26.400 that it's going to be safeguarded

00:23:28.120 and their investment

00:23:29.080 will turn into good things

00:23:30.440 like functioning seaports,

00:23:32.980 like a pipeline, right?

00:23:35.520 Canada has broken that trust

00:23:37.640 for the past 10 years.

00:23:39.020 Now, these people with money

00:23:40.680 are like,

00:23:41.100 I'm not putting my money there.

00:23:42.920 They need to fix that problem.

00:23:45.120 This isn't a government

00:23:46.200 isn't building things

00:23:47.320 enough problem.

00:23:48.380 This is government

00:23:49.120 has made it so that,

00:23:50.500 you know,

00:23:50.740 no big investors

00:23:51.660 trust Canada enough

00:23:53.260 with their money problem.

00:23:54.920 So I'm glad to hear

00:23:57.000 them talking about,

00:23:57.980 you know, big projects

00:23:58.820 and getting our stuff

00:23:59.600 out to market

00:24:00.080 because it helps taxpayers

00:24:01.240 that would help our economy

00:24:02.420 and help workers.

00:24:03.720 But they got to do things

00:24:04.940 the right way, man.

00:24:06.360 Franco, thank you so much

00:24:07.560 for joining us today.

00:24:08.500 We really appreciate it.

00:24:09.960 Have fun up on Parliament Hill

00:24:11.460 and give them heck. 1.00

00:24:13.060 Hey, Chris. 0.73

00:24:13.500 Always a pleasure.

00:24:14.240 Thank you.

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Juno News - September 15, 2025

Parliament returns as Carney warns of WORSE deficit

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