Juno News - May 15, 2022


Pastor speaks out after bikers church with ties to Freedom Convoy vandalized


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On the last weekend of May 1st, 2022, the largest pro-Freedom event to take place in the capital of Canada since the Freedom Convoy was forcibly removed from the streets of the capital, the Rolling Thunder Motorcycle Convoy, was held in the city of Ottawa. Pastor Rob Mckee of the Capital City Bikers Church, a church that had been vandalized with hateful graffiti, tells the story of the incident, and how the church responded.

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00:00:00.800 on the last weekend of april 2022 rolling thunder bike convoy demonstrations took place in ottawa to
00:00:08.560 celebrate canadian freedoms this was the largest pro-freedom event to take place in the capitol
00:00:15.280 since the freedom convoy which was forcibly removed following the invocation of the emergencies act
00:00:21.520 by prime minister justin trudeau rolling thunder organizers had planned three days of programming
00:00:28.320 beginning on friday april 29th with a rally in march on parliament hill and ending sunday may 1st
00:00:35.120 with a church service at the capital city bikers church however people arrived to a church that
00:00:42.480 had been vandalized with hateful graffiti i had the opportunity to sit down and speak with pastor rob
00:00:48.400 mckee about the incident rolling thunder and the freedom convoy how mandates and restrictions have
00:00:54.480 affected their church and its members as well as the work they do in the community i was especially
00:01:00.720 grateful to be able to do this interview given that pastor mckee had turned down requests from the legacy
00:01:08.320 media thank you so much pastor for joining me today uh how about we start off with you telling me a bit
00:01:15.520 about your church its history its beliefs and the people it attracted yeah well this church has been
00:01:20.880 in existence since uh since actually 1993 it was a church plant from uh a church called the life
00:01:28.000 center we were planted in the inner city of ottawa called the downtown church and in 2000 ended up
00:01:35.280 purchasing this building and moving from the core into vanier and in finding really a forever home
00:01:41.840 bikers church was a church birthed in 2002 a guy named hillbilly garner foster was the founder and his
00:01:49.600 wife nelia out of a life of addiction and drugs and the motorcycle culture had a radical encounter 1.00
00:01:55.920 with jesus that changed his life and he said i want bikers to experience this so he thought he wanted to
00:02:01.520 to create a space where bikers would actually feel comfortable in coming to church to experience the 0.90
00:02:07.040 jesus that he experienced so in 2002 bikers church was birthed and they were kind of nomads throughout the 0.99
00:02:13.360 city they were meeting in various locations until 2007 they found this location and became the
00:02:20.400 permanent resident uh on thursday nights and then what happened probably about a couple years later the
00:02:27.440 two churches really merged and became one and so really now we just call ourselves venue bikers church
00:02:32.400 so why did your church decide to get involved with rolling thunder ottawa i mean i know you you talked about
00:02:37.680 before i think before we started this interview uh you talked about getting involved with bike different
00:02:43.200 bike rallies this bike rally had kind of a motive behind it uh why was that important for you to
00:02:49.280 support this particular bike event well it's funny when it comes to the rolling thunder we weren't even
00:02:55.200 really aware that they put our our service time on their poster our service time is public knowledge
00:03:02.000 uh i was contacted after that and asked if i would actually pray at their ride and again being a
00:03:07.920 bikers church and our ministry is being bikers uh i thought that's a great opportunity to to show them
00:03:14.880 god's love to pray peace and safety over over their ride and so i did i prayed over their ride on the
00:03:21.440 saturday morning um and again they had went ahead and put it on their schedule that anybody that was
00:03:29.440 sticking around if you want a church service you got to go and check out this bikers church uh place 1.00
00:03:34.880 and so we were unaware but we we have a a great team here that rallied around and we didn't know what
00:03:41.600 to expect uh and so we had a team that was ready to serve anybody who came in and again that's our
00:03:47.520 motto anybody can walk in our door and we're going to love them regardless of their lifestyle
00:03:51.920 regardless of where they've been what they've been through because we feel that reflects the heart of
00:03:56.240 jesus there's absolutely no judgment and everything we do is try to foster an environment where somebody
00:04:02.160 can come in that's hurting that's broken that's lonely that's unlovable that's an outcast that or
00:04:08.480 is an up-and-comer and and has their life all together where they can kind of really flesh it out
00:04:13.760 what it really means to have a relationship with jesus in a safe place uh so can you describe the
00:04:21.440 uh the acts of vandalism that like in detail from from what you've seen that took place at the church
00:04:29.360 it's it's happened actually a couple times and so the first time was back in february when
00:04:33.680 again we were just doing what we normally do as a church every day our doors are open for anybody to
00:04:38.320 come in to get food and to get clothing um and we were doing that and because of that some people from
00:04:44.080 the from the truckers convoy they found their way in here and got themselves a hot meal and some
00:04:49.600 people didn't like that they didn't like that they thought that maybe we were harboring or we were
00:04:53.920 creating a a place for them to come and to plan and to strategize and really it was doing what we do
00:05:01.360 every single day just kind of loving on people the best that we know how and that got some attention
00:05:08.080 and some of the people in the vanier community didn't like that and i actually caught a gentleman
00:05:14.320 taping some signs to the door and that was quite interesting he he threatened to kill me
00:05:21.280 signs like nazis nests burn them out really explicit language you have no bleep in place here 0.98
00:05:28.240 get the bleep out of here i'm going to effing kill you and so the police were involved with that and then 0.99
00:05:34.080 this coming past sunday we when i rolled up to the church at around 6 6 30 because i knew it was going 0.98
00:05:40.480 to be a busy day so i wanted to get a lot of stuff done and i saw the sign the the spray painting right
00:05:45.040 away on the on the wall and i just kind of thought well all right okay we must be doing something right
00:05:50.720 if people don't like the people were welcoming me in i think one of the greatest knocks on jesus was
00:05:55.840 they really didn't like who he hung out with and again we don't discriminate and anybody who comes in
00:06:01.520 our doors is is more than welcome to find themselves a safe place so you talked earlier about the
00:06:07.680 freedom convoy and you said that you you know you came and you gave people some food is there anything
00:06:12.400 else that you did throughout the freedom convoy to maybe help the truckers or no we we just our
00:06:17.280 building was open and like it's open every single day uh so there was nothing different on our part
00:06:23.040 it's just instead of some venue people that were coming in we had some we had some truckers coming in
00:06:28.880 and a lot of them came in for our service on a thursday night they came for our service on a sunday
00:06:33.120 morning because believe it or not a lot of them had a faith background uh and i think to a lot of
00:06:38.960 people painted uh every single participant with a pretty broad brush and uh when that wasn't it at
00:06:46.720 all and so the people that we met were kind of some really incredible people and uh they became friends
00:06:52.880 and we still stay in contact with them today and uh their hearts were amazing and uh yeah so it was it
00:06:59.600 was quite interesting to see the perspective and uh the image that was portrayed by media when
00:07:07.760 i thought they totally missed the mark so you know the freedom convoy and part part of the reason why
00:07:15.520 this rolling thunder happened is because of government mandates uh for the last two years canadians cannot
00:07:21.520 have been put under some of the harshest restrictions in the western world especially in ontario and in quebec
00:07:27.360 uh have government restrictions including lockdowns and vaccine mandates affected your churchness
00:07:35.280 members and if yes how yeah i think right from the very get-go the first lockdown that we experienced
00:07:41.040 when it was new to everybody nobody knew what was happening so everybody kind of went along with it
00:07:45.840 and we we shut down we went to online and we pivoted really quick we've got a great tech team here so we
00:07:52.080 were able to pivot really quick and uh tried to keep connection with with a lot of people but it
00:07:58.560 it didn't take long before we deal with a pretty broken congregation and community where a lot of
00:08:04.320 people that that are needed and this is their lifeline and to take that away from them um even for a month
00:08:11.040 is what was harsh and a lot of them found that very hard and so uh we adhered the first lockdown and then
00:08:17.920 we were able to open up again the second lockdown came and we said you know what this is hard and
00:08:22.880 so we started to get phone calls and say i can't do this again i'm alone i'm gonna relapse i i just
00:08:28.000 can i just come and sit in church and we just made it a point and say yeah you can yeah just come and
00:08:33.840 sit if you need to be here and need to be amongst our small little tech team that was here was great
00:08:39.200 and i think what really did it for me is we had the opportunity to kind of connect with a a young girl
00:08:43.920 that just came out of the sex trafficking industry and she got connected here at the church and her
00:08:49.360 life was getting radically turned around she she was there was joy and there was healing that was
00:08:54.560 happening and and then we entered the first lockdown and because she was in a safe house we had no
00:08:59.920 contact for her we couldn't reach out to her we had no information on her just just her name and uh the
00:09:06.960 lockdown came and it went and i got a phone call probably about a a month not about two weeks after
00:09:14.320 the lockdown lifted and it was from this girl's grandmother just calling to thank is this the
00:09:19.600 bikers church is this pastor rob want to let you know our granddaughter loved it there i said oh my
00:09:24.720 goodness i'm so glad you called we've not been able to get a hold of her and she said that's actually
00:09:30.480 why i'm calling um with that loss of community and that that safe place that she had she kind of fell
00:09:38.160 back into some old ways of her life and she actually just lost her life to an overdose and and that just
00:09:43.040 kind of floored me i thought no we we can't have this we cannot have this and and so we saw numerous
00:09:51.840 overdoses people losing their life again dealing with a lot of people that are coming out of a life of
00:09:58.000 addiction it was hard and so we just made it a point saying if you need to be in church our doors
00:10:03.600 are open and our motto was we've got room for one more that's uh that's very unfortunate i've heard
00:10:11.600 i've heard a lot of lockdown stories it's probably one of the uh one of the saddest ones and it's just
00:10:18.240 i think in my opinion showed the lack of and it was a micro vision only one without understanding that
00:10:27.120 church i think at least in my opinion and church is essential and mental health is essential i know
00:10:32.000 the police has opened an investigation into the matter uh are there any updates that you've been
00:10:36.560 given perhaps do you maybe have an idea of who's behind us no we again uh being uh such a big presence
00:10:45.120 in the neighborhood you you have people that like what you do and people that don't like what you do
00:10:49.520 and so we feel a lot of the the stuff that that stems from some neighbors that aren't happy about
00:10:55.200 what we do and we're just going to do our best to continue to build a bridge to them uh the police
00:10:59.840 have been fantastic uh every single officer that's come here uh even the ones that were here on sunday
00:11:05.920 and that were sent by the city as liaisons they were they were great when i called about the the
00:11:12.080 graffiti they responded within the half hour had a forensic team down here taking photos and said hey we're
00:11:18.000 going to work with you i've already got a a phone call from the detective who's been assigned the
00:11:22.800 case who's actually the same detective who worked on our first uh incident and so no they've been
00:11:28.400 top-notch nothing as of yet uh has has come of it um and i don't think we'll be we'll be informed i
00:11:36.720 said i don't need to be informed unless you feel i need to be what do you personally have to say to the
00:11:43.440 person or the people that did this or maybe that did it last time i would just say you're forgiven
00:11:48.720 uh and again we'd love for you to actually really come in and see what we do on on a daily basis and
00:11:54.880 and the stuff that we do for the community our free store our bread giveaway our food giveaway the
00:12:00.480 different events that we do from santa through the community through our backpack giveaway our back
00:12:05.440 to school block party uh and i would just say let's have a conversation come on in the coffee's on me
00:12:10.240 and we'll have a chat uh pastor thank you so much for um sitting down with me today and sharing
00:12:17.200 a bit about your church and rolling thunder and how lockdowns have affected your community i really
00:12:23.360 appreciate it oh you're so welcome and thank you for coming following our interview pastor rob gave
00:12:28.880 me a tour of his church showing me the different services it has to offer to me this showed that church
00:12:34.720 is much more than just a place where people gather on sunday morning it is an essential part of so many
00:12:40.720 people's lives for true north i'm illy cantenantel