Juno News - October 17, 2022


Phantom honking and ＂microaggressions＂ - Highlights from week 1 of the Emergencies Act inquiry


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7 minutes

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1,103

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90

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In this episode, we discuss the impact of living through the anti-police protests in the streets of New York City in January and February of 2014. We speak with two witnesses to the events that took place in and around the Red Zone.

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00:00:00.000 Now, I want to speak a little bit about the impacts that living through the protests of January and February had on both of you.
00:00:08.660 Ms. Dallarant, can you describe for the Commissioner what was the impact, if any, on your physical well-being?
00:00:17.660 The impact on my physical well-being is quite extensive.
00:00:23.320 I certainly, during the experience, had difficulty sleeping.
00:00:32.560 I had an effect on my lungs and my throat because of the fumes and other smells.
00:00:39.920 And I also have long-term effects.
00:00:43.400 Can you describe those for us?
00:00:45.440 The long-term effects are loss of hearing, loss of balance, some vertical, triggered by the sound of any horn now, triggered by certain music, as the music was very loud,
00:01:08.300 and a physical trigger when I get a smell of gas.
00:01:14.700 Both my throat and lungs start to feel infected.
00:01:20.460 I had also a phantom horn blowing as an experience for a number of weeks after.
00:01:30.500 On these intersections, oftentimes there were illegal bonfires and, yeah, just trash burning right next to, you know, cans of fuel
00:01:42.460 or near the same areas where these individuals would later set off fireworks.
00:01:49.760 And I just remember feeling like it was such a surreal sight.
00:01:54.640 It almost felt like you were in something like The Purge because it, though I didn't often see direct acts of violence,
00:02:04.060 it was, there was a certain chaos on the streets.
00:02:09.400 I understand that you had the interactions with the protesters and you confronted them on Kent Street.
00:02:16.040 Is that correct?
00:02:17.760 Correct.
00:02:18.500 Right. 0.99
00:02:18.740 And when you confronted those protesters, do you remember saying to them, which was recorded, go back to where the f**k you were from? 0.99
00:02:25.840 I may have said that. 0.99
00:02:27.280 Okay.
00:02:28.580 And I take it that you never saw any of the, or never said to the commission or saw any protesters or truckers physically harm anyone, is that right?
00:02:37.720 There was only the, I would describe it as intimidation with a truck.
00:02:42.440 Okay.
00:02:42.880 Okay.
00:02:43.480 And you never said to the commission, and nothing in that regard with respect to seeing protesters or truckers threatening to physically harm anyone either, did you?
00:02:53.160 I did not make that statement.
00:02:54.700 All right.
00:02:55.400 And you didn't say to the commission or see anything in your observations that could be classified as espionage or sabotage?
00:03:01.900 I'm sorry?
00:03:03.020 You didn't see anything that could be classified as espionage or sabotage?
00:03:06.800 Uh, no.
00:03:07.760 Thank you.
00:03:08.220 And you didn't say to the commission or, uh, observe any of the protesters or truckers destroy or light a fire any buildings or anything like that?
00:03:16.760 Not inside of any buildings, no, just outside.
00:03:19.520 Outside.
00:03:20.260 So you're saying that they were destroying the outside of buildings?
00:03:22.600 I did not say that.
00:03:23.600 I said they were lighting fires outside of buildings, as in the bonfires that were all over the city.
00:03:28.700 Right.
00:03:29.020 But they weren't trying to knock down any form of buildings or property or anything like that?
00:03:33.260 I can't comment to their intentions.
00:03:34.680 Well, I understand their intentions, but, uh, I submit you didn't see them do anything like that?
00:03:39.540 Nope.
00:03:39.860 I just saw the fires.
00:03:40.900 Open fires.
00:03:41.960 Great.
00:03:42.300 And you didn't see them try to destroy any other trucks or vehicles or light them a fire or anything?
00:03:49.140 I did not.
00:03:50.800 Thank you.
00:03:51.520 In your evidence, uh, you made use of a term you referred to as microaggression.
00:03:57.700 Is that right?
00:03:58.760 I believe so.
00:03:59.760 Multiple times.
00:04:00.380 Okay.
00:04:01.340 Is microaggression, is your understanding of that, that it means verbal and environmental slights?
00:04:08.300 I'm francophone.
00:04:09.040 So if you want to ask me specific things about words, you're going to have to ask me in French.
00:04:14.940 You're asking me a theory about how to define something.
00:04:17.260 Unfortunately, my knowledge of English terminology is perhaps not sufficiently appropriate, Commissioner.
00:04:25.260 Je m'appelle Brendan.
00:04:29.880 My name is Brendan.
00:04:31.000 I, I, I think, you know, it is funny, but it's not.
00:04:37.760 I'm, I am doing my very best to answer clear questions in English.
00:04:41.660 You asked me a very specific question on a definition.
00:04:44.440 I'm saying, ask me, clarify in French.
00:04:47.240 I'm glad to specify if it is yes or no.
00:04:50.260 The specificity of the nuance of a word.
00:04:53.560 I'm, I'm uncomfortable in responding to your question.
00:04:55.720 What of the words of, that I put to you, and there's a few, so means, verbal, and environmental and slights is confusing.
00:05:10.800 Is there, which one are you confused about?
00:05:13.220 J'ai, j'ai expliqué plusieurs fois.
00:05:14.620 I've already explained, tried to express this, and I've explained this to the commissioner, that, to my mind, everything in the periphery of the red zone was what I would describe as being microaggressions.
00:05:33.380 I could describe microaggressions to you.
00:05:35.060 For example, go in front of somebody and pull their mask off.
00:05:37.860 I don't know how we want to describe that as a definition, but that's an example of a microaggression.
00:05:44.120 Walking into a restaurant, being asked to leave, and sitting down without having the right to stay.
00:05:51.140 That's another microaggression.
00:05:53.700 Fighting somebody who's homeless. 0.99
00:05:57.460 Beating somebody who's homeless. 0.62
00:05:58.580 That's another microaggression. 0.94
00:06:00.060 Another type of aggression.
00:06:01.440 Making so much noise at such high volumes that you have to close down in daycare.
00:06:05.960 That's another kind of aggression.
00:06:08.160 That's how I've described aggressions, Commissioner.
00:06:11.420 I'm not a lawyer.
00:06:12.660 I don't have a background in specifics, but I'm trying to use the terminology that I can to be as specific as possible to describe what I received as information and what I was able to see.
00:06:22.880 Can I get him a pair of these so he can understand what I'm saying in English as well, please?
00:06:27.840 Oh, that's mean.
00:06:32.840 Is that possible?
00:06:33.760 Oh, my God.
00:06:35.160 I'm sorry.
00:06:37.860 Do you need this?
00:06:46.980 Would you like one of these for when I question you in English?
00:06:50.120 Because I'm unfortunately incapable of speaking French.
00:06:52.720 And I will do my very best to answer in English, but it was a very, I don't need it.
00:06:57.080 Thank you.
00:06:57.780 Okay.
00:06:58.120 Thank you.
00:07:00.420 So you had said that beating up a homeless person was an aggression, at least the translation.
00:07:08.320 That's what it was.
00:07:11.600 That's more of an assault.
00:07:12.600 So had you witnessed any homeless people get beaten up by protesters?
00:07:16.720 No, if you recall my intervention, the Shepherds of Good Hope is located at the corner of King Edward and Murray.
00:07:25.580 There was an incident with a client.
00:07:28.040 The executive director reached out to me to inform me of the incident.
00:07:32.360 Okay.
00:07:33.320 And were any charges laid?
00:07:35.660 I have no clue.
00:07:36.280 Okay.
00:07:36.980 Who was the individual who was beaten?
00:07:40.020 Do you know?
00:07:40.540 I have no clue.
00:07:41.340 Okay.
00:07:42.100 Thanks.