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- August 26, 2022
Pierre Poilievre exposes Global News
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happy friday canada welcome to fake news friday the only show on the internet keeping canada's
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failing fake and biased legacy media in check and my goodness do they need a checking it's
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it's been a historically bad week i think for canada's legacy media my name is harrison
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falkner filling in for andrew lawton once again who usually fills in for candace malcolm and
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taking the seat that i usually occupy on the show is the very talented rupa subramania the host of
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the rupa subramania podcast now rupa this may be one of the worst weeks i think for canada's legacy
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media i mean i don't know how much worse it can get they they've they've embarrassed themselves
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and frankly exposed themselves i think a little bit yeah no i think so i mean we've we've lots to
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cover and um yeah i don't even know where where where to begin uh just when you think that you
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know it's it's bad it just gets worse and uh so uh yeah uh they've not conducted themselves
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well here uh they once again made themselves the center of the story uh and as we discussed last
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week journalists are not supposed to be the story so um you know it's it's just very unfortunate but
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unfortunately this is this is how it's been uh for a while and that's where that's why we call it as
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as we see it yeah well let's start with this let's start with this whole pierre polyev jeremy mckenzie
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diagonal debacle let's call it the diagonal debacle because global news have have just completely
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embarrassed themselves i think here and i think a good number of canadians who were already quite
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skeptical of what they were getting from the legacy media after seeing what happened now i think are
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just saying to themselves wow i mean we're this is this is these are new lows so let's just summarize
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what happened for those that maybe aren't aware of what's what went on so at an event on sunday
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pierre polyev i might have been sunday might have been monday i'm not sure but pierre polyev was doing
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a meet and greet as he usually does one of his rallies in nova scotia i believe it was and at these
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rallies polyev like any other politician in this country meets and greets the supporters he sets up a
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there's a long line of people who want to shake his hand have a quick word take a picture and keep that
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as a little uh a little political memorabilia of a of a well-known political candidate so sure enough
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this guy jeremy mckenzie who is a an online streamer someone who is i think known for being quite
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controversial quite on the edge um the the legacy media view this guy as some very dangerous extreme
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right boogeyman well he went to the polyev rally took a photo with pierre polyev shaking his hand
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posted it to his telegram page and all of a sudden here comes global news journalist rachel
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gilmore who takes this and says well because this guy jeremy mckenzie who doesn't need doesn't need
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defending uh but but this guy jeremy mckenzie because he took a photo with polyev pierre polyev
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must be some racist far-right boogeyman he he's attracting these these far-right individuals and
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because of that we must we must force pierre polyev to denounce these people and basically validate
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the claims legacy media are making about him that he's what uh you know uh rupa he's he's he's
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attracting these far-right dangerous dangerous figures it's it's completely bizarre and and they
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completely fell for this yeah no but uh harrison we've seen this movie before i mean this is classic
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guilt by association uh which uh is applied to uh politicians on the right uh and never on the left
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uh so you know we know that trudeau has appeared with all kinds of extremists out there um many of
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his mps have appeared uh in community groups associated with um for example the calistan independence
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movement uh or tamil tigers and and none of these people were called extremists i don't ever recall
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anyone uh calling justin trudeau an extremist or um who supports these organizations or these elements
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uh but this is a classic smear tactic that comes from the left uh you attack someone uh not for
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their ideas not for their policies but you want to cast aspersions on their character so it's clearly
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motivated there's an agenda here for sure uh but you know what i would like about pierce uh about
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pierce responses and he's done this before it's very clever and witty you know he could have responded
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to it by uh getting angry and defensive but he responds it responds with wit and humor and thereby
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revealing how ridiculous the whole thing is for example i think he said um he says you know likewise
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i can't be responsible for justin trudeau's many racist outbursts just because i've met him or shaken
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his hands um i think that's that's a great way of dealing with it uh and uh you know mckinsey himself
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i believe uh has said that he was deliberately doing this to provoke the legacy media and of course they
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they fell um for it they responded um just like they uh fell for his diagonal meme which is a fake
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country but they um tried to concoct this conspiracy that it is a far-right movement um uh here to um
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overthrow the canadian government there are a bunch of extremists there are a bunch of terrorists
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i mean it's a joke it's a joke the meme it's a it's a fake it's it's it's a made-up country uh with
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the with with the goat i think as its head i or you know i don't quite know all the specifics but it's
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it's kind of funny but but it just shows you how easy it is to rile up um the legacy media and uh
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essentially get them to reveal where they're coming from their biases and their agenda no exactly and if
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the legacy media didn't have double standards or but we would know that they'd have no standards at
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all because of course if a legitimate journalist who's writing this story well first of all any
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politician who shakes hands with someone at an event designed for a meet and greet that's not a story no
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matter who they are it's not a story but if you're going to go to those those such low depths you might
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as well just provide a little bit of context not once in this global news reporter story did they did
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did she mention the fact that as you mentioned trudeau has met with such you know acclaimed people
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as convicted pedophile ben levin or neo-nazi andre perubi or a pet or pedophile terry lowe so again
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and that's just to name a few there's there's actually four others worth mentioning but again
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it's just ridiculous i did some digging into this and it wasn't just of course global news that fell
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for this trap of course jerry mckenzie as you said may put a video out there detailing how it was all
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just to set up it was just to expose a legacy media for being completely in the tank for trudeau
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but i did some research about this diagonal group as you said it's a meme it's a total joke you're
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trying to form some breakaway state a diagonal country from alaska to florida and from my research
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and and so in between these dangerous reports about how all these these diagonal guys are so dangerous
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they have to put in their actual specifics about what this group is and one of them is the fact that
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their vice president of diagonal is a goat figurine who has who does coke i mean so it's it's a total
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it's a total joke obviously and and it wasn't just global news that fell for this it was jean
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chariot who also in his best what patrick brown impersonation tried to basically say that pauliev
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hasn't announced this jeremy mckenzie figure and if he doesn't denounce this guy he must be what
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supporting the the the views of of of the far right it's it's ridiculous and the whole goal here
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and conservatives should be wise to this and i think the more and more this goes on they'll start
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to see it what these what these legacy media journalists and the left want is for conservatives
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to denounce and distance condemn denounce and distance themselves from people who again aren't
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necessarily the model citizens but when have you seen justin trudeau openly denounce the extreme left
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or antifa he never does it and no one expects him to well you don't even have to go to jeremy
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mckinsey look what they did to the freedom protests and look look what look what they did to uh you
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know those people and james talk yeah james stopped like i've met james stopped to call him a white
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supremacist is so incredibly ridiculous i i don't even know where to begin here i i marched with the man you
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know for for a day to get an interview i was i spent about six hours with him and i did a podcast
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with him and he's a perfectly reasonable person he believes in this you know in his cause and
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there's nothing racist or white supremacist about him i mean unless you know white supremacists are now
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becoming a more inclusive group i mean i'm not aware of this development but uh it's it's it's insane how
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they try to tar everybody um you know with this brush um and we saw that with the freedom protests
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uh just pretty much you know they were just using these talking points from justin trudeau himself
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when he recall when he characterized the unvaccinated as a bunch of racists and
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misogynists and should we tolerate them as he infamously asked and uh that's essentially what
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they're doing they're um you know they're essentially behaving like stenographers for
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the government and it's uh it's unfortunate but yeah but there you have it yeah so you i mean you've
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got you've got the the whole series of photographs that justin trudeau has taken these aren't just with
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any individuals i mean one of them you know is the former speaker i think of the ukrainian parliament who
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is andre peruby i mean these are real legitimate people who are truly uh i i would say in to use the
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less language problematic um but again you don't even have to go that far you can go back earlier
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this week when the canadian heritage department gave money 130 grand to a violent semite where
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obviously we saw we saw ahmed hassan denounce and condemn rightly so but you don't have you don't
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have a whole procession of liberal mps openly coming out and saying we denounce this we denounce
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this man we we distance ourselves because they don't actually have to because the standards aren't
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actually the same and and it's also worth mentioning too the the way that this has all
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been set up they they've created these also they've created these these blanket terms like
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ideologically motivated violent extremism for example imve that's not that's like a new thing
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and if you think about that ideologically motivated that's basically politics and and and and violent
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extremism that can be anything as we've seen from the left so i mean we this was a standard operating
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procedure from the legacy media and there was another article that came up from the same
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journalist at global because global wasn't done there this week of course after embarrassing
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themselves on what the monday they decided the next day to double down and and go even deeper
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they wrote an article the headline is laughable here the headline is how podcasts have become
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misinformation machines and what can be done about it so this article is unbelievable they basically just
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take any conservative uh right wing media operation if it's i mean they they take the biggest names
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we're talking uh jordan peterson ben shapiro alex jones they're saying anyone who is not basically
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in the legacy media anything that's not printed by a legacy media outlet or anything that's not produced
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by uh some sort of uh legacy media outlet rupa is disinformation and right wing and they even they
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even try and lump in shows that aren't even podcasts as podcasts it's ridiculous yeah it's very poor
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research look obviously there's misinformation out there there's disinformation no one denies that
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uh but here's the thing there's a lot of fake information and from the legacy media itself
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the legacy media itself is a big proponent of uh fake news stories and uh uh propagates this right uh not
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proponent but uh propagates these stories uh so it's rather disingenuous to say that it's just
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podcasts spreading misinformation um and keep in mind that legacy media uh still reaches a large number
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of people who are not into uh podcasts and you know and other uh sort of you know how you and i would
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get the news there are a lot of people who still look to the cbc and the c and ctv and legacy media for
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for news so again um the the fact of the matter is that the fake news the legacy media uh maybe that
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was a freudian slip but uh but but the legacy media itself propagates fake news and they've been called
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out plenty of times um and uh and again you know i refer to the freedom convoy protests uh where the
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legacy media was all but parroting the trudeau government's uh own misinformation uh where they tarred
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all the protesters with the with the same brush that they were racist and misogynist and we know
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that's not true um and it and and guess who um uh you know guess who who who who were the people who
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who was pointing this out it was the independent media uh which was there on the ground um uh and uh
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and i think people like uh you and i were were there at the protests and we i think we presented
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a much more accurate picture of what was actually happening there um and you know i think i think
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what's happening here harrison is that podcasts and independent media are increasingly providing a
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much needed corrective to i believe a very hegemonic agenda driven narrative uh by legacy media uh and
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at least here in canada we know it's usually in favor of the liberals well no exactly and and you know
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the thing is is is i think canadians should understand and i think canadians do understand
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that when you read something from the legacy media these legacy media outlets they're obviously going
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to be left-wing that's just sort of the nature of of big media but when you put out an article when
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the global news puts out an article that is so clearly slanted against the against the right i mean
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they're trying to they're trying to basically say that uh jordan peterson and ben shapiro and podcasters
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like that are putting out misinformation they don't once talk about any sort of antifa or far
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left podcast and we know they're out there they should at least make these make these articles
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known that it's it's an opinion or it's or it's some sort of analysis like even the cbc to their
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credit and i can't believe i'm going to say this rupa to the the cbc's credit they will label their
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articles either op-ed or analysis and you know that it's really not news but this apparently is being
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presented as news and you people should go through this article because
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the more you read it the more it obviously becomes a justification to to introduce censorship in the
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media to guarantee that canadians can't access information that is not filtered by legacy media
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sources so there's there's an important there's an important paragraph that i want to that i want to
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read here and it's a quote from somebody in this article i think it's justin ling actually which just
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makes it even worse if anyone knows canadian legacy media but this is what he says in the article
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one of the main draws of podcasting is the low barrier to entry all you need is a microphone and
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some basic editing software the result your message can go right to the listeners ears with
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no gatekeepers i mean what's wrong with that rupa what's wrong with people instead of people just
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putting out news and and letting letting audiences decide how they want to receive it it has to go
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through gatekeepers i mean it's ridiculous and then here's another line too he says it feels like
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somebody leaning over the counter of the bar or coming to your cubicle in the office or sitting
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across your kitchen table and explaining something to you it doesn't feel produced it doesn't feel
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put on it doesn't feel like there are any filters between what the host is saying and what you're
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hearing so again i ask the question what's wrong with someone just telling it to you straight just
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giving you a conversation to inform you they want it to go through their sources only because they
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can feel their their monopoly on information slipping through their hands and there's nothing that
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terrifies them more that's precisely it you've you've uh you know you've identified the problem
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there and that is it uh look it's democratization of discourse which is a great thing that's what
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that's what we want and that's what technology has enabled us to do uh that's what podcasting um
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has enabled us to do uh and you know everybody has a voice what is wrong with that uh and and if you
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you know you're you're free to disagree with those views and opinions but you know to obviously this
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you know they feel that their control over this narrative that they've been pushing for a very
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long time is slowly starting to slip away it's it's already happening i think in in a big way uh
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in certain areas and they're being challenged constantly every day uh by viewers and listeners
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um uh you know saying you know this your your reporting of this is completely biased it's incorrect and
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they're you you no longer have to write a letter to an editor um you know which which used to be the
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case when i was growing up and it would take a week for them to publish it and you you didn't
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even know if the journalist even received that letter so yeah but now it's instantaneous you know
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you can just tweet to this person you can just tell them directly look i think you suck your reporting
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sucks and and that and they they have a hard time dealing with it and uh and and then of course
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they they you know they're they they face fierce competition from independent media um you know and i
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was i was just looking at podcasts um by chartable a ranking of podcasts in canada um and um and and
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and i i noticed that several of our podcasts on true north are actually up there in in the top 50 uh
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ranked in you know in in the top 50 yeah mine happens to be number 21 so um i'm rather pleased with
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that certainly yeah but i noticed that most of those podcasts are actually from the independent media
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space uh i think i saw one cbc podcast up there but most of it are just people like you and i
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yeah podcasting and i think that's that's where you know they feel really threatened and that would
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explain why they come out with these stupid bogus articles um uh you know which are poorly researched
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poorly written and uh and you know and and you know because they they they want to
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keep this monopoly going as much as possible yeah absolutely and i think when journalists
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are on the side of of restricting access to the news and and trying to you know keep canadians from
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being able to access other voices i think that's when they're on the wrong side of this debate and
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i think canadians are going to see that now rupa the the legacy media journalists speaking of these
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great legacy media journalists they they still haven't gotten over your reporting which has exposed the
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trudeau government it's like it's like it almost hurts them more than the trudeau government i don't
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understand why but they can't stop attacking you what's going on here uh well it's uh you know back
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back in the old days harrison and that was not too long ago um i you know when a journalist
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broke a story right other journalists would dive into the story and try to get more stories out of it
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right uh but what's happening here is that they're actually trying to demonize the journalist
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and defending the government it's it's messed up so you know just imagine when bob woodward and
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carl bernstein broke the watergate story uh and legacy media in canada would have attacked them
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and tried to defend nixon um it's it's it's really about that ridiculous and so incredibly shameful
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uh you know there are several things that are shameful here they're attacking me and they're
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also so incredibly stupid and naive that they take everything that government officials are saying
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at face value um they do this kind of thing in north korea and other tin pot dictatorships
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you know to stay alive right because if you speak speak out against um dear leader uh that's it that's
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game over for you uh but it's incredible that uh you know some journalists here are behaving like
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we're in north korea um you know rather than having a healthy skeptic healthy skepticism um you know
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towards uh official narratives uh from the government uh fact-checking they're fact-checking me they should
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really be looking at these court documents and digging deeper there's a lot of stuff in there that
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i couldn't get into there's so many stories here uh but uh no but they're busy fact-checking me and
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uh you know again uh attempting um a character assassination by saying that i'm affiliated with
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far-right outfits what what on earth does it have to do with the story and the story speaks for itself
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um you know but instead you know they're they're you know they should be fact-checking the government
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and they should be looking for evidence to support the government claims and not just take them at face
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value it's a shameful dereliction of duty by some of these individuals in the legacy media no absolutely
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and you know the legacy media are going after journalists and they're going after small
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podcasters like jeremy mckenzie who has 12 000 subscribers instead of going after the government
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instead of actually going after people who are in authority the whole point of journalism is to hold
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power to account but we we is the common thing i say on this show and it's that this is just par for
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the course there's nothing changing in the legacy media i would love it if there was a a carl bernstein
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like type journalist that just emerged through one of these outlets because it would do good for canada
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i want to see these outlets do good for canada but right now all they're doing is just the opposite
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quickly i i want i want to touch on this ridiculous cbc article where they're basically saying that uh the
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dutch protests uh that we see in in the netherlands the farmer protests in the netherlands that really
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took off around the world these were fueled by conspiracy theories in canada so there was a cbc headline
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that came out today uh it came up yesterday excuse me that said canada's convoy movement waved the
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dutch flag then conspiracy theories swirled about fertilizer and bugs very bizarre article they're
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basically trying to say rupa i i think here and correct me if i'm wrong the the statement here is
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the because a lot of people who are involved in the freedom convoy sympathized with what was going
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on in the netherlands which i think a lot of people rightly consider to be a sort of a uh the next
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evolution of of protests that we saw start in ottawa because canadians who are sympathetic to the
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ottawa protest and the dutch protest they're also conspiracy theorists or they're pushing conspiracy
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theorists maybe it's just because they take issue with a real policy and the government is trying to
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back them up i don't know what's going on here yeah this was a really bizarre story it was desperately
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trying to um bring in misinformation and disinformation into this uh into the uh into some canadian support
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for the farmers protest uh in the netherlands um it was a really bizarre story it was long and it was
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just uh you know it made no sense to me uh but you know i was i was intrigued by a tweet that uh that the
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cbc sent out uh to promote the story um and uh you know the language was very problematic uh um i don't
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have the tweet with me but basically i felt this was a case study in propaganda that if you oppose
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government policies they framed an opposition to government policies as uh as as uh as being uh anti-government
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ideology um which is very problematic so just because you criticize the government um essentially
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that means you're a far-right conspiracy theorist and uh you you're anti-government and it's anti-government
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ideology uh it this is incredibly problematic and imagine for example if the legacy media in the u.s
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during the civil rights movement for example and this was the example i sent out on my twitter feed
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uh in my tweet in the 60s the civil rights movement was protesting unjust laws and uh and
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and imagine if they were called anti-government ideology uh in fact there were people saying
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that this was anti-government of ideology but guess who these people were these were southern white
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supremacists right no exactly and that's that's kind of the shift we're seeing right i mean it's when
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it's when this this this movement goes so far they've completely lost lost touch with reality and they
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end up they end up sounding insane i mean the cbc sounds absolutely insane here i have the tweet
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here as the canadian convoy movement embraced farmers protest in the netherlands far-right
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outlets here took advantage to amplify anti-government ideology so excuse me it wasn't even just about
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the protesters it was about the far-right outlets so they're attacking the media which are critical
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of the government and and by proxy basically saying anyone who reads these outlets uh that's you
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watching the show right now audience you the cbc thinks are are some sort of far-right conspiracy
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theorist you pay for the cbc remember that this is what you pay for you pay for you pay for an outlet
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to bash all of us constantly and do the government's bidding it's it's it again like this is the kind
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of stuff we can laugh at the cbc and they always put out stuff to laugh at but then they do stuff
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like this which is extremely dangerous and just absolutely ridiculous well we do we do try and end
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the show on a lighter note and it's tough these days because it's just so ridiculous from the
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legacy media they're always kind of gaslighting canadians trying to convince us all that we're
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we're wild conspiracy theorists but we found something that i thought was was definitely
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worthy of of mockery rupa the kind of thing that i think just shows you really what i don't even know
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what to describe this as but wendy's the fast food chain decided that they really wanted to kind
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of hop on the lisa laflam bandwagon and there's this there's this narrative going around about lisa laflam
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lisa laflam's firing from ctv that actually it was because she was going gray that that's that's
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sort of the narrative we're hearing and wendy's taking this literally without actually perhaps
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thinking about the fact she was making a lot of money for doing a pretty bad job it turns out
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taking this literally they went out and decided of all days yesterday which is a couple weeks past it
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to change the wendy's logo on social media to give the wendy's girl gray hair wow wendy's rupa is
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really standing in solidarity with lisa laflam there i just can't believe this well yeah i mean
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it is it's just virtue signaling right um and um it's tokenism does it actually help lisa laflam at
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the end of the day um you know i i don't know what what what exactly um is the goal behind this sort of
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thing i often see this as uh tokenism but uh you know and i'm just quickly checking to see some of the
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comments um and uh several people pointed out the fact that um you know if if if several people were
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asking wendy's if they've removed their advertising from bell media exactly that's a great point that
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would actually hold more weight uh you know in terms of making a difference but uh um but you know
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i mean anybody can change their display picture and uh and virtue signaling and what's cheap uh talk is
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cheap but um you know are they actually going to do something about this uh and uh and and here the
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you know what people are asking is have you removed your advertising from bell media and that's a i
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think that's a fair question um and uh yeah at the end of the day i you know i i certainly don't you
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know think that this is this kind of thing does nothing at the end of the day it's just it's just it's
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it's just weird cringe sort of classic classic corporate media attempts at trying to ride a
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bandwagon and uh it's just very bizarre and i think i mean they have 13 000 likes so people i guess like
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it but there's some good comments here and there's some good mockery on it too so what a way to wrap
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us up for the show have a great weekend everyone thank you for watching fake news friday my name is
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harrison faulkner that is rupa supermania you can catch rupa's podcast every tuesday you can catch my
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show ray showed every thursday take care everyone thank you for watching have a great weekend
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