Juno News - Pierre Poilievre finally gets tough on deportations

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. I hope everyone is having a

00:00:14.420 wonderful day. Hopefully you're feeling okay. I'm a little under the weather just to warn you. And

00:00:18.740 the thing that happens in my house is that my kids wake up incredibly early, like ungodly,

00:00:24.100 ungodly hour. My husband and I used to sort of take turns getting up with them. Someone's always

00:00:28.380 up at five o'clock. Like we have four kids under the age of six. One of them is always getting us

00:00:33.200 up at five o'clock. And I think basically we've just like resigned to the fact that we will be

00:00:38.520 getting up early. And so it's forced us to go to bed super early. So now sometimes I wake up at

00:00:42.800 five o'clock and I'm the first one awake, but I always wake up at five. And I feel like when you're

00:00:46.640 feeling a little under the weather, you really need a good night's sleep. And when you have four

00:00:50.180 little kids, you just never, ever get a good night's sleep. We've got a lot of news to get to on the show

00:00:55.320 today. I'm really excited by the headlines and what I'm seeing in the news. We talked about it

00:00:59.820 a lot on the show yesterday with Donald Trump laying out his agenda, his incredibly popular

00:01:04.600 agenda, by the way. And just saying enough is enough. If you came to our country illegally,

00:01:09.140 you have to go. If you came to the country illegally and you are a criminal, you are getting

00:01:13.120 deported now. I think that is just so much common sense, something that I personally in my career as a

00:01:18.120 journalist and a pundit have been talking about for years and years and years, like decades at this

00:01:22.760 point. So it's great to see a world leader on the stage actually following through with it.

00:01:27.400 And I think it's having an effect here in Canada because our own conservative leader, Pierre

00:01:31.560 Polyev, made similar comments. We're going to get to all of that in the show. We're going to talk

00:01:34.880 about the latest with Danielle Smith, the trade war. We're going to talk about the liberal leadership

00:01:39.420 race. And for the entire show, I'm very pleased to be joined by journalist Rachel Parker. Rachel is

00:01:45.020 the host of the Rachel Parker Show here at True North. She was formerly our Alberta correspondent.

00:01:50.300 She's covered Alberta politics extensively. Prior to joining True North, she worked for iPolitics.

00:01:56.300 She did a very prestigious internship with the Globe and Mail. She's written for the Toronto Star. So

00:02:01.460 she was mainstream media, now a journalist, and now she's come over to the good side,

00:02:05.360 the independent side. So Rachel, welcome to the program. Thank you for joining us.

00:02:08.720 We matched today.

00:02:11.540 I think we matched last time you were on the show too. I think somehow, you know, we're sending

00:02:17.360 each other signals there. So I want to talk about the news today. I want to talk about Pierre

00:02:21.120 Polyev coming out stronger than I've ever heard him before. So I'm going to play this clip. This

00:02:26.980 is Pierre Polyev. He was speaking at the Holocaust commemoration ceremony yesterday, Monday, January

00:02:31.680 27th in Ottawa. And he made a very clear statement about what's going to happen when he becomes

00:02:37.860 prime ministerial. Let's play that clip. We see on our own streets, antisemitism guided by obscene,

00:02:46.320 woke ideologies that have led to an explosion in hate crimes. Hate crimes were up over 100% in Canada

00:02:54.040 before October 7th. Now they're up 251% with Jews being the principal victims of those crimes.

00:03:04.740 We must not just condemn these things. We must take action against them. We must deport from our

00:03:12.620 country any temporary resident that is here on a permit or a visa that is carrying out violence

00:03:19.500 or hate crimes on our soil. So strong words there from Pierre Polyev. And just so that we're clear

00:03:27.740 about what he's saying, like there's strong sentiment, I think in Canada, and this is what's happening in

00:03:31.720 the United States to deport people who are in the country illegally, and who are also violent

00:03:35.920 criminals. So two different categories, people who are in the country illegal, illegally, it's still

00:03:40.880 split on whether or not, you know, we want them all deported, or whether the ones that are adhering to

00:03:44.980 all other laws should go. But if you're a criminal, you're here illegally, you have to go. That's what

00:03:49.060 Trump is doing. In Canada, what he's saying is even people who are here on legal visas, Rachel,

00:03:54.760 people who came to the country legally as a student or a temporary worker, who are not yet citizens.

00:04:01.000 If you engage in violence or commit a hate crime, I mean, just look at the vitriol that we see from

00:04:08.920 these protests and rallies in support of a terrorist group, Hamas. We've seen it all over the country,

00:04:14.100 particularly bad in Toronto and Montreal. But you know, these images of people coming out basically

00:04:20.160 in support of a ruthless, vicious terrorist group, a death cult, celebrating a massacre against women

00:04:27.460 and children in their homes in Israel. You know, these are the kind of people that Pierre Polyev is

00:04:34.560 talking about. I haven't heard him say anything quite this strong when it comes to his positions

00:04:40.820 on immigration. What do you take away from all of this?

00:04:44.440 My sense of Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives is that they are really watching the moods and

00:04:51.200 the attitudes of Canadians. We've seen this with Pierre Polyev time and time again. He can be slow

00:04:56.340 to speak, which can be a very good thing. And he frequently refers back to saying, I'm not the

00:05:01.760 prime minister. I'm the leader of the official opposition. It's not my responsibility to be responding

00:05:06.940 to these incidents. For example, that was his line when it came to the tariffs. Some of the premiers

00:05:12.380 were pushing retaliatory tariffs. Obviously, we know that Ottawa and Justin Trudeau and Melanie

00:05:16.720 Jolie were pushing that. Melanie Jolie even threatening to turn off the taps here in Alberta.

00:05:21.820 And Pierre Polyev was pretty slow to come out with a response saying, it's not my job to respond to

00:05:26.700 these things. And I think he uses the fact that he is the opposition leader to the absolute best of

00:05:33.580 his ability. And, you know, he's really careful not to make sort of unforced errors. So if he doesn't

00:05:38.740 have to respond to something, he's not going to, unless he's absolutely sure he's captured the mood

00:05:44.440 of the Canadians and knows what to say. Now you can criticize this. You can say that he should be

00:05:49.340 more of a leader, that he should be more forthright with his views on things and coming out with his

00:05:53.660 positions. But it is good politics. That much is obvious. So in this instant, we've seen Pierre

00:06:00.400 Polyev sort of sit on the sidelines with the immigration issue. He hasn't been too vocal.

00:06:05.020 And over the last year, you know, we've seen him sort of ramp up his rhetoric. And that is because

00:06:10.540 Canadians are fed up with the illegal immigration. And we are fed up with the hate crimes. We are

00:06:16.180 consistently seeing scenes out of Toronto and the GTA that look like something out of a third world

00:06:21.820 country. There are neighborhoods in this country that I would not go with my children. That is a

00:06:26.480 crazy thing to say as a Canadian. And I would never say that 10 years ago. But balkanization is

00:06:31.060 happening in certain parts of the GTA. And it's simply not safe for a young mother to be with her

00:06:35.880 children. And Canadians are fed up with that. And Pierre Polyev recognizes that. So we're seeing him

00:06:40.580 ramp up his rhetoric here, because he feels confident that it is the attitude of the nation that he is

00:06:45.920 capturing when he talks about deportations. It's such a good point that he is slow to talk because

00:06:50.800 another example, and we talked about this on the show last week, was him sort of being slow to the

00:06:55.940 take when it came to the issue of trans. And so Danielle Smith came out and announced the policy

00:07:00.240 that youth were not going to be able to have access to sex change operations and cross sex hormones

00:07:05.540 and all this kind of stuff that causes irreparable damage and harm to children. Not going to happen

00:07:11.120 in Alberta. Pierre was quite late to that. It took a couple of days or maybe even a week or two of

00:07:16.760 prodding from the media for him to finally take a position. When he did, he took the right one. So I give

00:07:21.240 him credit for that. You know, a lot of conservative leaders in this country in the past have been

00:07:24.920 accused of just kind of following the polls and looking where the polls are, waiting to draft

00:07:29.220 their message until they see the polls. I don't get that sense from Pierre. I get the sense that

00:07:32.660 he really, you know, you said that he does a good job of capturing the mood of Canadians. I get that

00:07:37.900 sense too, that it's not that he's sitting in the back listening to advisors telling him what to do on

00:07:42.640 each issue, that he's actually listening to people. He's out there hearing things, seeing things.

00:07:47.020 And to your point, when he takes a position, he is going to make sure that it is the right one.

00:07:51.840 What do you think about him talking? Because he wasn't talking about deporting illegals or even

00:07:57.300 people with criminal records per se. He was talking about violent hate, hate filled, hateful

00:08:03.960 offenders, specifically in the context of anti-Semitism and hate crimes. What do you think

00:08:09.100 about that specific point?

00:08:10.980 I think that it's a common sense approach. And he's someone who's consistently touted himself

00:08:15.160 as a common sense principled leader. The people who are in here on permits and visas are

00:08:20.660 in this country on the permission of the Canadian government who receives its power from the Canadian

00:08:25.760 people. If you are not yet a Canadian citizen, you do not have a right to be in this country.

00:08:30.180 And if you are going to be committing crimes, or if you are going to be committing hate crimes,

00:08:34.460 then we have every right to rescind your ability to be in this country. And we absolutely should do

00:08:39.520 so. It's time to put Canadians first again. And the fact that Pierre Polyev has taken this extra step

00:08:45.100 by saying people who are in this country on the permission of the Canadian government, whether

00:08:49.480 that through a visa or a permit, if they are going to be committing illegal acts, then they are going

00:08:53.720 to have to leave. As I said, you know, he's picking up on the mood of the nation and he's even taking it

00:08:58.200 a step further, potentially because, you know, he hasn't been super vocal on this issue. And we've seen

00:09:03.060 the tides turn so much. I think another example of this is the fact that an individual, Ruby Dalla,

00:09:08.020 I'm sure we'll talk more about her later. Yeah, we got that. We got that. We're going to talk

00:09:11.560 about it later in the show. Who's running for the Liberal Party leadership. I mean, she's even

00:09:15.300 coming out and talking about deportations. So this is quickly, quickly becoming a very popular talking

00:09:20.820 point in Canada. I'm very glad to see it. And we're seeing Pierre Polyev take it even a next step

00:09:26.020 further. And to me, it gives me a lot of hope when I see this sort of rhetoric, enter Canadian

00:09:32.500 politics, because it's becoming normalized to talk about deportations in Canada, where

00:09:38.040 it wasn't for so long. And I think that it's a necessary thing for this country as it is

00:09:42.460 a necessary thing for the United States of America. Absolutely. I think it's a step in

00:09:46.320 the right direction, Rachel, but I don't think that Pierre goes nearly far enough. I think

00:09:49.620 that he really needs to up his game. I had Maxime Bernier, the People's Party leader on last

00:09:54.020 week, and he made it very clear that he would deport, deport, deport. I think that one of the

00:09:59.820 issues, you know, you said that Pierre hasn't been very vocal. This issue hit the news last

00:10:03.580 week that the number of gas and refugees, refugees from Gaza that are coming to Canada, we learned

00:10:10.800 from Blacklock's report on January 17th, that the feds approved a $3,000 tax free grant to

00:10:16.380 each individual gas and refugee, plus an additional $1,500 per child, plus free healthcare that is

00:10:23.140 according to our friends over in Blacklock. Mark Miller immigration minister previously announced

00:10:29.080 a five-fold increase in the number of gas and refugees being let into Canada, upping the limit

00:10:35.560 to 5,000. A very good point from Michael Campbell of Money Talks, which is just that Canada has accepted

00:10:44.840 more refugees from Gaza than most Middle East countries combined. So like, why are we taking these

00:10:52.680 people in? Just to provide a bit more context, people in Gaza, the Gaza Strip is an incredibly

00:10:59.160 radical place. Like, the governing party of that area is Hamas, the terrorist group. Hamas receives

00:11:08.280 overwhelming support from the people. Recent polls show that more than half of Gazans support the Hamas

00:11:14.680 party. An overwhelming majority of those people supported the massacre of children and women and

00:11:20.840 families in their homes on October 7th. So these are incredibly radical people that we are literally

00:11:27.560 paying to come to Canada, and we are giving them free welfare when they get here. And like, like the

00:11:32.760 countries around them, like Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, any of those countries don't want them. Saudi

00:11:38.360 Arabia, the Muslim majority countries in the region don't want them because the people are so radical.

00:11:43.080 They have been brainwashed to believe just horrendous things about the West and about Jews. Like,

00:11:48.680 they need serious denazification before they come to Canada. And here we are welcoming these people with

00:11:54.600 open arms. Why wouldn't Pierre stand up against that and say, hey, maybe we shouldn't be letting

00:11:59.400 in people who have incredibly radical views in the midst of a war. This was the topic, Rachel, of my 2016

00:12:06.120 book, Losing True North, Justin Trudeau's assault on Canadian citizenship. Basically, right after Trudeau was

00:12:12.120 elected, I laid out the problems with his ideology with his immigration policy, specifically his policies

00:12:18.040 about letting in 50,000 Syrians on a rush basis without proper national security checks, without

00:12:25.560 ideological screening. And the problem with bringing in people like that at the time, you know, I think

00:12:30.520 it was like one in three Syrians supported ISIS, like, like literally support ISIS. And we're like, hey, come on in,

00:12:36.440 come to Canada. You know, the problem is, is, is deep. And it's been happening for decades now,

00:12:42.520 where you have really, really radical people in Canada. I mean, the number of ISIS fighters who

00:12:47.000 returned to Canada is still quite large number of radicals, we don't even track it. But again, this,

00:12:53.400 this kind of all just goes to show that there's a lot of problems when it comes to our immigration

00:12:58.200 system and the radicalization of the people that we're selecting. And yeah, it's great that Pierre is

00:13:02.600 starting to pay attention to it. But I think that he has to go much, much further. What do you think?

00:13:07.640 To answer your question, you know, why didn't he go further? As I've said before, I think that he is

00:13:11.560 someone who is very calculated and is never going to say more than he has to, to get his point across,

00:13:18.040 I think he's going to be careful not to alienate any potential voters ahead of the upcoming election.

00:13:23.400 And so I think he's going to say just enough that he needs to so that Canadians can feel like he's on

00:13:28.120 our side without maybe making those ideological points about who these people are and where

00:13:32.120 they're coming from, because he wouldn't want to alienate any potential voters. And I think there's

00:13:36.520 a really simple argument to make here. I mean, you've raised your concerns about the people that are

00:13:40.520 coming here and, and what their views might be in those views that they might be bringing to Canada.

00:13:44.840 But there's another really simple argument to make here. That's just simply Canada's full. We don't

00:13:49.560 have room for any more immigrants. We actually physically do not have the housing for them. We do not have the

00:13:54.360 school care for them. We do not have the health care for them. Every Canadian knows that it is an

00:13:58.200 absolute nightmare when you have to go to the hospital right now or visit your family doctor,

00:14:02.360 or God forbid, if you need to see a specialist, you are going to be on that wait list for absolute

00:14:06.760 months. So for Canadians who are suffering under the weight of failed socialism, and they're hearing

00:14:12.600 that their government is going to be importing more people here and offering them welfare that already

00:14:17.560 isn't working for the Canadian people who have paid into it for their entire lives. It's absolutely

00:14:22.040 blood boiling. And I can tell you right now that there isn't a single Canadian family who would

00:14:26.040 turn down the extra help of one time payments to them, especially $1,500 per kid. Most people are

00:14:32.600 really struggling under the inflationary crisis that the liberal government is responsible for.

00:14:37.000 And instead, this government is totally tone deaf on the needs of Canadians and is going to be

00:14:41.320 paying out newcomers that Canadians just don't want right now. That's so true. Well, speaking of healthcare,

00:14:46.680 I talked about healthcare a little bit on the show yesterday, and I made the point my own personal

00:14:49.560 experience being in a hospital in Canada versus being one in the United States. Bar none, the

00:14:55.160 United States one was just so much nicer and better. I take the point that I had good health insurance

00:15:00.040 thanks to my husband's job. And particularly, I just noticed in the comments, some people were

00:15:04.360 taking issue with that and saying, well, if you're not insured or if you are self-employed or a business

00:15:11.480 owner, you don't get the good insurance in the United States. That's a good point. But of course,

00:15:16.200 this is all in the context, Rachel, that Trump said that if Canada were to join America, we would

00:15:21.080 have better health coverage, which is an interesting one. I want to talk about Trump a little bit

00:15:28.440 because his agenda is incredibly popular. According to a recent Ipsos poll, 55% of Americans support

00:15:38.280 deporting all immigrants who are in the US illegally, support rises for deporting immigrants who are in the

00:15:44.680 country illegally, but who arrived during the recent wave, 63% want those ones gone. And then the

00:15:51.800 deporting immigrants who have entered illegally and who have criminal records, 87%, 87% of Americans

00:16:00.440 unite behind Trump and saying, let's get these immigrants who came illegally, you know, criminal

00:16:04.680 records out of the country. That includes 94% of Republicans and 83% of Democrats. Wow. That is a popular

00:16:12.760 issue. Um, apparently, um, actress and singer Selena Gomez though, um, didn't get the message because,

00:16:19.960 um, she, she put out this, uh, video, um, just really misreading the cultural tide. Um, so let's,

00:16:27.240 uh, do we have this clip? Let's play this clip of Selena Gomez crying uncontrollably,

00:16:32.360 um, about the deportation, um, about the deportation of illegal criminals.

00:16:37.800 I just want to say that I'm so sorry.

00:16:43.240 All my people are getting attacked. The children.

00:16:51.720 They don't understand. They're so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do.

00:17:02.360 I'll try everything I promise.

00:17:07.640 So I think she missed the memo here, Rachel. That was like, so 2016 that we cared about what

00:17:13.720 Hollywood actors and singers had to say and that they were allowed to just like,

00:17:17.480 you know, put, put on a performative sob there and get, um, support from people. So, uh, I like,

00:17:23.800 uh, Charlie Kirk's reaction, conservative, uh, American commentator, or she goes, my people,

00:17:28.280 he goes, what my people, aren't you American? Were you sobbing it over at the over a hundred

00:17:32.520 thousand Americans dead from fentanyl poisoning? Uh, were there tears over the 340,000 children

00:17:37.800 who went missing after being trafficked at the border? Um, who, why aren't the Americans your

00:17:42.840 people? Of course, um, Selena Gomez is a widely, it's just a hugely influential person. She has 422

00:17:49.880 million followers on Instagram. She's reportedly a billionaire from her makeup empire, as well as

00:17:55.880 her acting and singing career. I was sure at a young age, she was on Disney. Um, she quickly

00:18:00.600 deleted that video though, Rachel, because of backlash. So the tides have turned. Americans

00:18:05.240 support Trump. They support this agenda. Um, and you know, you don't get to cry and pretend that

00:18:09.720 you're sad over deporting criminal illegals. Uh, what's your take on all this?

00:18:14.920 Just to put this into context, like Selena Gomez was the up and coming when I was really young.

00:18:19.960 Like I watched her first ever music video and was obsessed with it. I was probably like 12 or

00:18:25.240 something at the time. So I was always a really big Selena Gomez fan as I've gotten older and all

00:18:29.640 these Hollywood celebrities have gone woke. It's like, can be a times depending on the celebrity.

00:18:34.120 Sometimes I'm able to sort of like compartmentalize their politics versus liking their stuff. But the

00:18:38.440 truth of the matter is she actually hasn't really put out anything very good. So it's pretty easy just

00:18:41.880 to throw her in the camp of people that I don't take seriously or care for the artwork that she puts

00:18:46.120 out the questions that come to my mind when she put this video is one thing. So she's crying.

00:18:52.600 What about people like Lake and Riley who were raped and murdered by illegal immigrants? Again,

00:18:57.080 you know, to Charlie Kirk's point, she also had no tears for Lake and Riley or for the

00:19:01.400 many other women of America who were raped and killed by illegal immigrants. And the other thing

00:19:05.960 that really caught my attention there when she's going my people, yeah, she's talking about my people.

00:19:11.400 She's referring to illegals. She's not referring to Americans. So, you know, I saw this funny post

00:19:16.600 yesterday. It's like, oh, so she's obviously an illegal. Maybe we should just deport her to be safe.

00:19:21.080 But, you know, the thing that caught my attention was the people who have been deported by,

00:19:26.680 you know, ICE so far, they're not, you know, the young innocent families who are here illegal.

00:19:31.720 It's the hardened criminals. Those are the people that are being prioritized right now.

00:19:35.880 So for any American to have tears for the fact that illegal hardened criminals who have raped

00:19:41.240 Americans who have stolen from Americans and to have tears for that just shows how disingenuous

00:19:47.880 this is. Because as I've said, this isn't the, she's talking about the children. These aren't

00:19:53.480 the people who are being prioritized right now. It's the people who have criminal records that have been

00:19:57.560 on ICE's, you know, ICE has been paying attention to them for a number, for a number of weeks,

00:20:01.880 if not years now, they haven't had the powers to do anything about it. Those are the people that are

00:20:05.480 being deported and everyone in America should be celebrating that.

00:20:08.120 Absolutely, absolutely. And it just shows, like, I kind of wonder, like, where does Selena Gomez

00:20:13.080 get her news from? Like, what, like, is she just so out of touch that she really believes

00:20:17.320 all the sort of hoaxes and memes that, like, ICE is, like, breaking down doors to schools and

00:20:21.880 pulling kids away? Because it's not happening. To your point, it's literally the gang members.

00:20:26.120 It's the ones who have taken over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, or, you know,

00:20:31.320 the people who have been convicted of crimes who are part of these gangs. Like, it just seems to me,

00:20:37.480 like, really, I kind of, like, wonder, like, I'm worried about her. Like, is she okay over there?

00:20:42.840 Like, why is she crying? Why is she breaking down? Who's feeding her the news? She needs to be like,

00:20:47.400 I don't know, it seems like she's been brainwashed or something. And the fact that she quickly deleted

00:20:51.960 that post means that, obviously, she caught on. And maybe someone's actually filling her in now.

00:20:57.560 Maybe she's being fed some solid truth through the independent media. I hope so. But to your point,

00:21:03.560 you mentioned this earlier, Rachel, that even the libs in Canada are coming around to the idea that we

00:21:08.440 need to start deporting people who shouldn't be here. And so we're talking, of course, about Ruby

00:21:14.040 Dalla, who is a former MP from Brampton, which is a very dense immigration population area in the GTA.

00:21:22.840 She's running for leader. We played this on the show yesterday, but we'll play it again.

00:21:27.800 She reiterated her plan that she wants to deport all illegal immigrants living in Canada. Let's play that post.

00:21:35.800 There are over half a million illegal immigrants in Canada. This is unacceptable.

00:21:44.360 As the daughter of immigrant parents, I know firsthand that immigrants have helped build

00:21:51.560 our great country. But we must clamp down on human trafficking and those that are here illegally.

00:22:00.680 As your prime minister, I promise you, I will deport every illegal immigrant in Canada.

00:22:08.520 Wow. So sorry, my mistake. We didn't play that clip yesterday. It's a new clip. She posted this video

00:22:14.760 herself on her X page, but she's using pretty firm language. Again, language that I would like to hear

00:22:20.680 from all parties. I'm happy that the liberals or some liberals are taking this problem seriously.

00:22:25.240 What are your thoughts, Rachel?

00:22:26.200 I sense that the liberal establishment isn't taking Ruby seriously as a contender. And so she's sort of

00:22:35.080 offering these outside views that you wouldn't really hear the party brass repeat. But it is

00:22:40.680 refreshing. And as I've said, I think the important thing here is that we're seeing a big narrative shift

00:22:44.680 in Canada that it is becoming popular and normal to talk about deportations for illegals. And as we

00:22:51.240 said before, with Pierre Polyev even taking that a step further. So I think that this is refreshing

00:22:55.160 to see. I'm also really enjoying watching the sort of disaster that the federal leadership race is

00:23:00.280 unfolding before us, because there's absolutely no way for them to enforce who's registering to be

00:23:05.480 a member of the Liberal Party, which would be one thing if it was just voting for the leader of a new

00:23:10.600 party, but you're also voting for the next Prime Minister of Canada at the same time. So it certainly

00:23:15.640 is adding a lot of ethical questions. But now we're seeing, you know, a lot of organizers across

00:23:19.880 the country essentially attempt to co-opt this leadership race. We saw that, you know, everyone

00:23:24.760 was throwing their support behind Aryan Chandra, who is now removed from the leadership race because

00:23:32.520 he said he didn't speak French and he said he didn't think that. And I sort of saw that coming,

00:23:36.840 I'll be honest. I sort of saw that coming when he said, oh, I don't speak French. And,

00:23:40.120 you know, the Quebecers, they don't care. Like that was obviously not true. And I was like,

00:23:46.120 I suspect that he might be removed from the race because of that. But you have to kind of wonder

00:23:49.960 the timing of it all. I mean, he made those comments quite a while before. And then all of

00:23:54.040 a sudden we see all these people signing up for the Liberal leadership race, attempting to co-opt

00:23:58.040 the movement to vote him in. And then the party comes out and announces that he's actually going to be

00:24:02.120 removed from the race. So I'm kind of sitting back watching this and saying, how many people did sign up

00:24:07.560 for the Liberal leadership race to vote for him? Was it actually making the leadership

00:24:10.920 uncomfortable? And now we're seeing those same people who now saying they're going to vote for

00:24:15.240 Ruby. And, you know, it actually seems like she has some great common sense policy. So I'm curious to

00:24:19.800 see how this all shapes up and to see what kind of support she ends up landing in the Liberal leadership

00:24:24.040 race. Yeah. I mean, certainly she's not part of the establishment. You know, you have Mark Kearney out

00:24:28.440 there pretending that he's not part of the establishment when we all know he's very much an insider.

00:24:32.280 Ruby Dolly kind of disappeared for a while and hasn't been in there. She's probably a lot more

00:24:36.520 in touch with what people think and believe. And the fact that even in her community at Brampton,

00:24:41.080 she's hearing and she's supporting this idea that you got to deport people. And she says half a million

00:24:45.000 in that video. The number is so much larger of people who have come to this country, made asylum

00:24:49.560 claims, most of them very bogus. They don't show up for the court hearings or their case gets rejected

00:24:54.280 and they don't show up for their deportation order. Trudeau also said that he was going to

00:24:59.480 cancel the visas and presumably deport or he asked them to leave all of the student visas and all of

00:25:05.560 those students that they brought in that have just created an unbelievable cost of living crisis. So,

00:25:10.760 look, I agree that it's amusing to watch the Liberal Party implode and watch a total disaster show that

00:25:17.560 Justin Trudeau has left in the wake. I have a hard time finding it amusing in the context of the fact

00:25:22.760 that Canada doesn't have any leadership. We're facing a looming trade war. We have a President

00:25:27.320 of the United States who's incredibly strong making threats at Canada. We need a leader. We need an

00:25:31.400 election. And it would be fun to watch the party implode and the leadership race happen in this way

00:25:38.200 if it weren't so dire for the country. I want to show you this. This is just kind of funny.

00:25:43.880 Ruby Dalla put up a graphic on her X page saying this is what real change looks like. The graphic,

00:25:49.240 I'll read it for the listening audience. It says, Ruby Dalla will deport every illegal immigrant living

00:25:58.440 in Canada as Prime Minister. Now, if you just read that and didn't quite understand that she's running

00:26:04.040 for Prime Minister, it kind of sounds like she's saying that she would deport every illegal immigrant

00:26:08.840 living in Canada who is also Prime Minister. You had Tristan Hopper over at the National Post

00:26:14.280 pointing this out not to be pedantic. This is technically saying everyone who is in the country

00:26:18.280 illegally and also Prime Minister would be deported. A couple of other people making this joke.

00:26:23.800 Ah, it's pretty funny. I don't know. It's such a journalist thing to make that type of joke.

00:26:30.440 Like they just can't help themselves. You're right. Because I was like,

00:26:33.800 yeah, I don't think that's very funny. I'm not going to include in the show. And then my producers

00:26:36.840 were like, no, it's funny. Sorry, not to throw you guys under the bus there. But my husband also

00:26:42.760 thought it was really funny. He tweeted about it. So, but yeah, I think a bit of inside baseball

00:26:48.120 there. You know, actually speaking foreigners, because you're talking about that, the foreign

00:26:53.560 interference inquiry is set to release its report, its final report today. So a lot of us are very

00:26:59.320 interested in this, the final report from the public inquiry into foreign interference in Canadian

00:27:05.320 elections led by Commissioner Hogue. It's set to be released today. So it's coming out. It's probably out

00:27:11.080 now. I haven't had a chance to look into it and dissect it. But we will for sure on tomorrow's

00:27:15.960 show. The inquiry conducted in two phases examined the foreign interference in the 2019 and 2021

00:27:23.240 elections. The initial reports found no significant outcome. But this report coming out today or that's

00:27:30.600 out today is expected to provide recommendations to improve protection from foreign meddling. We know

00:27:37.640 what's happening. I don't think they're going to name names. We know that there's 11 MPs.

00:27:40.920 who are supposedly the beneficiary of foreign funding. Like we're talking about adversarial

00:27:45.640 states like China funding MPs, individual MPs in our country. They won't tell us who. I hope this is

00:27:51.960 one of those issues that if Pierre gets elected, he will expose who those 11 MPs are because Canadians

00:27:58.120 deserve to know which of our representatives are actually representing a foreign adversarial state.

00:28:03.960 You know, the liberal leadership race is just absolutely ripe for abuse because of those

00:28:10.200 ridiculous rules. You don't have to pay anything. You don't even have to be a citizen. I don't even

00:28:14.200 think you have to live in Canada. It's just completely ridiculous. It doesn't seem like our country,

00:28:20.440 it doesn't seem like a country that takes itself very seriously. You know, you hear a lot of Canadians on

00:28:24.600 the left, Rachel, really taking offense to Trump saying Canada is not for sale. You know, how dare

00:28:30.360 you try to undermine our sovereignty and integrity. It's like, that's really happening, guys. The

00:28:34.360 country's already, you know, really fallen apart over here. I don't know if you're noticing, but you

00:28:39.400 literally have foreign adversaries funding MPs in this country. You know, so what's your take on this

00:28:45.480 whole report? Well, I think the question is whether the Liberal Party will take it seriously and if

00:28:52.440 they will implement some of the recommendations in their ongoing leadership race. It's not too late

00:28:57.000 for them to do so. And that could show, you know, a real effort that they care about Canada's national

00:29:02.840 sovereignty and they're taking these claims seriously. But we haven't seen that from them up

00:29:06.120 to par. And you're certainly correct that the Liberal leadership race is just ripe for foreign

00:29:10.760 interference because there's absolutely no safeguards surrounding it. I had Brian Lilly on my show

00:29:15.400 a couple of weeks ago, and he was warning about the same thing as soon as the leadership race was

00:29:19.080 announced. It was evident to a lot of people that there was no safeguards around the election

00:29:23.560 and that China wanted to get involved in it. There's not really going to be anything stopping them.

00:29:27.560 So the Liberal Party has an opportunity here to do the right thing and to implement some of these

00:29:33.080 recommendations in their leadership race to ensure that it's actually Canadians who are voting for

00:29:36.920 their next prime minister. I mean, even a simple rule change would probably help in that regard.

00:29:41.480 And, you know, there should be some credentials that you might have to show, although I know the

00:29:45.000 Liberal Party doesn't really like the idea of ensuring that Canadian citizens are the ones

00:29:49.640 voting in their elections or certainly in their leadership races. But they have an opportunity

00:29:54.360 to prove that this is an issue they care about. We know that Justin Trudeau has been hammering

00:29:57.800 Pierre Polyev for not obtaining the security clearance that he would need to, you know,

00:30:02.840 receive that report on who those 11 MPs were. And, you know, he's been trying to say that

00:30:07.400 Pierre Polyev simply couldn't obtain that security clearance. That's seen sort of the rumors we've been

00:30:12.280 seeing spreaded by True Renaud. And, you know, hopefully we will see a Pierre Polyev government.

00:30:16.520 Hopefully we will see those MPs names come forward. I think it's a disservice to Canadians

00:30:21.000 that information of such national security and importance to Canadians is being withheld from us.

00:30:25.480 But it's it's seeming like time and time again, we really have more of a ruling class in Canada.

00:30:29.720 It doesn't seem like our politicians exist to serve us, but it's seeming more and more like Canadians

00:30:34.760 exist to serve their ruling class.

00:30:36.600 I mean, I just don't understand how you can continue to be a member of parliament

00:30:41.160 if we found that you take money from foreign adversarial state, like it just doesn't even

00:30:46.120 compute. Like why, why are they still here? Why are they still getting money? Why are they still

00:30:49.560 representing us? Like name them and fire them. And I don't even care what political party they're

00:30:54.360 affiliated with. Like those people should not get to serve in public office in Canada. I really,

00:31:00.120 really hope that this report, you know, allows Canada to make some progress here because right now

00:31:05.800 it is a bit of a joke how weak and insecure our system is. Okay, Rachel, let's talk about the

00:31:11.640 latest when it comes to the libs and Trump's tariffs. So I want to talk about this report

00:31:16.920 was in the global mail this morning. This is just so typical Ottawa, so typical, like the way that

00:31:22.040 liberals react to threats. Anytime there's an issue, it has to be a national strategy. So the global mail

00:31:30.040 basically just reporting that Ottawa is planning pandemic level relief for workers and businesses

00:31:36.920 if Trump imposes tariffs. So anytime there's a problem, the federal government will sweep in

00:31:42.040 with a national plan, a national plan, pandemic level relief. Let's just like pause for a second

00:31:47.960 here. Canada's broke. Canada's bankrupt. Canada spent way too much money because Justin Trudeau shut down

00:31:53.480 the economy during the pandemic. And then he paid everybody to not work for a couple of years. And because of

00:31:58.360 that our country is bankrupt, basically. And now he's saying, hey, we can just do it all again.

00:32:02.840 We'll just tap that magic money tree, borrow more money, leverage the future for future Canadians,

00:32:09.320 young Canadians, borrow more, and we will pay everybody again if Trump imposes these tariffs.

00:32:14.520 So according to the global mail's report here, it says that the federal government is planning a

00:32:18.600 multi-billion dollar pandemic style bailout for workers and businesses. If U.S. President Donald Trump

00:32:23.720 follows through on his threat to impose a 25% tariff on Canadian goods as early as Feb 1,

00:32:28.360 two sources say. The sources said that some of the measures such as waiving a one-week waiting

00:32:33.000 period for employment insurance benefits do not require parliamentary approval. Of course,

00:32:37.080 an author always going to find ways, Rachel, to do things without actually getting the consent of

00:32:41.560 the governed here. It says the bulk of potential spending on new programs to help laid off workers and

00:32:46.600 businesses affected by tariffs will require legislative approval, which will not take place until

00:32:51.240 employment resumes all the way into March. This just drives me absolutely crazy. The liberals will

00:32:57.080 always take the wrong approach, right? Like Trump makes it pretty simple. He says, hey guys, your border

00:33:01.480 is broken. Hey guys, you're sending all these horrible drugs into our country. Fix those problems. And what

00:33:06.360 does Trudeau say? Hey, I've got a better solution. Why don't we just print all the money in the world and

00:33:10.920 pay everybody instead? What are your thoughts on this? Well, to your point, we can't afford this. We're still

00:33:18.120 paying for the pandemic relief that was offered a few years ago. I mean, our children's children's

00:33:23.320 children is going to be paying for it. Canadians have never felt their dollar being worth less. Now

00:33:28.040 the government wants to print even more money. It's like Canadians are going to be paying for

00:33:32.120 these tariffs over and over again, because it's like, we're going to be paying for the retaliatory

00:33:35.320 tariffs. We're going to be paying for the higher cost of goods. We're going to be paying for it and

00:33:38.120 that our money is going to be costing even less. So there just really seems to be no end for the suffering

00:33:42.520 of the Canadian people and our absolutely valueless dollar right now. But the thing that probably irks

00:33:47.480 me even more than this is parliament is prorogued. So how is the government getting permission to print

00:33:52.440 this money and to spend this money? It's the same thing that we're seeing right now with the capital

00:33:56.680 gains tax increase. It's that that was never debated or passed by parliament. And yet the CRA just said,

00:34:04.600 well, you know, it was introduced. So we're going to go ahead and enforce it. Anyways,

00:34:08.200 we've done some similar things in the past. Now, the Canadian taxpayers taxpayers federation is

00:34:13.320 actually taking the CRA to court over this saying you have no right to implement this tax hike that

00:34:19.880 the the MPs have not passed or as I said, even debated. And I certainly hope they will be fruitful

00:34:26.280 in their efforts. But it's again, time and time again, as I just said, the Canadian people, we elect

00:34:31.560 officials, they are supposed to rule for us. But that is not how our system works because it is so

00:34:35.800 broken and it is not working anymore. Absolutely. And I think I think just the idea that we can

00:34:41.160 like, okay, we can withstand this, we'll just start printing more money. That's that's the kind of

00:34:45.320 thinking that got us into this problem. Okay, so Chrystia Freeland, who's running for a Liberal

00:34:49.720 Leader on Monday, she outlined her plan to protect the economy against Trump, which includes dollar for

00:34:55.640 dollar retaliatory goods. So she put out this post here, just basically saying what what she would do

00:35:04.600 in terms of to your point, you know, taxing Canadians on the money that we send out and taxing

00:35:09.720 it through the money that we get in. I don't think a trade war is a solution. But it seems to be the way

00:35:14.040 that these Liberals are going. Likewise, you had Foreign Minister Melanie Jolie talking about how

00:35:20.360 diplomacy can work. So this is a clip from her on Monday, telling reporters how she thinks that we

00:35:26.840 should negotiate with the Americans. When it comes to preventing tariffs,

00:35:32.680 this is our number one priority. And we're working at it every day. Now, we believe that diplomacy can

00:35:39.000 work. And that's why we're having private conversations. And we won't negotiate on, you know,

00:35:46.440 in front of the public, we believe that our arguments are strong. I think that I've had numerous

00:35:54.040 conversations where the reaction was actually very positive. But meanwhile, there's still a lot of

00:36:00.280 work. This administration in the US is very unpredictable. So we have to be ready and working

00:36:06.520 on both fronts, like I was saying, preventing tariffs and at the same time working on our results.

00:36:12.680 Rachel, do you have faith in these people? Do you have faith that they are going to be able to

00:36:15.960 negotiate and stop Trump? Well, absolutely not. But I just want to point out a couple things.

00:36:21.640 First and foremost, if you listen to Melanie Jolie frequently, she basically always has the same

00:36:27.000 talking point when she's being interviewed, which is I'm not going to tell you the plan right now.

00:36:31.720 I'm not going to negotiate in front of the public because they don't have a plan. She's got no ideas.

00:36:36.280 You can hear it in her delivery that she's not confident in what she's saying. She doesn't even

00:36:40.920 believe herself. So I don't know why she expects you or I are going to believe her. We can see that

00:36:45.320 she's feeling unsure and insecure in her ability to perform this job. She's certainly not adept

00:36:51.000 at it. And the other thing that I would say is when she talks about diplomacy, you guys are not

00:36:56.280 being diplomats in the way that you should be. You're talking about the need for diplomacy. Then

00:36:59.880 why aren't you doing that? Why did you choose to hold a caucus retreat to the expense of Canadian

00:37:06.280 taxpayers rather than going down to DC during the inauguration and doing everything you can to get

00:37:12.840 meetings with the top officials and make the case for Canada? They have done nothing. I recently had

00:37:18.920 a former special advisor to Jason Kenney on the Rachel Parker show, David Knightlag, and he said,

00:37:24.360 you know, I'm in DC. He was in DC for the inauguration. He was talking to a number of people

00:37:29.080 that he knows that are in the Trump administration. And they noticed that no one from the reigning

00:37:36.200 liberal party was in DC trying to get meetings. And they also noticed that Danielle Smith from Alberta was

00:37:42.360 there doing everything she could to make the case for Alberta. And in some sense, you know,

00:37:45.720 she did even receive some from grace from, from Donald Trump from that. They noticed that Daniel

00:37:49.960 Smith was there, but Ottawa's absence was never more clear and they are not delivering for Canadians

00:37:56.440 because they simply get, cannot get past their dislike of Trump. And, and to the point that they've

00:38:01.320 even conceded at doing their jobs at this point, they're not willing to go and meet with him.

00:38:05.560 They're not willing to make the case for Canada. They are simply standing back and saying,

00:38:09.720 we've tried everything when in reality, they've tried nothing.

00:38:12.760 It was such a great interview that you did there with David and he made so many good points. I think

00:38:17.320 this is, there's no doubt why 77% of Canadians want an election. If you want an election,

00:38:22.520 if you're watching this right now or listening to this right now, head on over to my website,

00:38:25.480 candicemalcolm.com, sign my petition. I'm trying to get as many signatures as possible so that I can

00:38:31.400 personally deliver this petition to the governor general to demand an election. Canadians deserve an election.

00:38:36.840 We deserve a government that has a mandate to be down there negotiating with Trump on our behalf,

00:38:42.680 not this ragtag group, especially not Justin Trudeau. You know, it's, I think that the point that

00:38:50.920 they weren't down there, they weren't working the room, you know, Danielle went to Mar-a-Lago.

00:38:54.520 Danielle Smith went to the inauguration and it's not just about glad handing with Trump. I know like so

00:39:01.400 many liberals and people on the left, you know, were accusing Danielle Smith of being an appeaser,

00:39:06.840 you know, of appeasement to Trump or being a traitor or undermining the attempts. It's like,

00:39:12.040 well, at least she was there. She was making an attempt to befriend these people. And that is what

00:39:16.920 diplomacy is all about. I think Danielle took a, you know, she, she was the one that took the risk

00:39:22.200 and took a step out there and people are coming around. You know, at first, I think a lot of Canadians

00:39:26.440 were surprised to see that. And now more and more, um, she's not a lone wolf on the provincial

00:39:31.320 response. So True North is reporting that, um, we've seen provincial shifts when it comes to

00:39:37.160 tariffs. Smith no longer no lone wolf on provincial response to tariffs as Quebec and Saskatchewan

00:39:44.280 shift. So, um, Smith's sentiment was recently echoed by Quebec Premier Francois Legault,

00:39:49.880 who said any retaliatory action involving energy exports south of the border should first require

00:39:55.320 the approval of provinces and those affected regarding energy. I think it's important

00:40:00.040 that it affects a province that this province has to give its consent. Uh, first, likewise,

00:40:05.880 the leader of the bloc Quebecois said, uh, absolutely no to a embargo on Canadian oil,

00:40:11.720 of course, because the oil that Quebec gets from Alberta actually goes through the United States. So

00:40:17.480 any embargo would just shut off all of central Canada from Sarnia, all the way up to Montreal.

00:40:22.040 So any, anyone suggesting that I'm sorry, but they're an idiot and you shouldn't listen to them.

00:40:26.520 Uh, likewise, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has come out, um, supporting something more similar to

00:40:33.000 Danielle Smith. He's expressed his desire for a similar approach on the issue. He said,

00:40:37.000 Saskatchewan is most certainly not supportive of export tariffs and will be working actively to

00:40:42.040 ensure an export tariff couldn't be applied on Saskatchewan products. Um, so Danielle Smith,

00:40:48.520 um, taking the lead and others are following. What's your make of this Rachel?

00:40:53.400 I think that Danielle really went out on a limb with her approach to the trade war, um, and Donald

00:41:00.040 Trump's threat of tariffs. And she was pretty roundly criticized for that. We saw the establishment

00:41:05.080 media really going after her. She was accused of being a traitor, really horrible things.

00:41:09.640 And I think that it's paying off for her, not only on the home front, but also nationally. So let's

00:41:15.480 start by talking about Alberta first, certainly her approach to advocate for Alberta and for

00:41:20.520 Alberta's interests first is what the Albertan people want. We elected a premier to stand up for

00:41:26.600 our interests, not to stand up for Ottawa, especially at a time when there was so much friction between the

00:41:31.480 province of Alberta and the federal government who has seemed really not to be vested in or care about

00:41:37.560 our economy, um, and to continuously attack Alberta's energy. And the point that, that Danielle Smith

00:41:43.000 made was we tried to expand our exports to go west or to go east. And the rest of Canada said no. And so

00:41:50.360 we are entirely reliant on our exports to the United States for our economy and for the Alberta

00:41:55.960 government to generate revenue. And if you shut that off, it will devastate, it will devastate the

00:42:01.640 Alberta economy. And so we have no choice but to continue having a positive trade relationship with

00:42:07.000 the United States. And I think she recognized that the relationship between Justin Trudeau and between

00:42:11.800 Donald Trump had completely broken down. And so she took matters into her own hands and she went over to

00:42:16.280 the stage and she began advocating for Alberta. And initially we saw that the rest of Canada was attacking

00:42:21.080 her for this. And now we've seen sentiment shift, not only in public opinion, but also in the fact that

00:42:26.280 other premiers are also following suit because I think they're recognizing that not only would a ban or

00:42:33.560 retaliatory tariffs impact them, as you said, Alberta's energy also lights up Ontario and Quebec. So it's not simply a

00:42:39.800 matter of just turning off the pipes because it will impact the rest of Canada, but also that her

00:42:45.480 approach with Donald Trump is working and that the Americans do want collaboration with Canada,

00:42:50.600 but they're also tired of a Canadian government that really hasn't done its part, for example,

00:42:55.320 with meeting its NATO commitments with protecting its border. And yeah, I know people always say, well,

00:43:00.200 there's the immigration crisis is way worse at the Mexican US border than the Canada US border.

00:43:05.240 Okay. But we also have like really serious terrorists here. We had one of India's most

00:43:10.760 wanted terrorists in Canada. The United States is paying attention to this. They recognize that

00:43:15.000 our security is abysmal and they realize how easy it is for these people to cross from Canada into the

00:43:20.120 United States. And so what America is really asking is they're saying, Canada, you haven't done

00:43:24.920 your part for nine years. It's time to do your part again. And then we can maybe look at, you know,

00:43:29.960 not implementing these tariffs. But right now, Canada is in a very, very weak position. And I

00:43:34.840 think for the people who are criticizing Donald Trump for the economic impact that we're about to

00:43:39.960 feel from the tariffs are severely misguided. It is right that he would do the best by his country

00:43:45.560 and that he would protect our national, his national interests. I just wish that we had a

00:43:49.560 prime minister who also cared about protecting our national interests.

00:43:52.920 And there's no way that Canada's vetting when it comes to national security. We just don't

00:43:56.520 vet the way that the Americans do. We used to, and we should, but we certainly do,

00:44:00.440 which is why we end up with terrorists. And to your point, I mean, we reported this in True North,

00:44:04.600 that the number of people on terror watch lists sneaking into the United States from Canada is

00:44:11.560 five times more than Mexico. So yes, Mexico has far more people coming through the border. But when it

00:44:18.040 comes to the actual terrorists, there's actually significantly more from Canada. Let's go back

00:44:22.760 to Danielle Smith, though. She was on with Vassie Capellos on Sunday evening, talking about how she

00:44:29.240 wants to avoid a trade war. So, you know, this is her kind of marquee position that we don't want to do

00:44:34.520 a tit for tat. It's not a good idea to have a trade war with a trading partner who's so much bigger

00:44:40.440 than you, so much more powerful than you and can more easily, you know, have tariffs without such a big

00:44:49.640 notice. So let's play this clip of Danielle on CTV question period.

00:44:55.080 I always think that you should try to avoid a fight, especially when you've got, you know,

00:44:59.080 a bigger, a bigger adversary that you're fighting against. The American economy is 10 times the size

00:45:03.880 of Canada. And if we get into some kind of tit for tat retaliatory tariffs, neither country is going to

00:45:10.680 benefit from that. And Canadian consumers are going to be harmed. That's why my approach has been,

00:45:15.080 what can we do to avoid the fight? That being said, I think we all know, based on previous experience,

00:45:20.360 that having a proportionate responses is what is normally expected when these kinds of things

00:45:25.800 occur. And so I know that the federal government is working on what that proportionate response

00:45:30.520 would look like. I hope we don't have to roll it out at all. I hope we can avoid tariffs altogether.

00:45:36.360 And I'll just play one more clip. This is the same interview a little later on. She talks about

00:45:40.360 how Albertans are just not going to accept an export tax on their products.

00:45:45.960 I've asked the federal government on I don't even know how many occasions over the last number of

00:45:49.080 years about those extra markets and building capacity to them. But even putting that aside

00:45:54.360 for a moment, we're in the moment we're in. I've also asked ministers in the past week if they would

00:45:58.760 do the same thing that that people are threatening over oil with auto exports, which would have a

00:46:03.000 equally proportionate impact on Ontario. And they said yes, like they're not,

00:46:06.440 they're not making it a national unity crisis, aren't you? I don't think that will happen,

00:46:12.600 first of all. But they're not taking it off the table. That's the point, right? Maybe logistically,

00:46:17.080 like you say, both are not really great options, but they're not saying, no, I would never do that.

00:46:22.280 Well, I think the problem that we saw is that we were getting together as a group of premiers and

00:46:26.920 the prime minister saying, let's not negotiate this in public. And I did my part saying, let's focus on

00:46:33.240 the things that we know the Americans care about, national security and border security.

00:46:36.920 And everybody else went off freelancing. And the thing they kept returning to

00:46:40.120 was punishing Alberta and punishing energy. So I just wanted to make sure

00:46:44.200 that we get back to talking about the things that unite us rather than divide us. And so

00:46:49.320 Albertans are just simply not going to accept an export tax on this product. They're not going

00:46:54.840 to accept the federal government blocking the export of this vital product. And I don't think

00:46:59.320 that that demonstrates to the Americans that we are a reliable trading partner, which is what we

00:47:03.960 are trying to do. Danielle Smith is just 100% right there. She is making the points and she's the one

00:47:10.040 that's standing up, not just for Albertans. Yes, she is standing up for Albertans. And I think they

00:47:13.240 appreciate that. You can let me know what you think. But she's standing up for, I think, what's in the

00:47:16.440 best interest of all Canadians by avoiding a trade war. What do you think? That's exactly what I've been

00:47:21.880 hearing from people who are on the ground. They're saying that Danielle Smith has been accused of being a

00:47:27.560 Canadian trader. But when she's in Washington, DC, and when she's at Mar-a-Lago, she is playing for

00:47:32.920 Team Canada. She is fighting for all of Canada when she's trying to secure a deal. And as she has said

00:47:37.560 repeatedly, and she's been the one saying this the loudest from the beginning, let's do our best to

00:47:42.440 avoid these tariffs. And I just can't help but wonder why we haven't heard that same line from

00:47:46.520 other premiers. It's immediately been, okay, well, if you if you do this to us, and we're going to do that

00:47:51.400 to you. Exactly as she said, it's been a tit for tat, instead of understanding the Americans concerns

00:47:57.320 and saying we do not want these tariffs, tell us exactly what we need to do to avoid them, we will

00:48:01.000 get serious about security at the border, we will get serious about vetting newcomers to Canada. And

00:48:06.040 we are willing to meet you where you're at to avoid these tariffs. That has never really been the

00:48:10.120 federal government's approach. They're really just too pigheaded to look at their own mistakes,

00:48:15.240 realize where they went wrong. And certainly to make some of the changes that Donald Trump has

00:48:19.320 requested, they would be acknowledging error in their immigration policy and in their vetting policy.

00:48:24.760 And we know that Justin Trudeau and his Liberal Party, they are not willing to even own an ounce of

00:48:30.280 their mistakes. They are so pigheaded when it comes to making changes that would benefit Canadians,

00:48:36.280 because it might mean an acknowledgement of wrongdoing on their part. And I believe that

00:48:40.120 is a big part of the reason why we're seeing them proceed in the manner that they have because

00:48:43.640 they are not willing to change their policy, because it would be acknowledging wrongdoing.

00:48:48.040 That's so true. And you know, at this point, if they were to do an about face on the major issues

00:48:52.760 that Trump cares about, like immigration, national security, and drugs, I mean, those are like

00:48:56.600 Justin Trudeau's legacy there, right? So it would be basically be an admission that his entire time

00:49:01.880 as Prime Minister has been an absolute disaster, which of course it has. I want to show you one more

00:49:05.720 clip of our friend Danielle Smith there, who is down on American television talking to News Nation's

00:49:10.680 Laura Ingalls. So this accusation that somehow Smith is selling out Canada, she puts that to rest,

00:49:15.800 saying that best friends should never move in together. So really just taking the idea of a

00:49:20.440 merger right off the table. Let's play that clip. Do you think that Trump should acquire Greenland and

00:49:26.280 Canada? I think we want to continue to be best friends with the United States. There's a phrase

00:49:32.200 that best friends shouldn't move in together. We have a very strong long term relationship with

00:49:36.440 the United States. It's been terror free for much of it in the last number of decades. We know that we

00:49:42.120 support the Americans and their aspiration for energy dominance, which is connected to national

00:49:47.080 security. Part of the reason why the Americans have been able to export so much oil internationally

00:49:53.720 to achieve their targets and achieve the support of their allies is because Canada backfills. We have

00:50:00.040 a heavy oil that goes into U.S. refineries to keep prices low for American consumers, and then that

00:50:05.880 allows the Americans to export their product around the world. You make the same case on all the critical

00:50:11.080 minerals. I mean, we're watching as China is trying to cut off the critical mineral supply chain to the

00:50:17.000 United States for germanium and gallium and antimony. We've got all of that in Canada. We've got uranium,

00:50:22.120 which we think would be a great partner for the United States in providing that security. So I think

00:50:25.880 we've got a partnership that works and we want to maintain that. Great response there. But I want to

00:50:31.880 ask you, Rachel, I've been talking about this quite a bit on my podcast. What is the response that you're

00:50:36.280 hearing from folks in Alberta when it comes to this idea of a merger? Because I remember we did an

00:50:40.040 event at True North Nation. Well, we do it every year, but I was there two years ago. And there

00:50:44.760 was a group of kind of noisy fellows with these hats on that said Alberta, USA, and they were really

00:50:50.520 big on Alberta becoming the 51st state. I think most people in the room didn't agree with them,

00:50:54.440 but they certainly wanted to talk about their ideas to everyone. I think that there's, especially among

00:51:00.440 young Canadians, so your generation, I think like 18 to 30 year olds had the highest number, like 40%

00:51:05.880 saying that they would potentially move to the United States if they were offered citizenship.

00:51:10.600 What, what's your take on the seriousness of that? Whether you think that it's an offer that

00:51:16.040 it would pique the interest of Albertans? And then you can respond to what Danielle just said in that

00:51:20.680 clip. There's definitely a small but vocal minority of people here in Alberta who like the idea of

00:51:28.520 Canada joining the United States, or at least even Alberta joining the United States. I did a show on

00:51:34.040 this. I sort of said, I don't think that this is a good idea. And what I always go back to is,

00:51:38.120 I just don't really want to be under an even bigger federal government. I think that the fact

00:51:42.280 that our countries are so big and we have a federal government who has so much power over what's

00:51:46.440 happening in a place so far away is one of the big problems that we see in Canada. And I don't think

00:51:51.240 that joining the United States would solve that. And even while you might like their very effective

00:51:55.720 Republican president now, there's not always going to be a Republican president in the White House.

00:52:01.320 Imagine being led by Joe Biden. I mean, it's not always going to look as good as it is until you

00:52:06.840 need to think about these things in a broader context than in just a moment and a place in time.

00:52:11.720 And so while I would say that there is a small minority of people who support that idea, what I'm

00:52:16.360 actually hearing even more of is the feelings of Western alienation that are growing. There is,

00:52:21.960 and there will always be, a separatist movement in Alberta. And I can feel and hear that separatist

00:52:27.880 movement is really growing traction right now, especially when you hear things like Ottawa saying

00:52:32.360 they're going to shut off the taps or they're going to impose a export levy. Separated separatism

00:52:38.360 in Alberta has always been around. I remember growing up and learning about, you know, the West

00:52:43.240 wants in led by Preston Manning. And what I'm hearing right now is the West wants out. And I know that

00:52:48.280 there are separatists who were organizing. And I think that if we continue to see this trend from a

00:52:52.360 federal government, that movement will only pick up steam. Now, if we see a conservative

00:52:56.680 government be elected, the separatist movement will certainly wane, but it will never go away.

00:53:01.400 And so I would say that that's the broader trend of what I'm seeing with these negotiations with

00:53:05.800 America and the trade where that we're seeing is that Alberta, a lot of Albertans are just tired

00:53:09.960 of federalism and they don't trust the federal government to get the job done anymore. I think

00:53:14.200 that Danielle Smith had, you know, a pretty effective way of responding to that question with,

00:53:18.520 you know, her little analogy about not moving in with a best friend.

00:53:21.480 And obviously, she would be renounced as a traitor if she said that Canada or Alberta should

00:53:27.320 join the US. So she handled that very well. And as I've said, I just I don't think it's a good idea.

00:53:32.200 I'm not really interested in being guided by a bigger federal government. And look, a lot of

00:53:36.760 people say, oh, America and Canada, they're so similar. And I mean, sure, if you compare Canada

00:53:41.720 and the United States to say to a place like Japan or China, then we are quite similar. But having spent

00:53:46.440 a significant amount of time in both countries, I do believe that they are very different and that each of

00:53:50.440 the country has significantly different attitudes. And so I don't think that it would be a seamless

00:53:55.240 cultural blend. And I think that Americans and frustrated Americans and Canadians would be quite

00:54:00.440 frustrated with each other, actually, and the different cultural attitudes that come with each

00:54:05.320 nation state. Well, it does depend on the region, right? Like I grew up in Vancouver and whenever I

00:54:10.520 meet someone from Seattle, like it's like they're like a long lost sibling. Like it's like we have the same

00:54:14.840 kind of ethos and values when it comes to like nature and being outside being connected to nature

00:54:20.600 and you're growing up in the Pacific Northwest, like commiserating over the terrible rainy weather.

00:54:25.080 Like I think that there are certain parts of the country that are quite similar. And then other

00:54:29.480 parts that are like wildly different. Like I think the example would be like Montreal and like Dallas,

00:54:35.320 Texas, like, you know, there's nothing a lot, there's not a lot in common between those two places. So

00:54:40.520 I definitely see your point and probably agree with it. Okay, I want to move on. This is the last

00:54:45.560 topic we're going to cover on the show today before we move on. I'm not sure if you saw this over the

00:54:49.640 weekend, we got a little preview of, you know, potentially, the next, the next prime minister,

00:54:55.720 future prime minister of this country. If, you know, things go horribly, horribly wrong. This is

00:55:00.760 Justin Trudeau, 17 year old son, Xavier Trudeau, releasing his own, I guess, a preview for his

00:55:08.840 upcoming R&B album. So he's releasing a song called till the night's done. And he put this out. So

00:55:16.200 let's play this little promo teaser that he put out online.

00:55:30.840 God help us if he comes prime minister one day, or our children. But I mean, maybe, maybe it's a good

00:55:41.480 thing. Maybe he's interested in music and not interested in politics, like his dad, and his

00:55:45.400 grandpa there. But I kind of feel sorry for him, because I just know that the people online do not

00:55:51.480 like Justin Trudeau, that people do not like him, and they will take out their rage and anger on his son.

00:55:57.320 Remember that Justin Trudeau posted this on Instagram back in October of 2024. He said that

00:56:04.520 a dad's number one job is to embarrass his son. And then he talked about how him and his son

00:56:11.080 visit a runway up in the north. I think we have a video of this just showing their embarrassing antics here.

00:56:17.480 Like Justin Trudeau is at the point in his career where everything he does will get trolled, and there'll be nasty nasty comments. And you kind of feel sorry for the

00:56:23.480 sun for what is going to come. I'm sure. With this, I know that the Economic Times is already covering this.

00:56:29.480 Economic Times of India reported on the story. And look at the photo that they included there.

00:56:35.480 A very, very embarrassing picture that Justin Trudeau posted, wearing an oversized pink hoodie,

00:56:45.480 with his son wearing an undersized tight pink t shirt going to the Barbie movie last year.

00:56:51.480 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what else to say. Rachel, what do you make of this?

00:56:55.480 I think that my approach to this is unique? I haven't seen a lot of people follow suit, but, you know, compared to Justin Trudeau, I have a tiny, tiny, tiny public profile.

00:57:09.480 But, you know, I still have a bit of a public profile, but, you know, I still have a bit of a public profile aroundos.

00:57:15.480 I don't know. I still have a bit of a public profile. But I have a public profile, and I still have a public profile.

00:57:23.480 but you know, I still have a bit of a public profile and so does my husband. And so in respect

00:57:28.220 to that, I don't post things about my kids online because I know that there's a lot of people who

00:57:33.100 hate us, who hate our political views. And I believe that it is my responsibility to protect

00:57:38.200 my son to the best of my ability. And so for the time being, I do not post pictures of him online.

00:57:43.120 I do not tell stories about him online. I keep my information about my son private because I want

00:57:49.440 to protect him. And you know, a lot of people are very free with posting pictures of their kids

00:57:53.380 online. And if you don't have a public profile, then maybe you're safe to do so. I'm still not

00:57:58.160 totally sold on that. And so I just like to keep my private life, my private life. And you know,

00:58:02.740 at a certain point, my kids, they will be old enough to make that decision for themselves.

00:58:05.980 And I think that at times we've seen Trudeau almost set his kids up for failure with some of the

00:58:10.400 weird things he's posted about them. Like that picture of him and his son in the pink, like you

00:58:14.640 just knew that that was going to receive so much hate. And maybe Justin Trudeau is a hardened

00:58:19.920 political operative who can handle that kind of public pressure. But I don't think that any kid

00:58:24.540 should have to, you know, you're going to be inclined as a kid to go look at that picture,

00:58:28.720 to go look at the comments underneath it and see all the hateful things that people are saying on you.

00:58:32.720 And I can't imagine that that would be very healthy for a young man still developing psyche.

00:58:39.200 And you know, I guess Justin Trudeau's kid, he's old enough now that he's decided he wants to get into

00:58:43.800 music. And you know, maybe he's old enough that he can make that decision for himself.

00:58:47.800 I think to your point, you know, maybe this would have been a good time for parents to say,

00:58:51.480 why don't you just wait, you know, till I'm out of politics for a little longer,

00:58:54.600 let things cool down till I'm everyone's not talking about me so much. And then why don't

00:58:58.600 you go ahead and and go ahead with your music career. But right now, it's just I'm afraid that

00:59:02.920 the way that people feel about me will really get in the way of your music career. And I just don't think

00:59:07.880 we've seen a lot of good judgment. And you know, his kid is still a kid. And I obviously am not a fan of

00:59:12.600 Justin Trudeau. But I would never say anything hurtful that someone else's children because

00:59:17.800 they are still child. And I think that's just over the line. But you know, to the point about

00:59:21.640 the music, there was a period of my life, I know some people are going to judge me for this where

00:59:24.760 I did like R&B music, I liked the type of music that we just listened to there no longer. I'm glad

00:59:29.720 to say that my tastes have matured and developed. But you know, what we can really see in that brief,

00:59:34.360 brief little bit of a music video that was showed is it's really money that is elevating this.

00:59:39.400 It's not talent. I mean, his singing is barely above a mumble. And obviously, there's some good

00:59:44.120 editing work done there. There's, you know, some good audio tuning there to make it sound really

00:59:48.280 cool and interesting. But from what I've seen so far, you know, I doubt that he's going to have much

00:59:52.680 musical prowess. But obviously, his family has the ability to pay for this as so often

00:59:58.520 with people who seek to be artists nowadays.

01:00:01.080 Amy Quinton Well, I completely agree with your point about

01:00:04.760 not posting pictures of your children online. I'm a big supporter and proponent of the digital

01:00:10.440 modesty movement. This idea that like my kids are not it's not that they don't belong to me. And like,

01:00:16.520 I don't I don't put their pictures up like their their images are private into our family. And they

01:00:21.480 are for our family only. And it is a very bad idea, I think, for people to post pictures of their kids,

01:00:26.920 especially we see so many sort of young influencers or young moms that try to become famous based on

01:00:33.160 sometimes posting like super private pictures of their children, children have no say, of course,

01:00:39.080 in whether or not their their images are going to get put online. So we adhere to that digital modesty

01:00:43.640 as well. And it's such a great way to live. Because when you're obsessed with Instagram and posting the

01:00:49.160 latest thing that happens, it's like that's all you think about and it takes over. When you just decide

01:00:53.000 to like put the phone away and be present with your children, not trying to like capture pictures

01:00:58.120 of every minute, you know, it just allows you to appreciate them and enjoy them. So much more like

01:01:03.080 I, I send pictures to like our family group chat. You know, I send around a picture of the kids in the

01:01:08.680 annual Christmas card. And that's, that's, that's about it. Because I don't think that people should

01:01:13.400 post photos of your kids. So we're in complete agreement on that one, Rachel and I do sort of feel

01:01:18.440 for Xavier. I think that this is probably not going to go very well for him. Last word to you.

01:01:26.520 Yeah, no, I'm glad to hear that you're in agreement on that. I think it's considered, you know,

01:01:29.960 controversial because people love to post photos of their kids. But there's a lot of really scary

01:01:35.960 and gross things that people can do to images of your kids and ways that they can manipulate them. So

01:01:40.200 I would just encourage, you know, any parents out there to spend a little bit more time thinking

01:01:44.520 about it. And don't just do something that has always been done because there's a lot of technology

01:01:49.560 has changed our society very rapidly over a short number of years. And it seems to be only now that

01:01:54.920 people are pausing and saying, Hmm, we haven't really thought about all the ethical implications of

01:01:59.800 some of the actions that we're taking that seem so normalized. And I would just encourage everyone

01:02:03.640 to do so. Great. Well, Rachel Parker, thank you so much for joining the show. It's been so fun to have

01:02:08.040 you on. Everyone go check out the Rachel Parker show. Thanks for joining us, Rachel. Hope to be back.

01:02:15.080 Okay. All right, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is

01:02:17.720 Candace Malcolm show. Have a great day. We'll be back tomorrow with all the news. God bless.

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Pierre Poilievre finally gets tough on deportations

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