Juno News - Pierre Poilievre pitches Canada on Joe Rogan's podcast

00:00:00.000 Well, Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev was a guest on the Joe Rogan podcast,

00:00:09.560 the most popular podcast in Canada. The show was released at 1 p.m. today and immediately

00:00:16.220 drew hundreds of thousands of views. Polyev said he did the podcast to sell Americans on the idea

00:00:22.700 of a tariff-free trade agreement between the two countries. The two and a half hour discussion hit

00:00:29.860 on a wide variety of topics, including Polyev's early interest in politics, to the viral apple

00:00:36.260 eating interview, to the reason why the Conservatives lost the last election. Our guest is former

00:00:43.020 Conservative MP Michelle Ferreri. Welcome, Michelle. Hey, Mark. How are you doing? I'm great. Good.

00:00:49.980 You watched at least some of it. I know that. What did you think? Yeah, I think I almost got

00:00:55.180 to the end um listen i i'm a huge joe rogan fan uh i i think joe rogan has what the world needs

00:01:02.700 more of which is natural curiosity and i think what he does and like i love this because john

00:01:08.720 stewart um there was a clip of john stewart floating around for those of you liberals who

00:01:13.140 who want to go at me for this john stewart obviously you know interviewed uh christia

00:01:18.260 freeland and i believe mark carney too and he said rogan is great because he has what the world

00:01:24.300 needs, which is curiosity, but also he has, um, the ability to interview everybody of all stripes,

00:01:29.960 right? I mean, he's had Bernie Sanders on, he's had all of these people on and Joe really tries

00:01:34.300 to speak for the people. He's not really into the politicians and he tries to call them out.

00:01:39.260 So I think it was, um, I think it was good, but the real benefit that Joe does is they're such

00:01:44.580 long form interviews. They're usually, you know, two to three hours. So if you're not used to a

00:01:48.640 Joe Rogan podcast, it could feel overwhelming. But if you're somebody who watches regularly,

00:01:52.420 he really pulls out who the person is and you get to see who they are and I think people did get to

00:02:00.100 see a side of Pierre that they otherwise maybe have never seen before. Yeah I think the fact

00:02:05.360 that you like Joe Rogan might surprise some lefties who say well this is not going to move the needle

00:02:10.380 with women voters at all you know this is just going to be more of that bro relationship that 1.00

00:02:16.640 he already has in the bag. I mean, have you heard that argument by some of the left-wingers?

00:02:23.320 Oh, listen, the left-wing people are going to be mad, like the radical people who aren't,

00:02:28.800 you know, open to ideas. They're just going to be mad regardless. And, you know, one guy said

00:02:32.840 in my comment section, they're like, Joe Rogan's an effing idiot. And I said, he's literally the 1.00

00:02:38.600 number one podcaster in the world. You might not like him, but to call him an idiot actually makes 1.00

00:02:44.540 you look like an idiot. And so if you have the ability to go onto a platform to speak to the 1.00

00:02:51.140 world about the country that you want to represent, why in the world would you not do that? And so

00:02:58.020 it's great. And for everybody who thinks that Joe Rogan is this crazy alt-right person,

00:03:02.960 they're absolutely wrong. I mean, in the podcast, when you watch it, Joe actually starts to demonize

00:03:08.700 the oil sands in Alberta and Pierre has to set him straight. And so, so, and Joe has said this

00:03:14.860 full stop, like he was more on the left side or the democratic side of, of politics forever.

00:03:21.620 And, you know, they left him and they became woke and they became radicals and they became this,

00:03:25.980 this, this group of people that you couldn't have a conversation with. And again, I go back to this

00:03:31.700 because I think it's really important and where we need to go back to his society is curiosity.

00:03:36.180 and that's why Joe Rogan has been so successful because he doesn't do short form he doesn't do

00:03:41.880 clickbait he has these long form interviews that give you the whole story and this is what he said

00:03:47.760 about Kamala Harris right he tried to have Kamala Harris on during the United States election and 1.00

00:03:52.700 she wouldn't come on and if I was Mark Carney I would absolutely be going down and doing Joe

00:03:57.520 Rogan as well yeah I mean it's it's amazing what he's done with that podcast he's revolutionized

00:04:02.720 media in many respects yes and uh because he talks about everything mark he won't to these

00:04:09.140 30 second tiktok videos but let's check out some of the clips from this interview starting off with

00:04:15.980 why he decided that now was the time to do this let's listen i'm glad we finally did this yes me

00:04:22.000 too i wanted to do it the first go around yeah i know uh well when i got the invitation we were

00:04:26.980 in the middle of the election and we just don't leave the country during election campaigns i get

00:04:31.860 And the problem we've had is we can't get you to come to Canada.

00:04:35.260 And so we've actually hatched a full strategy to get you into Canada

00:04:40.040 because we think it's going to do big things for our tourism numbers.

00:04:43.600 So do you mind if I present you with something right out of the gate?

00:04:46.220 Sure.

00:04:46.820 This is from a gunsmith and machinist in Calgary, Alberta.

00:04:50.160 His name is Jay.

00:04:51.400 And he's designed a kettlebell.

00:04:54.120 But most important of all, we've got a subliminal message, 0.80

00:04:57.080 which is the Canadian maple leaf.

00:04:59.040 Oh, cool.

00:04:59.720 Every time you do a kettlebell swing, you do a snatch, you do a clean, you're going to be seeing that maple leaf, and you're going to be reminding yourself that you need to come back to Canada.

00:05:11.040 Okay, so some people are surprised that he knows as much as he does, being here, Polly, about things like weight training and MMA.

00:05:20.540 Kettlebells?

00:05:22.300 Kettlebells.

00:05:23.160 By the way, it's hardly subliminal with the maple leaf.

00:05:26.640 That's like, you know, it's not like a flash frame going.

00:05:29.720 by. What did you think of that? I mean, to me, it's nice to see Pierre Polyev in a relaxed

00:05:35.200 environment. You know him better than most because you were in the same party as him.

00:05:41.280 Is that the way he is normally? That's exactly who Pierre is. And what I loved about that is you

00:05:47.540 actually got to see Pierre's hyper focus on something he cares about. So he like went on

00:05:52.520 almost to an uncomfortable point of talking about the history of the kettlebell. And you're like,

00:05:56.480 okay let's move on Pierre but that's actually who he is he's he hyper focuses on facts and history

00:06:02.880 and data I've always joked he may not like when I say this but data is Pierre's love language but

00:06:08.700 he's very very passionate about health and fitness and wellness and he knew that going in and he knew

00:06:14.160 that Joe Rogan and him had to find a common thread yes politics was going to be on the table for

00:06:18.960 discussion but what's going to connect us as people to keep a three-hour conversation going

00:06:23.320 Now, I will say with full transparency, and I did this last night, I had a prediction that they were going to talk about MMA and all of this stuff, because I know Pierre loves it. And for the, you know, GTA soccer mom, like it might have been a little heavy on the MMA, they might have tuned out. But I think it was, it really showed what Pierre cares about and actually just building a relationship with the largest podcaster in the world.

00:06:46.300 And I think that that's beneficial. And all while he weaved in what he can do for Canada, what Canada can do for America and what America can do for Canada.

00:06:56.200 Let's listen to another one. This is Rogan and Polly talking about the convoy crackdown. Let's listen.

00:07:02.540 Like every time I would go up there, I'm like, people are so nice.

00:07:05.920 They're like the nicest people.

00:07:07.860 And I think that's part of what went wrong for Canada is that people are rule followers

00:07:13.380 and, you know, they're trusting and kind people.

00:07:18.020 And, you know, this wolf in sheep's clothing snuck in and, you know, was pretending he

00:07:24.000 was a sweet guy and passing all these crazy laws.

00:07:26.800 And just when we saw what happened with COVID, with just what happened with the truckers,

00:07:32.540 and people's accounts getting shut down for donating to the truckers like the whole thing

00:07:37.820 was so concerning your thoughts about that well joe is exactly right it was insanity

00:07:44.620 um and joe's been a big proponent of canada and he's talked about this at great length and so

00:07:49.340 again i think it gives a lot of canadians especially with the recent liberals um insane

00:07:57.740 appeal again in the final hour of the federal court of appeal of invoking the emergencies act

00:08:02.300 that was ruled illegal by the liberals you know i think you know it gives a lot of people validation

00:08:07.660 like okay yeah i wasn't crazy to think that my government was overreaching and way was way over

00:08:13.900 uh overreaching for that so i think it's great i i don't know um i don't know what else to say

00:08:21.980 other than i think this was a really smart decision and i think people who are going to

00:08:26.060 dismiss it like what about when mark mark carney and christia freeland went on bill maher and john

00:08:31.580 steward and uh the other guy what's his name colbert you know like why wouldn't you want to

00:08:37.260 talk about your country and promote it but will it move the needle for women voters i mean that's 1.00

00:08:44.460 the one thing that the lefties have pushed on as i mentioned i mean you're a woman uh 0.79

00:08:51.980 male friends will come around or or not listen i think uh right now the only thing you're

00:09:01.340 going to see when you turn on x or social media is clips of pierre polyev on joe rogan and that's

00:09:07.740 a win that's a win and so whether you care about the whole interview whether you watch it or not

00:09:15.500 people are talking about it and that moves a needle because marketing 101 when your eye is

00:09:21.420 on whatever product that is and people are talking about it you're in people's minds and i always

00:09:27.100 think that's a great win and it is dominating the news cycle and i think it's great

00:09:31.340 Some people said that it showed him in a more humble light that he in fact has humility.

00:09:40.640 This was from the lefties, and they said they were a little surprised by that.

00:09:46.600 Any thoughts about that?

00:09:47.600 Yeah, I think we saw a softer Pierre.

00:09:50.580 I think we saw a softer Pierre for sure.

00:09:52.460 I think he could have went way harder that, I mean, a lot of us know that very assertive

00:09:58.180 aggressive pierre when he's fighting for for the little guy and he was very diplomatic i would use

00:10:03.940 that word he was quite uh diplomatic in a lot of his responses one key response he said that i'm

00:10:10.340 sure we'll get a ton of headlines is when he said i will not criticize the prime minister on foreign

00:10:16.180 soil and you know joe rogan goes that's very canadian of you you know you're so nice you're

00:10:22.100 so polite. And, you know, I think it, I actually, you know, one person sent me a little gif of a

00:10:28.440 person with a big needle of hope going into them. Cause I think this podcast gives a little bit of

00:10:34.260 pep and step to everybody again of like, you know what? Canada is number one, amazing. Even though

00:10:41.100 our problems are serious and bad, we are united together when, and Pierre went and did that on

00:10:48.280 Joe Rogan. Like, yes, we fight it here. And yes, things are bad. And there's a lot of policies we

00:10:52.940 have to change. But the way he presented himself on Joe Rogan is Canada is amazing. And I think

00:10:59.020 that's really valuable to anyone who's Canadian. Because I often say this about Donald Trump,

00:11:04.780 the one thing he should do more than anything is unite us as a country to be like, we're proud

00:11:09.420 Canadians. Yeah, he didn't go down and bash Canada. He went down there to South Canada,

00:11:16.860 not to bash canada that's right let's listen to another clip i think this is one the one where

00:11:22.300 he's talking about the famous apple eating video oh yeah one of the great interviews that i loved

00:11:27.820 about you you were eating an apple and you were talking to this guy who was being completely

00:11:32.220 ridiculous you were asking him to define the the issues that he had and it was so funny it was like

00:11:37.100 this is what happens when a rational person meets a person with empty narratives it was such a weird 0.95

00:11:42.380 moment because you just kept eating that apple it was such a it was such a good apple it was so

00:11:47.500 good that's the thing and the thing is i didn't even realize i was being taped i thought it was

00:11:52.220 a print interview oh that's hilarious that's why i think i was so relaxed uh but so i'm in the most

00:11:59.180 beautiful place in the world if you ever if you haven't been at the okanagan it's unbelievable

00:12:02.940 like it's lakes it's mountains it's nice dry weather and there's orchards and vineyards there

00:12:09.340 like you'd love it and so i'm in an apple orchard and i'm walking around just talking with people

00:12:14.700 and my staff says this reporter wants to do an interview and i'm enjoying the apple he comes up

00:12:18.220 starts asking questions nobody was there thought this was a moment like we thought nothing of it

00:12:23.820 we dumped the whole thing my my staff unbeknownst to me was recording my whole walk we dumped this

00:12:28.460 50-minute video on the internet no one noticed it and like three weeks later my phone blows up and

00:12:33.820 people say hey how about that apple i'm what is he what are they talking about this apple thing 0.74

00:12:38.140 And then, you know, within three days, everybody's talking to me about this damn apple that I had almost forgotten about eating. 0.77

00:12:44.480 Well, that conversation sort of embodied this issue. 0.96

00:12:51.340 It really did.

00:12:52.180 Because you have rational thinking and empty narratives colliding while you're eating an apple.

00:12:58.660 Like, you're so casual about it, you're actually eating an apple, which was so perfect.

00:13:02.900 I mean, you couldn't, if you planned on, like, if you had a PR team, I think you should be eating an apple.

00:13:08.140 They go, ooh, I like it.

00:13:10.080 So he's casual, he's eating fruit, it's healthy, you know?

00:13:13.580 It was totally a coincidence.

00:13:15.440 Like, out of nowhere, not planned, and not even noticed.

00:13:18.340 Like I said, no one there thought this was going to be a moment.

00:13:21.600 We just, like, totally forgot about it.

00:13:23.780 Well, it made it in America.

00:13:25.060 It was viral in America.

00:13:26.660 And we were like, how come that guy's not the prime minister?

00:13:28.920 What the hell's going on?

00:13:29.960 Well, in the meantime, you can buy Ambrosio apples from the South Okanagan.

00:13:33.720 I'm really plugging a lot of sales for the Canadian economy today.

00:13:36.860 Okay, so that video put Pierre Polyev on the map south of the border and probably got Joe's attention to the point where he wanted to have Polyev on his podcast, which is saying something.

00:13:49.740 I mean, Americans, they don't know a whole lot about Canada.

00:13:54.560 They probably couldn't name the prime minister.

00:13:56.820 So the idea that the top podcast in the world wants to get the leader of the opposition on, that's saying something.

00:14:06.200 that was a great exchange. What did you think? I think it's a really great exchange. What you

00:14:11.100 see in that exchange, like I was smiling the whole time, energy is transferable and Joe doesn't have

00:14:18.040 an agenda. Joe doesn't have an agenda to get a gotcha moment from Pierre. He doesn't have this

00:14:23.900 agenda of you are this or you are that, which is what we see so often in media. If you think about

00:14:31.680 a CBC clip with Rosemary Barton and Pierre, like Pierre's guarded because these people are

00:14:37.580 constantly attacking him. They're constantly trying to get a gotcha moment. And so this is

00:14:42.080 a totally different format. And there's a comfortable level there of two people just

00:14:47.140 having a conversation about a moment. And I love it because it reminds me of when I talked to Pierre

00:14:52.380 about that Apple video. And I remember him saying to me, like, why do you think it went so viral?

00:14:57.540 like he was he was genuinely dumbfounded when it did and so to see him communicate that to uh

00:15:03.700 to joe and joe perfectly explained it it's the casualness of what it was and it was just pierre

00:15:09.780 being pierre of like well who told you that like it was just it was just such a um an intriguing

00:15:17.700 moment and so uh i really like that clip yeah the fact that now it makes sense i didn't know that he

00:15:23.540 He didn't realize it was being taped.

00:15:25.820 If Chad realized it, he would have stopped eating the apple, probably.

00:15:30.220 And, you know, been more...

00:15:32.860 That's the secret sauce of anything viral.

00:15:35.460 It was never intended to be viral.

00:15:37.440 It was always...

00:15:38.240 Almost all the things that blow up on the internet or really take off

00:15:42.160 were something that just naturally, organically happened.

00:15:45.400 And that's why you can't plan for it.

00:15:47.720 Yeah, it was a very natural thing.

00:15:49.600 Yeah.

00:15:49.880 And all the memes that came out of it show,

00:15:51.780 this is you know personified and how you've got this guy this politician just asking just basic

00:16:01.140 questions about why is your why are you asking this question in this way does it make any sense

00:16:06.880 and here's why so it completely exposed the media and that's why it was such a runaway in terms of

00:16:13.360 people viewing it um i asked you like one last question overall well first of all i guess i have

00:16:21.280 asked should he have done it during the campaign when who knows it would might have moved the

00:16:28.220 needle and pushed the conservatives over the top or is that just something that's in the past and

00:16:34.920 there's no point dwelling on it listen i i don't know i don't know if it would have you don't know

00:16:40.860 i don't know i hate the what if game i think it it just makes you frustrated and makes you go in

00:16:46.820 circles all I do know is we're here now and you know like one person said on my social media they

00:16:52.700 said too late and I'm a big believer unless you're dead it's never too late so why would you give up

00:16:58.440 and what do you have to lose again I can't stress this enough it is the number one podcast in the

00:17:04.140 world we have the worst relationship we've had with the United States in my lifetime we have a

00:17:09.540 prime minister who promised to get us a deal who ran an election that he was the best negotiator

00:17:14.400 that he would never have tariffs and he has done none of it. He has delivered nothing. And so I

00:17:20.020 think without a doubt, why wouldn't you have somebody who wants Canada to be united again,

00:17:26.260 to be prosperous again, to be sovereign and to be respected on the national stage,

00:17:30.100 go down and sell Canada? I think it was a smart move. I have to ask one more. Will Trump see it

00:17:36.800 and what will he think? 100% he will see it. So even in the, there's an exchange in the podcast

00:17:42.960 where Joe Rogan says to Pierre, the narrative in the States is that you were going to win

00:17:48.660 and everything was going to be great. But then Donald Trump said, you're going to be the 51st

00:17:52.580 state. And everybody went crazy. And Pierre was actually really diplomatic, said, I don't think

00:17:57.100 they went crazy. Like, I think we thought it was a joke. And then he kept saying it. And Joe comes

00:18:02.020 back and says, yeah, Donald Trump phoned me. And he was like, you know, I said it as a joke and

00:18:06.160 they loved it. And now I think it's great. And Joe goes, it's not great. It's a crazy thing to say.

00:18:10.900 and so joe actually said what every canadian was feeling which was great um for that reason and a

00:18:18.500 hundred percent to answer your question donald trump and joe rogan know each other i think

00:18:22.400 they're i think they're you know well established i don't know if i would say they're friends but

00:18:26.640 they're definitely they know each other and a lot of people would tell you that donald trump's uh

00:18:32.280 election and winning had a lot to do with his appearance on joe rogan so absolutely i think

00:18:37.540 and I think Donald Trump has a great sense of humor

00:18:40.240 and I think he'll be fine.

00:18:42.060 We'll have to see if cardity goes off.

00:18:44.340 Yeah.

00:18:46.560 Thank you so much for coming on the show, Michelle.

00:18:49.060 Thanks. Anytime, Mark.

00:18:50.820 Michelle Ferreri.

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Juno News - March 19, 2026

Pierre Poilievre pitches Canada on Joe Rogan's podcast

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