Pierre Poilievre SEIZES the moment on Joe Rogan
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Pierre Polyev's appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience in Davos, Switzerland on Jan. 22, 2019, was widely panned by the legacy media, but was it the beginning of a new era in Canadian politics?
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I want to make it the freest economy in the world.
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And if I was a Canadian, I would vote for you 100%.
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The last episode of Ray Showed was filmed in January of 2025.
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There are moments in Canadian politics when a politician can break through the Ottawa
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And for Pierre Polyev, that was his appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast.
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We knew that Carney's speech in Davos made a serious impact because the legacy media
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there wasn't a single negative thing said about Carney's speech.
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you are going to hear near-unanimous praise from the legacy media
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over Pierre Polyev's appearance on the Joe Rogan experience.
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We certainly don't need the validation and approval from the legacy media.
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But the reality is, legacy media approval in this country
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is still the barometer that most of us use to gauge political performance.
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Whether we like it or not, the mainstream media still has the ability to shape narratives.
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And when the same outlets that are usually critical of Pierre Polyev are suddenly shifting
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tone and praising him, you know something real has happened.
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question for the episode is this. Is this the start of Pierre Polyev's comeback? Let me know
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in the comments below, and let's get into it. When we found out about Pierre Polyev's appearance
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on the Joe Rogan podcast, the world's largest podcast, we were all waiting for the moment
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when Pierre Polyev would react to Donald Trump's comments about Canada. He did so masterfully.
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There's a narrative in America and the narrative is that you were about to win and your party was
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about to win but then Trump came along and said he was going to turn Canada into the 51st state
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and everybody went crazy. Is that accurate? I wouldn't say they went crazy. I mean it like
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You know, we love Americans as neighbors and friends, but we want to be uniquely and we want to be sovereign as Canadians.
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It's where our collective ancestors put on military uniforms and sailed to fight wars.
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It's where our grandkids are going to live. We're very proudly Canadian. So we're never going to be
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the 51st state. And I just wish you'd knock that shit off so that we can get back to talking about
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the things that we can do as two separate, but two separate countries that are actually friends.
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This was always the right tone and position to take. If there was one politician in Canada
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who should be the most unforgiving and frankly, most angry at Donald Trump, it should be Pierre
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Polyev. Donald Trump is chiefly responsible for snatching an electoral victory out of the grasp
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of Polyev and handing it to the liberals. Now, what made this podcast appearance really work
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for Polyev was that it was different. We didn't get rhyming and alliteration and noun the verb
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slogans. And because it was a two and a half hour long podcast, we didn't get a recycled stump
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speech. What we all heard was a Canadian politician acting normally, but also someone who fully
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understood the weight of the moment and the size of the opportunity that was in front of him. Now
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if anyone needed a reminder just take a look at the size and reach of Rogan's platform both on
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YouTube and on social media compared to the legacy media in Canada. Combined CTV and CBC don't even
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scratch the surface and that's the thing that many in the legacy media still fail to grasp. Yes they
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can shape narratives but they are no longer the gatekeepers of information in this country. You
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can simply bypass them and Pierre Polyev just did that in a way few Canadian politicians ever have
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before. Millions of people on YouTube have already watched the podcast appearance and that doesn't
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take into account all of the added press and the clips all over social media. Now just for your
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reference take a listen to what Tom Mulcair the former leader of the NDP said about Pierre Polyev's
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appearance on CTV this weekend. Now if you didn't have any context you'd be excused for thinking
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Mulcair was talking about an NDP politician. I thought he was super well prepared and for
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something that was going to last that long every time he would get to something tricky like a good
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slalom skier just make the right move make slow down just enough get through it wouldn't touch
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some of the obvious traps was really thinking about what he was going to say I thought it was
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an outstanding piece of political communication here is even more glowing praise for polyev coming
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from the legacy media sometimes you need to go against type he on the one hand he's on the the
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joe rogan show so that'll appeal to a certain section of the base who like to see them touching
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base with that but he also took the time to sort of emphasize his differences not only going after
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donald trump on the 51st state business in probably the strongest language we heard at one
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point he said it was just crazy talk all in all i think he modestly helped himself with this and i
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think that poly have handled himself well in it i like the way he pushed back on trump i like the
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way he pushed back on on rogan a couple times but you know take all of this together i i think this
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strategy of meeting with u.s leaders media uh business leaders i think all that makes a lot of
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sense yeah look i think there's two things here so i i think i agree with everything that was said
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but i think a lot of people had a really low bar for polyev right i think he did a good job
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irrespective of where that bar was set for him like it was i agree it was a success for polyev
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by any measure now to me it was interesting listening to polyev talk with rogan about mma
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and jiu-jitsu and fitness that's all good and does a good job of dropping the mask about polyev and
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showing a more human side to him but the more fascinating part of the podcast appearance
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was when poliev shot down rogan on a few occasions here poliev shoots down rogan's
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claims about albertans wanting to separate from canada well there's talk about alberta separating
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that won't happen what was that about it won't happen um people some people are frustrated uh
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but they you know there's some legitimate frustrations but at the end of the day canada's
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going to be united and albertans i'm born and raised alberta and albertans are seriously
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patriotic very patriotic yeah and again poliev pushes back on rogan when he makes claims about
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canada's oil sands but the the great fear is that if you do have an impact on the environment that
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impact is often permanent and that it's devastating and i've seen some of the oil extraction that
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they've done up in alberta where you look at the area it looks like like scorched earth no no no no
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no no no no it's the most responsible or oil extraction in the world but when you
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when you see these what is that one area that often gets criticized fort mac is that what it
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is yeah it's they're open pit mines but it's the best industry in the world yeah they got me
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yeah i saw some videos on it i was like oh my god what are they doing to the ground
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what are they doing to the earth it looks horrible they're all it's it's all it we
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have the it looks horrible like yeah but i mean it that's just a superficial look at it
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Now, we do have to address one of the more viral moments from the Polyev appearance on Joe Rogan.
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Take a listen to this and let me know in the comments what you think of Polyev's answer here.
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But, you know, the great thing about Canada is we've always sorted our shit out peacefully.
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Like the Protestants and Catholics tore each other's eyeballs out in Europe for like hundreds of years.
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It's like you can come, you know, Muslims and Jews, Christians and, sorry, Protestants and Catholics, Hindus and Sikhs.
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eventually we all start intermarrying and uh it's a it's a great thing about canada here's the thing
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the problem with what paulie have said here is that it's just not true muslims jews hindus and
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sikhs they're not all getting along in canada right now they're not holding hands and skipping
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down the street that they all share they aren't sharing the same streets and they certainly aren't
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intermarrying we don't need to pretend as though the rest of the world isn't reading the news
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headlines of Jewish schools being shot up and the countless examples of Kalistanis and Hindu
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extremists battling it out on our streets and fighting over sectarian issues. We all see it
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and the rest of the world does too. There's no point in trying to hide that. But I think what
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happened here is that Polyev was talking about a Canada that we grew up in, not the Canada that we
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live in today. Before Justin Trudeau, if any politician had said what Polyev just said in
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that last clip, very few would notice, let alone make an issue out of it. Because it would be fair
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to say that on the whole, prior to Justin Trudeau, Canada actually did well in integrating newcomers
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and immigrants. That obviously is not the case today. So in this instance, I'm willing to be
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generous to Mr. Polyev and give him the benefit of the doubt. I think it's extremely unlikely that
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Polyev actually thinks we are properly integrating immigrants into this country today. We also need
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to point out the fact that Pierre Polyev has consistently adhered to diplomatic protocol
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while traveling on foreign trips. And he's right to do this, by the way. He knows that it is
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extremely poor for him to denigrate the country while speaking and traveling in a formal setting.
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The same also goes for criticizing the Prime Minister, which he makes a point about here.
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So I keep saying to the Prime Minister, steal my ideas.
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well he uh i won't criticize him on foreign soil but we'll uh but uh good for you yeah i mean uh
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we have a mutual respect that's such a canadian thing to do that is a great thing to do now this
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understanding paired with the more likely interpretation of polyev's comments that he
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was not talking about the canada we live in today but the one that we grew up in prior to justin
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trudeau i think it makes that moment from the rogan interview far more digestible for conservatives
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I want to highlight this moment as well. What I think is the most succinct and strongest argument
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against sectoral tariffs placed on Canada delivered by a Canadian politician. Here,
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Polyev makes Canada's case and does so in a way that is far better than what I have heard
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from Mark Carney. Take a listen. The, I think what are the biggest problems in America today?
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Affordability, security, and we can help with both. We knocked the tariffs down. Let's look
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at affordability. We have the fourth biggest supply of oil anywhere on earth. You guys pay a
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huge price discount for our oil because we're effectively, all our infrastructure to ship it
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is north-south. And it's a very unique, heavy oil. So we accept, unfortunately, and for now,
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a price discount on the oil we send you, which can translate into more jobs and paychecks,
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but also lower energy prices. You've got $5 a gallon right now in lots of places in America.
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You're buying, I want to produce more so we can sell 2 million more barrels of Canadian oil into the U.S. market.
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A tariff does not bring the production to America.
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It raises the price of the aluminum and therefore the F-series truck.
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You lower taxes, you lower the cost of an F-series truck for the miner in Appalachia or the electrician in Ohio.
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There's a lot we can do with our minerals to make the continent a hell of a lot safer as well.
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So I think it's in America's interest to come towards a tariff-free deal
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and trade freely as friends, and that will be good for both of us.
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He also made a similar case in a speech delivered in New York following the Rogan interview.
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Instead of fighting tariff wars with each other,
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Canada and the United States should be tearing down tariff walls that we have
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We should be promoting the principles of free trade among free nations.
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I reject the idea that we can afford to treat the current and very real problems we have
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between Canada and the United States as a permanent end to our relationship.
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Once again, listen to the praise regarding that last clip delivered by Tom Mulcair.
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And it was bookended by a speech that he gave later on in New York
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that frankly one of the best political speeches i've heard any canadian political leader give on
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canada u.s relations in a long time let's take a scan of the weekly headlines here the cbc published
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an article with seven key takeaways from polyev's appearance on rogan with basically zero criticism
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the globe did the same but this time with six key takeaways they also published an opinion piece
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taking issue with the amount of time that rogan and polyev spoke about jujitsu mma and fitness
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but nothing of actual criticism regarding Polyev's performance.
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The Toronto Star, meanwhile, described Pierre Polyev's U.S. visit as something like Polyev's
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opening salvo as a working member of Team Canada. Susan Delacorte rounded out her weekly column
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with this, quote, Canadian listeners to the podcast would have picked up on the respectful,
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even deferential tack Polyev took when it came to Kearney, saying he wouldn't criticize him on
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foreign soil and dropping the very interesting fact that he was giving the Prime Minister updates
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from this road trip via text message. This is all new for a Canadian public accustomed to seeing
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Polyev in stark opposition everywhere all the time. I don't know how much Carney and Polyev
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consulted over how that US trip would work as a Team Canada effort, showing a US audience that
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this country is speaking with one voice in the face of Trump's threats, but if this is a joint
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liberal conservative project, it worked this week. Look, Polyev needed this moment. He needed
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something to draw the attention back towards him. Let's not sugarcoat the political reality in Ottawa
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and what the polls are telling us. Some commentators might want to try to spin these polls
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and tell you something else, but the reality is the liberals are opening up a gap in the polls.
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Mark Carney is more popular today than he was when he took over as prime minister. And of course,
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a majority government is waiting for him right around the corner. All of that actually makes
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Polyev's appearance on Rogan far more important and far more serious. The conservatives needed
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this. Polyev understood that and rose to the occasion. If there's ever a chance to start to
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mount a comeback, now would certainly be that time. A reminder that if you use the link in
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for us today on the show. The comment question for the episode is this. Is this the beginning
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of Pierre Polyev's comeback? My name is Harrison Faulkner, and this is Ratioed.