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Pierre Poilievre SEIZES the moment on Joe Rogan

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Harrison Faulkner
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Pierre Poilievre Joe Rogan Donald Trump Mark Carney Tom Mulcair Justin Trudeau Susan Delacorte Ray Showed Juno
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Pierre Polyev's appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience in Davos, Switzerland on Jan. 22, 2019, was widely panned by the legacy media, but was it the beginning of a new era in Canadian politics?

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00:00:00 And that's what we need to restore in Canada.
00:00:02 I want to make it the freest economy in the world.
00:00:05 Well, that all sounds amazing.
00:00:07 How the hell did you lose?
00:00:10 Your message resonates with me.
00:00:12 Thank you.
00:00:12 And if I was a Canadian, I would vote for you 100%.
00:00:14 Thank you. Thank you for that.
00:00:23 Hello there. It's been a while.
00:00:24 The last episode of Ray Showed was filmed in January of 2025.
00:00:29 Over a year later, we are back.
00:00:32 Now, enough of that.
00:00:33 Pierre Polyev just had his Davos moment.
00:00:36 What I mean by that is simple.
00:00:38 There are moments in Canadian politics when a politician can break through the Ottawa
00:00:42 press bubble and the scripted scrum.
00:00:44 For Mark Carney, that was the speech in Davos.
00:00:46 And for Pierre Polyev, that was his appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast.
00:00:51 We knew that Carney's speech in Davos made a serious impact because the legacy media
00:00:55 told us they were gushing over it.
00:00:58 there wasn't a single negative thing said about Carney's speech.
00:01:02 Over the next 10 or so minutes,
00:01:03 you are going to hear near-unanimous praise from the legacy media
00:01:08 over Pierre Polyev's appearance on the Joe Rogan experience.
00:01:12 We all know that Polyev performed very well.
00:01:14 We certainly don't need the validation and approval from the legacy media.
00:01:18 But the reality is, legacy media approval in this country
00:01:22 is still the barometer that most of us use to gauge political performance.
00:01:26 Whether we like it or not, the mainstream media still has the ability to shape narratives.
00:01:32 And when the same outlets that are usually critical of Pierre Polyev are suddenly shifting
00:01:37 tone and praising him, you know something real has happened.
00:01:41 Now, Juno News is delivering Canadians with hard-hitting, reliable, and most importantly,
00:01:45 with independent journalism.
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00:01:52 where you can watch the full episode of Ratioed, and you can also get access to some of Canada's
00:01:58 best independent journalism. I use Juno to get my news, and you should too. Now before we get into
00:02:04 it, drop a like on this video, be sure to subscribe to the Juno News YouTube page, and the common
00:02:09 question for the episode is this. Is this the start of Pierre Polyev's comeback? Let me know
00:02:16 in the comments below, and let's get into it. When we found out about Pierre Polyev's appearance
00:02:20 on the Joe Rogan podcast, the world's largest podcast, we were all waiting for the moment
00:02:26 when Pierre Polyev would react to Donald Trump's comments about Canada. He did so masterfully.
00:02:32 There's a narrative in America and the narrative is that you were about to win and your party was
00:02:38 about to win but then Trump came along and said he was going to turn Canada into the 51st state
00:02:43 and everybody went crazy. Is that accurate? I wouldn't say they went crazy. I mean it like
00:02:47 Well, they got very upset.
00:02:49 They should be upset, though.
00:02:50 Well, it's a crazy thing to say.
00:02:52 It is a crazy thing to say.
00:02:53 Canada's not for sale.
00:02:54 We're never going to be the 51st state.
00:02:56 You know, we love Americans as neighbors and friends, but we want to be uniquely and we want to be sovereign as Canadians.
00:03:04 It's our country.
00:03:05 It's where we grow up.
00:03:06 You're a patriot as an American.
00:03:08 I'm a patriot as a Canadian.
00:03:09 It's where my grandfather arrived.
00:03:11 It's where our collective ancestors put on military uniforms and sailed to fight wars.
00:03:17 It's where our grandkids are going to live. We're very proudly Canadian. So we're never going to be
00:03:21 the 51st state. And I just wish you'd knock that shit off so that we can get back to talking about 0.99
00:03:27 the things that we can do as two separate, but two separate countries that are actually friends. 0.99
00:03:33 This was always the right tone and position to take. If there was one politician in Canada
00:03:38 who should be the most unforgiving and frankly, most angry at Donald Trump, it should be Pierre
00:03:44 Polyev. Donald Trump is chiefly responsible for snatching an electoral victory out of the grasp
00:03:50 of Polyev and handing it to the liberals. Now, what made this podcast appearance really work
00:03:54 for Polyev was that it was different. We didn't get rhyming and alliteration and noun the verb
00:04:01 slogans. And because it was a two and a half hour long podcast, we didn't get a recycled stump
00:04:07 speech. What we all heard was a Canadian politician acting normally, but also someone who fully
00:04:13 understood the weight of the moment and the size of the opportunity that was in front of him. Now
00:04:18 if anyone needed a reminder just take a look at the size and reach of Rogan's platform both on
00:04:24 YouTube and on social media compared to the legacy media in Canada. Combined CTV and CBC don't even
00:04:32 scratch the surface and that's the thing that many in the legacy media still fail to grasp. Yes they
00:04:38 can shape narratives but they are no longer the gatekeepers of information in this country. You
00:04:44 can simply bypass them and Pierre Polyev just did that in a way few Canadian politicians ever have
00:04:51 before. Millions of people on YouTube have already watched the podcast appearance and that doesn't
00:04:56 take into account all of the added press and the clips all over social media. Now just for your
00:05:01 reference take a listen to what Tom Mulcair the former leader of the NDP said about Pierre Polyev's
00:05:06 appearance on CTV this weekend. Now if you didn't have any context you'd be excused for thinking
00:05:12 Mulcair was talking about an NDP politician. I thought he was super well prepared and for
00:05:18 something that was going to last that long every time he would get to something tricky like a good
00:05:23 slalom skier just make the right move make slow down just enough get through it wouldn't touch
00:05:30 some of the obvious traps was really thinking about what he was going to say I thought it was
00:05:35 an outstanding piece of political communication here is even more glowing praise for polyev coming
00:05:41 from the legacy media sometimes you need to go against type he on the one hand he's on the the
00:05:47 joe rogan show so that'll appeal to a certain section of the base who like to see them touching
00:05:52 base with that but he also took the time to sort of emphasize his differences not only going after
00:05:57 donald trump on the 51st state business in probably the strongest language we heard at one
00:06:00 point he said it was just crazy talk all in all i think he modestly helped himself with this and i
00:06:05 think that poly have handled himself well in it i like the way he pushed back on trump i like the
00:06:10 way he pushed back on on rogan a couple times but you know take all of this together i i think this
00:06:17 strategy of meeting with u.s leaders media uh business leaders i think all that makes a lot of
00:06:22 sense yeah look i think there's two things here so i i think i agree with everything that was said
00:06:26 but i think a lot of people had a really low bar for polyev right i think he did a good job
00:06:31 irrespective of where that bar was set for him like it was i agree it was a success for polyev
00:06:36 by any measure now to me it was interesting listening to polyev talk with rogan about mma
00:06:41 and jiu-jitsu and fitness that's all good and does a good job of dropping the mask about polyev and
00:06:47 showing a more human side to him but the more fascinating part of the podcast appearance
00:06:52 was when poliev shot down rogan on a few occasions here poliev shoots down rogan's
00:06:58 claims about albertans wanting to separate from canada well there's talk about alberta separating
00:07:03 that won't happen what was that about it won't happen um people some people are frustrated uh
00:07:08 but they you know there's some legitimate frustrations but at the end of the day canada's
00:07:13 going to be united and albertans i'm born and raised alberta and albertans are seriously
00:07:19 patriotic very patriotic yeah and again poliev pushes back on rogan when he makes claims about
00:07:25 canada's oil sands but the the great fear is that if you do have an impact on the environment that
00:07:32 impact is often permanent and that it's devastating and i've seen some of the oil extraction that
00:07:39 they've done up in alberta where you look at the area it looks like like scorched earth no no no no
00:07:45 no no no no it's the most responsible or oil extraction in the world but when you
00:07:50 when you see these what is that one area that often gets criticized fort mac is that what it
00:07:55 is yeah it's they're open pit mines but it's the best industry in the world yeah they got me
00:07:59 yeah i saw some videos on it i was like oh my god what are they doing to the ground
00:08:03 what are they doing to the earth it looks horrible they're all it's it's all it we
00:08:07 have the it looks horrible like yeah but i mean it that's just a superficial look at it
00:08:12 Now, we do have to address one of the more viral moments from the Polyev appearance on Joe Rogan. 0.99
00:08:18 But if you want to see that, you first have to become a member of the Juno News sub-stack
00:08:23 to get this episode in its entirety and full access to Juno News' original journalism.
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00:08:34 Take a listen to this and let me know in the comments what you think of Polyev's answer here.
00:08:39 That's so Canadian. 0.98
00:08:40 But, you know, the great thing about Canada is we've always sorted our shit out peacefully. 0.99
00:08:45 Like the Protestants and Catholics tore each other's eyeballs out in Europe for like hundreds of years. 0.99
00:08:51 And then we came to Canada and just got along.
00:08:54 And that's the great thing about Canada.
00:08:56 It's like you can come, you know, Muslims and Jews, Christians and, sorry, Protestants and Catholics, Hindus and Sikhs.
00:09:04 They come to Canada and they just get along.
00:09:06 They live on the same streets.
00:09:07 eventually we all start intermarrying and uh it's a it's a great thing about canada here's the thing
00:09:12 the problem with what paulie have said here is that it's just not true muslims jews hindus and
00:09:20 sikhs they're not all getting along in canada right now they're not holding hands and skipping 1.00
00:09:25 down the street that they all share they aren't sharing the same streets and they certainly aren't
00:09:31 intermarrying we don't need to pretend as though the rest of the world isn't reading the news
00:09:36 headlines of Jewish schools being shot up and the countless examples of Kalistanis and Hindu
00:09:42 extremists battling it out on our streets and fighting over sectarian issues. We all see it
00:09:48 and the rest of the world does too. There's no point in trying to hide that. But I think what
00:09:53 happened here is that Polyev was talking about a Canada that we grew up in, not the Canada that we
00:09:59 live in today. Before Justin Trudeau, if any politician had said what Polyev just said in
00:10:05 that last clip, very few would notice, let alone make an issue out of it. Because it would be fair
00:10:11 to say that on the whole, prior to Justin Trudeau, Canada actually did well in integrating newcomers
00:10:17 and immigrants. That obviously is not the case today. So in this instance, I'm willing to be 1.00
00:10:23 generous to Mr. Polyev and give him the benefit of the doubt. I think it's extremely unlikely that
00:10:28 Polyev actually thinks we are properly integrating immigrants into this country today. We also need 1.00
00:10:34 to point out the fact that Pierre Polyev has consistently adhered to diplomatic protocol
00:10:38 while traveling on foreign trips. And he's right to do this, by the way. He knows that it is
00:10:43 extremely poor for him to denigrate the country while speaking and traveling in a formal setting.
00:10:49 The same also goes for criticizing the Prime Minister, which he makes a point about here.
00:10:53 So I keep saying to the Prime Minister, steal my ideas.
00:10:56 Right. But he doesn't want to.
00:10:58 well he uh i won't criticize him on foreign soil but we'll uh but uh good for you yeah i mean uh
00:11:06 we have a mutual respect that's such a canadian thing to do that is a great thing to do now this
00:11:11 understanding paired with the more likely interpretation of polyev's comments that he
00:11:15 was not talking about the canada we live in today but the one that we grew up in prior to justin
00:11:20 trudeau i think it makes that moment from the rogan interview far more digestible for conservatives
00:11:26 I want to highlight this moment as well. What I think is the most succinct and strongest argument
00:11:32 against sectoral tariffs placed on Canada delivered by a Canadian politician. Here,
00:11:37 Polyev makes Canada's case and does so in a way that is far better than what I have heard
00:11:42 from Mark Carney. Take a listen. The, I think what are the biggest problems in America today?
00:11:48 Affordability, security, and we can help with both. We knocked the tariffs down. Let's look
00:11:52 at affordability. We have the fourth biggest supply of oil anywhere on earth. You guys pay a
00:11:57 huge price discount for our oil because we're effectively, all our infrastructure to ship it
00:12:02 is north-south. And it's a very unique, heavy oil. So we accept, unfortunately, and for now,
00:12:10 a price discount on the oil we send you, which can translate into more jobs and paychecks,
00:12:15 but also lower energy prices. You've got $5 a gallon right now in lots of places in America.
00:12:21 You're buying, I want to produce more so we can sell 2 million more barrels of Canadian oil into the U.S. market.
00:12:27 A tariff does not bring the production to America.
00:12:29 It raises the price of the aluminum and therefore the F-series truck.
00:12:33 Get rid of that tariff.
00:12:35 You lower taxes, you lower the cost of an F-series truck for the miner in Appalachia or the electrician in Ohio.
00:12:43 And that's just on the affordability side.
00:12:45 There's a lot we can do with our minerals to make the continent a hell of a lot safer as well.
00:12:51 So I think it's in America's interest to come towards a tariff-free deal
00:12:55 and trade freely as friends, and that will be good for both of us.
00:13:01 He also made a similar case in a speech delivered in New York following the Rogan interview.
00:13:06 Instead of fighting tariff wars with each other,
00:13:08 Canada and the United States should be tearing down tariff walls that we have
00:13:12 and forging a closer tie.
00:13:14 We should be promoting the principles of free trade among free nations.
00:13:19 I reject the idea that we can afford to treat the current and very real problems we have
00:13:25 between Canada and the United States as a permanent end to our relationship.
00:13:29 They're not.
00:13:30 Once again, listen to the praise regarding that last clip delivered by Tom Mulcair.
00:13:36 And it was bookended by a speech that he gave later on in New York
00:13:40 that frankly one of the best political speeches i've heard any canadian political leader give on
00:13:45 canada u.s relations in a long time let's take a scan of the weekly headlines here the cbc published
00:13:52 an article with seven key takeaways from polyev's appearance on rogan with basically zero criticism
00:13:59 the globe did the same but this time with six key takeaways they also published an opinion piece
00:14:04 taking issue with the amount of time that rogan and polyev spoke about jujitsu mma and fitness
00:14:10 but nothing of actual criticism regarding Polyev's performance.
00:14:14 The Toronto Star, meanwhile, described Pierre Polyev's U.S. visit as something like Polyev's
00:14:20 opening salvo as a working member of Team Canada. Susan Delacorte rounded out her weekly column
00:14:26 with this, quote, Canadian listeners to the podcast would have picked up on the respectful,
00:14:31 even deferential tack Polyev took when it came to Kearney, saying he wouldn't criticize him on
00:14:35 foreign soil and dropping the very interesting fact that he was giving the Prime Minister updates
00:14:40 from this road trip via text message. This is all new for a Canadian public accustomed to seeing
00:14:45 Polyev in stark opposition everywhere all the time. I don't know how much Carney and Polyev
00:14:50 consulted over how that US trip would work as a Team Canada effort, showing a US audience that
00:14:55 this country is speaking with one voice in the face of Trump's threats, but if this is a joint
00:15:00 liberal conservative project, it worked this week. Look, Polyev needed this moment. He needed
00:15:06 something to draw the attention back towards him. Let's not sugarcoat the political reality in Ottawa
00:15:12 and what the polls are telling us. Some commentators might want to try to spin these polls
00:15:17 and tell you something else, but the reality is the liberals are opening up a gap in the polls.
00:15:22 Mark Carney is more popular today than he was when he took over as prime minister. And of course,
00:15:28 a majority government is waiting for him right around the corner. All of that actually makes
00:15:33 Polyev's appearance on Rogan far more important and far more serious. The conservatives needed
00:15:39 this. Polyev understood that and rose to the occasion. If there's ever a chance to start to
00:15:45 mount a comeback, now would certainly be that time. A reminder that if you use the link in
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00:15:55 for us today on the show. The comment question for the episode is this. Is this the beginning
00:16:01 of Pierre Polyev's comeback? My name is Harrison Faulkner, and this is Ratioed.