Juno News - Poilievre and the legacy media clash – again!

00:00:00.240 Sue Ann, why aren't you just doing the show from the pool? That would be much more fun.

00:00:04.000 The pool with my bathing suit on?

00:00:06.120 Well, you know, it might be good for donations.

00:00:08.960 Oh, I don't know. I think it'd scare people away, despite the weight loss.

00:00:16.720 I don't know, Harris, what do you think?

00:00:18.740 Just making the audience jealous down in Florida, it looks like.

00:00:22.560 Yeah, yeah, it certainly does that. All right, let's get this started.

00:00:30.000 Welcome to Off the Record.

00:00:36.760 This is True North's newest show, where we all shed our inhibitions and pretenses and let loose.

00:00:44.420 Cut loose, let loose. We both cut and let loose on the stories of the week,

00:00:48.760 some of which we've talked about on our show and have reported on,

00:00:51.900 but we do it in a more casual and informal way, and we have tried to have, anyway, some fun in the process.

00:00:57.580 We've had great feedback on this so far, so hopefully we'll get to some of your responses as the show progresses.

00:01:04.280 Last time we forgot, and this time I might forget too, because I just remembered now.

00:01:07.940 So we do eventually want to read your comments on this.

00:01:10.640 Anyway, joined by Harrison Faulkner, host of Ratioed and The Faulkner Show, and also Sue Ann Levy.

00:01:16.880 Great to have you both on.

00:01:18.100 How are the weeks? I'll start with you, Sue Ann,

00:01:19.540 because your week will just make Harrison and I jealous, because we're in Ontario weather right now.

00:01:24.180 It's been wonderful. Actually, the weather has improved tremendously after two months of pretty Cacapucu,

00:01:31.340 pupu weather, you know, clouds and rain.

00:01:33.760 So it's really nice to see, and I went to the beach yesterday.

00:01:38.280 Harrison, you didn't go to the beach yesterday, did you?

00:01:40.400 No, I'm afraid not.

00:01:41.660 The Cherry Beach down in Toronto doesn't sound as appealing as a Florida beach right now.

00:01:48.980 The week was all right, but it was a little strange.

00:01:51.600 Like, we had some—we passed a grim mark with the church burnings.

00:01:55.360 We had some very strange interactions with journalists.

00:01:58.240 We'll go through all that on the show.

00:01:59.520 But, you know, it was just another week in Trudeau's Canada, I guess.

00:02:03.840 Yeah, fair enough.

00:02:04.920 Just on the beaches in Toronto, very, very misleading,

00:02:08.760 because I used to work—when I worked in radio, I worked at Chorus Key, which is on the waterfront.

00:02:13.340 And I was told, oh, you'll be right next to Sugar Beach.

00:02:15.920 And I'm like, oh, a beach? That seems like a weird place for a beach.

00:02:18.120 And then you look out the window, and it's just like this fake, like, I don't know,

00:02:21.260 like 200 square feet of sand in between a sugar factory and a radio station.

00:02:26.700 This is not what a beach is.

00:02:28.180 I want the Sue Ann type of beach. 0.87

00:02:30.340 But there are plenty of umbrellas on that beach, aren't there, Andrew?

00:02:33.300 There is.

00:02:33.860 Yeah, you can put umbrellas up.

00:02:35.980 That doesn't make it, like, plus 30 degrees and salt water.

00:02:39.480 It's like, I don't even know if you—I don't even know if you can go in the water there.

00:02:42.280 I think it's, like, just like an over—I just don't get it.

00:02:45.000 I just don't get what Sugar Beach is supposed to be.

00:02:47.400 That's it.

00:02:48.860 If you're from Alberta, you're like, what the hell are they talking about?

00:02:51.100 So let's talk about something that can unite us all,

00:02:54.040 which is the spectacle that is Pierre Polyev versus the media.

00:02:58.500 This has become a dog bites man type of story.

00:03:02.460 There are just so many instances of Pierre Polyev and journalists scrapping.

00:03:06.440 The most recent one—I talked about it a bit on my show—

00:03:09.000 was him with a Canadian press reporter on—well, just take a look.

00:03:15.000 Why did your party want to grant over $100 million in regulatory relief to the mainstream media?

00:03:23.940 We don't want to give any tax dollars to the mainstream media.

00:03:27.140 We—our belief is that the mainstream media and all—

00:03:29.340 Did you regret your decision, then?

00:03:30.640 Your party's decision to grant regulatory relief?

00:03:33.460 So I'll answer your question.

00:03:34.880 The media that is bought and fade poor—where are you from, by the way?

00:03:40.260 Which outlet are you in?

00:03:42.880 Which outlet?

00:03:44.320 Which outlet?

00:03:44.900 Canadian press.

00:03:45.660 Ah, okay.

00:03:46.320 Canadian press.

00:03:47.380 So you're talking about tax dollars for media.

00:03:50.620 Isn't CBC your biggest—

00:03:51.880 I can answer.

00:03:53.260 I asked regulatory relief.

00:03:54.040 You want an answer?

00:03:55.240 The party wants to grant $100 million in regulatory relief to the mainstream media.

00:04:00.420 When would you like me to respond?

00:04:03.280 Okay.

00:04:03.980 Good.

00:04:04.700 Okay, great.

00:04:05.840 So, of course, you are a tax-funded media outlet and spreading Justin Trudeau's message.

00:04:10.820 Why did you—

00:04:11.320 And—and—so you're—you're interrupting me again.

00:04:14.020 You're interrupting me again.

00:04:15.200 I am answering the question.

00:04:16.360 Do you regret granting $100 million in regulatory relief to the mainstream media, including—

00:04:23.580 Your question is false.

00:04:24.560 So if you can allow me to correct your falsehoods, then we can answer the question directly.

00:04:29.080 So, false.

00:04:30.900 Canadian conservatives do not believe in giving tax dollars to media outlets.

00:04:34.700 That's Justin Trudeau.

00:04:35.780 That's Justin Trudeau.

00:04:36.920 That's Justin Trudeau.

00:04:38.280 Okay, if you don't want me to answer the question, I'll move on to someone else.

00:04:41.940 You're a tax-funded mouthpiece to the PMO.

00:04:44.980 That's the reality.

00:04:46.360 So—

00:04:46.840 I'd love the question answered.

00:04:47.980 You committed to answer the question.

00:04:49.540 I'm trying to.

00:04:50.260 But you're heckling.

00:04:51.460 Are you going to let me answer the question, or are you just going to heckle on behalf of Justin Trudeau?

00:04:57.080 Which is it?

00:04:57.780 I would love the answer.

00:04:58.660 Great.

00:04:59.220 So our party does not support tax dollars for media outlets, because that's when we end up with bias media like you,

00:05:04.620 who come here and articulate the PMO talking points, rather than delivering real news to the Canadian people.

00:05:13.100 Justin Trudeau gave Bell Media and other media tax dollars supposedly to protect media jobs.

00:05:20.240 And then what happened?

00:05:21.380 They all got laid off.

00:05:23.000 So the supposed justification for giving Bell all this money was that it was going to save media jobs.

00:05:31.480 Well, they all got fired.

00:05:32.600 So I guess that wasn't the real reason for giving tax dollars to the media.

00:05:37.280 The real reason was for him to buy support from the media, which is what it actually did.

00:05:41.740 So we believe that media should be driven by readership, viewership, and listenership.

00:05:49.200 And that's what allows it to represent the Canadian people, rather than taking marching orders from the PMO.

00:05:57.800 All right.

00:05:58.660 On a scale of cringe to stick it into my veins, where are you on those sorts of exchanges, Harrison?

00:06:05.400 I'm all for it at this point.

00:06:07.180 I really am.

00:06:07.920 I have to say that the Conservative base was crying out for someone to finally address the legacy media this way.

00:06:16.320 And we've got it.

00:06:17.680 You know, not everybody is satisfied with Pierre Pauliev so far.

00:06:20.840 But I think it'd be tough for many Conservatives in this country to say that they don't enjoy seeing the Canadian press and CBC get treated this way 0.93

00:06:29.440 when they ask ridiculous questions like that. 0.82

00:06:31.620 So I think, you know what, I'm all for it. 0.79

00:06:33.300 I think it's well past time that some of the legacy media press in this country got a taste of their own medicine

00:06:39.120 and were treated with the kind of respect that they themselves deserve, which is not a lot.

00:06:43.980 Yeah, Sue Ann, you've been a political candidate in the past.

00:06:46.660 You've also been, for much more of your life, a journalist.

00:06:50.060 How do you look at those sorts of exchanges?

00:06:53.500 Delicious.

00:06:54.200 They're absolutely delicious.

00:06:55.640 Love them.

00:06:56.140 I spent 20 years at City Hall in Toronto, and I was the lone person out asking tough questions.

00:07:04.640 And I always got put down by the person I was asking the questions of, particularly the mayors.

00:07:11.900 And everybody else would laugh and find it quite funny.

00:07:15.780 And it's nice to see the shoe on the other foot.

00:07:17.840 And the thing that really, really makes me happy and find it delicious is that Pierre is so cool about it.

00:07:27.660 He doesn't get ruffled in the slightest.

00:07:29.720 He has a great technique.

00:07:31.600 And it's about time, as Harrison said, that these people were called out because I find it despicable.

00:07:38.720 So you don't take the Pascal Saint-Ange view, I infer from your answer, that this is an attack on democracy.

00:07:47.820 She really said this.

00:07:48.920 Take a look.

00:07:50.380 I just want to get back on the altercation between Pierre Poilievre yesterday and a journalist from Canadian press.

00:07:57.920 First of all, I want to say that he's pretty thin-skinned.

00:08:01.680 It's our job when we're politicians to answer questions from journalists.

00:08:05.900 We're accountable to the Canadian population, and it's the journalist's job to ask those questions.

00:08:11.420 Some questions are difficult.

00:08:12.740 Some questions are easy.

00:08:14.480 Yesterday's question was pretty easy.

00:08:16.840 He was just asked to explain why his party introduced an amendment to lift fees for Canadian broadcasters.

00:08:25.120 It's a pretty easy question.

00:08:26.440 It's his party that brought that forward.

00:08:29.760 So, yes, when you're a politician, you need to answer questions.

00:08:32.980 And when you're attacking the press, when you're attacking our free press, you're also attacking democracy.

00:08:37.880 It's unworthy of a leader.

00:08:40.300 Now, I should just say I've never interviewed Minister Saint-Ange.

00:08:44.360 My one attempt at doing so, it was a couple of months ago.

00:08:48.020 She was leaving Question Period.

00:08:49.460 It was around the time that there was a big kerfuffle about C-18 and the Facebook news ban and all of that.

00:08:55.320 And I had one question, and she got into the back of her limo so quickly and passed me off to a staffer who said to text him. 0.98

00:09:04.880 And I did, and I never heard a response.

00:09:06.680 So this whole, oh, we are there to answer questions. 0.99

00:09:09.260 Yeah, a load of crap. 0.99

00:09:10.640 So, Harrison, attack on democracy. 1.00

00:09:12.760 What do you think?

00:09:14.100 Well, it's a lot easier to answer questions from the media when you pay them off to write soft articles about you.

00:09:19.860 It's a whole different story when you're the opposition to the government that's stuffing the pockets of the media.

00:09:25.540 You know, I should also say that journalists and the politicians are supposed to have a combative relationship.

00:09:31.460 They're not supposed to be patting each other on the back.

00:09:34.040 They're not supposed to be, you know, treating each other with kid gloves.

00:09:37.520 A sign of a good democracy is when the journalists fight back against the politicians,

00:09:41.380 and the politicians have a right to dish it back as good as they receive it. 0.96

00:09:46.000 So, again, this is just completely ridiculous.

00:09:48.240 And one more thing, giving the money, giving media the taxpayer dollars is a lot different than lifting taxes on broadcasters. 0.77

00:09:58.300 And anyone who pretends as though that's the same is obviously just trying to confuse the public and push political talking points.

00:10:06.520 Yeah, what's your read on that, Sue Ann? 1.00

00:10:09.260 Well, I think, you know, she is a giant hypocrite. 1.00

00:10:13.340 I mean, all we have to do is look at some of the tape. 0.99

00:10:16.560 I mean, the proof is in the pudding, in the tape of Krista Freeland, for example, calling security and roughing up one of our colleagues from Rebel Media, Dave Menzies.

00:10:30.760 I mean, Dave is a character, and sometimes he asks for it, but in this case, he didn't.

00:10:34.400 He asked a hard question.

00:10:35.360 You know, it's really, really quite hypocritical to hear her talk that way because I don't know about you guys,

00:10:43.580 but I was muted, banned on Twitter, blocked, you name it, by politicians who didn't want to answer my hard questions.

00:10:55.840 So it's kind of rich to hear her talk that way.

00:10:59.260 Yeah, and also, let's not forget, Justin Trudeau is the guy who will, you know, say,

00:11:04.180 oh, the Globe and Mail story is false, the guy who bans media he doesn't like from being there.

00:11:09.440 So it's not even like they're living up to this lofty aspirational goal that they're setting out for others of,

00:11:15.960 oh, we'll take all questions whether we like them or not.

00:11:19.420 Yeah.

00:11:19.860 They never do.

00:11:21.720 They never do.

00:11:22.760 They cherry pick, and most politicians do that. 0.92

00:11:25.820 They cherry pick the ones that are from the friendly media.

00:11:29.500 The amount of softballs that I, during my career, heard other media lob at various and sundry politicians was appalling.

00:11:38.280 I mean, nobody ever really got, you know, many, many sides of the story or the hard side of the story.

00:11:44.120 So, I mean, listening to her, the big difference, Harrison and Andrew, is that now we've got somebody who's actually fighting back, and it's about time.

00:11:53.940 Yeah, and it flips the script, like the next election, because we're used to seeing the whole, like, deferential thing that Aaron O'Toole and Andrew Scheer did.

00:12:01.800 So we will keep an eye out for that.

00:12:05.200 This is a story that really was quite shocking, and I want to get both of you to weigh in on this.

00:12:10.840 But let's play the video, and just to set the stage for it here, this is a very heated demonstration that was taking place outside a Richmond City Council meeting in British Columbia.

00:12:23.340 The discussion was about a proposed supervised injection site, a so-called safe, by my quote, sorry, I need to, like, bring in more, a so-called safe injection site in Richmond, which people in the suburban community clearly didn't like, hence them coming out to be heard and be heard before City Council.

00:12:41.760 But then this happened.

00:12:43.160 What's wrong with Canada?

00:13:13.140 I've lived here my whole life.

00:13:14.940 I have lived here my whole life.

00:13:16.920 I've lived here my whole life.

00:13:22.440 Go back where you came from.

00:13:23.940 You're not a Canadian. 0.99

00:13:25.260 This is what this nice, white, B.C. progressive woman is yelling at this Chinese man, concerned about his community. 1.00

00:13:34.540 Now, when did go back where you came from become a progressive slur?

00:13:39.040 Because I was always told this was what, you know, the evil, scary right-wingers say, not the nice, virtuous lefties.

00:13:45.520 Yeah, but we heard that from the people who are protesting the Freedom Convoy as well, didn't we?

00:13:51.400 It is becoming one of those new progressive slurs against those who they disagree with, how the tables turn, I guess.

00:13:57.980 But notice what that woman says there. 1.00

00:14:01.000 You know, this is not Canada.

00:14:02.500 Apparently, she thinks Canada is supposed to be a country where every city is infested with drug addicts and with the destruction that comes with it.

00:14:10.480 I guess that's what she wants for Canada.

00:14:12.740 And anyone who disagrees with that must go back to where they come from.

00:14:16.680 Well, I come from Canada, and I don't want to see my city, although it already has been in Toronto, turned into a drug-infested wasteland. 0.98

00:14:24.340 But it's just completely ridiculous.

00:14:26.020 But again, what you're seeing is sort of the crumbling of the left here, falling into the traps that they set for their opponents. 0.75

00:14:33.420 Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know this man who was in that, and I feel bad he was subjected to that.

00:14:39.920 But oftentimes, I've always said, immigrants have a much more idealized version of what Canada is and should be than many people who were born here, because they chose to be here.

00:14:48.740 They chose to come here.

00:14:49.820 And this guy then sees people overrunning his community with these policies, which are magnets for crime.

00:14:57.140 You've covered these sites, Sue Ann.

00:14:58.820 So who is more Canadian, the Asian man that says, I don't want this in my neighborhood, or the progressive woman screaming at him? 0.93

00:15:07.300 Well, obviously, the Asian men.

00:15:09.500 All they have to do, these people, is walk to East in Vancouver, the east side of town, downtown Vancouver, and see what a safe injection site has produced.

00:15:22.600 I mean, it's a drug-addict wasteland.

00:15:24.960 And I was there last year, and it actually made me physically ill to see the way these people are living and allowed to live on the street, you know, in their fentanyl poses, in, you know, in their urines, on their urine-soaked sidewalks.

00:15:42.240 I mean, I've said this repeatedly, and then it came to Toronto, and people are seeing how these sites destroy communities.

00:15:50.980 And frankly, I've been against them for over 10 years, maybe 15, when Vancouver first started.

00:15:56.720 But frankly, they don't help drug addicts.

00:16:00.020 They just enable their drug addictions.

00:16:03.100 And all the arguments that were used initially to bring them in, I don't think hold muster anymore, because there's still opioid deaths.

00:16:13.920 And they can't argue that these things are helping at all.

00:16:17.400 All they're doing is destroying the fabrics of communities.

00:16:20.320 Go to downtown Toronto, and you'll see drug addicts lying on the street.

00:16:24.120 Well, yeah, and that's the thing here.

00:16:26.540 I mean, when was Insight in Vancouver, which was sort of the first one?

00:16:29.900 That has to be, what, 15 years ago now that that came up?

00:16:33.620 And anyone can look at British Columbia and Vancouver specifically and see clearly none of this has helped.

00:16:40.740 I mean, the situation has gotten exponentially worse.

00:16:43.300 So at best, it's made no difference at all, and at worst, it's inflamed this.

00:16:48.400 But that's the part that's missing, is that more of the same is not going to yield a different result.

00:16:54.120 So the fact that there was such anger in that video is so insane, Harrison.

00:16:59.720 Yeah, and the reality is it hasn't worked at all.

00:17:03.640 It is not saving lives.

00:17:05.320 These are political talking points, political dogma running up against a brick wall, which happens to be the truth.

00:17:10.900 You know, British Columbia set the highest annual death toll for opioid overdoses just last year.

00:17:17.980 And this, as you said, has been going on for years now.

00:17:20.120 It's the leading cause of death in British Columbia for youth aged 10 to 18, opioid overdose.

00:17:26.640 And now the B.C. government is considering providing safe fentanyl to children?

00:17:30.600 I mean, anyone who thinks that this is saving lives, as the addiction to mental health minister at the federal level will constantly repeat, or as British Columbia officials themselves will repeat, is running at extreme odds with the truth.

00:17:45.540 And they're just, they have their eyes shut.

00:17:47.540 They don't want to address the fact that this is making life worse.

00:17:52.060 It's ruining communities.

00:17:53.760 And it's ruining lives.

00:17:55.340 It's killing people.

00:17:56.020 Yeah, and let's not forget the shooting last summer of that poor innocent woman right near a safe injection site in Riverdale in Toronto.

00:18:05.760 And people, the community was in an uproar.

00:18:08.240 And the people who run the site and the health minister, deputy minister, they were down like cavalier about the crime that is occurring around these sites.

00:18:17.760 Drug dealers know that they're a target.

00:18:20.360 I actually saw drug dealing in action because I've spent a lot of time outside some of these sites.

00:18:26.420 Or around these sites.

00:18:28.140 I mean, it's absurd that the progressives think that this is helping in any way.

00:18:32.700 It's the best definition of insanity, frankly.

00:18:36.140 And I just want to add one more thing as well.

00:18:38.460 Take a look in Toronto.

00:18:39.580 If you happen to live in Toronto, you will know that the works, the public health city of Toronto department, is on Ryerson University campus.

00:18:48.360 So students who pay to go to university have to walk past a safe injection site, a site where they give out all of these safe supply drugs, as they're called.

00:18:59.720 It's just constant destruction and havoc on campus.

00:19:03.700 So the city thinks that that's appropriate.

00:19:06.960 Sue Ann, you brought up the Parkdale shooting.

00:19:09.240 There was a woman who worked at that facility who has now been charged because she helped to try and get the killer, the alleged killer, away from the police.

00:19:19.820 I mean, it's astonishing.

00:19:21.500 These are, as you said, Andrew, crime magnets.

00:19:24.140 And for somebody, some activist to be so racist and awful in front of that person who just wants to live in a community that is not infested with drugs, says a lot.

00:19:34.220 Yeah, and I should say, of course, the activists won out in this case.

00:19:37.580 The motion to consider implementing this site passed with a vote of 7 to 2.

00:19:43.400 It was just two councillors who stood against it.

00:19:46.520 Now, it's not a fait accompli just yet, but the way things are going, it certainly seems like that is likely to be the eventual outcome here.

00:19:54.780 But speaking of unhinged protesters, let's talk about what happened at Mount Sinai Hospital.

00:20:00.940 Again, this one is, I shouldn't even be surprised anymore.

00:20:06.220 Like, you think there are some sacred cows that remain in the context of political debate, but not when we are talking about the anti-Israel left.

00:20:15.240 Take a look at this clip.

00:20:30.940 I mean, 10 out of 10 on the climb, 8 out of 10 on the rhythm of the chant, 0 out of 10 on everything else.

00:20:47.540 Sue-Ann, I'll just, you know, give you the floor on this one as our Torontonian and also a Jewish woman who's been on the front lines of this anti-Semitism stuff for years.

00:20:57.220 Yeah, you know, Andrew and Harrison, this goes back to the fact that the police and Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow didn't handle this well right out of the gate.

00:21:08.060 And they enabled these people and empowered them to continue their protests.

00:21:11.800 The last I spoke with the police, there were, I guess this makes it about 495 protests in Toronto by mostly the anti-Israel left radicals.

00:21:25.140 I call them terrorists.

00:21:26.380 They are, their tactics are intimidating, you know, to strike a Jewish hospital. 0.93

00:21:34.360 Somehow they thought that related to Gaza and what's going on in the hospitals there, although that is all propaganda because the IDF never struck any hospitals as that has been proven.

00:21:45.620 But they just, many of them are people who are just totally indoctrinated, ignorant of the reality of what's going on, and they just get caught up in the craziness.

00:22:01.620 I mean, they just, they found a purpose.

00:22:04.160 I follow all of them on social media, and I follow the leaders, and somehow they think that these protests are going to help in some way. 0.98

00:22:13.900 I think they're all mentally unstable, frankly.

00:22:18.500 And I think that the police, and they're now handling it much better, but, you know, there were weeks and weeks, like almost eight weeks of them not handling it well. 0.85

00:22:30.620 And this has just encouraged this craziness.

00:22:34.480 More charges should be laid.

00:22:35.740 I mean, the person, when politicians give their platitudes and make their statements, like Olivia Chow did, and the others, like, you let this happen.

00:22:45.760 I want to say, you let this happen.

00:22:47.980 So it's rather, again, I'm going to use the word rich to be coming out and saying this.

00:22:52.900 And Jews in my community are feeling very intimidated.

00:22:56.140 To strike a Jewish hospital is outrageous.

00:22:58.800 You mentioned Olivia Chow.

00:23:01.440 So she did eventually condemn this, and Justin Trudeau eventually did as well, and Doug Ford.

00:23:07.360 And so they all eventually did, but it was notable how slow they were compared to if there had been, you know, an attack on a mosque.

00:23:15.060 And we've seen this happen.

00:23:16.360 But the way that the left responds to this.

00:23:19.060 So Olivia Chow, who's been, like, a darling of the far left and the even farther left for years, Olivia Chow puts out her condemnation on Twitter.

00:23:27.820 I won't read the holes, David.

00:23:29.120 But Nora, real communism has never been tried, Loretto, decides to respond this way.

00:23:35.700 Let's put up her post on X. 0.99

00:23:38.100 She says, Chow betrays everything it means to be progressive.

00:23:42.120 Now, leave that up, though, for a second, because Olivia Chow says a hospital is a sanctuary, yesterday's actions were unacceptable, targeting Jewish institutions is anti-Semitic, and hate has no place in our city.

00:23:54.380 So when Nora says this betrays everything it means to be progressive, she's saying the quiet part out loud, which is that what we saw in that video is what it means to be progressive.

00:24:05.520 Right, Harrison?

00:24:06.040 Well, certainly, it's a mask-off moment for Nora Loretto and for, I think, a lot of people who agree with her.

00:24:12.600 To speak to the protesters' mental instability, as Sue Ann noted, I can't think of a worse way to try and alienate Canadians from your cause than to protest like this in front of a hospital that has nothing to do with what these people are protesting about.

00:24:28.840 Now, I think that there are some people who protest Israel who don't protest out of racism, and they have things that they disagree with Israel on.

00:24:42.840 But when you're protesting Mount Sinai Hospital to make the claim that that is purely anti-Israel, pro-Palestine, and not anti-Semitic, I have a hard time believing that.

00:24:53.560 And you really can't, good luck trying to sell that to the Canadian public as well, because I've seen these protests, I've been inside of these protests, I've interviewed these people.

00:25:02.860 When you speak to them, they, of course, understand that they're trying to, you know, get their cause out to the public and they want people to join their cause.

00:25:09.820 But in that group mentality, it seems that they lose all sense of reality, and they're willing to push the boundaries all the way to blatant anti-Semitism.

00:25:19.000 And, of course, the consequence of that is alienating Canadians from their cause, whatever kind of Canadians were still perhaps, you know, willing to support these people,

00:25:29.620 because they're just showing themselves to not actually care that much about what's going on.

00:25:34.660 They care more about trying to make a statement about Israel, which, of course, is a statement about Jews. 0.99

00:25:38.860 So it's just ridiculous. 1.00

00:25:41.080 It's a deep-rooted, deep-rooted Jew hatred, deep-rooted Jew hatred. 0.99

00:25:46.840 And, you know, it started with targeting Café Landoir, Aroma, remember, at the beginning, and going in front of the Israeli consulate. 0.69

00:25:58.900 Well, that's, you know, you could make a sort of stretch that that is related to Israel more so.

00:26:06.060 But to target Jewish businesses, Indigo, the people who were charged with Indigo, didn't think they did anything wrong, even though they engaged in civil disobedience.

00:26:14.940 All these actions were not targeting Israel.

00:26:17.920 They were targeting Jews.

00:26:19.400 Let's make it, you know, pure and simple, frank statement.

00:26:23.700 They were targeting Jews. 1.00

00:26:25.340 When people write me on Twitter and say, you are a Zionist pig or you're an evil Zionist, they mean I'm an evil Jew. 1.00

00:26:34.260 They're not talking about Israel. 0.99

00:26:36.080 It has nothing to do with it.

00:26:38.040 And also, yeah, and I think on that point, I believe that anti-Semitism and anti-Israel sentiments can be distinct.

00:26:45.880 I believe they can be, but the Venn diagram is a lot more like a circle than these people tend to admit.

00:26:52.960 And I think that when push comes to shove, the nuanced, reasoned, moderate, non-anti-Semitic critique of Israel is basically as elusive as, you know, the Yeti in the wilderness of the Himalayas or something. 0.98

00:27:07.800 Because nine times out of ten, it's just trying to put lipstick on a very anti-Semitic pig. 0.99

00:27:14.140 Yeah, and they talk about, you know, you're a genocidal. 0.99

00:27:18.740 You support genocide. 0.78

00:27:20.500 This is the repeated comment I get.

00:27:22.780 You're, you know, Zionist. 0.93

00:27:24.200 They use the word Zionist.

00:27:25.120 They use the word Hasbro.

00:27:26.880 And like you say, they're trying to put lipstick on what is really deep-seated anti-Semitism.

00:27:32.340 And as well, these protesters will say this is about human rights.

00:27:36.140 This is about protecting Muslims who are being killed by Israel. 0.89

00:27:41.260 But these protesters don't care about the Uyghurs in China.

00:27:45.220 They don't speak up about other Muslims who are being killed by other Muslim countries.

00:27:50.240 They speak up when it has to do with Israel.

00:27:52.760 It's clear this has nothing to do with human rights because they have lots to protest about if it was really just about human rights.

00:27:59.620 It's not.

00:28:00.640 It's about Israel.

00:28:01.860 And as Sue Ann says, it's something much worse, much deeper.

00:28:04.920 We say in the Jewish community, if it's Jews, it's news. 1.00

00:28:09.180 Yeah, yeah, very, very well said.

00:28:12.780 I, when I was in Israel for the first time in 2011, I met an AP reporter there who said, you know, when, and he spoke Hebrew as he was Jewish.

00:28:21.780 And that was how he got the job being posted there when he was quite young.

00:28:24.780 And he said, like, people at AP bureaus around the world are lucky if their stories ever get picked up.

00:28:29.220 Where he said for him, it was like if someone sneezes in Jerusalem, he could write a story and it's going to get picked up everywhere.

00:28:35.780 So I think there's some empirical evidence behind what you just said there, Sue Ann.

00:28:40.120 Just to end things, I mean, I know it's a bit of a sour note as we head into the weekend here.

00:28:43.980 But Harrison, why don't you tell us what happened in Regina last weekend and more importantly, what happened in Ottawa in the days following?

00:28:50.680 Yes, of course.

00:28:51.620 Well, as Canadians who have been following this story will know, Canada was rapidly approaching the grim 100 number of churches that have been targeted by arsonists and vandals since 2021.

00:29:04.440 One, we've now since passed that.

00:29:06.760 We are now at 100 churches that have been targeted in this country.

00:29:11.580 And on Saturday or on Friday midnight, rather, the Blessed Sacrament Parish in Regina was targeted by an arsonist who was caught on camera dumping the contents of a jerry can onto the rear entrance of this 118-year-old Catholic church,

00:29:26.880 the oldest Catholic church in Regina, lighting it on fire and running away.

00:29:31.080 Thank God the church was saved by firefighters.

00:29:33.580 But this is, we're now at 100 churches, which is an awful thing to have happened in this country.

00:29:41.380 It's a blight on the government and the state of our country itself.

00:29:45.720 Now, here's where it gets even worse.

00:29:48.980 You might think that condemning an attempted arson of a church might be the easiest thing to do.

00:29:54.640 It might be the easiest, no-brainer thing to say, yes, I condemn the burning of a church.

00:29:59.940 But, according to the NDP and the Liberals, well, that was just not going to fly.

00:30:06.340 Take a look at what happened when a Saskatchewan MP, Corey Tuchore, I think I said his name right,

00:30:11.780 he got up in the House of Commons on Monday and sought a unanimous consent motion to condemn the attempted arson at the Blessed Sacrament Parish.

00:30:20.100 Take a look at this clip.

00:30:21.120 The Honourable Member from Saskatchewan University, Saskatoon University.

00:30:26.020 Yes, there was another attempted arson at a church on the weekend, Mr. Speaker.

00:30:31.200 And if you seek unanimous consent, you will find...

00:30:34.020 I hear that there is no unanimous consent.

00:30:36.360 It being 3.20, the House will now proceed to the taking of deferred recorded division.

00:30:47.760 So, no, no unanimous consent to condemn the burning of that church.

00:30:52.520 They did it again, however, guys.

00:30:54.380 The left in Canada's Parliament did it again when Andrew Scheer got up, seeking the same motion.

00:31:01.220 They let him speak for a little bit longer before cutting him off.

00:31:04.120 But take a look, they did it twice, this time to Andrew Scheer.

00:31:08.600 I recognise the Honourable Member, a former chair, a current House officer,

00:31:13.740 a member from Regina Capel who is rising on his feet for a point of order.

00:31:17.980 Mr. Speaker, Blessed Sacrament Church in Regina was subject to arson and vandalism,

00:31:22.440 and I believe you'll find support that the House recognised the right of Canadians to gather to worship or celebrate their faith.

00:31:29.620 So, I regret to interrupt the Honourable Member from Regina Capel.

00:31:34.120 But I could clearly see that there is no unanimous consent for this.

00:31:39.000 Absolutely disgusting.

00:31:43.100 What kind of people, Andrew, can't bring themselves to condemn the burning of a church? 0.96

00:31:47.660 It's like the lowest, lowest, lowest, lowest hanging fruit.

00:31:53.140 It's not even hanging.

00:31:54.060 It's fruit on the ground.

00:31:55.060 You can just kind of walk by and just sort of pick it up and say, oh, wow, here you go.

00:31:58.680 But, like, you know, it's one thing because I do believe that the anti-Semitism issues we've been discussing are very real.

00:32:05.720 It's not an either or.

00:32:06.640 You can condemn anti-Semitism.

00:32:08.000 You can condemn attacks against Christians.

00:32:10.420 But, again, Sue Ann, it's one group that tends to get a pass here.

00:32:14.840 You know, it just to me speaks to the breakdown of the moral fabric in our country that they can't even condemn something like this in a church.

00:32:25.760 You know, perhaps these lefty progressives, they don't like the police, they don't like religion, you know, and here we have drug addicts running wild and running rampant on our streets in major cities.

00:32:42.460 I mean, it's sad to say that Trudeau's Canada, I mean, in the last eight years, I mean, the decline in this country is real.

00:32:52.040 And it's very disheartening.

00:32:55.800 There's a lot of symbolism going on, right, with these motions.

00:32:59.380 And I think Christians who are watching this will have to struggle with the idea that if these MPs can't condemn the burning of a church, what does it say about how they think about Christians in this country?

00:33:13.620 I think a lot of people are going to be left with that question in their heads.

00:33:16.900 Now, it's also important to remember, this same parliament voted unanimously to condemn Canada of committing genocide against First Nations people.

00:33:26.560 So they could all agree on that.

00:33:28.100 They could all agree that Canada committed genocide, but they can't agree to condemn the burning of a church.

00:33:33.900 What do you think the reaction would be if not just, not a hundred mosques, but one mosque had been the target of an attempted arson?

00:33:43.080 It would be bedlam in the House of Commons.

00:33:45.380 And everybody would be freaking out over it, and rightly so, I should say.

00:33:49.520 Oh, and Trudeau would have been on a plane there.

00:33:51.840 He would have been there within hours.

00:33:54.740 And this is the thing that's happened.

00:33:56.280 I mean, when there was that debunked, I mean, you would remember this, Sue Ann, because it happened in Toronto.

00:34:00.220 There was that debunked hijab hoax where a young schoolgirl had basically falsified a claim that her hijab was ripped off.

00:34:07.760 And this was like, you know, Trudeau was condemning it.

00:34:10.480 And then when Toronto police said, yeah, okay, this never happened.

00:34:13.340 But therein lies the problem.

00:34:14.880 Here we have video evidence.

00:34:16.300 I don't think we need to play it, but video evidence of this arson attempt of police saying it.

00:34:22.080 And there you go.

00:34:22.980 You can see the screen grab of it there.

00:34:24.820 And it is slow, slow.

00:34:26.980 And to be honest, I still don't think Trudeau has said anything about it.

00:34:29.640 I know a couple of Liberal MPs have, one of them, Anthony Housefather, who's been quite strong on these sorts of issues.

00:34:34.980 But nowhere near the condemnation, like you said, Harrison, if this had been at another type of institution, which would also have been wrong.

00:34:42.880 Yes.

00:34:44.300 All right.

00:34:45.140 Fair enough.

00:34:46.360 Well, I was going to jump in there.

00:34:47.960 No, I was just going to say that I think Trudeau at this point is just dialing it in.

00:34:53.060 You know, I don't think he's really running this country anymore.

00:34:56.900 He's lost.

00:34:57.860 He'd rather jet off somewhere.

00:34:59.880 I mean, it's, I actually enjoy the interplay between the people running for president down here, because at least they seem to be passionate about what's going on, the border issues and all that kind of stuff.

00:35:16.020 And I don't, I don't get that feeling from any of the people in the Liberal Party, and particularly Trudeau.

00:35:22.540 If that's the case, and Trudeau is really phoning it in, and he's basically done, what a way to bookend his time as prime minister in this country.

00:35:31.020 One hundred churches attacked under his watch.

00:35:34.560 I can't think of better symbolism, quite frankly, to encapsulate Trudeau's time as prime minister in this country.

00:35:40.860 Yeah.

00:35:41.480 Very, very well said.

00:35:42.840 Well, that is all that we had.

00:35:44.220 But I do want to give some comments, because we said we were going to, well, I don't know if we told you we were going to.

00:35:50.060 We said internally we were going to.

00:35:51.900 A couple of comments from last week's show here.

00:35:55.440 Be still and know 2999, possibly not a legal name, says, love the off-the-record format.

00:36:03.280 Yes, Andrew, it's endearing, as opposed to highly unprofessional.

00:36:06.300 You guys are a great trio.

00:36:07.900 Well, it's not, as this show demonstrates, going to be the same group of us every show.

00:36:12.400 We do this, like, cutthroat fight to the death, and at the end we'll be left with only three laughs.

00:36:16.420 So we ditched Canada.

00:36:17.860 We threw her overboard.

00:36:19.180 We brought Sue Ann in. 1.00

00:36:20.280 Maybe next week I'm the one who is thrown overboard.

00:36:23.680 We have a question.

00:36:25.520 So we were talking a little bit about inflation and grocery store stuff last week,

00:36:29.160 and we were also talking about Trudeau claiming that Pierre Paulyev wanted to make Canada great again.

00:36:34.860 And Doug Patterson says we should actually just make groceries affordable again.

00:36:39.860 I don't know.

00:36:40.380 What do you think?

00:36:40.960 Should we trademark that one?

00:36:44.520 That's a good one.

00:36:45.340 I think part of making Canada great again would be making groceries affordable,

00:36:49.740 would be making life affordable.

00:36:51.780 So they work together.

00:36:53.180 But, you know, make Canada great again and make groceries affordable again,

00:36:57.780 the acronym doesn't sound as good as MAGA.

00:37:01.020 Yeah, yeah, MAGA doesn't roll off the tongue.

00:37:05.220 You're in MAGA territory down there in Florida, Sue Ann, right?

00:37:08.820 Yes, yes.

00:37:10.000 The groceries are still pretty expensive here.

00:37:12.360 I mean, I think it's part of a giant trend.

00:37:14.080 And let's not forget the fuel, gas as well.

00:37:17.780 Oh, when I was in Davos with Sean Thompson and Cosman Georgia from our team a few weeks ago,

00:37:24.860 reporting we were not like Klaus Schwab's, you know, invited elites.

00:37:28.360 We were we had a rental car and we were driving around and I never thought I could have a gas bill

00:37:34.100 that would make me long for the gas prices in Canada.

00:37:37.080 That's how bad it is.

00:37:37.980 So, I mean, the one saving grace is that in Europe, like we had this van and I forget how much it was.

00:37:43.060 Like with the exchange rate, it was something like, you know, $200 to fill up the tank.

00:37:46.820 It was insane.

00:37:47.440 And we were driving back and forth a whole bunch.

00:37:50.560 We'll do one more comment here.

00:37:52.260 We have one.

00:37:53.440 Who is this here?

00:37:54.200 This is from Woodjidgeses.

00:37:58.040 You guys got to work on your YouTube screen handles, by the way.

00:38:01.780 It's regarding Harrison's rental story.

00:38:03.860 The rules are being broken with these illegal rentals.

00:38:06.680 You have to provide a secondary means of egress because of fire.

00:38:10.620 That window in the basement doesn't look like it would cut it.

00:38:13.560 City bylaw and fire department should get on this.

00:38:16.840 Yeah.

00:38:17.060 Are they, Harrison?

00:38:17.900 Or has this just sort of been a thing where they're all just letting it go?

00:38:20.840 Well, I think if these landlords were interested in following the rules, we wouldn't see these listings in the first place.

00:38:26.660 We've long since passed, you know, rules governing how these landlords are going to operate.

00:38:31.840 These slumlords don't care much about the rules. 1.00

00:38:34.820 But, yeah, I can't.

00:38:36.260 It's a bit of a nightmare spot that basement department to be in.

00:38:40.200 And, I mean, of course it's against the rules, obviously.

00:38:44.340 All right.

00:38:45.040 Well, that does it for us.

00:38:46.600 My thanks to you, Sue Ann Levy, and you, Harrison Faulkner, and all of you who tuned in for listening to this program.

00:38:52.420 Just a reminder, everything you've heard in the last however long we've been doing this was off the record.

00:39:05.900 Now you get to jump in the pool, Sue Ann.

00:39:07.760 Not quite.

00:39:08.460 I've got to have my lunch first.

00:39:10.420 We just do lunch in the pool.

00:39:11.700 Do like a swim-up bar.

00:39:12.860 Yeah.

00:39:13.440 Yeah.

00:39:13.760 Well, thanks so much.

00:39:15.160 That was so much fun.

00:39:17.180 Sorry about the mic issues.

00:39:20.180 Stuck to the tea, Andrew, this time, I see?

00:39:22.740 Yeah.

00:39:23.260 Just, yeah, it's my morning coffee still.

00:39:26.260 I don't have any, I don't think, I don't have anything good to add to that side.

00:39:29.420 I'm, I'm, I'm tea-totaling it.

00:39:31.580 So I'm doing the, the D from Baker tea-total.

00:39:34.580 So I've just got to walk.

00:39:35.020 I like it, yeah.

00:39:35.660 You're a lucid and sound mind whenever we do this show.

00:39:39.240 Sober second thought.

00:39:40.800 Yeah.

00:39:41.200 Oh, there we go.

00:39:41.960 Yeah.

00:39:42.420 That's the, that's the second name of the show.

00:39:44.320 If we rebrand it.

00:39:45.140 Sober second thought.

00:39:45.920 Second thought.

00:39:46.700 Yeah.

00:39:47.060 Yeah.

00:39:47.240 Yeah.

00:39:47.340 Thank you.

Juno News - February 16, 2024

Poilievre and the legacy media clash – again!

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