Juno News - Poilievre demands SELF-DEFENCE laws for Canadians in their home + Smith WRECKS Edmonton School Board

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Hope everyone had a wonderful

00:00:06.120 Labor Day long weekend. That's it, folks. Summer is over. Back to school. Hopefully,

00:00:10.200 you're getting your children into a routine. It's always a bit of a relief

00:00:13.620 to get the kids back on schedule and busy with school. I want to talk about an interesting

00:00:22.080 development, a very good development from Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives. This episode today

00:00:27.660 is sponsored by Macamie College and a little bit more on them later. So Pierre Polyev is proposing

00:00:32.900 a stand on guard principle for self-defense. He is talking about bringing in something like

00:00:38.840 castle law. This is a huge area of discussion in Ontario. So much crime, so many terrifying examples

00:00:46.040 of home invasions. I can't imagine anything more frightening and more scary than a criminal gangster

00:00:51.400 breaking into your house in the middle of the night. And I will tell you that if anything like

00:00:55.560 that ever happened to me, I would use the full extreme extent of my abilities to defend myself

00:01:02.200 and my family, and so would my husband. And the idea that Canadians often get charged for defending

00:01:08.580 themselves in their home is outrageous and ridiculous. So it was great to see Conservative

00:01:11.980 Leader Pierre Polyev advocating for a change to the criminal code that would allow Canadians to defend

00:01:18.940 their families inside their homes. It is very ridiculous. This isn't already a law, but I want to play

00:01:24.580 this clip of Pierre Polyev in Brampton on Friday announcing a proposed amendment saying your home

00:01:29.600 is your castle and you should have the right to defend yourself even using lethal force if necessary.

00:01:35.220 Let's play that clip. Conservatives are standing here today based on the principle that your home

00:01:41.960 is your castle. We're calling on the government to introduce and immediately pass the stand on guard

00:01:49.360 law. Our amendment instead will change section 34.2 of the criminal code to say that the use of force,

00:01:59.500 including lethal force, is presumed reasonable against an individual who unlawfully enters a house

00:02:08.940 and poses a threat to the safety of anyone inside.

00:02:13.000 100% agree with Pierre Polyev on that one. Now, Canada's Attorney General, Liberal Minister of Justice,

00:02:21.120 Sean Fraser, jumped in. First, he shared on X a little small clip of Polyev there saying

00:02:26.500 using lethal force if necessary. Yes, if someone is breaking into your house and they have a weapon

00:02:31.940 and they may be willing to use it on you and your family, you should be able to use lethal force

00:02:36.880 to protect yourself. So he took a little clip of Polyev saying that and then underneath he writes,

00:02:42.560 this isn't the Wild West, it's Canada. Canadians deserve real solutions that make us safer,

00:02:47.220 not slogans that inspire fear and chaos for Polyev's political survival. Well, actually,

00:02:53.440 Sean Fraser, it's in part due to your time as immigration minister. You flooded the country with

00:02:59.080 not the high quality immigrants that Canada is used to getting, but just anybody who wants to come.

00:03:03.680 So we have millions and millions of people in our country, many of them who shouldn't be here in

00:03:07.200 the first place, contributing to the crime wave. Now, you're Attorney General. A large part of the

00:03:12.320 problem is because of your governance, you individually, you, Sean Fraser, you, the things

00:03:17.700 that you have done to our country, and broadly speaking, the government that you're part of,

00:03:21.200 including the Trudeau government and continued now under Mark Carney. And so, yes, Canada does feel

00:03:26.080 a little bit like the Wild West. So saying that it isn't Wild West and it's Canada on Friday,

00:03:31.240 that didn't age very well because the big story that came out over the weekend is that, yes,

00:03:35.580 Canada does feel very, very much like the Wild West here in Vaughan, just a suburb outside of

00:03:40.680 Toronto. As Joe Warmington writes, a father was fatally shot in front of his children in the middle

00:03:46.740 of the night, in his home, in his house. He was killed during a home invasion early Sunday morning.

00:03:53.900 Abdul Aleem Faruqi, 46, was merely asleep in his Vaughan home with his wife and three children

00:03:59.460 armed robbers broke into his house, demanded valuables. What happened next is still under

00:04:04.560 investigation by York Regional Police folks. But the horrifying reality is that, as Joe

00:04:09.920 Warmington writes, what did occur is horrifying for an innocent family who were minding their own

00:04:14.260 business in their home in the middle of the night on the long weekend of summer 25th. He was shot

00:04:19.800 trying to protect his four-year-old daughter. Goodness gracious, this is happening in Canada. It's just

00:04:25.020 so unbelievable. And yes, this happens all the time. This happens all the time in Ontario.

00:04:29.680 As we saw, home invasion at a local Ontario inn leaves two assaulted, and the suspects are still

00:04:35.780 at large. A little motel in Renfrew, Ontario was also broken into over the weekend. Police say at 9pm

00:04:42.120 Sunday, officers responded to an inn on Gibbons Road after hearing reports that two males had entered

00:04:47.820 a room, assaulted its occupants, and used what was believed to be bear spray, sold some property

00:04:54.320 before leaving. This happens all the time. And so yes, we need something more to protect ourselves.

00:04:59.920 Our country is descending into chaos because of the liberals. And so for someone like Sean Fraser

00:05:05.680 to say it's not the Wild West, you can't defend yourself in your home, is absurd and patently

00:05:10.380 ridiculous. All right, folks, I want to take a minute to thank today's sponsor, which is

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00:06:56.620 pleased to welcome our guests on today's show, which is Erica Baruch. She is the department head of

00:07:02.000 applied politics and public affairs at Macamie College. She's a former principal secretary to

00:07:06.320 Daniel Smith and the founding president of the United Conservative Party. Erica, welcome to the

00:07:11.640 program. Great to see you. Yeah, I'm very happy to be here. Okay. I want to hear your opinion. I

00:07:16.240 believe you are a gun owner. That's my producer. I am restricted and unrestricted. So I, I'm just so

00:07:23.300 excited that this happened. I was like, where was this during the campaign? Because public safety was

00:07:28.400 such a big topic. And the fact that I think that would have been a big contrast to this,

00:07:34.440 this liberal government, like Sean Fraser has two kids. How can you sit there, regardless of

00:07:39.460 ideology, sit there and actually think like, if someone came into my home, I'm not going to protect

00:07:45.720 my children. Like, it's mind boggling that this is even something that's being now having like having

00:07:53.380 to talk about this and those stories that you read the stories Pierre talked about. I just I can't

00:07:58.680 believe we're in a world where we have to say people that went through their pal and our pal

00:08:03.140 have a right to defend their house. Any Canadian has a right to defend their property is is actually

00:08:09.480 just mind boggling. Well, it's so true. I don't have a gun license. I didn't grow up like I don't

00:08:13.520 have a background with guns. But I did go out and purchase a non lethal gun because it legally

00:08:18.560 purchased through Canada. Because of this terrifying stories in the GTA about crime. It's not something

00:08:23.460 that I ever expected to happen in Canada. And I feel like under the liberal government, you sort

00:08:27.160 of have this like toxic brew of like massive borders immigration, plus a revolving prison system,

00:08:33.020 revolving door, bleeding hard justices, judges that just let let criminals off the hook. And then on top

00:08:38.900 of that, they are taking away gun rights and taking away legal gun owners rights to defend themselves

00:08:44.600 in the comments like this. It's just it's it's unbelievable. And I think you're right that the

00:08:48.980 public safety issue should have played a larger role in the election, Erica. I don't know what it's

00:08:53.260 like in Alberta. But in Ontario, I feel like every time I'm talking to friends or talking, you know,

00:08:57.120 at a family barbecue or at an event, everyone's talking about their fear of home invasions and

00:09:02.700 carjackings. It's just become it's just unbelievable that this is a major problem in the GTA. What is it

00:09:08.460 like out in Alberta? I mean, it's it's the same. I think we have a big conversation to around rural

00:09:14.860 properties. And I know Alberta's put some things in place to look to protect rural property owners from

00:09:22.520 people coming on stealing or messing with big equipment. And those do not come with, you know,

00:09:27.780 a low ticket price. That's someone's livelihood if you're if you're coming and destroying farm

00:09:32.920 equipment or something to that effect. But regardless, I think it is a coast to coast issue

00:09:37.520 of public safety. And again, like Pierre talked about making like we need to be in a place where

00:09:44.520 villains are villains and victims are victims. And we've kind of flipped the script because of the

00:09:49.500 liberal government. So I'm really happy to see this. I'm really happy to see that they're carrying

00:09:55.640 it forward one as a gun owner to not feel in a country where we do have significant process. I

00:10:02.180 mean, it's it's higher than getting your nexus to get your gun license and rightfully so we have

00:10:06.200 really great parameters on who should own a gun. But the fact is, if someone came into my house,

00:10:12.480 and I can only use my rifle for the back end to hit someone or to do anything to protect myself,

00:10:18.560 I mean, like there are stories where people are using any type of component in their house,

00:10:24.740 kitchen utensils to protect themselves. And the fact that someone it's violating on as is to be

00:10:31.340 in your home and have someone intrude, let alone hurt your loved ones. I just again, I'm glad to see

00:10:38.240 this. I am going to probably be very disappointed when the liberals don't vote on side of this,

00:10:43.420 even though I think that this is, you know, less ideological than the liberals are making it

00:10:49.000 out to be. It's about like you said, people stealing cars. And the message was to put your

00:10:55.540 keys out your front door in order to have the criminal, someone that's breaking the law have

00:11:03.040 access and ease to your personal belongings. Like, again, I just, I'm glad this is in place. I wish

00:11:10.180 this would have come up in the election. Cause I think again, people that maybe aren't conservative

00:11:14.560 supporters can see the common sense that this is bringing forward to protect, protect your own land

00:11:20.980 and your family. I saw a funny meme that was circulating on social media. And it was like

00:11:24.960 the difference between Americans and Canadians when it comes to castle law and the Americans they had,

00:11:29.500 it was like, I don't know, maybe I'll try to find and get the guys to put in post, but, um,

00:11:33.260 it was a sheriff saying, you know, if someone breaks in your house, you should kill them. And we prefer

00:11:37.420 that you do. And we have courses at the local community center that will teach you how to use

00:11:41.060 your firearm to kill someone coming into your house. And then it flipped to, you know, in Canada

00:11:45.060 and it was a sort of infamous, uh, uh, police officer, I believe it was in Etobicoke saying,

00:11:51.580 uh, just leave your fobs at the front door so that when the criminal breaks into your house,

00:11:54.960 they can just take the car and leave and they don't have to disturb you. You can just keep sleeping.

00:11:58.860 And it's like, you know, just the, the, the, the, the mindset of, you know, in Canada,

00:12:03.440 it's like, well, just give them your stuff and no one gets hurt. That's sort of what

00:12:05.860 the liberals are saying here. It's that, um, you know, you, you shouldn't be violent just

00:12:09.960 because someone comes into your house to be violent doesn't mean that you should be violent

00:12:12.740 back. And it's not saying, I mean, I don't think the encouragement by the conservatives

00:12:16.700 is to use force and be violent, right? I mean, my dad lived in Louisiana for 25 years where

00:12:23.800 everyone has multiple guns. They are all taught properly how to use them. I mean, it's very much

00:12:29.680 like it's also a sport larger down there, but you're right. Like they have that sense of security

00:12:35.460 in their own home. However, in Canada, we're very different and this is not, it's apples

00:12:40.000 to oranges on how our gun policy works. I'm very proud of our gun policy and all the hoops

00:12:45.040 and bells and whistles I had to go through to become a gun owner. And I think that the society

00:12:50.220 that we live in under this liberal government is telling me like, I'm a bad person and I shouldn't

00:12:54.700 be doing this. Like that's not the solution. And it's not my intention of having it. Um, a lot

00:13:00.920 of us use it for the sport of, of guns and firearms are going to like clay shooting and

00:13:07.460 things like that, that, you know, I don't know why we're feeling like horrible people,

00:13:11.220 um, or meant to feel like horrible people. And so you're right. I I've seen that meme.

00:13:16.280 I think it's quite comical. I mean, I don't think we're encouraging Canadians to be at,

00:13:20.800 at that root of here, go get your gun, um, and, and protect your home. But again, it comes

00:13:25.780 back to like the whole concept of this is you own your home or you live in your home. It is your

00:13:33.220 safe space. You have your family there. You want to protect your family. I think anyone,

00:13:38.640 any Canadian or anyone in the world wants to put that priority first. And the fact that we have a

00:13:42.940 government that's limiting that, um, is so disappointing, not just as a gun owner or as a

00:13:49.280 conservative, but as a Canadian, I can't believe that we're even having a conversation where we have

00:13:54.560 to have and have people push back on the idea of protecting their own family, a family man himself,

00:14:00.480 Sean Fraser. And I doubt that if someone was breaking into his home, he would be like, come on

00:14:06.420 in, let's have a cup of tea. Here's all my jewels or here's all my assets. Exactly. And the idea is it

00:14:12.080 is a last resort, right? Like you're not out there swinging your gun around saying, come on in. Right.

00:14:17.280 It's like, if you're in a horrible situation, which I pray that none of us find ourselves in,

00:14:22.220 but if something horrible like that were to happen, you know, it's, it's part of it is having

00:14:26.500 the assurance of mind that, you know, I, I know how to protect myself and my family. Um, but also

00:14:31.400 just given the news and given what's happened in our country and in our cities over the last number

00:14:35.860 of years, um, being secure in the fact that, you know, that you're not going to go to jail,

00:14:40.380 um, if some thug breaks into your house and you have to stop him using force before he gets to your

00:14:44.900 children, heaven forbid. Um, okay. I want to move on and talk a little bit about what's happening in Alberta

00:14:49.040 with the schools and the book bans. So a little bit of background on this earlier this year,

00:14:53.940 the UCP government and premier Daniel Smith announced a ministerial order effective October

00:14:59.420 1st, 2025, that all K to 12 school libraries must remove books with illicit sexual content.

00:15:06.800 And then there would be further restrictions coming in, in January, 2026. And so there's been a lot of

00:15:12.260 pushback. I know Nahid Nenshi, the leader of the NDP party really opposes this and they sort of tried

00:15:16.680 to politicize it, making it seem like, oh, these conservatives, they're bigots. They're trying

00:15:20.160 to ban books. Um, so Danielle Smith came with receipts. She showed up at a press conference

00:15:25.080 on Friday, um, showing the press and journalists exactly what she's talking about when she says

00:15:32.100 which books need to be removed from kindergarten classrooms and K to 12 schools. So let's play

00:15:38.160 this clip of Daniel Smith on Friday. Look, I, I think you're, I'm going to have to show the, uh,

00:15:44.640 the screen here because people aren't kind of getting what it is we're trying to do here.

00:15:50.160 We are trying to take graphic pornographic images out of elementary schools so that kids are not exposed

00:15:57.440 to age and appropriate material. So I want, I'm going to leave it on for 15 seconds. I'm warning you

00:16:02.640 that the content may be disturbing and it's not appropriate for young users. Viewer discretion

00:16:08.640 is advised. I know that the cameras probably can't print it on the, on the evening news tonight

00:16:14.320 without probably facing some kind of broadcast standards council complaint. And I know that I

00:16:19.100 would get delisted from Facebook for showing these kinds of images on Facebook because they're

00:16:23.580 pornographic. That is what we are trying to address. There's another one here. Um, please take a look

00:16:29.040 at it so that and might invite all of the school trustees to take a look at it too. We have tried

00:16:34.640 to be as, uh, as polite about this so that people understand what it is. Here's another one. So you can

00:16:40.960 have another look at the kind of material that we think should not be exposed to young children,

00:16:47.760 aged seven years old. And I think we've got one more that we would like to show you as well.

00:16:51.600 Here is another example. So I, I don't know how much more clear we could be that what we are aiming to

00:16:58.800 this all began because these were the images that parents were showing us that were accessible to

00:17:05.120 children in elementary school libraries. So it's just absolutely vile that seven-year-olds would have

00:17:11.680 to see. I mean, we blurted out folks don't want to expose you to pornographic images, but we're talking

00:17:15.840 about like gay sex acts, um, written out in children's novels and, uh, you know, cartoon characters

00:17:21.840 acting out like sexual acts and gay sex acts for small children. It's just, it's just so perverse.

00:17:27.840 Shouldn't be controversial at all. And so, uh, what, what ended up happening? Well, this is sort of

00:17:32.240 silly. So the Edmonton school board took Danielle Smith's edict saying, we're going to remove the

00:17:37.520 pornographic sexual content from public schools and Catholic schools. And then they decided that

00:17:43.920 they were going to remove more than 200 books from their library, including some very excellent books.

00:17:50.000 Actually, I looked at the list here of some of the ones, and these are all books that I read in high

00:17:54.080 school and university that I think everyone should read. So we're talking about Brave New World, um,

00:17:58.240 from Huxley, 1984, George Orwell, The Great Gatsby, Scott Fitzgerald, Alice Shrug, one of the best

00:18:04.080 books that I read growing up, um, as well as The Had Man's Tale, you know, a book from Maya Angelou. So,

00:18:10.080 like, really just important mainstream books. It seems like the Edmonton Public Library was trying to,

00:18:15.760 I don't know, combat Premier Danielle Smith. Maybe you can give us, uh, some further insight into,

00:18:20.560 uh, what exactly is going on here, Erica? Well, I would love to say that I understand the rationale

00:18:27.440 of pulling all of these books off, you know, in, in resort, but the only image that comes to mind is

00:18:34.320 like a toddler that gets their toy taken away and then says, oh, okay, then I'm taking all of the toys

00:18:39.600 and runs out of the room. Like, that's literally how I feel that Edmonton is handling this. I mean,

00:18:46.320 to be fair, again, like coming back, I don't want to sound like a pessimist, um, when I'm on,

00:18:52.480 consistently on the show, but, um, it is, it's like, why is that the action that's taken? Um,

00:19:00.560 I have watched the Minister of Education roll all of this out over the last few months. It shouldn't

00:19:06.960 be surprising of pornography, sexually explicit, like the fact that a minister has to stand there

00:19:13.200 and say within the education system for our primary education levels, we have found that

00:19:21.040 these are in the libraries and that kids can go and access them. And, you know, the fact that we're

00:19:27.520 even there is, is one thing. Um, I've heard from a lot of folks across all party lines of like,

00:19:34.320 I didn't know this was in the classrooms. I'm glad the government's doing something about them.

00:19:38.000 I don't think it became a partisan issue. And now we have, you know, Edmonton taking a very, um,

00:19:47.520 political stance on this. And I live in Edmonton. Uh, it's quite disappointing. We had

00:19:53.280 my stepchildren going back to school. Now, thankfully they're in 12 and 14 and they're not

00:19:58.000 maybe, um, exposed to, uh, this same situation, but we had a conversation with them and,

00:20:05.440 you know, the fact that they would even see this is, is disturbing as a parent.

00:20:11.680 It's so disturbing. I mean, you have to really protect your children and almost have like

00:20:16.080 pre-conversations with them about what they're going to encounter at school because it's so woke

00:20:20.800 and so politicized. And in this case, so sexualized, I mean, it's just silly because, uh, Edmonton Public

00:20:27.520 Library, I mean, the way that this was covered here's global news, uh, Edmonton Public School Board is

00:20:31.680 yanking more than 200 books from its library shelves this year to comply with provincial

00:20:35.680 directive on banning books containing inappropriate sexual content. So even the way it's framed,

00:20:39.680 it's like, this is to comply with the USB government. And, and again, using that term

00:20:44.800 banning books, um, really they're just removing books that are not appropriate. Here is Danielle

00:20:50.560 Smith replying and slamming the school board. Um, just saying that they're doing a little bit of

00:20:56.240 vicious compliance here trying to, I guess, embarrass Danielle Smith, uh, but she flips it around

00:21:01.840 and calls them out rightfully. Let's play that clip. We asked school boards to use their discretion

00:21:08.080 to identify books that might not be age appropriate for elementary school children. And then to, um, and

00:21:15.600 Edmonton Public is clearly doing a little vicious compliance over what the direction is. And so if they

00:21:21.840 need us to hold their hand through the process to identify what kind of materials are appropriate

00:21:28.080 for senior high school students, what kind of materials are appropriate for junior high school

00:21:33.840 students, and what kind of materials are appropriate for elementary school students, we will more than

00:21:39.440 happily work with them to work through their list one by one. So we can be super clear about what it is

00:21:46.320 we're trying to do. So Erica, you know, the premier quite well, she seems quite annoyed, um, by this

00:21:52.160 entire exercise. I mean, I think it's good for them politically. Um, but what did you think of her

00:21:56.240 response there? I mean, wouldn't you be annoyed when you're bringing something forward and someone takes

00:22:01.360 it so extreme and politicizes it and it's about children? Um, I completely understand now, you know,

00:22:09.840 I've sat in those rooms briefing her. Maybe that's not the tone you want to come across, but in fairness,

00:22:15.280 I actually think that's probably the tone of a lot of parents hearing this. Like to me,

00:22:20.080 if the Edmonton public school was not politicizing, this wasn't taking a woke agenda on this,

00:22:27.360 wouldn't their list match every other school district in Alberta? And we haven't seen that.

00:22:34.880 So why is Edmonton the only one with this robust list? To me, that screams and points to the fact that

00:22:43.120 it's not meeting those thresholds of the government, but instead a political play, um,

00:22:48.720 that we're seeing. I mean, this is amidst the ATA that's based in Edmonton, um, fighting the

00:22:54.640 government, walking away from the mediation table, potential teachers strike. Like to me, this is a very,

00:23:01.920 very hyper-political move, um, by the Edmonton public school board. And to say that we have kids

00:23:09.520 in the, in the Edmonton public, um, I will say it was a quite disappointed.

00:23:15.200 Well, 100%. And again, the kids are the ones that get let down because they don't get to have access

00:23:21.920 to these great books that every young person should read. And so I will give, I will give credit.

00:23:28.400 We have one daughter that was in Edmonton Catholic last year. And one of the teachers actually wrote

00:23:33.360 home saying some of the kids are bringing some of their novels to school from their home for our

00:23:38.480 reading period. And they actually, you know, don't meet that threshold. Uh, we encourage if, if you

00:23:44.640 want to have your children read those books at home, that's fine, but they don't comply with what

00:23:48.880 is, um, part of our curriculum or what is within the, um, requirements or age appropriate books.

00:23:55.440 And so I will say that, that it's not a blanket statement on all education in Edmonton or Elbert.

00:24:02.240 I think these are just, these are bad actors playing political. And so we, I really appreciated

00:24:06.960 that the teacher had, had shared that with us and just requested that's your choice as parents,

00:24:12.480 but in the classroom, that's not appropriate. Well, it's good to hear that there are still some good

00:24:16.800 teachers out there, even, even in Edmonton. Uh, Erica, I want to talk to you a little bit about

00:24:21.040 the Canadian economy, because there was a report that came out last week that shows that, uh, you

00:24:26.720 know, the, the, the economy is barely chugging along and the private sector is in deep decline.

00:24:32.560 So I want to share this stats can, uh, table. First of all, you can see the, this is 2025 so far. Um,

00:24:40.240 you can see that the overall economy, uh, not good, but the blue line there is the public sector.

00:24:46.240 We have not seen growth in the public sector at all since October, 2024. And the only reason that

00:24:51.440 we're not in a full blown recession is because of the growth of government spending basically,

00:24:56.160 um, which is not a good way, uh, not a good indicator, uh, for the economy. Um, I'm wondering,

00:25:03.040 like, what, what is your, what is your view? I, I know that the media will sort of blame this

00:25:07.280 on trade and, and Trump, but I think that there's something deeper, um, happening here. You can see it with

00:25:12.400 the, uh, loss of, uh, investment into our economy and billions of dollars are being pulled, uh, from

00:25:19.120 the bond markets. Like it's, it's not, not a rosy picture. It's a pretty concerning, uh, for the

00:25:23.760 future. What do you think? Yeah. And I think that's where, you know, outlets like yours are

00:25:29.600 so refreshing where they're actually driving the facts and driving the actual current situation.

00:25:34.400 Cause if we go back six years ago, like we were already on a decline, we were already, um,

00:25:41.440 accumulating massive debt to your point, pushing money into public sector, thinking that that's

00:25:47.840 job creation when ultimately it's just, um, hurting taxpayers in the long run. And so this is a,

00:25:54.880 this is a decline we've seen. I think the reason why we're, it's more top of mind is because of the

00:26:00.720 tariffs that exposed how weak our economy actually is and has become in the last 10 years. It's

00:26:07.600 limited interprovincial trade. It's limited, um, our self-reliance. It's limited the ability for us

00:26:14.080 to get our resources to market and be an international player. Instead we crippled under, you know, the,

00:26:22.640 the U S relying solely on them. And under a Biden administration, you have an individual that's

00:26:29.120 putting his own country first, like we should. And now we're in a situation where I think it is

00:26:34.480 more top of mind to folks of how weak our economy was, but this isn't something from yesterday and

00:26:40.400 it's not something that's changing tomorrow. This has been almost a decade in working to get our

00:26:45.280 economy to be such a weak player in the even G seven. And so I don't, I'm not surprised. I think

00:26:53.280 there's lots of people that thought that Mark Carney's resume, even though if you would have checked his

00:26:58.480 references, they were probably not that great, but his resume was going to put us in a very

00:27:04.240 positive economic position. I mean, he introduces an act that I will say I initially support that's

00:27:11.360 happy to see the building Canada act, but the devil's in the details. And I think that's really

00:27:15.840 going to limit what he can actually get for a return on investment on that piece of policy.

00:27:21.520 Well, at the end of the day, if you're unwilling to develop your natural resources,

00:27:24.320 if you're ashamed of your natural resources, if you don't believe in pipelines and getting our

00:27:27.760 resources to market, you know, it doesn't matter how many trade deals you sign or, you know, how,

00:27:33.840 how well you do on the international stage. If you don't believe in your own economy,

00:27:38.800 it's not going to go anywhere. I want to read a little bit from the CBC news article on this,

00:27:42.080 because I have to chuckle with the way that they frame it. So the headline says,

00:27:44.880 Canadian economy shrinks 1.6% in second quarter, as you have US tariffs squeeze exports. So they're

00:27:50.560 blaming it all on Trump and the tariffs. And then the byline sub subhead here says,

00:27:56.480 contraction was much larger than expected, but higher spending softened the blow, right? So

00:28:01.760 it's like congratulating the Canadian economy basically just for printing money and borrowing,

00:28:07.600 because it would have been much, much worse if it weren't for government spending. It says here that

00:28:12.720 the latest figures show the Canadian economy grew an annual rate of 0.4% in the first six months of the

00:28:17.520 year. The second quarter contraction was the first quarterly slowdown in seven quarters. So,

00:28:22.720 I mean, we're just barely avoiding a recession at this point. It seems to me that the only reason

00:28:26.560 that we're not in a full blown recession again is because of our massive government spending. Maybe

00:28:31.120 that's why Carney blew out the budget so much, you know, everyone expected him to reign spending in,

00:28:35.600 but instead he blew it out just like Trudeau did. What do you think?

00:28:38.000 Well, he blew it out farther than Trudeau. And I mean, if you're a news outlet that actually exists

00:28:43.040 because of public sector investment by the government, of course, you're going to spin it

00:28:47.920 that way. And I think that's a disservice to Canadians on what the actual facts are. Like I said,

00:28:52.560 this decline is coming because, one, we were exposed. Two, I think that this was just inevitable

00:29:00.240 based on the ridiculous spending and how we don't have stronger interprovincial trade,

00:29:08.880 interprovincial deals and are actually looking at where do we create revenue. Justin Trudeau was

00:29:16.640 horrible for it, of hurting the West and limiting thinking solar is going to be the only thing that

00:29:23.120 gets us out of debt and deficit. And Mark Carney, you know, is very much the same. It's the same people

00:29:30.880 at the table. And so unfortunately, I think things may get worse before they get better

00:29:37.200 because we don't have a government that puts money back in the pockets of Canadians,

00:29:42.240 nor do they let industry and business create the revenue we very much need.

00:29:48.000 Well, that's so important, right? It's like maybe we would have a stronger economy if we didn't have

00:29:51.680 the government strangling every aspect of it and holding it back, right? It's not just the pipelines,

00:29:57.040 this massive regulation, the red tape that are required to do business in this country. All right,

00:30:02.240 that's Erica Brutz of Macme College, former principal secretary to Danielle Smith and the

00:30:06.400 founding president of the United Conservative Party. Erica, thank you so much for joining the show today.

00:30:10.480 Thank you for having me. All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today. We'll

00:30:13.280 be back again tomorrow with all the news. I'm Candice Malcolm. This is Candice Malcolm Show.

00:30:15.760 Thank you and God bless.

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