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00:00:00.000 Pierre Polyev derangement syndrome has begun. It's fake news Friday. I'm Candice Malcolm,

00:00:07.480 and this is a very special live edition of the Candice Malcolm show.

00:00:11.300 hi everyone thank you so much for tuning into a live edition of fake news friday i'm joined by

00:00:31.220 my producer and true north journalist harrison faulkner harrison how are you doing this friday

00:00:35.220 pretty good candace i'm just getting over a bit of a sickness so i hope my voice isn't too bad but

00:00:39.960 after watching all the stories come through this week, the anticipation of the show has been

00:00:44.420 building. So I'm looking forward to getting into it. Well, it was really quite the news week and

00:00:48.860 there's so much going on in the country. This is just a total aside. I have a Google Home and

00:00:53.860 usually in the morning I'll say, hey, Google, what's the news? And it'll first play me CBC

00:00:57.800 and then CTV. And it's just like unbelievable how out of touch the CBC is in the stories that they

00:01:05.340 select, the things that they choose to show me, like, like the top story was some monkey virus

00:01:10.120 is apparently causing like all this fear and consternation. It's like they're drumming up the

00:01:14.340 fear machine over another mysterious illness that's coming out. And then it goes right to

00:01:20.560 more Ukraine, more Russia stuff, like nothing involving, you know, inflation, the rising cost

00:01:25.520 of living, nothing really covering the political turmoil in Alberta that's going on, nothing on,

00:01:31.140 you know, the big leadership race in the country. It was like, I couldn't, I couldn't believe how

00:01:34.760 out of touch the stories that they chose were with the things that we talk about here at True

00:01:39.700 North. It's really like two totally different countries. We're showing a totally different

00:01:43.960 side of Canada that the CBC doesn't even really recognize or acknowledge. It's super interesting

00:01:50.740 and that's why it's so much fun doing what we do, Harrison. And I think Fake News Friday

00:01:55.520 is everybody's favorite show on the Candace Malcolm show because, you know, it gives us

00:02:00.160 an opportunity to draw that distinction, talk about what the legacy media is talking about,

00:02:04.280 and just how sort of out of step it is with the way that we see it, with our coverage,

00:02:09.900 with our audience. And I think really the defining news story this week was just that this

00:02:16.280 anti-Pierre Poliev sentiment in the media is just out of control. They're so deranged already. Now,

00:02:24.180 this term derangement syndrome, I know it was used against George W. Bush down in the U.S.

00:02:28.780 It was used as the Harper derangement syndrome. And it really just describes a media that is is just so off put and so filled with hatred about a conservative politician that they can't be objective in any way, shape or form.

00:02:43.240 like the way that they view it the lens that they have is just so void of reality and and and we'll

00:02:49.000 show you a bunch of examples of that here on the show today but but really you know their hatred

00:02:54.280 of conservatives just clouds their vision so much that they can't provide a neutral analysis any

00:02:59.800 kind of uh fact-based analysis you just can't you can't get that from the mainstream media because

00:03:05.000 because they just hate conservatives so much and and it comes out so i'm going to start by showing

00:03:10.040 this Globe and Mail article written by Gary Mason. And look, this is an opinion piece,

00:03:14.420 and he's entitled to his opinion. He's a national affairs columnist over there. He's been doing it

00:03:18.840 for a long time. And he can have opinions about politicians as part of his job as part of why the

00:03:24.220 Globe and Mail pays him. But the problem is, you know, even a opinion columnist, and I was an

00:03:29.300 opinion columnist over at the Toronto Sun for almost a decade, you know, your pieces still

00:03:33.720 have to be based in fact, you have to be able to articulate your logic and explain why you got

00:03:39.980 to the position you did. You can't just say, you can't just lie. Just because you're an opinion

00:03:43.900 columnist, you can't just put out falsehoods. You know, you still have to back it up. It's still

00:03:47.320 journalism. You still have to back it up with facts and the truth. And I think this piece is

00:03:52.140 pretty egregious and it's just blatant anti-Pierre Polly of hatred. So I'll read a little bit from

00:03:58.320 the article here, Harrison, and I'll get your reaction. So he starts off by saying the Ottawa

00:04:03.520 MP didn't organize the protest in Peterborough, but his campaign to become Tory leader has

00:04:09.200 legitimized the anger that was on display there. Now, of course, we're talking about this incident

00:04:12.900 that happened last week where Jagmeet Singh, the NDP leader, showed up in Peterborough. And there

00:04:17.180 was like three or four pretty aggressive hecklers. And look, no one condones the treatment of Jagmeet

00:04:23.300 Singh. I think that, you know, people with that kind of anger towards a politician, it's unjustified,

00:04:29.200 it's unbecoming for us as Canadians. However, it was a very, very small group of people. Politicians

00:04:34.400 probably faces stuff all the time. It sort of reflects the anger and the rhetoric that we see

00:04:39.340 online. And it's just sort of spilling over into in person. But the media made such hay about this

00:04:45.040 and tried to make it into this, like, you know, this idea that it was really about Jagmeet Singh's

00:04:49.220 race and his ethnicity. And it wasn't really about his policies and his politics. Look,

00:04:54.380 his politics. Look, I think that people are angry at Jagmeet Singh because he enables Justin Trudeau

00:05:00.500 and they don't feel accountability. They feel like their country is being taken away. They feel

00:05:04.220 like, you know, we elected Justin Trudeau as a minority leader, and now all of a sudden he's

00:05:08.400 been given the supermajority because of the NDP. So there's, I think, legitimate anger. And obviously,

00:05:14.560 no, you shouldn't let that spill out in terms of, like, harassing someone and yelling at them and

00:05:19.500 screaming at them. But there's underlying issues there. And so the media just gloss over all of

00:05:24.340 that, of course, and just turn it into, like, oh, Jagmeet Singh, he's the victim, and how dare

00:05:28.580 these Canadians do that, kind of ignoring all of the anger that was legitimate. Anyway, that's

00:05:34.020 an aside, I'll continue reading from Gary Mason's piece. He says, in many ways, it's also his anger,

00:05:40.280 talking about Pierre Polyev, and it reflects the contempt he holds for the prime minister.

00:05:44.200 He has given these people reason to believe Mr. Trudeau is one of the most despicable people in

00:05:50.000 the country. So somehow, you know, the anger towards Jagmeet Singh and the belief that Justin

00:05:55.420 Trudeau is the most despicable person in the country, it's all Pierre's fault. Like, forget

00:05:58.980 about Justin Trudeau's record over the last seven years in office. Forget about all the things he's

00:06:03.780 done. Forget about his horrendous treatment of the unvaccinated and his horrendous treatment

00:06:07.920 of the truckers and his refusal to even acknowledge them as human beings.

00:06:12.380 You know, nothing is Justin Trudeau's fault. It's all Pierre Polyev's fault somehow. I mean,

00:06:18.760 this is just so outrageous. I'll continue. Just to quote Gary Mason here, he says about Pierre,

00:06:25.840 he's done this by running the most dishonest and contemptible political campaigns ever seen

00:06:33.040 in Canada. Every day, he seems to find a new low, accusing the prime minister of sinister things

00:06:39.480 that the so-called freedom convoy, in scare quotes, folks lap up like mindless fools.

00:06:46.280 So what is his evidence here, Harrison, for calling Pierre Polyev the most dishonest

00:06:51.880 and contemptible political campaigns ever seen in Canada, really? That is a shocking accusation.

00:06:59.620 And, you know, I looked through the piece, trying to find facts to justify this and to back this up.

00:07:05.500 It seems to me not fact-based whatsoever, just purely rage, purely, you know, anti-conservative bigotry on full display.

00:07:14.520 I hate Pierre Polyev. I hate him so much. I don't even have to explain why I hate him, but he is so dishonest and so contemptible.

00:07:21.600 And the Globe and Mail just turns around and publishes it up. No big deal. That's the answer of conservatives over there.

00:07:27.840 No, and here's the thing. Gary Mason's language here. One of the most dishonest, contemptible

00:07:35.000 political campaigns ever seen in Canada. Well, Gary, I can think of a campaign that was run

00:07:40.580 last year by our prime minister that might fit that bill more accurately than Pierre Polyev's

00:07:45.440 campaign. One that I believe is barely even a quarter complete, Candace. We're a few months

00:07:51.840 into this. Um, and already it's, it's the most contemptible campaign apparently. And this is

00:07:57.880 the thing, this is the thing that really gets, really gets under, under my skin about this is

00:08:02.000 that he says one of, one of the reasons why Pierre's campaign, Pierre Polyev's campaign is,

00:08:07.540 is apparently one of the most contemptible, uh, he's ever seen is because he accused Trudeau of

00:08:14.280 serve, of basically running the survey, running a surveillance state and spying on Canadians.

00:08:19.220 Well, it turns out, Candace, that actually the feds did do that during the pandemic.

00:08:25.780 They did track cell phone data.

00:08:27.460 They did figure out when you were going to the pharmacy and where you were going, and

00:08:32.860 they admitted to it.

00:08:34.640 So again, it's by calling out the prime minister for the problems that the country is currently

00:08:42.280 facing, and by being one of the only candidates, in my opinion, that articulates the issues

00:08:47.080 Canadians are facing. Apparently, that, according to the Globe and Mail, is contemptible and

00:08:52.240 dishonest. But when you run a political campaign intentionally trying to wedge Canadians, wedge

00:08:58.020 the unvaccinated out of the society and pin the blame of COVID on the unvaccinated, as Justin

00:09:05.920 Trudeau did during the federal election, no, of course, that doesn't get any mention. It's only

00:09:11.660 when candidates who actually articulate the feelings of canadians and do so in a way that

00:09:18.060 grabs attention it's only then that it becomes contemptible um it really it's it's a classic

00:09:23.180 it's a classic example of an opinion piece that lacks any grounding in reality candace

00:09:28.380 well yeah i mean just the like matter of fact listening this is the most dishonest

00:09:33.020 contemptible campaign ever seen can i mean you raise a great point what about what justin trudeau

00:09:36.860 did to the unvaccinated he went on tv in quebec and said these people we shouldn't tolerate them

00:09:42.380 they're racist and xenophobic they don't believe in science we have to ask ourselves should we

00:09:45.900 tolerate them like what what do you mean should we tolerate them like you you live in a society with

00:09:50.300 other people that you don't agree with yes you tolerate them what's the alternative like expelling

00:09:54.220 them or worse i mean and and you could even go back harrison to the 2019 election where the

00:09:59.900 liberals just essentially said that andrew shear was a white nationalist without any

00:10:03.820 basis in reality without any facts that was that was their line of attack against that he was a

00:10:09.480 white nationalist because uh he once went to a park one someday and stood by someone who said

00:10:14.840 something else and then that person three years later did this like that like keep trying to keep

00:10:19.800 up with the logic of of of the rationale of the arguments from the liberal party um you know that

00:10:25.140 you don't have the global mail shining a light on that they just kind of take his fact and say oh

00:10:29.560 yeah, this guy, Winston, nods at white nationalists. And we'll see in this show that now they're

00:10:35.680 pulling out that exact same line of attack again against Pierre Polyev. So, you know, it's not just

00:10:41.080 Gary Mason over in the Globe and Mail that's doing this. We saw this interesting piece over at CTV

00:10:47.320 News. So we all saw that Pierre Polyev was on with Jordan Peterson, and they did an interesting

00:10:54.720 an hour-and-a-half discussion on Peterson's podcast, which has 5 million subscribers,

00:11:00.120 while CTV parsed through that podcast and tried to find something controversial. This is the best

00:11:07.200 they could come up with. So the headline says, Polyev faces backlash for comments on Jordan

00:11:12.520 Peterson's podcast. I just love the way that they describe it. So here's reading from the piece. He

00:11:17.800 says, this is Glenn McGregor writing. He says, some are calling attention to a comment conservative

00:11:24.100 leadership candidate Pierre Polyev made while appearing as a guest on the controversial

00:11:28.520 psychologist Jordan Peterson's podcast. I love that phrase of speech there, the controversial

00:11:35.800 psychologist. How about like the incredibly influential and popular, you know, one of the

00:11:40.740 best-selling Canadian authors in history, outside of the entertainment sphere, probably the most

00:11:46.140 famous Canadian and the most influential living public intellectual. But instead, no, they call

00:11:51.860 him controversial because they don't like what he has to say uh regardless so so the controversy

00:11:57.280 is that pierre supposedly was using a dog whistle i think we have a clip of this so we will play

00:12:03.580 the um allegedly controversial clip and and and that he's supposedly receiving backlash for here's

00:12:10.360 that clip makes you credible on the hope front do you think in terms of your what you're offering

00:12:18.760 and who you are because i speak clear plain language that makes sense to people so you know

00:12:31.000 i'm i'm a believer in using simple um anglo-saxon words that strike right at the

00:12:43.960 the meaning uh that i'm trying to

00:12:47.520 okay harrison so that that's supposedly the source of all kinds of controversy pierre polyev

00:12:55.560 saying that he speaks in plain language and that he's a believer in using simple anglo-saxon words

00:13:01.940 anglo-saxon is a synonymous with old english like it's it just means english basically in

00:13:08.580 in the literature sense um but but him him saying those words apparently just caused a huge backlash

00:13:15.140 so uh what why don't you walk us through the rest of the story harrison well i mean of course

00:13:21.780 when when you've got the entire legacy media uh paying attention to any potential thing that they

00:13:27.620 can misconstrue as whatever you want to call it a dog whistle or you want to call it uh whatever

00:13:33.220 else you want to call it, racism or whatever. They're going to find anything they can and try

00:13:39.080 and make it out to be that way. So of course, when Polyev said this, they immediately jumped on

00:13:45.040 the fact that, oh, this is a word that is used also along with the far right. So in the CTV

00:13:53.420 article, there's a part here where they talk about the Republicans that have used it and how

00:14:02.960 it's uh it's nativist dog whistling and um and then of course of course any any uh hit piece

00:14:11.500 uh in relation to the freedom convoy wouldn't be complete without a connection to pat king

00:14:16.920 candace who i know you've talked about on the show before uh but of course they tie that into

00:14:22.140 pierre's comments by somehow saying that using the words anglo-saxon while describing clearly

00:14:29.080 the fact that he is talking about using plain English and speaking directly to the people

00:14:34.220 instead of using academic language or whatever kind of language, the way that other politicians

00:14:40.460 speak, they jump on that and they try and make it seem as though by Poliev saying he

00:14:48.140 uses Anglo-Saxon plain language, which I think as we talked about before the show, Candace,

00:14:53.180 was perhaps a way for him to try and appeal to Jordan Peterson, um, and, and speak in an academic

00:14:59.300 sense. Um, of course it was, it immediately created this storm because everyone's looking

00:15:04.560 for anything they can jump on. So another, just a classic CTV, uh, hit piece. This is also from

00:15:10.460 Glenn McGregor, uh, who played quite a, played quite a role during the Freedom Convoy, uh, trying

00:15:17.200 to demonize and slander the people attending that protest if uh if some of our viewers remember

00:15:24.480 well yeah they went out and they interviewed the you know some a founder of a group called

00:15:30.160 canadians against canadians united against hate uh who basically comes out and says that uh for

00:15:35.920 for far-right people uh anglo-saxon is is a is a dog whistle uh and it really just means a way

00:15:44.240 way to set apart white Canadians from racialized society. Like, I mean, it's got all the woke

00:15:50.080 nonsense built right into this piece. But I have three points from this. The first one is I watched

00:15:56.040 the podcast, and I've interviewed Pierre myself. And I think that Pierre, throughout the course

00:16:02.820 of the podcast, what you just said, he was trying to sort of impress Dr. Peterson and show his own

00:16:10.700 intellectual depth he went much deeper in terms of like quoting poets and talking about philosophy

00:16:17.420 um than he wouldn't normally ever do i mean and that's the point right it's an hour and a half

00:16:22.060 uh open open dialogue and so i think that there were several times throughout the podcast where

00:16:27.100 pierre did this where he would sort of try to flex his intellectual capacity and and try to like

00:16:33.420 you know be on the same level as dr peterson dr peterson clearly has a very deep intellect and so

00:16:39.340 at that point when he said i use anglo i i um i'm a believer in simple anglo effects to me that was

00:16:45.420 him trying to like show how smart he was by by showing his depth of knowledge about the english

00:16:50.780 language i i don't think that it was a nod to racism right i don't i just can't imagine that

00:16:56.380 was going what was going through pierre's mind when he said that um the second problem is when

00:17:01.100 journalists try to interpret what was going into someone's mind and saying that it was a racist

00:17:06.540 intent like like deciding that in pierre's mind when he said that word that he was trying to

00:17:13.260 signal something racist and this is a whole problem with the idea of a dog whistle right

00:17:17.660 it's like we used to hold people accountable for things that they said if someone said something

00:17:22.940 racist you could hold them accountable for the racist thing that they said um the reality is

00:17:28.140 that there isn't a lot of racism in political discourse in canada there's actually probably

00:17:32.460 none. And so journalists have to go ahead and invent a racist discourse. And they do that

00:17:38.840 through the dog whistle. So the dog whistle is supposedly blaming someone or holding someone

00:17:43.860 accountable for something that they did not say, but reading in meaning of what they could have

00:17:48.440 meant by that. And this is just such a disingenuous line of attack. Like anytime I hear the left

00:17:53.880 saying dog whistle, dog whistle, dog whistle, it's like, you're basically saying that you don't have

00:17:58.180 anything. You don't have anything that the person that you're trying to attack didn't say anything

00:18:02.440 wrong. But if you put on your detective hat, and you try to read their mind, you can you can draw

00:18:09.260 layers into what they said. And what they really meant was this. And it's like, you know, you know,

00:18:14.520 in politics, you say what you really mean, that that that's what Pierre is talking about. We say

00:18:19.020 what we mean, we don't say, you know, we don't try to use flowery language to try to confuse the

00:18:25.180 issue. We just we speak in simple language, plain language. And again, this is this is the media

00:18:29.900 making things up, inventing stories. Every time you hear the term dog whistle, you basically just

00:18:35.980 stop reading the article or turn off the television or turn off the radio. Because basically what the

00:18:40.460 critics are saying is that you didn't say anything bad, but I'm going to interpret it to mean

00:18:45.920 something bad. And it's just total nonsense in terms of persuasiveness. I think this is one of

00:18:50.400 those idiotic stories, Harrison, that is just going to fade away. And then I said three points.

00:18:56.840 The third point is that this is a kind of common sentiment among conservatives is that, you know, in political language, there are a lot of people who try to complicate the issue.

00:19:08.480 But if you want to be effective at communicating, you try to simplify it and you try to make it resonate to as many people as humanly possible.

00:19:16.440 And this is something that conservatives teach each other and they learn.

00:19:19.320 Like for me personally, I had more of an academic background.

00:19:21.580 I used to work in think tanks and then I started writing for the newspaper.

00:19:24.200 and I had to learn to write in a totally different way like it's not academic

00:19:28.440 writing anymore it's writing that is clear concise use short words and and

00:19:33.020 you realize that writing for me writing for an audience like the Toronto Sun

00:19:35.780 it's an amazing opportunity because you can reach so many people and when you

00:19:39.760 write an academic coded language you can really only communicate to other

00:19:43.280 academics and other people don't understand it or they don't care which

00:19:45.920 is why nobody reads white papers and nobody reads academic paper whereas you

00:19:49.680 know when you when you talk about like popular sites where a lot of you know

00:19:54.200 people read it. It's like you want to make it as simple as possible. And so the point that Pierre

00:19:58.100 was making is a really common sentiment in terms of writers, conservative writers specifically,

00:20:05.380 Anglican politicians, and Garnet Janis, who's an MP out in Edmonton, he makes this point. He says

00:20:10.120 on Twitter, critics of Pierre Polyev are really reaching here. English derives predominantly of

00:20:15.320 a combination of Anglo-Saxon, in other words, Old English, and Latin words. Anglo-Saxon words tend

00:20:20.820 be shorter and sharper than latin words many writers and speakers know that when considering

00:20:26.740 word choice and it's absolutely true never we have this rule at true north with writing

00:20:31.700 never use a long word when a short word will do and that's that's that's the idea it's like don't

00:20:37.060 try to complicate things right instead of saying we're going to terminate your contract you say

00:20:41.780 you're fired right it's like don't don't complicate it don't use long words when you can use short

00:20:46.340 words. Garnett goes on to say, it's hard to believe that people who write for a living

00:20:51.320 wouldn't know this. And yet Glenn McGregor, Alexandra May, who wrote this article for CTV

00:20:56.200 makes no mention of what Pierre was clearly talking about when he used the term Anglo-Saxon

00:21:00.980 words, right? Like they didn't go to the basic obvious thing that he was talking about. Instead,

00:21:06.260 they tried to complicate it and do this whole dog whistle thing by interpreting in something that

00:21:10.560 he didn't say and he didn't actually mean. This is fake news. This is absolutely, completely

00:21:16.720 nonsense. Every single part of it is just absurd. Yeah. And one thing as well that I think this is

00:21:22.780 perhaps playing into, for Pierre Polyev to go on the Jordan Peterson podcast, to spend an hour and

00:21:29.100 a half chatting with him, we had an open, long-form conversation. I think a lot of conservatives

00:21:35.080 appreciated that conversation and enjoyed listening to that because it's refreshing.

00:21:39.020 Now, I also think that that is a threat to the legacy media, people sidestepping the legacy media and going straight to appealing straight to conservatives in these long form conversations.

00:21:50.820 I think that part of this is to try and discourage other candidates and other conservatives from going on to Jordan Peterson's podcast, from going on to long form podcasts and having a wide ranging conversation because they want to try and they want to try and put the fear into these conservatives that if you say anything in this hour and a half that could be construed as something that we're going to determine for you as a dog whistle, then it's going to be very difficult for you to try and get out of it.

00:22:20.040 I mean, I think more conservatives should be moving toward these long-form conversations and sidestepping to legacy media and moving past their kind of soundbite, clickbait news.

00:22:32.700 And so I think there's also something to be said about that.

00:22:37.000 You're right. Yeah, I think that part of this is sort of, you know, a warning from journalists.

00:22:41.600 Like, this is what we're going to cover. This is what we're going to obsess over.

00:22:43.980 we're going to make this all about how the conservatives are actually secret white

00:22:49.860 nationalists. And if you go over to the independent media, and I think Jordan Peterson

00:22:54.760 is firmly in that category, we're going to do our best to tear you down. And I want to transition

00:23:04.460 from here, Harrison, to say that it isn't just CTV and journalists like Glenn McGregor who are

00:23:11.260 doing this nonsense. Unfortunately, it also comes from within the conservative party. So this week,

00:23:17.140 we also saw Patrick Brown unleash a campaign against Polyev, basically using the same line

00:23:22.900 of attack, but coming from a different angle, saying that Polyev supports a conspiracy theorist

00:23:28.620 called Pat King and the supposed white replacement theory. So here's a tweet from Patrick Brown

00:23:33.920 saying that just that, let me read it. He says, here is Pat King, a leader of the convoy Pierre

00:23:38.960 Polyev supported spreading the dangerous white supremacist white replacement conspiracy theory,

00:23:43.860 which was reported to have been in the Buffalo Shooters Manifesto. I condemn this hate

00:23:48.400 and call on Pierre to do the same. And then you pointed this out to me, Harrison, maybe you can

00:23:52.880 walk us through what this tweet, if we can just go back to that tweet for a second, what that was.

00:24:00.420 Uh, yeah. So what you're seeing here is a video posted in 2019 by an account called

00:24:08.140 Vests Canada. Now those three arrows pointing down, that's sort of the symbol of the anti-fascist

00:24:15.260 radical left. And I just went on to that account's Twitter page and they openly put out, they put in

00:24:23.540 their bio, anti-fascists exposing the Yellow Vests Canada movement. Um, so what you have here,

00:24:29.880 Candace, which I think it's, to use the word contemptible, I think this fits the definition.

00:24:36.140 What you have here is a conservative leadership candidate sharing an account that is basically

00:24:43.580 run by radical leftists trying to demonize conservatives, trying to demonize the right,

00:24:49.360 and using it to basically attack Pierre Polyev and reaching, I will say, as well. Because

00:24:54.800 what you also have with this line of attack from Patrick Brown, Candace, which I don't understand,

00:24:59.880 He is using the same tactics as Justin Trudeau.

00:25:03.220 Justin Trudeau told Canadians that if you were supporting the truckers, then you were

00:25:08.580 also basically in favor of the one person waving the swastika flag or the one person

00:25:14.660 waving the Confederate flag.

00:25:15.720 And we all rightfully said that that was terribly divisive.

00:25:19.460 But Patrick Brown is now saying that because Pierre Polly had supported the trucker convoy,

00:25:24.960 he is now basically being lumped in with Pat King, someone who even the convoy organized

00:25:29.880 organizers distanced from because they find his views to be horrible. So what we're seeing here

00:25:35.340 is fundamentally not conservative at all, Candace. They're using a radical far left Twitter page to

00:25:43.620 launch attacks on conservatives. And I think conservatives and Canadians should know about

00:25:48.640 this sort of thing and frankly, be generally upset about it because it's horribly divisive.

00:25:53.740 Well, and that's the reason we included it in Fake News Friday, because it's like

00:25:56.960 when when when conservatives are the ones that go out and mimic this leftist narrative against like

00:26:03.180 like the left uses this as a as a a hammer to to to destroy conservatives by saying you guys are

00:26:10.200 one step away from white nationalists and it's incredibly damaging to conservatives because

00:26:16.300 there's need to fight back against this total nonsense when you have someone like patrick

00:26:20.720 brown kind of giving credence to it and giving it legitimacy and saying yes it's true conservatives

00:26:26.300 are aligned with the most despicable human beings on the planet, you know, guess what? That's going 0.93

00:26:32.580 to come back to haunt the party in the future. And of course, it's worth noting, if you just go

00:26:35.840 back to that tweet one more time of Pat King, I mean, okay, first of all, Pat King, look at the

00:26:43.440 guy. Like, he's a despicable slob. He is a reprehensible human being. You can see a picture

00:26:48.960 of him here. Patrick Brown says that he's a leader of the convoy that Pierre Polyev supported.

00:26:56.220 What?

00:26:57.020 Like from our reporting and from what I saw, no one wanted anything to do with this lunatic

00:27:02.400 at the Freedom Convoy.

00:27:03.480 He was one of those like clingers on who would show up and everyone would be like, hey, buddy,

00:27:07.460 we don't like you.

00:27:08.560 You can leave now.

00:27:10.000 Nobody wants you here.

00:27:10.920 And he had some role as some regional organizer in the Alberta part of the convoy, probably

00:27:18.760 because people didn't realize how toxic he was and some of the crazy things that he would

00:27:24.100 say online.

00:27:24.800 And anyone that's peddling this nonsensical white replacement conspiracy theory clearly has no place within the conservative party. I mean, that's not something that conservatives talk about or think about or care about. Almost every conservative I know outright hates this theory and condemns it, including Pierre Polyev.

00:27:44.200 So this idea that Patrick Brown is pushing is so disingenuous, so dishonest, and again, just echoing the lies of the mainstream media, which give those lies more credibility. And that's the problem. That's why we included it in Fake News Friday.

00:28:00.100 Of course, it wasn't just Patrick Brown.

00:28:03.260 There were other conservative candidates, including Jean Charest, who's also a leadership

00:28:07.080 contender, who jumped into the fray to try to discredit Polyev over his support as well.

00:28:13.260 Yeah.

00:28:13.820 OK, so so this idiot guy, Patrick King, made a video where he discussed Anglo-Saxon replacement.

00:28:19.840 That's again, he's not a conservative candidate.

00:28:21.560 He's not running for office.

00:28:22.620 He has nothing to do with the party.

00:28:24.000 So why these conservatives are trying to lump him in and then somehow tie it to a crime

00:28:28.740 that happened, you know, despicable mass shooting that happened in Buffalo is just beyond me. Like

00:28:34.180 anyone trying to draw this connection should be laughed out of a room, but instead it's being

00:28:40.060 embraced by the people leading the party. This is one of the most divisive, just terrible tactics

00:28:46.720 manageable, Harrison, because obviously this is going to come back to haunt the party. Like,

00:28:50.720 if you don't think that in the next general election, whoever's leading the party, be it

00:28:55.520 Jean Charest, Patrick Brown, or Pierre Polyev, that the media is not going to take this exact

00:29:00.780 line of attack that they've come up with here and use it against the conservative party and say,

00:29:05.260 oh, you guys are all just Buffalo shooters. Oh, you guys are all just white replacement 0.80

00:29:08.680 nationalists. They will. And they will do it because of what's gone on this week with these

00:29:14.460 very misguided, in my opinion, conservatives who, again, are just using this as a cheap

00:29:19.600 opportunity to dunk on the front runner Pierre Polyev. It's so damaging for the party. I remember

00:29:24.640 two weeks ago uh after the debate that i moderated in ottawa you know everyone was talking about how

00:29:30.080 oh you know this is this is so bad for conservatives because the way that they were duking it out and

00:29:35.280 how confrontational they are um that feeds right into the liberal party's playbook they can use

00:29:39.920 these clips for attack ads it's like where are all those voices this week to say to people like

00:29:45.920 patrick brown and jean chariot like uh hey guys let's how about we draw the line at accusing one

00:29:51.040 another of being racist murderers. How about that? How about calling each other racist murderers is

00:29:56.200 just a step too far? Yeah. And this attack line spurred all of these fake news stories in the

00:30:04.180 legacy media, because as we said at the beginning of the show, Candace, these journalists are

00:30:08.600 looking for anything they can to jump on the front runner and to try and use it as a club

00:30:13.620 to bash conservatives with. If Patrick Brown doesn't know that his attacks against Polyev

00:30:19.180 are being used to attack conservative party members and will be used to attack conservative

00:30:24.780 party members. And I think that's something he has to take up with his own campaign. But

00:30:28.360 this wasn't the end of the lines of attack that we saw from Patrick Brown's campaign.

00:30:34.920 Michelle Rempel-Garner, who I believe is Patrick Brown's national campaign chair,

00:30:39.380 I might be wrong about that, but she plays a role in Patrick Brown's campaign.

00:30:42.580 and candace i know we talked we talked about this but she tweeted uh an email sent to patrick

00:30:49.300 brown's campaign which i don't even i wonder if we have the email uh on in in the clip we do so

00:30:57.420 here here you see this michelle rumple garner screenshotted an email sent to the campaign and

00:31:03.360 the email reads you have sent this to the wrong person i'm not even going to read it but basically

00:31:08.120 It's clearly ridiculous. Anyone who reads this would obviously know this is someone trying to

00:31:13.900 troll the conservatives and troll Pierre Polyev. And Michelle Rumpelgarner and Patrick Brown took

00:31:19.360 the bait. She posted this out there. And in her tweet, she writes, the Patrick Brown campaign

00:31:25.360 issued an email denouncing the racist white replacement conspiracy theory. Below is a

00:31:30.100 screenshot of a response the campaign received. The campaign confirmed this email was sent from

00:31:34.380 an active conservative party member. And there's another tweet too. She writes three tweets. So

00:31:39.000 I think the second tweet from Michelle Rempel-Garner, there it is. She writes,

00:31:44.380 the campaign has forwarded this email to the party's executive director and have asked that

00:31:48.760 this membership be revoked. We expect all campaigns will support this call. And there

00:31:53.560 might be a third there as well. No person who holds these wild beliefs should have a home in

00:31:58.440 the conservative party of Canada. Now, Candace, I can't for the life of me think that this is

00:32:04.300 only time patrick brown's campaign has received a nasty email and i'm sure that what they do most

00:32:09.580 of the time is just discard them and not try and use it as a object to beat conservatives over the

00:32:15.020 head with especially if you're trying to lead the conservative party but instead what they do is

00:32:19.580 they put this out there unsubstantiated without any real uh evidence of its legitimacy and then

00:32:26.940 basically put it out there for legacy media journalists uh to go and attack conservatives with

00:32:34.300 it i mean it's like yeah guess what we everyone gets like a bunch of spam and crazy junk like

00:32:39.580 this is why i don't bother reading my comments on most social media sites it's like yeah there's

00:32:45.340 there's a lot of people who will write crazy stuff down behind their you know keyboards uh

00:32:52.060 literally someone's sending patrick brown an email saying i believe in nazism and i support pier

00:32:58.540 Polyev. Like, I mean, give me a break. And then the idea that they're going to take this and put

00:33:06.100 it out on Twitter, which is going to lead to a bunch of stories saying, here you go. Aha,

00:33:10.280 I knew it. Nazis support the conservatives. Nazis support Pierre Polyev. You know, maybe like the

00:33:16.460 four Nazis in Canada do. I don't know. I doubt it because conservatives are also very like 0.69

00:33:22.200 ethnically diverse, open-minded group of people. And this idea that it has anything to do with

00:33:27.640 Nazism is the most absurd thing you can imagine, given that the primary thing that Pierre Polyev

00:33:34.820 talks about is freedom and a free society, democracy and the rule of law, which is the 0.69

00:33:39.700 exact opposite of fascism and Nazism. That's why the two sides went to war in the Second World

00:33:44.320 War. The war was all about the fight between freedom versus fascism. And Canada was on the

00:33:49.840 freedom side. So anyway, I mean, it's so stupid that it's not even worth really going through

00:33:55.980 debunking. But I will just say, Harrison, this is a scorched earth approach to leadership. I mean,

00:34:02.400 I can't imagine Michelle Rumpel or Patrick Brown being welcome anywhere near the party. If they

00:34:08.300 truly believe that Pierre Polyev is out there winking and nodding at neo-Nazis, presumably

00:34:13.480 they would, well, at least Michelle Rumpel would resign as MP the moment Pierre wins, because why

00:34:18.560 would she want to be part of a party that does that, led by a person that she believes does that?

00:34:23.360 I don't think that she genuinely believes that. But but really, I think that this this line of attack and this strategy and this pushing of, again, the worst accusations from the, you know, the depths of the far left legitimizing the derangement in the media with this line of attack does nothing but damage to to all conservatives.

00:34:46.020 And these people really need to be called out because, I mean, this is, this is absurd. So we, you know, we already have the CBC story here, conservative party investigating the racist email sent to the Brown campaign. Well, good. I hope, I'll be fine. Whoever sent it, obviously, if it came from a party member, they can just track down who it was. And my guess is the person will probably say that it was a joke or, you know, if that person truly does hold those beliefs and absolutely, they should be kicked out of the party because that's crazy.

00:35:13.680 Uh, but, but really this, this whole thing is just a stretch in my mind.

00:35:19.280 No.

00:35:19.920 And, and Patrick Brown's campaign is veering, I would say into the territory of, as you

00:35:25.820 say, scorched earth, uh, campaigning.

00:35:27.920 It's sort of like kamikaze campaigning because at what point can you possibly, um, try and

00:35:34.800 unify the party, uh, when you go on, when you go on this line of attack, basically trying

00:35:40.480 to accuse the supporters of the frontrunner of the race of being nazis and white supremacists

00:35:46.500 it's there's no there's no way you can recover from this and it's almost it it's kind of what

00:35:52.460 you would want to do if you were intentionally trying to uh tank someone and bring and bring

00:35:58.280 everyone down with you it's it's it's shocking shocking politics really and then candace this

00:36:03.940 is the part that really, uh, was a bit of a surprise because the day after Patrick Brown

00:36:10.220 sent an email to all conservative party members, basically linking Pierre Paulia's support of the

00:36:15.900 truckers to Pat King, and then disgustingly tying it to the Buffalo shooter, trying to play some

00:36:22.100 sort of connection as though there's anything to be had there. The day after he sends that scathing

00:36:26.980 email to conservative party members, he then goes on Twitter and writes, I just want to, I want to

00:36:33.480 make sure I have it right here. Yeah. Patrick Brown tweets, when this race concludes, I want

00:36:38.940 all conservatives and all Canadians to unite behind a hopeful United party that is focused

00:36:43.940 on delivering a bright future for our country. I'm not sure how a U-turn like that can happen

00:36:49.180 so quickly, Candace. Maybe they did some focus groups and polling and decided that actually

00:36:54.020 their approach of basically destroying party unity was not working for them. But I mean,

00:37:00.440 what can you say about this? This is a shocking U-turn really. Well, it's the icing on the cake

00:37:05.220 of hypocrisy. Like I can throw every grenade I have at you. Like I said, I can accuse you of

00:37:10.520 the worst possible things imaginable, including being a Nazi and being on board with a racist

00:37:16.120 massacre in another country. But, but, but Hey guys, let's just all get along. Can't we all be

00:37:21.120 friends? Like, give me a break. Okay. Let's move on to another peer poly of derangement syndrome

00:37:27.400 example. This one comes again from CTV, and they posted this headline, Polyev personally holds

00:37:34.380 investment in Bitcoin as he promotes crypto to Canadians. So we're supposed to believe this is

00:37:39.120 a scandal, everybody. It is a scandal that Pierre Polyev, who publicly used Bitcoin to purchase a

00:37:46.740 shawarma in London, Ontario, that was how his whole discussion about Bitcoin began. He bought a shawarma

00:37:51.720 using bitcoin which anybody who has like the slightest bit of logic or understanding of how

00:37:57.720 money works would have to realize that hey in order to buy something with something you have

00:38:02.440 to first own it right like okay but but here's the scandal that ctv news has diligently investigated

00:38:10.120 conservative party of canada conservative party leadership candidate pier poliev has a personal

00:38:15.960 financial interest in crypto cryptocurrency that he promoted during the campaign as a hedge against

00:38:21.800 inflation so it's all just a ruse so that pier poliev can make a bigger return on his crypto

00:38:27.400 wallet um and then they go on and on to make it seem like it's some kind of a scandal that the

00:38:33.480 guy who used bitcoin to buy shawarma owns bitcoin uh this is this is uh just as good as it gets on

00:38:40.840 fake news friday harrison what do you think of the story well yeah talk about reaching right i mean

00:38:45.160 they were clearly running out of stories so they had to come up with something uh some way they

00:38:50.680 could try to uh i guess stunt the uh the momentum of of polyab's campaign and this is this was their

00:38:57.320 attempt to try and criticize his line on cryptocurrency i was thinking about this and i

00:39:02.760 thought that if if talk about crypto and decentralized currencies was not not a central

00:39:10.440 part of the leadership campaign but if it was not part of this conservative leadership campaign in

00:39:14.360 some in some way after what happened during the freedom convoy after watching uh canadians uh

00:39:19.880 have their finances frozen by the government for donating to a to a legal protest movement

00:39:26.120 if it wasn't part of the conversation then it wouldn't be doing a service to canadians

00:39:29.640 people want to have these conversations about decentralized digital currencies it's part of

00:39:35.320 the new conservative movement but pierre polyam seems to be the only person talking about it it

00:39:39.960 seems to be the only person uh really grasping the issue and this article was was hilarious because

00:39:47.400 they they make the headline canis as you say as though it's some sort of scandal piece here's the

00:39:51.800 big scoop polyev is trying to personally enrich himself but then it goes on to say actually that

00:39:58.360 polyev disclosed his uh crypto holdings to the ethics commissioner he asked the ethics commissioner

00:40:04.760 if he was allowed to promote crypto in his leadership campaign. And it was all done by the

00:40:10.880 book. So everything he has done about crypto has been done legally. And he followed the ethics

00:40:17.380 commissioner and the ethics commissioner's guidance on it and actually took the initiative

00:40:21.900 to check with him first. And then, of course, at the end, they have to provide context for the

00:40:27.360 reader to tell you how many MPs actually have disclosed crypto holdings. Eight MPs in the

00:40:34.620 House of Commons publicly disclosed crypto assets, Candace. Five of those eight are liberals.

00:40:40.880 And one of the conservatives they listed, he doesn't even hold it. His wife holds it,

00:40:44.960 yet he publicly disclosed that his wife holds crypto. So this is the farthest thing from a

00:40:49.500 scandal. This is someone who is actually talking about something he knows. I think maybe there

00:40:55.020 might be more of a scandal, Candace, if he was promoting crypto without holding any crypto,

00:40:58.700 right but in fact no of course there's nothing here this is classic reaching uh and i think

00:41:04.860 they're just trying their very best to do whatever they can to stunt the momentum of

00:41:08.620 call yes leadership campaign well totally reaching totally grasping for straws and of course they

00:41:13.660 quote a far left deranged advocacy group uh just to say this is the ethics uh advisory group they

00:41:19.820 call it democracy watch um just to you know come up with this tweet it's clearly unethical for mps

00:41:26.140 or party leadership candidates to advocate for changes that will help businesses they are

00:41:30.700 invested in. The best way to stop this is to prohibit MPs from having investments. I mean,

00:41:36.380 it's just okay. All right. Good luck with that. Good luck with that. Really, they're just throwing

00:41:42.200 everything they possibly can at Pierre in the hopes that something will stick. I don't think

00:41:46.960 any of the stories that we suggested or covered here today will have any impact whatsoever,

00:41:52.260 other than the fact that, you know, if Pierre does win, that stuff from Patrick Brown, Michelle

00:42:00.420 Rumpel, and Jean Charest will definitely be used against not just Pauliev, not just the whole

00:42:05.300 Conservative Party, it will be, but every single Conservative in the country, for sure, they will

00:42:09.320 hold that against them. All right, Harrison, let's just do, let's do one more story here, because

00:42:14.480 Well, this is a good one. The Globe and Mail columnist John Doyle writes a piece about the cultural ignorance of conservative candidates is a revealing insult, according to the Globe and Mail's television critics.

00:42:31.420 So remember that cringy debate that happened in Edmonton a few weeks ago, hosted, it was the first official debate by the Conservative Party. And rather than asking these candidates substantive questions about their beliefs, their principles, their vision for Canada, where they stand on policy, we spent a good chunk of the evening just asking them nonsensical questions that you would usually perhaps ask someone, I don't know, on a first date, or at a dinner party or something like that.

00:42:59.360 One of the one of the questions, it seemed like these questions were designed to try to embarrass the candidates like like tell us about your cultural interests just so that we can turn around and mock you for them.

00:43:11.400 Like the whole idea when the host asked, what book are you reading?

00:43:16.340 You know, the idea that these guys who are in the middle of a political campaign for their lives and for their careers, you know, they're constantly campaigning, constantly traveling, working on speeches, working on policy, burning the oil on both ends, that they would sit down and, you know, open up a Dickens novel or something.

00:43:35.400 I mean, obviously they're not reading books right now, right? But I think the whole thing was designed to kind of embarrass them. Well, this is John Doyle capitalizing on that by looking down his nose, like the snob he is, to say that, oh, these people are so ignorant. They're so ignorant. So, Harrison, why don't you give us some examples from that article?

00:43:54.120 right so uh well john doyle who is i guess some sort of film critic uh role of the global mail

00:44:01.780 i guess he's i guess he's running low on stories so he's dipping his toes into the conservative

00:44:05.920 race he talks about he's he's so disappointed candace that the conservatives didn't list off

00:44:14.280 some of the very famous canadian shows um which he brings up because i'm going to read a couple

00:44:19.000 of these paragraphs because they're just unbelievable. In the story, he writes that

00:44:24.240 the list of shows the conservatives mentioned amounts to a telltale revelation. These people

00:44:30.260 seem to be completely ignorant of Canadian-made TV that's renowned, award-winning, and made in

00:44:35.220 their own backyards. It was like dirty laundry being aired. It was an excursion into the mind

00:44:39.800 boggling, he writes. And then he takes shots at Roman Babber, who made the apparently the

00:44:44.980 extraordinary claim of having binge watched Married with Children, which is a show not really

00:44:51.400 my vintage, but I guess it's a show from the late 80s and 90s. And then he takes, well, he actually

00:44:58.680 just lists off every single candidate and takes issue with what they said. But Candace, I'm guessing

00:45:03.300 that John Doyle would have liked it if these candidates talked about their love of CBC shows

00:45:09.180 like Anne with an E or Little Mosque on the Prairie. Or in the article, he mentions,

00:45:15.460 why can't these conservative candidates watch a show like Flashpoint or something else that's

00:45:21.100 made in their backyard, which he says, Orphan Black? I mean, this is so ridiculous that the

00:45:28.900 Globe and Mail would take issue with the shows that the conservatives were unfortunately asked

00:45:34.660 to talk about during the leadership debate but again i guess i guess he just wants us to watch

00:45:39.460 some of these cbc gems uh which uh which unfortunately uh for john doyle i don't think

00:45:46.260 anybody's watching well here's the thing if anyone had actually listed off any of these

00:45:51.060 obscure shows that nobody watches nobody watches them because they're probably funded by the

00:45:55.060 government and the government funding stuff is is not a very good indicator that it's something that

00:45:59.300 that Canadians want to watch. Right. You know, if they had gone out there and said, oh, my favorite

00:46:04.300 show, everybody is Little Mosque on the Prairie or Kim's gonna be, you know, they would just get

00:46:09.540 accused of pandering. It's like, you know, even when Pierre Polyev said that, you know, his

00:46:15.560 favorite song was Alberta Bound, you know, it kind of had a little bit of, yeah, sure, Pierre,

00:46:21.780 right. But really, you know, the thing that I got this, you know, Roman Baber moved to Canada

00:46:28.460 as a child from Russia, like so many people who moved to Canada, they learned to speak English

00:46:32.180 from watching television shows. I have a friend who learned English like entirely from watching

00:46:36.600 the show Friends. That's how she learned English. Roman Baber says he did it from married with

00:46:41.900 children. And Don Doyle jumps in to say he's watching misogynistic trash from a bygone era,

00:46:48.500 offensive, raunchy, sleazy, featuring appalling figures who insult each other constantly. Like,

00:46:54.080 yeah, you know, that's the kind of lowbrow stuff that most people just enjoy. And the whole idea

00:46:58.080 watching tv is is kind of like a mindless exercise so no you don't have to go out there

00:47:02.400 and find the latest uh you know government funded uh avant-garde highbrow uh you know piece of

00:47:11.360 theater it's like no it's it's it's a show that was the whole thing what are you binge watching

00:47:15.440 the whole idea of binge watching it's like it's like a guilty pleasure um so you know the whole

00:47:20.880 the whole concept which is why i'll go back to my point that i made uh in the day after the the 0.61

00:47:25.440 debate uh the the candidates on stage should have just refused to answer these idiotic questions 0.61

00:47:29.440 they should have just said look look tom uh i appreciate what you're trying to do here but

00:47:33.760 there are important issues facing our country why don't we talk about the threats to canada

00:47:38.640 the cost of living the issues that we want to talk about let's not spend half the debate

00:47:43.120 pretending that we're all you know film critics and that we can that would have been that would

00:47:47.520 have been the best line of the debate if someone had actually said that to tom if someone had had

00:47:52.080 basically said out loud what every single person watching that debate was thinking

00:47:55.680 they would have hit the they would have had the best line they would have won the debate

00:47:58.560 by just saying no i'm i refuse to i refuse to answer this this question which is clearly

00:48:03.360 tailor-made at giving giving our opponents something they can they can make jokes about

00:48:07.200 us over such a such a bizarre article from the globe and mail i gotta say it's like

00:48:12.240 that's the one thing you have to say i mean we we we went through the whole week of attacks on pier

00:48:17.280 on Pierre Polyev and, you know, little dog whistles that the legacy media are trying to

00:48:22.600 catch and exploit. And John Doyle kind of comes in at the end with the shots at the content of the

00:48:30.180 shows candidates are watching. It's so, so bizarre. Well, he does throw in another dig at Pierre

00:48:38.000 again, trying to drum up this dog whistle stuff, because apparently Pierre Polyev cited the

00:48:43.680 miniseries Trotsky as the thing he's watching. Well, this is very bad, everybody, because it's

00:48:48.520 a, it was made by a Russian state controlled network. And it's notorious for apparently 0.77

00:48:53.800 wildly anti-Semitic imagery. So, so, so maybe that was another dog whistle to Harrison. I don't know.

00:49:00.260 And that's, that's, that's the direction we're going. But yeah, not surprising that the global

00:49:04.040 mail would pick up on this and use it to attack conservatives because they'll attack conservatives

00:49:08.960 for absolutely anything and the whole thing was just not a good idea from the start well

00:49:14.740 Harrison thanks so much for walking us through the news I'm sure as this race heats up and as 1.00

00:49:19.100 Polyev becomes uh stronger and more prevalent uh there'll be lots lots more of this derangement 1.00

00:49:25.040 that we can uh break through and and break it all down for you so thanks so much for joining us

00:49:30.200 yeah it is a pleasure I'm hoping maybe the legacy media can pick a different candidate

00:49:35.060 and we can just kind of have content for months to come.

00:49:39.920 They can go down the whole list.

00:49:41.640 Wouldn't that be great?

00:49:42.560 Yeah, I somehow doubt.

00:49:44.060 Well, you know what happens is that when politicians

00:49:46.700 are running for the Conservatives,

00:49:48.500 the red Tories, the media will treat them really well.

00:49:50.480 And then as soon as they become the candidate,

00:49:52.740 it'll turn on them.

00:49:54.540 I assume that's what would happen

00:49:56.200 if Jean Charest or Patrick Brown became a candidate.

00:49:59.260 But certainly lots of content as always.

00:50:03.140 So appreciate your time, Harrison.

00:50:04.620 and the viewer thank you so much for tuning in it's been fake news Friday I'm Kenneth Malcolm

00:50:08.660 and this is the Kenneth Malcolm Show

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