Juno News - March 19, 2026


Poilievre on Rogan + Man THREATENS to sue Juno News for calling him a man


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show News Update. Today is Thursday,
00:00:06.360 March 19th, 2026, and we have a fantastic episode for you today, folks. Later in the
00:00:11.140 program, we are going to be joined by Juno News' Melanie Bennett to talk about her incredible
00:00:15.400 reporting, just exposing the absolute wokeness of our society. Some of these stories are so
00:00:19.680 crazy. I have a hard time believing them and taking them seriously, but it is happening
00:00:23.100 in our country, and it's so important to shine a spotlight on it. So I'm looking forward
00:00:26.700 to that conversation. I want to start with the news of the big story that broke yesterday
00:00:30.060 is that conservative leader Pierre Polyev, who is down in Texas, he had a meeting with
00:00:34.420 the governor of Texas, Mr. Abbott, and then he released this bombshell breaking Pierre Polyev
00:00:41.620 to join the Joe Rogan podcast, fought for Canadian workers and Canadian interests on
00:00:47.520 the world's biggest podcast. Thank you, Joe Rogan, for an amazing conversation. Let's get
00:00:51.820 tariff-free trade with this picture of them holding up a Canadian weight. They're looking
00:00:59.000 very happy and very excited. So this is big news, folks. This is the biggest podcast in the world.
00:01:04.580 It's also the biggest podcast in Canada. 11% of Canadians watch Joe Rogan weekly. He is a huge
00:01:11.360 cultural phenomenon. As you know, everybody knows Joe Rogan. Everyone knows the conversations in
00:01:15.760 the podcast. He's sort of eclipsed the legacy media and the cable news in the United States.
00:01:21.240 It's like, you know, they used to have all these comedy shows, these late night shows with people like Jimmy Kimmel and, you know, Stephen Colbert, all these people.
00:01:29.120 They're not funny. They don't do a good job. They're just sort of like partisan hacks.
00:01:32.240 No one watches them anymore. People watch Joe Rogan, right?
00:01:34.820 He's even eclipsed shows like Saturday Night Live that used to be the sort of place where everyone would gather to watch something funny and relax and, you know, listen to something, have a little bit of a break from reality.
00:01:46.640 Now it's Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan has interesting conversations.
00:01:49.160 is real conversations. He's not overly political. As people know, most of his guests are either
00:01:53.700 athletes or fighters or comedians, right? It's actually very rare that he has political
00:01:58.980 people on his show. And so this is a great opportunity for Pierre Polyev to really just
00:02:04.660 show a different side of himself. I am very excited about it. I am one of those people that
00:02:07.820 thought that he should have done this a year ago, right? When he was running for leader,
00:02:11.800 when he was in the election, there was a lot of talk back then about whether he would or wouldn't
00:02:16.020 do it. And previously, Joe Rogan himself admitted that Polyev's team had rejected an interview
00:02:22.380 request back during the federal election. Let's play that clip.
00:02:25.940 I offered to have that Pierre guy come on the podcast.
00:02:28.640 Really?
00:02:28.940 He didn't do it. Wouldn't do it. Thought it was too problematic or whatever. Jordan told me,
00:02:33.720 I forget what he said, but they were telling him not to do it. Like his advisors were telling him
00:02:37.880 not to do it.
00:02:38.700 Well, that was bad advice in my opinion. I think that it's more conversations are better.
00:02:42.740 you have to show a different side of yourself in today's modern political landscape.
00:02:46.900 Here is Pierre Polyev's wife, Aneda Polyev, Anna, who was showing some behind the scenes
00:02:52.200 teaser footage from inside the Joe Rogan. So you can just tell they're like very excited.
00:02:57.180 This is a very cool opportunity. Again, this is the biggest podcast in the world. And sort of no
00:03:02.240 surprise, immediately, the CBC started pearl clutching. They started talking about how wrong
00:03:08.300 it is and how joe rogan pushes like right-wing manosphere talking points and he's uh pushed
00:03:14.780 disinformation during the covid vaccine uh pandemic uh spoiler he really didn't actually
00:03:20.620 he was painted a very negative light uh for comments that he made about how he treated his
00:03:25.100 own uh covid his own uh battle with covid the media took that out of proportion which is part
00:03:31.420 of the reason why joe rogan left um the left and and is critical of them but anyway here is cbc's
00:03:37.180 J.P. Tasker, trying to smear Joe Rogan.
00:03:40.020 This guy, this character, Joe Rogan, like Rachel points out, huge audience, massive reach,
00:03:45.480 especially among young men in particular.
00:03:46.980 But there's a lot of controversial things that have gone down on that show, right?
00:03:50.720 We can remember some of the misinformation that was spread during the pandemic, a lot
00:03:55.060 of talk about vaccines and some skepticism reflected on that program quite often.
00:04:00.020 He's kind of led a campaign against anti-wokeness, you know, a lot of talk about political
00:04:05.640 correctedness, some of the stuff that might not necessarily be, you know, super popular in this
00:04:11.400 country with a large segment of the voting population. What do you make of this decision?
00:04:16.120 I mean, it's a huge gamble, right? I mean, it could be potentially very beneficial to Polly
00:04:20.020 maybe give him a little bit of a boost when he's been down. But, you know, he's being associated
00:04:23.980 with someone who is probably out of step with a lot of Canadian voters. And this is a problem,
00:04:28.660 right? Because it's like, it's not that any of that stuff is true. That stuff is all just sort
00:04:33.020 made up and designed to smear joe rogan and by association pierre polyev uh the problem is that
00:04:38.620 some people believe that stuff right some people are really somehow scared of joe rogan even though
00:04:43.100 again he hosts the biggest podcast he has people he has hollywood actors on there all the time
00:04:46.940 athletes he has the biggest names in the world obviously president trump on there like it it
00:04:51.660 really like just because you go on someone's podcast doesn't mean that you have to associate
00:04:55.500 and own every view they've ever had and every guest that they've ever had like this whole
00:04:59.180 cancel culture nonsense is ridiculous. Most Canadians have moved on from it. The CBC is
00:05:03.380 still obsessed and dwelling on it. I just want to tie this to a problem that Pierre Polyev does
00:05:07.480 have, right? And so a recent Nanos poll came out earlier this week showing the Liberals at a record
00:05:12.980 all-time high in the polls. This is unbelievable, folks. Nearly half of the population would vote
00:05:17.380 for Liberals in the next election, 48%. The Conservatives would be down to 31, and the NDP
00:05:23.180 are basically just non-existent these days at 11%. So, you know, Pierre Polyev is sort of lucky.
00:05:29.180 sort of dodged a bullet by not having a spring election. And hopefully we will avoid that fate
00:05:34.420 because those numbers and those polls are incredibly scary for conservatives. The liberals
00:05:39.880 have a lead in every major poll since the early January, according to 338. But this is a problem.
00:05:45.020 And this is what the CBC was sort of picking up on. And it's true that boomer women love Mark
00:05:50.940 Carney. They love Mark Carney and they despise Pierre Polyev from the polls. Look at this six to
00:05:57.020 one uh female boomers support liberals over conservative 74 percent of liberal uh boomers
00:06:03.900 baby boomers uh the older crowd 65 plus support the liberals they don't like pure polyev so you
00:06:10.860 know polyev going on rogan might be great for young canadians polyev's audience already leans
00:06:16.460 more conservative sorry more male and more young those are the people who vote for him
00:06:20.780 uh the older women don't like polyev they won't like joe rogan they won't like that he's on there
00:06:24.620 but does it really matter given that Paliyev doesn't really have these people in his fold?
00:06:28.720 I don't know. It's interesting. It doesn't really matter, though, because we're not going into
00:06:32.440 election, right? When the stakes were high, Paliyev didn't go on the show. I am looking forward to the
00:06:36.440 conversation, and we will continue to report on that. All right, folks, I want to get to Juno News.
00:06:40.780 We try to avoid being the story, right? We report on the news. We report on the stories. We like to
00:06:44.840 expose things that are happening, and sometimes the whole story flips around, and suddenly we
00:06:48.860 become the news. Every time I went onto Twitter or X yesterday, Juno News and this story that we're
00:06:53.100 about to talk about was the top story, the top story on social media. So I'm going to introduce
00:06:58.140 the author of the report, Melanie Bennett, who is a investigative journalist here at Juno News.
00:07:02.660 She does great work. And folks, if you want to support our work, if you want to support this
00:07:05.720 journalism, I know you like to watch the show, you know, our videos on YouTube. But if you want
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00:07:24.340 junonews.com slash candace you will get 20 off your annual membership really encourage you to
00:07:29.380 go do that encourage our reporting support our reporting and support reporters like melanie
00:07:33.860 bennett so melanie welcome to the show great to have you here today it's good to be here thank you
00:07:38.420 okay great thanks so much okay so let's start with your story that you broke last week um and then
00:07:43.700 we'll talk about how it happened so just to walk the audience through so melanie broke the story
00:07:47.780 last week of a trans identified sex worker entering the hamilton mayoral raises came out
00:07:53.540 last week on march 12th so meli why don't you walk us through your reporting and what you found
00:08:00.260 i mean people can go read the article essentially um a source came to me with the story that this
00:08:07.300 particular individual um scarlett gillespie who is calls themselves trans trans femme sex worker
00:08:15.300 apparently full service sex worker uh has joined the mayoral race in hamilton and so they're going
00:08:24.340 against the incumbent uh whose name escapes me off the top of my head right now but so this person
00:08:29.380 received i believe is a ymca uh women women's award and has been a an activist on the scene
00:08:36.660 in hamilton for some time uh so i thought it was an interesting story because hamilton does seem to
00:08:42.660 be at the center of a lot of what we would call woke stories it does seem to attract an awful lot
00:08:47.620 of that and so it wasn't beyond the pale or it wasn't beyond my expectation at this point of
00:08:52.260 things that would be going on in hamilton that who used to be a steel town very worker worker
00:08:58.260 working class orientated but now is most certainly becoming very woke and in my other reporting which
00:09:03.620 is education hamilton comes up again and again and again and again it's some of the most woke
00:09:08.900 policies that i've seen unbelievable okay so just like to highlight part of the story so this
00:09:13.540 individual is a prostitute or a sex worker and openly advocates for that it is a he identifies
00:09:19.060 as a trans woman which means a biological man who is identifying or presenting as a woman you can
00:09:25.140 look at photos of this individual and tell in two seconds that it's a man i mean a split second you
00:09:29.940 look at this person it's a man it just looks like a man um that's just my opinion okay the
00:09:33.940 unbelievable part is that the media goes along and refers to this person as she she uses she her
00:09:41.060 pronouns unbelievable to me melanie that that this person won the ywca women of distinction award
00:09:48.820 a hundred thousand dollar prize that they're given to a man who advocates for male prostitution
00:09:54.740 and has a very sordid sort of sad public history why would okay ywca the young women's christian
00:10:03.300 association this person is neither a woman i don't know if they're christians are clearly not living
00:10:07.700 christian lifestyle so really unbelievable that our society gives these kinds of awards to men
00:10:12.980 who who are pretending for all intents of purposes to be a woman unbelievable but the story progresses
00:10:17.940 so the story came out you know we reported on it and then all of a sudden you forwarded me an email
00:10:24.180 that this person sent to us so uh it's kind of confusing because the person has two names they
00:10:29.140 go by scarlet gillespie but then online they go by jelena vermilion and i don't think either of
00:10:34.340 those are probably his birth name but either way so this person let's call him scarlet i guess i
00:10:39.060 don't know um he he wrote on twitter so i was misgendered by melanie vennett in print for the
00:10:44.580 first time by juno news news and square quotes candace malcolm would any legal professional like
00:10:49.860 to provide me legal information um not advice as to whether this is legally actionable defamation
00:10:56.260 I'm interested in filing a claim. Well, this is the email that he sent to us. He said to
00:11:01.900 Melanie Bennett, Candace Malcolm, the Juneau News Desk staff, and to whom it may concern,
00:11:07.000 this email is to demand a correction to the misgendering of me in your article,
00:11:10.660 trans-identified sex worker enters Hamilton, mayoral race, published on March 12th, 2026.
00:11:14.980 My legal name is Scarlett Julesky, and my legal sex is female on all my government
00:11:20.380 identification, including my birth certificate, social insurance number registration, passport,
00:11:24.600 license, and health card. Juno News describing me with male pronouns constitutes libel and
00:11:29.960 defamation and is patently incorrect. I demand you immediately cease and desist from referring
00:11:35.340 to me incorrectly using male pronouns and to cease and desist incorrectly referring to me as a man.
00:11:40.920 Publishing false information like this is effective, effectively harms and dehumanizes
00:11:45.300 me as a person. And it also is harassment to continue to refer to me using incorrect pronouns.
00:11:50.580 i have sought legal advice and will enforce my legal rights okay melody i thought this was sort
00:11:56.340 of wild right it's like i'm sorry i i actually okay the fact that the ywca gave this person an
00:12:02.660 award and gave him a hundred thousand dollars is just despicable shame on that organization okay
00:12:06.740 the fact that the government of ontario and the government of canada went along with this whole
00:12:11.460 thing and gave him a driver's license social insurance number passport birth certificate i'm
00:12:17.620 sorry birth certificate so you went back in time and changed your birth you know the certificate
00:12:23.460 that your mother was given at your birth to change your gender like it's kind of wild
00:12:28.820 i feel i feel bad for these kids i i had to do research on um the alternative stage name jelena
00:12:34.740 vermilion because that's what he's mostly known as and you know he recounts in multiple interviews
00:12:39.380 that he transitioned at the age of 17 and we know in this country these these kids are lied to they're
00:12:44.900 They're lied to by their teachers, by the government, by psychologists, by just about every adult that should know better.
00:12:51.400 And so in his mind, he probably really feel offended by being called the correct pronoun, he, him.
00:12:58.240 But if you notice in the tweet that even put out, I guess, calling us out over the misgendering, you can tell in the corner, the black image is my request for comment to him, which he never responded to.
00:13:12.600 um it there was a Streisand effect here because as far as I am aware the numbers for that particular
00:13:20.260 article weren't that great I mean they weren't terrible but they weren't that great and I think
00:13:24.940 had he just left it none of this would have affected his mayoral campaign because I don't
00:13:30.360 think anyone really noticed but what's happened in this particular case is instead of actually
00:13:34.660 responding to a request for comment from me which he posted by the way on his on on his uh Twitter
00:13:40.960 post instead of instead of doing that he sent a legal threat but he could have left it at that
00:13:46.480 because come on we get those sometimes he then went and posted it online for everyone to see
00:13:52.320 let's be real melanie we get those about once a week we get those once a week especially with
00:13:56.480 your reporting because you go and you do things that most journals won't do and you expose it
00:14:00.800 uh but yeah you're right we like you know i responded to his email and i was just gonna
00:14:06.000 leave it at that i respond to these kind of emails we leave it at that we move on most
00:14:08.960 Most of the time we never hear from people.
00:14:09.980 Yeah, we don't post those online.
00:14:11.480 Never post them, right?
00:14:12.360 And I, you know, when I wrote this response, I thought, you know, I'm going to write it
00:14:15.540 in a polite way.
00:14:16.440 I'm not going to be rude.
00:14:17.180 I'm not going to be mean.
00:14:17.620 I actually feel sorry for this person.
00:14:18.700 I don't know if they're mentally unstable or whatnot.
00:14:20.480 And, you know, you always kind of half expect that it will become public at some point.
00:14:23.680 So I'll read my response that I posted to this person in response to that other email.
00:14:28.480 It says, Scarlett, Jelena, I'm not sure what to call you because you use multiple names
00:14:31.860 online.
00:14:32.240 Thanks for the email.
00:14:33.240 It is our editorial policy to tell the truth.
00:14:35.420 We refuse to be bullied into submission based on woke ideological pressures.
00:14:38.400 men are not women men cannot become women the cbc and some government agencies may happily go along
00:14:43.460 with the delusion but juno news will not we will continue to accurately report to our audience the
00:14:47.960 difference between men and women to be perfectly honest you seem like a nice person and someone
00:14:51.860 who has had a difficult life we're not trying to be mean to you we're simply being honest with you
00:14:56.020 we wish you well and that is how i feel like i to your point i mean i wouldn't call him a kid he's
00:15:01.100 a grown man um i don't know how long uh ago he transitioned but when i look at him he looks like
00:15:05.960 you know yeah i think he's in this i didn't mean i didn't mean now i mean as a child you know
00:15:10.740 yeah he's been he's been people have been feeding into this delusion his whole life and then he
00:15:15.420 comes across an organization like us and we're just not woke we refuse to be what we're fighting
00:15:19.700 back against that and so we're just gonna say things as they are tell the truth to our audience
00:15:24.360 and basically act like the last 10 years of us devolving into a woke dystopian society didn't
00:15:30.280 happen so it's surprising to him like what how dare you the cbc calls me by my female pronouns
00:15:35.800 the government of Ontario, the YWC, everybody, you know, feeds into my delusion.
00:15:41.100 Well, yeah, but let's be honest, it's not even just the so-called media that's to the left,
00:15:45.260 even the right wing, if you want to call it a conservative media do do that. I think we're
00:15:49.320 one of the few, possibly Rebel News as well, but I don't think many others, if any others do that.
00:15:54.540 And so I think this is a really interesting opportunity to discuss whether or not media
00:16:00.720 and journalists should be reporting truth or legal fictions in the press. Now I know there's
00:16:06.480 style guides for the Canadian press in Canada saying you absolutely have to use the pronouns
00:16:10.380 and so on so forth but that's a choice to use that and so if he does sue that would I think
00:16:15.980 that would make a very interesting test case for this idea of misgendering in this country because
00:16:19.480 I don't know that that's been tested in court yet but more importantly to test that with journalists
00:16:24.800 whose job in fact is to publish facts. Right exactly and I'll just you know this this thing
00:16:31.400 really blew up right so so not very many people had known about the story he could have ignored
00:16:35.680 it and and most people probably wouldn't have ever you know heard about him um but because he made
00:16:40.680 this big deal about it and then we hit back we're like you know like I'm not gonna go along with
00:16:45.000 this if you want to sue me like bring it on right like I I think you know I'm not a lawyer but from
00:16:50.940 the legal advice I've had and just do my own research. Like, I don't think that there's
00:16:55.040 anything libelous about this. Billboard Chris, who's a very prominent activist on this, on this
00:16:59.780 issue, he wrote this on X. He said, this man wants to sue Juno News for calling him a he. I hope he
00:17:05.920 does. It will speed up the waking up process for Canada. Sue me too. That's kind of how I feel.
00:17:10.820 It's like, you know, I mean, no harm to this individual. I wish him well, but like, I'm not
00:17:14.720 going to do this, right? This is like the Jordan Peterson thing. I'm not going to do it. Jonathan
00:17:18.300 k who's a journalist independent journalist over at quillette um he writes this on x meet the
00:17:23.340 meet the male rosa parks right like he's he's throwing himself into this victim that's like
00:17:27.180 standing up for trans rights uh kian beckstein my uh co-founder and uh head of juno news here
00:17:34.380 um he wrote this this dude is threatening juno news with legal action because we refused
00:17:38.700 to use she her pronouns and clearly showing a picture of i'm sorry it's a man yes you can put
00:17:43.900 lipstick on that doesn't make you mad uh interestingly in his posts when he was sharing
00:17:48.860 this all he started tagging like all these left-wing groups it was actually almost kind of
00:17:53.100 sad like he was tattletailing on us so he's tagging rachel gilmore come save me canadian civil liberal
00:17:59.660 liberties society association a couple of other journalists that i'm not really familiar with
00:18:04.860 press progress breach breach media like left-wing organizations basically just saying like come to
00:18:10.380 my defense uh come like you yell at these people and join my campaign uh you know and the crazy
00:18:16.460 thing is if he just not like um people can say what they want but if he had not said anything
00:18:21.500 at all no one would have noticed yeah exactly rachel gilmore did jump in and this is what she
00:18:27.500 had to say on x this is genuinely abhorrent from candace my god i don't like i i don't i don't
00:18:34.380 really even understand and unfortunately rachel blocks her reply so you can't even you know
00:18:38.300 sometimes you can get some context from something like what what do you mean it's important like
00:18:42.620 what what did i say that was important other than just that i'm not doing this right um and so that
00:18:47.900 was kind of interesting i i want to go down a little bit of a rabbit hole because i want to
00:18:51.900 get to the truth here and i think the audience deserves to know because to me i i didn't know
00:18:56.700 like i i asked you when we were vetting the story are we sure this is a man right because because
00:19:01.500 he's sort of claiming and the fact that his birth certificate says female like made me wonder like
00:19:05.740 are we sure maybe he's identifying in a weird way but it actually is a woman and this is part
00:19:09.580 of the problem in our society because everyone lies and goes along with the idea that this man
00:19:13.260 is a woman sometimes it's actually kind of confusing as to whether or not they're actually
00:19:17.180 a woman um natasha montreal is a great uh prominent independent reporter um on x she kind of went down
00:19:22.540 this rabbit hole for me so she posted this in response to one of um scola gillespie's twitter
00:19:28.060 and she said are you not male i'm confused what's the problem right because if you're if you're out
00:19:33.100 there openly calling yourself a trans woman that does mean that you're a man right and then all
00:19:36.940 of a sudden jospy says that he's intersex i'm intersex um and then i clown emoji and that's it
00:19:43.420 there's a difference obviously between being trans and intersect natasha says you've been referring
00:19:47.260 yourself as a trans sexual and trans girl for 12 years in public social media sites you were
00:19:52.620 described this way publicly did you recently discover that you were xx uh so so basically
00:19:59.260 this person as well uh sorry i keep getting confused about her name because it's like
00:20:04.860 um she goes by like scullage lesbia is the one that he uses right so anyway this is a tweet i'm
00:20:11.020 looking for i have had my genome sequenced and i am an xx karyotype you can pretend to be polite
00:20:17.660 but you're being willfully cruel i don't really understand what that means in xx karyotype yeah
00:20:22.460 I looked into this a little bit more because I thought it was Swire's syndrome, and it is.
00:20:29.400 I think that's what he's referring to.
00:20:30.720 I think at some point he even named Swire's syndrome.
00:20:33.840 But first of all, male means a human that produces small gametes.
00:20:39.020 That's what male means.
00:20:39.740 It's nothing to do with your chromosomes.
00:20:41.380 I mean, I guess to a certain degree it does, but also no.
00:20:44.540 So this particular mutation is, so I looked it up on Science Direct Medical Encyclopedia, and this is what they say, that it is a 46XX male syndrome, so male syndrome, and it affects about 1 in 20,000 people or male births.
00:21:03.540 That means that the SRY gene, right?
00:21:07.080 So a sex-determining region Y gene, which is a male gene,
00:21:10.920 it's the master switch for determining the male sex in human beings.
00:21:14.840 That contains an X chromosome.
00:21:16.640 So that's what that means.
00:21:18.000 So it's a genetic disorder to do with the male chromosome, right?
00:21:23.840 So I guess you could say it's been feminized.
00:21:26.120 Now, there is another famous case of somebody having Swire syndrome,
00:21:30.060 and that's the Olympic boxer Imani Khalif.
00:21:33.120 I don't know if you remember Imani Khalif. At the time, people were saying, this is a man. And he was saying, no, I've always been a woman. I don't identify as trans. It was a huge thing online. Turns out there was a genetic test done in Joseph Swire's syndrome. He is, in fact, male. And that's led the Olympic committee to then want to put in genetic tests for future Olympic boxing competitions. So this is what Gillespie is claiming to also have. But even if he claims that, he's still male.
00:22:00.380 Well, right, right. Well, and this is a thing that Natasha Montreal dug up that I appreciated
00:22:06.440 is that she'd basically been following this account for many, many years. And she pulled
00:22:10.760 the receipts, which include, okay, this image that this person posted, basically saying that
00:22:16.440 he had surgery maybe to remove his Adam's apple. That's what it looks like. It says
00:22:20.360 CN blood surgical dressing from 2012 healing. And then one of the hashtags is surgery trans woman,
00:22:28.040 trans girl trans like like basically making it pretty clear that that that he's had surgery to
00:22:34.340 to feminize himself yeah i also yeah i read that honestly if i believe if i believe it that that
00:22:40.240 all of a sudden he's coming out saying he has this rare after 12 years of saying i'm a woman that
00:22:44.060 became a or i'm a man that's become a woman through surgery and through all these procedures
00:22:48.240 well listen he could be intersex that could be true like i went to look online for anything
00:22:52.340 that mentions intersex because there's a lot of media online about jelena vermilion right there's
00:22:56.940 lot uh interviews or i'm sorry porn sites there's just a lot of material about jelena has given a
00:23:03.180 lot of interviews and there is a vice interview that i actually just read this morning same thing
00:23:07.660 transitions at 17 talks about hormone therapy also talks about having his adam's apple shaved
00:23:13.340 which is what's in the image there's videos of him talking about his transition the hormones
00:23:17.820 17 all this so it tracks the same thing over and over again and you hear trans trans trans femme
00:23:22.140 transgender transsexual is one that's come up a few times as well but i've never seen anything
00:23:27.340 yet about intersex now i have no reason not to believe him could be intersex sure but again
00:23:32.380 swyer's syndrome is a male condition so we're still not incorrect so there's still no defamation
00:23:40.620 going on at all right and i mean the fact that that he that there's like pornography of this
00:23:47.020 person available online you can tell i'm sorry to be grasping the audience but he has male genitalia
00:23:51.820 right so so like it's a man okay um so so anyway i mean i this is one of the stories again i don't
00:23:59.020 like being the the news i like reporting on the news and every now and then i don't know it just
00:24:02.860 seems like in our canadian political landscape that juno news goes places that everyone else
00:24:06.780 is unwilling to go and when we do that we become part of the story or at least and so but but but
00:24:11.900 this was one of the ones that i was i was like you know i usually don't like it but this one i was
00:24:15.420 like well it's good right this is good this is a conversation that we have to have we should have
00:24:19.100 have had it a decade ago we should have had it more when jordan peterson was one standing up
00:24:22.700 but like at some point people just have to say enough is enough we're not going to go along
00:24:26.140 with the delusion we're going to use he him pronouns it's not defamatory it's not dehumanizing
00:24:30.700 to refer to you as a man i'm sorry that no one else has done it for your entire life
00:24:34.620 we're going to do it and this is the new standard and i hope other media uh come along so uh again
00:24:40.060 the focus is why it's so important to support joe news and i really encourage everyone to go
00:24:44.060 and buy a premium membership and that's where you can find all of melanie's reports melanie comes
00:24:48.860 up with like dozens of reports like this uh all the time really just exposing the insanity
00:24:54.780 particularly around schools and universities and k-12 in ontario but increasingly like all
00:25:00.140 over the country um it's really great i encourage everyone to check it out melanie we'll have to
00:25:04.140 have you back on more frequently to talk about some of your other excuses because i know you're
00:25:07.500 always working on great stuff over there but uh keep up the great work and thanks for joining us
00:25:11.420 thank you candace all right folks all the time we have for today thank you so much for tuning
00:25:15.420 And that's Melanie Bennett of Juno News.
00:25:17.000 I'm Candace Malcolm.
00:25:17.920 This is the Candace Malcolm Show.
00:25:18.800 Thank you and God bless.