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- January 06, 2023
Poilievre takes on F*** Trudeau flags
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Word Count
4,052
Sentence Count
252
Misogynist Sentences
3
Hate Speech Sentences
2
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Hello and welcome to you all. It is Friday, January 6th, 2023, the first edition of Fake
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News Friday in 2023. And let me just give you a bit of a teaser here. We are off to a ringing
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start for the new year. If you missed it, last week we had the Fake News Awards and there were
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a lot of very strong competitors in 2022. Were they not, Harrison? No, there were, Andrew. And
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some of the early themes this year are popping up already that we kind of touched on with the
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Fake News Awards. So we've got a little Pierre Pauliev action in here, some PDS. We've got some
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CBC returning to their old ways. So I guess the saying is the more they change, the more things
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stay the same. And it looks like, especially with the CBC, Andrew, that's going to be the way it's
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going this year. Yeah, I was going to say, can they return to something they've never abandoned
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in the first place? That's a question for the audience to decide. I'm Andrew Lawton. That was
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Harrison Faulkner. Let's get right down to business here. One of the stories that came up just, again,
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we had already hit publish on the Fake News Awards, I believe. And this story came up, so we had to kick
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it into 2023. Pierre Pauliev had a last minute press conference to respond to, among other things,
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bail issues in Canada, and specifically that horrific slaying of an OPP officer by allegedly a man who was
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out on bail and was banned from having firearms, but somehow managed to. And this was something that
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Pierre Pauliev spoke about. And the media could ask, as they're allowed to, questions on anything and
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everything. And one of them brought up a question about a blog post written by a former conservative
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leader, Aaron O'Toole, condemning those F. Trudeau flags. I know you've seen. There were a few of them
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at the convoy. I've seen them every now and then on trucks and cars driving around. And I've said
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before, I'm not exactly a fan of incivility in politics or elsewhere. And Pierre Pauliev was asked
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if he agreed with Aaron O'Toole's condemnation or issues with it. And Pauliev gave what I thought
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was actually quite a measured and intelligent and thoughtful answer.
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Well, I don't like the flags. And I don't like rage. But I think we have to ask ourselves,
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why are people so angry? Like, why are people so angry? And the answer is that they're hurting.
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You know, it's easy for, you know, the political establishment to say, stop all your complaining.
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But when you're one of the 1.5 million people that went to a food bank in the month of March,
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it's not so easy. If you're one of the people that went to the Mississauga food bank and asked
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for help with medical assistance and dying, not because you're sick, but because you can't afford
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to live, it's not so easy. If you're one of the 38-year-olds living in your parents' basement
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because it now takes more of a monthly paycheck to own a house than at any time in recorded history,
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it's not so easy to be happy with the way things are going. If you're one of the people who was
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over-prescribed opioids and is now addicted to drugs as a result, it's not so easy to be happy
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with the way things are going. I have never seen so much hurt and so much pain and suffering
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in our population in my nearly two decades in politics. So yes, of course, we should tell people
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to be more civil and to reject offensive signs, flags, and language. But we should also ask ourselves,
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why are people hurting so badly? So he says right out of the gate, he doesn't like the flags.
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But he said that it would be incumbent on politicians to ask, why is that anger there to such a point
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that people are going to fly those flags and use that term? I don't think that diagnosing where anger
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in the electorate comes from is a bad thing. I think all politicians should be trying to understand
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that even if they don't agree with people. Well, what did the media latch in on on this, Harrison?
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Well, the media, unsurprisingly, decided to say that, well, Pierre Polyev's condemnation
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of the F. Trudeau flags wasn't enough, Andrew. It just wasn't enough to satisfy the media. Of course,
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who could have guessed that what they really wanted Pierre Polyev to do was do what countless
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conservative leaders have done in the past, which is basically, uh, turn around and do and go back
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to their normal ways of kind of condemning and distancing their own base. Instead, as you pointed
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out, and as we just watched, Polyev gave a very measured response and said, of course, it's wrong
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to, you know, have profanity laden flags and bumper stickers and, and kind of inject that into
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politics. But if you're not, if you're not looking at where that's coming from, then you're not really
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doing your job as a politician. After all, what are they there for anyway, other than to represent
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the interests of the people? So classic, this is so classic of city news. They classified this story
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as local news. Now there's a crisis of local news happening because a lot of these news outlets
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are failing to cover local stories. But I would, I would say, Andrew, that an article about Polyev
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not going far enough, not criticizing his base far enough doesn't really fall under local news. In fact,
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when you only quote a political scientist who is obviously coming from the left side of this
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discussion, who's obviously coming from a, from a place that is in opposition to Pierre Polyev,
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again, that can't be local news. Why did that? Why do these legacy media journalists always do this?
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They always say, well, here's a news piece and all we're going to do is cover one side of the political
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spectrum, make conservatives look bad. And there you go. That's some local news for you. It's just
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ridiculous. Yeah. It's what we call in journalism, a single source story and that it relies on the
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comments of just one person. In this particular case, the person has no connection to the story
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whatsoever. It's a political science professor from Mount Royal University, Laurie Williams, who says,
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quote, Polyev is basically saying it's the fault of the prime minister and a better leader will unite
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Canadians. But it's not clear to me what Mr. Polyev is doing is in any way uniting Canadians. It looks
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to me like it's stoking divisions, unquote. So what Professor Williams is saying is that, well, you know,
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Pierre Polyev is not being a unifier. Well, that again veers in, not veers, it actually just completely
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Kool-Aid mans through the wall of the territory here of just general political commentary that has
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nothing to do with F. Trudeau flags, nothing to do with Polyev's comments on the F. Trudeau flags.
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It's just the professor saying, yeah, you know what, Pierre Polyev, I don't know what he's doing to
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unite Canadians. And well, no, that all he was saying, and you don't even need to like Pierre
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Polyev to accept this and understand this is that, hey, I don't like those things. But if we're seeing
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there's a problem with them, maybe it's helpful to understand why people are upset. Maybe it's
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helpful to understand what it is in this country that isn't working right now. And the idea that
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you can just find one person in Canada that doesn't like something and write a story about that.
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I mean, we've been doing it all wrong. I mean, we could just say, you know, man on Dundas
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Street doesn't like what Justin Trudeau just said at that press conference.
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Yeah. And headline is a headline is Canadians can't stand what Justin Trudeau just said when
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it's just one man on Dundas Street. Yeah, we find two of them and boom, we've got ourselves
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a story. Canadians, plural. Overwhelming, booming majority. No, exactly. And this political science
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professor, just in case anyone was, you know, not exactly sure where this professor was coming
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from on the political spectrum here. She even says that the question needs to be asked,
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what is it that represents conservatism? Because, oh, well, if Pierre Polyev is not fully denouncing
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the F Trudeau flags, then maybe that's what represents conservatism. And, and it's just a
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bizarre, bizarre take. Again, you can't classify this as local news. I'm sorry. Local news is like
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weather, you know, maybe some bad, maybe some bad criminal act that happened in a local area,
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but local news can't be a professor from Alberta commenting on a press conference made in Ottawa
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from basically just using one, one political side of the discussion. It's completely ridiculous.
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No wonder there's a crisis in local journalism and local news because goodness gracious, this is
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not local news. Yeah. And I think that there was a fair bit of just to take a 30,000 foot view of
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this, a fair bit of trying to stoke some division between Aaron O'Toole and Pierre Polyev here. I think
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a lot of people, now that Aaron O'Toole is no longer the conservative leader, he becomes the elder
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statesman that is the benchmark against which all other conservative leaders should be measured.
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Same as George Bush was once a war criminal. And then he was that guy, why can't all Republicans
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be like Stephen Harper was once the, you know, kitten eater of the conservatives. And now he's like,
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well, why couldn't, you know, why can't all conservatives just be like Stephen Harper? So
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now Aaron O'Toole is going to be the one that the media goes to for insightful analysis and that what
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should be the conservative perspective. And I think this was a little bit of a glimpse of that.
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Let's talk about our old favorite, I don't want to say punching bag on the show because we punch and
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kick at the bag, but CBC, which ran the most lazy annual journalism that exists in North America. And
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it's every single year, light clockwork. By 9.43 AM, Canada's richest CEOs have already earned the average
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workers' annual salary. This is January 3rd. It's a report that again, literally comes out every
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year. Here's the one in 2022. Here's the one in 2021. Here's the one in 2020. I'm not going to go
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back, but it's the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, which does this every year. They
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calculate down to the minute based on the annual income of the average top earning CEOs versus the
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average income of the average workers. And they try to draw this point that there is tremendous
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wealth inequality and income inequality, which there is. But let's just point out the problem with this
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report. You are comparing the top 100 paid CEOs, which is an elite group within an elite group within an elite
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group, against the general population, as though this is representative of anything other than the
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obvious point, which is that, hey, high earning CEOs make more than lower paid entry level workers.
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This is not groundbreaking journalism, but the media goes along with it every single year.
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It's like you just said, it's super lazy. It takes talking points from the NDP. It's exactly what
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we've come to expect from the CBC. And we've got many examples later on in the show of just this sort of
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thing coming from them. But you know that it's, you know, that it's lazy because the same arguments get
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rolled out over and over and over again. And the article always results in the same conclusion.
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And I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but too bad. I'm going to anyway, at the end of the article,
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here it goes right here. Most notably, it suggests imposing a small wealth tax on the rich. So all of
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this, Andrew, who could have guessed? It's just a boy. It's just a, it's not a, it's the boiled down
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argument is tax the rich. The rest of it's just fluff about all the top CEOs are making too much money.
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We're going to get into the details of the compensation structure, but it, it takes straight
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out of the NDP talking points. Jagmeet Singh tweeted this a couple of days ago, talking about how he's
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not for the big grocery CEOs. He's not for big oil, not for the super rich and all of that. Of course,
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here it comes just in time for the CBC annual article. Oh, the top CEOs are making way too much
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money after 43 minutes of working one day. Oh, it's just ridiculous. Oh, and not to just,
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just to add one more point to this, Andrew, the CBC, even though they write the same article every
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single year, they still managed to get something wrong. They still managed to get something that
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needed clarification. They put out the story yesterday and they had to update it to include,
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yes, to include Monday. So they included the Monday paid holiday, which of course they didn't
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lead within the headline because how better, what, what, what a way to grab clicks, make a juicy
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headline like that. That isn't even really accurate. So there you go. Just a classic CBC by the book,
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playbook sort of, sort of thing. And again, lazy journalism, just embarrassing stuff.
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Yeah. And look, I'm not going to deny that there is significant inequality. In fact, in the pandemic,
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the executives, the people running these companies got significant bonuses. The stock market did very
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well, but the real economy for laborers was very difficult and people did lose their jobs. People did
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lose income. And I don't want to deny that phenomenon here, but the people that raised this
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don't actually have solutions beyond tax the rich because they actually have an issue with capitalism
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more than they have an issue with the specific numbers that they're bringing up here. But if we
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want to be about the numbers here and stick to real news here, here are some numbers from CBC's
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senior management compensation summary. Now, the last one I found was from 2019 and you can see here,
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total cash compensation, the president and CEO's range between $430,000 and $563,374. The executive
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vice president's total cash compensation range is $302,000 to $648,000. And the vice president's range
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there is $274,000 to $603,990. Now, in the case of both the executive VP and the VP, the range,
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the top end of the range is more than double the bottom end of the range. So this is, I think,
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a fair bit illuminating about CBC's precision here on their numbers. But this is, again, what CBC executives
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are making and the compensation for the average worker, the average private sector worker in 2021
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was just under $58,500. So that means that CBC's executives are making more than 10 times what the
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average private sector worker is making, but they don't include that in their story. No, and Andrew,
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and they also don't include things such as inflation taking up a large chunk of people's earnings and
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making those earnings appear or actually feel a lot smaller than they appear. That would be a good,
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worthy piece to add to this article. But of course, no, no, it's just tax the rich, tax the rich,
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tax the rich. Not so much, hey, here's a solution or here's what the central bank, here's what the
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government is doing to cause this problem. None of that, of course. It's just, let's go after the big
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CEOs. They can take it because they make $14 million on average and tax, tax, tax the rich. Lazy,
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embarrassing stuff. Maybe the CBC should be spending more money on their talent and their
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journalism than their CEOs, who I guess aren't doing very much these days because like we just
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see, they're doing the same stuff every year. Well, we know that the public sector was not
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very much dealing with what the private sector was dealing with as far as the job-related issues.
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They are still complaining about being asked to go back to work in person. There was a column by
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Lynn Ward, who is a career public servant. She's worked for the federal government for over 10
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years. She's taking aim at the quote, one size fits all hybrid work model that the government put in
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place to demand that employees come back even part-time to the office. And she says for knowledge
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workers, which is, I guess what is supposed to describe people in the public sector, take from
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that what you will, there are a lot more pros than cons to working from home. And she says the pandemic
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gave us the opportunity to rethink our outdated workplace methods like having an office. And she
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says, does it really make sense to go back to our old way? She likens it to going back to the horse and
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carriage for a few days a week when you have the opportunity of the automobile. So, you know, just to give
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one example here, I file in the course of my work, a lot of access to information requests, which are
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requests that you can file to gain access to government documents, which are technically the public's
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documents. And access to information requests have never been slower than they have when employees
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have been working from home. And they'll be, they'll say, well, you know, we need an extension
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because that division is not yet in the office. So they don't have access to these records and
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these files. So the idea that it's somehow more efficient to have everyone working from home,
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just setting aside your arguments about whether that's preferable, it simply isn't true in a
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government context. No. And to be fair, this knowledge worker, what's your name again? Lynn
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Ward. If there was an award for putting everything you could possibly imagine, all these terms, all
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these, all these words that the far left are using these days to try and bolster their arguments into
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one article, she would certainly be given that award. I mean, let's just, where do you even start?
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You've got this triple Demick. She talks about the danger of the triple Demick,
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the flu, RSV and COVID. I should note RSV is basically hitting toddlers, right? So, so these
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knowledge workers at the public service, they're very afraid of this triple Demick of flu, RSV and
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COVID. Uh, pretty embarrassing. Then she goes to climate change, Andrew. So if you, how could you
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have guessed that actually a return to work is bad for the climate because you have to take public
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transit. You have to take a car to work. Oh my goodness. We're not done there though. Take a look
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at this. She brings in microaggressions as well by being, by working from home. She doesn't have
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to face microaggressions in the office. I've faced less harassment and microaggressions by working
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remotely. I no longer feel like I'm being judged for the clothes I wear or the way I style my hair
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less focused on my personal physical attributes means more focused on my actual work contributions.
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And then she writes, we're exhausted. Flexible work arrangements and the ability to work from home
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has been a savior to reduce daily stressors. Well, I can't imagine how stressful it must
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be to be a knowledge worker with the public service. What a tough, tough gig they have.
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But my goodness, the, the prospect of going back to the office, it's just horrifying, Andrew.
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Now her bio says that she is a member of the LGBTQ plus community. So is she saying that there's
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like rampant homophobia in the public service that she, well, I serious point if she, cause if that's
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the bigger story, if that's what she's experiencing when she has to work in the office is a significant
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discrimination and microaggressions from her colleagues. But my, my point is like, she's
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throwing absolutely everything at this just to see what's going to stick. It's like, uh, it's
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antiquated. It's inconvenient. It's bad for climate change. There's a triple demic and the microaggressions
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and, uh, you know, the, the Lindbergh baby. And it's like, she's just throwing anything and everything
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and be like, surely one of these arguments is going to make its way through. Now, full disclosure,
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I am in my home right now. I work from home. True North doesn't have an office. I am not against
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work from home. I love it. But I also think that it's your employer that gets to be the one to make
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that call. If, you know, Candace Malcolm were to say, Hey, everyone's got to come into the office
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today. And that's the part of the job that we're all doing. And there's a case for why it has to be
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done. Then that is the prerogative of the employer. And, and, you know, I'm all for trying to find
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flexibility when flexibility works, but I don't think we can say that it's just a 100% superior
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thing to have everyone working from home. I know of a number of workplaces where the opposite has
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been the case. Well, Andrew, also, I'm just going back to the top of this article because I thought
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to myself, wait a minute in my prep, I did read that this wasn't full-time back to the office.
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No, it's not. It's like, it's a hybrid. It's a couple of days. It's a couple of days a week.
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She wrote this entire CBC. What is it? This is an opinion section. So they've gone with the opinion
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instead of the analysis. I think analysis is reserved for the journalists, right? That's,
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that's their way of getting around it. But this opinion piece has been written because she has
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to go back to the office, her and her colleagues. Hold on to your seats here, guys. Two to three days
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of the week. Hold on. What is it? Yeah. Two to three days a week. So it's not, it's not even all the
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time, but yet because of this, it's going to increase costs for childcare. Grandparents don't want to have
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to take on the burden of looking after children. Although all of these knowledge workers, all of these
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public servants, I'm just going to go and call them knowledge workers from now on because it's
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just too funny. But they all, they all had no problem working from home or working at the office
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before COVID. But now of course, the triple demic, the equity, diversity, and inclusion targets,
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Andrew, climate change. It just can't be done. It just can't be done. So I guess work from home it
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is. And maybe there'll be like a mutiny in the public sector. They'll just say, we're not going into
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the office. This hybrid model is not working for us. Just unbelievable.
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See, yeah, I think the government, I think the government made a mistake here because they're
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saying when they say come back part-time, the implication there is that, well, it's not really
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that important. We want you to just phase you back in. They should have said, you know what? Five
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days a week, come back in. Uh, if that's, that's the most compelling argument for it, because now it's
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like when they're trying to push this idea of flexibility and hybrid, now people are going to
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say, well, if it doesn't matter to you, then maybe I should just be home five. Oh gosh. Anyway.
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All right. We have to end things there, whether you're working from home, working in an office,
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or you are sunning in Jamaica, like our prime minister. Hope you enjoyed this show and have
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a fantastic weekend. We will see you next week.
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