Juno News - April 07, 2020


Politburo Patty, Chinese Lies, and the Politics of Masks


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

177.08594

Word Count

8,244

Sentence Count

380

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's most irreverent talk show.
00:00:06.740 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:13.100 Coming up, Canada's appeasement of China,
00:00:15.900 why countries need to put their own interests first,
00:00:18.380 and why the Canadian government still doesn't know what to do about masks.
00:00:24.180 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.
00:00:30.880 First they came for the humans, and then they came for the tigers.
00:00:35.140 Yeah, not even animals, not even God's beloved creatures are safe from COVID-19 now.
00:00:41.800 A tiger from the Bronx Zoo tested positive for coronavirus.
00:00:45.740 Everyone is wondering if this is now the next frontier of COVID-19,
00:00:50.080 or if this is in fact part of the grand Carole Baskin Tiger King conspiracy
00:00:55.060 that has been, of course, consuming all of us in our lockdowns as we watch Netflix's The Tiger King.
00:01:01.720 I am very ashamed to report to you on this day that I have fallen victim to the greatest Netflix fad ever.
00:01:08.700 I have watched Tiger King.
00:01:10.780 Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show, everyone.
00:01:12.840 Good to have you here on Canada's most irreverent talk show on True North.
00:01:17.340 Yeah, I buckled down and did it.
00:01:19.660 There were a couple of reasons for it.
00:01:21.180 Number one, I was very nervous that I was just going to run out of everything to watch on Netflix.
00:01:28.360 There's the show that I do watch, that I do love, that I was waiting for a new season of,
00:01:33.100 and it just came out on the weekend.
00:01:34.840 But before then, before then, I was like,
00:01:37.100 okay, there are all these movies that I've seen, and the stuff that I haven't seen,
00:01:40.460 it's because I'm not interested in.
00:01:42.020 And it's not even like I watch a huge amount of TV anyway,
00:01:45.580 but you just, it's harder to grab me now than it used to be.
00:01:49.840 It's harder to grab me with a show.
00:01:51.940 So I was like, all right, I'm out of things to watch.
00:01:55.280 So this Tiger King thing, you know, at the very least, if it seems crazy,
00:01:58.620 the videography is nice because you get to look at the, you know, the big jungle kitties.
00:02:02.800 And then it got to the point where I was seeing,
00:02:05.060 every time I logged on to Facebook or Twitter,
00:02:07.220 I was seeing memes from the Tiger King or about the Tiger King,
00:02:12.040 and I didn't get any of them.
00:02:13.360 And at first, I was like, who on earth is this giant mulleted man
00:02:16.760 that everyone's posting pictures of?
00:02:18.660 Why on earth is everyone talking about Carole Baskin?
00:02:21.000 What's a Carole Baskin?
00:02:22.400 And then I'm like, you know what?
00:02:23.300 I'm not one of these people that typically gets a full case of FOMO,
00:02:27.100 fear of missing out.
00:02:28.320 Like, I'm one of these people, and it's not that I'm a snob,
00:02:30.500 but I can be like, yeah, you know, you guys can do your thing,
00:02:32.500 and I'm not worried about it.
00:02:34.120 But with this one, I was like, I have to figure out what it is everyone's talking about.
00:02:38.980 So I watched the Tiger King.
00:02:40.440 At the end of it, I can't say that my life is any more edified than it was before.
00:02:45.960 If anything, I think I've regressed a little bit,
00:02:48.920 but at least I know what everyone's talking about and joking about online.
00:02:52.640 So, and by the way, I definitely think Carole Baskin did it,
00:02:55.440 lest there be any doubt.
00:02:57.440 Interestingly, OJ Simpson put out a Twitter video in which he said the same thing.
00:03:01.720 So OJ Simpson does know best about who's guilty and who's innocent.
00:03:05.800 But the serious story I mentioned at the beginning, a tiger has tested positive,
00:03:11.480 according to U.S. officials, for coronavirus.
00:03:14.240 This is a tiger at the Bronx Zoo and the first known infection in an animal in the U.S.
00:03:21.220 And this is really interesting and dangerous.
00:03:24.300 Now, it's unsurprising in some respects that an animal could contract this
00:03:28.560 because we think this whole thing came from an animal in the first place,
00:03:32.360 whether it was a bat or a pangolin or something, not a penguin, a pangolin.
00:03:36.600 I realize that you need to enunciate that word because everyone's going to be like,
00:03:39.840 I didn't know they had penguins in Wuhan.
00:03:41.440 But people know that there was some animal transmission.
00:03:45.340 But, you know, I was even thinking as I'm in lockdown,
00:03:48.200 can I like go and play with my parents' dog, for example,
00:03:51.780 as a way to break up the monotony of lockdown.
00:03:54.420 And now I realize even that might be not allowed because, you know,
00:03:58.060 the dog could be a silent asymptomatic carrier of coronavirus.
00:04:03.020 But the tiger, four years old Malayan tiger named Nadia
00:04:06.720 and six other tigers and lions have also fallen ill.
00:04:10.620 They were believed to have been infected by a zoo employee who was asymptomatic.
00:04:16.500 So this is huge.
00:04:18.060 Now, the animals are fine.
00:04:19.440 They're expected to recover.
00:04:20.660 The zoo has been closed anyway.
00:04:22.020 But this means that the carriage and transmission of the virus
00:04:26.460 has just another avenue that people might not have been preparing against.
00:04:31.840 And dogs, you know, like, again, we're talking about things that are unlikely and rare,
00:04:36.880 but still possible.
00:04:38.060 Could you give it to your dog?
00:04:40.220 You take your dog for a walk.
00:04:41.660 The dog gives it to another dog.
00:04:43.280 That dog gives it to an owner.
00:04:44.980 And what's that old song?
00:04:46.000 And the green grass grew all around, all around.
00:04:48.020 And the green grass grew all around.
00:04:49.480 Like, you come up with all of these obscure and convoluted things.
00:04:53.260 But it's possible.
00:04:54.300 It is absolutely possible.
00:04:56.400 And sometimes freak accidents happen.
00:04:59.300 So I don't think this adds anything to the fear.
00:05:02.340 What I think it reinforces is what we were talking about on the show last week,
00:05:06.040 which is the importance of understanding asymptomatic transmission
00:05:09.860 as public health officials in Canada continue to say,
00:05:13.420 oh, you don't need a mask, you shouldn't wear a mask.
00:05:15.340 A mask is only valid or valuable if you have COVID-19.
00:05:19.900 And we'll talk about how the federal government in Canada
00:05:22.340 seems to be wavering on that in a little bit.
00:05:25.300 But I want to begin by talking about Politburo Patti Haidu,
00:05:30.520 alternatively Hanoi Haidu, the health minister in Canada,
00:05:34.020 who appears to have her top priority,
00:05:36.600 not as the public health of Canadians,
00:05:38.660 but of the appeasement of the Chinese regime.
00:05:41.680 Now, this is something that is so unconscionable.
00:05:45.000 And I know it happened last Thursday now,
00:05:46.800 so about five days ago,
00:05:48.720 but I still have to talk about it now
00:05:50.460 because this is just such a despicable and disgusting display
00:05:54.500 from a Canadian leader or a so-called leader in Canada.
00:05:58.920 Actually, a so-called Canadian at this point,
00:06:01.520 given that she's parroting lines from China's communist regime
00:06:04.360 without equivocation.
00:06:06.760 Patti Haidu was asked the question
00:06:08.400 that I said on one or I think both of my shows last week
00:06:12.080 needs to be asked of Canadian lawmakers.
00:06:14.520 And that is whether you trust the numbers coming out of China.
00:06:18.260 Now, Justin Trudeau gave a very waffly,
00:06:21.400 meandering answer on this question.
00:06:23.500 He wasn't really speaking to the meat of it.
00:06:25.840 He said, oh, those are questions for future times.
00:06:28.800 He bumped it down and didn't really give it too much thought.
00:06:32.820 And let's roll that clip, actually.
00:06:34.180 Just to switch gears now on China,
00:06:36.940 U.S. intelligence reports reveal that China concealed
00:06:40.080 the degree and the severity of the outbreak.
00:06:43.620 I'm just wondering, does Canada have a similar intelligence?
00:06:47.180 And in the past, we have said that we trust China
00:06:49.960 and their information.
00:06:51.420 Do we still trust China and their information?
00:06:54.000 We know that countries around the world
00:06:56.240 have been sharing information with each other on their cases
00:06:59.640 and on what has been effective in terms of measures.
00:07:03.460 We've learned a lot from South Korea and Singapore
00:07:05.840 and other countries.
00:07:06.820 We've learned, unfortunately, a lot from Italy as well
00:07:09.420 in terms of what worked and what didn't work there.
00:07:12.820 We need to keep learning from other countries,
00:07:15.580 but we also need to be really thoughtful
00:07:18.020 about how we process and understand that information.
00:07:22.000 Obviously, there'll be many, many questions
00:07:25.200 as this is all worked through over the coming months
00:07:29.740 and indeed years on how this was handled,
00:07:32.840 what lessons are taken, who did well, who didn't do as well,
00:07:36.940 and who was perhaps not as forthcoming
00:07:39.820 with the global community as they should have been.
00:07:42.320 Those are questions, though, for future times.
00:07:45.820 Our focus right now is on getting through this
00:07:48.260 in a way that keeps Canadians whole and safe.
00:07:52.300 So yeah, I thought that was actually a terrible answer
00:07:54.960 when I heard it.
00:07:55.720 And when I heard Patty Hajdu talk about it,
00:07:58.160 I was longing for the non-committal,
00:08:01.100 weak, limp-fisted answer from Justin Trudeau
00:08:04.940 when I heard what Patty Hajdu had to say.
00:08:07.360 And I'm gonna play it in a moment,
00:08:08.860 but I wanna just set the stage here.
00:08:10.800 We're talking about China.
00:08:13.060 We're talking about China with its human rights abuses.
00:08:16.000 We're talking about China with its inability
00:08:19.080 to tell the truth at the best of times.
00:08:21.260 We're talking about China,
00:08:22.360 which right now is holding captive two Canadians,
00:08:25.400 the infamous two Michaels.
00:08:26.720 We're talking about that China.
00:08:29.140 So the idea of trusting China
00:08:31.620 seems like a pretty fruitless endeavor in general,
00:08:35.860 certainly in the case of the China-originated virus,
00:08:40.280 the coronavirus that originated from China.
00:08:43.100 So Patty Hajdu, Canada's supposed health minister,
00:08:45.600 Politburo Patty, as we call her now,
00:08:47.880 is asked whether she believes the China numbers.
00:08:50.920 Here's that exchange.
00:08:52.560 There's no indication that the data
00:08:54.400 that came out of China in terms of their infection rate
00:08:57.520 and their death rate was falsified in any way.
00:09:00.580 In fact, if you look at the death rate overall in China,
00:09:03.740 it's much higher than the one we're seeing now.
00:09:05.480 Please let her finish.
00:09:08.800 No.
00:09:11.260 Ian?
00:09:16.120 So I would say that your question
00:09:18.540 is feeding into conspiracy theories
00:09:20.320 that many people have been perpetuating on the Internet.
00:09:23.720 And it's important to remember
00:09:24.960 that there is no way to beat a global pandemic
00:09:28.280 if we're actually not willing to work together as a globe.
00:09:31.080 We will have to come up with a global solution to this virus.
00:09:35.360 No country is an island.
00:09:37.040 And I am so proud of the Canadian researchers
00:09:39.000 that are part of the World Health Organization Solidarity Project
00:09:42.140 that are working on developing vaccines
00:09:44.540 and treatments for this virus
00:09:46.000 that undoubtedly are going to be a big part of the solution
00:09:50.200 about how we all get ourselves out of this situation.
00:09:52.740 Yeah, she certainly earned the Politburo Patty title.
00:09:56.380 As I said with Candace Malcolm last week,
00:09:58.180 I don't know what the Chinese equivalent of poutine is.
00:10:01.200 Maybe it's Peking duck or something or Kung Pao chicken,
00:10:03.960 but she's certainly gotten her reward from the Politburo
00:10:07.180 for parroting the China line without equivocation,
00:10:10.460 without hesitation, and without any shame.
00:10:13.280 I mean, that's the thing.
00:10:14.180 It's not even just that she's doing what Trudeau did,
00:10:17.380 which is, listen, I mean, there will come a time
00:10:19.740 where we need to look at this and look at it seriously,
00:10:21.900 but that's not now.
00:10:23.080 She doubles down and actually doubled down the next day as well
00:10:27.260 by saying there's no indication China can't be trusted.
00:10:30.820 Those are her words, no indication.
00:10:34.060 No indication that we cannot trust China,
00:10:37.820 the China that I just described,
00:10:39.800 when it tells us how many people have contracted
00:10:43.040 and how many people have died from the coronavirus strain
00:10:46.420 that we're talking about now, COVID-19.
00:10:48.360 Now, there are a few different aspects of this that are important.
00:10:53.380 Number one, there is the Bloomberg report citing U.S. intelligence.
00:10:57.500 This report saying that there is a high likelihood
00:11:01.980 in the mindset of the U.S. intelligence community
00:11:04.180 that the China numbers are way off,
00:11:07.760 that they just can't be trusted.
00:11:09.400 You've got reports from the ground of mass cremations,
00:11:13.040 incinerators running around the clock.
00:11:15.040 And also, by the way, you have from that also numbers
00:11:19.640 that are talking about this Barron's report that I saw
00:11:23.560 that I found kind of interesting,
00:11:25.020 how the trajectory, the data that we saw from China
00:11:28.740 was almost too perfect.
00:11:31.060 So the implication there was that you have,
00:11:36.220 and the best way of describing it is a line
00:11:38.320 that if you were to make up a line
00:11:40.760 and make up a trajectory,
00:11:42.140 that's the numbers we'd see from China.
00:11:43.960 And this is, again, from a Barron story.
00:11:46.000 I'm not a data analyst.
00:11:47.260 I haven't crunched the numbers like they have,
00:11:49.360 but you can see on the screen what I'm talking about.
00:11:51.480 They say that the numbers just seem too perfect
00:11:53.660 to occur naturally.
00:11:55.840 You know, Boris Johnson,
00:11:56.980 not this, you know, evil, gun-toting American redneck
00:12:00.720 like the media is trying to point out to all the Americans.
00:12:03.440 Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom,
00:12:06.200 has said that the U.K. government has evidenced numbers
00:12:08.920 could be 40 times higher than what China has admitted to.
00:12:13.180 Just put that in context.
00:12:14.820 40 times higher.
00:12:16.440 This is not an insignificant differential.
00:12:19.240 And even from the mainstream media,
00:12:21.140 the Washington Post has a story talking about the imbalance.
00:12:25.340 The Washington Post says as well,
00:12:27.360 it could be multiple times higher
00:12:29.520 than what China has acknowledged.
00:12:31.320 Multiple.
00:12:31.780 We're not talking about a rounding error.
00:12:33.600 We're not talking about a difference
00:12:34.980 of just a couple here and there.
00:12:36.280 We're talking about massive cover-ups
00:12:39.080 by the Chinese regime
00:12:41.080 to deflate their numbers,
00:12:44.580 their death toll, their infections,
00:12:46.180 which is par for the course.
00:12:47.840 And might I remind you
00:12:49.120 that even the Chinese Politburo,
00:12:51.340 the Chinese Politburo,
00:12:52.760 who's been showering Patty Hajdu with affection
00:12:55.120 since she decided to embrace
00:12:57.340 their talking points last week,
00:12:59.300 has acknowledged its shortcomings.
00:13:01.860 This is what their own words were.
00:13:03.300 They acknowledged shortcomings and deficiencies
00:13:06.080 in the handling of the virus.
00:13:08.640 China has actually gone back
00:13:10.180 and revamped and revised its numbers a few times.
00:13:13.620 So they are even acknowledging themselves
00:13:16.200 that their approach has not been the most accurate
00:13:20.160 or valid throughout this crisis.
00:13:23.240 And again, even Justin Trudeau was saying,
00:13:26.620 listen, I mean, we can talk about this in the future.
00:13:29.140 And I never thought,
00:13:30.040 I mean, maybe that's the strategy here.
00:13:31.480 Maybe Politburo Patty has to look so inept
00:13:33.960 and so in the bag for the Chinese
00:13:35.800 that it makes Justin Trudeau's position
00:13:37.560 look moderate and nuanced.
00:13:39.660 That's the only explanation I can think of
00:13:42.060 is that she's the one that has to fall on the sword
00:13:44.600 to make it look like Justin Trudeau
00:13:47.400 is the steady hand leading us through this crisis.
00:13:50.200 And admittedly, if you set the bar so low
00:13:52.340 that the Seven Dwarfs couldn't even play limbo under it,
00:13:55.320 it makes Justin Trudeau look a little bit better
00:13:57.440 because it's not that big a bar
00:13:59.620 that he has to clear to look like the adult in the room.
00:14:03.700 Because I talked last week on the show
00:14:05.840 about my concern with Francois-Philippe Champagne's tweet
00:14:09.220 that was showering gratitude on the Chinese
00:14:12.340 for sending medical supplies to Canada.
00:14:15.580 And what was interesting is a European Union diplomat,
00:14:19.540 Joseph Burrell, had called this,
00:14:21.860 not specifically referring to Canada,
00:14:23.940 but China's conduct in general around the world,
00:14:26.840 as, quote, the politics of generosity.
00:14:30.300 And what Monsieur Burrell was talking about
00:14:32.540 is how China uses this supposed benevolence on its part
00:14:36.580 for very political purposes.
00:14:39.160 So even with this benevolence of sorts,
00:14:41.600 you can't take it at face value.
00:14:43.960 You have to approach it with a level of skepticism.
00:14:48.120 And I wrote a column about this.
00:14:49.520 Canada's appeasement of China needs to stop
00:14:52.480 because China has tried to turn
00:14:55.840 the propaganda machine into full force.
00:14:59.460 That's what China's done always.
00:15:01.320 That's what China's doing now.
00:15:03.020 The Wuhan flu, the Kung flu, the coronavirus,
00:15:05.860 whatever you want to call it,
00:15:07.100 has threatened China's reputation.
00:15:09.900 China needs regime survival.
00:15:11.780 So the propaganda machine goes into full force.
00:15:14.880 And when China was on the receiving end
00:15:17.500 of 16 tons of medical gear from Canada
00:15:20.360 and starts to get bad press,
00:15:22.260 it was only when that bad press started
00:15:25.080 that China's sending stuff to other countries,
00:15:27.540 including Canada.
00:15:28.960 By the way, we don't even know
00:15:30.800 if the Canadian equipment that we got from China
00:15:34.060 is working.
00:15:35.580 I mean, China has been responsible
00:15:37.540 for hundreds of thousands,
00:15:38.860 I think millions of units of testing kits
00:15:41.320 and masks that have had to be recalled.
00:15:44.220 In Spain, they had,
00:15:46.340 I think it was Spain or Turkey,
00:15:47.940 I can't remember offhand,
00:15:48.700 but the testing kits only had a 30% accuracy rate.
00:15:51.800 So the dollar store pregnancy test
00:15:53.340 would have given you a better read.
00:15:55.120 You had masks that needed to be recalled in Spain.
00:15:57.920 I think a lot of the masks
00:15:59.180 that people are making themselves
00:16:00.860 out of like fabric are probably better
00:16:03.300 than some of these like Chinese recalls
00:16:06.160 that are being done in Spain and Turkey
00:16:09.240 and the Netherlands
00:16:09.940 and all of these other countries
00:16:11.320 because China is exporting its crap.
00:16:14.380 China gets the good stuff,
00:16:15.740 China exports crap,
00:16:17.340 but Chinese embassies tweet about,
00:16:19.160 oh yes, we're, you know,
00:16:19.980 pleased to help the global effort,
00:16:21.960 pleased to do all of this stuff.
00:16:24.340 So, you know, the fact is
00:16:26.100 there is always going to be,
00:16:28.740 there's always going to be this skepticism
00:16:31.480 that we need to have with China
00:16:33.460 and for the liberals to abandon that
00:16:36.580 and not just abandon that,
00:16:38.780 but to actively resist it
00:16:42.780 for the liberals to actively resist it
00:16:46.100 and accuse people who ask about China's numbers
00:16:49.360 of Chinese conspiracy theories
00:16:52.320 or conspiracy theories about the Chinese
00:16:54.720 and the Chinese regime is unconscionable.
00:16:57.560 We're not talking about some,
00:16:59.220 you know, rabid conspiracy theorist
00:17:01.360 who asked the question.
00:17:02.280 It was a CTV field producer
00:17:03.940 who asked the question,
00:17:05.380 which is a very legitimate one
00:17:06.720 and good on him for asking it
00:17:08.100 about whether we can trust China's numbers.
00:17:11.480 That's it.
00:17:11.900 What's wrong with that?
00:17:13.060 What is wrong with that?
00:17:14.640 Can we trust China's numbers?
00:17:16.220 And then he follows up
00:17:17.480 and she says,
00:17:18.060 you're just feeding conspiracy theories right now.
00:17:21.020 So that is just so egregious
00:17:23.880 and so offensive
00:17:25.780 and interestingly enough,
00:17:28.140 exactly how the Chinese government responds
00:17:31.120 to critical skepticism,
00:17:32.700 which is just to,
00:17:33.680 I mean, certainly I would take her finger wagging
00:17:35.820 over what the Chinese Politburo would do
00:17:38.300 because at least the guy still has his legs
00:17:40.120 and he still gets to walk around.
00:17:41.680 I mean, you try that in China,
00:17:43.220 which is the country that is apparently
00:17:45.600 so fondly trusted and believed
00:17:47.620 by Politburo Patty
00:17:48.800 and it's a very different story.
00:17:51.500 And interestingly enough,
00:17:52.960 the Chinese absolutely adore Politburo Patty now.
00:17:57.360 I'm going to read a couple of tweets here.
00:17:59.740 My personal favorite was from this guy
00:18:02.200 who is a columnist for China Daily
00:18:07.200 and a bureau chief for China Daily's EU operation,
00:18:11.900 Chen Weiwa.
00:18:13.120 He says,
00:18:13.720 Canadian Health Minister Haidu is a role model.
00:18:16.840 She is a disappointment
00:18:17.860 to those paparazzi journalists and fear mongers.
00:18:21.360 Now, I don't know if I am the paparazzi journalist
00:18:24.500 or fear monger in question.
00:18:26.180 He was, after all, retweeting me when he did that.
00:18:29.960 But that's the whole thing.
00:18:31.040 So when you're getting support and accolades
00:18:33.300 from the Chinese Communist Party's publicity wing,
00:18:37.660 which is what that news outlet supposedly is owned by,
00:18:41.600 it's certainly not something you want to be proud of.
00:18:44.900 And, you know,
00:18:45.520 there were a couple of other tweets as well
00:18:47.080 from people like this one,
00:18:48.800 Shen Shiwei,
00:18:50.060 the voice from Canada,
00:18:51.420 liberal politician on COVID-19,
00:18:53.600 hashtag coronavirus truth.
00:18:56.720 And that is from a news producer,
00:18:59.220 apparently, also.
00:19:00.520 So, you know,
00:19:01.260 you have all of these Chinese media,
00:19:03.540 Chinese state media or state-adjacent media
00:19:06.000 that are like,
00:19:06.800 oh yeah,
00:19:07.140 Patti Haidu is fantastic.
00:19:08.480 And you got to wonder why.
00:19:10.140 I mean,
00:19:10.320 we think it's bad enough
00:19:11.160 when the liberals in Canada
00:19:12.800 are cozying up to CBC,
00:19:14.720 more concerned by them cozying up
00:19:17.160 to the Chinese state equivalent.
00:19:20.780 But this is what's happening now.
00:19:22.240 So we are faced with the reckoning
00:19:25.220 or need to be faced with the reckoning
00:19:26.880 that our government is more interested
00:19:28.960 in China appeasement
00:19:30.480 than it is in public health in Canada.
00:19:34.160 And some people were saying,
00:19:35.640 oh, well, no, no, no,
00:19:36.280 because we need medical equipment from China.
00:19:39.120 She was just trying to be diplomatic.
00:19:41.180 And you know what?
00:19:41.700 There's a time for diplomacy.
00:19:43.080 Right now,
00:19:43.920 no one should be bending over backwards
00:19:46.600 or bending in any direction for China.
00:19:48.780 No one at all.
00:19:49.780 They should be the ones bending over
00:19:51.900 for the world right now.
00:19:54.360 So even if there is medical equipment at stake,
00:19:56.920 which again is,
00:19:57.680 you know,
00:19:57.840 you might as well just like
00:19:58.780 take some extra pieces of toilet paper
00:20:00.680 and cover your face with them
00:20:02.340 because that's about as good as the equipment
00:20:03.980 that China is exporting right now is.
00:20:06.400 Even with that at stake,
00:20:07.860 no one should be subverting,
00:20:10.840 subverting the healthy and necessary skepticism
00:20:13.980 that we all need to have with China.
00:20:16.400 Certainly not the supposed
00:20:18.100 and health minister of Canada.
00:20:20.820 We'll be back in a moment.
00:20:22.120 More of the Andrew Lawton show coming up.
00:20:23.900 Stay tuned.
00:20:26.540 You're tuned in to the Andrew Lawton show.
00:20:32.440 You know,
00:20:33.120 I think one of the big takeaways
00:20:34.840 that we should extract
00:20:36.660 from the whole China thing
00:20:38.320 is the importance of not being beholden
00:20:40.800 to other countries.
00:20:42.340 And Ontario Premier Doug Ford said this,
00:20:44.740 this past week,
00:20:45.660 he was actually very disappointed,
00:20:47.680 very frustrated
00:20:48.580 when the news came out
00:20:50.540 that Donald Trump had ordered 3M
00:20:52.640 to stop exporting N95 masks
00:20:55.020 to other countries
00:20:56.160 and that included Canada.
00:20:58.380 And Doug Ford said,
00:20:59.580 listen,
00:20:59.880 I mean,
00:21:00.120 I think this is wrong.
00:21:01.300 We're supposed to be friends.
00:21:02.220 We're supposed to be allies.
00:21:03.520 I think what I take from this,
00:21:05.380 Ford said,
00:21:05.940 is that we can never,
00:21:07.380 ever be reliant on another province,
00:21:09.800 another country.
00:21:10.520 We need to take advantage
00:21:12.100 of Ontario manufacturing
00:21:13.540 and get these
00:21:15.060 so that we have a supply ourselves.
00:21:17.720 And I think that Ford took
00:21:19.380 a very measured
00:21:20.960 and positive position.
00:21:23.160 I think that the Canadian media
00:21:25.480 has just so drastically torqued
00:21:28.500 this 3M thing out of context.
00:21:32.500 And I think there's been
00:21:33.660 a very short-sighted approach to it.
00:21:35.560 And I actually wanted to talk about it
00:21:36.920 because I tweeted something about it
00:21:38.780 that did very well in US
00:21:40.480 and I was getting jumped on
00:21:42.280 by a lot of Canadians
00:21:43.360 and I was going to explain it
00:21:44.820 and I'm like,
00:21:45.160 you know what?
00:21:45.460 This is why I have a show.
00:21:46.840 Twitter is not good
00:21:47.600 for pretty much anything.
00:21:49.080 It's good for Tiger King memes.
00:21:50.540 That's it.
00:21:51.400 But I did find it interesting
00:21:53.540 that all of these Canadians
00:21:55.080 who could,
00:21:55.620 because in Canada right now,
00:21:56.700 we have a shortage of these masks.
00:21:59.060 And Canadians were outraged
00:22:01.040 that in the US,
00:22:02.800 Donald Trump wanted to prevent 3M
00:22:05.420 from sending them to other countries
00:22:06.880 because the US had a shortage.
00:22:08.280 And I thought,
00:22:09.240 OK, I get it
00:22:10.580 because Canada and the US
00:22:11.780 have this long-standing relationship,
00:22:14.040 longest unprotected border in the world,
00:22:16.100 largest trading relationship in the world.
00:22:18.460 They are friends.
00:22:19.680 I mean, everyone's talking about
00:22:20.980 Gander, Newfoundland,
00:22:22.320 taking in planes during 9-11,
00:22:24.640 which became the basis
00:22:25.580 for the play Come From Away,
00:22:27.500 whether it was, you know,
00:22:28.640 Canadians working with the US
00:22:30.780 on that mission
00:22:32.280 to free American hostages
00:22:34.180 from Iran
00:22:35.580 that were holed up
00:22:36.300 at the Canadian embassy.
00:22:38.280 You have all of these different things
00:22:40.260 that are part of this relationship,
00:22:42.320 part of this history.
00:22:43.780 And the fact that, again,
00:22:44.880 the economies are so integrated,
00:22:46.740 you could not put a wall between them,
00:22:49.100 as we've learned
00:22:50.140 in the last few weeks,
00:22:51.720 without there being drastic consequences.
00:22:54.340 But at the same time,
00:22:55.940 Donald Trump was elected
00:22:57.240 based on a very simple premise,
00:22:59.160 America first.
00:23:00.300 And that idea is offensive
00:23:02.280 to everyone but Americans.
00:23:04.320 Whereas I think every country
00:23:05.760 needs to put its own interests first.
00:23:07.300 We need to have Canada first,
00:23:08.840 Britain first,
00:23:09.560 Mexico first.
00:23:10.480 And that doesn't mean
00:23:11.300 ignoring other countries.
00:23:12.780 I am not a protectionist.
00:23:14.080 I actually deplore protectionism.
00:23:16.220 I think trade is in the economic interest
00:23:18.040 of countries
00:23:18.660 and people who live in countries.
00:23:20.700 But I do think
00:23:21.760 that when you are in a crisis situation,
00:23:24.080 like we are now,
00:23:25.300 I understand a country saying,
00:23:29.300 hmm, we have a shortage of these things.
00:23:31.800 We need them.
00:23:32.860 American lives are at stake.
00:23:34.560 Why are we sending our masks
00:23:37.100 to other countries
00:23:38.180 when we have a shortage?
00:23:39.400 And you put a flip side on it.
00:23:41.020 Let's say that Canada
00:23:42.180 was manufacturing N95 masks,
00:23:44.340 which by the way, it wasn't.
00:23:45.640 At the time this happened,
00:23:46.540 there was no domestic N95 production in Canada.
00:23:50.980 I think there are some companies
00:23:52.040 that are trying to retool
00:23:53.000 or are doing other masks
00:23:54.540 or similar masks,
00:23:55.480 but at the time there was none.
00:23:57.400 So if Canada had a shortage
00:23:59.020 and a Canadian company
00:24:01.200 were making these masks
00:24:02.460 and the U.S. were to come in there
00:24:04.780 with a ridiculous bully offer
00:24:06.780 and says, we're going to buy those.
00:24:08.320 Don't sell them to your own country.
00:24:09.920 We're going to buy them
00:24:11.040 and take them off the border
00:24:12.040 or we're going to take half of them,
00:24:13.280 whatever.
00:24:14.100 And the company said,
00:24:14.900 okay, do you not think
00:24:16.860 there would be outrage from Canadians?
00:24:19.000 Wait, why are masks in Canada
00:24:20.720 going to the U.S.?
00:24:22.540 Why are masks in Canada
00:24:23.680 going to Mexico?
00:24:24.540 Or going to the U.K.?
00:24:25.760 And when you flip it,
00:24:28.100 I think it makes a lot of sense.
00:24:30.460 And I don't know
00:24:31.720 why people weren't seeing that.
00:24:33.300 The media was hammering Trudeau on this.
00:24:35.140 Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland
00:24:36.500 were talking about
00:24:37.180 how disappointed they were
00:24:38.460 and how upsetting
00:24:39.580 and how devastating this was
00:24:41.280 and all of that.
00:24:42.240 And I thought that Doug Ford
00:24:43.480 had the best position on it of anyone
00:24:45.960 because he said,
00:24:46.620 listen, I'm frustrated.
00:24:47.860 I'm annoyed.
00:24:48.540 I understand why they're looking out
00:24:50.080 for themselves.
00:24:50.920 I'm disappointed they're doing it.
00:24:52.460 I get it.
00:24:53.480 It's wrong,
00:24:54.160 but I get it.
00:24:55.020 And that was my point on this,
00:24:56.800 which is that it is wrong,
00:24:58.180 but I get it.
00:24:59.460 And I think there is some truth
00:25:00.740 to that idea
00:25:01.480 that we should not,
00:25:02.980 as a country,
00:25:03.760 be beholden to others
00:25:05.160 and be beholden to other countries.
00:25:07.220 We should have our own stockpiles.
00:25:09.680 We should have our own
00:25:10.860 manufacturing of them.
00:25:12.060 Or at the very least,
00:25:13.320 we should have places
00:25:14.320 that on a dime
00:25:15.520 could switch or retool
00:25:17.480 to manufacturing these things.
00:25:19.140 But I found it just so baffling
00:25:22.860 that a country
00:25:24.120 putting its own interests first
00:25:26.140 was seen as such a radical concept
00:25:29.280 to so many people.
00:25:30.440 Like if I have to see one more time,
00:25:31.920 oh, but Gander, Newfoundland.
00:25:33.480 Yeah, okay.
00:25:34.080 Yeah, great.
00:25:35.000 The people of Gander,
00:25:35.840 I'm sure are lovely.
00:25:36.560 The people of Newfoundland are lovely.
00:25:38.360 They did a great thing.
00:25:39.760 But where that comparison
00:25:41.200 doesn't hold water
00:25:42.420 of all the come from a ways
00:25:44.840 landing in Gander,
00:25:45.980 where that comparison
00:25:47.040 doesn't hold water
00:25:48.080 is that Gander wasn't under attack
00:25:50.780 at the same time.
00:25:52.980 So imagine if the U.S. was under attack
00:25:55.640 and Newfoundland was under attack
00:25:58.160 and then Newfoundland still said,
00:26:00.480 okay, we're going to divert
00:26:01.960 our resources
00:26:03.440 that are very scarce right now
00:26:05.340 to help all of these American airliners.
00:26:08.620 That wouldn't have happened
00:26:10.160 because it couldn't have happened.
00:26:11.640 So right now,
00:26:12.720 we're in a very different situation
00:26:14.660 in that both of us
00:26:15.620 are being attacked by the same thing,
00:26:17.580 which is COVID-19.
00:26:18.920 If anything,
00:26:20.020 it is worse in the U.S.
00:26:21.880 The U.S. is the new epicenter of this.
00:26:24.680 And all the Canadian media
00:26:25.980 that have been hammering Trudeau
00:26:27.420 for daring to,
00:26:29.880 well, basically hammering Trudeau
00:26:31.560 over this are aware of this
00:26:34.240 because they've been saying,
00:26:35.180 oh, the U.S. is so bad
00:26:36.180 and Trump is so bad
00:26:37.100 and the U.S. people are dying
00:26:38.740 in huge numbers,
00:26:39.980 which they are.
00:26:40.680 I mean, it's the U.S.
00:26:41.700 is ahead of where we are
00:26:42.820 in Canada right now.
00:26:44.900 But all of these people are like,
00:26:46.340 why should we be offended
00:26:48.420 by a country
00:26:49.320 that has become the epicenter
00:26:51.040 saying, listen,
00:26:52.260 we need to keep our supply?
00:26:53.800 Now, what I will say
00:26:55.980 is that I think it's short-sighted
00:26:57.640 because I think that capacity
00:26:59.100 is increasing.
00:27:00.340 I do think there's enough
00:27:01.560 to go around,
00:27:02.420 assuming manufacturing's continuing.
00:27:04.600 And I also think
00:27:05.880 that it is very disheartening
00:27:07.660 when a government
00:27:09.080 is directing private enterprise.
00:27:11.120 Like, that was my bigger issue here.
00:27:12.820 Was the government saying to 3M,
00:27:15.000 you can't do this
00:27:16.120 when 3M wanted to.
00:27:17.800 So in that case,
00:27:18.780 but that's a separate issue.
00:27:20.040 No one was expressing
00:27:21.240 their displeasure
00:27:22.160 because it was like
00:27:23.140 violating the principle
00:27:24.300 of independent business.
00:27:26.060 They were all upset
00:27:26.800 because, oh, Canadians are so nice
00:27:28.540 and we've been so nice to you
00:27:29.740 and we love you
00:27:30.700 and why are you not doing it back?
00:27:32.300 It's like this Canadian
00:27:33.280 inferiority complex
00:27:34.840 that Canadians have,
00:27:36.420 which is like this constant desire
00:27:38.500 for American affection
00:27:40.140 gets very sad after a while.
00:27:42.820 And I think that what needs
00:27:44.320 to be taken from this
00:27:45.560 as we move forward
00:27:46.680 is the importance of Canada
00:27:48.700 putting Canada first
00:27:50.100 and Canada putting
00:27:51.520 the interests of Canada first.
00:27:54.480 And this national pride
00:27:56.080 and national independence
00:27:57.840 that is not protectionism.
00:27:59.380 I deplore protectionism,
00:28:01.220 but it's understanding
00:28:02.540 when things get tough,
00:28:04.120 you have to put
00:28:05.160 your own country's interests first
00:28:06.820 and that's what every country
00:28:08.200 around the world
00:28:08.980 should be doing
00:28:10.140 and it's what most
00:28:11.220 around the world are doing.
00:28:13.500 And to get mad
00:28:15.140 at another country
00:28:16.160 for doing that.
00:28:17.240 Now, don't get me wrong.
00:28:18.160 We can talk through it
00:28:19.120 and say, listen,
00:28:19.980 let's talk about numbers.
00:28:21.260 Let's find a solution.
00:28:22.980 Let's talk about
00:28:23.800 what we have for you
00:28:25.320 that you could repay us,
00:28:27.560 make it a trade.
00:28:29.280 You know, Spencer Fernando
00:28:30.160 had a great piece up there
00:28:31.360 on his website,
00:28:32.600 spencerfernando.com,
00:28:33.920 where he said,
00:28:34.400 if Trump wants to stop
00:28:35.360 shipping masks to Canada,
00:28:37.000 we can stop shipping
00:28:37.940 the pulp to make them.
00:28:39.420 And I think that's a great point.
00:28:40.860 And no one wants
00:28:41.820 a trade war
00:28:42.780 between allies
00:28:44.020 at a time
00:28:44.660 when they could be
00:28:45.280 working together.
00:28:46.240 But that is the inevitable
00:28:47.560 byproduct of it.
00:28:48.960 And I think that reinforces
00:28:50.580 the importance of trade
00:28:51.900 is that it is a two-way street
00:28:53.820 and it's not just about
00:28:55.660 the best of the U.S.
00:28:56.940 coming to Canada.
00:28:57.920 It's about stuff
00:28:59.060 going back and forth.
00:29:00.380 I forget the exact numbers,
00:29:01.960 but I read something
00:29:02.700 a while ago
00:29:03.360 about the number of times
00:29:05.220 that a car
00:29:05.940 has basically crossed
00:29:07.300 the border
00:29:07.740 before it ends up
00:29:08.720 in a driver's hands.
00:29:10.160 I mean, not physically,
00:29:11.220 but, you know,
00:29:11.840 this part, this part,
00:29:12.920 this part, this part,
00:29:13.780 and it all comes together.
00:29:15.820 So you can't disintegrate
00:29:18.320 that linkage
00:29:19.240 of those two economies,
00:29:20.800 nor should you.
00:29:21.780 But similarly,
00:29:22.540 you should never be offended
00:29:24.240 by a country
00:29:25.800 that wants to put
00:29:27.040 its own interests first.
00:29:28.200 In fact,
00:29:28.640 that type of attitude,
00:29:30.260 not the 3M thing
00:29:31.360 in specific terms,
00:29:32.860 but that general attitude
00:29:34.000 of a country
00:29:34.700 putting its own interests first
00:29:36.400 is what countries
00:29:37.700 should aspire to,
00:29:39.320 not what countries
00:29:40.480 should be repulsed
00:29:41.980 or repelled by.
00:29:44.320 We've got to take a break.
00:29:45.760 When we come back,
00:29:46.440 more of the Andrew Lawton Show
00:29:47.560 here on True North.
00:29:48.460 You're tuned in
00:29:51.260 to the Andrew Lawton Show.
00:29:57.680 As everyone is focused,
00:29:59.540 I think, justifiably
00:30:00.700 and gratefully
00:30:01.640 on the public health implications,
00:30:03.880 we have seen
00:30:04.960 this encroachment
00:30:06.040 of state power
00:30:07.080 that I think
00:30:07.760 is important to note here.
00:30:09.460 And interestingly enough,
00:30:10.580 the Canadian press
00:30:11.360 had a piece
00:30:12.100 that I thought
00:30:12.640 was very solid on this.
00:30:14.200 It was that
00:30:14.460 civil liberties groups
00:30:15.940 are saying,
00:30:16.700 remain vigilant
00:30:18.040 about your rights
00:30:18.940 even with everything
00:30:19.940 that's happening,
00:30:20.620 even with coronavirus
00:30:21.540 and COVID-19.
00:30:23.700 A human rights lawyer
00:30:25.180 from Montreal
00:30:25.860 had said
00:30:26.440 the Charter of Rights
00:30:27.540 and Freedoms
00:30:28.040 has not disappeared.
00:30:29.960 Government has more leeway,
00:30:31.440 but rights still exist.
00:30:33.160 Other liberties groups
00:30:34.240 as well
00:30:34.720 saying very similar things.
00:30:36.440 And it's important
00:30:37.380 because rights exist
00:30:39.020 insofar as
00:30:40.500 you have the ability
00:30:41.980 or should have the ability
00:30:42.940 to do everything
00:30:43.700 until it threatens
00:30:45.640 someone else's rights.
00:30:47.140 And that's where
00:30:47.740 I think public health measures
00:30:49.460 can be justified
00:30:50.340 from government.
00:30:51.860 But certain times
00:30:53.300 we're seeing
00:30:54.280 around the world,
00:30:55.080 not just in Canada,
00:30:56.000 around the world,
00:30:57.660 measures that
00:30:58.940 have no public health benefit
00:31:00.900 and are still going after
00:31:02.920 individual people's rights.
00:31:04.700 You know,
00:31:04.940 there was one that I saw
00:31:05.980 in Britain,
00:31:06.680 for example,
00:31:07.260 where two people
00:31:08.220 were having a barbecue
00:31:09.420 on a beach,
00:31:10.320 an empty beach.
00:31:11.220 They were social distancing
00:31:12.400 and police ended up
00:31:14.420 violating social distance
00:31:15.940 by getting right
00:31:16.680 in the couple's face
00:31:17.600 and then had to like
00:31:18.980 douse their barbecue
00:31:19.960 to get them to leave.
00:31:21.380 They had taken a helmet,
00:31:22.500 filled it with water
00:31:23.240 and threw it on there.
00:31:24.820 Now, again,
00:31:25.380 the beach was closed.
00:31:26.540 I get it.
00:31:27.980 But no one was benefiting
00:31:29.740 from that.
00:31:30.760 No one's health
00:31:31.540 benefited from that.
00:31:33.420 You see other stories,
00:31:34.500 especially in the UK,
00:31:35.940 by the way,
00:31:36.960 where this is happening.
00:31:38.460 A story in the New York Times,
00:31:39.880 police are using drones,
00:31:41.180 public shaming
00:31:42.580 and Easter egg bans
00:31:44.240 as they try to target
00:31:46.040 people that are breaking
00:31:47.300 these laws
00:31:48.280 and lockdown requests.
00:31:50.020 You have other stories
00:31:51.040 as well,
00:31:51.640 such as police getting mad
00:31:53.640 at those who are exercising
00:31:55.960 more than once a day.
00:31:57.740 So this is from BBC.
00:31:59.480 Nick Adderley
00:32:00.320 from Northamptonshire Police
00:32:01.900 has said that
00:32:02.580 they're getting dozens
00:32:03.540 and dozens of calls
00:32:04.640 about people ignoring
00:32:06.260 the order of taking
00:32:07.640 one form of exercise a day.
00:32:09.940 So that's it.
00:32:10.500 You get one form
00:32:12.060 of exercise a day
00:32:13.080 and what Mr. Adderley said
00:32:15.600 is we're getting calls
00:32:16.420 from people who say,
00:32:17.360 I think my neighbor
00:32:18.240 is going out
00:32:19.160 on a second run.
00:32:20.460 I want you to come
00:32:21.660 and arrest them.
00:32:23.060 Now, can you imagine
00:32:24.200 how joyless your life
00:32:25.880 must be
00:32:27.160 if you want to take
00:32:28.920 aim at someone
00:32:29.760 because they're going out
00:32:30.880 for a second run
00:32:31.960 when the government
00:32:32.840 has said you're only allowed
00:32:33.860 one run a day?
00:32:35.120 Now, this is assuming
00:32:36.260 that the streets
00:32:37.000 are open enough
00:32:37.860 that someone can run
00:32:39.160 and still be six feet away
00:32:40.460 on any direction
00:32:41.380 from other people.
00:32:43.240 But someone says,
00:32:44.100 hmm, you know,
00:32:44.540 I'm a pretty fit.
00:32:45.220 Like, again,
00:32:45.520 I could benefit from one run.
00:32:46.820 I could certainly benefit
00:32:47.680 from two runs.
00:32:48.700 I assure you
00:32:49.320 I'm not doing near my limit.
00:32:51.480 So some of these people
00:32:52.220 that want to do
00:32:52.720 two runs a day,
00:32:53.520 they can take my excess runs
00:32:54.980 if they'd like.
00:32:55.600 In fact, I hope they do.
00:32:57.260 But again,
00:32:57.760 the idea that this
00:32:58.880 has now facilitated
00:33:00.080 this snitch culture
00:33:01.420 I think is very dangerous
00:33:04.180 and I want to make
00:33:05.780 this point very carefully
00:33:06.960 because I understand
00:33:07.960 that we're all in this together
00:33:09.640 and I understand
00:33:10.660 it's annoying
00:33:11.340 as I've talked about
00:33:12.320 when you do your part
00:33:13.360 and someone else
00:33:14.120 doesn't do theirs.
00:33:15.480 Like, I joked about
00:33:16.520 being on a path
00:33:17.860 for a walk last week
00:33:18.980 and I take three feet
00:33:20.240 in one way
00:33:21.300 assuming they're going to
00:33:22.460 take three feet
00:33:23.060 the other way
00:33:23.600 and they don't.
00:33:24.620 And this happened
00:33:25.140 to me yesterday,
00:33:25.840 by the way.
00:33:26.220 My wife and I
00:33:26.760 went out for a walk.
00:33:27.920 We're walking
00:33:28.600 down the sidewalk.
00:33:29.940 Two people,
00:33:30.580 young females
00:33:31.700 are walking towards us.
00:33:33.280 We kind of veer
00:33:34.380 to the right
00:33:35.120 just to give them space
00:33:36.600 and they continue
00:33:37.760 straight down
00:33:38.800 as though nothing's going on
00:33:40.340 and it was actually
00:33:41.440 quite ignorant.
00:33:42.360 It was actually
00:33:42.920 quite ignorant
00:33:43.520 because even if you
00:33:44.280 don't believe in
00:33:45.380 all the panic
00:33:46.660 and hysteria,
00:33:47.740 it's a very easy
00:33:49.300 thing to do
00:33:50.260 out of respect
00:33:51.260 for those around you
00:33:52.240 to just walk
00:33:53.160 three feet
00:33:54.260 in one direction
00:33:55.060 and people aren't
00:33:56.100 doing that.
00:33:56.620 So I get it.
00:33:57.440 It's an annoyance
00:33:58.240 but I would never
00:33:59.420 snitch on
00:34:00.500 people
00:34:00.900 if they're not
00:34:02.000 putting others
00:34:02.780 in jeopardy.
00:34:04.480 You know,
00:34:04.860 I've seen parks now
00:34:05.900 that have yellow tape
00:34:07.280 around them.
00:34:07.780 If I were to see
00:34:08.440 someone playing
00:34:09.120 with their kids
00:34:09.760 in a park
00:34:10.260 and the park
00:34:11.000 was technically closed,
00:34:12.980 why do I care?
00:34:14.000 If there's no one
00:34:14.740 else there,
00:34:15.180 they're not breaking
00:34:15.840 the rules.
00:34:16.560 They're not breaking
00:34:17.160 the spirit of the rules
00:34:18.440 because the problem
00:34:19.560 is these rules
00:34:20.440 are being made
00:34:21.800 on the back of napkins.
00:34:23.040 They're being done
00:34:23.580 very quickly
00:34:24.300 and there is a gap
00:34:26.120 that is growing
00:34:26.800 between the spirit
00:34:27.780 of the law
00:34:28.360 and the letter
00:34:28.900 of the law
00:34:29.460 and I don't think
00:34:30.440 you can entirely
00:34:31.240 have the letter
00:34:32.160 of the law
00:34:32.780 meet what we're
00:34:34.260 supposed to do
00:34:35.100 as a society
00:34:35.920 right now
00:34:36.540 and that's the issue.
00:34:37.960 So I do think
00:34:38.840 that, you know,
00:34:39.580 stupid laws
00:34:40.300 in some case
00:34:40.940 are meant to be broken
00:34:41.760 but I also think
00:34:42.520 more importantly
00:34:43.200 if you are not
00:34:44.480 doing anything
00:34:45.300 reckless
00:34:45.780 then who cares?
00:34:48.040 Who are these
00:34:48.700 busybodies
00:34:49.380 that want to rat
00:34:50.300 out people
00:34:50.840 that aren't
00:34:51.380 doing anything wrong?
00:34:53.360 So that's where
00:34:54.280 my frustration
00:34:55.100 is on this
00:34:56.080 and certainly
00:34:56.860 in Britain
00:34:57.420 which has always
00:34:58.240 been the worst
00:34:58.940 place in the world
00:35:00.560 for busybody cops
00:35:01.640 we're seeing a lot
00:35:02.700 more of this
00:35:03.280 but I fear
00:35:04.320 we're going to see
00:35:05.100 more of that
00:35:05.620 in Canada as well
00:35:06.600 because Canadians
00:35:07.280 do not have
00:35:08.180 this ironclad grip
00:35:09.860 on civil liberties.
00:35:10.880 In fact,
00:35:11.240 it's interesting
00:35:11.920 because I've got
00:35:12.680 a lot of friends
00:35:13.200 in the US
00:35:13.640 and friends in Canada
00:35:14.660 of course
00:35:15.120 I mean I don't
00:35:15.760 have a lot of friends
00:35:16.380 but people I know
00:35:17.420 and it's a joke
00:35:19.200 don't worry.
00:35:19.680 the interesting
00:35:21.640 dynamic
00:35:22.340 is that
00:35:23.200 what Canadians
00:35:24.240 will go along
00:35:25.120 with
00:35:25.520 when Canada
00:35:26.660 isn't actually
00:35:27.340 as far gone
00:35:28.340 as the US
00:35:28.960 is as far
00:35:29.560 as coronavirus
00:35:30.100 goes
00:35:30.760 versus what
00:35:31.840 Americans
00:35:32.320 who have
00:35:33.340 more of an
00:35:34.080 issue right now
00:35:35.000 with the virus
00:35:35.880 will push back
00:35:37.740 against
00:35:38.060 it's a very
00:35:38.640 interesting dynamic
00:35:39.680 because Americans
00:35:40.760 love them
00:35:41.520 or hate them
00:35:41.940 love their rights
00:35:43.120 and they love
00:35:43.720 their freedom
00:35:44.260 and they are
00:35:45.020 not going to
00:35:45.680 take a
00:35:46.320 state-ordered
00:35:47.240 lockdown
00:35:47.940 lying down.
00:35:49.680 Whereas Canadians
00:35:50.800 will willfully
00:35:51.640 hand everything
00:35:52.260 over
00:35:52.560 that's one
00:35:53.460 of the larger
00:35:54.120 contrasts
00:35:54.960 between these
00:35:55.460 two countries
00:35:56.080 and I'm
00:35:56.960 seeing it
00:35:57.540 more accentuated
00:35:58.600 now.
00:35:59.840 So yes
00:36:00.660 there has to
00:36:01.300 be a balancing
00:36:01.940 act
00:36:02.340 I think the
00:36:02.880 valid argument
00:36:03.640 that that
00:36:04.200 CP story
00:36:05.120 put out
00:36:05.580 you should
00:36:06.180 never lose
00:36:06.700 sight of
00:36:06.980 your rights
00:36:07.420 even if
00:36:08.300 things become
00:36:08.880 more malleable
00:36:09.640 the rights
00:36:10.220 themselves
00:36:10.780 are firm
00:36:11.440 but my
00:36:12.640 goodness
00:36:13.180 when I
00:36:13.800 see police
00:36:14.880 that are
00:36:15.480 going after
00:36:16.380 people
00:36:16.720 and again
00:36:17.320 for police
00:36:18.240 to enforce
00:36:19.000 these things
00:36:19.780 requires them
00:36:21.100 to violate
00:36:22.080 the social
00:36:23.120 distancing
00:36:23.600 that the
00:36:24.060 supposed
00:36:24.460 scoff law
00:36:25.340 isn't
00:36:25.740 violating
00:36:26.300 and it's
00:36:27.960 the same
00:36:28.300 as masks
00:36:28.980 look the
00:36:29.620 Canadian
00:36:29.940 government
00:36:30.360 has been
00:36:30.840 saying no
00:36:31.460 masks
00:36:31.940 no masks
00:36:32.580 no masks
00:36:33.140 you don't
00:36:33.440 need them
00:36:33.720 unless you're
00:36:34.200 sick
00:36:34.440 then they
00:36:35.240 were talking
00:36:35.740 about asymptomatic
00:36:36.580 transmission
00:36:37.220 the risk
00:36:38.040 there being
00:36:38.640 that if you
00:36:39.420 have the virus
00:36:40.200 and don't
00:36:40.600 know you
00:36:40.920 have it
00:36:41.240 you can
00:36:41.500 still spread
00:36:42.060 it
00:36:42.240 and now
00:36:43.280 it seems
00:36:43.780 like the
00:36:44.160 Canadian
00:36:44.560 government
00:36:45.020 is even
00:36:45.460 waffling
00:36:46.140 on the
00:36:47.100 mask
00:36:47.580 this is
00:36:48.100 a page
00:36:48.860 from the
00:36:49.220 government
00:36:49.480 of Canada
00:36:49.900 website
00:36:50.440 considerations
00:36:51.300 in the
00:36:52.080 use of
00:36:52.540 homemade
00:36:53.000 masks
00:36:53.560 to protect
00:36:54.400 against
00:36:54.740 COVID-19
00:36:55.520 they're
00:36:56.200 talking about
00:36:56.760 people that
00:36:57.180 are making
00:36:57.600 their own
00:36:58.060 masks
00:36:58.520 out of
00:36:58.940 cloth
00:36:59.420 or they're
00:37:00.020 you know
00:37:00.280 maybe using
00:37:00.840 a scarf
00:37:01.340 or something
00:37:01.900 and they're
00:37:03.620 saying that
00:37:04.000 they're not
00:37:04.300 medical devices
00:37:05.100 they're not
00:37:05.600 regulated
00:37:06.120 they haven't
00:37:06.620 been tested
00:37:07.140 all of the
00:37:07.680 disclaimers
00:37:08.300 that you need
00:37:08.720 to get out
00:37:09.100 of the way
00:37:09.480 but then
00:37:10.460 interestingly
00:37:10.960 enough
00:37:11.240 they say
00:37:11.680 if you are
00:37:12.540 a healthy
00:37:13.060 individual
00:37:13.780 the use
00:37:14.360 of a
00:37:14.620 mask
00:37:14.940 is not
00:37:15.600 recommended
00:37:16.500 for preventing
00:37:17.160 the spread
00:37:17.620 of COVID-19
00:37:18.500 wearing a
00:37:19.460 mask
00:37:19.740 when you're
00:37:20.040 not ill
00:37:20.440 may give
00:37:21.120 you a
00:37:21.520 false
00:37:21.840 sense
00:37:22.160 of security
00:37:22.800 there is
00:37:23.520 a potential
00:37:24.160 risk of
00:37:24.780 infection
00:37:25.240 with improper
00:37:26.700 mask
00:37:27.520 use
00:37:27.980 and
00:37:28.200 disposal
00:37:28.700 they also
00:37:30.620 need to
00:37:31.080 be changed
00:37:31.580 frequently
00:37:32.100 so this
00:37:33.580 mask
00:37:34.080 thing is
00:37:34.600 absolutely
00:37:35.260 insane
00:37:35.840 and in
00:37:36.260 fact the
00:37:36.620 point that
00:37:37.120 I had
00:37:37.460 raised
00:37:38.040 last week
00:37:39.300 and I'm
00:37:39.600 not a
00:37:39.900 doctor by
00:37:40.440 any
00:37:40.820 stretch
00:37:41.220 in fact
00:37:41.520 I know
00:37:41.760 very little
00:37:42.320 about
00:37:42.640 the things
00:37:43.480 that the
00:37:43.840 so-called
00:37:44.240 experts
00:37:44.800 know about
00:37:45.580 was that
00:37:46.880 if we have
00:37:48.400 asymptomatic
00:37:48.980 transmission
00:37:49.580 and if we
00:37:50.360 have all
00:37:50.700 of these
00:37:51.040 cases where
00:37:52.020 people could
00:37:52.480 be transmitting
00:37:53.140 the virus
00:37:53.640 but don't
00:37:54.080 know they
00:37:54.380 have the
00:37:54.900 virus
00:37:55.280 then it
00:37:56.040 stands to
00:37:56.840 reason that
00:37:57.500 wearing a
00:37:58.040 mask would
00:37:58.440 be a good
00:37:58.800 precaution
00:37:59.420 in the
00:38:00.080 better than
00:38:00.620 nothing column
00:38:01.320 and I
00:38:01.580 thought this
00:38:01.940 was entirely
00:38:02.840 sensible
00:38:03.520 it was just
00:38:04.120 based on
00:38:04.580 logic
00:38:05.080 it wasn't
00:38:05.520 based on
00:38:05.940 having a
00:38:06.400 medical
00:38:06.680 degree
00:38:07.100 and the
00:38:07.780 federal
00:38:08.000 government
00:38:08.420 still said
00:38:08.920 oh no
00:38:09.220 no
00:38:09.340 we don't
00:38:09.980 recommend
00:38:10.540 masks
00:38:11.080 and then
00:38:11.980 Monday
00:38:12.660 comes
00:38:13.320 and
00:38:13.820 Teresa
00:38:14.280 Tam
00:38:14.800 after
00:38:15.320 everyone
00:38:15.620 was given
00:38:15.920 a bit
00:38:16.120 of a
00:38:16.320 heads
00:38:16.540 up
00:38:16.720 by
00:38:16.900 Justin
00:38:17.240 Trudeau
00:38:17.720 gets on
00:38:18.600 there
00:38:18.740 and reverses
00:38:19.800 everything the
00:38:20.820 Canadian government
00:38:21.580 has been saying
00:38:22.380 in fact everything
00:38:23.020 she's been saying
00:38:24.140 for the last
00:38:25.300 several weeks
00:38:26.380 let's roll
00:38:26.820 this clip
00:38:27.340 she said everything
00:38:48.880 that I said last
00:38:49.700 week
00:38:50.040 now I'm not
00:38:50.860 saying that
00:38:51.680 she was taking
00:38:52.640 her cues from
00:38:53.320 me
00:38:53.580 just that
00:38:54.380 everyone in
00:38:55.260 the world
00:38:55.900 could figure
00:38:56.560 this out
00:38:57.080 except for
00:38:58.040 Canada's
00:38:58.800 public health
00:38:59.780 officials
00:39:00.200 apparently
00:39:00.740 they're following
00:39:01.660 CDC
00:39:02.180 they're following
00:39:02.880 countries that
00:39:03.580 have had
00:39:03.900 successful
00:39:04.480 track records
00:39:05.960 at mitigating
00:39:06.840 the virus
00:39:07.380 like Taiwan
00:39:08.060 and South
00:39:08.660 Korea
00:39:09.020 and Japan
00:39:09.860 they're following
00:39:11.000 all of these
00:39:11.680 people that
00:39:12.120 figured this
00:39:12.560 out weeks
00:39:13.040 ago
00:39:13.300 and only now
00:39:13.860 are saying
00:39:14.180 well yeah
00:39:14.600 we think
00:39:15.320 that masks
00:39:15.780 might be
00:39:16.120 helpful to
00:39:16.580 prevent
00:39:16.860 people from
00:39:17.600 transmitting
00:39:18.380 oh my
00:39:19.640 goodness
00:39:20.180 so the
00:39:21.920 issues there
00:39:22.700 and we
00:39:23.000 talked about
00:39:23.740 this last
00:39:24.300 week with
00:39:24.720 Teresa Tam's
00:39:25.600 verbal pretzel
00:39:26.440 answer on
00:39:27.080 this
00:39:27.260 the issue
00:39:28.460 has nothing
00:39:29.260 to do with
00:39:29.800 masks not
00:39:30.780 working
00:39:31.380 the issue
00:39:32.580 is that
00:39:33.220 masks need
00:39:34.220 to be used
00:39:34.900 properly
00:39:35.560 and not
00:39:36.720 reused over
00:39:37.580 and over
00:39:37.920 if you're
00:39:38.420 going to
00:39:38.900 use them
00:39:39.440 and you
00:39:39.960 know when
00:39:40.500 I talked
00:39:41.220 in my
00:39:41.880 most recent
00:39:42.580 episode about
00:39:43.360 the tyranny
00:39:43.900 of experts
00:39:44.440 this is what
00:39:45.220 I'm talking
00:39:45.740 about the
00:39:46.160 fact that
00:39:46.540 the expertise
00:39:47.140 isn't even
00:39:48.080 staying as
00:39:49.300 static as
00:39:50.700 science is
00:39:51.320 supposed to
00:39:52.000 stay or as
00:39:53.080 you know what
00:39:53.500 truth is supposed
00:39:54.340 to be and
00:39:55.380 we're just
00:39:55.920 going all
00:39:56.460 willy-nilly
00:39:56.940 all over the
00:39:57.600 map with it
00:39:58.160 you know
00:39:58.660 Andrew Scheer
00:39:59.400 did a press
00:40:00.220 conference and
00:40:00.740 I was calling
00:40:01.320 into it and
00:40:02.220 I asked about
00:40:02.900 this do you
00:40:03.580 have faith in
00:40:04.460 the experts
00:40:05.320 that Justin
00:40:06.840 Trudeau has
00:40:08.300 relied on
00:40:09.180 every step of
00:40:09.760 the way
00:40:09.980 this is that
00:40:10.660 exchange with
00:40:11.240 Andrew Scheer
00:40:12.320 Good morning
00:40:12.800 Mr. Scheer
00:40:13.420 going back
00:40:14.040 to January
00:40:14.940 it seems like
00:40:15.940 there's been a
00:40:16.360 lot of conflicting
00:40:17.080 information from
00:40:18.180 public health
00:40:19.220 originally we were
00:40:20.040 told by Dr.
00:40:20.960 Theresa Tam
00:40:21.600 there was no
00:40:22.180 real risk to
00:40:22.940 Canadians
00:40:23.420 at one point
00:40:24.700 she was more
00:40:25.380 focused on
00:40:26.260 promoting an
00:40:27.500 anti-racism
00:40:28.220 strategy with
00:40:28.960 coronavirus
00:40:29.460 and then of
00:40:30.860 course we had
00:40:31.460 advice from
00:40:32.000 public health
00:40:32.580 that travel
00:40:33.520 bans were
00:40:34.340 ineffective
00:40:34.820 and would be
00:40:35.320 bad ideas
00:40:36.040 and this past
00:40:37.000 week and perhaps
00:40:38.400 two weeks
00:40:38.900 there's been
00:40:39.360 confusion about
00:40:40.360 whether masks
00:40:41.520 for just
00:40:42.520 average Canadians
00:40:43.380 going to the
00:40:44.280 grocery stores
00:40:45.000 are important
00:40:45.740 but I guess
00:40:46.060 the question
00:40:46.480 is do you
00:40:46.900 have faith
00:40:47.500 in our
00:40:48.240 public health
00:40:48.820 officials at
00:40:49.400 this time?
00:40:50.860 Well like
00:40:51.180 many Canadians
00:40:51.880 I'm always
00:40:52.840 concerned when
00:40:53.600 we're told
00:40:54.140 one thing
00:40:55.020 one week
00:40:55.600 and then
00:40:56.000 something
00:40:56.500 completely
00:40:56.920 different
00:40:57.320 just a few
00:40:58.440 days later
00:40:58.960 conservatives
00:40:59.700 were calling
00:41:00.260 for travel
00:41:01.340 restrictions
00:41:01.900 to be put
00:41:02.820 in place
00:41:03.360 from countries
00:41:04.640 where there
00:41:05.880 had been
00:41:06.140 experience
00:41:06.780 from countries
00:41:08.720 who had
00:41:08.920 experienced a
00:41:09.480 surge
00:41:09.740 in the
00:41:10.380 number of
00:41:10.760 cases
00:41:11.020 of course
00:41:11.400 the government
00:41:11.740 told us
00:41:12.160 that wasn't
00:41:12.660 necessary
00:41:13.100 only to do
00:41:14.380 the exact
00:41:15.140 same thing
00:41:15.600 just a few
00:41:16.060 days later
00:41:16.640 so this is
00:41:17.260 why we believe
00:41:17.940 it's so important
00:41:18.680 to have regular
00:41:19.740 accountability sessions
00:41:20.720 in the House of Commons
00:41:21.840 so that we can
00:41:22.460 find out exactly
00:41:23.380 why decisions
00:41:24.860 are made
00:41:25.300 and why
00:41:25.980 directions
00:41:27.240 are changed
00:41:29.300 in a short
00:41:30.500 period of time
00:41:30.940 we can hold
00:41:31.480 officials responsible
00:41:32.820 for that
00:41:33.460 and we can get
00:41:34.180 a better understanding
00:41:34.920 from ministers
00:41:35.480 so that's why
00:41:36.080 we are pushing
00:41:36.720 for regular
00:41:38.120 accountability
00:41:38.820 and oversight
00:41:39.660 sessions
00:41:40.960 in the House
00:41:41.640 of Commons
00:41:42.160 that is the
00:41:42.640 best place
00:41:43.200 to hold
00:41:44.020 ministers
00:41:44.380 responsible
00:41:44.900 for their
00:41:45.420 departments
00:41:45.760 and for the
00:41:46.180 actions of
00:41:46.660 the officials
00:41:47.240 who report
00:41:48.420 to them
00:41:49.220 we believe
00:41:50.280 that it is
00:41:51.000 with extra
00:41:52.120 scrutiny
00:41:52.700 with peer review
00:41:54.320 with a better
00:41:55.240 understanding
00:41:55.780 of the thinking
00:41:56.280 that goes on
00:41:56.960 behind the decisions
00:41:58.260 that we can get
00:41:59.040 the best outcomes
00:41:59.720 for Canadians
00:42:00.300 and that's part
00:42:00.860 of this team
00:42:01.440 Canada approach
00:42:02.640 that we are
00:42:03.860 fully cooperative
00:42:04.740 with
00:42:05.340 that we are
00:42:06.160 excited to be
00:42:06.900 a part of
00:42:07.380 we believe
00:42:08.100 the best place
00:42:08.740 for that team
00:42:09.380 Canada approach
00:42:10.180 is in the
00:42:10.580 House of Commons
00:42:11.200 in the Chamber
00:42:11.740 where ministers
00:42:13.000 can be held
00:42:13.980 accountable
00:42:14.640 for their
00:42:15.040 decisions
00:42:15.400 and they can
00:42:15.840 provide greater
00:42:17.000 clarity
00:42:17.520 as to the
00:42:18.380 government's
00:42:18.680 response to
00:42:19.240 this crisis
00:42:19.780 you know I
00:42:20.380 thought he
00:42:20.740 made a very
00:42:21.640 solid point
00:42:22.340 there
00:42:22.560 look I mean
00:42:23.040 yes we have
00:42:24.900 to approach
00:42:25.620 this with
00:42:26.080 skepticism
00:42:26.760 just because
00:42:27.760 they are experts
00:42:28.680 and just because
00:42:29.320 they're not
00:42:29.720 political figures
00:42:30.760 and they're not
00:42:31.320 politicians
00:42:31.840 doesn't mean
00:42:32.800 that we should
00:42:33.260 accept everything
00:42:34.000 at pardon the pun
00:42:35.180 face value
00:42:35.940 or face mask
00:42:36.700 value
00:42:37.140 so I don't
00:42:38.800 know what's
00:42:39.580 going to happen
00:42:40.340 in the coming
00:42:41.080 days what I do
00:42:42.200 know is that
00:42:42.980 at this point
00:42:44.000 any of these
00:42:44.720 recommendations
00:42:45.280 from the
00:42:45.960 government
00:42:46.300 you shouldn't
00:42:47.380 ignore
00:42:48.040 but you should
00:42:49.360 take with a
00:42:50.520 healthy dose
00:42:51.220 of skepticism
00:42:52.020 given that
00:42:52.580 they're going to
00:42:53.260 be all over
00:42:53.760 the map as
00:42:54.260 well I mean if
00:42:54.900 you can get a
00:42:55.400 mask for yourself
00:42:56.080 or you want to
00:42:56.620 wear a mask
00:42:57.080 it's not going
00:42:57.660 to hurt you
00:42:58.360 at this point
00:42:59.460 if you're doing
00:43:00.060 it the right way
00:43:01.440 and you're not
00:43:01.980 you know handling
00:43:03.220 it and touching
00:43:03.840 your face
00:43:04.340 and all of that
00:43:04.880 stuff
00:43:05.140 but interestingly
00:43:06.680 what they even
00:43:07.200 said is you know
00:43:08.060 if you're not
00:43:08.660 going to if it's
00:43:09.560 going to prevent
00:43:10.100 you from touching
00:43:10.700 your face and
00:43:11.240 nose that it's a
00:43:11.920 positive so
00:43:12.900 already what was
00:43:13.920 originally this
00:43:14.660 unequivocal no you
00:43:16.500 don't need a mask
00:43:17.500 is now littered with
00:43:19.240 all of these
00:43:19.800 conditions that makes
00:43:20.800 you wonder whether
00:43:21.540 it was ever solid
00:43:22.660 medical advice in
00:43:24.120 the first place and
00:43:25.280 we're going to see
00:43:25.960 more of these we're
00:43:27.160 going to see more
00:43:27.900 of these so I
00:43:28.860 mean when all of
00:43:29.420 this stuff was
00:43:30.140 happening with
00:43:30.700 Trump and 3M
00:43:31.660 and Canada
00:43:32.200 and the masks
00:43:33.180 and I'm like you
00:43:33.760 know the issue
00:43:34.920 is full stop
00:43:36.280 the Canadian
00:43:36.940 government doesn't
00:43:38.680 want there to be
00:43:39.960 a shortage of
00:43:40.720 masks that is
00:43:41.600 prolonged because
00:43:42.920 everyone who's
00:43:43.720 leaving home wants
00:43:44.760 a mask and I
00:43:45.420 get that and I
00:43:46.640 get that a
00:43:47.020 healthcare worker
00:43:47.660 is more in need
00:43:48.900 of it than I
00:43:49.540 am I think that's
00:43:50.720 entirely valid to
00:43:51.900 say but you
00:43:52.900 can't fudge the
00:43:55.020 data just to
00:43:57.220 achieve that
00:43:57.980 outcome which it
00:43:58.840 seems like was
00:43:59.980 happening here you
00:44:00.660 can't fudge the
00:44:01.340 data just because
00:44:02.060 you want to make
00:44:02.700 it so that not
00:44:04.220 everyone else is
00:44:06.200 going to have these
00:44:06.820 masks when you want
00:44:07.560 them for healthcare
00:44:08.160 workers you know
00:44:09.320 there have been
00:44:09.980 some bizarre lines
00:44:11.980 that have been
00:44:12.360 drawn here on
00:44:13.580 this and a lot a
00:44:14.980 lot of the so-called
00:44:15.980 woke brigade I
00:44:16.980 think have had to
00:44:17.760 suspend their
00:44:19.220 wokeness such as in
00:44:20.340 San Francisco where
00:44:21.420 the ban on plastic
00:44:23.460 bags has now been
00:44:24.340 reversed and not
00:44:25.740 just reversed replaced
00:44:26.920 with a ban on
00:44:28.120 reusable bags so
00:44:29.680 there's a Sobeys
00:44:31.020 near me and I
00:44:31.900 actually wanted to
00:44:32.800 boycott the Sobeys
00:44:33.800 when they put a
00:44:35.600 ban on plastic
00:44:36.320 bags I think it
00:44:37.240 was January or
00:44:38.180 February it was
00:44:38.560 earlier this year
00:44:39.200 anyway and I
00:44:40.740 didn't really get
00:44:41.300 the chance to
00:44:41.920 because now it's
00:44:43.480 like the closest
00:44:44.040 grocery store and
00:44:44.800 they have toilet
00:44:45.320 paper sometimes but
00:44:46.620 the interesting thing
00:44:47.480 about it is that
00:44:48.460 Sobeys is between a
00:44:49.700 rock and a hard
00:44:50.300 place because in
00:44:51.320 Canada they got
00:44:52.140 rid of plastic bags
00:44:53.140 and now the only way
00:44:54.560 to shop there is to
00:44:55.440 bring your germ
00:44:56.240 laden and your
00:44:58.280 reusable bags in
00:44:59.260 there and they've
00:44:59.980 got these really
00:45:00.600 you know cheap
00:45:01.440 crappy paper bags
00:45:02.420 you can buy but
00:45:03.220 you know if you're
00:45:03.700 going to buy a bag
00:45:04.340 you want it to be
00:45:04.880 one that's not
00:45:05.460 going to rip before
00:45:06.740 you get to the
00:45:07.260 car so that was a
00:45:09.080 I think an
00:45:09.440 interesting dynamic
00:45:10.360 also in India
00:45:12.200 twins born during
00:45:13.480 the pandemic have
00:45:14.260 been given names
00:45:15.280 COVID and Corona
00:45:17.120 now this is not
00:45:18.600 even just about
00:45:19.460 whether or not
00:45:21.120 they were conceived
00:45:22.600 because they were
00:45:23.480 already conceived
00:45:24.200 nine months before
00:45:25.040 the pandemic but
00:45:26.340 still born during
00:45:27.220 this time COVID
00:45:28.160 and Corona are
00:45:29.420 their names take
00:45:30.860 from that whatever
00:45:31.380 you will the
00:45:32.580 Malaysian government
00:45:33.800 apologizes for
00:45:35.620 advising women to
00:45:37.640 wear makeup and
00:45:38.940 not nag during
00:45:40.440 lockdown now out of
00:45:42.180 interest for my life
00:45:43.560 and my health and
00:45:44.240 my well-being I will
00:45:45.020 not comment on the
00:45:45.780 story your mileage
00:45:47.000 may vary a
00:45:48.000 Malaysian government
00:45:48.700 apologizes though so
00:45:49.940 even the Malaysian
00:45:50.980 government whoever
00:45:52.080 made that order was
00:45:52.980 presumably nagged by
00:45:54.140 his unmade up wife
00:45:55.880 after to such a
00:45:57.460 point that he could
00:45:58.140 withdraw that advice
00:45:59.700 that was given there
00:46:00.700 it was actually kind of
00:46:01.980 funny because everyone
00:46:03.220 has suspended their
00:46:04.120 rules of you know I
00:46:06.100 think standard grooming
00:46:06.960 men and women so you
00:46:08.600 can't just target the
00:46:09.400 one in that case I have
00:46:10.880 to go on camera so I
00:46:11.940 have to put on a shirt
00:46:12.760 but am I wearing pants
00:46:13.780 find out next week we
00:46:15.340 will have to wrap it up
00:46:16.460 there my thanks to all
00:46:17.480 of you for tuning in to
00:46:18.760 the show we'll be back
00:46:19.960 in just a couple of days
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00:46:22.180 show here on true
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00:46:24.060 bless stay healthy
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