Juno News - Politburo Patty, Chinese Lies, and the Politics of Masks

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's most irreverent talk show.

00:00:06.740 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.

00:00:13.100 Coming up, Canada's appeasement of China, 0.97

00:00:15.900 why countries need to put their own interests first,

00:00:18.380 and why the Canadian government still doesn't know what to do about masks.

00:00:24.180 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.

00:00:30.880 First they came for the humans, and then they came for the tigers.

00:00:35.140 Yeah, not even animals, not even God's beloved creatures are safe from COVID-19 now.

00:00:41.800 A tiger from the Bronx Zoo tested positive for coronavirus.

00:00:45.740 Everyone is wondering if this is now the next frontier of COVID-19,

00:00:50.080 or if this is in fact part of the grand Carole Baskin Tiger King conspiracy

00:00:55.060 that has been, of course, consuming all of us in our lockdowns as we watch Netflix's The Tiger King.

00:01:01.720 I am very ashamed to report to you on this day that I have fallen victim to the greatest Netflix fad ever.

00:01:08.700 I have watched Tiger King.

00:01:10.780 Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show, everyone.

00:01:12.840 Good to have you here on Canada's most irreverent talk show on True North.

00:01:17.340 Yeah, I buckled down and did it.

00:01:19.660 There were a couple of reasons for it.

00:01:21.180 Number one, I was very nervous that I was just going to run out of everything to watch on Netflix.

00:01:28.360 There's the show that I do watch, that I do love, that I was waiting for a new season of,

00:01:33.100 and it just came out on the weekend.

00:01:34.840 But before then, before then, I was like,

00:01:37.100 okay, there are all these movies that I've seen, and the stuff that I haven't seen,

00:01:40.460 it's because I'm not interested in.

00:01:42.020 And it's not even like I watch a huge amount of TV anyway,

00:01:45.580 but you just, it's harder to grab me now than it used to be.

00:01:49.840 It's harder to grab me with a show.

00:01:51.940 So I was like, all right, I'm out of things to watch.

00:01:55.280 So this Tiger King thing, you know, at the very least, if it seems crazy,

00:01:58.620 the videography is nice because you get to look at the, you know, the big jungle kitties.

00:02:02.800 And then it got to the point where I was seeing,

00:02:05.060 every time I logged on to Facebook or Twitter,

00:02:07.220 I was seeing memes from the Tiger King or about the Tiger King,

00:02:12.040 and I didn't get any of them.

00:02:13.360 And at first, I was like, who on earth is this giant mulleted man 0.99

00:02:16.760 that everyone's posting pictures of?

00:02:18.660 Why on earth is everyone talking about Carole Baskin?

00:02:21.000 What's a Carole Baskin? 1.00

00:02:22.400 And then I'm like, you know what?

00:02:23.300 I'm not one of these people that typically gets a full case of FOMO,

00:02:27.100 fear of missing out.

00:02:28.320 Like, I'm one of these people, and it's not that I'm a snob,

00:02:30.500 but I can be like, yeah, you know, you guys can do your thing,

00:02:32.500 and I'm not worried about it.

00:02:34.120 But with this one, I was like, I have to figure out what it is everyone's talking about.

00:02:38.980 So I watched the Tiger King.

00:02:40.440 At the end of it, I can't say that my life is any more edified than it was before.

00:02:45.960 If anything, I think I've regressed a little bit,

00:02:48.920 but at least I know what everyone's talking about and joking about online.

00:02:52.640 So, and by the way, I definitely think Carole Baskin did it,

00:02:55.440 lest there be any doubt.

00:02:57.440 Interestingly, OJ Simpson put out a Twitter video in which he said the same thing.

00:03:01.720 So OJ Simpson does know best about who's guilty and who's innocent.

00:03:05.800 But the serious story I mentioned at the beginning, a tiger has tested positive,

00:03:11.480 according to U.S. officials, for coronavirus.

00:03:14.240 This is a tiger at the Bronx Zoo and the first known infection in an animal in the U.S.

00:03:21.220 And this is really interesting and dangerous.

00:03:24.300 Now, it's unsurprising in some respects that an animal could contract this

00:03:28.560 because we think this whole thing came from an animal in the first place,

00:03:32.360 whether it was a bat or a pangolin or something, not a penguin, a pangolin.

00:03:36.600 I realize that you need to enunciate that word because everyone's going to be like,

00:03:39.840 I didn't know they had penguins in Wuhan.

00:03:41.440 But people know that there was some animal transmission.

00:03:45.340 But, you know, I was even thinking as I'm in lockdown,

00:03:48.200 can I like go and play with my parents' dog, for example,

00:03:51.780 as a way to break up the monotony of lockdown.

00:03:54.420 And now I realize even that might be not allowed because, you know,

00:03:58.060 the dog could be a silent asymptomatic carrier of coronavirus.

00:04:03.020 But the tiger, four years old Malayan tiger named Nadia

00:04:06.720 and six other tigers and lions have also fallen ill.

00:04:10.620 They were believed to have been infected by a zoo employee who was asymptomatic.

00:04:16.500 So this is huge.

00:04:18.060 Now, the animals are fine.

00:04:19.440 They're expected to recover.

00:04:20.660 The zoo has been closed anyway.

00:04:22.020 But this means that the carriage and transmission of the virus

00:04:26.460 has just another avenue that people might not have been preparing against.

00:04:31.840 And dogs, you know, like, again, we're talking about things that are unlikely and rare,

00:04:36.880 but still possible.

00:04:38.060 Could you give it to your dog?

00:04:40.220 You take your dog for a walk.

00:04:41.660 The dog gives it to another dog.

00:04:43.280 That dog gives it to an owner.

00:04:44.980 And what's that old song?

00:04:46.000 And the green grass grew all around, all around.

00:04:48.020 And the green grass grew all around.

00:04:49.480 Like, you come up with all of these obscure and convoluted things.

00:04:53.260 But it's possible.

00:04:54.300 It is absolutely possible.

00:04:56.400 And sometimes freak accidents happen.

00:04:59.300 So I don't think this adds anything to the fear.

00:05:02.340 What I think it reinforces is what we were talking about on the show last week,

00:05:06.040 which is the importance of understanding asymptomatic transmission

00:05:09.860 as public health officials in Canada continue to say,

00:05:13.420 oh, you don't need a mask, you shouldn't wear a mask.

00:05:15.340 A mask is only valid or valuable if you have COVID-19.

00:05:19.900 And we'll talk about how the federal government in Canada

00:05:22.340 seems to be wavering on that in a little bit.

00:05:25.300 But I want to begin by talking about Politburo Patti Haidu,

00:05:30.520 alternatively Hanoi Haidu, the health minister in Canada,

00:05:34.020 who appears to have her top priority,

00:05:36.600 not as the public health of Canadians,

00:05:38.660 but of the appeasement of the Chinese regime.

00:05:41.680 Now, this is something that is so unconscionable.

00:05:45.000 And I know it happened last Thursday now,

00:05:46.800 so about five days ago,

00:05:48.720 but I still have to talk about it now

00:05:50.460 because this is just such a despicable and disgusting display

00:05:54.500 from a Canadian leader or a so-called leader in Canada.

00:05:58.920 Actually, a so-called Canadian at this point,

00:06:01.520 given that she's parroting lines from China's communist regime

00:06:04.360 without equivocation.

00:06:06.760 Patti Haidu was asked the question

00:06:08.400 that I said on one or I think both of my shows last week

00:06:12.080 needs to be asked of Canadian lawmakers.

00:06:14.520 And that is whether you trust the numbers coming out of China.

00:06:18.260 Now, Justin Trudeau gave a very waffly,

00:06:21.400 meandering answer on this question.

00:06:23.500 He wasn't really speaking to the meat of it.

00:06:25.840 He said, oh, those are questions for future times.

00:06:28.800 He bumped it down and didn't really give it too much thought.

00:06:32.820 And let's roll that clip, actually.

00:06:34.180 Just to switch gears now on China,

00:06:36.940 U.S. intelligence reports reveal that China concealed

00:06:40.080 the degree and the severity of the outbreak.

00:06:43.620 I'm just wondering, does Canada have a similar intelligence?

00:06:47.180 And in the past, we have said that we trust China 0.98

00:06:49.960 and their information.

00:06:51.420 Do we still trust China and their information? 0.96

00:06:54.000 We know that countries around the world

00:06:56.240 have been sharing information with each other on their cases

00:06:59.640 and on what has been effective in terms of measures.

00:07:03.460 We've learned a lot from South Korea and Singapore

00:07:05.840 and other countries.

00:07:06.820 We've learned, unfortunately, a lot from Italy as well

00:07:09.420 in terms of what worked and what didn't work there.

00:07:12.820 We need to keep learning from other countries,

00:07:15.580 but we also need to be really thoughtful

00:07:18.020 about how we process and understand that information.

00:07:22.000 Obviously, there'll be many, many questions

00:07:25.200 as this is all worked through over the coming months

00:07:29.740 and indeed years on how this was handled,

00:07:32.840 what lessons are taken, who did well, who didn't do as well,

00:07:36.940 and who was perhaps not as forthcoming

00:07:39.820 with the global community as they should have been.

00:07:42.320 Those are questions, though, for future times.

00:07:45.820 Our focus right now is on getting through this

00:07:48.260 in a way that keeps Canadians whole and safe.

00:07:52.300 So yeah, I thought that was actually a terrible answer

00:07:54.960 when I heard it.

00:07:55.720 And when I heard Patty Hajdu talk about it,

00:07:58.160 I was longing for the non-committal,

00:08:01.100 weak, limp-fisted answer from Justin Trudeau

00:08:04.940 when I heard what Patty Hajdu had to say.

00:08:07.360 And I'm gonna play it in a moment,

00:08:08.860 but I wanna just set the stage here.

00:08:10.800 We're talking about China.

00:08:13.060 We're talking about China with its human rights abuses.

00:08:16.000 We're talking about China with its inability 0.82

00:08:19.080 to tell the truth at the best of times.

00:08:21.260 We're talking about China,

00:08:22.360 which right now is holding captive two Canadians,

00:08:25.400 the infamous two Michaels.

00:08:26.720 We're talking about that China.

00:08:29.140 So the idea of trusting China 0.97

00:08:31.620 seems like a pretty fruitless endeavor in general,

00:08:35.860 certainly in the case of the China-originated virus,

00:08:40.280 the coronavirus that originated from China.

00:08:43.100 So Patty Hajdu, Canada's supposed health minister, 1.00

00:08:45.600 Politburo Patty, as we call her now,

00:08:47.880 is asked whether she believes the China numbers.

00:08:50.920 Here's that exchange.

00:08:52.560 There's no indication that the data

00:08:54.400 that came out of China in terms of their infection rate

00:08:57.520 and their death rate was falsified in any way.

00:09:00.580 In fact, if you look at the death rate overall in China,

00:09:03.740 it's much higher than the one we're seeing now.

00:09:05.480 Please let her finish.

00:09:08.800 No.

00:09:11.260 Ian?

00:09:16.120 So I would say that your question

00:09:18.540 is feeding into conspiracy theories

00:09:20.320 that many people have been perpetuating on the Internet.

00:09:23.720 And it's important to remember

00:09:24.960 that there is no way to beat a global pandemic

00:09:28.280 if we're actually not willing to work together as a globe.

00:09:31.080 We will have to come up with a global solution to this virus.

00:09:35.360 No country is an island.

00:09:37.040 And I am so proud of the Canadian researchers

00:09:39.000 that are part of the World Health Organization Solidarity Project

00:09:42.140 that are working on developing vaccines

00:09:44.540 and treatments for this virus

00:09:46.000 that undoubtedly are going to be a big part of the solution

00:09:50.200 about how we all get ourselves out of this situation.

00:09:52.740 Yeah, she certainly earned the Politburo Patty title.

00:09:56.380 As I said with Candace Malcolm last week,

00:09:58.180 I don't know what the Chinese equivalent of poutine is.

00:10:01.200 Maybe it's Peking duck or something or Kung Pao chicken,

00:10:03.960 but she's certainly gotten her reward from the Politburo

00:10:07.180 for parroting the China line without equivocation,

00:10:10.460 without hesitation, and without any shame.

00:10:13.280 I mean, that's the thing.

00:10:14.180 It's not even just that she's doing what Trudeau did,

00:10:17.380 which is, listen, I mean, there will come a time

00:10:19.740 where we need to look at this and look at it seriously,

00:10:21.900 but that's not now.

00:10:23.080 She doubles down and actually doubled down the next day as well 1.00

00:10:27.260 by saying there's no indication China can't be trusted.

00:10:30.820 Those are her words, no indication.

00:10:34.060 No indication that we cannot trust China, 0.78

00:10:37.820 the China that I just described,

00:10:39.800 when it tells us how many people have contracted

00:10:43.040 and how many people have died from the coronavirus strain

00:10:46.420 that we're talking about now, COVID-19.

00:10:48.360 Now, there are a few different aspects of this that are important.

00:10:53.380 Number one, there is the Bloomberg report citing U.S. intelligence.

00:10:57.500 This report saying that there is a high likelihood

00:11:01.980 in the mindset of the U.S. intelligence community

00:11:04.180 that the China numbers are way off,

00:11:07.760 that they just can't be trusted.

00:11:09.400 You've got reports from the ground of mass cremations,

00:11:13.040 incinerators running around the clock.

00:11:15.040 And also, by the way, you have from that also numbers

00:11:19.640 that are talking about this Barron's report that I saw

00:11:23.560 that I found kind of interesting,

00:11:25.020 how the trajectory, the data that we saw from China

00:11:28.740 was almost too perfect.

00:11:31.060 So the implication there was that you have,

00:11:36.220 and the best way of describing it is a line

00:11:38.320 that if you were to make up a line

00:11:40.760 and make up a trajectory,

00:11:42.140 that's the numbers we'd see from China.

00:11:43.960 And this is, again, from a Barron story.

00:11:46.000 I'm not a data analyst.

00:11:47.260 I haven't crunched the numbers like they have,

00:11:49.360 but you can see on the screen what I'm talking about.

00:11:51.480 They say that the numbers just seem too perfect

00:11:53.660 to occur naturally.

00:11:55.840 You know, Boris Johnson,

00:11:56.980 not this, you know, evil, gun-toting American redneck 0.92

00:12:00.720 like the media is trying to point out to all the Americans.

00:12:03.440 Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom,

00:12:06.200 has said that the U.K. government has evidenced numbers

00:12:08.920 could be 40 times higher than what China has admitted to.

00:12:13.180 Just put that in context.

00:12:14.820 40 times higher.

00:12:16.440 This is not an insignificant differential.

00:12:19.240 And even from the mainstream media,

00:12:21.140 the Washington Post has a story talking about the imbalance.

00:12:25.340 The Washington Post says as well,

00:12:27.360 it could be multiple times higher

00:12:29.520 than what China has acknowledged.

00:12:31.320 Multiple.

00:12:31.780 We're not talking about a rounding error.

00:12:33.600 We're not talking about a difference

00:12:34.980 of just a couple here and there.

00:12:36.280 We're talking about massive cover-ups

00:12:39.080 by the Chinese regime

00:12:41.080 to deflate their numbers,

00:12:44.580 their death toll, their infections,

00:12:46.180 which is par for the course.

00:12:47.840 And might I remind you

00:12:49.120 that even the Chinese Politburo,

00:12:51.340 the Chinese Politburo,

00:12:52.760 who's been showering Patty Hajdu with affection

00:12:55.120 since she decided to embrace

00:12:57.340 their talking points last week,

00:12:59.300 has acknowledged its shortcomings.

00:13:01.860 This is what their own words were.

00:13:03.300 They acknowledged shortcomings and deficiencies

00:13:06.080 in the handling of the virus.

00:13:08.640 China has actually gone back

00:13:10.180 and revamped and revised its numbers a few times.

00:13:13.620 So they are even acknowledging themselves

00:13:16.200 that their approach has not been the most accurate

00:13:20.160 or valid throughout this crisis.

00:13:23.240 And again, even Justin Trudeau was saying,

00:13:26.620 listen, I mean, we can talk about this in the future.

00:13:29.140 And I never thought,

00:13:30.040 I mean, maybe that's the strategy here.

00:13:31.480 Maybe Politburo Patty has to look so inept 0.98

00:13:33.960 and so in the bag for the Chinese

00:13:35.800 that it makes Justin Trudeau's position

00:13:37.560 look moderate and nuanced.

00:13:39.660 That's the only explanation I can think of

00:13:42.060 is that she's the one that has to fall on the sword 0.83

00:13:44.600 to make it look like Justin Trudeau

00:13:47.400 is the steady hand leading us through this crisis.

00:13:50.200 And admittedly, if you set the bar so low

00:13:52.340 that the Seven Dwarfs couldn't even play limbo under it,

00:13:55.320 it makes Justin Trudeau look a little bit better

00:13:57.440 because it's not that big a bar

00:13:59.620 that he has to clear to look like the adult in the room.

00:14:03.700 Because I talked last week on the show

00:14:05.840 about my concern with Francois-Philippe Champagne's tweet

00:14:09.220 that was showering gratitude on the Chinese

00:14:12.340 for sending medical supplies to Canada.

00:14:15.580 And what was interesting is a European Union diplomat,

00:14:19.540 Joseph Burrell, had called this,

00:14:21.860 not specifically referring to Canada,

00:14:23.940 but China's conduct in general around the world,

00:14:26.840 as, quote, the politics of generosity.

00:14:30.300 And what Monsieur Burrell was talking about

00:14:32.540 is how China uses this supposed benevolence on its part

00:14:36.580 for very political purposes.

00:14:39.160 So even with this benevolence of sorts,

00:14:41.600 you can't take it at face value.

00:14:43.960 You have to approach it with a level of skepticism.

00:14:48.120 And I wrote a column about this.

00:14:49.520 Canada's appeasement of China needs to stop

00:14:52.480 because China has tried to turn

00:14:55.840 the propaganda machine into full force.

00:14:59.460 That's what China's done always. 1.00

00:15:01.320 That's what China's doing now. 1.00

00:15:03.020 The Wuhan flu, the Kung flu, the coronavirus,

00:15:05.860 whatever you want to call it,

00:15:07.100 has threatened China's reputation.

00:15:09.900 China needs regime survival.

00:15:11.780 So the propaganda machine goes into full force.

00:15:14.880 And when China was on the receiving end

00:15:17.500 of 16 tons of medical gear from Canada

00:15:20.360 and starts to get bad press,

00:15:22.260 it was only when that bad press started

00:15:25.080 that China's sending stuff to other countries,

00:15:27.540 including Canada.

00:15:28.960 By the way, we don't even know

00:15:30.800 if the Canadian equipment that we got from China

00:15:34.060 is working.

00:15:35.580 I mean, China has been responsible 1.00

00:15:37.540 for hundreds of thousands,

00:15:38.860 I think millions of units of testing kits

00:15:41.320 and masks that have had to be recalled.

00:15:44.220 In Spain, they had,

00:15:46.340 I think it was Spain or Turkey,

00:15:47.940 I can't remember offhand,

00:15:48.700 but the testing kits only had a 30% accuracy rate.

00:15:51.800 So the dollar store pregnancy test

00:15:53.340 would have given you a better read.

00:15:55.120 You had masks that needed to be recalled in Spain.

00:15:57.920 I think a lot of the masks

00:15:59.180 that people are making themselves

00:16:00.860 out of like fabric are probably better

00:16:03.300 than some of these like Chinese recalls

00:16:06.160 that are being done in Spain and Turkey

00:16:09.240 and the Netherlands

00:16:09.940 and all of these other countries

00:16:11.320 because China is exporting its crap.

00:16:14.380 China gets the good stuff, 0.98

00:16:15.740 China exports crap, 1.00

00:16:17.340 but Chinese embassies tweet about,

00:16:19.160 oh yes, we're, you know,

00:16:19.980 pleased to help the global effort,

00:16:21.960 pleased to do all of this stuff.

00:16:24.340 So, you know, the fact is

00:16:26.100 there is always going to be,

00:16:28.740 there's always going to be this skepticism

00:16:31.480 that we need to have with China 0.99

00:16:33.460 and for the liberals to abandon that

00:16:36.580 and not just abandon that,

00:16:38.780 but to actively resist it

00:16:42.780 for the liberals to actively resist it

00:16:46.100 and accuse people who ask about China's numbers

00:16:49.360 of Chinese conspiracy theories

00:16:52.320 or conspiracy theories about the Chinese

00:16:54.720 and the Chinese regime is unconscionable.

00:16:57.560 We're not talking about some,

00:16:59.220 you know, rabid conspiracy theorist

00:17:01.360 who asked the question.

00:17:02.280 It was a CTV field producer

00:17:03.940 who asked the question,

00:17:05.380 which is a very legitimate one

00:17:06.720 and good on him for asking it

00:17:08.100 about whether we can trust China's numbers.

00:17:11.480 That's it.

00:17:11.900 What's wrong with that?

00:17:13.060 What is wrong with that?

00:17:14.640 Can we trust China's numbers? 0.92

00:17:16.220 And then he follows up

00:17:17.480 and she says,

00:17:18.060 you're just feeding conspiracy theories right now.

00:17:21.020 So that is just so egregious

00:17:23.880 and so offensive

00:17:25.780 and interestingly enough,

00:17:28.140 exactly how the Chinese government responds

00:17:31.120 to critical skepticism,

00:17:32.700 which is just to,

00:17:33.680 I mean, certainly I would take her finger wagging

00:17:35.820 over what the Chinese Politburo would do

00:17:38.300 because at least the guy still has his legs

00:17:40.120 and he still gets to walk around.

00:17:41.680 I mean, you try that in China,

00:17:43.220 which is the country that is apparently

00:17:45.600 so fondly trusted and believed

00:17:47.620 by Politburo Patty

00:17:48.800 and it's a very different story.

00:17:51.500 And interestingly enough,

00:17:52.960 the Chinese absolutely adore Politburo Patty now.

00:17:57.360 I'm going to read a couple of tweets here.

00:17:59.740 My personal favorite was from this guy

00:18:02.200 who is a columnist for China Daily

00:18:07.200 and a bureau chief for China Daily's EU operation,

00:18:11.900 Chen Weiwa.

00:18:13.120 He says,

00:18:13.720 Canadian Health Minister Haidu is a role model.

00:18:16.840 She is a disappointment

00:18:17.860 to those paparazzi journalists and fear mongers.

00:18:21.360 Now, I don't know if I am the paparazzi journalist

00:18:24.500 or fear monger in question.

00:18:26.180 He was, after all, retweeting me when he did that.

00:18:29.960 But that's the whole thing.

00:18:31.040 So when you're getting support and accolades

00:18:33.300 from the Chinese Communist Party's publicity wing,

00:18:37.660 which is what that news outlet supposedly is owned by,

00:18:41.600 it's certainly not something you want to be proud of.

00:18:44.900 And, you know,

00:18:45.520 there were a couple of other tweets as well

00:18:47.080 from people like this one,

00:18:48.800 Shen Shiwei,

00:18:50.060 the voice from Canada,

00:18:51.420 liberal politician on COVID-19,

00:18:53.600 hashtag coronavirus truth.

00:18:56.720 And that is from a news producer,

00:18:59.220 apparently, also.

00:19:00.520 So, you know,

00:19:01.260 you have all of these Chinese media,

00:19:03.540 Chinese state media or state-adjacent media

00:19:06.000 that are like,

00:19:06.800 oh yeah,

00:19:07.140 Patti Haidu is fantastic.

00:19:08.480 And you got to wonder why.

00:19:10.140 I mean,

00:19:10.320 we think it's bad enough

00:19:11.160 when the liberals in Canada

00:19:12.800 are cozying up to CBC,

00:19:14.720 more concerned by them cozying up

00:19:17.160 to the Chinese state equivalent.

00:19:20.780 But this is what's happening now.

00:19:22.240 So we are faced with the reckoning

00:19:25.220 or need to be faced with the reckoning

00:19:26.880 that our government is more interested

00:19:28.960 in China appeasement

00:19:30.480 than it is in public health in Canada.

00:19:34.160 And some people were saying,

00:19:35.640 oh, well, no, no, no,

00:19:36.280 because we need medical equipment from China.

00:19:39.120 She was just trying to be diplomatic.

00:19:41.180 And you know what?

00:19:41.700 There's a time for diplomacy.

00:19:43.080 Right now,

00:19:43.920 no one should be bending over backwards

00:19:46.600 or bending in any direction for China.

00:19:48.780 No one at all.

00:19:49.780 They should be the ones bending over 0.99

00:19:51.900 for the world right now.

00:19:54.360 So even if there is medical equipment at stake,

00:19:56.920 which again is,

00:19:57.680 you know,

00:19:57.840 you might as well just like

00:19:58.780 take some extra pieces of toilet paper

00:20:00.680 and cover your face with them

00:20:02.340 because that's about as good as the equipment

00:20:03.980 that China is exporting right now is.

00:20:06.400 Even with that at stake,

00:20:07.860 no one should be subverting,

00:20:10.840 subverting the healthy and necessary skepticism

00:20:13.980 that we all need to have with China.

00:20:16.400 Certainly not the supposed

00:20:18.100 and health minister of Canada.

00:20:20.820 We'll be back in a moment.

00:20:22.120 More of the Andrew Lawton show coming up.

00:20:23.900 Stay tuned.

00:20:26.540 You're tuned in to the Andrew Lawton show.

00:20:32.440 You know,

00:20:33.120 I think one of the big takeaways

00:20:34.840 that we should extract

00:20:36.660 from the whole China thing

00:20:38.320 is the importance of not being beholden

00:20:40.800 to other countries.

00:20:42.340 And Ontario Premier Doug Ford said this,

00:20:44.740 this past week,

00:20:45.660 he was actually very disappointed,

00:20:47.680 very frustrated

00:20:48.580 when the news came out

00:20:50.540 that Donald Trump had ordered 3M

00:20:52.640 to stop exporting N95 masks

00:20:55.020 to other countries

00:20:56.160 and that included Canada.

00:20:58.380 And Doug Ford said,

00:20:59.580 listen,

00:20:59.880 I mean,

00:21:00.120 I think this is wrong.

00:21:01.300 We're supposed to be friends.

00:21:02.220 We're supposed to be allies.

00:21:03.520 I think what I take from this,

00:21:05.380 Ford said,

00:21:05.940 is that we can never,

00:21:07.380 ever be reliant on another province,

00:21:09.800 another country.

00:21:10.520 We need to take advantage

00:21:12.100 of Ontario manufacturing

00:21:13.540 and get these

00:21:15.060 so that we have a supply ourselves.

00:21:17.720 And I think that Ford took

00:21:19.380 a very measured

00:21:20.960 and positive position.

00:21:23.160 I think that the Canadian media

00:21:25.480 has just so drastically torqued

00:21:28.500 this 3M thing out of context.

00:21:32.500 And I think there's been

00:21:33.660 a very short-sighted approach to it.

00:21:35.560 And I actually wanted to talk about it

00:21:36.920 because I tweeted something about it

00:21:38.780 that did very well in US

00:21:40.480 and I was getting jumped on

00:21:42.280 by a lot of Canadians

00:21:43.360 and I was going to explain it

00:21:44.820 and I'm like,

00:21:45.160 you know what?

00:21:45.460 This is why I have a show.

00:21:46.840 Twitter is not good

00:21:47.600 for pretty much anything.

00:21:49.080 It's good for Tiger King memes. 0.55

00:21:50.540 That's it.

00:21:51.400 But I did find it interesting

00:21:53.540 that all of these Canadians

00:21:55.080 who could,

00:21:55.620 because in Canada right now,

00:21:56.700 we have a shortage of these masks.

00:21:59.060 And Canadians were outraged

00:22:01.040 that in the US,

00:22:02.800 Donald Trump wanted to prevent 3M

00:22:05.420 from sending them to other countries

00:22:06.880 because the US had a shortage.

00:22:08.280 And I thought,

00:22:09.240 OK, I get it

00:22:10.580 because Canada and the US

00:22:11.780 have this long-standing relationship,

00:22:14.040 longest unprotected border in the world,

00:22:16.100 largest trading relationship in the world.

00:22:18.460 They are friends.

00:22:19.680 I mean, everyone's talking about

00:22:20.980 Gander, Newfoundland,

00:22:22.320 taking in planes during 9-11,

00:22:24.640 which became the basis

00:22:25.580 for the play Come From Away,

00:22:27.500 whether it was, you know,

00:22:28.640 Canadians working with the US

00:22:30.780 on that mission

00:22:32.280 to free American hostages

00:22:34.180 from Iran

00:22:35.580 that were holed up

00:22:36.300 at the Canadian embassy.

00:22:38.280 You have all of these different things

00:22:40.260 that are part of this relationship,

00:22:42.320 part of this history.

00:22:43.780 And the fact that, again,

00:22:44.880 the economies are so integrated,

00:22:46.740 you could not put a wall between them,

00:22:49.100 as we've learned

00:22:50.140 in the last few weeks,

00:22:51.720 without there being drastic consequences.

00:22:54.340 But at the same time,

00:22:55.940 Donald Trump was elected

00:22:57.240 based on a very simple premise,

00:22:59.160 America first.

00:23:00.300 And that idea is offensive

00:23:02.280 to everyone but Americans.

00:23:04.320 Whereas I think every country

00:23:05.760 needs to put its own interests first.

00:23:07.300 We need to have Canada first, 1.00

00:23:08.840 Britain first, 0.88

00:23:09.560 Mexico first. 0.60

00:23:10.480 And that doesn't mean

00:23:11.300 ignoring other countries.

00:23:12.780 I am not a protectionist.

00:23:14.080 I actually deplore protectionism.

00:23:16.220 I think trade is in the economic interest

00:23:18.040 of countries

00:23:18.660 and people who live in countries.

00:23:20.700 But I do think

00:23:21.760 that when you are in a crisis situation,

00:23:24.080 like we are now,

00:23:25.300 I understand a country saying,

00:23:29.300 hmm, we have a shortage of these things.

00:23:31.800 We need them.

00:23:32.860 American lives are at stake.

00:23:34.560 Why are we sending our masks

00:23:37.100 to other countries

00:23:38.180 when we have a shortage?

00:23:39.400 And you put a flip side on it.

00:23:41.020 Let's say that Canada

00:23:42.180 was manufacturing N95 masks,

00:23:44.340 which by the way, it wasn't.

00:23:45.640 At the time this happened,

00:23:46.540 there was no domestic N95 production in Canada.

00:23:50.980 I think there are some companies

00:23:52.040 that are trying to retool

00:23:53.000 or are doing other masks

00:23:54.540 or similar masks,

00:23:55.480 but at the time there was none.

00:23:57.400 So if Canada had a shortage

00:23:59.020 and a Canadian company

00:24:01.200 were making these masks

00:24:02.460 and the U.S. were to come in there

00:24:04.780 with a ridiculous bully offer

00:24:06.780 and says, we're going to buy those.

00:24:08.320 Don't sell them to your own country.

00:24:09.920 We're going to buy them

00:24:11.040 and take them off the border 0.71

00:24:12.040 or we're going to take half of them,

00:24:13.280 whatever.

00:24:14.100 And the company said,

00:24:14.900 okay, do you not think

00:24:16.860 there would be outrage from Canadians?

00:24:19.000 Wait, why are masks in Canada

00:24:20.720 going to the U.S.?

00:24:22.540 Why are masks in Canada

00:24:23.680 going to Mexico?

00:24:24.540 Or going to the U.K.?

00:24:25.760 And when you flip it,

00:24:28.100 I think it makes a lot of sense.

00:24:30.460 And I don't know

00:24:31.720 why people weren't seeing that.

00:24:33.300 The media was hammering Trudeau on this.

00:24:35.140 Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland

00:24:36.500 were talking about

00:24:37.180 how disappointed they were

00:24:38.460 and how upsetting

00:24:39.580 and how devastating this was

00:24:41.280 and all of that.

00:24:42.240 And I thought that Doug Ford

00:24:43.480 had the best position on it of anyone

00:24:45.960 because he said,

00:24:46.620 listen, I'm frustrated.

00:24:47.860 I'm annoyed.

00:24:48.540 I understand why they're looking out

00:24:50.080 for themselves.

00:24:50.920 I'm disappointed they're doing it.

00:24:52.460 I get it.

00:24:53.480 It's wrong,

00:24:54.160 but I get it.

00:24:55.020 And that was my point on this,

00:24:56.800 which is that it is wrong,

00:24:58.180 but I get it.

00:24:59.460 And I think there is some truth

00:25:00.740 to that idea

00:25:01.480 that we should not,

00:25:02.980 as a country,

00:25:03.760 be beholden to others

00:25:05.160 and be beholden to other countries.

00:25:07.220 We should have our own stockpiles.

00:25:09.680 We should have our own

00:25:10.860 manufacturing of them.

00:25:12.060 Or at the very least,

00:25:13.320 we should have places

00:25:14.320 that on a dime

00:25:15.520 could switch or retool

00:25:17.480 to manufacturing these things.

00:25:19.140 But I found it just so baffling

00:25:22.860 that a country

00:25:24.120 putting its own interests first

00:25:26.140 was seen as such a radical concept

00:25:29.280 to so many people.

00:25:30.440 Like if I have to see one more time,

00:25:31.920 oh, but Gander, Newfoundland.

00:25:33.480 Yeah, okay.

00:25:34.080 Yeah, great.

00:25:35.000 The people of Gander,

00:25:35.840 I'm sure are lovely.

00:25:36.560 The people of Newfoundland are lovely.

00:25:38.360 They did a great thing.

00:25:39.760 But where that comparison

00:25:41.200 doesn't hold water

00:25:42.420 of all the come from a ways

00:25:44.840 landing in Gander,

00:25:45.980 where that comparison

00:25:47.040 doesn't hold water

00:25:48.080 is that Gander wasn't under attack

00:25:50.780 at the same time.

00:25:52.980 So imagine if the U.S. was under attack

00:25:55.640 and Newfoundland was under attack

00:25:58.160 and then Newfoundland still said,

00:26:00.480 okay, we're going to divert

00:26:01.960 our resources

00:26:03.440 that are very scarce right now

00:26:05.340 to help all of these American airliners.

00:26:08.620 That wouldn't have happened

00:26:10.160 because it couldn't have happened.

00:26:11.640 So right now,

00:26:12.720 we're in a very different situation

00:26:14.660 in that both of us

00:26:15.620 are being attacked by the same thing,

00:26:17.580 which is COVID-19.

00:26:18.920 If anything,

00:26:20.020 it is worse in the U.S.

00:26:21.880 The U.S. is the new epicenter of this.

00:26:24.680 And all the Canadian media

00:26:25.980 that have been hammering Trudeau

00:26:27.420 for daring to,

00:26:29.880 well, basically hammering Trudeau

00:26:31.560 over this are aware of this

00:26:34.240 because they've been saying,

00:26:35.180 oh, the U.S. is so bad

00:26:36.180 and Trump is so bad

00:26:37.100 and the U.S. people are dying

00:26:38.740 in huge numbers,

00:26:39.980 which they are.

00:26:40.680 I mean, it's the U.S.

00:26:41.700 is ahead of where we are

00:26:42.820 in Canada right now.

00:26:44.900 But all of these people are like,

00:26:46.340 why should we be offended

00:26:48.420 by a country

00:26:49.320 that has become the epicenter

00:26:51.040 saying, listen,

00:26:52.260 we need to keep our supply?

00:26:53.800 Now, what I will say

00:26:55.980 is that I think it's short-sighted

00:26:57.640 because I think that capacity

00:26:59.100 is increasing.

00:27:00.340 I do think there's enough

00:27:01.560 to go around,

00:27:02.420 assuming manufacturing's continuing.

00:27:04.600 And I also think

00:27:05.880 that it is very disheartening

00:27:07.660 when a government

00:27:09.080 is directing private enterprise.

00:27:11.120 Like, that was my bigger issue here.

00:27:12.820 Was the government saying to 3M,

00:27:15.000 you can't do this

00:27:16.120 when 3M wanted to.

00:27:17.800 So in that case,

00:27:18.780 but that's a separate issue.

00:27:20.040 No one was expressing

00:27:21.240 their displeasure

00:27:22.160 because it was like

00:27:23.140 violating the principle

00:27:24.300 of independent business.

00:27:26.060 They were all upset

00:27:26.800 because, oh, Canadians are so nice

00:27:28.540 and we've been so nice to you

00:27:29.740 and we love you

00:27:30.700 and why are you not doing it back?

00:27:32.300 It's like this Canadian 1.00

00:27:33.280 inferiority complex

00:27:34.840 that Canadians have,

00:27:36.420 which is like this constant desire

00:27:38.500 for American affection

00:27:40.140 gets very sad after a while.

00:27:42.820 And I think that what needs

00:27:44.320 to be taken from this

00:27:45.560 as we move forward

00:27:46.680 is the importance of Canada

00:27:48.700 putting Canada first 0.78

00:27:50.100 and Canada putting

00:27:51.520 the interests of Canada first.

00:27:54.480 And this national pride

00:27:56.080 and national independence

00:27:57.840 that is not protectionism.

00:27:59.380 I deplore protectionism,

00:28:01.220 but it's understanding

00:28:02.540 when things get tough,

00:28:04.120 you have to put

00:28:05.160 your own country's interests first

00:28:06.820 and that's what every country

00:28:08.200 around the world

00:28:08.980 should be doing

00:28:10.140 and it's what most

00:28:11.220 around the world are doing.

00:28:13.500 And to get mad

00:28:15.140 at another country

00:28:16.160 for doing that.

00:28:17.240 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:28:18.160 We can talk through it

00:28:19.120 and say, listen,

00:28:19.980 let's talk about numbers.

00:28:21.260 Let's find a solution.

00:28:22.980 Let's talk about

00:28:23.800 what we have for you

00:28:25.320 that you could repay us,

00:28:27.560 make it a trade.

00:28:29.280 You know, Spencer Fernando

00:28:30.160 had a great piece up there

00:28:31.360 on his website,

00:28:32.600 spencerfernando.com,

00:28:33.920 where he said,

00:28:34.400 if Trump wants to stop

00:28:35.360 shipping masks to Canada,

00:28:37.000 we can stop shipping

00:28:37.940 the pulp to make them.

00:28:39.420 And I think that's a great point.

00:28:40.860 And no one wants

00:28:41.820 a trade war

00:28:42.780 between allies

00:28:44.020 at a time

00:28:44.660 when they could be

00:28:45.280 working together.

00:28:46.240 But that is the inevitable

00:28:47.560 byproduct of it.

00:28:48.960 And I think that reinforces

00:28:50.580 the importance of trade

00:28:51.900 is that it is a two-way street

00:28:53.820 and it's not just about

00:28:55.660 the best of the U.S.

00:28:56.940 coming to Canada.

00:28:57.920 It's about stuff

00:28:59.060 going back and forth.

00:29:00.380 I forget the exact numbers,

00:29:01.960 but I read something

00:29:02.700 a while ago

00:29:03.360 about the number of times

00:29:05.220 that a car

00:29:05.940 has basically crossed

00:29:07.300 the border

00:29:07.740 before it ends up

00:29:08.720 in a driver's hands.

00:29:10.160 I mean, not physically,

00:29:11.220 but, you know,

00:29:11.840 this part, this part,

00:29:12.920 this part, this part,

00:29:13.780 and it all comes together.

00:29:15.820 So you can't disintegrate

00:29:18.320 that linkage

00:29:19.240 of those two economies,

00:29:20.800 nor should you.

00:29:21.780 But similarly,

00:29:22.540 you should never be offended

00:29:24.240 by a country

00:29:25.800 that wants to put

00:29:27.040 its own interests first.

00:29:28.200 In fact,

00:29:28.640 that type of attitude,

00:29:30.260 not the 3M thing

00:29:31.360 in specific terms,

00:29:32.860 but that general attitude

00:29:34.000 of a country

00:29:34.700 putting its own interests first

00:29:36.400 is what countries

00:29:37.700 should aspire to,

00:29:39.320 not what countries

00:29:40.480 should be repulsed

00:29:41.980 or repelled by.

00:29:44.320 We've got to take a break.

00:29:45.760 When we come back,

00:29:46.440 more of the Andrew Lawton Show

00:29:47.560 here on True North.

00:29:48.460 You're tuned in

00:29:51.260 to the Andrew Lawton Show.

00:29:57.680 As everyone is focused,

00:29:59.540 I think, justifiably

00:30:00.700 and gratefully

00:30:01.640 on the public health implications,

00:30:03.880 we have seen

00:30:04.960 this encroachment

00:30:06.040 of state power

00:30:07.080 that I think

00:30:07.760 is important to note here.

00:30:09.460 And interestingly enough,

00:30:10.580 the Canadian press

00:30:11.360 had a piece

00:30:12.100 that I thought

00:30:12.640 was very solid on this.

00:30:14.200 It was that

00:30:14.460 civil liberties groups

00:30:15.940 are saying,

00:30:16.700 remain vigilant

00:30:18.040 about your rights

00:30:18.940 even with everything

00:30:19.940 that's happening,

00:30:20.620 even with coronavirus

00:30:21.540 and COVID-19.

00:30:23.700 A human rights lawyer

00:30:25.180 from Montreal

00:30:25.860 had said

00:30:26.440 the Charter of Rights

00:30:27.540 and Freedoms

00:30:28.040 has not disappeared.

00:30:29.960 Government has more leeway,

00:30:31.440 but rights still exist.

00:30:33.160 Other liberties groups

00:30:34.240 as well

00:30:34.720 saying very similar things.

00:30:36.440 And it's important

00:30:37.380 because rights exist

00:30:39.020 insofar as

00:30:40.500 you have the ability

00:30:41.980 or should have the ability

00:30:42.940 to do everything

00:30:43.700 until it threatens

00:30:45.640 someone else's rights.

00:30:47.140 And that's where

00:30:47.740 I think public health measures

00:30:49.460 can be justified

00:30:50.340 from government.

00:30:51.860 But certain times

00:30:53.300 we're seeing

00:30:54.280 around the world,

00:30:55.080 not just in Canada,

00:30:56.000 around the world,

00:30:57.660 measures that

00:30:58.940 have no public health benefit

00:31:00.900 and are still going after

00:31:02.920 individual people's rights.

00:31:04.700 You know,

00:31:04.940 there was one that I saw

00:31:05.980 in Britain,

00:31:06.680 for example,

00:31:07.260 where two people

00:31:08.220 were having a barbecue

00:31:09.420 on a beach,

00:31:10.320 an empty beach.

00:31:11.220 They were social distancing

00:31:12.400 and police ended up

00:31:14.420 violating social distance

00:31:15.940 by getting right

00:31:16.680 in the couple's face

00:31:17.600 and then had to like

00:31:18.980 douse their barbecue

00:31:19.960 to get them to leave.

00:31:21.380 They had taken a helmet,

00:31:22.500 filled it with water

00:31:23.240 and threw it on there.

00:31:24.820 Now, again,

00:31:25.380 the beach was closed.

00:31:26.540 I get it.

00:31:27.980 But no one was benefiting

00:31:29.740 from that.

00:31:30.760 No one's health

00:31:31.540 benefited from that.

00:31:33.420 You see other stories,

00:31:34.500 especially in the UK,

00:31:35.940 by the way,

00:31:36.960 where this is happening.

00:31:38.460 A story in the New York Times,

00:31:39.880 police are using drones,

00:31:41.180 public shaming

00:31:42.580 and Easter egg bans

00:31:44.240 as they try to target

00:31:46.040 people that are breaking

00:31:47.300 these laws

00:31:48.280 and lockdown requests.

00:31:50.020 You have other stories

00:31:51.040 as well,

00:31:51.640 such as police getting mad

00:31:53.640 at those who are exercising

00:31:55.960 more than once a day.

00:31:57.740 So this is from BBC.

00:31:59.480 Nick Adderley

00:32:00.320 from Northamptonshire Police

00:32:01.900 has said that

00:32:02.580 they're getting dozens

00:32:03.540 and dozens of calls

00:32:04.640 about people ignoring

00:32:06.260 the order of taking

00:32:07.640 one form of exercise a day.

00:32:09.940 So that's it.

00:32:10.500 You get one form

00:32:12.060 of exercise a day

00:32:13.080 and what Mr. Adderley said

00:32:15.600 is we're getting calls

00:32:16.420 from people who say,

00:32:17.360 I think my neighbor

00:32:18.240 is going out

00:32:19.160 on a second run.

00:32:20.460 I want you to come

00:32:21.660 and arrest them.

00:32:23.060 Now, can you imagine

00:32:24.200 how joyless your life

00:32:25.880 must be

00:32:27.160 if you want to take

00:32:28.920 aim at someone

00:32:29.760 because they're going out

00:32:30.880 for a second run

00:32:31.960 when the government

00:32:32.840 has said you're only allowed

00:32:33.860 one run a day?

00:32:35.120 Now, this is assuming

00:32:36.260 that the streets

00:32:37.000 are open enough

00:32:37.860 that someone can run

00:32:39.160 and still be six feet away

00:32:40.460 on any direction

00:32:41.380 from other people.

00:32:43.240 But someone says,

00:32:44.100 hmm, you know,

00:32:44.540 I'm a pretty fit.

00:32:45.220 Like, again,

00:32:45.520 I could benefit from one run.

00:32:46.820 I could certainly benefit

00:32:47.680 from two runs.

00:32:48.700 I assure you

00:32:49.320 I'm not doing near my limit.

00:32:51.480 So some of these people

00:32:52.220 that want to do

00:32:52.720 two runs a day,

00:32:53.520 they can take my excess runs

00:32:54.980 if they'd like.

00:32:55.600 In fact, I hope they do.

00:32:57.260 But again,

00:32:57.760 the idea that this

00:32:58.880 has now facilitated

00:33:00.080 this snitch culture 0.88

00:33:01.420 I think is very dangerous

00:33:04.180 and I want to make

00:33:05.780 this point very carefully

00:33:06.960 because I understand

00:33:07.960 that we're all in this together

00:33:09.640 and I understand

00:33:10.660 it's annoying

00:33:11.340 as I've talked about

00:33:12.320 when you do your part

00:33:13.360 and someone else

00:33:14.120 doesn't do theirs.

00:33:15.480 Like, I joked about

00:33:16.520 being on a path

00:33:17.860 for a walk last week

00:33:18.980 and I take three feet

00:33:20.240 in one way

00:33:21.300 assuming they're going to

00:33:22.460 take three feet

00:33:23.060 the other way

00:33:23.600 and they don't.

00:33:24.620 And this happened

00:33:25.140 to me yesterday,

00:33:25.840 by the way.

00:33:26.220 My wife and I

00:33:26.760 went out for a walk.

00:33:27.920 We're walking

00:33:28.600 down the sidewalk.

00:33:29.940 Two people,

00:33:30.580 young females

00:33:31.700 are walking towards us.

00:33:33.280 We kind of veer

00:33:34.380 to the right

00:33:35.120 just to give them space

00:33:36.600 and they continue

00:33:37.760 straight down

00:33:38.800 as though nothing's going on

00:33:40.340 and it was actually

00:33:41.440 quite ignorant.

00:33:42.360 It was actually

00:33:42.920 quite ignorant

00:33:43.520 because even if you

00:33:44.280 don't believe in

00:33:45.380 all the panic

00:33:46.660 and hysteria, 0.69

00:33:47.740 it's a very easy

00:33:49.300 thing to do

00:33:50.260 out of respect

00:33:51.260 for those around you

00:33:52.240 to just walk

00:33:53.160 three feet

00:33:54.260 in one direction

00:33:55.060 and people aren't

00:33:56.100 doing that.

00:33:56.620 So I get it.

00:33:57.440 It's an annoyance

00:33:58.240 but I would never

00:33:59.420 snitch on

00:34:00.500 people

00:34:00.900 if they're not

00:34:02.000 putting others

00:34:02.780 in jeopardy.

00:34:04.480 You know,

00:34:04.860 I've seen parks now

00:34:05.900 that have yellow tape

00:34:07.280 around them.

00:34:07.780 If I were to see

00:34:08.440 someone playing

00:34:09.120 with their kids

00:34:09.760 in a park

00:34:10.260 and the park

00:34:11.000 was technically closed,

00:34:12.980 why do I care?

00:34:14.000 If there's no one

00:34:14.740 else there,

00:34:15.180 they're not breaking

00:34:15.840 the rules.

00:34:16.560 They're not breaking

00:34:17.160 the spirit of the rules

00:34:18.440 because the problem

00:34:19.560 is these rules

00:34:20.440 are being made

00:34:21.800 on the back of napkins.

00:34:23.040 They're being done

00:34:23.580 very quickly

00:34:24.300 and there is a gap

00:34:26.120 that is growing

00:34:26.800 between the spirit

00:34:27.780 of the law

00:34:28.360 and the letter

00:34:28.900 of the law

00:34:29.460 and I don't think

00:34:30.440 you can entirely

00:34:31.240 have the letter

00:34:32.160 of the law

00:34:32.780 meet what we're

00:34:34.260 supposed to do

00:34:35.100 as a society

00:34:35.920 right now

00:34:36.540 and that's the issue.

00:34:37.960 So I do think

00:34:38.840 that, you know,

00:34:39.580 stupid laws

00:34:40.300 in some case

00:34:40.940 are meant to be broken

00:34:41.760 but I also think

00:34:42.520 more importantly

00:34:43.200 if you are not

00:34:44.480 doing anything

00:34:45.300 reckless

00:34:45.780 then who cares?

00:34:48.040 Who are these

00:34:48.700 busybodies

00:34:49.380 that want to rat

00:34:50.300 out people

00:34:50.840 that aren't

00:34:51.380 doing anything wrong?

00:34:53.360 So that's where

00:34:54.280 my frustration

00:34:55.100 is on this

00:34:56.080 and certainly

00:34:56.860 in Britain

00:34:57.420 which has always

00:34:58.240 been the worst

00:34:58.940 place in the world

00:35:00.560 for busybody cops 1.00

00:35:01.640 we're seeing a lot

00:35:02.700 more of this

00:35:03.280 but I fear

00:35:04.320 we're going to see

00:35:05.100 more of that

00:35:05.620 in Canada as well

00:35:06.600 because Canadians

00:35:07.280 do not have

00:35:08.180 this ironclad grip

00:35:09.860 on civil liberties.

00:35:10.880 In fact,

00:35:11.240 it's interesting

00:35:11.920 because I've got

00:35:12.680 a lot of friends

00:35:13.200 in the US

00:35:13.640 and friends in Canada

00:35:14.660 of course

00:35:15.120 I mean I don't

00:35:15.760 have a lot of friends

00:35:16.380 but people I know

00:35:17.420 and it's a joke

00:35:19.200 don't worry.

00:35:19.680 the interesting

00:35:21.640 dynamic

00:35:22.340 is that

00:35:23.200 what Canadians

00:35:24.240 will go along

00:35:25.120 with

00:35:25.520 when Canada

00:35:26.660 isn't actually

00:35:27.340 as far gone

00:35:28.340 as the US

00:35:28.960 is as far

00:35:29.560 as coronavirus

00:35:30.100 goes

00:35:30.760 versus what

00:35:31.840 Americans

00:35:32.320 who have

00:35:33.340 more of an

00:35:34.080 issue right now

00:35:35.000 with the virus

00:35:35.880 will push back

00:35:37.740 against

00:35:38.060 it's a very

00:35:38.640 interesting dynamic

00:35:39.680 because Americans

00:35:40.760 love them

00:35:41.520 or hate them

00:35:41.940 love their rights

00:35:43.120 and they love

00:35:43.720 their freedom

00:35:44.260 and they are

00:35:45.020 not going to

00:35:45.680 take a

00:35:46.320 state-ordered

00:35:47.240 lockdown

00:35:47.940 lying down.

00:35:49.680 Whereas Canadians 1.00

00:35:50.800 will willfully

00:35:51.640 hand everything

00:35:52.260 over

00:35:52.560 that's one

00:35:53.460 of the larger

00:35:54.120 contrasts

00:35:54.960 between these

00:35:55.460 two countries

00:35:56.080 and I'm

00:35:56.960 seeing it

00:35:57.540 more accentuated

00:35:58.600 now.

00:35:59.840 So yes

00:36:00.660 there has to

00:36:01.300 be a balancing

00:36:01.940 act

00:36:02.340 I think the

00:36:02.880 valid argument

00:36:03.640 that that

00:36:04.200 CP story

00:36:05.120 put out

00:36:05.580 you should

00:36:06.180 never lose

00:36:06.700 sight of

00:36:06.980 your rights

00:36:07.420 even if

00:36:08.300 things become

00:36:08.880 more malleable

00:36:09.640 the rights

00:36:10.220 themselves

00:36:10.780 are firm

00:36:11.440 but my

00:36:12.640 goodness

00:36:13.180 when I

00:36:13.800 see police

00:36:14.880 that are

00:36:15.480 going after

00:36:16.380 people

00:36:16.720 and again

00:36:17.320 for police

00:36:18.240 to enforce

00:36:19.000 these things

00:36:19.780 requires them

00:36:21.100 to violate

00:36:22.080 the social

00:36:23.120 distancing

00:36:23.600 that the

00:36:24.060 supposed

00:36:24.460 scoff law

00:36:25.340 isn't

00:36:25.740 violating

00:36:26.300 and it's

00:36:27.960 the same

00:36:28.300 as masks

00:36:28.980 look the

00:36:29.620 Canadian

00:36:29.940 government

00:36:30.360 has been

00:36:30.840 saying no

00:36:31.460 masks

00:36:31.940 no masks

00:36:32.580 no masks

00:36:33.140 you don't

00:36:33.440 need them

00:36:33.720 unless you're

00:36:34.200 sick

00:36:34.440 then they

00:36:35.240 were talking

00:36:35.740 about asymptomatic

00:36:36.580 transmission

00:36:37.220 the risk

00:36:38.040 there being

00:36:38.640 that if you

00:36:39.420 have the virus

00:36:40.200 and don't

00:36:40.600 know you

00:36:40.920 have it

00:36:41.240 you can

00:36:41.500 still spread

00:36:42.060 it

00:36:42.240 and now

00:36:43.280 it seems

00:36:43.780 like the

00:36:44.160 Canadian

00:36:44.560 government

00:36:45.020 is even

00:36:45.460 waffling

00:36:46.140 on the

00:36:47.100 mask

00:36:47.580 this is

00:36:48.100 a page

00:36:48.860 from the

00:36:49.220 government

00:36:49.480 of Canada

00:36:49.900 website

00:36:50.440 considerations

00:36:51.300 in the

00:36:52.080 use of

00:36:52.540 homemade

00:36:53.000 masks

00:36:53.560 to protect

00:36:54.400 against

00:36:54.740 COVID-19

00:36:55.520 they're

00:36:56.200 talking about

00:36:56.760 people that

00:36:57.180 are making

00:36:57.600 their own

00:36:58.060 masks

00:36:58.520 out of

00:36:58.940 cloth

00:36:59.420 or they're

00:37:00.020 you know

00:37:00.280 maybe using

00:37:00.840 a scarf

00:37:01.340 or something

00:37:01.900 and they're

00:37:03.620 saying that

00:37:04.000 they're not

00:37:04.300 medical devices

00:37:05.100 they're not

00:37:05.600 regulated

00:37:06.120 they haven't

00:37:06.620 been tested

00:37:07.140 all of the

00:37:07.680 disclaimers

00:37:08.300 that you need

00:37:08.720 to get out

00:37:09.100 of the way

00:37:09.480 but then

00:37:10.460 interestingly

00:37:10.960 enough

00:37:11.240 they say

00:37:11.680 if you are

00:37:12.540 a healthy

00:37:13.060 individual

00:37:13.780 the use

00:37:14.360 of a

00:37:14.620 mask

00:37:14.940 is not

00:37:15.600 recommended

00:37:16.500 for preventing

00:37:17.160 the spread

00:37:17.620 of COVID-19

00:37:18.500 wearing a

00:37:19.460 mask

00:37:19.740 when you're

00:37:20.040 not ill

00:37:20.440 may give

00:37:21.120 you a 0.57

00:37:21.520 false

00:37:21.840 sense

00:37:22.160 of security

00:37:22.800 there is

00:37:23.520 a potential

00:37:24.160 risk of

00:37:24.780 infection

00:37:25.240 with improper

00:37:26.700 mask

00:37:27.520 use

00:37:27.980 and

00:37:28.200 disposal

00:37:28.700 they also

00:37:30.620 need to

00:37:31.080 be changed

00:37:31.580 frequently

00:37:32.100 so this

00:37:33.580 mask

00:37:34.080 thing is

00:37:34.600 absolutely

00:37:35.260 insane

00:37:35.840 and in

00:37:36.260 fact the

00:37:36.620 point that

00:37:37.120 I had

00:37:37.460 raised

00:37:38.040 last week

00:37:39.300 and I'm

00:37:39.600 not a

00:37:39.900 doctor by

00:37:40.440 any

00:37:40.820 stretch

00:37:41.220 in fact

00:37:41.520 I know

00:37:41.760 very little

00:37:42.320 about

00:37:42.640 the things

00:37:43.480 that the

00:37:43.840 so-called

00:37:44.240 experts

00:37:44.800 know about

00:37:45.580 was that

00:37:46.880 if we have

00:37:48.400 asymptomatic

00:37:48.980 transmission

00:37:49.580 and if we

00:37:50.360 have all

00:37:50.700 of these

00:37:51.040 cases where

00:37:52.020 people could

00:37:52.480 be transmitting

00:37:53.140 the virus

00:37:53.640 but don't

00:37:54.080 know they

00:37:54.380 have the

00:37:54.900 virus

00:37:55.280 then it

00:37:56.040 stands to

00:37:56.840 reason that

00:37:57.500 wearing a

00:37:58.040 mask would

00:37:58.440 be a good

00:37:58.800 precaution

00:37:59.420 in the

00:38:00.080 better than

00:38:00.620 nothing column

00:38:01.320 and I

00:38:01.580 thought this

00:38:01.940 was entirely

00:38:02.840 sensible

00:38:03.520 it was just

00:38:04.120 based on

00:38:04.580 logic

00:38:05.080 it wasn't

00:38:05.520 based on

00:38:05.940 having a

00:38:06.400 medical

00:38:06.680 degree

00:38:07.100 and the

00:38:07.780 federal

00:38:08.000 government

00:38:08.420 still said

00:38:08.920 oh no

00:38:09.220 no

00:38:09.340 we don't

00:38:09.980 recommend

00:38:10.540 masks

00:38:11.080 and then

00:38:11.980 Monday

00:38:12.660 comes

00:38:13.320 and

00:38:13.820 Teresa

00:38:14.280 Tam

00:38:14.800 after

00:38:15.320 everyone

00:38:15.620 was given

00:38:15.920 a bit

00:38:16.120 of a

00:38:16.320 heads

00:38:16.540 up

00:38:16.720 by

00:38:16.900 Justin

00:38:17.240 Trudeau

00:38:17.720 gets on

00:38:18.600 there

00:38:18.740 and reverses

00:38:19.800 everything the

00:38:20.820 Canadian government

00:38:21.580 has been saying

00:38:22.380 in fact everything

00:38:23.020 she's been saying

00:38:24.140 for the last

00:38:25.300 several weeks

00:38:26.380 let's roll

00:38:26.820 this clip

00:38:27.340 she said everything

00:38:48.880 that I said last

00:38:49.700 week

00:38:50.040 now I'm not

00:38:50.860 saying that

00:38:51.680 she was taking

00:38:52.640 her cues from

00:38:53.320 me

00:38:53.580 just that

00:38:54.380 everyone in

00:38:55.260 the world

00:38:55.900 could figure

00:38:56.560 this out

00:38:57.080 except for

00:38:58.040 Canada's

00:38:58.800 public health

00:38:59.780 officials

00:39:00.200 apparently

00:39:00.740 they're following

00:39:01.660 CDC

00:39:02.180 they're following

00:39:02.880 countries that

00:39:03.580 have had

00:39:03.900 successful

00:39:04.480 track records

00:39:05.960 at mitigating

00:39:06.840 the virus

00:39:07.380 like Taiwan

00:39:08.060 and South

00:39:08.660 Korea 0.61

00:39:09.020 and Japan

00:39:09.860 they're following

00:39:11.000 all of these

00:39:11.680 people that

00:39:12.120 figured this

00:39:12.560 out weeks

00:39:13.040 ago

00:39:13.300 and only now

00:39:13.860 are saying

00:39:14.180 well yeah

00:39:14.600 we think

00:39:15.320 that masks

00:39:15.780 might be

00:39:16.120 helpful to

00:39:16.580 prevent

00:39:16.860 people from

00:39:17.600 transmitting

00:39:18.380 oh my

00:39:19.640 goodness

00:39:20.180 so the

00:39:21.920 issues there

00:39:22.700 and we

00:39:23.000 talked about

00:39:23.740 this last

00:39:24.300 week with

00:39:24.720 Teresa Tam's

00:39:25.600 verbal pretzel

00:39:26.440 answer on

00:39:27.080 this

00:39:27.260 the issue

00:39:28.460 has nothing

00:39:29.260 to do with

00:39:29.800 masks not

00:39:30.780 working

00:39:31.380 the issue

00:39:32.580 is that

00:39:33.220 masks need

00:39:34.220 to be used

00:39:34.900 properly

00:39:35.560 and not

00:39:36.720 reused over

00:39:37.580 and over

00:39:37.920 if you're

00:39:38.420 going to

00:39:38.900 use them

00:39:39.440 and you

00:39:39.960 know when

00:39:40.500 I talked

00:39:41.220 in my

00:39:41.880 most recent

00:39:42.580 episode about

00:39:43.360 the tyranny

00:39:43.900 of experts

00:39:44.440 this is what

00:39:45.220 I'm talking

00:39:45.740 about the

00:39:46.160 fact that

00:39:46.540 the expertise

00:39:47.140 isn't even

00:39:48.080 staying as

00:39:49.300 static as

00:39:50.700 science is

00:39:51.320 supposed to

00:39:52.000 stay or as

00:39:53.080 you know what

00:39:53.500 truth is supposed

00:39:54.340 to be and

00:39:55.380 we're just

00:39:55.920 going all

00:39:56.460 willy-nilly

00:39:56.940 all over the

00:39:57.600 map with it

00:39:58.160 you know

00:39:58.660 Andrew Scheer

00:39:59.400 did a press

00:40:00.220 conference and

00:40:00.740 I was calling

00:40:01.320 into it and

00:40:02.220 I asked about

00:40:02.900 this do you

00:40:03.580 have faith in

00:40:04.460 the experts

00:40:05.320 that Justin

00:40:06.840 Trudeau has

00:40:08.300 relied on

00:40:09.180 every step of

00:40:09.760 the way

00:40:09.980 this is that

00:40:10.660 exchange with

00:40:11.240 Andrew Scheer

00:40:12.320 Good morning

00:40:12.800 Mr. Scheer

00:40:13.420 going back

00:40:14.040 to January

00:40:14.940 it seems like

00:40:15.940 there's been a

00:40:16.360 lot of conflicting

00:40:17.080 information from

00:40:18.180 public health

00:40:19.220 originally we were

00:40:20.040 told by Dr.

00:40:20.960 Theresa Tam

00:40:21.600 there was no

00:40:22.180 real risk to

00:40:22.940 Canadians

00:40:23.420 at one point

00:40:24.700 she was more

00:40:25.380 focused on

00:40:26.260 promoting an

00:40:27.500 anti-racism

00:40:28.220 strategy with

00:40:28.960 coronavirus

00:40:29.460 and then of

00:40:30.860 course we had

00:40:31.460 advice from

00:40:32.000 public health

00:40:32.580 that travel

00:40:33.520 bans were

00:40:34.340 ineffective

00:40:34.820 and would be

00:40:35.320 bad ideas

00:40:36.040 and this past

00:40:37.000 week and perhaps

00:40:38.400 two weeks

00:40:38.900 there's been

00:40:39.360 confusion about

00:40:40.360 whether masks

00:40:41.520 for just

00:40:42.520 average Canadians

00:40:43.380 going to the

00:40:44.280 grocery stores

00:40:45.000 are important

00:40:45.740 but I guess

00:40:46.060 the question

00:40:46.480 is do you

00:40:46.900 have faith

00:40:47.500 in our

00:40:48.240 public health

00:40:48.820 officials at

00:40:49.400 this time?

00:40:50.860 Well like

00:40:51.180 many Canadians

00:40:51.880 I'm always

00:40:52.840 concerned when

00:40:53.600 we're told

00:40:54.140 one thing

00:40:55.020 one week

00:40:55.600 and then

00:40:56.000 something

00:40:56.500 completely

00:40:56.920 different

00:40:57.320 just a few

00:40:58.440 days later

00:40:58.960 conservatives

00:40:59.700 were calling

00:41:00.260 for travel

00:41:01.340 restrictions

00:41:01.900 to be put

00:41:02.820 in place

00:41:03.360 from countries

00:41:04.640 where there

00:41:05.880 had been

00:41:06.140 experience

00:41:06.780 from countries

00:41:08.720 who had

00:41:08.920 experienced a

00:41:09.480 surge

00:41:09.740 in the

00:41:10.380 number of

00:41:10.760 cases

00:41:11.020 of course

00:41:11.400 the government

00:41:11.740 told us

00:41:12.160 that wasn't

00:41:12.660 necessary

00:41:13.100 only to do

00:41:14.380 the exact

00:41:15.140 same thing

00:41:15.600 just a few

00:41:16.060 days later

00:41:16.640 so this is

00:41:17.260 why we believe

00:41:17.940 it's so important

00:41:18.680 to have regular

00:41:19.740 accountability sessions

00:41:20.720 in the House of Commons

00:41:21.840 so that we can

00:41:22.460 find out exactly

00:41:23.380 why decisions

00:41:24.860 are made

00:41:25.300 and why

00:41:25.980 directions

00:41:27.240 are changed

00:41:29.300 in a short

00:41:30.500 period of time

00:41:30.940 we can hold

00:41:31.480 officials responsible

00:41:32.820 for that

00:41:33.460 and we can get

00:41:34.180 a better understanding

00:41:34.920 from ministers

00:41:35.480 so that's why

00:41:36.080 we are pushing

00:41:36.720 for regular

00:41:38.120 accountability

00:41:38.820 and oversight

00:41:39.660 sessions

00:41:40.960 in the House

00:41:41.640 of Commons

00:41:42.160 that is the

00:41:42.640 best place

00:41:43.200 to hold

00:41:44.020 ministers

00:41:44.380 responsible

00:41:44.900 for their

00:41:45.420 departments

00:41:45.760 and for the

00:41:46.180 actions of

00:41:46.660 the officials

00:41:47.240 who report

00:41:48.420 to them

00:41:49.220 we believe

00:41:50.280 that it is

00:41:51.000 with extra

00:41:52.120 scrutiny

00:41:52.700 with peer review

00:41:54.320 with a better

00:41:55.240 understanding

00:41:55.780 of the thinking

00:41:56.280 that goes on

00:41:56.960 behind the decisions

00:41:58.260 that we can get

00:41:59.040 the best outcomes

00:41:59.720 for Canadians

00:42:00.300 and that's part

00:42:00.860 of this team

00:42:01.440 Canada approach

00:42:02.640 that we are

00:42:03.860 fully cooperative

00:42:04.740 with

00:42:05.340 that we are

00:42:06.160 excited to be

00:42:06.900 a part of

00:42:07.380 we believe

00:42:08.100 the best place

00:42:08.740 for that team

00:42:09.380 Canada approach

00:42:10.180 is in the

00:42:10.580 House of Commons

00:42:11.200 in the Chamber

00:42:11.740 where ministers

00:42:13.000 can be held

00:42:13.980 accountable

00:42:14.640 for their

00:42:15.040 decisions

00:42:15.400 and they can

00:42:15.840 provide greater

00:42:17.000 clarity

00:42:17.520 as to the

00:42:18.380 government's

00:42:18.680 response to

00:42:19.240 this crisis

00:42:19.780 you know I

00:42:20.380 thought he

00:42:20.740 made a very

00:42:21.640 solid point

00:42:22.340 there

00:42:22.560 look I mean

00:42:23.040 yes we have

00:42:24.900 to approach

00:42:25.620 this with

00:42:26.080 skepticism

00:42:26.760 just because

00:42:27.760 they are experts

00:42:28.680 and just because

00:42:29.320 they're not

00:42:29.720 political figures

00:42:30.760 and they're not

00:42:31.320 politicians

00:42:31.840 doesn't mean

00:42:32.800 that we should

00:42:33.260 accept everything

00:42:34.000 at pardon the pun

00:42:35.180 face value

00:42:35.940 or face mask

00:42:36.700 value

00:42:37.140 so I don't

00:42:38.800 know what's

00:42:39.580 going to happen

00:42:40.340 in the coming

00:42:41.080 days what I do

00:42:42.200 know is that

00:42:42.980 at this point

00:42:44.000 any of these

00:42:44.720 recommendations

00:42:45.280 from the

00:42:45.960 government

00:42:46.300 you shouldn't

00:42:47.380 ignore

00:42:48.040 but you should

00:42:49.360 take with a

00:42:50.520 healthy dose

00:42:51.220 of skepticism

00:42:52.020 given that

00:42:52.580 they're going to

00:42:53.260 be all over

00:42:53.760 the map as

00:42:54.260 well I mean if

00:42:54.900 you can get a

00:42:55.400 mask for yourself

00:42:56.080 or you want to

00:42:56.620 wear a mask

00:42:57.080 it's not going

00:42:57.660 to hurt you

00:42:58.360 at this point

00:42:59.460 if you're doing

00:43:00.060 it the right way

00:43:01.440 and you're not

00:43:01.980 you know handling

00:43:03.220 it and touching

00:43:03.840 your face

00:43:04.340 and all of that

00:43:04.880 stuff

00:43:05.140 but interestingly

00:43:06.680 what they even

00:43:07.200 said is you know

00:43:08.060 if you're not

00:43:08.660 going to if it's

00:43:09.560 going to prevent

00:43:10.100 you from touching

00:43:10.700 your face and

00:43:11.240 nose that it's a

00:43:11.920 positive so

00:43:12.900 already what was

00:43:13.920 originally this

00:43:14.660 unequivocal no you

00:43:16.500 don't need a mask

00:43:17.500 is now littered with

00:43:19.240 all of these

00:43:19.800 conditions that makes

00:43:20.800 you wonder whether

00:43:21.540 it was ever solid

00:43:22.660 medical advice in

00:43:24.120 the first place and

00:43:25.280 we're going to see

00:43:25.960 more of these we're

00:43:27.160 going to see more

00:43:27.900 of these so I

00:43:28.860 mean when all of

00:43:29.420 this stuff was

00:43:30.140 happening with

00:43:30.700 Trump and 3M

00:43:31.660 and Canada

00:43:32.200 and the masks

00:43:33.180 and I'm like you

00:43:33.760 know the issue

00:43:34.920 is full stop

00:43:36.280 the Canadian

00:43:36.940 government doesn't

00:43:38.680 want there to be

00:43:39.960 a shortage of

00:43:40.720 masks that is

00:43:41.600 prolonged because

00:43:42.920 everyone who's

00:43:43.720 leaving home wants

00:43:44.760 a mask and I

00:43:45.420 get that and I

00:43:46.640 get that a

00:43:47.020 healthcare worker

00:43:47.660 is more in need

00:43:48.900 of it than I

00:43:49.540 am I think that's

00:43:50.720 entirely valid to

00:43:51.900 say but you

00:43:52.900 can't fudge the

00:43:55.020 data just to

00:43:57.220 achieve that

00:43:57.980 outcome which it

00:43:58.840 seems like was

00:43:59.980 happening here you

00:44:00.660 can't fudge the

00:44:01.340 data just because

00:44:02.060 you want to make

00:44:02.700 it so that not

00:44:04.220 everyone else is

00:44:06.200 going to have these

00:44:06.820 masks when you want

00:44:07.560 them for healthcare

00:44:08.160 workers you know

00:44:09.320 there have been

00:44:09.980 some bizarre lines

00:44:11.980 that have been

00:44:12.360 drawn here on

00:44:13.580 this and a lot a

00:44:14.980 lot of the so-called

00:44:15.980 woke brigade I

00:44:16.980 think have had to

00:44:17.760 suspend their

00:44:19.220 wokeness such as in 0.93

00:44:20.340 San Francisco where

00:44:21.420 the ban on plastic

00:44:23.460 bags has now been

00:44:24.340 reversed and not

00:44:25.740 just reversed replaced

00:44:26.920 with a ban on

00:44:28.120 reusable bags so

00:44:29.680 there's a Sobeys

00:44:31.020 near me and I

00:44:31.900 actually wanted to

00:44:32.800 boycott the Sobeys

00:44:33.800 when they put a

00:44:35.600 ban on plastic

00:44:36.320 bags I think it

00:44:37.240 was January or

00:44:38.180 February it was

00:44:38.560 earlier this year

00:44:39.200 anyway and I

00:44:40.740 didn't really get

00:44:41.300 the chance to

00:44:41.920 because now it's

00:44:43.480 like the closest

00:44:44.040 grocery store and

00:44:44.800 they have toilet

00:44:45.320 paper sometimes but

00:44:46.620 the interesting thing

00:44:47.480 about it is that

00:44:48.460 Sobeys is between a

00:44:49.700 rock and a hard

00:44:50.300 place because in

00:44:51.320 Canada they got 0.91

00:44:52.140 rid of plastic bags

00:44:53.140 and now the only way

00:44:54.560 to shop there is to

00:44:55.440 bring your germ

00:44:56.240 laden and your

00:44:58.280 reusable bags in

00:44:59.260 there and they've

00:44:59.980 got these really

00:45:00.600 you know cheap

00:45:01.440 crappy paper bags

00:45:02.420 you can buy but

00:45:03.220 you know if you're

00:45:03.700 going to buy a bag

00:45:04.340 you want it to be

00:45:04.880 one that's not

00:45:05.460 going to rip before

00:45:06.740 you get to the

00:45:07.260 car so that was a

00:45:09.080 I think an

00:45:09.440 interesting dynamic

00:45:10.360 also in India

00:45:12.200 twins born during

00:45:13.480 the pandemic have

00:45:14.260 been given names

00:45:15.280 COVID and Corona

00:45:17.120 now this is not

00:45:18.600 even just about

00:45:19.460 whether or not

00:45:21.120 they were conceived

00:45:22.600 because they were

00:45:23.480 already conceived

00:45:24.200 nine months before

00:45:25.040 the pandemic but

00:45:26.340 still born during

00:45:27.220 this time COVID

00:45:28.160 and Corona are

00:45:29.420 their names take

00:45:30.860 from that whatever

00:45:31.380 you will the

00:45:32.580 Malaysian government

00:45:33.800 apologizes for

00:45:35.620 advising women to

00:45:37.640 wear makeup and

00:45:38.940 not nag during 0.91

00:45:40.440 lockdown now out of

00:45:42.180 interest for my life

00:45:43.560 and my health and

00:45:44.240 my well-being I will

00:45:45.020 not comment on the

00:45:45.780 story your mileage

00:45:47.000 may vary a

00:45:48.000 Malaysian government

00:45:48.700 apologizes though so

00:45:49.940 even the Malaysian

00:45:50.980 government whoever

00:45:52.080 made that order was

00:45:52.980 presumably nagged by

00:45:54.140 his unmade up wife 0.85

00:45:55.880 after to such a

00:45:57.460 point that he could

00:45:58.140 withdraw that advice

00:45:59.700 that was given there

00:46:00.700 it was actually kind of

00:46:01.980 funny because everyone

00:46:03.220 has suspended their

00:46:04.120 rules of you know I

00:46:06.100 think standard grooming

00:46:06.960 men and women so you

00:46:08.600 can't just target the

00:46:09.400 one in that case I have

00:46:10.880 to go on camera so I

00:46:11.940 have to put on a shirt

00:46:12.760 but am I wearing pants

00:46:13.780 find out next week we

00:46:15.340 will have to wrap it up

00:46:16.460 there my thanks to all

00:46:17.480 of you for tuning in to

00:46:18.760 the show we'll be back

00:46:19.960 in just a couple of days

00:46:21.020 on the Andrew Lawton

00:46:22.180 show here on true

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00:46:24.060 bless stay healthy

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Juno News - April 07, 2020

Politburo Patty, Chinese Lies, and the Politics of Masks

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