Juno News - September 19, 2021


PPC candidate says only her party is standing up for choice


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Nadine Mulwood is running for the People s Party of Canada in the upcoming election. In this episode, Andrew Lawton speaks with Nadine about her campaign and why she thinks things could be different than they were in 2019.

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00:00:00.000 You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:00:07.020 So who are you and what are you doing? What are you running for?
00:00:09.900 Who am I? Nadine Mulwood, People's Party of Canada candidate for Banff AirDream.
00:00:15.620 And what am I doing? I asked myself that many times.
00:00:20.100 We needed a change. We have to have somebody who's going to defend our freedoms and our rights.
00:00:25.680 I'm a chartered investment manager.
00:00:27.520 Every time I listen to Trudeau sing, Aaron O'Toole, make more promises with money we don't have, it just hurts me.
00:00:36.100 So we have to get back to less government, not more.
00:00:40.220 And, you know, decided that in 2019, I understood the direction that Canada was headed in and got involved.
00:00:47.580 When I heard Maxime speak, I just kind of went, I did, I called him my unicorn of politics.
00:00:52.800 Because I went, this guy's a politician. He doesn't sound like a politician.
00:00:56.060 He's not speaking like a politician.
00:00:58.880 Common sense was prevailing.
00:01:01.920 And, you know, here I am again in 2021 doing it all over and with a much bigger reception this time around as people, I think, realize that Canada is at a crossroads.
00:01:14.780 Well, let me ask you about that.
00:01:15.760 Because in 2019, the PPC was new.
00:01:18.320 Maxime Bernier had a fair bit of momentum.
00:01:20.080 I think there was a lot of curiosity about what this party was going to be.
00:01:24.480 And the result of it was Maxime losing his seat and the party getting, I think, 1.6 percent of the votes.
00:01:29.360 1.2.
00:01:30.000 1.2 percent. All right.
00:01:31.700 An honest politician then.
00:01:33.000 But why do you think it's different two years later sufficiently that things could turn?
00:01:38.660 And again, I should preface that by saying we are seeing in the polls much higher support for PPC.
00:01:42.840 But I'm curious about why two years later that is different, you think?
00:01:47.400 Well, for one, we're not a new party anymore.
00:01:49.980 You know, people have and are hearing about us again and again.
00:01:53.840 For two, Max has been out on the road all throughout Canada and promoting the no more lockdowns, you know, and fighting for individuals' rights and freedoms.
00:02:04.880 So people, I think, are beginning to understand this is not about politics.
00:02:08.080 There's something much bigger at play here.
00:02:10.300 And, you know, right now, this election is not about NDP.
00:02:13.980 It's not about Conservative.
00:02:14.960 It's not about Liberal.
00:02:15.900 It's not about the Green Party.
00:02:17.400 The PPC is consolidating all of the votes across Canada, people who want to maintain what made Canada great, what makes us great, and that's our individual rights and freedoms.
00:02:30.040 I mean, if you look at John Diefenbaker, the Honorable John Diefenbaker, in 1960, he delivered the most, one of the most powerful speeches.
00:02:37.560 You know, I am Canadian.
00:02:39.180 I'm not afraid, you know, and that's what we're up against today.
00:02:43.780 We have every politician, Aaron O'Toole, every leader of every mainstream party that has said, you don't have the right to make the choice, your own medical choices.
00:02:54.460 And Max is the only one that's standing up against that.
00:02:57.080 And we are consolidating votes all across the country, not just the West, not just the East, the entire country based upon values, based upon principles, common sense principles.
00:03:08.100 And people are relating to that.
00:03:09.640 I think in 2019, there was a perception of the People's Party that it was this sort of ultra-conservative splinter from the Conservative Party of Canada.
00:03:18.640 And obviously, Maxime Bernier has used the line that the Conservative Party of Canada isn't a Conservative Party anymore.
00:03:24.160 But the coalition seems to be very different this time around.
00:03:27.540 And I think you can see that in the polling numbers.
00:03:29.360 Conservatives are leading the polls in a lot of cases.
00:03:31.800 But PPC is still managing to get, you know, 10, 11, 12 percent in some cases, certainly when you look in Alberta.
00:03:37.960 Where is that support coming from?
00:03:39.460 Because it can't just be from right of center voters.
00:03:42.240 No, it's not.
00:03:43.360 It's values based.
00:03:44.660 It's principled based.
00:03:45.680 So people this time around understand that this is not an election of, you know, Justin Trudeau or Aaron O'Toole.
00:03:52.140 This is election of whether or not we choose to live in a free country or you're going to choose to live under a totalitarian government.
00:03:58.400 And that's the part that is rallying, I think, our numbers.
00:04:03.780 We're uniting people from across all political spectrums.
00:04:07.700 That's the beauty of this.
00:04:09.200 You know, whereas Justin Trudeau and Aaron O'Toole are saying they're all trying to divide the country into vaccinated, unvaccinated, east versus west.
00:04:16.400 And the PPC has said we're not going to do that.
00:04:20.140 You know, we stand for values.
00:04:21.820 We stand for principles.
00:04:22.680 The founding principles, you know, of Canadian values, freedom, fairness, respect and responsibility.
00:04:30.560 And that's what people are attracted to.
00:04:33.020 And that's what people are coming, you know, in support of.
00:04:37.040 One of the reasons I'm interested in BAM Fairjory as a riding is because of just how many choices voters have.
00:04:42.820 It's getting a little bit crazy.
00:04:44.280 You've not just got the Conservative Party, the Liberal, the NDP, the PPC, you've got the Maverick Party, you've got, I think, three independents, including one who's fairly high profile within the Conservative movement.
00:04:54.580 And that's Derek Sloan.
00:04:56.120 First off, why has BAM Fairjory just become this clown car of candidates, to use a semi-pejorative term?
00:05:02.560 I think there's a number of reasons.
00:05:07.040 You know, Derek Sloan parachuted his way in here from Ontario.
00:05:10.600 You know, he has one foot in Ontario still with his wife running in his old riding.
00:05:15.160 He abandoned his constituents there because he didn't feel he could win.
00:05:21.540 And, you know, he's here to use Albertans and the Albertan Conservative vote.
00:05:26.560 And he has a personal vendetta.
00:05:28.180 And he has said this himself on a number of interviews.
00:05:31.960 He has a personal vendetta with Blake Richards.
00:05:34.460 And I agree.
00:05:35.980 Blake Richards has to go.
00:05:37.600 He has offered no value to this riding.
00:05:41.280 He's running for a fifth term.
00:05:43.480 You know, what more does he have to offer?
00:05:46.280 What can he contribute from here?
00:05:48.560 Very little.
00:05:49.740 Very little.
00:05:50.440 And he's the whip.
00:05:51.460 So not only has he taken the voice away from Banff-Airdrie constituents and residents,
00:05:57.460 but he's the one responsible for silencing our other 33 MPs, Albertan MPs.
00:06:04.900 And, you know, we only get 34 seats.
00:06:07.920 That's it.
00:06:08.400 That's all Alberta gets.
00:06:09.260 And we were already complaining about not getting enough representation.
00:06:12.140 And Derek Sloan comes to take one.
00:06:14.400 You know, I was very clear in my response to Derek Sloan and his announcement.
00:06:20.040 You know, people say I was a bit harsh.
00:06:21.800 No, it wasn't.
00:06:22.700 It really wasn't.
00:06:23.560 I'm not going to stand by as an Albertan of 16 years.
00:06:26.500 I've raised my family here.
00:06:28.260 You know, my husband is born and raised in Calgary.
00:06:30.880 This is my home.
00:06:32.400 This is my family.
00:06:34.180 And I'm not going to allow anybody from Ontario come in and say, oh, well, I'm here to save
00:06:38.660 you.
00:06:38.960 Step aside.
00:06:40.280 So he underestimated, I think, the strength of Albertans and the grit we actually have.
00:06:46.840 But yeah, he has a personal vendetta with Blake Richards.
00:06:50.000 It's all about Derek Sloan, regrettably.
00:06:52.080 And he'll have to answer for that in day 34.
00:06:54.880 You know, if he costs, you know, somebody like myself, for example, the opportunity to
00:07:00.580 have uprooted Blake Richards.
00:07:03.300 Now, when you talk about an Ontarian coming in and taking something from Alberta or trying 0.89
00:07:08.380 to speak for Albertan, certainly something we've seen in Canadian politics time and time
00:07:11.900 again, the Maverick Party makes the same claim about the PPC, that at the end of the
00:07:15.880 day, your leader, Maxime Bernier, is a Quebecer, not someone who's going to be looking
00:07:19.260 out for the Western interests.
00:07:20.940 So what is your response to that?
00:07:22.140 Jay Hill's from BC.
00:07:24.220 What does BC have to do in common, anything in common?
00:07:27.700 Like, so let's take a look at the lower mainland in BC.
00:07:30.480 What does that have to do, anything in common with Alberta, rural Alberta?
00:07:34.740 Absolutely nothing.
00:07:36.020 Right?
00:07:36.320 I am not.
00:07:37.640 So this is the thing.
00:07:38.680 Max props me up.
00:07:40.700 Max supports me.
00:07:41.720 Max comes here and says, Nadine, you're on the stage.
00:07:44.480 We stand side by side, right?
00:07:47.660 And he supports that.
00:07:48.880 He's supporting his candidates.
00:07:51.540 He's not here promoting himself necessarily as the leader.
00:07:55.260 Of course he is.
00:07:56.500 You know, he's the leader of the party.
00:07:57.820 But he's not, he doesn't take all the limelight, right?
00:08:01.760 He's propping up the Alberta.
00:08:03.620 And he says, you know, I asked him, I said, Max, you're going to silence me?
00:08:07.360 You know, in our video, Max is like, good luck with that.
00:08:10.560 No, of course not.
00:08:12.580 You know, he gives his MPs the freedom to speak.
00:08:14.700 I can sit here and have whatever conversation I want with you.
00:08:18.340 Max doesn't need to vet it.
00:08:19.660 He doesn't have to approve it.
00:08:22.420 As long as I agree with freedom, fairness, respect, and responsibility, you know, he understands
00:08:28.060 that, you know, MPs have the right to represent their constituents and their province first.
00:08:32.600 And that's what I will do.
00:08:33.820 So the Maverick Party, regrettably, they're dividing the country, East versus West.
00:08:39.680 The issues as they relate specifically to this election are not East versus West issues.
00:08:46.220 Some of the most strict lockdowns occurred in the East, Ontario and Quebec.
00:08:52.800 And what the PPC, again, is doing is we are uniting all those voices across the country.
00:09:00.280 And we are bringing everybody together.
00:09:02.580 Why would we alienate friends that we have in Eastern Canada or the Atlantic Canada or the Maritimes or in BC?
00:09:12.300 So that's the big difference.
00:09:14.040 And for me, I'm not a Western MP.
00:09:16.300 I have nothing in common with the lower mainland of BC.
00:09:20.140 I'm here to represent my constituents.
00:09:21.860 I'm here to represent my province.
00:09:23.340 And then everything else comes thereafter.
00:09:25.260 One of the challenges in being a new party, being a young party, is that the opportunities to get your message out aren't there.
00:09:33.600 We look at this week, of course, Maxime Bernier being excluded from the leaders debate.
00:09:38.680 He's also running as an outsider at the same time.
00:09:41.540 And in some cases, it may be entirely possible that not being in the debate works out better for him.
00:09:45.620 But I'm curious if you're finding people are actually aware of the PPC or if you're having to, when you go knocking on doors, introduce this party and this idea to them.
00:09:55.520 Yeah, there's not as much.
00:09:58.620 We're seeing more and more support.
00:10:00.780 I have people coming to find me, which that didn't happen the last time around.
00:10:05.720 So I'd say there's still probably about 30, 40 percent of people who have not heard of the PPC, which is probably our biggest challenge.
00:10:12.800 Because once we have an opportunity to speak to people and they see our platform, you know, CBC, for example, and they're, you know, the national, their little clip that they did, you know, they're sitting there and they're talking to people.
00:10:25.700 And the one gentleman, he's a veteran looking at our platform and he's like, yes, yes, yes.
00:10:30.020 It's kind of hard to disagree with freedom, fairness, respect and responsibility.
00:10:32.920 It's hard to disagree with giving people the right to make their own medical choices.
00:10:36.900 It's hard to disagree with fiscal responsibility.
00:10:39.700 You know, we can kill this country one of two ways.
00:10:41.580 The first is to destroy its freedoms.
00:10:44.420 And that's the destruction of democracy very quickly.
00:10:47.060 The other one is the destruction of fiscal responsibility.
00:10:50.260 And if you look at even Aaron O'Toole, who's going to print another hundred billion dollars and spend a hundred billion dollars in the next 10 years.
00:10:58.320 And then he claims he can balance the budget after that without making any cuttings, but, you know, cutting any expenses.
00:11:04.360 I sit here as a chartered investment manager and I, it just baffles me.
00:11:07.620 It's like, explain that to me because there's revenues and there's expenses.
00:11:11.020 So if you're not going to cut expenses, then what you're saying is you're going to increase taxes because that's, or you're going to continue to print money.
00:11:17.300 Well, printing money is the cause of inflation.
00:11:19.640 So you have 31% increase right now in food expenses.
00:11:23.740 You have fuel gone up because of carbon taxes.
00:11:27.600 You've got housing.
00:11:29.260 Housing is a direct, you could cut 20 to 40% of housing costs tomorrow by getting the government out of the way.
00:11:34.900 None of them are proposing smaller, less government.
00:11:38.640 Government is the biggest expense to Canadians.
00:11:41.020 So let's cut it.
00:11:42.380 Let's cut it.
00:11:43.360 And that's how we get back to affordable living.
00:11:45.580 You mentioned earlier the possibility that, you know, Derek Sloan, as one example, could split enough votes from you that it cost you the chance to take down Blake Richards.
00:11:55.280 With so many candidates here, vote splitting is a very real concern beyond what it could be in other ridings.
00:12:01.840 And I'm curious what the nightmare scenario for you is here.
00:12:04.760 Is it that the anti-Blake Richards vote is split and Blake Richards loses?
00:12:08.660 Or is it that the Conservative vote is split and something really crazy happens in Banff Airdrie, which is the election of an NDP or a Liberal?
00:12:16.300 Yeah, I don't see the election of an NDP or a Liberal here.
00:12:19.600 They did get 10% and 11% respectively in the last election.
00:12:24.360 And I don't think the candidates here are strong, to be honest.
00:12:28.420 So, and I think people in Alberta are pretty angry and upset with, you know, the socialist ideology, especially with the Liberal and the Conservative.
00:12:37.060 I think people have a hard time realizing that Aaron O'Toole shares that same ideology.
00:12:42.180 And I think that's just more, you know, deliberate willingness to overlook because they want to think that the Conservative Party is still Conservative.
00:12:51.440 But in reality, seeing a Liberal or a Conservative or an NDP get into this writing, Blake had 71% of the vote.
00:13:00.620 So the bigger concern is it would have been nicer to have the People's Party of Canada.
00:13:06.260 We now are polling at 19% in Alberta.
00:13:09.720 You know, like I said to you earlier, you know, for example, with Derek Sloan, if I were to collect, let's say, 28% of the vote and Derek Sloan collects eight, that's 36%.
00:13:21.480 That's, you know, half plus one.
00:13:24.500 And Blake Richards would have been out.
00:13:26.880 He's the one that will have to answer to Albertans for having cost them their opportunity to have a strong voice in Ottawa.
00:13:33.160 Thanks for listening to The Andrew Lawton Show.
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