Juno News - Prime Minister Mark Carney？

00:00:00.000 Welcome back everyone to another episode of the Northern Dispatch.

00:00:12.280 We're starting to get a better look at who will be Canada's next Prime Minister and it's

00:00:17.440 not going to be Pierre Polyev just yet.

00:00:20.240 It's looking as if it's going to be Mark Carney or Chrystia Freeland, a two horse race

00:00:24.960 after we got a very clear indication from Mark Carney that he will be entering the race

00:00:30.720 on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, an American television show, not a Canadian show.

00:00:36.240 An interesting place to really kickstart your leadership campaign there, Ryan.

00:00:41.600 Yeah, I was a little surprised to see it and felt I had to watch it.

00:00:47.920 But as I started to watch it, I started to understand what his strategy actually was.

00:00:54.960 He was looking to kind of announce this but not announce it in a bit of a bang.

00:01:00.080 He went on a left-friendly, popular comedy show.

00:01:05.520 A lot of people watched Jon Stewart.

00:01:07.440 He wanted the American media to pick this up as well as the Canadian media.

00:01:11.280 So I think he was trying to make as much of a splash as possible while having Jon Stewart

00:01:16.320 tell all of the left-leaning voters in Canada and the United States why they should think

00:01:22.400 the world of Mark Carney and they shouldn't like Pierre Polyev.

00:01:26.480 And Tanya, I guess it makes it easier when you are being interviewed by someone who has demonstrated

00:01:32.240 in that interview that he really has no idea of what's actually happening in this country.

00:01:36.960 Yeah, I think so.

00:01:38.160 And I just find it interesting that we have this individual who has aspirations of being the next

00:01:44.880 prime minister of the country. But instead of sitting down with Canadian journalists or Canadian

00:01:50.880 media or even Canadian alternate media, he wants to go on a talk show down in the States as if he's

00:01:58.240 some sort of celebrity.

00:01:59.360 Yeah, it's looking like it could be a coronation if the Christie of Freeland campaign doesn't get up

00:02:05.280 and running and quickly. As we promised on every show, we read the top comments from you, the viewer.

00:02:11.600 And we're going to do that right now. The first one we have comes from Lord Chancellor E5S.

00:02:17.680 Hidden corruption is scary, but open corruption ignored by the public is terrifying.

00:02:23.360 Well, that's why you have the independent media to go and uncover this stuff, because as we've seen time

00:02:29.120 and time again, the legacy media in this country are all too willing to let corruption go by without

00:02:35.760 any any coverage whatsoever. So this is from Juvie 9596. In the 35 years I've been in the workforce,

00:02:43.840 I've paid hundreds of thousands in tax dollars. Every Canadian has. I expect a functioning government

00:02:51.040 24 seven. We tax paying Canadians have earned a better situation than this. Let us vote for an election

00:02:58.800 now. Enough BS already. Yeah, I think that's a common sentiment among many Canadians. We don't

00:03:05.360 like it when our government goes on prorogation. I think the the belief is that they're not working

00:03:11.600 while they are working. They're just not legislating. So they're not creating new laws. They're not fixing

00:03:17.600 old laws. They're not changing things in the legislature for Canadians. However, your MP is still working.

00:03:25.040 Many of them are working in their constituencies. So if you need something from your MP, if you need

00:03:30.400 to make an appointment with them now would be a great time because they are available. And Gail

00:03:35.360 Littleton 2504 says, as a Canadian citizen, I can only hope the court will do justice and not support

00:03:42.640 prorogation. If they do uphold prorogation, they will have set a serious precedence for future prime

00:03:50.480 ministers. And as we have learned from the reign of Justin Trudeau, anything can and will happen.

00:03:57.520 Yeah, this is going to be an interesting one. I think constitutional scholars and parliamentary

00:04:01.760 scholars are going to be paying close attention to this as the JCCF has brought this court challenge

00:04:08.400 using the UK ruling from 2019 as precedence to support their argument. The question is going to be,

00:04:15.440 is the court going to agree with the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom? Or are they going to break

00:04:22.160 from that ruling and try to make their their own ruling and their own precedent, distinguishing us

00:04:28.240 from the mother parliament, as it were? All right, well, moving right along, guys, we have succeeded in

00:04:34.320 presenting a poll question to the audience that actually gives us some variety for once, it feels like. And

00:04:40.480 the last question was, as that comment indicated, will the court uphold the legal challenge on

00:04:47.360 prorogation? And 65% of the respondents agreed that the court will uphold prorogation in the comment

00:04:55.680 in the coming court challenge. And 34% said no. So that's some variety there. It's new for us on the show.

00:05:03.200 And that's why we're going to try this one more time with another poll question, which we hope you can

00:05:08.080 answer as if you were a Liberal Party supporter. We want to know to put yourself in that position,

00:05:15.360 because the question is this, who would be a better leader for the Liberal Party to challenge Pierre

00:05:21.680 Pauliev? We hope that we can get some interesting comments there and then give us some interesting

00:05:26.320 insights to talk about on the next show. So you can answer that poll question in the pinned comment on

00:05:32.560 this video. As we've hinted at, the show today is going to be focused on Mark Carney versus Christia

00:05:39.280 Freeland, essentially the race to the bottom for Liberal leader, who can become the Liberal leader

00:05:46.000 and next Prime Minister for what may be just a few weeks. And Mark Carney's announcement on the Daily

00:05:53.920 Show with Jon Stewart, and I'm going to call it an announcement because he didn't say it was his

00:05:57.520 official announcement, but it's about as official as you're going to get, was filled with basically

00:06:03.680 a gushing Jon Stewart, heaping praise on Mark Carney as the hero who led Canada through the financial

00:06:10.560 crisis. He really did figure out the best place to go for an easy interview. I mean,

00:06:15.360 that might be easier than you might get on CBC. I think you're right. I think you're right. And how

00:06:22.880 how amazing is it that the one person in Canada that did all the work to get us out of the 2008

00:06:29.600 financial crisis, you know, got the credit he deserved in front of all of the United States

00:06:36.480 and all of Canada. Nobody else helped. It was all Mark Carney. Thank goodness that he was alive

00:06:42.240 at that point in time. Like, come on. You know, there was so many moving parts to that recovery.

00:06:49.840 A lot of it needs to be attributed to the Conservative government and their fiscal prudence

00:06:54.320 under Harper. Were they perfect? Absolutely not. But I would have much rather Stephen Harper

00:07:00.080 navigate us through that than, let's say, oh, Justin Trudeau or Chrystia Freeland. That's for darn sure.

00:07:06.320 And Mark Carney, yeah, he was the governor of the Bank of Canada at that point. They make recommendations,

00:07:14.000 but all of the legislating and all of the strategy has to be executed by the government. And that's

00:07:21.600 what's happened. So would I attribute it all to Harper? No, but I would attribute a significant

00:07:27.120 portion to Harper and I wouldn't let it all rest on Carney. Well, and I think this appearance shows

00:07:32.400 that Carney is exactly like Trudeau. He's not interested in being a statesman. He's interested in pandering to

00:07:38.000 a crowd. And in this case, it was the crowd of The Daily Show. Yeah, those late night comedy shows,

00:07:44.480 and I guess you could put The Daily Show in that as well, with the live studio audience is like

00:07:48.960 almost a relic at this point where you have the clapping seals in the background just, you know,

00:07:53.520 fawning over the guest. Well, we got kind of an insight into what Mark Carney's, maybe not his campaign

00:08:00.400 slogan, but the message he's going to try to project to liberal voters and to Canadians. And that is

00:08:06.080 that Mark Carney is an outsider. Is he an outsider? No, I don't think he's an outsider at all. I think

00:08:11.760 he's been at least whispering in Justin Trudeau's ear since as early as 2020. And you can also see, you

00:08:20.000 know, in some of the previous work he's done, and even in his book, it kind of has like a century

00:08:24.480 initiative type feel to it. And then you have what was it maybe about six or eight months ago, where Carney

00:08:31.440 joined as an official advisor to the Prime Minister, he was hired by the party, meaning that he didn't

00:08:37.360 have to quit any of his other jobs, he didn't have to disclose any of his financial information the way

00:08:41.680 you would if you were an MP. Yet he still had a hand in guiding the financial directive of this country.

00:08:48.320 I don't think that's right. Well, and notice that in Christopher Freeland's resignation letter,

00:08:53.440 she didn't mention Mark Carney at all. She didn't criticize him. She was criticizing Justin Trudeau. So

00:08:59.840 I find it interesting how Carney was advising Trudeau, but he didn't get any of the criticism from

00:09:06.880 from Christopher Freeland. Now, is that because, you know, he's he's godfather to

00:09:13.040 to one of her kids? I don't know. But it's a little fishy how this, how this has shaken out.

00:09:20.480 Is that right? I didn't know that Mark Carney's a godfather to Christopher Freeland?

00:09:23.840 Want to at least one? Yeah, that'll make for a really interesting liberal leadership race.

00:09:29.520 And I did not know that interest. Yeah, it's. And that's why I've been very interested to see

00:09:35.360 them launch their campaigns, because how much mud are they going to sling at each other, if at all?

00:09:40.560 But even going further than that, which one is going to resign first to support the other one

00:09:45.840 in the liberal leadership race? Is it going to be Christopher Freeland, who has rode backbench to

00:09:50.880 a man in the feminist party for the last 10 years? Or is she going to suck it up again, 1.00

00:09:56.960 swallow her pride and humiliate herself by coming in behind Mark Carney again? Maybe she's hoping to

00:10:04.240 be finance minister again? I don't know. Finance minister for a couple more days. I mean, just check

00:10:09.600 it on to the to the Wikipedia page. That's really interesting. I didn't actually know that. And it'll

00:10:15.280 make for some really, really fun, really fun coverage. You know, to to play devil's advocate,

00:10:20.320 you can kind of anticipate how Mark Carney has decided to come about on this outsider lane,

00:10:26.400 right? Because we know Mark Carney is not an he's he's about as establishment as you can get without

00:10:32.560 being in government, a part of the WEF, basically a ranking member of the WEF, a part of some of these,

00:10:39.680 some of the biggest consulting firms, Bank of Canada, Bank of England governor and liberal advisor.

00:10:45.440 But he kind of hinted at that deal in that daily show interview that he's an outsider and Pierre

00:10:50.480 Polyev is the ultimate insider, a career politician, Mark Carney being, you know, never being a politician.

00:10:57.280 Do you how do you think the Canadians are going to see that? Do you think that the

00:11:01.520 the career politician line on Polyev might actually stick to some degree and Mark Carney might

00:11:06.880 actually be able to present himself as someone who's as he will eventually try to say, and we

00:11:11.840 know the liberals have said this, who has had a real job? I think, for example, if I need surgery,

00:11:19.360 I want a surgeon who's been a surgeon for 20 years. I don't want a surgeon who's been a banker for the

00:11:24.240 last 20 years. So I personally don't see a career in politics as necessarily a bad thing. I mean, Pierre

00:11:32.880 started off as a backbencher and he worked his way up to cabinet and then he worked his way up to

00:11:37.280 leader of the official opposition. Hopefully he's able to work his way up to prime minister,

00:11:41.280 because that's the natural progression of things. When you have a man who's been working in finance

00:11:47.200 his entire life. Yes, he's been a party member, but has never been a politician. Does he really know

00:11:51.760 the ins and outs of politics? Is he able to just jump in and be prime minister? I would argue no.

00:11:57.520 Well, and here's another couple of points that I would raise. Pierre Polyev has been a career

00:12:02.800 politician all this time because he's good at it. If he wasn't good at it and if his constituents

00:12:08.080 didn't believe in what he was doing, didn't like what he was doing, he wouldn't be there anymore.

00:12:12.880 The other thing is that he has been spending the last two years traveling the country, visiting every

00:12:20.320 single community, it seems, that is actually in Canada. It doesn't matter how small or how large,

00:12:27.360 he's been there. So he understands what is going on in Canada. What has Carney been doing?

00:12:33.280 He has, he's most recently been, you know, on these boards for these global national

00:12:39.760 organizations. Before that, Harrison, you mentioned he was the governor for the Bank of UK, where

00:12:45.120 he had a home that was paid for by taxpayer money that was $26,000 Canadian per month.

00:12:52.160 It was a mansion. And this is the type of lifestyle this guy's, this guy's used to. And what he thinks

00:12:58.240 he's just going to stroll in, like he's a CEO on a golf course and just take over the the prime minister

00:13:05.040 position in Canada. And is he going out meeting with Canadians in his leadership bid? No, he goes down

00:13:12.880 to The Daily Show to get on with Jon Stewart. It's about as out of touch as you can get. But the problem is,

00:13:18.800 is that a lot of liberal voters don't know who Mark Carney is, because they haven't really paid attention

00:13:24.000 to it. And who are they going to get the story of who he is, they're going to get it from mainstream

00:13:28.640 media, which is just gushing over him. And I don't know if you noticed, Harrison, but the last few days

00:13:33.440 we've noticed on social media, especially on X, that there's a lot of people that are really cheering

00:13:39.920 Carney on. It feels inorganic to me. But of course, I have no proof of that.

00:13:46.240 Yeah, it's interesting. You know, there's always these weird moments on X where you see just as a

00:13:53.040 surge in comments on one person or another. And who knows if that's, you know, another country trying

00:13:59.840 to do this if they see Carney as someone who can be manipulated. Now we're really now we're really

00:14:04.960 jumping there. But but it's it's worth mentioning that, you know, you do see these odd surges in

00:14:10.560 popularity on X for certain candidates. And we already know our political system is compromised.

00:14:15.600 You know, I see this being, you know, one of those examples you talk about out of touch, Ryan.

00:14:20.960 Right now we're seeing what I think is a realignment where this idea of globalism is dying.

00:14:26.160 Nationalism is making a comeback. And Mark Carney truly is, in my opinion, the ultimate globalist.

00:14:31.760 Not only does he go on to an American talk show to talk about his candidacy, he is at the WEF every

00:14:38.320 year at the WEF. I believe it was his last appearance. He said that, well, he was talking

00:14:44.160 about his Irish citizenship and answered a question, albeit jokingly. But still, it is an odd joke to

00:14:49.760 make. He says, you know, speaking as a European, speaking as a European, take a look at this.

00:14:56.240 Mark, you look like you were about to. Yeah, I was a tell as a European, you know, as a

00:15:00.480 European actually. Oh, you are. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. Well, speaking as a European,

00:15:08.640 I'd like to say falling. So there we go. The next the next prime minister of Canada, potentially,

00:15:14.000 what seems to be likely at this point, considers himself sometimes to be European. Sometimes he

00:15:19.440 considers himself to be a Canadian. I don't think we have time for that. And it's quite clear now 1.00

00:15:24.560 that this era of globalism and people who who are prancing around the global stage are not listening

00:15:32.080 to the Canadian public and are not just tuned into the moment at all right now. Well, and he is the

00:15:39.760 the establishment chameleon, it seems. He changes his spots for whatever is most advantageous to him.

00:15:47.680 You know, he wrote a whole book about how, you know, there should almost be a, you know, technocracy

00:15:53.280 and we should be limiting what people are purchasing in terms of their purchasing freedom

00:16:00.240 or making it so expensive that it's almost impossible to do that in order to fit ourselves

00:16:06.720 into this environmental climate change fanaticism. So he talks about the carbon tax, how it's so

00:16:14.000 invaluable. And even on I believe the The Daily Show, he said, Well, yeah, we need a carbon tax,

00:16:19.040 but maybe just not now. Okay. So when when are we getting that carbon tax and Carney because

00:16:24.960 you know that Canadians are really not in favor of it right now. So you're going to change your

00:16:31.760 spots on your policy just temporarily what until you get in and then then it's too late. And all these

00:16:37.920 policies come back to bite Canada. Canada needs to have a long memory as to what has happened in

00:16:43.200 Canada over the last 10 years. It wasn't a conservative government in power. It was a

00:16:47.040 liberal government with far left policies. So Canadians have to be very, very careful with who

00:16:54.000 they choose as the next Prime Minister in the next general election, but also who they're choosing to

00:17:00.160 lead this Liberal Party allegedly back to the radical center as Jean Chrétien has said, but

00:17:05.440 carbon tax Carney is anything but centered.

00:17:08.160 So I want to bring up a clip that will absolutely be seen by I think almost every Canadian if Mark

00:17:15.920 Carney does become the next Liberal leader in the next federal election. And it was really the first

00:17:20.720 time that we saw Pierre Polyev and Mark Carney go head to head back during the pandemic. And this was a

00:17:25.840 time when Mark Carney was working at a global consulting firm, one of the big one of the big ones. I'm not

00:17:32.400 exactly sure what I don't want to say the wrong name, but he was working at a global consulting firm.

00:17:37.360 And one of the one of the initiatives he was championing was was advancing Saudi Arabian oil,

00:17:43.360 right? He was he was trying to advance Saudi Arabian Middle Eastern oil at the same time testifying

00:17:50.800 to parliamentarians about limiting and shutting down Canadian energy. And there was a great interaction

00:17:57.120 between Polyev and Mark Carney back then. You'll see it again in the future, but we're going to play it for

00:18:01.600 you now on this show to give you a refresher. Take a look at this. Do you support the Prime

00:18:06.080 Minister's decision to veto the Northern Gateway pipeline, Mr. Carney?

00:18:13.520 I understand the veto of the Northern Gateway pipeline, given both environmental and commercial

00:18:21.680 reasons. Do you support it? I think it is sensible. I wasn't involved in the decision,

00:18:26.960 but I think it was the right decision. And yet your company has invested billions of dollars in oil

00:18:32.560 companies in both Brazil and the UAE to buy pipelines. You've you bought billions of dollars

00:18:39.680 of pipelines as a company in the last five years. Do you support those investments?

00:18:45.520 Mr. Polyev, there is a global energy system. And one of the issues I'm trying to explain a bit of how the

00:18:52.320 economy works. Thank you so much. Well, it may help. One of the issues for this committee in thinking

00:19:00.400 about a sustainable transition is where is Canada's role in those as energy transitions from fossil fuels

00:19:09.040 to renewables. And in different jurisdictions into different geography, it matters. It matters. And this

00:19:15.680 is a fundamental point. No, I'm sorry. This is a fundamental point. You're finally getting to a

00:19:21.520 point that is relevant to this committee's inquiry. What you're saying is you oppose pipelines in Canada,

00:19:28.560 but you support them in the UAE and in Brazil. That's what you've actually said. They're a specific

00:19:33.520 pipeline. That's your double standard. It is not a double standard. It is a double standard. No,

00:19:37.280 it's not. You make billions of dollars off foreign pipelines and you shut them down here at home,

00:19:41.920 putting our people out of work. I would remind you that you are a representative of the Canadian 1.00

00:19:45.840 people. And one of your responsibilities, including at this committee, is to fight for

00:19:50.320 Canadian jobs and not foreign jobs like you. Exactly. To fight for Canadian jobs and the types

00:19:55.840 of Canadian jobs that are durable and are going to move forward. I grew up in Alberta. I know the

00:20:01.440 innovative nature of that. Well, go try to give that answer back in Alberta because I grew up there

00:20:06.400 too. And I can tell you the people, yeah, I can tell you the people of Alberta to be ashamed with

00:20:11.360 the answer you just gave. So I guess, Tonya, that was round one in the fight between Paulyev and Mark

00:20:17.760 Carney, which is only going to continue heating up. But honestly, when I saw that for the, when it

00:20:23.920 happened live, I just couldn't believe the goal of someone like Mark Carney to genuinely be taking the

00:20:30.160 position that Canada needed to limit our natural resources, uh, extraction needed to like shrink

00:20:38.080 our natural resources market while also championing the cause of Saudi Arabian and Middle Eastern oil.

00:20:45.280 I just couldn't believe someone, a Canadian who claims to be a proud Canadian could actually do 1.00

00:20:49.760 something like that. Yeah. And this is the thing about these climate fanatics. I don't understand

00:20:55.680 anything they do. And I think the reason for that is because it's completely illogical. If you have

00:21:00.800 the resources here in Canada, it'll create jobs to extract them. It'll create jobs to sell them. 0.85

00:21:07.040 Why are we not doing this? Why are we not trying to expand the Canadian economy? Why do we have

00:21:12.400 zero pride in things that are produced in Canada? It is just unfathomable to me. Well, and even 0.98

00:21:18.800 listening to Carney's answer, um, the other way that the other reason it could be is this

00:21:23.360 just incessant elitism of these people that are on the far left. He seems to have this point of view,

00:21:30.560 if you believe him that, well, Canada is too enlightened to be pursuing natural gas. We're

00:21:36.880 too enlightened and we're, we're too elite to be, you know, messing with the dirty oil. We should be,

00:21:43.360 we should be focusing on only renewable energy. Let the Saudis, let the South Americans, 1.00

00:21:48.720 they, they're, they're all unsophisticated. So they're still messing around with dirty oil and

00:21:53.360 gas and it's understandable. Like, so either way you look at it, it's not a good look for the guy.

00:21:59.600 Yeah. And just don't, you know, as they say that don't look at, don't look at our, our, our wallets

00:22:04.240 increasing in size as well. I mean, to take money on that is just shocking. And, and I think that,

00:22:09.680 you know, the conservatives would be wise to make sure that almost every Canadian that has access to

00:22:14.880 the internet can see that clip because it really does give you an insight into, uh, into the

00:22:19.680 ideology of someone like Mark Carney. And of course he'll try to run away from it and he'll try to paint

00:22:24.080 himself as something different. But let me ask you both this, who is going to run more? Who's going

00:22:29.440 to run to the right? Uh, is it, is it going to be Freeland or is it going to be Carney to try to be the

00:22:34.640 more centrist candidate, to be the person who goes, let's bring the liberal party back to a normalcy

00:22:40.240 away from the array from the far left? Do you see what I'm trying to ask here? It's tough to phrase.

00:22:44.640 I do. Yeah. And I honestly don't know because they're both far left candidates. I mean, if either

00:22:51.760 of them are elected, we're just getting Justin Trudeau 2.0. So I really don't know how to answer your

00:22:58.160 question. Um, it's going to be interesting. I think, I think Freeland as much as she seems like she's

00:23:08.720 disconnected, uh, and unintelligent in front of the cameras. I think she is keenly aware

00:23:15.120 of the unpopularity of Justin Trudeau. That's why she made the move that she did. I think she's keenly

00:23:20.720 aware of all of the call it hate mail that she no doubt gets from Canadians all over the country,

00:23:27.680 not just her writing. And I, I would not be surprised if she takes the more Jean Chrétien's,

00:23:35.360 uh, Paul Martin stance on, on the liberal party versus, versus Mark Carney. And why is that?

00:23:41.040 Because she already, she's taken the first step in distancing herself from Justin Trudeau.

00:23:48.480 Mark Carney is on record, uh, through his book in all of his glory, in terms of what his policy

00:23:55.040 stances are. Chrystia Freeland, I think is going to try to make the attempt, albeit unsuccessfully, 0.99

00:24:00.320 to say, um, I've seen the error of the liberal ways. I've seen the error of Justin Trudeau.

00:24:07.040 And that's why I made that decision to stand up for Canadians. And I'm determined to lead us back

00:24:11.600 to a, a center left center ish type of party. So I think that's probably how it's going to go. Um,

00:24:19.120 but either way, Canadians should not be trusting either of these people. One voted for these policies

00:24:24.640 for 10 years. And the other has been writing a book that he endorses these policies for 10 years.

00:24:29.120 Right. And my, my thinking is that, you know, it's going to have to be Freeland because she has no

00:24:33.280 other choice. She is so inextricably linked to the government that if she tries to position herself to 0.99

00:24:39.520 the left of Carney, that, that she has no hope, right? The only chance she actually might have at,

00:24:45.200 at becoming prime minister for a few days, becoming the next Kim Campbell would be to try to be, you know,

00:24:50.160 to the center and run to the right of Carney. It's good that we, but we have you guys on this show

00:24:55.520 because we have a major procedure question that I have to just, I have to do it. Just ask to learn

00:25:01.040 about how this might all play out. So let's say Mark Carney wins. He becomes the next liberal leader,

00:25:07.920 the next prime minister. He doesn't have a seat in the house of commons. I did some research.

00:25:12.160 It appears as though this has happened twice in more recent times, most recently with John Turner

00:25:18.080 and, and, and before that, William Lyon, Mackenzie King, actually. In fact, I found out that Mackenzie

00:25:24.480 King managed to lead the liberals and win two elections while losing his seat in both of those

00:25:30.640 elections. So that's bizarre in and of itself, but so it is possible, right? Mark Carney could become

00:25:38.080 prime minister without a seat in the house of commons. How does that even work? Well, it comes down to how

00:25:44.640 the party system works in Canada. If you think about it this way, um, just in terms of math.

00:25:50.800 So the party that wins the most seats in the house of commons, they form government. Everybody,

00:25:56.240 everybody knows that that's just a basic democracy. So, but the party leadership is determined independent

00:26:04.000 of the house of commons and independent of a general election. Look at the Canada's future party,

00:26:08.800 look at the people's party of Canada. They have elected or in some cases appointed, but they've

00:26:14.160 elected their leaders, nothing to do with the general election. It's only within the party.

00:26:19.120 So if that party ends up winning the most seats in the house of commons, but the leader doesn't

00:26:23.840 by default, they still become the, uh, the governing party. And because our system says the party leader

00:26:31.280 is the one that actually takes the title, then that party leader would be the de facto prime minister

00:26:37.440 of Canada. It's very strange, but that's, that's how our system is set up. Now it doesn't happen very

00:26:44.880 often. And the precedent has been that it's expected that that prime minister or, or, or leader gain a

00:26:55.120 seat as soon as possible, either through a by-election or, or what have you, because otherwise

00:27:00.160 you're going to hear nothing in the media and nothing in the house of commons, but the fact that

00:27:05.360 the prime minister has no seat, can't govern properly, can't stand up and represent his constituents

00:27:09.760 in the house of commons. And they would just see drastic, drastic falls in the polls and public

00:27:16.080 opinion as a result of that. But it's a strange little hiccup that exists in our system.

00:27:21.520 So in that, in that, in that case, Mark Carney could just sit in the gallery of the house of

00:27:28.480 commons. If I'm correct in this instance, if he wanted to, he might be able to, you know, murmur

00:27:33.120 some heckling under his breath, but not very loudly. You know, he might get reprimanded by the speaker

00:27:38.320 or he could just go all out and just start laying in a heckle from the, from the gallery

00:27:42.720 and then be kicked out. But at least he got his points across. Like it would be so bizarre.

00:27:47.440 Do you think CPAC would like pan out of question period and like show Carney in the gallery?

00:27:52.720 Well, it would actually get even more bizarre than that Harrison, because if he did actually

00:27:56.960 start heckling from the gallery, what would end up happening is the parliamentary police would come

00:28:01.360 over to him because they are stationed throughout the gallery. They would ask him to be quiet,

00:28:05.440 Mr. Carney. And then if he did it again, they would, they could actually escort him out and

00:28:09.280 have him banned from the house of commons. I mean, that's a pretty extreme case,

00:28:14.560 but it definitely can happen. It would at least make it, you know, not that we really need more

00:28:19.680 entertainment in Canadian politics these days. I think we've got plenty of it. Um, and perhaps we

00:28:24.080 need a little less entertainment and more seriousness, but that would be something. It really, it really

00:28:29.840 would be quite interesting. Uh, just for history's sake, I feel obligated to also say this has happened

00:28:35.200 four times. Um, it happened with John Abbott, uh, after he became prime minister, following the death of

00:28:42.240 John A. McDonald and Mackenzie Bowel, uh, following, uh, following John Thompson's death in office. We don't

00:28:49.360 want to see any of that happen. Uh, but Abbott and Mackenzie Bowel were senators. Um, and Ryan, you,

00:28:55.760 you couldn't just be appointed to the Senate, right? That's still, it still wouldn't work.

00:29:00.240 Correct. And even if you were a sitting Senator and you inherited the position of prime minister,

00:29:04.560 you would have to resign from the Senate and that's to ensure that there is independence

00:29:09.520 between the different branches of government. If you're the prime minister, you are by default

00:29:14.480 part of the executive branch and you cannot have two branches essentially coexisting in the same space.

00:29:20.880 Would, would Mark Carney have any time to like hold any of those big meetings and invite a world leader

00:29:28.240 in, uh, to do some sort of, you know, presentation and really act, play the role of prime minister.

00:29:33.760 Do you guys see a, a, a situation happening in which Mark Carney gets just enough time to

00:29:38.800 really embrace the life of being a prime minister?

00:29:41.280 Honestly, no, the, uh, the election is supposed to be, or I should say the, um,

00:29:47.360 the leadership race election within the liberal party is supposed to be on March 9th and that

00:29:52.640 will choose the next prime minister, um, because again, the liberals are the party in power. So

00:29:56.800 the new leader of the liberals becomes the prime minister and, um, the, uh, the propagation is set

00:30:03.200 to end on March 24th, but they have a definite confidence vote for supply on March the 26th. So

00:30:10.160 that's only about three weeks between, well, it's not even three weeks between when the leader is

00:30:15.040 selected and when this confidence vote is. So I don't think that there's going to be enough time

00:30:21.200 to be whining and dining foreign dignitaries. I think they're going to have to try to get ready 0.66

00:30:25.360 for this confidence vote. They're going to have to get ready for this speech from the throne

00:30:29.280 because I think the liberals are going to use this, uh, as their, their party platform to run on

00:30:35.440 in the next election. So they're going to go in on March 24th. The governor general is going to

00:30:39.360 give the speech from the throne about all these wonderful things that the liberal party is going to do.

00:30:44.240 And then the other parties, uh, may or may not have the opportunity to vote on that in a confidence

00:30:49.360 vote. If they don't on March 24th, there's definitely going to be a confidence vote on

00:30:53.680 March 26th regarding the supply for the next session of government. And we think that's

00:30:58.720 when it's going to fall and that's when we'll go to election. Well, and here's the other thing. Um,

00:31:03.360 Justin Trudeau is a lame duck prime minister right now. Everybody knows it because he's only going

00:31:07.280 to be leader until March 9th, but I think world leaders would understand that Mark Carney is most

00:31:13.680 likely a lame duck prime minister after he gets elected. And he's not going to be able to speak

00:31:17.680 with any authority because a parliament's prorogued and B the polling shows that he's not going to be

00:31:22.880 prime minister past the next general election. So why would you even waste your time in coming to see

00:31:27.280 Mark Carney when he's most likely not going to be the leader of the country within a matter of weeks?

00:31:33.920 So, um, I think I, I wouldn't surprise, it wouldn't surprise me if he asked leaders to come,

00:31:40.160 but it would make more sense for those leaders to kind of hold back, say, Oh, I'm busy right now.

00:31:44.880 Talk to me, you know, at the end of the summer. Um, so they can actually see how the political

00:31:49.200 situation shakes out in Canada. I'm going to say, I think the only leader that it might make sense

00:31:54.240 for the newly elected leader of the liberal party to meet with would be Donald Trump, especially with

00:31:59.840 the threat of these tariffs. Right? Absolutely. And, and I assume that it would be, it would be, uh,

00:32:06.560 customary for the liberal leader to have maybe a virtual meeting with the king. I think that's usually

00:32:13.120 what they try to do as well. The prime minister wants to meet with the monarch. I I've been,

00:32:17.680 you know, for the past couple of weeks, I've been calling the, the, the, the winner of the next

00:32:21.760 liberal, uh, liberal leadership contest, the, the next Kim Campbell, but that's just not, not accurate

00:32:26.960 because, uh, she is not the, the shortest, uh, reigning prime minister. That would be Sir Charles

00:32:33.360 Tupper 68 days. And I don't get the impression that the next liberal leader is going to last 68 days.

00:32:38.800 So I I've had it wrong this whole time, but this has been an episode packed with Canadian 1.00

00:32:42.800 history, uh, some predictions about the future, um, and just general discussions about what we

00:32:47.680 may have in store for us. But, um, we're going to turn it over to you, the audience, reminding

00:32:52.480 you about the poll in this video, the poll question, which we ask you to put yourself in

00:32:57.440 the position of a liberal supporter. The question is this, who would be a better leader for the liberal

00:33:03.360 party to challenge Pierre Polyev? You can find that once again, in the pinned comment on this video,

00:33:09.200 that's all the time we have for this week. We'll see you all next week.

Juno News - January 16, 2025

Prime Minister Mark Carney？

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