Juno News - February 17, 2024


Pro-Palestinian mob targets Jewish hospital in Toronto


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Barbara Kay is a phenomenal columnist at the National Post and has been one of my favorite guests on this show over time. She joins us again to talk about the anti-Israel protests at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto and why they re anti-Semitic.

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00:00:00.000 Barbara Kay is a phenomenal columnist at the National Post in the Epoch Times and has been
00:00:14.340 one of my favorite guests on this show over time and she joins us again. Barbara, always good to 0.88
00:00:19.020 talk to you. Let's just get this right out of the way here. The pretense that this is anti-Zionism
00:00:24.280 and not anti-Semitism is long gone, is it not? I would think so. I would think that 0.93
00:00:30.020 October 7th kind of stripped that veil and shredded it. There is no difference when people 0.99
00:00:39.620 are screaming free Palestine and they're carrying that flag, which is not the flag, by the way, of a
00:00:44.520 state. It's the flag of an intention and the intention is to eradicate Israel. So yeah, we're 0.99
00:00:50.780 talking anti-Israel, but also anti-Semitism, really of a very hardcore kind. And it's not
00:00:57.860 even veiled. I mean, if someone wants to protest at the Israeli consulate in Toronto, I may disagree
00:01:03.220 with it, but I'd say have at it because you're at least protesting the thing that you claim to object
00:01:07.820 to if they want to protest at the Israeli embassy. When we saw Jewish-owned businesses being targeted
00:01:13.760 very early on, I mean, some of the footage looked like, to be frank, a new Kristallnacht. And then
00:01:18.960 you see the protesting at Mount Sinai Hospital. Now, I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of
00:01:23.260 Mount Sinai's leadership, but I've never heard of this hospital having any connection to the Israeli
00:01:28.960 government or Israeli politics or foreign policy. It just happens to be Jewish and have Sinai in the
00:01:35.220 name. Am I missing something here? No, you're not missing anything. I know very well the origins of the
00:01:40.300 Mount Sinai Hospital because if you go back far enough in Canadian history, you don't because you're
00:01:46.020 very young. But back in the day, there were quotas on Jews in medical school and it was very difficult
00:01:55.840 for Jewish doctors to get internships or residencies in the other hospitals. And the Jewish community
00:02:04.340 said, you know what, let's start our own hospital. Same as the Jewish General Hospital in Montreal. So
00:02:09.000 they did. But obviously these hospitals hire everybody. They're very multicultural places,
00:02:15.720 of course. And they're open to the community. So everybody, their patients come from the entire
00:02:23.860 community. And so it represents its legacy. And it does mean that you can get kosher meals there,
00:02:30.620 if that's your inclination. But aside from that, it's, and rooms for, you know, circumcision for,
00:02:38.180 you know, ceremonies and that sort of thing. That's, that's what's Jewish about it. And there's 0.77
00:02:41.700 a chapel, I think. But apart from that, it's a community hospital like all the others. But you
00:02:48.360 know, these clowns, they, they see a name that sounds Jewish. They just, I mean, they don't really 0.99
00:02:55.720 do their homework on this. They, they just see it as a target because it has a Jewish name or a Jewish,
00:03:01.860 you know, implication or like Heather Reisman store to own by a Jew, delicatessen owned by a Jew. I mean, 0.60
00:03:09.800 they don't care if the clientele or the staff or everybody else's nothing to do with being Jewish.
00:03:15.700 So yeah, that's. Yeah. And, and, you know, I go back to for years and years ago, we have seen the
00:03:22.220 BDS movement, the boycott divestment sanctions movement, which is in and of itself, I think,
00:03:27.140 rooted in antisemitism and it would historically protest anything that had even a peripheral
00:03:32.240 relationship to Israel. I mean, Aroma Coffee is a coffee shop that's Israeli owned. They do a
00:03:38.180 wonderful job. Whenever I'm in Toronto, I try to go to Aroma. It's not a political operation. It just
00:03:42.760 happens to be by virtue of geography, an Israeli company. So you've got, you know, activists that
00:03:48.280 boycott that. We've now taken this BDS movement, which I think a lot of people thought was just this
00:03:53.500 little corner of the university thing that didn't really affect anyone. And we've now seen the export 0.96
00:03:59.240 of this to hospitals. Like, like I've always been a cynic about these things, but I never imagined that
00:04:04.580 BDS would extend to hospitals. Well, just to make you a little more cynical, Andrew, I can tell you
00:04:11.560 that it's very common practice for even Hamas leaders. Just recently, for example, I think it was
00:04:19.440 Ismail Haniyez. He's the head political honcho for Hamas who lives in Qatar. His daughter or his 0.78
00:04:28.260 sister or somebody in his family was just in Hadassah Hospital in Israel for a life-saving
00:04:33.680 operation. Very common for the big, you know, the big cheeses in the most antisemitic movements.
00:04:43.460 When they want expert medical care, they send them to Israeli hospitals. And where they are, by the way, 0.99
00:04:48.340 treated with exactly the same professionalism and concern and care and compassion as anybody else.
00:04:55.400 Even terrorists, by the way, who end up in Israeli hospitals are very well treated.
00:04:59.740 Palestinians routinely, they can't get away if their child has a heart condition, for example,
00:05:06.560 that's too sophisticated for the hospitals in the West Bank. They bring them, they're treated,
00:05:12.040 they go home. In some cases, they have treated people who have been very grateful at the time
00:05:17.860 and then came back to try to blow up a pizza parlor, you know. So it's a sort of strange world
00:05:23.680 we inhabit when we get into the, you know, the lower reaches of cynicism promoting facts in this world.
00:05:35.800 Yeah, well, and that's always been, I mean, the most glaring hypocrisy from, you know, dictators,
00:05:41.600 Islamists and otherwise, is that they're all about death to the West. But where do they send their 1.00
00:05:45.740 kids to go to school? I mean, Kim Jong-un, I think he, you know, North Korea, if I recall,
00:05:49.420 he was educated in either in Europe or somewhere like that. You have Iranian dictators and mullahs, 0.99
00:05:55.860 they send their family members to, you know, Switzerland, the United States, France for medical
00:06:00.360 treatment. And you're right. I mean, and you mentioned that he lives in Qatar. For people that don't realize
00:06:04.820 this, even they don't want to live in this Gaza that they say is such a wonderful, wonderful place 0.99
00:06:11.160 were it not for the evil Zionist Jews that are wreaking havoc on it when they haven't even been 1.00
00:06:16.380 there for, you know, 15 years now. So where do you think this is going? Because I saw this display at 0.98
00:06:22.540 the hospital, wasn't all that surprised by it now. But I did note that conspicuous silence from people
00:06:28.480 that if, you know, those who are critical of vaccines were protesting a hospital would have wanted to
00:06:33.320 send in the police and now are silent. Well, I'm glad you showed that clip of what
00:06:39.160 Justin Trudeau said some years ago. And he was lending his moral authority to an idea and to what
00:06:50.380 he thinks is the moral, you know, let's have some moral clarity here. It is not acceptable. This is not
00:06:57.380 acceptable. This is not who we are, blah, blah, blah. But when we have an incident like this,
00:07:01.720 and we've had many similar incidents, that's his moment to get up and say, I'm distressed by this.
00:07:07.920 I'm upset by this. As a Canadian, this disturbs me greatly. This is not who we are. And all the
00:07:14.040 shibboleths that he says with all the other stuff. He's not in the frame here. He should be going down to
00:07:22.000 the Mount Sinai Hospital and holding a press conference outside it and say, this is one of our
00:07:26.820 great hospitals in this city. There is no way that anybody inside this hospital, staff,
00:07:35.720 patients, anybody should feel one minute, you know, I mean, the speech writes itself. All he has to do
00:07:42.640 is, you know, and by the way, not say, and Islamophobia is bad too, like not tack that on.
00:07:50.180 Even if he does the first thing, you know, he's going to tack it on. But if he could just
00:07:54.660 for once forbear to tack on that little, you know, and we're equally, you know, upset about
00:08:00.360 Islamophobia because there are no Muslim schools or mosques or at the moment that are being targeted
00:08:07.620 for hatred by anybody, let alone Jews. And that's where you get the message trickling down. And all he
00:08:17.600 has to say is, you know, if he, just what you said, if you have a problem, uh, you have, you have free
00:08:25.920 speech here and you have, uh, the right to your opinion. If you have a problem with what's going
00:08:31.840 on in the Middle East and you think it's Israel's fault, go to the Israeli embassy and protest there.
00:08:37.820 Do not like, I mean, why am I writing the speech for him? I, you know, he's not going to pay me,
00:08:42.760 but wouldn't somebody in the PMO think that up and say, Hey, come on, uh, let's, let's write a sort
00:08:48.860 of a nifty little, you know, perky speech for, and, and take, you know, fly into Toronto for the day
00:08:55.360 and make a day of it, like put on some other speeches elsewhere. He could stop this. I mean,
00:09:03.320 let's, let's put it this way. He might not be able to stop all of it, but he could certainly
00:09:07.760 muffle the, uh, uh, the, the cheering squad who might be just a little embarrassed after their
00:09:18.120 prime minister has told them, this is not who we are as Canadians, uh, to say, you know, I think
00:09:22.760 I'll skip this demonstration. So he could certainly bring the temperature down on this and he hasn't.
00:09:26.920 Yeah. And at the very least, I think the moral clarity would be incredibly important. Barbara Kay,
00:09:31.700 always enjoy your work in the national post, the epic times and wherever else you pop up. Thank you so
00:09:35.840 much for coming on today. Thanks, Andrew. Thanks for listening to the Andrew Lawton show
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