Juno News - RCMP sergeant links traditional values to extremism

00:00:00.000 don't know about you guys but it's like every summer i go through this growing pain or i don't

00:00:03.280 know what to call it again it's like i completely forgot that mosquitoes existed and then i go

00:00:07.200 outside and i'm just getting eaten alive and all i'm doing uh all day is just scratching myself

00:00:11.680 because i've been bitten a hundred times by mosquitoes and it's terrible and the list goes

00:00:16.000 on like i'm burnt to a crisp too which you can't see under my shirt but yeah it's the one thing

00:00:20.880 that makes you guys been dealing with mosquitoes as well yeah it's it's crazy it's like the first

00:00:25.680 few warm days in the year it's like yeah you know and not a lot of mosquitoes out this is fantastic

00:00:30.720 maybe this year will be different and then you know as the summer progresses more of them more

00:00:35.600 of them breed with one another and they start to populate and it's just the worst yeah no i'm

00:00:40.880 outside at the field with my buddy there and i'm getting attacked by like 10 at once and at one

00:00:44.000 point i'm like i just can't do this oh my gosh especially if you go like near like any body of

00:00:49.360 water like you know you can't be out there after like 6 p.m then you're gonna start getting eaten

00:00:54.480 alive i don't know if uh you deal with that around the vancouver area with uh there alex but uh it's

00:01:00.240 crazy out here no the mosquitoes aren't so bad especially like at the ocean you have to worry about

00:01:05.040 the barnacles it's crashing up barnacles yeah yeah the leeches in the water those will get you a

00:01:13.840 yeah or the broken glass or the needles yeah needles yeah that'll get you too we've talked about

00:01:20.640 what's going on at canadian beaches there's a lot of things you you might want to avoid stepping on

00:01:26.080 and it might be defecation from someone who buried it in the sand there's a lot of it in downtown

00:01:31.840 vancouver yeah they actually proposed city council proposed a bill to introduce bathrooms in time for

00:01:38.480 the fifa thing they're also shorting shutting down the courts during fifa for a month i just found that

00:01:45.680 out yesterday yeah so your city basically becomes infinitely worse for a few soccer games so uh

00:01:52.080 good luck with that alex yeah i saw some things on that fifa alex just how much it's going to cost i

00:01:57.280 thought i saw like 350 million or something just insane of course if you evaluate it i guess from a

00:02:03.920 gdp perspective it could be net positive depending on how much people spend while they're in town but i

00:02:08.400 find that highly unlikely well they're spelling spending millions of dollars for a corridor from the

00:02:13.440 stadium to the casino so uh i don't know maybe the casino is going to generate all that gdp

00:02:19.120 i just want i mean if it gets the poop off the ground i'm a happy camper all right my name is

00:02:25.600 isaac lamira i'm here with my true north colleagues alex zoltan and noah jarvis let's hop into this

00:02:34.400 yeah starting off with here we often get into u.s stories and have some disagreements but maybe we can

00:02:39.760 find more agreement here especially since this u.s story with canada is not involving the president of

00:02:45.360 the united states uh instead two u.s congressmen wrote a scathing letter to canada about uh our

00:02:53.600 forest management essentially and all the wildfires we see going on so yeah no uh two representatives

00:03:00.320 uh tom tiffany and brad finstad wrote a letter on july 7th to canadian ambassador kirsten hillman and

00:03:06.720 basically demanded ottawa to explain what the liberals are doing to mitigate the wildfire

00:03:11.520 crisis in canada and they blamed canada for many things including arson forest management

00:03:18.160 and for for our dedicated listeners as you know we true north true north has been at the forefront of

00:03:22.960 exposing federal mismanagement in wildfires specifically what happened in jasper national

00:03:28.080 park i mean that was an absolute gong show we saw almost a billion dollars in damage a third of the

00:03:33.360 town destroyed 360 square kilometers of burned area and 358 destroyed structures and then the the

00:03:41.040 controversy was all over the place we saw a uh parks canada senior staffer essentially accusing

00:03:48.080 them of of mismanaging the forest not doing prescribed burns the the list is very lengthy

00:03:53.840 and then we saw a parliamentary investigation further show that they were turning away firefighters

00:03:58.640 their hydrants weren't compatible with most fire trucks i mean the list goes on and then looking

00:04:03.840 more closely this year uh i looked at manitoba's data yesterday because initially it was showing

00:04:10.480 like 99 out of 103 fires were human caused but now number has fallen still to almost half so 114 of

00:04:16.720 the 252 fires so far this year in manitoba were human caused whereas last year in alberta where i live

00:04:24.080 almost every single wildfire was human caused but these lawmakers are are saying look it's enough

00:04:29.920 time for excuses here are a few quotes they had in the letter in our neck of the woods summer months

00:04:34.720 are the best time of the year to spend outdoors recreating enjoying time with the family and creating

00:04:38.640 new memories but this wildfire smoke makes it difficult to do all these things and then they said

00:04:43.840 canada has been a friendly neighbor of the united states and the states we represent so given the

00:04:48.160 significance of this issue we urge you to relay this message to your government in particular

00:04:53.520 natural resources canada and the canadian forest service yeah guys with all this i guess information

00:05:00.800 coming out about how canada has handled its wildfire management and the fires we're continuously seeing

00:05:05.920 that clearly are not attributable to climate change but instead human caused and frankly human negligence

00:05:12.800 do you foresee the federal government or any agencies taking action well they ought to uh and i mean

00:05:20.720 it's a shame that it takes prompting from the americans american congressmen american senators to for

00:05:27.440 canada to act on certain key priorities or for them to back away from certain terrible policy priorities you

00:05:33.280 saw this with the digital services tax where uh for years leading up to the implementation the passage of

00:05:39.920 the act the implementation of the act you had american congressmen and senators warning the canadian

00:05:45.200 government that they ought not impose this digital services tax lest the united states retaliate and

00:05:51.360 you know you had in the in recent weeks uh prime minister carney have to back down from the digital

00:05:57.120 service tax because trump threatened to end all negotiations uh with canada and just simply name and

00:06:04.720 impose a tariff rate on canadian goods you also saw this uh in a number of other areas where uh canadian uh

00:06:13.760 the canadian government was forced uh to act because of the prompting of the americans so i think that

00:06:19.840 it is really important that you know the canadian government not have to you know you not have to

00:06:25.440 be encouraged by other countries uh to act on key priorities you know it should have been prompting

00:06:31.280 enough that when jasper nearly burned all the way down you know uh as isaac mentioned there was

00:06:36.800 significant damage and destruction the livelihoods of uh people in jasper people's homes being burnt down

00:06:43.360 uh all because the canadian government failed uh to manage their forest properly uh you know you had

00:06:50.160 the people running parks canada getting really cocky in their forest management efforts and their

00:06:54.880 ability to combat wildfires but in the end it caused significant destruction and devastation and all that

00:07:02.000 smoke uh is going uh over into the united states not just into the united states but into other provinces

00:07:07.680 saskatchewan british columbia even here in ontario uh we get certain uh warnings about the health uh the

00:07:16.000 the air quality because of fires burning in alberta so it affects the entire country it affects especially

00:07:23.440 the border states and you know if they are dealing with these community effects from canadian mismanagement

00:07:30.560 of our forests they have a right to complain and they have a right even to uh you know impose certain

00:07:36.960 retaliatory measures i hope that the trump administration doesn't do that but at the

00:07:42.400 end of the day could you really blame them uh if we are you know harming their citizens indirectly

00:07:48.400 uh through our poor uh forest management efforts yeah and just to remind people how bad jasper was i

00:07:53.920 remember one of the most powerful press conferences right after jasper had essentially burned to the

00:07:59.520 ground i mean daniel smith was literally crying at the press conference like that's how bad it was and

00:08:03.440 this is a strong woman who you're not going to see that from very often yeah i i don't know alex

00:08:09.120 do you do you think that we obviously saw the steven guibo said oh we did everything we could but then

00:08:15.120 people on the ground were saying that wasn't the case at all do you do you think that i know this

00:08:19.280 isn't the president but u.s congressmen actually speaking out against canada is going to i i guess

00:08:24.320 move the needle more than what we've already seen happen in canada which is parliamentary hearings clear

00:08:28.640 clear evidence of mismanagement but that hasn't seemed to change anything yeah i mean i think

00:08:34.400 there's definitely clear evidence of mismanagement on behalf of the canadian government but

00:08:39.600 just some kind of uneducated observations on this subject is anybody else ever

00:08:44.800 like super skeptical about investigations into forest fires you know they'll say like you know for

00:08:50.480 instance a hundred percent of the forest fires in alberta were human caused like i've always

00:08:54.800 wondered how do they determine that like if you put out a forest fire and then you find like one

00:08:59.360 cigarette butt in there do you just assume that it was human caused i mean i'm curious how that works

00:09:05.840 well i do remember last year for example there was one terrible one i think that was like they were

00:09:11.040 doing like a some sort of training with burns and then all of a sudden the whole force is on fire so

00:09:17.600 that's obviously human cause human idiocy i guess but yeah it's it's i think the the main distinction

00:09:25.200 is like uh an act of god one for example would be like lightning hits hits the forest and then a fire

00:09:30.640 starts so obviously that's not human cause whereas if if someone yeah throws a cigarette into the forest

00:09:35.680 and it and it comes ablaze i guess that would be human cause and you could even argue arson through

00:09:40.880 negligence sure sure there's also the issue of firefighter arson i'm not gonna you know

00:09:47.280 put down firefighters or anything it's obviously a very small minority but over 100 firefighters get

00:09:52.160 charged with arson every year in the united states really yeah how is that even possible they put out

00:09:58.480 fires how do they start them well it's like people you know like they obviously love what they do right

00:10:03.120 i imagine that a lot of firefighters and again like this is a tiny sub-minority of firefighters but

00:10:08.880 they're probably attracted to the profession because they love fire right like they're firefighters sitting

00:10:13.840 around the hub they're like man there's really no fires today we should start one so we got something

00:10:17.680 to do yeah i'm tired of playing poker i keep losing they're just like in the in the shop well what better

00:10:23.520 job to have if you're a pyromaniac right you just be around it all the time which sounds kind of fun but then

00:10:30.320 when you look at like the the big cases you know lytton would be a good example we had an entire town

00:10:35.840 burned down um they're rebuilding it now i think if they fully rebuild it they should probably change

00:10:41.440 the name oh yeah lytton but uh like that one because it was such an enormous amount of damage

00:10:50.320 like we i still don't think there's clear answers on how it was started right and there's been a lot of

00:10:54.800 investigation into it some people think that it was started because it was too hot and there was a

00:10:58.640 fire on the railroad tracks and i think when you really get down into the nitty-gritty of these

00:11:02.800 things like it's actually harder to figure out what started a fire than maybe we think it is am i is my

00:11:09.680 skepticism well grounded or am i just being cynical i don't know i'm not sure like i've looked at their

00:11:16.560 reports earlier and i am i'm pretty sure there are like detailed investigations for each cause so i think

00:11:22.000 it's pretty legit but for for sure there are anomalies as you mentioned yeah i find with that

00:11:27.520 that sort of stuff uh you know there's a lot uh that i don't know and you know sort of like the

00:11:33.280 uh layman doesn't know about investigative tools and sort of techniques uh and so i'm sure if you talk

00:11:39.040 to you know an experienced investigator uh they can tell you the sort of tips and tricks that they use

00:11:44.480 in order to determine you know how a fire was started but i'm pretty sure none of this is uh foolproof either

00:11:49.520 so just move unless you wanted to say anything that's okay i was just thinking we could move

00:11:57.360 over to a different uh federal agency where uh noah yeah an rcmp sergeant said something pretty uh

00:12:04.960 shocking perhaps yeah so i'm pretty sure there are a lot of canadians here uh most of the people

00:12:10.640 watching this broadcast you know they adhere to traditional values or at least they have some

00:12:15.280 respect for the values that have helped to build this canada uh helped to build this civilization

00:12:20.640 uh but you know apparently uh if you believe in traditional values and these fundamental values

00:12:26.800 uh you could be an extremist that is right according to rcmp staff sergeant camille habel

00:12:33.760 in her interviews that she did with the cbc canadians should be on guard for family members and friends

00:12:39.440 who are being radicalized giving the example of someone who changes their views and holds traditional

00:12:45.440 values uh so here is the quote radicalization in general quite often will show in people isolating

00:12:51.760 themselves and changing their behavior like changing what they're saying on a subject like

00:12:56.000 becoming more extremist if someone you know believed in equal gender rights but all of a sudden

00:13:01.200 they're leaning toward like traditional values it might be a sign they're becoming more extremist

00:13:07.040 so you know i don't really think that i think it's an oxymoron uh to call traditional values uh extremists

00:13:14.080 because traditional values are just the ones that have uh been inherited through generations uh through

00:13:19.680 through the generations and uh if these are really extremist i mean that me that would be an indictment

00:13:25.440 on the entire society would mean that the society uh that you are living in is uh extremist then you

00:13:31.280 know if that is a good society then perhaps uh like barry goldwater said uh extremism is

00:13:36.880 no vice in the pursuit of virtue uh but you know i i don't know what do you guys think of this story

00:13:42.960 do you believe that uh traditional values makes you an extremist makes you a little nazi well if i do

00:13:49.280 know uh then i've become i've been becoming more and more extremist by the day because of course i've

00:13:53.760 always been traditional but i've recently taken uh i don't know how i want to word this i've recently

00:13:59.120 become more religious let's say so therefore more extremist according to this rcmp sergeant but another thing

00:14:05.200 just to that i wanted to highlight here is more or less western morals are derived from the bible

00:14:11.920 therefore calling traditionalist values extremist is is insane i mean i i can't understand this at all

00:14:21.680 how are how are the morals we hold true extremist if that's extremist then i don't know what normal is

00:14:28.240 uh i don't i just don't i it like you said no it's definitely an oxymoron it makes no sense at all

00:14:35.200 yeah i guess you know the like if i'm you know to play devil's advocate for this rcmp staff sergeant

00:14:41.280 because i don't really think she's a moron uh to get that position although you know perhaps she did 1.00

00:14:45.600 feel upward in her career i don't know anything about her so i'm not going to denigrate her

00:14:49.040 uh but you know just to play devil's advocate perhaps you could say oh well you know they're like

00:14:53.440 fundamentalists you know you could say religious fundamentalists out there who you know take you

00:14:58.400 know certain uh things a bit too seriously but hey you know christianity is not like an extreme

00:15:03.920 you know the things that are uh talked about the principles that uh christians believe in they're not

00:15:09.120 extreme in any sort of way you know perhaps you could make an argument for a couple other religions

00:15:13.920 but uh you know fundamentalism isn't crazy in christianity but uh you know even fundamentalism is

00:15:20.240 not something that's super popular in canada uh you know like not at all canada is becoming less

00:15:25.440 religious by the day uh and you know to claim that you know christian fundamentalism or islamist or

00:15:33.200 christian fundamentalism a problem in canada would be you know a different problem and i don't think

00:15:37.440 you talk about islamist fundamentalism because the rcmp is generally uh you know scared and you know

00:15:43.200 discussing those issues you know they believe it's politically incorrect uh to talk about uh fundamentalist

00:15:48.480 islam uh in canada and you know the several incidents uh of near terrorist attacks uh that

00:15:53.840 we've had in uh the recent months and recent years so uh yeah i i really think it is shocking

00:15:59.680 uh is shocking uh that uh this staff sergeant said this now uh to be fair the rcmp has tried to walk

00:16:07.840 back uh what the staff sergeant said i reached out uh for a request for comment and the rmp said quote

00:16:14.560 the rcmp is in no way implying that embracing traditional values makes an individual radical or

00:16:20.320 extreme uh but you know it i think it's a little bit contradictory to what their staff sergeant said

00:16:26.560 so maybe uh they all need to get a all in line you know i'll be rowing in the same direction when it

00:16:32.320 comes to their communications going forward yeah i had a hypothetical come to mind here and let's say a

00:16:37.280 friend is telling me about an issue he's having with his neighbor and i just say oh love thy neighbor

00:16:42.000 and he's like what are you an extremist but yeah that's the way you want to be treated extremist

00:16:49.920 alex i was gonna ask since you're our crime specialist at true north um just based on this

00:16:55.520 rcmp's comments and how uh controversial they were let's say do you do you foresee that

00:17:02.960 she would be subject to any punishment or any any backlash anything of the sort no only if she had said

00:17:09.680 that traditional values related to the religion that shall not be named were an indication of

00:17:16.240 extremism then she would probably receive a proverbial slap on the wrist from the woke organization that

00:17:23.920 she works for but yeah it's like that is always the case with these well government institutions

00:17:30.880 right as long as you're always punching downstream from privilege you're you're pretty much fine right so

00:17:37.040 you can say whatever you want about christians or about white people or about men right but you

00:17:43.920 know that that's basically you have carte blanche as far as that is concerned um and this would be a

00:17:48.960 good example traditional versus what non-conventional so as long as you're attacking the group that in their

00:17:57.200 eyes has privilege or sorry doesn't have privilege therefore in in a way that too is a contradiction because

00:18:04.560 that in itself removes the privilege that you think the group has from it well yeah and i don't really

00:18:11.200 know what traditionalism has to do with extremism right like we see extremists all the time who are

00:18:19.040 i would say very progressive right so yeah you know and you know if you play this little like uh mental game

00:18:27.040 where you know if traditionalism is sort of extreme i guess you know sort of uh non-conventionalism as you said

00:18:33.360 alex is sort of like the the norm but then you know if non-conventionalism is the norm that's sort

00:18:39.360 of like the traditional thing that people are doing so then you know you're starting into this loop of

00:18:44.320 where like it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever so uh yeah i i think you know uh miss habel needs to 1.00

00:18:51.360 open a book uh you know or you know actually like get her head out of this app well you know it's the other 1.00

00:18:57.840 issue that i have with this too is that extremism doesn't exist in like these binary silos right

00:19:03.920 like it's not as if you're traditional versus progressive that you're more likely to be extreme

00:19:08.800 there are extremists in all walks of life right and according to all political ideologies

00:19:14.800 i remember barbara perry she was brought in for witness testimony she's one of those cbc experts

00:19:20.080 that they bring in to talk about radical extremism and she took exactly the same approach she was like

00:19:25.040 well you know there's certain indicators of extremism such as people who are christian

00:19:29.920 people who are white men right because she only has one conception of extremism in her mind right

00:19:35.600 which is like you know i think that her profession basically learns that you start from the presumption

00:19:40.720 that everyone is a nazi and you work backwards from there yeah christian white men are certainly 0.54

00:19:45.920 not the first thing that come to my mind when i think of extremism yeah but for some people it does

00:19:51.040 right that's just the conceptualization they have of extremists in their head it's almost you know

00:19:56.000 like the reverse of islamophobia i guess you call it like christophobia i think it's the term that

00:20:00.640 some people use but it does exist right people are really afraid of what they don't understand okay

00:20:06.720 speaking of not understanding we'll move on to our next story here where this was a pretty interesting

00:20:12.800 rant from uh conservative mp michael cooper who essentially attacked mark carney for

00:20:18.160 what he called cooking the books and presenting the illusion of a balanced budget because he of

00:20:24.720 course attacked carney for pledging to separate the budget into an operating and capital budget so

00:20:29.920 he just broke that down real quick meaning the operating budget would cover day-to-day government

00:20:34.560 spending and the capital budget would cover what he called so-called investment because he essentially

00:20:39.680 said that uh the capital spending like infrastructure would not be all that's in the capital budget it could

00:20:46.800 be anything including like private sector capital or anything that could boost productivity which he

00:20:52.320 said would quote no doubt be to the benefit of liberal insiders so he he's saying that yeah carney

00:20:59.040 balancing the operating budget was useless because he could just shift lines from the operating to the

00:21:03.120 capital budget here's a quote from cooper he said quote carney has no real plan to reduce spending

00:21:09.600 spending no real plan to balance the budget carney's real plan is to rack up more debt than justin

00:21:15.440 trudeau while making it more difficult to track government spending let's call this for what it is

00:21:20.240 it's called budget trickery it's called cooking the books and yeah anyone who thought carney was going

00:21:25.680 to get spending in wraps is probably in for a surprise because from what we've seen this early and this

00:21:32.240 thus far despite him not presenting a budget for inexplicable reasons uh the spending is skyrocketing

00:21:38.960 for example the cd how institute said that the the deficit will likely climb to 92 billion dollars by

00:21:45.040 2025-26 and that the cumulative deficit over the projected tenure will be around 350 billion dollars

00:21:52.400 which will increase canada's net debt to gdp ratio to 44 percent so yeah uh and just to remind

00:21:58.480 listeners of course during trudeau's tenure he doubled the debt so uh it started around like 600

00:22:04.000 billion and it reached 1.2 trillion dollars by the time he was out of office so if it's going to get

00:22:09.360 worse under carney who has announced his 486 billion dollar spending plan uh canadians are going to be

00:22:16.880 bearing the brunt of the damage yeah did did you guys uh listen to what cooper had to say or or what

00:22:21.920 do we think about this budget splitting idea yeah uh i you know i agreed with everything you said uh isaac

00:22:28.320 except for the fact that it's inexplicable i think it is explicable why carney is uh delaying the

00:22:33.920 budget and splitting uh the budget uh and it's basically in order to you know create uh certain

00:22:39.680 illusions that is uh you know beneficial to the liberal party and their process political prospects

00:22:46.320 i think carney is a lot smarter uh than justin trudeau uh he at least has a you know some of a

00:22:53.680 good intellect you know be able to graduate harvard and you know run uh the bank of canada the bank of

00:22:59.120 england you need to know something about something all right at the very least uh but i think he's

00:23:03.760 using that intellect in order to sort of game the system you know the delaying of the tabling of

00:23:09.360 the budget is a maneuver to game the system in order to delay sort of bad news and to be able to

00:23:16.880 uh rework uh the mechanisms of government and to be able to perfect their communications and messaging

00:23:22.800 uh around you know the the looming sort of uh budget tabling that will show you know sort of a

00:23:28.480 precarious fiscal position i think that uh that is going to work in their benefit uh i think carney

00:23:34.880 is you know you know doing a very good job at you know sort of presenting himself as a calm cool

00:23:40.560 collected technocrat uh while you know you'd have uh spending in the federal government running out of

00:23:46.240 control while you have him capitulating to donald trump on uh priorities that his government thought

00:23:52.000 were important which was preserving the digital services tax i'm glad that it's gone but if you really

00:23:56.720 thought it was good for the country you know you should stand your ground on it uh which he did

00:24:00.480 not uh so you know you have this sort of facade that they are projecting to the public and it's

00:24:05.520 working so far uh and carney uh is really benefited from a political environment where uh donald trump

00:24:11.920 is sort of uh viewed as the key antagonistic figure uh toward canada so i i think that you know carney is

00:24:20.000 going to you know split the capital and operating budget and he's going to say you know spend less invest

00:24:25.680 more uh which is a you know a contradiction uh in terms but uh you know it's going to sound really

00:24:31.440 smart and really technocratic to the average per person who you know doesn't dig deeper than the

00:24:36.320 headlines and then uh the little two minute blurb that they give on ctv news at six o'clock uh you know

00:24:42.320 like they're not going to dig much further than that uh and the mainstream media isn't really going to

00:24:47.920 hold him to account for that but you do have people like the cd how is it too uh bashing him for it

00:24:53.280 because at least they uh know a little better you're gonna have uh people in the frazier institute

00:24:57.200 publishing their reports uh to the liking uh you know be a bmo economist uh recently came out and

00:25:03.040 backed the carney government on similar grounds because at least these people they know the sort

00:25:07.840 of trickery that uh carney is running but he's uh you know uh you know little little weasel able to

00:25:14.400 slip through the cracks and uh you know uh really uh portray himself in a uh a manner of a grandeur and

00:25:22.400 sort of uh you know elite sort of uh you know intellect that the canadian public uh kind of

00:25:28.080 want to contradict with uh donald trump and so far it's working you know we'll see how the

00:25:34.080 conservatives sort of respond in the house of commons uh going forward and if they are able to

00:25:39.120 prosecute uh the message against the government but so far it's working yeah just to to comment

00:25:46.080 quickly on the donald trump thing i saw i saw some recent polling and it was showing that the vast

00:25:49.680 majority of canadians saw donald trump as the greatest that or the united states maybe it was

00:25:55.040 as the greatest threat to canada and other things on the list were china russia iran like this is what

00:26:00.480 we're talking about are our greatest ally you see them as the greatest threat i mean i in my opinion

00:26:05.360 you're just beyond delusion if that's how you how you see the world but as you said no if you're

00:26:10.880 consuming the mainstream media and and all you're hearing about how bad trump is that that of course is

00:26:15.840 going to affect how you view the world yeah alex uh what did you think of what cooper had to say here

00:26:22.240 um yeah so in terms of what cooper had to say i mean mark carney's claim to fame in the private

00:26:28.000 sector was cooking the books and sending what should have been corporate taxable income to

00:26:32.400 offshore tax havens so like this doesn't really come as a surprise to me what does come as a surprise to

00:26:38.000 me though and this is more anecdotal and a little bit unrelated to the story is i've been receiving calls

00:26:42.720 from acquaintances and friends who work for government agencies i won't name the agencies

00:26:48.320 but they have received memos from the top down that there are going to be massive employment cuts

00:26:54.560 and i think that's particularly interesting in the context of carney because a lot of government

00:27:00.080 employees who would normally have voted for dndp especially unionized government employees shifted

00:27:05.920 their allegiances to carney on the presumption that he would not be cutting the federal workforce

00:27:10.960 and a lot of them have told me off the record that they feel very slighted and they feel um they

00:27:17.440 feel basically abused by carney because they were promised a bill of goods that just didn't exist and

00:27:22.800 so i think that that given the size of canada's federal workforce does not bode well for the liberals

00:27:28.080 in a future potential election i think a lot of those people are going to ship back to the ndp

00:27:33.440 and yeah yeah just to comment on that quick uh i i didn't add that in the story there but uh yeah i

00:27:38.880 remember finance minister francois philippe champagne he said recently i think the cuts were in between

00:27:43.680 over the next few years 10 to 20 percent uh that was in federal bureaucracy and hey don't get me

00:27:48.560 wrong i i'm all for cuts in in the federal bureaucracy i mean our federal bureaucracy is is more bloated

00:27:54.080 than probably probably any country in the world just just citing quickly here a report from the canadian

00:27:59.040 center for policy alternatives they commented on these reductions these proposals from champagne they

00:28:03.680 said that it would be quote dramatically worse than stephen harper's 10 cuts on some departments

00:28:08.880 and rival paul martin's record 1995 austerity drive that saw cuts of 18.9 percent and they said

00:28:17.600 quote this will inevitably that will inevitably diminish the quality of public services but

00:28:22.480 i just want to give a caveat there because we've done extensive reporting at true north that the more

00:28:27.600 they spend on these federal services the the service doesn't really improve at all so they i don't really

00:28:32.240 agree with that quote because they're spending record uh amounts of money on these federal departments

00:28:38.160 but the services are not improving alongside with it so i i'm all for cuts and i'm sure the services will

00:28:43.760 actually stay the same yeah i i think it's really interesting and you know there's a sort of dark

00:28:48.480 irony and that you know all these public servants they rushed over to the liberals uh you know so that

00:28:53.520 they could secure their jobs and how you know the people that they interested uh you know their jobs

00:28:58.880 security with are just gonna you know slash their jobs away you know slash the public service i i

00:29:04.880 think it's kind of funny uh in a sort of dark way but also you know that is gonna have political

00:29:10.080 consequences you know a lot of those people who are previously voting for the ndp uh they might go

00:29:14.880 back to the ndp especially if the ndp are able to elect a competent leader um that is really important

00:29:22.080 uh because potentially even the conservatives could uh you know gobble up those voters if the ndp are just

00:29:27.520 like you know still uh in a schizophrenic mind state you know uh so i i think that you know

00:29:34.000 if the ndp are competent a lot of those former ndp voters are you know we're going to go back and

00:29:39.280 you know if the ndp are even more competent than just you know sort of like uh than average i think

00:29:45.200 you could attract new voters away from the liberals but and if they are able to prosecute that message

00:29:50.080 if they're able to say the liberals they promised you one thing uh during the election and then

00:29:54.640 uh after the election they cut your jobs uh you know i i think it's worthwhile for everyone to go

00:30:00.320 on r on reddit and r slash canada public servants uh they are in frenzy there they are freaking out it

00:30:07.600 is like it is like uh that meme of you know the the house on fire and you know everyone's scrambling

00:30:14.080 around that spongebob meme uh you know it's honestly uh just like a worth a read is very interesting stuff

00:30:21.680 but uh you know a lot of these people they admit that they entrusted their vote with mark carney

00:30:26.080 and they feel betrayed so i think there's a political opportunities there uh if for people

00:30:31.360 who are looking to expand their voter correlation in the next federal election

00:30:38.000 so moving on to our next story here perhaps sailing on uh to our bc representative alex if you

00:30:44.480 want to talk about this yeah what's going on with bc ferries there yeah so bc ferries has been

00:30:49.840 outsourcing the construction of our new ferries to communist china

00:30:58.640 to the surprise of absolutely no one right yeah it's particularly strange because we have

00:31:04.240 outsourced like we can't produce our own ferries and that's whatever a bridge that we've crossed and

00:31:08.720 something that we understand now but the bc ferries has first production of sea vessels to poland

00:31:16.480 companies in the netherlands before so it's not exactly clear why we're now receiving them from

00:31:21.600 china i understand that it might be due to cost saving um which the ndp should just communicate

00:31:26.720 properly i think that that actually would be a reasonable explanation for a lot of canadians i know

00:31:31.280 we don't love communist china but let's face it you walk into a dollar store 99 of the things in there

00:31:35.840 were produced in china as well i mean we're mass consumers of many chinese goods so you know i i think

00:31:41.840 that really like i i think that it would be ideal if we could make our own ferries second best option

00:31:46.480 would be to choose a democratic ally you know someone that we can trust and somebody that we

00:31:51.120 want to give our business to and the third best would be the cheapest option are the bc ndp kind of

00:31:58.160 out of line with i guess mark carney here because he's trying to at least say that he wants to

00:32:03.840 prioritize trade with europe and you of course mentioned a few european countries there that make

00:32:07.920 fairies so uh i'm surprised perhaps that they didn't decide to fall in line with him and say

00:32:13.360 yeah let's let's trade more with europe we can get them to build our fairies yeah it's really strange

00:32:19.120 it does seem at odds with the federal government's direction of increasing trade with europe but i think

00:32:24.320 that that's really more we're just increasing trade with europe over the united states right it's

00:32:28.320 more political gamesmanship than it is actual meaningful um changes to our geopolitical trade strategies

00:32:36.720 well if i could just chime in there it's at odds also with what the the eb government has said in

00:32:44.480 the past you know uh when this whole trade war was kicking off he was uh one of the uh top premiers

00:32:50.720 in saying buy local and you know not just buy canada but buy bc and there are canadian uh shipbuilding

00:32:57.600 companies uh in that you could have uh gotten given this awarded this contract to so the fact that they

00:33:03.920 decided oh you know well uh you know we're in a trade war with the united states and you know

00:33:08.560 a lot of our shipbuilders uh you know maybe they're not equipped to do this uh fulfill this contract which

00:33:14.480 i disagree with but you know if that's the conclusion you came to well let's just give the contract to one

00:33:20.240 of our geo strategic enemies you know why not you know that just seems like a great opportunity look at the

00:33:25.760 opinion polls you know canadians are less favorable to the united states than china so

00:33:30.640 let's you know forego all sort of uh reason and uh sort of uh understanding that china is actually

00:33:37.760 our chief geostrategic enemy and uh you know award this uh contract to china you know i think it is

00:33:44.160 really interesting that in a time where uh canada is starting to ban the chinese uh state-owned

00:33:50.880 companies from operating in canada we've seen uh the huawei ban uh while trudeau was prime minister uh you

00:33:57.600 see uh this uh security company hick vision uh you know in recent uh days they've been complaining

00:34:04.240 about uh their ban from opera doing business in canada because you know you don't want your security

00:34:10.160 camera uh being infiltrated by the chinese communist party that's uh not a good idea right and uh now

00:34:16.720 you know in in this sort of climate in this sort of environment uh you know we're giving away this uh

00:34:22.000 contract to the chinese it seems uh really uh ludicrous you have the conservatives sort of

00:34:26.640 fighting back against this uh urging uh the federal government to withdraw the loan the one billion

00:34:32.720 dollar loan uh that they are uh awarding for this contract but um you know obviously the conservatives

00:34:39.040 do they do not have the power uh in this situation they're going to need an at least committee uh to

00:34:44.720 work with uh the block the ndp uh in order to try to at least uh you know you know get some action

00:34:52.320 uh against this but uh at the end of the day you know if they um if they are able to get the liberals

00:34:59.120 on board with this that's the only way that they're going to be able to withdraw this loan so um

00:35:05.040 yeah i think it's really concerning yeah i mean i'm thinking of the only one old enough here to remember

00:35:10.240 the fast cat ferry scandal in canada or in bc so fun fact um bc fairies is actually the largest 0.96

00:35:17.120 ferry organization in the world so they they actually transfer 61 000 people per day basically

00:35:23.280 from vancouver vancouver island so it just gives you an idea of the scale and so back in the 1990s

00:35:29.120 uh we had this idea that because it was such a large operation we could build our own fairies in-house 0.98

00:35:34.560 but they were terrible like they were ridiculously over budget they were barely see where the

00:35:39.840 they cost a lot of money to fuel because of manufacturing flaws and so that might provide

00:35:45.520 some explanation to people who maybe aren't as familiar with the history of bc fairies as to why

00:35:50.480 we are so eager to outsource production they were sold for a fraction of what it cost to build and

00:35:55.760 they are now languishing in port in egypt of all places and you can go on facebook marketplace they're

00:36:00.400 for sale but they haven't like been at sea for a very long time and they're eventually just

00:36:06.240 rotting in some port in alexandria egypt yeah noah sort of alluded to this but i think i saw the

00:36:12.480 conservatives call for committee to be recalled to to debate this essentially do you do you guys think

00:36:17.200 that would actually accomplish anything uh it could and could could the committee essentially force

00:36:22.720 bc fairies to do to do something else i don't even know well i believe that the committee would be able

00:36:28.560 to uh call on the uh or at least issue a report uh recommending that the government uh withdraw this

00:36:36.160 loan but that and they could also summon uh people from i guess the canada infrastructure bank

00:36:41.440 uh who uh awarded this loan but at the end of the day uh it is incumbent on the carne government to act

00:36:48.240 on this so if they're not able to bring the liberals on board uh they're not going to be able to make

00:36:54.080 meaningful progress on this you know at the end of the day sort of parliament can uh express its will

00:36:59.760 but it is uh the government it is the privy council that has the power in the situation so uh you know

00:37:07.280 it's going to take public opinion it's going to take political opposition and it's going to you know

00:37:13.120 take some humility from the people who made this decision in the first place for this to get reversed

00:37:17.600 well we'll see what the committee comes up with and if bc fairies are in for a fight or not and 0.96

00:37:23.920 speaking of fights uh we recently saw a fight if you want to call it that pretty one-sided uh at a

00:37:30.880 golf course uh yeah who who's gonna who's gonna talk about that one uh bring us through what happened

00:37:36.720 there i don't mind yeah so uh it's nick tarnasky who was a former nhl hockey player and probably like

00:37:46.800 fourth line enforcer um had a confrontation with the guy at a golf course uh it's gone super viral

00:37:54.640 everybody loves the video um i think if you've ever gone golfing we've all been in that situation

00:37:59.760 where somebody is just taking too long and you know it delays everybody's game and kind of ruins their

00:38:04.400 day and i think if you've had like a few beers as well while you were on the course like you know

00:38:09.040 that might add to the aggressiveness and the frustration which appears to be the case in this video

00:38:14.080 so this guy appears to challenge tarnasky to a fight he threatens to throw him into the water

00:38:18.880 yeah alex alex let's just actually watch the video first and then oh sure yeah let's just watch it

00:38:23.760 yeah you guys need to get off the golf course yeah no now pack up go now

00:38:31.440 you're not scaring anybody you're just making yourself hey man come on man hey hey off to a good start

00:38:46.000 buddy i told you man leave me alone man i got it all on record it's around the golf i got it all on

00:38:54.400 record hey hey go guys leave me alone hey leave me alone man i wouldn't you go back you

00:39:02.400 neuron hey hey come on man come on man i'm not trying to get in there like just like

00:39:08.560 enough are you still cheering on you enough get out hey hey hey enough

00:39:17.600 things gonna go get him out of here no it's not gonna go well it's not okay he threw him in the

00:39:25.200 water hazard as promised and then he started punching him in the head and every time he punched

00:39:29.920 him he would yell out bang bang bang bang my friend pointed out at one point there was like a slight

00:39:35.840 delay between the punch and the bang so he was wondering if that was like a form of misdirection

00:39:40.320 that maybe he was playing hockey you know but it was it's a great video everybody it was absolutely

00:39:47.520 hilarious yeah imagine you know someone you're you're in a fight with just doing narration over

00:39:52.800 his own uh fight you know just like bang bang bang yeah i don't know if you guys uh watch any basketball

00:39:58.880 but mike breen is an amazing commentator you know he has whenever someone hits a big shot they go back

00:40:03.840 he goes bang you know that's all i could think of yeah bang bang bang oh my goodness that's gotta

00:40:11.440 be the most you know if this was not recorded and posted online for the whole world to see this

00:40:16.320 would be a very humiliating day you know this guy you know he he was like you know acting like a

00:40:21.280 gorilla acting all tough whatever beating his chest and then he gets you know hit a couple times

00:40:26.480 gets knocked down comes back up he gets knocked down again comes back up gets thrown away like a

00:40:32.240 rag doll i mean gosh that's got to be humiliating and then it gets posted online like i said you 0.85

00:40:37.520 might as well just like you know live as a hermit you know go live in a cave in mongolia you know 0.92

00:40:41.760 don't don't ever show your face in public ever again yeah no you really just have to you're out in

00:40:47.200 public you don't know what other people are capable of you don't know who you're arguing with you don't

00:40:51.280 know who you're trying to fight i mean this is ridiculous i remember i saw another clip recently it

00:40:55.440 was at either a baseball or a football game and this this guy's trying to fight this other guy and the

00:41:00.000 the one guy who's getting threat i guess is just laughing at him and then they show who this man

00:41:05.280 actually is he's literally a professional boxer and it's like dude you're trying to fight a

00:41:08.640 professional boxer at a baseball game like this guy could murder you with his hands like you have

00:41:13.200 no idea what you're signing up for so that brings it back i guess to my traditional extremism just being

00:41:19.360 nice to people so apparently there's an update on this story okay okay yeah i did see that he sat down

00:41:28.880 with spit and chiclets for an interview but i don't think that's been released yet i i don't

00:41:32.560 know if that's the update what did you have there alex well it says man on receiving end shares

00:41:37.280 aftermath of viral golf course fight with an nhl enforcer it appears that the man on the receiving

00:41:42.480 end of an alberta golf course beat down featuring a former nhl enforcer got away with only some minor

00:41:49.280 damage to both his face and his ego yeah that's a real update wow i couldn't have told you that from

00:41:56.160 watching the video there alex according to a picture of the man allegedly involved in the

00:42:00.320 viral brouhaha which saw him get pummeled and ragdolled by nhl tough guy nick tarnasky he received

00:42:07.360 some minor bruising and that appears to be the worst of the damage oh and he actually posted a picture

00:42:12.320 of himself with like a little bit of a black eye but he seems to be fine well that's good i guess yeah

00:42:18.240 and just uh again nick tarnasky was an nhl enforcer and he's actually from rocky mountain house i think in

00:42:22.800 alberta so alberta boy there i don't know what golf course that was i guess i should have looked

00:42:26.960 a bit closer it might have been an albertan golf course i guess it was that's what they're saying

00:42:32.000 in the in the article here so yeah anyway anyways my name is isaac lamorow i'd like to thank my

00:42:38.960 colleagues alex old and no jarvis and remember everything you heard today was off the record

00:42:47.440 yeah next time i'm on a golf course and someone's holding me up and i want to kill them

00:42:50.480 or uh and uh com contemplating whether i want to fight them i'll just uh keep this video in mind

00:42:58.080 like yeah maybe i'll just maybe i'll just chill out maybe yeah especially if they're like you know

00:43:02.160 who have 50 pounds more muscle than you you know but if you're in the reverse situation just grab

00:43:07.120 them by the shirt you know and go bang bang bang i'll have to be looking out for water hazards like

00:43:12.480 where could i throw this guy oh my goodness that was picking up a grown man and throwing him several

00:43:18.800 feet i mean a few could accomplish that was he wearing a hawaiian t-shirt the victim

00:43:25.440 yeah it was like some like sort of like floral you know like black yeah is victim still an 0.99

00:43:30.320 appropriate word alex considering he was the agitator is that is that the word we use victim 0.96

00:43:34.400 yeah i don't know i don't know if you start the fight are you the victim the loser that's a good

00:43:39.680 good point don't start when you can't finish loser loser loser yeah the loser

00:43:46.320 you

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Juno News - July 12, 2025

RCMP sergeant links traditional values to extremism

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