Juno News - April 23, 2026


Retired U.S. colonel SLAMS "globalist" Carney, calls Trump a LIAR


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00:00:00.000 The RCMP says its secret deal with Chinese police to share intelligence is nothing for
00:00:10.600 Canadians to be worried about. The Kearney government signed a non-disclosure agreement
00:00:15.640 with Chinese law enforcement. The RCMP describes it as a partnership similar to the one with U.S.
00:00:23.140 law enforcement agencies. The deal means Canadians will be left in the dark about the details of
00:00:29.460 that deal unless the Chinese say otherwise.
00:00:33.040 From time to time, memorandums of understanding
00:00:35.520 with many different law enforcement agencies
00:00:37.860 are reviewed or modified, updated to modernized language.
00:00:44.100 I cannot speak to the specifics of what is in the MOU
00:00:47.880 based on obviously an agreement with our partner
00:00:51.620 in that particular case, Chinese law enforcement
00:00:55.060 that we would not disclose anything in the agreement
00:00:57.340 without their permission, and mutually they would do the same.
00:01:01.540 But what I can tell you to bring an ease of concern is that these are very standard.
00:01:07.260 We have MOUs with the FBI, with the DEA, with the CIA, with other police agencies in Canada.
00:01:14.460 And it's really around how we share information.
00:01:16.780 It's how we actually disclose information.
00:01:18.620 It's how we actually do mutual investigations if we're requesting information.
00:01:24.860 Meantime, RCMP investigations into illegal Chinese police stations in Canada have largely ended with no criminal charges laid.
00:01:33.700 One of the two Michaels imprisoned in China for almost three years is warning Canada against strengthening economic ties with that country.
00:01:43.320 Former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig says seeking deeper ties with China could be a national security risk.
00:01:50.320 China is not a solution to most of our problems with the U.S., and in fact, deeper entanglement with China, for the most part, for most companies, brings more costs and risks and challenges than the likely benefits.
00:02:05.100 Kovrig and Michael Spavor were jailed in China in retaliation for the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in 2018.
00:02:15.020 Prime Minister Mark Carney denies Canada is entering trade negotiations with the United States,
00:02:20.980 with the Americans dictating terms.
00:02:23.480 He says both sides have their issues and trade irritants that will need to be heard.
00:02:27.800 We understand what some of the, what the Americans would call trade irritants or trade issues are.
00:02:33.400 We have some on our side as well.
00:02:36.240 We're well prepared around those issues.
00:02:38.460 We will sit down and work through those issues with the broader approach in the negotiation.
00:02:46.960 We've made some counter proposals, which they're aware.
00:02:51.220 And the time will come to really roll up our sleeves.
00:02:53.860 Like it's not a case of the United States, six states, the terms.
00:02:57.220 We have the negotiation. We can come to a mutually successful outcome.
00:03:02.480 There are unconfirmed media reports the Americans want Canada to pay an entry fee in order to
00:03:09.860 launch negotiations and for those talks to move forward. President Trump is on record as saying
00:03:16.100 that the Canadians need a deal much more than he does. Our guest today is Douglas McGregor,
00:03:21.680 combat veteran, retired colonel in the U.S. Army, and he was a senior military advisor under Trump
00:03:28.060 during the president's first term welcome sir happy to be here now iran has now seized two
00:03:35.340 ships in the strait of hormuz this of course was after president trump extended the ceasefire
00:03:41.580 what should we make of this because it looks like iran is becoming more brazen in terms of
00:03:47.740 trying to stick their finger in the face of the trump administration well i think the iranians
00:03:53.500 made it clear that as long as we try to blockade the persian gulf they're not really going to talk
00:04:00.380 to us they've said that's got to that's got to be lifted right away secondly the ships they seized
00:04:07.100 were seized when it was clear that they were trying to slip through the net uh through the
00:04:12.860 strait without coordinating with iran and iran is anxious to make sure we understand clearly
00:04:19.420 that they control the Strait of Hormuz, not us.
00:04:24.540 Do you agree with some analysts who say that this is really Iran's way of trying to rag the puck,
00:04:31.400 that the idea is to push things as close to the midterms as possible in order to force Trump's
00:04:38.080 hand, in order to keep gas prices high and aim towards a defeat of the Republicans in the midterms?
00:04:46.800 Do you agree with that assessment?
00:04:50.140 No.
00:04:50.860 There's no real difference between the left and the right or the Republicans and the Democrats as far as they can see.
00:04:57.160 When Tony Blinken was Secretary of State and flew all over the Middle East, he was widely regarded as an Israeli asset, just as Whitcoff and Kushner are seen as Israeli assets.
00:05:07.900 and the attitude and posture of the Biden administration vis-a-vis Iran is not very
00:05:13.720 different from the posture of the current administration. Need to understand, we began
00:05:19.940 the war. Everybody seems to lose sight of that, that wants to condemn Iran. Iran was attacked
00:05:27.200 by Israel, and then Israel persuaded us to join the fight. I say persuade. You can use whatever 1.00
00:05:33.580 words you want. And ultimately, everything is about Israel. This war would not even happen if 0.73
00:05:39.320 it were not for Israel. So people need to understand that. And the Iranians did not 0.98
00:05:44.240 decide when the war would start. We did. The fact that this year is a year with midterm elections 0.85
00:05:49.980 wasn't of terrible importance to them. Remember that the Iranians have a very straightforward
00:05:55.960 goal, and that is to survive. They're up against enormous air and missile power from the United
00:06:01.860 States. But they're a very large country, a continental power with some 93 million people
00:06:07.840 surrounded by mountains and to the south, almost impassable deserts. So they're a fortress and
00:06:14.940 they have built a force consisting largely of space-based and terrestrial surveillance linked
00:06:20.880 to missiles and unmanned systems. They can control everything within 500 or 600 miles,
00:06:28.560 perhaps a thousand miles of their borders. Right now, the entire U.S. naval force is
00:06:33.740 five to six hundred miles away from the Persian Gulf, because if they go any closer to it,
00:06:39.200 they'll be targeted, attacked, probably destroyed or sunk. So Iran's in a very strong position. 0.96
00:06:48.300 Did the Trump administration overstate the nuclear threat in order to justify the attack?
00:06:56.060 Overstate's a kind word.
00:06:57.400 I'd say more likely lie.
00:07:01.320 They just flat out lied?
00:07:03.320 Of course.
00:07:04.600 Mr. Netanyahu has been lying.
00:07:06.580 Mr. Netanyahu has been lying for decades.
00:07:09.880 For the last 30 years, Iran's been within a month, two months, three weeks, two weeks, two days, 48 hours, whatever you want of a nuclear weapon.
00:07:19.460 All of the intelligence analysts that have looked at this carefully and studied it 0.78
00:07:22.900 have constantly reminded us that there is no evidence of any interest in or desire to build
00:07:29.140 a nuclear weapon. Now, I personally think that will change. I think this war is going to change
00:07:33.980 that attitude dramatically. Because I think the lesson from the war with Iran, if you are 0.97
00:07:41.000 watching from a distance in any other sort of medium-sized country, is that if you don't have
00:07:45.840 a nuclear weapon, then you're vulnerable to attack by Israel and the United States who are nuclear 0.72
00:07:49.980 powers. So I think, if anything, we've now made certain the proliferation of nuclear weapons. 0.68
00:07:56.180 But Iran doesn't have one and hasn't tried to build one.
00:08:00.200 But what about the uranium enrichment in Iran that we're told about?
00:08:04.520 Well, you can enrich uranium to various levels depending upon what use you want to put it.
00:08:09.840 What you're talking about for a bomb is plutonium. That's 90% plus enrichment.
00:08:14.160 They have not done that.
00:08:15.840 but hasn't this been a topic of conversation during negotiations i mean we keep hearing
00:08:23.060 repeatedly that by the president that iran must be prevented from getting nuclear weapons and
00:08:30.020 that they have refused to agree uh not to proceed with their nuclear program well the second is a
00:08:37.920 bold-faced lie because they haven't proceeded with a nuclear weapon aimed or nuclear program aimed
00:08:44.760 a weapon we keep saying that that's the israeli line and that's israel's way of justifying us
00:08:51.000 participating in their war against iran now i think it's important to understand that
00:08:58.120 this this entire 30-year process that the israelis have been on with their agents in
00:09:02.680 the united states billionaires that are supporting them has been to put someone in the white house
00:09:07.720 it could be manipulated into starting a war against iran and that's that's now happened
00:09:13.640 and so everything over the last 47 years is exaggerated out of all proportion reality or
00:09:20.040 simply inaccurate and fictional it doesn't make any difference if you're mr netanyahu and you
00:09:25.960 want the greater israel project you have to destroy iran because iran is resisting you
00:09:32.680 and he wants jewish supremacy in the region the only way to get that in the short run is to get
00:09:38.520 rid of iran now naftali bennett former pm and mr netanyahu both now mentioned the turks as probably
00:09:47.320 the next target because the turks they say are at least as dangerous maybe more dangerous to them
00:09:54.440 than iran is so i think you're looking at an israeli attempt to fully exploit american
00:10:00.680 military power to make them the dominant power in the entire middle east
00:10:05.560 Well, what do we make of funding of terror groups like Hezbollah and the Houthis,
00:10:12.120 for instance, by Iran? Are you saying that hasn't happened or it's not a factor?
00:10:17.160 Hezbollah is a creature of Israeli military occupation. Until the Israelis occupied Lebanon,
00:10:22.920 southern Lebanon in particular, there was no Hezbollah. In fact, when the Israeli Defense
00:10:27.800 Force went into Lebanon initially, they were welcomed because they viewed the Israelis as 1.00
00:10:33.560 superior in terms of potential friends and cooperation to the syrians the syrians of 0.93
00:10:40.360 course sided with the people that the shiites and southern lemon didn't like so the party of god
00:10:48.280 emerges in response to israeli occupation hamas for instance was actually brought to life by mr
00:10:54.360 netanyahu he funded it it didn't exist and the mossad and mr netanyahu created it as a way to
00:11:02.520 balance the power of the palestine liberation organization that was running uh palestine they
00:11:09.480 wanted they wanted some counterbalance to that power and they wanted to split them so that the
00:11:14.840 palestinians would not unite so you have to go back and understand the truth then you see things
00:11:20.680 a little differently and as far as turkey goes turkey is a member of nato i believe and so
00:11:27.560 So wouldn't that fly in the face of the idea that somehow there would be any kind of American
00:11:34.360 cooperation in attacking that country?
00:11:37.960 Well, thus far, I don't think there's much evidence of any pushback from Washington or
00:11:42.520 Mr. Trump to anything the Israelis want to do.
00:11:45.200 As far as NATO is concerned, I think NATO is now dead man walking.
00:11:48.980 It's largely irrelevant.
00:11:50.680 It died on the battlefields in Ukraine.
00:11:53.160 The EU is also crumbling.
00:11:56.100 Europe is moving down very new roads.
00:11:58.260 It's got to figure out where it wants to go.
00:12:00.160 But the Europe that we knew five years, 10 years, 20 years ago is radically changed.
00:12:06.060 So I don't think the NATO connection is terribly meaningful.
00:12:09.380 In fact, the Turks have made it pretty clear that when they want to do business with the Russians or the Chinese or anyone else, they're going to do it.
00:12:17.340 In terms of the politics of this, and I take your point that as far as the Israelis are concerned, there's no difference between the two. 0.95
00:12:24.960 they just want somebody to manipulate. But are you aware of back-channel communications 0.85
00:12:29.300 between elements of the Democrat Party and the regime in Iran? Because obviously they see
00:12:39.420 political gain to having the war dragged on. So isn't it quite possible that the Democrats,
00:12:45.300 at least privately, are urging the Iranians to hold out, rag the puck, just drag things out,
00:12:52.400 because, according to them, it's a war.
00:12:55.560 The war is against Trump.
00:12:56.860 It's not against the United States.
00:13:01.160 Well, first of all, I don't see back channels.
00:13:04.780 I'm not a member of the administration.
00:13:07.500 Nobody shares back channels with me.
00:13:09.600 So I have no idea what's being said on back channels.
00:13:12.620 If what you say is true, then that is treason.
00:13:16.760 I'm no friend of the left,
00:13:18.900 but i'm not sure that i would accuse everyone on the left at this point of being treasonous i just
00:13:25.460 don't know how does this play out sir i mean you're looking at this you've been watching this
00:13:33.460 war weeks in you've seen the back and forth you know we're in a ceasefire now it's an extended
00:13:40.480 ceasefire but iran has just taken two ships to shore um yeah but let's be let's be frank those
00:13:48.640 ships were trying to break through the iranians control the strait they did what was predictable
00:13:54.880 there's nothing surprising about any of that we are stopping ships we think that perhaps as many
00:14:01.120 as 30 either going in or coming out have gotten through the blockade we don't have enough ships
00:14:06.480 to blockade this vast ocean. We had 180 vessels for the Cuban Missile Crisis when we effectively
00:14:14.320 blockaded Cuba. That blockade reached all the way into the North Atlantic. Right now we have
00:14:20.480 perhaps 27 vessels involved in the blockade that stretches from Pakistan quite a distance over to
00:14:27.600 Oman. I think we're overstretched in naval terms and that needs to be taken into consideration.
00:14:35.840 You know, I think what's going to happen now, unfortunately, is I think after this announcement 0.95
00:14:41.960 of an extended ceasefire, which the Iranians absolutely did not ask for, the Iranians never
00:14:46.760 asked to talk to us. We were the ones that asked to talk to them. They hold the strategic advantage. 0.78
00:14:53.500 I see no evidence that anything we do is going to wrest control of the Strait of Hormuz away from 1.00
00:14:58.840 Iran. We have the wrong force for the wrong century with the wrong capabilities to take on 1.00
00:15:04.760 this missile power and unmanned system power that Iran can employ very effectively. Iran also has 0.99
00:15:11.020 allies. It's strongly supported by China and Russia. Don't think they're going to allow Iran
00:15:15.960 to be destroyed by us. And effectively, that's what we're trying to do. We want to destroy Iran.
00:15:21.500 Why? Because that's what Israel wants. We tried regime change. That failed. We tried to inspire 1.00
00:15:27.780 upheaval inside the country. We lied about the numbers of people killed, saying 47,000. That's
00:15:33.740 lot of nonsense. It was perhaps 3,400. And 400 of the people killed were policemen. And that's one
00:15:39.520 of the reasons that they reacted the way they did. I think you've got a serious problem right
00:15:44.200 now. I don't think President Trump has any chance whatsoever with the military power at his disposal
00:15:48.880 to win against Iran in terms of controlling the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf.
00:15:55.400 It's not going to happen. It's very similar to the Dardanelles. If you go back to 1915, 0.75
00:16:00.280 the British tried to seize the Dardanelles from the Turks. They went in with 75,000 troops and
00:16:06.180 the biggest fleet in the world, with the strongest navy in the world. Ultimately, nine months later,
00:16:11.300 they pulled out. They pulled 500,000 troops out, withdrew their navy. They couldn't win it.
00:16:16.420 After the war was over, there was something called the Montrose Convention. The Montrose
00:16:21.420 Convention governs the control and the passage of ships through the straits between the strait
00:16:28.320 of the Dardanelles between Europe and Asia. The Turks, because they control most of that 0.92
00:16:34.280 strait geographically, that's theirs, they are in charge of it. And that has been the case since 1.00
00:16:40.060 1926. But when the treaty was signed, all the great powers stipulated the conditions and the
00:16:45.760 regulations. And the Turks have cooperated and done their job very, very well so that people
00:16:50.920 have been treated fairly. I think eventually that's what's going to happen with the Strait
00:16:54.580 of Hormuz. I see no evidence that we're going to dislodge Iran from control of it. And if we double 0.99
00:17:00.200 down and we escalate, which is where I think President Trump is likely to go, the Gulf states
00:17:05.980 that are on the west side of the Persian Gulf will cease to exist. Because we said that we are going
00:17:11.520 to attack all of their oil infrastructure, that is Iranian oil infrastructure and potentially 0.75
00:17:16.020 desalination plants. And the Iranians have said, if you do that, we will annihilate the
00:17:20.920 oil infrastructure desalination plants on the other side of the Gulf. 0.96
00:17:25.660 The Iranians have done consistently what they said they would do, and they have not done what
00:17:29.560 they said they would not do. So I think President Trump's in a tough position. He faces potential
00:17:36.180 humiliation internationally and a humiliation at home. He can't win this. He's got to find a way
00:17:42.100 out. So if you were advising him again, what would you tell him to do? I would immediately suspend
00:17:49.940 the blockade is a waste of time money and resources i would recognize that if we don't open the
00:17:54.500 strait we will have famine in major parts of the world it's not just oil it's all the various
00:18:00.180 petroleum products whether it's liquefied petroleum gas liquefied natural gas aluminum helium
00:18:09.060 phosphates nitrogen fertilizer if we don't open it up and get those things out to the rest of the
00:18:15.460 world four or five months from now you will have tens of millions of people starving to death
00:18:20.580 that's unacceptable that should not happen we don't want that to happen so he should step
00:18:25.940 forward and put an end to this then i think it would be a prudent of him to talk to people that
00:18:30.740 can act as intermediaries and begin negotiations to try and find a different way forward
00:18:36.260 because militarily this is not going to produce the victory he wants
00:18:39.300 I have to ask you about Canada. How do you see Canada's ongoing flirtation with China
00:18:48.440 as our trade relationship with the United States seems to be
00:18:52.240 very unstable and possibly have a rocky future?
00:18:57.840 Well, I think that we and the Canadians have a joint interest in cooperating because between us,
00:19:04.000 we have all the mineral resources, all the petroleum resources, everything that we could
00:19:09.580 possibly need to effectively shut down business with the rest of the world and survive in
00:19:15.140 perpetuity. We should be cooperating and working together. Now, this Canadian prime minister is a
00:19:21.620 globalist. And so he obviously hates President Trump, who is not a globalist. But that's kind
00:19:29.780 of antithetical to everybody's interest. But Trump has also turned around, as you know,
00:19:35.140 with his bombastic and imprudent statements, has offended large numbers of world leaders and
00:19:40.500 alienated people all over the world from us. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that that's
00:19:46.340 had an impact on somebody like Carney. But the interests of the United States and Canada are
00:19:51.980 more important than either the PM or the president. We have to recognize that. But that's very
00:19:57.260 difficult with President Trump. President Trump thinks that he is much more than just a man. He
00:20:03.320 sees himself in very lofty terms. All he had to do was look at this attempt by him to place his
00:20:09.240 face on the face of Jesus Christ. And when he was asked about it, what did he say? Oh, I was trying
00:20:14.960 to be like a physician and heal people. The man seems to be incapable of telling the truth about
00:20:20.900 anything. He's been lying for days and days and days about all sorts of talks that never happened,
00:20:25.820 about the desperation of the Iranians
00:20:29.040 for an agreement and a deal. 0.98
00:20:30.780 It's all nonsense.
00:20:32.180 We are the ones who are in a difficult position.
00:20:34.300 We brought this on ourselves. 1.00
00:20:36.120 The Iranians are nowhere near surrendering to us 1.00
00:20:39.140 under any circumstances.
00:20:40.660 They certainly will not submit to Israeli demands.
00:20:43.740 No one in the Middle East will do that.
00:20:45.680 So we've got to find a different way forward. 0.86
00:20:49.700 Douglas McGregor, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:20:52.720 We appreciate it.
00:20:53.280 We'd love to have you back sometime.
00:20:54.820 Okay, thank you.
00:20:56.140 Have a good day.
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