Juno News - August 15, 2025


Retired wildfire commander exposes the policy failures behind Nova Scotia’s fire strategy


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2 minutes

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180.0

Word count

417

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18


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In this episode, I talk about the changes in forest management in Nova Scotia that require a ban on people being present in forest land. I also talk about some of the changes that have taken place in the fire service in the province.

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00:00:00.000 I want to go back to land management for a bit, because what would be the changes in forest management that will require such a sweeping ban of people being present in forest land?
00:00:15.800 Well, I can give you some information.
00:00:17.420 Beginning in, I think, around 2005, 2006 in Nova Scotia, every district office for Department of Natural Resources had five-man fire crews in the summer, and they got cut back to three.
00:00:29.460 And then in 2012, we had a rapid response helitack team.
00:00:34.140 So they're the best of the best firefighters that the province had.
00:00:37.240 And they were positioned in the center of the province at fire control with a Bell 212 helicopter.
00:00:42.980 And when a fire got called in, if conditions were extremely bad and it was in a remote area at all,
00:00:50.340 that we would call helitack and they would be in the air within 15 minutes.
00:00:54.460 And in many cases, they would be a rapid response team and first people on the fire.
00:01:00.140 They would start a fire attack, and then the biggest helicopter the province had at the time would start dropping water.
00:01:05.420 I've seen cases where they were on the fire battling it for one to two hours before ground crews were able to get there.
00:01:12.620 And so what those guys did was they kept fires at three to four acres rather than turning into 30,000 to 40,000-acre fires.
00:01:19.800 So those guys got disbanded.
00:01:21.340 That big helicopter got sold.
00:01:23.640 We bought new helicopters that don't have the same lifting capacity,
00:01:26.920 and none of them are big enough to be able to transport a helitag team.
00:01:30.380 And then the province also dismantled our entire fire tower system
00:01:34.860 that was our early warning system for the province.
00:01:37.540 And this relates heavily to what I'm about to tell you.
00:01:41.280 When they shut down that entire system,
00:01:45.080 the justification was that with the advent of everybody having cell phones on their person,
00:01:50.200 that they would be the new early warning system from one end of the province to the other,
00:01:55.120 and the province would rely on those people calling in and reporting fires,
00:01:59.440 and as a result of that, we no longer needed the tower system.
00:02:03.220 And the Premier thought it was wise to put all of those people out of the woods,
00:02:07.800 and anybody that's in the woods, even with a travel permit,
00:02:10.960 they're restricted from having a smartwatch or a cell phone.
00:02:14.260 So this is not about protecting the woods from fire.