Juno News - June 13, 2021


Ryerson Conservative club’s lonely defence of Egerton Ryerson


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00:00:00.520 You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:00:08.480 Welcome back to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:00:10.960 We've been talking a lot about the tearing down of statues,
00:00:14.760 the ripping down of names from myriad buildings,
00:00:17.640 from schools to public edifices of a variety of types.
00:00:22.000 And now we have, of course, what's been shaping up
00:00:24.900 to be one of the battlegrounds for this,
00:00:26.520 which is Ryerson University.
00:00:27.900 Not only did a statue of the university's namesake,
00:00:31.600 Egerton Ryerson, come down last week,
00:00:33.620 but there are even, as we discussed in a previous show,
00:00:36.320 pushes to change the university's name itself,
00:00:39.140 not just the name of the school newspapers,
00:00:41.520 but basically to make it as though this guy
00:00:43.220 never had anything to do with this school.
00:00:46.180 Well, this didn't sit well with the Ryerson Conservative Club,
00:00:49.960 which you may think is a campus club
00:00:51.740 of the federal or provincial conservative parties,
00:00:54.600 and you would have been right up until a certain point.
00:00:56.780 And we'll talk about why that is now.
00:00:58.740 But I want to welcome to the show Harrison Faulkner,
00:01:00.740 who is the president of the Ryerson Conservatives.
00:01:03.660 Harrison, good to talk to you.
00:01:04.760 Thanks for coming on today.
00:01:06.320 Thank you very much for having me, Andrew.
00:01:08.180 So the Ryerson Conservatives, I want to put this up here,
00:01:10.900 put out a fantastic statement about this,
00:01:13.360 basically saying, give us the statue.
00:01:16.800 So the university might not want it,
00:01:18.480 the activists might not want it.
00:01:20.080 You're saying give it to us.
00:01:21.320 And you've said here that the Conservative Club at Ryerson
00:01:24.200 has been really on the front lines
00:01:25.780 of trying to defend Egerton Ryerson's name and reputation.
00:01:29.980 This isn't normally what a political club on campus would do,
00:01:33.640 but you've had to fill that void, it sounds like.
00:01:36.620 Yeah, you're exactly right.
00:01:38.540 For us, we just like to think of ourselves
00:01:41.080 as regular university students.
00:01:42.540 We don't expect that the responsibility to defend our history,
00:01:49.400 to defend the facts of this country,
00:01:52.780 we weren't expecting that to fall on our shoulders.
00:01:55.600 And we were expecting that the university
00:01:57.820 and the provincial government
00:01:59.760 and any stakeholders involved in the process
00:02:01.920 that carry a little bit more influence than us
00:02:04.720 would step in, would basically say,
00:02:08.880 these people are wrong.
00:02:09.860 This mob is not historically accurate at all.
00:02:15.160 And unfortunately, that has not been the case.
00:02:19.460 I think a lot of people, politicians,
00:02:21.620 especially on the Conservative side,
00:02:23.360 are afraid to engage in this particular battle
00:02:26.320 because of what happened in Kamloops
00:02:29.020 and because of the political danger,
00:02:34.320 the perceived danger,
00:02:35.920 that could come from someone
00:02:38.060 who is just trying to defend a good man,
00:02:41.360 someone who had great intentions,
00:02:43.260 who is not what the left are portraying him to be.
00:02:46.940 And really, that hasn't happened.
00:02:49.720 But we're the Conservative club at Ryerson.
00:02:52.720 And part of that is to conserve the identity of our university,
00:02:56.800 to advance conservatism on our campus.
00:02:58.380 And we really wouldn't be much of a Conservative club at Ryerson
00:03:01.600 if we weren't going to defend Edgerton,
00:03:04.460 if we weren't going to stand up to the criminal behaviour
00:03:08.440 that took place on Sunday.
00:03:10.080 So that's really where we're at right now with this.
00:03:13.000 And yeah, as you mentioned,
00:03:14.120 we have been a little left behind,
00:03:15.940 left to fight this battle on our own.
00:03:18.020 I want to get to how you have been treated
00:03:20.860 within the Conservative apparatus in a moment.
00:03:23.300 But I want to drill down first
00:03:24.960 into a comment you made about defending a good man.
00:03:27.960 So you're not taking the position that,
00:03:30.380 yeah, you know what,
00:03:31.420 he might have done some things that weren't great,
00:03:33.080 but it was the time, it was the context.
00:03:34.680 You're saying that what he stands accused of,
00:03:37.600 which is being a so-called architect
00:03:39.400 of the residential schools
00:03:41.240 that have become, I think,
00:03:42.140 very rightfully criticised in history,
00:03:43.860 you're saying that that really
00:03:45.180 doesn't describe him all that accurately.
00:03:47.700 Well, of course.
00:03:48.660 And before I get into it,
00:03:50.200 our defence of Egerton Ryerson
00:03:52.660 has, of course, by the left been taken
00:03:54.600 as some sort of apology
00:03:56.660 for the residential school system.
00:03:58.220 And that's just not the case.
00:04:00.880 What we are trying to say
00:04:02.420 is that Egerton Ryerson,
00:04:05.140 one, is not responsible
00:04:06.280 for what happened in Kamloops
00:04:07.880 and at that particular residential school.
00:04:09.580 And we're also saying
00:04:10.840 this line that has been parroted around
00:04:13.400 by mainstream press,
00:04:15.300 by left-wing politicians in this country,
00:04:18.060 the architect of residential schools,
00:04:20.260 that's just not the case.
00:04:22.860 Egerton Ryerson is being accused
00:04:24.680 as the architect
00:04:25.760 or the mastermind
00:04:27.260 of the residential school system
00:04:28.380 because of a private letter
00:04:29.780 he wrote to George Varden,
00:04:32.120 who was the, I believe,
00:04:33.500 the superintendent of education
00:04:34.820 at the time.
00:04:35.840 And Egerton Ryerson laid out
00:04:37.420 what his beliefs were
00:04:38.780 in the sense that he believed
00:04:40.560 at the time indigenous children
00:04:42.580 should learn agriculture
00:04:43.960 so that they can use the land
00:04:46.060 that they have
00:04:46.800 to make a good living off of it.
00:04:49.640 He never advocated
00:04:50.880 for forced child separation.
00:04:53.400 He never advocated
00:04:54.460 for any of the abuses
00:04:56.260 that have since come out
00:04:57.640 about the residential school system.
00:04:59.500 And the Ryerson conservatives
00:05:01.080 believe that Egerton Ryerson
00:05:02.340 not only has been chosen
00:05:03.940 as the fall guy
00:05:04.840 for the residential school system
00:05:06.360 in today's era,
00:05:08.000 we believe that the private letter
00:05:09.820 Egerton Ryerson wrote
00:05:10.860 to George Varden
00:05:11.640 was used by people
00:05:13.660 who knew they were doing
00:05:14.780 something wrong
00:05:15.640 in the late 1800s
00:05:17.720 and used Egerton Ryerson,
00:05:19.560 a man who was about to die,
00:05:22.120 as the person,
00:05:23.460 as the architect of this system
00:05:25.060 because they knew
00:05:25.880 what they were doing was wrong.
00:05:27.300 And if you do any research at all
00:05:29.000 about Egerton,
00:05:30.420 you will know that that is the case,
00:05:31.900 that Egerton Ryerson
00:05:32.660 was an abolitionist.
00:05:34.540 He fought for education
00:05:35.720 for black Canadians
00:05:37.320 before anyone was even
00:05:38.440 thinking about that.
00:05:39.180 He was well ahead of his time.
00:05:41.100 And further,
00:05:42.660 he was a lifelong friend
00:05:45.380 of the Mississauga
00:05:46.640 of the Credit chief
00:05:47.620 and he learned Ojibwe
00:05:48.860 so that he could understand
00:05:49.920 these people better.
00:05:51.200 And that is something
00:05:51.960 that understandably so
00:05:53.580 for the left
00:05:54.060 is never brought up
00:05:54.800 in their criticisms of Egerton.
00:05:56.540 But it would be fair
00:05:58.220 for anyone else
00:06:00.240 other than just
00:06:00.920 the Ryerson conservatives
00:06:01.980 to put this information
00:06:04.880 into the public conversation
00:06:07.480 to help us
00:06:08.800 in this basically
00:06:10.380 this battle
00:06:10.960 against historical illiteracy.
00:06:13.140 And you've had to,
00:06:14.480 of course,
00:06:14.880 battle against the school
00:06:16.040 and against the mainstream
00:06:17.000 media narrative on this.
00:06:18.420 You've also found yourself
00:06:19.980 in a bit of a battle
00:06:20.900 with the party
00:06:21.900 that your club historically
00:06:23.240 has been aligned with
00:06:24.720 or parties rather,
00:06:25.720 I should say,
00:06:26.180 the federal conservatives
00:06:27.140 and the provincial conservatives.
00:06:29.080 And I just want to give people
00:06:30.060 a bit of context here
00:06:31.060 because last year,
00:06:32.920 this school year,
00:06:33.860 but last year,
00:06:34.620 Aaron O'Toole
00:06:35.180 had famously come
00:06:37.080 and done a little bit
00:06:38.280 of a Zoom chat
00:06:39.700 with your club.
00:06:40.900 And he talked
00:06:41.700 in a very frank manner
00:06:43.060 about cancel culture
00:06:44.300 and standing up
00:06:45.100 for historic figures.
00:06:46.200 And then the mainstream media
00:06:47.640 caught wind of this.
00:06:48.940 And, you know,
00:06:49.380 Aaron O'Toole did,
00:06:50.240 as you've pointed out
00:06:51.180 in your statement,
00:06:51.880 what so many
00:06:52.640 conservative politicians do,
00:06:54.000 which is backtrack,
00:06:55.040 apologize,
00:06:56.080 and not really win
00:06:57.440 the support
00:06:58.100 of any of the critics
00:06:59.080 in the process.
00:07:00.220 But where did things
00:07:01.060 go off the rails
00:07:01.880 after that point
00:07:03.080 between you
00:07:03.940 and Aaron O'Toole
00:07:05.400 and also,
00:07:06.220 for that matter,
00:07:06.880 the Ontario PCs
00:07:07.880 and Doug Ford?
00:07:09.580 Well, first of all,
00:07:10.780 the Ryerson conservatives
00:07:12.120 have been around
00:07:12.720 for many years.
00:07:14.520 And our affiliation
00:07:15.440 with both parties
00:07:16.140 has been really,
00:07:16.880 really strong.
00:07:17.620 And at the end of the day,
00:07:19.060 although we may disagree
00:07:19.900 with the party,
00:07:20.900 our members are members
00:07:22.280 of both of these parties.
00:07:24.180 When we grow our club,
00:07:25.280 we are growing the membership
00:07:26.340 of both the parties.
00:07:27.440 And so there is
00:07:27.940 an understanding there
00:07:28.740 and a respect there.
00:07:30.560 But as you mentioned,
00:07:31.900 Aaron O'Toole
00:07:34.300 did speak to our club.
00:07:35.540 We had a fantastic conversation
00:07:36.900 with him in September.
00:07:39.040 And we asked him
00:07:40.360 about what we can do
00:07:41.560 as Ryerson conservatives
00:07:42.940 to defend
00:07:44.080 Egerton Ryerson's legacy
00:07:45.160 and to push back
00:07:45.980 against, really,
00:07:47.240 these radicals
00:07:48.060 and these criminals.
00:07:50.120 And he gave us
00:07:51.280 a great answer,
00:07:52.480 one that we wanted
00:07:53.220 to publicize
00:07:54.120 to show that
00:07:55.640 we have the support
00:07:56.820 and the backing
00:07:57.340 of our leaders.
00:07:59.360 And of course,
00:08:00.380 the press,
00:08:00.920 after a few months,
00:08:03.080 caught wind of this video
00:08:04.180 and then tried
00:08:06.000 to make Aaron O'Toole
00:08:07.380 out to be this apologist
00:08:09.200 for residential schools.
00:08:10.340 And, you know,
00:08:11.260 under the heat of the moment,
00:08:12.380 I can understand
00:08:13.140 why someone would want
00:08:14.380 to apologize.
00:08:15.220 But if you do,
00:08:16.520 as we've said before,
00:08:17.280 if you do any research
00:08:18.180 into Egerton Ryerson,
00:08:19.620 there's nothing
00:08:20.060 to apologize for
00:08:21.100 for what Aaron O'Toole said.
00:08:22.500 Egerton Ryerson
00:08:23.140 is not deserving
00:08:24.320 of this level of criticism
00:08:25.800 and this level
00:08:26.700 of vitriol.
00:08:27.840 What we take issue
00:08:30.620 with is that
00:08:32.320 when we do this,
00:08:34.000 when we make
00:08:34.560 these efforts
00:08:35.080 as a conservative club
00:08:36.220 trying to conserve
00:08:37.620 the identity
00:08:38.140 of not just our university
00:08:39.200 but our country
00:08:39.940 and our province,
00:08:41.800 we expect
00:08:42.680 that the elected
00:08:44.620 conservatives
00:08:45.140 will also be interested
00:08:46.280 in conserving
00:08:46.880 this country,
00:08:48.300 this province
00:08:48.780 and our university.
00:08:49.780 And, unfortunately,
00:08:52.720 the tough part
00:08:55.300 is that NDP politicians,
00:08:57.720 liberal politicians,
00:08:58.860 they have engaged
00:08:59.640 in this debate,
00:09:00.360 they have entered
00:09:00.940 this conversation
00:09:02.180 and we have really
00:09:04.220 become the only voice,
00:09:06.300 the only organization
00:09:07.060 that is defending
00:09:07.920 Egerton Ryerson.
00:09:08.780 Our main issue
00:09:09.580 is that we would
00:09:10.100 like some support,
00:09:11.380 we would have liked
00:09:12.000 to have the backing
00:09:13.720 of the premier,
00:09:16.080 of the leader
00:09:17.040 of the opposition
00:09:17.660 and to really feel
00:09:18.620 that that exists
00:09:19.340 and unfortunately
00:09:20.420 when it comes
00:09:20.960 to this particular moment,
00:09:22.940 we've been left
00:09:23.800 to fight this on our own.
00:09:25.540 That's, I think,
00:09:26.420 a very important point
00:09:27.740 and a lot of people
00:09:28.680 would say
00:09:29.240 for the conservative party,
00:09:31.400 this isn't the fight
00:09:32.160 they need to be taking up,
00:09:33.460 this isn't the fight
00:09:34.800 that is worth fighting
00:09:35.800 in an election season
00:09:37.160 potentially
00:09:37.720 and all of that
00:09:38.640 and the problem
00:09:39.600 with that is that
00:09:40.300 if you cede the ground
00:09:41.560 on these issues
00:09:42.600 that are seemingly
00:09:43.260 insignificant,
00:09:44.120 eventually you get
00:09:44.700 to the point
00:09:45.200 where no one
00:09:46.100 is left standing
00:09:46.920 and that's increasingly
00:09:48.280 where we're at now
00:09:49.280 and to bring it back
00:09:50.360 to the statue
00:09:50.940 of Egerton Ryerson,
00:09:52.160 there was a time
00:09:53.080 not even that long ago
00:09:54.260 where the school
00:09:55.260 would be criticizing
00:09:57.040 the vandalism
00:09:57.920 of its property
00:09:58.740 rather than saying,
00:10:00.080 okay, we're not going
00:10:00.640 to put it back up.
00:10:01.740 So you're endorsing
00:10:03.460 what the vandals have done
00:10:05.260 and you are right,
00:10:06.420 it's becoming
00:10:06.860 a very lonely battle.
00:10:09.040 Yes, you're exactly right
00:10:10.580 and this conversation
00:10:11.960 wouldn't be right
00:10:12.760 if we didn't
00:10:13.920 accurately call out
00:10:15.520 the university's role
00:10:16.580 in this really
00:10:17.820 embarrassing moment.
00:10:19.500 But in fairness,
00:10:20.260 we expect that
00:10:21.020 from universities now.
00:10:22.280 You're talking about
00:10:23.160 the conservative parties
00:10:24.340 or ostensibly
00:10:25.080 conservative parties
00:10:26.100 being absent
00:10:26.920 from this fight too.
00:10:28.260 Yes, and Ryerson University
00:10:30.720 known for its
00:10:31.740 left-wing stances
00:10:34.320 on public issues,
00:10:35.500 we knew that
00:10:35.980 this would be the case
00:10:36.980 but the difficulty
00:10:39.040 with what happened
00:10:39.780 on Sunday,
00:10:40.480 the day that
00:10:41.000 these criminals
00:10:42.200 took down
00:10:43.140 the Egerton Ryerson statue
00:10:44.420 that stood for 132 years
00:10:46.440 I should add
00:10:47.140 is that
00:10:48.500 the Toronto police
00:10:49.820 knew that this was
00:10:50.720 going to happen
00:10:51.240 ahead of time.
00:10:52.680 It was well publicized.
00:10:53.660 We knew that this
00:10:54.180 was going to happen
00:10:54.780 or we didn't know
00:10:55.360 that the statue
00:10:55.860 was going to come down
00:10:56.520 but that there was
00:10:57.100 going to be
00:10:57.400 a large demonstration.
00:10:59.180 The police knew it.
00:11:00.080 They actually tweeted
00:11:00.840 that they would not
00:11:01.860 tolerate vandalism
00:11:03.300 or violence
00:11:03.920 at the statue
00:11:04.980 and I personally
00:11:07.260 went down to the statue
00:11:08.380 when I heard
00:11:09.020 of the news
00:11:09.480 that the Egerton Ryerson
00:11:10.940 statue had fallen.
00:11:11.780 I went down there
00:11:13.200 in my role
00:11:14.140 as president
00:11:14.600 of the Ryerson
00:11:15.080 Conservatives
00:11:15.660 and really the
00:11:16.340 head of the only group
00:11:17.980 in this fight
00:11:18.860 to see it
00:11:20.180 from my own eyes
00:11:20.840 to really take in
00:11:21.800 the gravity of this
00:11:23.180 and I couldn't find
00:11:24.920 a single police officer
00:11:26.320 anywhere on campus.
00:11:28.200 In fact,
00:11:28.640 I looked around
00:11:29.740 where the Ryerson statue
00:11:30.680 was and I couldn't find
00:11:31.680 any Ryerson security
00:11:33.420 either,
00:11:33.980 the security guards
00:11:34.820 that all of our members
00:11:36.700 pay for
00:11:37.360 as part of our tuition
00:11:38.500 to Ryerson.
00:11:39.640 So again,
00:11:40.520 it wasn't just
00:11:41.160 an abandonment
00:11:42.000 of our supporters
00:11:44.000 that we felt
00:11:44.680 we were left behind by.
00:11:46.540 We were really
00:11:47.120 left behind
00:11:48.280 and abandoned
00:11:48.920 by the Toronto police
00:11:50.060 and Ryerson security
00:11:51.260 and no one was there
00:11:52.560 to uphold the law.
00:11:53.740 No one was there
00:11:54.380 to actually push back
00:11:56.000 against these
00:11:56.680 really embarrassing scenes
00:11:58.540 that have now played out
00:11:59.600 on international news
00:12:00.960 which make our university
00:12:02.560 look like a bit of a mess,
00:12:05.160 more than a bit of a mess
00:12:06.220 but they do not make
00:12:08.120 our university look good
00:12:09.320 and that's really a shame.
00:12:11.320 Now I should say,
00:12:12.300 I know I mentioned this
00:12:13.080 at the beginning,
00:12:13.860 you're saying in the statement here
00:12:15.220 give us the statue,
00:12:16.840 that is a real offer,
00:12:18.280 you're willing to take this
00:12:19.180 from the university, right?
00:12:20.360 And I just have to ask
00:12:21.540 on top of that,
00:12:22.100 where would you put it?
00:12:23.160 I'm guessing most dorms
00:12:24.340 don't have room
00:12:25.500 although I could be wrong.
00:12:27.240 Yeah, well so
00:12:27.980 that tagline is
00:12:29.920 really we've adopted it
00:12:31.500 since the statue
00:12:32.280 had come down
00:12:32.800 because we're working
00:12:34.040 on information
00:12:34.800 that we've received
00:12:35.480 from the university.
00:12:36.200 I should say that
00:12:37.160 I have spoken with
00:12:38.840 people who work
00:12:39.720 in the university
00:12:40.300 and they respect
00:12:41.220 the work that we have done
00:12:42.240 and they understand
00:12:43.860 that we are a stakeholder
00:12:45.060 in this process
00:12:45.880 which we have to
00:12:47.720 thank them for.
00:12:49.460 They have told us
00:12:50.260 that the body of the statue
00:12:51.420 is in the possession
00:12:52.720 of the university.
00:12:53.660 Of course the head
00:12:54.360 is no longer on the statue
00:12:55.640 and the pedestal
00:12:57.540 that it stood on
00:12:58.680 is I imagine
00:13:00.620 as well in the possession
00:13:02.660 of the university.
00:13:03.280 And that line
00:13:05.240 comes from the fact
00:13:06.040 that as you mentioned
00:13:06.960 at the top of the interview
00:13:07.780 the university
00:13:09.600 doesn't want it.
00:13:10.820 They've said
00:13:11.160 that they're not
00:13:11.520 going to put it up.
00:13:12.580 The police
00:13:13.360 don't want to defend it.
00:13:15.180 The Ontario government
00:13:16.500 hasn't shown any interest
00:13:17.920 in protecting that statue
00:13:19.540 or the history
00:13:20.300 that it stands for.
00:13:21.860 And as the only group
00:13:23.000 that has publicly
00:13:24.040 put up a defense
00:13:24.760 of the statue
00:13:25.280 we believe that
00:13:26.480 we should be the ones
00:13:28.180 in possession
00:13:28.540 of the body of the statue.
00:13:29.680 Now where we would put it
00:13:31.100 we're not quite sure
00:13:32.500 as to where it would go.
00:13:34.140 I will say that
00:13:35.280 Egerton Ryerson
00:13:36.760 grew up in
00:13:38.840 near the town of Simcoe
00:13:40.560 in southern Ontario.
00:13:41.760 And we have
00:13:43.140 as a group
00:13:43.920 always felt
00:13:44.580 that if the statue
00:13:45.260 were to be moved
00:13:46.100 the statue should
00:13:47.460 go down to Simcoe, Ontario
00:13:49.960 where it can be
00:13:51.320 properly celebrated
00:13:52.200 and properly venerated.
00:13:53.860 And Egerton Ryerson
00:13:54.660 where really
00:13:56.200 he is well respected
00:13:58.160 in that area.
00:13:59.360 We think the statue
00:14:00.100 should go there.
00:14:00.780 But of course
00:14:01.440 now that process
00:14:03.560 is not going to work
00:14:04.260 because it is headless
00:14:05.140 and it is without a pedestal.
00:14:07.540 So really
00:14:08.400 what we're advocating for
00:14:09.640 is to give the statue
00:14:11.080 back to people
00:14:11.780 that respect it.
00:14:13.020 Maybe it might not be us
00:14:14.140 but in that statement
00:14:16.200 give us the statue
00:14:17.020 we're really talking about
00:14:18.000 people who
00:14:18.840 believe in the facts
00:14:20.660 believe in the real history
00:14:21.980 of this country
00:14:22.600 not the narratives
00:14:23.600 that are being spread
00:14:24.420 and we believe
00:14:25.300 the statue should belong
00:14:26.420 to those people.
00:14:28.920 Ryerson Conservatives
00:14:30.040 President Harrison Faulkner
00:14:31.320 good to talk to you
00:14:31.900 thanks very much
00:14:32.460 for coming on
00:14:33.120 and great work on this.
00:14:34.400 Thank you very much Andrew.
00:14:35.520 I was
00:14:36.060 when I was in university
00:14:37.200 heavily involved
00:14:38.060 in campus politics
00:14:39.580 so I have a great deal
00:14:41.220 of appreciation
00:14:41.980 to be a conservative
00:14:43.120 on a university campus
00:14:44.520 certainly a downtown
00:14:45.640 Toronto
00:14:46.240 university campus
00:14:47.960 in 2021
00:14:48.800 is no doubt
00:14:50.060 an act of courage
00:14:51.160 and an act of rebellion
00:14:52.220 so good on Harrison Faulkner
00:14:54.300 and his crew
00:14:55.040 for again
00:14:55.560 standing up against
00:14:56.660 the malignment
00:14:57.840 of a historic figure
00:14:59.360 and as we've just heard
00:15:00.280 whose only real sin
00:15:01.560 was living in an era
00:15:03.460 prior to the current one
00:15:05.140 so my thanks again
00:15:05.960 to Harrison
00:15:06.460 for coming on
00:15:07.100 and talking about that.
00:15:08.000 Thanks for listening
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00:15:32.540 to our next adventure
00:15:32.960 to their own
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00:15:35.000 well
00:15:35.760 as we're here
00:15:36.220 through immediately
00:15:36.460 and we'll be right back
00:15:37.180 and we'll be right back
00:15:38.660 next to everyone
00:15:38.700 in the next week
00:15:39.380 next week
00:15:40.300 and then we'll be right back
00:15:41.340 by going on
00:15:41.840 and going on