The crown withdraws its charge against Tamara Leach, who is back in court for the never ending trial of her former co-accused, Tom Marazzo, for allegedly violating bail restrictions on her release from custody.
00:01:00.000welcome to canada's most irreverent talk show this is the andrew lawton show brought to you by true
00:01:20.420north hello and welcome to you all canada's most irreverent talk show the andrew lawton show here
00:01:30.640on true north it is monday october 23rd 2023 and i apologize in advance if my voice doesn't make it
00:01:39.840to the end of the show right now i'm coming mildly strong but i don't think i will be able to hold
00:01:45.860that up to the end. By Saturday night, I had no voice whatsoever. No, I'm not sick. I don't need
00:01:51.300to get like the 19th booster or wear my triple masks when I go to the bathroom or anything like
00:01:55.920that. I was talking up a storm on stage and off stage Saturday at True North Nation, our first
00:02:02.720ever live and in-person events. We had like 450 people come out to see me and Harrison and Rachel
00:02:10.920Emanuel and Brett Wilson and Danielle Smith and Lindsay Shepard and Candice Malcolm. And I feel
00:02:15.640like I've probably forgotten a couple of people who are on stage it's not intentional or personal
00:02:20.040but uh to those of you that I got to meet there thank you so much for coming out uh we had we
00:02:25.580decided early on when we were putting this thing together we wanted it to be fun I have been to
00:02:31.040many boring conferences and there is nothing worse than being locked up in a conference room all day
00:02:38.260and forced to listen to people like me drone on we wanted to have it be a bit lighter so we're like
00:02:43.120what could we do to make it fun? We brought in a popcorn machine. We had a game show and in a
00:02:49.040little bit of an homage to the greatest hate symbol in the history of Canada, we had a bouncy
00:02:54.740castle. It was a way to ward off the woke forces that might want to dismantle all the work that
00:03:00.780we're doing. I said on stage, I didn't realize all I needed to do to trigger the left was just
00:03:05.320eat an apple. Had I known that it would have been slightly cheaper than the bouncy castle,
00:03:09.320But I did get a picture in front of the Bounty Castle with this lovely lady, Tamara Leach, who came with her husband and sister and met some people there, which was quite lovely.
00:03:21.320And, you know, I honored her just by naming her from the stage and she got a standing ovation.
00:03:25.900She is now back in court for the never ending trial, although a bit of good news on the horizon in that front that is breaking in nature.
00:03:33.960the crown has withdrawn its charge of violating bail of breaking her bail restrictions this just
00:03:41.640came down the pipeline in the last couple of hours the crown said it was denying the charge
00:03:47.300that it had put on her last year where you may remember this she took a photo at the justice
00:03:52.940center for constitute well she didn't even take it someone took a photo of her and some other folks
00:03:57.500at the justice center for constitutional freedoms dinner and in the photo like i don't know four
00:04:03.120people down was Tom Marazzo, with whom she was not supposed to have any contact. So they literally
00:04:08.040had a Canada-wide warrant and had police pick her up in Medicine Hat and fly her to Ottawa to go
00:04:14.420back to jail. So that charge has now been withdrawn. And one of the reasons the court said
00:04:19.980was that, or the prosecutor said, was that, well, you know, this trial is already going on so long.
00:04:25.240Let's just focus all our efforts on this. So they want to make sure they can really, really give her
00:04:29.860the gears on the current charges they're trying and not have to worry about this one and incidentally
00:04:35.260Tom Marazzo is going to be on the show tomorrow not about this we'll be talking to him about
00:04:39.100something else but I I was worried and I said to Tamara I should probably shouldn't share this but
00:04:44.560I think it's fine now I said to Tamara I said I'll take the picture with you but like please
00:04:48.680don't like please tell me this isn't going to like violate your bail condition she said no I think
00:04:52.800we're fine so who knows if like a bouncy castle is like this great symbol of all of these things
00:04:58.220she's not supposed to be doing now in the eyes of the state. You never know. But she did not seem
00:05:02.840to be phased by that and actually brought to our True North organizer some of these delicious mini
00:05:08.140cheesecakes from Medicine Hat, which were, I looked like I ate them all. I did not eat them
00:05:12.480all. I only had a bit of one, but they were absolutely delightful. So thanks again to everyone
00:05:17.180for coming out there. Getting into the breaking news today on the non Tamera Leach trial front,
00:05:23.720of which there is a great deal, I wanted to discuss this scourge of anti-Semitism that we see
00:05:30.660coming out of the shadows. Now, I've quoted oftentimes my friend Laura Rosen-Cohen,
00:05:37.200who's a fantastic writer, who coined the phrase, everyone meets at Jew hate junction.
00:05:42.700And it's, you know, quite a little witty, snappy phrase, but there's a lot of truth behind it,
00:05:47.840because it's the place that seems to be the natural resting point for a lot of bigots.
00:05:53.300They can all sort of agree on being anti-Semites and being anti-Semitic.
00:05:57.360And in the first few days of Hamas's latest attack on Israel,
00:06:02.320it was very trendy to condemn Hamas, to denounce Hamas.
00:06:05.900It was the morally right thing to do, but it was also the trendy thing to do.
00:06:09.820And the people who have a great deal of disdain and contempt for Jews
00:06:13.760kept their mouths shut, some of them, not all of them, for a couple of days.
00:06:18.240Well, as Israel mounts its counteroffensive and tries to push the Hamas forces back and relegate terrorism to its place,
00:06:27.840people who despise Israel and its existence and the fact that the Jewish people have a state of their own have not been able to keep quiet for long.
00:06:36.540And interestingly enough, even some of the people that have previously apologized for their statements are now reverting back to it.
00:06:43.440For example, Sarah Jamma, who is a, well, was until this morning, a new Democrat member of Ontario's legislature.
00:06:51.060You may recall she issued this statement about, you know, resistance and all that.
00:06:56.840And then she kind of pivoted that to a pseudo-apology walkback of sorts.
00:07:04.600And then the NDP was like, okay, great, we've dealt with this.
00:07:08.720Well, now she started doubling down again.
00:07:10.820And we hear from Sarah Jama more reiterating of this, and essentially she's been unrepentant.
00:07:16.880Well, this morning she was removed from the NDP caucus.
00:07:21.020Now, some NDPers who agree with everything she says on Israel are very unhappy about this.
00:07:26.580But if you want your party to exist on the fringes, you welcome people like Sarah Jama.
00:07:31.840If you want it to be a serious party, which in Ontario it kind of is, then this was probably the right move.
00:07:37.880But the reason I bring all of this up right now is that it is increasingly normalized and mainstream
00:07:43.840to take very radical anti-Israel positions. And I'm not saying criticism of Israel is always
00:07:49.820anti-Semitic or that criticism of Israel is always radical, but I'm saying that the very
00:07:54.880fervent anti-Israel rhetoric is almost always anti-Semitic in nature. And when I say it's
00:08:01.320mainstreamed, I mean people that are looking to enter the workforce, finish up their studies,
00:08:05.360are owning up to the fact that they hold Israel in a great deal of contempt, not just the decisions
00:08:11.340the country makes, but the existence of the country. You may have seen this. Over the weekend,
00:08:15.920there was an open letter distributive signed by dozens of students at TMU's law school. Now,
00:08:22.860you may not know what TMU is. I don't think they do either. It's okay. This is Toronto Metropolitan
00:08:28.500University, which is the name of, it's the artist formerly known as Ryerson, because saying the
00:08:34.980word Ryerson is now a hate crime. So you have to say Toronto Metropolitan University, or you can
00:08:40.820actually say uneducated moronic douchebag institution, because that is essentially the
00:08:46.180reputation it attracts when these sorts of students are defining it. Now, these are law
00:08:51.200students. These are students who have gone through undergraduate studies. They are educated by
00:08:56.120definition, and now they are about to enter the wonderful world of law. Now, you may have some
00:09:02.840criticisms about lawyers and I think that's fair, but I want to read some of the comments in this
00:09:08.300letter to you. This is a letter that they signed that they put their names to. 1L students who are
00:09:13.840in their first year of law school, 2L students, 3L students, also alumni, and in this letter
00:09:19.840they say that they recognize the apartheid state referred to as, quote, Israel is a product of
00:09:28.620settler colonialism. They say Israel is responsible for an illegal occupation and
00:09:33.780ethnically cleansing. They say Israel is a settler colony. And more importantly, they say
00:09:39.540we stand in solidarity with Palestine and support all forms of Palestinian resistance
00:09:46.160and efforts toward liberation. All forms. They go on to say they condemn any statement that shifts
00:09:52.680the narrative away from colonialism. They say it's not a war. We can't both sides it. They say
00:09:57.660Israel's the bad guy unequivocally because they are the oppressor and Hamas and the Palestinians
00:10:03.280are the oppressed. This is a letter they have a right to issue. They have a right to sign it.
00:10:10.400One of the things that is worth noting is that law students are in about two weeks time going
00:10:15.520to be applying for jobs or interviewing for jobs at Toronto Bay Street firms. Now you may or may
00:10:21.140not know this and I don't think it's an unfair stereotype but there are some high-profile Jewish
00:10:26.100lawyers around that I would hope would raise some very serious concerns within their firms
00:10:31.340about these students who are not just expressing their opinions, but expressing opinions
00:10:35.920that literally and explicitly justify and condone violence. When they say all forms of resistance,
00:10:42.400they mean that paratrooping in and kidnapping an Israeli grandma and beheading a baby and raping
00:10:49.800a teenager, well, that is all just resistance. And how dare you criticize them when they're just the
00:10:55.320oppressed, victim, colonized. That's what they're saying, that all of that is completely and utterly
00:11:03.000fine and fair game. It is not just despicable and disgusting, but it borders on evil. And these
00:11:11.900students should know better. And I would say, if you believe that, absolutely. Put your name to it,
00:11:18.500wear it proudly. And I hope that anyone who wishes to hire you will understand the issues that you
00:11:23.420want to advocate for as a lawyer when you issue that statement to your university, because that
00:11:28.400is precisely what's happening here. Now, of course, the letter got deleted, but not before
00:11:31.800screenshots, which you can look up if you're so inclined, sharing the names and titles which
00:11:36.600these people put on the letter themselves were made and are a part of the screenshots that are
00:11:42.080circulating. And when you ask the question, which is a legitimate one, well, hang on, are you being
00:11:47.360unfair when you say that people who are anti-israel are anti-semitic and i always put the caveat that
00:11:53.920not necessarily but more often not they are let's for example take a look at this video footage from
00:12:02.080the weekend at a popular toronto restaurant at which i've never been but i've heard very good
00:12:36.720Now you may wonder why they're targeting this restaurant. Now I've never been there. Supposedly they have very good schnitzel. To my knowledge the restaurant has never been explicitly political. I have not seen any statements or proclamations of being Zionist but the restaurant is Jewish owned and it seems to me from my perspective the only reason it was targeted by these activists is because a Jew dared own a restaurant in downtown Toronto.
00:13:06.160and that is worthy of calls for boycott.
00:13:09.480You often hear university campuses very explicitly and openly
00:13:13.980vow to support the boycott divestment sanctions movement,
00:13:17.640which is to say we should boycott Israeli products.
00:13:20.500Sometimes they will go so far as to say Israeli people,
00:13:22.880Israeli academics, and divest from any Israeli company
00:13:26.340and sanction Israeli products and all of that.
00:13:29.020And it's not actually Israel thereafter, it's Jews.
00:13:33.220and they can cloak it all they want in the pretend,
00:18:27.040to be jewish in toronto right now which is enough to attract this attention and you are right when
00:18:33.680you make that reference in your tweet to truckers when there were a group of people that were
00:18:38.320planning when the convoy was in ottawa to drive around toronto and honk their horns for a bit
00:18:42.240police were giving press conferences they were talking about all these preventative measures
00:18:46.320and even if they didn't charge they were saying we need to be out in full force to say we aren't
00:18:49.920going to stand for this where is that on this scourge of anti-semitism it's non-existent
00:18:55.040so let me bring in a little bit of the law here i mean i'm not dressed like this to see you andrew
00:18:59.840i am in the middle of my work day and always a delight i thought i was special well you are but
00:19:04.880here's where i'm going to go back to agreeing with something that you said at the beginning
00:19:09.920you and i are both almost free speech absolutists okay and i very much am a free speech absolutist
00:19:18.240here's the point you now have a country that says there are hate speech laws that says public
00:19:28.160incitement to hatred is unacceptable but it seems like there's only one group of people that you can
00:19:34.880do it with only one group of people and where i say is if police were not going around and
00:19:42.000arresting people for not socially distancing or for demonstrating in Ottawa or for saying they
00:19:48.640don't want a vaccine mandate or not standing six feet behind somebody at Costco or Walmart
00:19:55.280I would be the first to say look police really shouldn't get in here this is odious and disgusting
00:20:01.600but by what double standard can somebody be arrested I mean literally arrested for taking
00:20:06.640their kid rollerblading in covid or complaining about pfizer but these people publicly inciting
00:20:13.760hatred and genocide which is what they're doing of the jewish people means no police response
00:20:19.840should be forthcoming and andrew to go inside baseball i can tell you very specifically a
00:20:25.600friend of mine was assaulted at young and blur the other night right on video right at one of
00:20:30.880these massive demonstrations and the police made very clear to him as a jew they're not there to
00:20:37.520arrest they don't want to make things any more heated they're just there to observe this is a
00:20:43.840toronto police service which i've lost a lot of love in my business i'm a criminal defense lawyer
00:20:49.920that's supposed to be very anti-police and not liking police i'm very out outspokenly pro-police
00:20:56.960the fact that the police brass i don't put this on the beat cop andrew the fact that the police
00:21:03.920brass understand the new demographics of the greater toronto area and it certainly isn't
00:21:10.160jewy and the fact that they're allowing this to take place is a very very scary thing and if you
00:21:17.520take the view that they should be hands off which is a legitimate debatable view it's a very worthy
00:21:23.600debate then ask yourself should dad have been arrested for taking kid rollerblading two years
00:21:30.440ago and trust me i did those cases so if the police are concerned with tamara leach on a day
00:21:37.180by the way where her stupid bail charge was just withdrawn a half an hour before you and i spoke
00:21:42.680she did 49 or 59 nights in jail the charge was withdrawn these people are advocating on young
00:21:50.040street in toronto that people like me should be killed and put into the sea that's what they're
00:21:55.880saying if you don't believe me hire a translator and the fact that they're all going to be future
00:22:00.840lawyers and this is ryer sinners or tmu students are putting in lawyers occupy as much as i can
00:22:08.360make a hundred jokes andrew a pretty lofty place at certain levels in our culture the idea that
00:22:14.520not only they're signing this and thinking it but they're saying it proudly other unlike those
00:22:21.000cowardly harvard pieces of garbage who didn't have the guts to sign it these people are putting their
00:22:26.680names to it and it won't cost them a single thing well and therein lies i think the crucial part of
00:22:32.440this ari which is that there has been in the last couple of weeks and i'd say it's been increasing
00:22:37.160over a number of years the normalization of this i mean it used to be uh people had the wherewithal
00:22:42.440to conceal certain beliefs like this. And maybe you'd see these pockets on university campuses,
00:22:47.000but now when someone says from the river to the sea, which is, you know, calling, I did the whole
00:22:51.840map analysis last week on this show. It's, it, they're from the river to the sea is the entirety
00:22:56.220of Israel. Property, Andrew, people have more property in Alberta. Yeah, exactly. So when they
00:23:01.540say that it's, uh, you know, I think an incredibly important point that they're proud of that. You
00:23:06.160know, they're proud of saying all forms of resistance. Now you have to have a level of
00:23:11.340temerity and brazenness to defend unequivocally all forms of resistance when babies were beheaded.
00:23:20.760Like, how on earth did this become so acceptable?
00:23:27.140Oh, I believe we've lost Ari there. We will hopefully get him back in a couple of moments.
00:23:32.340But I think the point stands. When they say all forms of resistance, they are saying that any
00:23:39.160single news story we have heard of atrocities happening was in their minds completely a-okay
00:23:47.020that's the position they've taken yesterday I don't know if you saw this and I I haven't done
00:23:53.280it myself because I was traveling yesterday and to be honest I don't know if I want to
00:23:57.220but Israel the Israeli government released to journalists hours and hours of footage and
00:24:04.800information it collected from Hamas officials and operatives that were apparently wearing body
00:24:10.540cams. They shared this and they said to all these people, you don't believe what they were doing
00:24:15.320here. Here's the evidence of what they were doing. And you're still going to get deniers and all of
00:24:19.620that. But we've got Ari back. Ari, I don't know where we lost you there, but basically my question
00:24:24.220was, when you say all forms of resistance are fine, knowing what we know about what Hamas has
00:24:29.720done you're defending that and how did that become acceptable how did that become a position that you
00:24:35.320could in mainstream society express well look you start andrew and i think somebody's not liking
00:24:41.160what i'm saying so they cut the internet feed even though it looks four bars but in any event
00:24:45.400you look at 9 11 okay the first and i think all roads i always believe this andrew i'm a person
00:24:51.880fascinated by 9 11 i'm 49 years old it's imprinted in my dna i have walked the tracks at auschwitz
00:24:59.720when you walk the tracks at Auschwitz, you feel things differently than an 18-year-old who never
00:25:05.460saw 9-11 and who has no idea what the Holocaust is. What they're saying right now, remember after
00:25:13.1809-11, the first thing Bush said is, don't be mad at the philosophy or political religious ideology
00:25:20.700that did this to America. It wasn't just done to the buildings, it was done to America. That's the
00:25:25.740first thing bush did so what did every western world country do andrew they did the opposite
00:25:31.020of what they should do now let's bring this back home to canada look at that bill whether it's m13
00:25:37.300or i can't remember what it is i don't remember you're not allowed to say anything about the
00:25:43.860fastest growing religion in canada you're not allowed to say anything if you're saying anything
00:25:49.480about it you're told that you're phobic or that you have a certain phobia but they can say anything
00:25:56.840they want about jews including from the river to the sea and they're more specific than that they
00:26:01.480call for actual murder genocide and death nobody says a word about it and here's the kicker
00:26:10.600if somebody like me says what i'm saying and justin trudeau hears me today he'll come out
00:26:16.840and say i'm making this up but it's exactly what he'd say well i've heard ari goldkind and
00:26:23.160anti-semitism has no place in our country and islamophobia is one of the most serious problems
00:26:29.800in our country they can never ever understand or say out loud where does the new anti-semitism
00:26:37.160come from does it come from a proud boy does it come from maga does it come from the ku klux klan
00:26:44.520this is not a difficult puzzle to solve it's not getting the caramel in the cadbury bar
00:26:50.360that's what is so pernicious and sinister about this is that you can never talk about this issue
00:26:56.200with one of these actually grotesque liberal mpps or the entire disgusting ndp always conflating
00:27:06.680anti-semitism and islamophobia when they're not to be conflated and when the numbers and
00:27:12.520And the birth rates in this country suggest that if you're Jewish, Houston, we have a problem.
00:27:18.120If you're not, you're in control of everything.
00:27:21.520And now they're in control of more than you're even allowed to talk about, which used to be, by the way, the pernicious stereotypical Jewish myth that Jews were kind of proud of.
00:27:34.180but we were wanting to make art, develop vaccines, do heart surgery, write piano concertos,
00:27:42.640advance the law in a good way for the underprivileged. Now, where are things from the
00:27:48.800group that is growing exponentially? It is to push people like me into the sea. And people
00:27:54.120keep saying, Andrew, and people who don't have my last name can't understand this. Oh, it'll never
00:27:58.580get to 1929 1933 crystal nut what do you think the next step is when they go to the jewish businesses
00:28:07.060do you think it's to peacefully protest they're emboldened and they're emblazoned this country
00:28:12.260is in trouble and we have been completely completely abandoned by a federal government
00:28:19.220that by the way andrew is obsessed with minority rights so long as that minority is the majority
00:28:27.620of their voters think that through just one final question because you mentioned m103 which was the
00:28:34.900anti-islamophobia motion and you know i was very critical of that uh going back and i people can
00:28:40.420read what i wrote at the time but a lot of the jewish groups and by that i mean you know the
00:28:46.580official jewish groups that proclaim to speak for jewish people and i don't always but i
00:28:51.060proclaim don't get me started proclaim we're standing in lockstep with a lot of the muslim
00:28:56.020groups when M103 was coming up. And I think a lot of them felt they had to, that they would be
00:29:00.520hypocritical to talk about antisemitism without condemning Islamophobia. But a lot of them had
00:29:05.300egg on their face the last two weeks. They've been wondering when that reciprocation is going
00:29:09.320to come, and it just hasn't. It's been some of the Muslim groups have gave very cursory
00:29:14.680condemnations. Many didn't even do that, and most of them have actually come out with outright
00:29:19.140endorsements of what Hamas has done in the weeks since. And I think a lot of very well-meaning
00:29:25.400jewish people kind of got hoodwinked during that islamophobia discussion all right so i understand
00:29:30.280the last part i'm actually not sure they're well-meaning i think they've committed suicide
00:29:35.080i think they've killed themselves i think they've killed others this was always suicidal to me you
00:29:40.600could see the writing on the wall 10 million miles away all you have to do is study demographics
00:29:47.880study what's happened in the west study what's happened in europe study what's happened in
00:29:53.800canada and you can understand even this rabbi that was killed that they say well they have no evidence
00:29:59.160it's a hate crime in detroit well what was it a love crime even that rabbi was instrumental in
00:30:05.160saying that the other side are her friends and if we've ever seen a wake-up call where people
00:30:11.320shot at raves in the negev desert innocent truly innocent people beheaded whatever you want to say
00:30:20.120carved up elderly younger if there was ever a line in the sand that if the two religions were
00:30:26.280going to come together as the religion of peace says it's a religion of peace and we're going to
00:30:31.640come together if there was ever an example where people would say there's just a bridge too far
00:30:37.720you would think shooting people driving down a road or at a music rave of all races and religions
00:30:43.800Americans, Brazilians, Asians, whatever it is, you would think they'd come out and say you know what
00:30:51.720we have to do something about it, I mean their side. Instead it's all this nonsensical woke
00:30:58.040garbage language, settler colonialism, this that and the other, it's all horse manure,
00:31:03.240it's garbage and as far as I'm concerned the Jews that have gone down this road who tend to
00:31:08.520be left or far left have all essentially assisted the rest of us in committing suicide because they
00:31:15.560all didn't listen to the words from 1945 which was never again and all they've done is allow it
00:31:23.400to begin again ari gold kind always a pleasure i know it's been very difficult for for you in the
00:31:29.880last few days but i'm glad you're speaking out the way you are sir thank you for coming on
00:31:33.720always good to talk to you, Andrew. All right. That was Ari Goldkind. And again, I mean, he was
00:31:38.920very, very explicit in what he said. And I think people should very much pay heed to that. We'll
00:31:43.420have more on this discussion tomorrow. And I will also just pivot very abruptly because there's no
00:31:50.040natural transition here to this story out of Ottawa. Now we had on the weekend at True North
00:31:56.260Nation, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation very generously and graciously sponsor us. And our
00:32:01.000good friend Chris Sims was there who is our favorite guest every Monday because well she's
00:32:05.680our only guest that's on every Monday but she'd be our favorite anyway Chris always good to talk
00:32:09.800to you thanks for coming on today thanks so much for having us on Andrew and I couldn't even find
00:32:15.040my original backdrop because it's still stuck in the car I had to grab this old one so yeah
00:32:20.120that was really being it was really great being at that conference well it was good to have you
00:32:24.360there so I we did a home renovation my wife and I back in the summer and you know we were trying
00:32:29.600to, you know, scrimp and save and, you know, spend as little as we had to while getting quality.
00:32:34.080I feel we got a steal looking at the government of Canada's reno budget. What was this? Eight
00:32:38.940million dollars for a barn at Rideau Hall. Yeah. Am I misreading this? Nope, you're not. It's
00:32:46.340really bad. So my partner in crime, Franco Terrazzano, our federal director, and our
00:32:52.420investigative journalist, Ryan Thorpe, they work away there in Mordor, also known as Ottawa, in our
00:32:58.080office. And they dug up these documents, Andrew, that showed taxpayers paid more than $8 million
00:33:04.320for what is being referred to as a barn on the grounds of Rideau Hall. So, Rideau Hall is where
00:33:11.600our Governor General lives. Right now, it's also actually where the Prime Minister of Canada lives
00:33:16.060too in the Rideau Cottage because 24 Sussex is so dilapidated. So, on those grounds, they built
00:33:23.400this storage facility, lack of a better term, that is somehow net zero. And if this is an
00:33:33.120indicator of how much net zero is going to cost us, as far as the government goes, folks just
00:33:39.560put a fork in it. We're done. We can't afford this. They blew $8 million on this thing. And
00:33:45.180so it's apparently to store vehicles and to wash vehicles and stuff. They started shovels in the
00:33:53.220ground, July of 2020, and they took about a year or so to finish it off. So just imagine, July 2020,
00:34:00.100this is when we were getting locked down, businesses were getting shut down, people
00:34:04.280losing their livelihoods, you know, everybody getting, a lot of people getting salary reductions
00:34:09.440and pay cuts. No, no, the NCC forks out $8 million for what is essentially a glorified garage.
00:34:17.680yeah and I mean we've been hearing for years now but all the issues with finding a place for the
00:34:25.600prime minister to live because you know 24 Sussex Drive is like this rat infested I'm not talking
00:34:30.720about the politicians that live there like literal like rats and the cobwebs and all of that and then
00:34:35.960you know so they have to stay at Rideau Cottage and but then they're also renovating and building
00:34:39.620like additions at Harrington Lake and then so then you hear about this it's like I you go to
00:34:44.420Northern Ontario or rural Alberta, and you'll find like four guys named Chuck that'll build a barn
00:34:49.200for 82 bucks and a two four in a weekend. Yeah, exactly. As Franco put it, you know,
00:34:55.340he's not a farmer, but our buddies in Brooks can sure as heck build you a barn or even a garage.
00:35:00.740They should have put it out to tender. Let your buddies in Brooks make a bid on this rather than
00:35:04.180like, you know, Ottawa's finest. Yes, exactly. And see, this is the problem. You know, people can
00:35:08.900hear $8 million and just kind of roll their eyes and let it glaze over. No, really think about what
00:35:14.400$8 million is in real money. If you look up what is often referred to as Ottawa's fanciest
00:35:20.920palatial mansion, it's on sale right now on a real estate website. It isn't even $8 million.
00:35:27.120And we're talking like marble, everything, jacuzzi tubs, like fancy stuff that we'd see
00:35:32.280on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous when you and I were kids. They blew this on a garage.
00:35:37.740So this is just indicative of what the National Capital Commission is capable of doing when it
00:35:42.660comes to blowing money. And for anybody who lives outside of the Ottawa bubble, you don't know what
00:35:48.120the NCC is. What it is is basically a glorified parks and rec department that is only in the
00:35:55.700Ottawa Gatineau little bubble there. It's usually responsible for things like Tulip Festival and
00:36:02.220cutting the weeds out of the Rideau Canal. But they're also the geniuses that blow this kind
00:36:07.860of money on a garage. They're also the ones who have built a bonus mansion up at Harrington Lake
00:36:13.620for who knows who to live in. These folks just waste money in spectacular fashion. And Andrew,
00:36:19.620these are the same people who are crying poor. They want a raise. They want more taxpayers'
00:36:25.440money. They want to spend more taxpayers' money on 24 Sussex. And so this is just a highlight.
00:36:31.220We have un-money right now. We are so deeply in debt. We're more than a trillion dollars in debt
00:36:37.380federally. If you and I started counting right now, Andrew, if we had like a barrel of loonies,
00:36:42.840it would take us 30,000 years to count to 1 trillion. That's some great data visualization
00:36:50.220there, Chris. But no, it's insane. And look, just to reiterate this point, $175 million is what the
00:36:56.440NCC wants to renovate, or no, what they spent to renovate and maintain properties. Sorry,
00:37:03.380135 for the renovation they want 175 to restore them uh so basically they want you know over 300
00:37:09.780million in the span of like 15 20 years uh to do this and i mean the ncc is basically it's like
00:37:16.900bureaucrats and interior decorators combined like both of whom want to blow more money than a project
00:37:22.520budget has it's like i never thought that was the most dangerous combination but i think it is
00:37:26.780interior decorator bureaucrats they have they've created a monster right because imagine having
00:37:32.280endless monies right no budget all those home reno shows that you watch right usually they'll
00:37:37.860stop about 10 minutes in and they'll have that moment where the couple's like oh can we really
00:37:42.940afford this imagine that part never happening like ever and then just double the cost on top
00:37:49.440of everything else because it's government that is what we are all paying for with the ncc like
00:37:55.180for the amount of money that they spend renovating harrington lake to give you an idea
00:37:59.600you could have bought uh avril lavigne and chad kroger's mansion you could have bought hallie
00:38:05.520barry's cottage up in the laurentians you could have bought there was a really famous hockey
00:38:10.160player you and i know about the same amount as of hockey nhl you could have bought his house
00:38:15.960his fancy mansion in london ontario all combined wait there's a hockey player who has a fancy
00:38:21.560mansion in london i live in london ontario i didn't know apparently there is yeah it's apparently
00:38:25.800the most expensive house in London, Ontario. And some NHL or dude owns it. I stopped following
00:38:31.000hockey in 1994. Well, Justin Bieber lives like, you know, 45 minutes from me. You could have used
00:38:35.600that one as a right. I don't know how much his house is worth though. Right. And so they spent
00:38:39.540more just renoing one cottage at Harrington Lake than all of those places I just described to you.
00:38:46.900You could buy them. Like you could buy them outright. So this is where we're highlighting
00:38:51.600this folks that we just can't afford this and this is the sort of mentality and thinking that
00:38:56.480is the reason why we are more than a trillion dollars in debt so the next time we're saying
00:39:01.760folks the government needs to tighten its belt don't let them get away with the idea of okay
00:39:06.960what do you want to cut first you know healthcare or education that's just nonsense how about you
00:39:11.680scrap the ncc when c11 uh goes into full force we'll do like some can con uh knock off of property
00:39:19.120brothers we'll call it property bureaucrats we'll uh just have the ncc go into like little suburban
00:39:24.260families homes and you know renovate them and uh when the person says well i don't know how we're
00:39:28.840going to afford that the uh ncc people will be like what do you what i'm sorry i've never heard
00:39:33.740those words before what do you mean i need my universal translator i actually would watch that
00:39:37.980show so especially if you should produce it you should do your own like little uh spoof comedy
00:39:43.960of like you know the ncc version of a home reno show i i'll i'll chip in a couple hundred bucks
00:39:48.540Could you imagine just, like, Franco in, like, a tool belt with, like, a level and, like, a hammer just doing stuff?
00:39:55.240Yeah, I want Franco to do the whole, like, Holmes on Holmes, you know, thing with the, you know, the overalls and the tool belt.
00:40:01.860And then you'll be in there with your hard hat directing it along.
00:40:05.120We can get, you know, Scott Hennig to, you know, go in there with the palettes for the paint and just everyone gets to pick it up.