00:04:52.240So before we get into the details and this just complete outrage that we're seeing in correctional facilities,
00:04:59.040tell our audience a little bit about what started you on this path of advocating for women's rights inside our prisons.
00:05:06.840So I actually am a former federal prisoner myself.
00:05:10.720I did time in provincial and federal jail.
00:05:14.780And when I got out, I originally started speaking on panels for the Elizabeth Fry Society in regards to strip searching and segregation.
00:05:23.400And then I went to their national conference in Ottawa in 2019, and they were passing the inclusion policy.
00:05:30.940And one of the women that I was in jail with got up and talked about her experience of being incarcerated with men who identified as women.
00:05:39.960She was groomed and sexually harassed.
00:05:43.420And the staff at the Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies and the Elizabeth Fry Societies said,
00:05:50.460you don't need a vagina to be a woman, and I'm concerned about the transphobia in the room.
00:05:55.660And she actually left the stage crying and didn't have any support.
00:05:59.880And it was at that moment that I realized somebody had to stand up and support these women that were in prison and recently released from prison.
00:07:22.820So the only women's organizations that stand up and speak out about this are like grassroots organizations.
00:07:29.380So like you have COSBAR, you have WDI, Alberta RADFEMS, Gender Dissent, no organization that receives funding from the government or say like the United Way or other places like that.
00:07:46.940None of them are speaking up about this issue because if they do, then they'll no longer get their funding.
00:07:53.200So they just go along with the current narrative.
00:07:57.880And we talked about this a little bit before the interview on the show.
00:08:01.820It's the origin of this, the idea that a man who just claims that he's a woman can get access to a women's prison.
00:08:10.500Did this all really kick off after Justin Trudeau was at that town hall speaking to a transgender person after he said that he would look into the issue?
00:08:19.200Because a day after that, then the Correctional Services Canada mandate was changed.
00:08:26.040I mean, is this really the origin of all this?
00:08:29.960So I actually submitted an access to information request and we received it, but it was all redacted.
00:08:37.940So then we had to fight with the office to get it unredacted.
00:08:42.200And so they're the commissioner's briefing notes on gender identity or expression.
00:08:49.460And it states right in those briefing notes about Justin Trudeau and the town hall meeting and meeting to reassess the policy that they have.
00:09:03.180Now, in this 2022 Commissioner's Directive on Gender Diverse Offenders, it states that these transfers are going to be assessed on a case-by-case basis.
00:09:15.440And it's going to go through some sort of assessment for decision that includes a security check.
00:09:21.080Now, if that's the case, I'm just wondering how it's possible that someone like some of these people who are violent, dangerous pedophiles end up passing these security checks and end up in prisons.
00:09:34.440If they're going on this case-by-case basis, how do people like this, how do men like this end up in these women's facilities?
00:09:41.300Because they have advocates and organizations supporting their transfers.
00:09:48.720So the Elizabeth Fry Society actually puts on workshops teaching their staff how to get these men in women's prisons.
00:09:56.940But there's also like Morgane, Auger, and BC that fight and teach them how to advocate for themselves, fill out the paperwork, get transferred into women's prisons.
00:10:09.040Morgane, Auger, actually brags about being the one that helped Michael Williams get into the woman's prison.
00:10:18.980For people that don't know who Michael Williams is, he actually murdered a 13-year-old indigenous girl in Edmonton.
00:10:28.740And his nickname's Pyro because he likes fire and they tried to light her on fire.
00:10:35.040Morgane helped him get into Frasier Valley Institution for Women in BC.
00:10:43.740You just explained an outrageous case.
00:10:46.520Obviously, you're really close to this issue.
00:10:49.740Can you tell us a little bit about more some of these horror stories, some of these men who are totally dangerous, totally violent,
00:10:56.980and should have no interaction with women at all that are in these women's facilities?
00:11:00.980Yeah, so there's actually one that goes by Catherine Lynn now.
00:11:06.780He's been in for at least 25 years in the men's prison.
00:11:12.180He actually slit the throat of a woman who didn't want to see him, and he raped her dead body.
00:11:21.400He is in Grand Valley Institution for Women.
00:11:25.720There's also Frederick Radcliffe, who goes by Carissa, and he has several charges against young teenage girls sexually assaulting them.
00:11:39.780There's Matthew Harkes, who's a prolific serial pedophile, who has numerous, like, tons of victims, lots of charges, likes four- and five-year-old girls.
00:11:52.880But actually, when he's in the women's prisons, he's like the number one predator because he grooms, sexually harasses, and sexually assaults the women inside.
00:12:01.660He targets women who are developmentally delayed or who are childlike in appearance.
00:12:08.360There's also Tara DeSouza, who actually molested a three-month-old baby and caused so much damage the baby had to have reconstructive surgery.
00:12:21.860With the report that CSC put out last year, it states that 94% of these men committed their offenses as their biological sex.
00:12:35.700So this means that nearly 100% of these men who identify as women committed their crimes living as men.
00:12:43.960It also shows that 44% are in for sex crimes, and that 86% are in for violent crimes or indeterminate sentences, which mean they're more than likely dangerous offenders.
00:12:57.380And a lot of them do have that dangerous offender status.
00:13:05.260One of the things that you talked about at the Rebel News live event, which we briefly had a discussion over the weekend at, was that women who are in these prisons, who are forced to interact with these dangerous, violent males, are unable to speak up and to raise concerns about this.
00:13:26.540Talk a little bit more about that, because that part to me really, really was shocking, that these female inmates can't make an issue out of the fact that they have to live amongst these violent, dangerous men.
00:13:40.900Yeah, so as soon as we're transferred in, we're told that we're to accept these men and that we're not to call them men and that we must use she, her pronouns.
00:13:53.040So we're groomed right from the beginning to participate in these delusions.
00:14:00.240But there is a case where Matthew Harkes actually sexually assaulted an Indigenous woman in the bathroom.
00:14:07.800And the women who lived in the house with Harkes locked him out of the house and wouldn't let him in the house, because in prison we live in cottages.
00:14:15.480We don't live in, well, on medium compound, that is.
00:15:10.620Well, one of the things that I find shocking about this, and I have to admit that it wasn't an issue I was really paying attention to or knew enough about,
00:15:19.840is the fact that in this research, other countries that have had this same thing going on,
00:15:25.660it's been a major story in Scotland when a double rapist, Isla Bryson is the name that this guy was going by,
00:16:16.120If CBC or CTV were to actually pick up the stories and report on it, then there might be more outrage.
00:16:24.340But I haven't had any success with them reporting on any of this, even with the documents from the government.
00:16:31.420I had a news agency report on one of my protests.
00:16:35.700So I put on 21 protests across Canada, even had a National Day of Action where we had protests in like eight different places in Canada at the same time.
00:16:45.840And I believe it was my second protest.
00:16:48.260So back in 2021, I had a news agency report on my protest, and they put an article out.
00:16:55.460And within days, it was like scrubbed from the web because trans activists were calling and complaining so much that they pulled the article.
00:17:08.780Yeah, well, it almost seems as though if the legacy media aren't talking about the issue, then they're either not complicit necessarily, but they don't care about these women who are forced to live beside violent, dangerous male prisoners.
00:17:23.920I really don't understand why they would be so silent on this issue.
00:17:28.160Um, I believe there's a lot of bullying going on, like you're on Twitter, I'm on Twitter, we see how trans activists are.
00:17:38.540Um, and there is, there's a lot of bullying that goes on, like they'll dox them, they'll try to get them fired, they'll try to get their funding pulled.
00:17:48.260Um, and honestly, we need someone that's going to have enough courage to stand up and say, I don't care if you dox me.
00:17:57.160I don't care if you try to get me fired, I'm going to do the right thing here and get this information out to the public.
00:18:03.880Um, I've been in contact with CBC and CTV, um, journalists before, and they've wanted to write a story, but it gets axed by their editor.
00:18:13.820Their editor won't let them print the story.
00:18:17.860I mean, that's a scandal in itself almost, you know, these, these policies are, are, they're federal policies, right?
00:18:24.500They, when, when Justin Trudeau says he's going to look into the issue the next day, Correctional Services Canada changes their, their directive.
00:18:32.360And then there's all of these different layers that come into place over the years that have caused this problem.
00:18:37.340Um, I'm guessing that there is some sort of federal legislative solution to this.
00:18:42.980Now, the question I have for you is, have you been in contact with any conservative politicians or, or any politicians who seem willing to actually, uh, a listen to you and, and, and what you're, and what you're advocating for and, and be a promise to commit to ending this absurd practice.
00:19:00.340Um, so back in, I want to say 2021, I sent out letters to, I believe every single MP and I got a few callbacks.
00:19:15.820Um, I had a meeting with like one liberal MP and they kind of hijacked the meeting and wanted to use me, um, for their, um, they wanted to change the prostitution laws in Canada.
00:19:29.060Um, so the meeting wasn't about my issues.
00:19:33.260They were trying to hijack it and get me on board for their, their thing.
00:19:38.420I've spoken to some MPs that are conservative, but it doesn't seem like they really wanted to put their neck on the line for this.
00:19:46.320They wanted me to do most of the work and obviously for free.
00:19:50.180And it's like, I'm a mom and I work and I'm not in a financial position to be like doing all of this work on my own.
00:20:00.260Like, that's why I'm reaching out to them.
00:20:03.500Um, the only party in Canada that actually even put out a statement on this was, uh, the PPC.
00:20:13.160And again, they don't even have a seat, but they acknowledged it and put a statement out on it.
00:20:20.820I do notice more and more now, especially in Alberta, they're really talking about it and trying to pass policies.
00:20:28.440Um, so I'm hoping that the times have changed and there's more people with courage to speak up, say something, do something.
00:20:38.180Um, yeah, well, I feel like so much of where, where we're at in this country is a result of a lack of courage from people who are actually elected to speak up on these issues and speak up for constituents.
00:20:50.200Um, you know, thank you so much for coming on Heather, before I let you go, can you tell us and tell the audience where Canadians can learn more about you, where they can follow you on social media and the work that you're doing with your organization?
00:21:03.400Yeah, so they can follow me on Twitter, uh, Heather Mason.
00:21:11.200I do have a fundraiser page pinned to the top of my Twitter account where they can donate to me to help with like travel and accommodations and buying signs and traveling all over Canada to protest.
00:21:25.920That's Canadian women's sex space, right?
00:21:27.700So we have members all across Canada, we meet up, we do all sorts of fun activities together, we write letters, we support each other, and we fight not only on the prisons, but, you know, washrooms, change rooms, sports, crime stats, children, there's so much to fight.
00:21:46.000Um, so you can contact us and be put in touch with women in your area.