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Security Expert Warns of Growing Threat to Canada’s Jewish Community

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00:00:00 One of Canada's top security experts says the shooting at a synagogue in Ontario
00:00:10 has the hallmarks of a targeted terrorist attack.
00:00:14 Two people, including a police officer, were hit by gunfire Sunday night at the Sons of
00:00:19 Jacob Orthodox Synagogue.
00:00:22 The attacker was armed with a shotgun.
00:00:25 Two police officers were involved in the takedown of the attacker.
00:00:29 a suspected attacker, was shot. And as Ross McLean tells us, the attack started at sunset
00:00:36 when several dozen congregants were in prayer on Yom Kippur. Our guest today is Ross McLean,
00:00:43 security expert and bodyguard to the billionaires. Welcome, Ross.
00:00:47 Yeah, good to be with you, Mark, but a rather sad subject to have to be joining you with.
00:00:51 It is. And, you know, sadly, we've gone through this a number of times. And as you can well
00:00:58 appreciate members of the Jewish community are a combination of terrified, outraged, and 1.00
00:01:06 questioning their own future in this country. Many of them have left, as a matter of fact, 1.00
00:01:11 but let's talk about what this incident entailed. Can you tell us the latest?
00:01:18 Well, first of all, I look at this in context, right? I'm going to talk to you about this. I
00:01:23 was a police officer. I did deal with some terrorism when I was back in the job there,
00:01:28 But mostly I've dealt with it in private security, protecting the rich and famous, protecting large worldwide corporations and dealing with these problems.
00:01:36 And this comes within the context of three years of anti-Semitic hate that has raged across Canada, mostly in Toronto and in Montreal.
00:01:45 We have seen shootings. We have seen arsons.
00:01:49 we have seen all all all manner of problems going on with it with a to my to my take a minimal police
00:01:56 neutral response to it they like to say i totally disagree with the police's tact on it so in the
00:02:03 wake of that we find out about this shooting taking place in the synagogue in belleville
00:02:09 you know a lesser target an easier target to hit and it takes place at exactly sundown on sunday
00:02:16 which marks the start of Yom Kippur, which is the holiest day in the Jewish calendar. 0.59
00:02:23 So that certainly has the marking of someone who was premeditating the thought on what they were doing. 0.61
00:02:28 It appears that a shotgun was used, blasted into, it looks like, these stained glass windows on the side,
00:02:36 giving a spread of about 20, 25 shots that hit this stained glass window.
00:02:42 And here's where it starts to get confusing.
00:02:46 Going on from there, the person encounters one police officer, then another police officer,
00:02:53 and we find the person virtually almost dead on the pavement, but now is supposedly still on life
00:02:59 support in the hospital. And we're getting information out in dribs and drabs about the
00:03:04 other parts that are in between. I have my thoughts on what happened, but that's more or
00:03:10 the details that we have where the SIU is investigating the special investigations unit
00:03:15 when we hear of incidents like this we all come to expect Muslim names of suspects but in this
00:03:24 case it is a Sean Ward 29 year old from Quinty West which is not far from Belleville do we know
00:03:31 anything more about this individual I'm getting some information on on background but it's not
00:03:37 really something to be able to share on air at this particular point about it, but we do have
00:03:44 a suspect named, which is unusual that they get that out, but they're not able to tell us the
00:03:50 other information where he was, where the body was found. They're not actually confirming that
00:03:55 the synagogue window was shot, even though there's pictures of it. So they're really giving us dribs
00:04:00 and drabs on the information for that, Mark. Yeah, there's a lot of shots fired. My understanding is
00:04:06 20 to 30 maybe you have a different number and we certainly see visually we have a vehicle riddled
00:04:13 with gunshots the police tell us that neighboring residences were hit it must have been a hell of
00:04:22 a scene at that time when uh well here here's what it looks like to me right this is my estimation
00:04:30 looking at the evidence i don't have this from the source i'm just taking the parts of the puzzle
00:04:35 and trying to fill in what I would see coming up in the middle of it.
00:04:39 It looks to me like it started off with a shotgun blast from the side of the road into the windows of this synagogue. 0.62
00:04:47 Fortunately, those shots, if they would have hit, would have been higher than head level, I believe.
00:04:51 So not hitting the 20 or 30 or so Orthodox Jews who were inside starting their service for Yom Kippur.
00:05:01 Now, on the scene was a police officer who was either posted there as a precaution or working there in a pay duty.
00:05:08 It's not clear.
00:05:10 I'm going to take it that he was there posted by the Belleville police, being more heads up on this.
00:05:15 He clearly would have heard that gunshot.
00:05:17 It's loud.
00:05:18 Boom.
00:05:19 He would have gone out to investigate it and found himself confronting this person with the shotgun.
00:05:26 My understanding is the officer took a shot to the neck, birdshot or something we don't know,
00:05:32 and it's quite serious, but apparently, you know, God willing, he's going to get through it.
00:05:36 Let's pray for him that he does.
00:05:38 The officer was able to return some fire, apparently.
00:05:42 And at that same time, you could hear in the sirens from other videos that were put up,
00:05:46 other police cars were rolling in.
00:05:50 What it looks like to me is a secondary police officer who arrived on scene,
00:05:54 came as this battle was taking place more or less in front of the synagogue he was armed it looks
00:06:03 like this is my guesstimation based on the bullets i'm seeing what i'm seeing with the police issued
00:06:08 carbine assault rifle which was specifically distributed to police to help deal with terrorism
00:06:14 so it looks like he exited his vehicle had those had the suspect in sight shot him appears to me
00:06:22 numerous shots. You can see on the truck in the background of where the body was strafed with
00:06:28 bullets that looked like they came from a carbine rifle. They subdued him, got the help in, got
00:06:36 everybody off to the hospital. That looks to me like what happened, Mark. So good on the police
00:06:43 that they're running towards danger, first of all. I don't think people really appreciate that
00:06:47 until you're the damn one in danger, Mark, and you need someone running towards you to help you. 0.97
00:06:52 So good on them for doing it. 0.99
00:06:54 We'll have to wait to see where this investigation leads farther. 1.00
00:06:58 Part of my concern is, once again, as a security guy, if I'm advising Jews and synagogues, 1.00
00:07:04 I'd be telling them if this is someone who's outside the normal realm, you know, it's an 1.00
00:07:09 Anglo-sounding sort of name, who is it?
00:07:12 I'd start being concerned about a social contagion that this anti-Semitism is growing and growing
00:07:18 and attaching itself to other people right creating more danger for the jewish community
00:07:24 that's what i would be looking at long distance on my radar i'm just telling you that's where
00:07:28 i'd be going as a security guy i'm not saying that's what happened but that's what i'd be
00:07:33 looking at mark yeah i'm i'm wondering about the name of that individual myself i mean and i i
00:07:42 think there'll be more coming out on it but i i'm not at liberty to liberty to discuss you're
00:07:46 hearing things though right yeah about this individual yeah you know it's just becoming such
00:07:55 uh a regular thing that i hope our eyes don't simply glaze over every time there's
00:08:01 a shooting or an attack of this kind it did get some coverage um international media i think abc
00:08:08 news was on it before it seems uh media in canada was on it which is a little odd you would think
00:08:20 that you know with all the media here they would be on it right from the get-go and yet we got beat
00:08:28 our media in canada the legacy media got beat on it so it just makes you wonder really about
00:08:35 whether or not some of them would sooner not cover stories like this you know given that they seem
00:08:41 so intent on covering for the government and that's getting labeled here in much of the online
00:08:48 discourse that i have seen and i realize that x is in certain ways still the wild west but
00:08:54 there's a lot of outrage online particularly by members of the jewish community who say this is
00:09:00 this is horrible and that our politicians now are putting vote numbers ahead of what they should be
00:09:08 doing protecting the public in other words they are pandering to voting in certain ethnic groups
00:09:15 and if that means turning a blind eye or underplaying the threats made against uh
00:09:22 jews then so be it do you have any thoughts about that yeah i've actually got some pretty
00:09:29 pretty tough thoughts on that mark i'm not sure if you'll be able to play this in the interview
00:09:33 when i go into it here but the police just concluded their presser and they do this
00:09:38 typical saying right at the end oh and it goes without saying we are against anti-semitism
00:09:45 hate of any kind violence of any kind and bothering to anybody wherever they are and we will be
00:09:51 considering more protection for people in their places of worship yeah so let me tell you what
00:09:57 that is that is watering down the anti-semitic problem period that's what that is they want to
00:10:05 mix it in with every other type of hate now i'll just tell you this and any of your listeners who
00:10:09 are good at getting stuff done they know the first thing you have to do to solve a problem mark
00:10:14 is define the problem and define it specifically this problem is not generalized hate of people
00:10:20 going after places of worship everywhere this no this is anti-semitic attacks on jews genocidal
00:10:28 attacks on jews that is being protested every day in the streets with the highest number of hate
00:10:34 crimes against the smallest minority population in our country of jews and it's consisted of
00:10:40 shootings beatings arsons uh protests threats intimidations it's over the top but the government
00:10:50 thing just like their land acknowledgement thing is they want to water it down they want to water
00:10:56 down this anti-semitic attack and i'm telling you that's that's a plan to not be successful at it
00:11:03 and they say it every time what is wrong with saying we're going to protect the jews here the
00:11:08 jews are under attack their synagogues are under attack and we are going to use all the resources
00:11:14 as we have to protect the Jewish community
00:11:17 for anybody who goes near them.
00:11:19 They won't say it that way though.
00:11:20 So that is my concern with that, Mark.
00:11:23 Well, there was an officer at the scene of the attack
00:11:27 and you hate to wonder what would have happened
00:11:30 in terms of just casualty list
00:11:33 if that individual had not been there.
00:11:35 So have you heard about whether or not
00:11:38 there had been threats made against this synagogue
00:11:40 ahead of time?
00:11:41 why there was a police officer or multiple police officers at the scene when the attack took place
00:11:49 i'm not aware of any specific threats against it i was i've been made aware there was a
00:11:54 trespass to property or sort of a problem about a week ago with somebody no idea if that's related
00:11:59 to it uh but as i as i say this is uh this is something that we've all seen coming right so
00:12:09 So it's no surprise.
00:12:11 As I said, why do you think the police were issued with those carbine rifles before?
00:12:15 Because we knew terrorism was coming, right?
00:12:17 That's why they issued it.
00:12:18 That's why they trained them on it.
00:12:20 Thank God the officers here had the training and the wherewithal to run towards it and use it.
00:12:25 But listen, Mark, this is just another saying I say on the other side of the coin,
00:12:30 not the law enforcement side, on the private side,
00:12:32 but police should be saying it as well too.
00:12:34 preventing this is way more important than responding to this right when you're responding
00:12:41 to someone actively shooting at a house of worship your problem has already happened you're
00:12:46 responding how about we get our intel a little bit better how about we start making a red line
00:12:51 that says anybody who crosses the line against the jewish community in this way you're immediately
00:12:56 going to be dealt with immediately harshly as much as we can do based within the law
00:13:01 and that helps to put a
00:13:03 that helps to put a lid on things but
00:13:05 we're not seeing that
00:13:06 you know there's another event coming up tonight
00:13:09 at the Meridian Hotel
00:13:11 the Yom Kippur event that's going to be
00:13:14 so it's a religious service
00:13:15 with religious Jews there and there's
00:13:17 going to be protests at it tonight in Toronto
00:13:19 let's see what happens
00:13:22 there because it is a criminal code
00:13:23 offence to interfere with the religious
00:13:25 service, criminal code
00:13:27 but is it going to be allowed to go on
00:13:29 and be interfered with in intimidation, or is it going to be dealt with strongly?
00:13:34 We'll have to wait to see for that.
00:13:36 I think I know what's going to happen.
00:13:38 Yeah, I mean, this is a case where those who hate Israel confuse that hatred
00:13:44 with the nation of Israel, with the religion of Judaism.
00:13:48 You know what I mean?
00:13:50 It just, with those who despise Jews, that seems to be an issue with them.
00:13:59 you know they they don't see they don't distinguish one from the other you know anyway how do people
00:14:06 follow you online and they can catch me over on my youtube channel mclean chronicles i cover a
00:14:12 variety of content on there from looking after yourself to explaining what's going on in the
00:14:17 world um some of the geopolitics it's important people people know and keep on top of what's
00:14:23 going on and be informed that way you can know when you're being taken advantage of mark yeah
00:14:28 we appreciate the great work that you do and thank you for coming on the show thanks for having me
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