Juno News - December 04, 2021


Senator seeks ban on imports from Xinjiang, China


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00:00:00.000 You're tuned in to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:00:11.200 Welcome back to The Andrew Lawton Show.
00:00:13.740 I mentioned, of course, the World Health Organization
00:00:16.060 deciding to capitulate to China by skipping over the letter
00:00:20.080 Xi in the Greek alphabet when naming variants.
00:00:24.120 Well, we also had this funny story where the Simpsons
00:00:27.780 had an episode in which the Simpsons family went to Beijing
00:00:30.800 and they visited Tiananmen Square and saw,
00:00:33.620 as you can see on the screen there,
00:00:35.300 a sign that said nothing at all happened on that site in 1989.
00:00:41.800 And this episode conspicuously was absent
00:00:44.560 from the offerings on Disney Plus in Hong Kong.
00:00:48.760 So The Simpsons was announced,
00:00:50.280 and if you were skipping through all the episodes
00:00:52.080 from whatever season it was in 2005,
00:00:54.720 you'd say, oh, wow, I wonder what happens next.
00:00:56.480 I think it's that one where they go to China
00:00:57.960 and then the episode wouldn't be there.
00:01:01.100 And Disney Plus has decided that appeasing China
00:01:03.900 is more important than actually offering
00:01:06.620 the full slate of episodes from The Simpsons.
00:01:09.680 So I noted on Twitter that, you know,
00:01:11.980 what are the letters Xi and The Simpsons have in common?
00:01:15.260 Both have been censored to appease Chairman Xi
00:01:19.480 and the Chinese Politburo.
00:01:21.280 Now, I should say I'm not one of these
00:01:22.860 totally bi-Canadian people.
00:01:25.000 I think buying Canadian is great,
00:01:26.520 but what I mean by that is that I'm sympathetic
00:01:28.880 that not everyone can afford to buy Canadian-made things.
00:01:32.400 And I also realized that there are a lot of products
00:01:34.240 that simply aren't made in Canada
00:01:36.440 because we are, in general, an import economy
00:01:39.960 on a lot of the trinkets and gadgets
00:01:41.580 that people like to buy, that consumers like to buy.
00:01:45.140 But there's a difference between
00:01:46.980 not buying Canadian-made things
00:01:49.640 and buying Chinese-made things.
00:01:51.960 There are, you know, depending on who you ask,
00:01:53.460 194 other countries you could choose from.
00:01:56.700 So this is why I found it interesting to spotlight
00:01:59.180 this bill that was put forward in the Senate
00:02:01.520 by Senator Leo Houssakos, Bill C-204.
00:02:05.040 Now, this is not looking at just Chinese-made products.
00:02:08.080 It's identifying a problem that's very specific,
00:02:10.880 which is products in China made by forced labor,
00:02:14.180 specifically in the Xinjiang region,
00:02:16.680 where the genocide against the Uyghur Muslims
00:02:19.540 has taken place.
00:02:21.220 And what Senator Houssakos has proposed
00:02:23.120 is a bill that would ban the import
00:02:25.800 of anything made in this region.
00:02:28.200 Anything, regardless of whether it was made
00:02:30.500 by slave labor or not.
00:02:32.260 If it was from Xinjiang,
00:02:33.660 you cannot import it to Canada.
00:02:36.060 Now, it's important to note,
00:02:37.000 we do have a prohibition on products
00:02:39.300 made by forced labor,
00:02:40.780 but that is not something that it seems like
00:02:44.960 we've had tremendous success enforcing.
00:02:47.800 At least that's what all the reports
00:02:48.940 about CBSA's track record on this.
00:02:50.880 This has been a huge issue
00:02:52.260 and I want to talk about it with the Senator
00:02:53.660 who introduced this bill to bar all imports
00:02:56.640 from China's Xinjiang region,
00:02:58.980 Conservative Senator Leo Houssakos,
00:03:00.860 who joins me now.
00:03:01.940 Senator, good to talk to you again.
00:03:03.160 Thanks for coming on today.
00:03:04.700 Thank you for having me on.
00:03:06.180 Now, we already have, as I understand it,
00:03:08.680 a specific prohibition on goods
00:03:10.960 made with forced labor,
00:03:12.460 which is obviously one of the big challenges
00:03:15.140 in that region, in particular in China.
00:03:17.560 Why is this measure needed
00:03:19.480 on top of that, in your view?
00:03:21.360 Well, we do currently,
00:03:22.680 as you rightfully point out,
00:03:24.240 we do have in the law books
00:03:25.420 a lot of deal with this kind of issue
00:03:27.540 with slave labor.
00:03:28.520 Unfortunately, it hasn't worked.
00:03:30.460 We've seen over more than a year
00:03:32.160 now that the bill has been in the books
00:03:33.640 that CBSA and Customs Canada
00:03:35.820 has had a very hard time
00:03:37.640 making determinations
00:03:38.660 of what products are coming in
00:03:40.100 that have been manufactured
00:03:41.420 using slave labor.
00:03:43.920 And I think it's time
00:03:45.560 that Canada stops with the tokenisms.
00:03:47.760 And I think it's time
00:03:48.600 that the Trudeau government
00:03:49.500 gets its head out of the sand.
00:03:51.400 And we take steps and measures
00:03:53.300 against China for a variety of reasons.
00:03:55.780 China, as we know right now,
00:03:56.940 is the most egregious violator
00:03:58.680 of human rights around the world.
00:04:01.140 We know for a fact
00:04:02.640 that they have absolutely no respect
00:04:04.260 for human rights, democracy, freedom.
00:04:06.140 They're trampling on that freedom in Hong Kong.
00:04:09.000 They have no respect
00:04:09.820 for international rule of law.
00:04:11.420 We saw that how willingly they are
00:04:13.120 to engage in hostage diplomacy.
00:04:16.260 And ultimately, I want to reiterate
00:04:17.560 for the viewers
00:04:18.360 that at the end of the day,
00:04:20.040 the House of Commons
00:04:21.000 passed a motion
00:04:22.280 calling what's happening
00:04:23.480 to the Uyghur people
00:04:24.380 in Shanjing as a genocide.
00:04:26.320 The Senate of Canada
00:04:27.160 passed a motion
00:04:28.540 calling on the Trudeau government
00:04:29.880 to implement Magnitsky sanctions
00:04:32.100 against officials
00:04:33.100 in the Beijing regime.
00:04:35.280 And Trudeau continues
00:04:36.600 to refuse and drag his feet.
00:04:38.320 So I think S4,
00:04:40.420 which is the number
00:04:41.440 of my bill in the Senate,
00:04:43.060 is a bill that amends
00:04:44.500 the tariff act.
00:04:46.460 It makes it all encompassing.
00:04:48.320 Any product that's manufactured
00:04:50.060 or comes into Canada
00:04:51.640 through Shanjing
00:04:52.520 is going to be not acceptable,
00:04:55.280 will be turned around.
00:04:56.200 And it will be
00:04:56.940 an unequivocal message
00:04:58.240 that genocide and slave labour
00:05:00.740 will not be tolerated
00:05:02.360 by the Canadian people
00:05:03.620 and the Canadian government.
00:05:05.380 One of the challenges here,
00:05:07.000 and I'm sympathetic to companies
00:05:09.060 that want to do the right thing
00:05:10.600 but can't be entirely aware
00:05:12.880 of every stage
00:05:13.820 of their supply chain
00:05:14.820 when you get to subcontractors
00:05:16.360 and sub-subcontractors
00:05:17.780 and all of that.
00:05:18.840 So it strikes me
00:05:19.620 that your approach
00:05:20.420 would make it a lot easier
00:05:22.240 for it to be enforced,
00:05:23.340 both by CBSA,
00:05:24.500 but also for companies
00:05:26.180 that are doing business
00:05:27.020 with this part of the world.
00:05:28.640 100%.
00:05:29.240 Every single corporation
00:05:30.700 right now
00:05:31.280 that's doing business
00:05:32.200 in Shanjing,
00:05:33.220 they know full well
00:05:34.520 what's going on
00:05:35.560 to the Uyghur minority
00:05:36.600 in that region.
00:05:38.120 There's a genocide going on.
00:05:41.260 The Beijing regime
00:05:42.760 is completely intolerant
00:05:44.320 of all religious groups
00:05:45.840 in China.
00:05:47.600 And every group
00:05:48.900 and any corporation
00:05:50.100 that does business there,
00:05:51.180 we know full well
00:05:51.840 they're doing business
00:05:52.560 because they're putting profits
00:05:53.860 ahead of human rights.
00:05:55.060 And I've said this before
00:05:56.240 and I'll say it again.
00:05:57.420 There is nothing more fundamental
00:05:58.960 to Canadians
00:05:59.660 than democracy, freedom
00:06:01.580 and defense of human rights.
00:06:03.540 That's who we are.
00:06:04.460 That's our identity.
00:06:05.760 Every single Canadian
00:06:06.700 that's been drawn
00:06:07.500 to this country,
00:06:08.860 immigrants
00:06:09.180 and children of immigrants
00:06:10.420 and we are all here
00:06:12.380 either through immigration
00:06:13.520 or our children of immigrants,
00:06:16.600 we've come here
00:06:17.360 because of our values,
00:06:18.520 because of freedom,
00:06:19.620 because of our democracy,
00:06:20.720 because of human rights.
00:06:21.680 And if Canadians right now
00:06:23.320 aren't willing to defend them
00:06:24.580 in exchange for a few
00:06:26.020 cheaper products
00:06:26.820 or because some corporations
00:06:28.320 want to bypass
00:06:29.620 Canadian labor standards,
00:06:31.660 Canadian environmental standards,
00:06:33.700 intellectual property standards,
00:06:35.620 in order to make profits,
00:06:37.280 we should make it clear
00:06:38.220 that the day of reckoning
00:06:39.980 for China is now
00:06:41.120 and that we will not tolerate it.
00:06:43.020 And if China wants
00:06:43.780 to continue to benefit
00:06:44.860 from our wealthy
00:06:46.080 middle-class market,
00:06:47.340 they have to align themselves
00:06:49.180 to our rules,
00:06:50.300 our regulations
00:06:51.060 and our values.
00:06:53.320 Conservatives have always been
00:06:54.640 the party of free trade
00:06:56.020 and I know that free trade
00:06:57.360 in its truest sense
00:06:58.280 requires free actors
00:06:59.960 on both sides
00:07:00.960 of the transaction
00:07:01.720 but there are products
00:07:03.780 being made in China
00:07:05.040 that are not the products
00:07:06.380 of slave labor.
00:07:07.920 So why should those products
00:07:09.480 be closed off
00:07:10.240 to the Canadian market
00:07:11.200 if that's where a company
00:07:12.880 is getting its supplies from?
00:07:14.800 Well, my bill is
00:07:15.780 particularly zeroing in
00:07:17.660 on Xinjiang
00:07:18.280 because we know
00:07:19.080 there's a genocide
00:07:19.840 going on over there
00:07:21.080 but I've always said
00:07:22.380 in the past
00:07:22.880 we need to re-evaluate
00:07:24.000 all our trade relationship
00:07:25.300 with China
00:07:25.820 because at the end of the day
00:07:27.060 we see how they trample
00:07:28.540 on democracy in Hong Kong.
00:07:30.220 We see how they're belligerent
00:07:31.600 towards our friend
00:07:32.320 and ally in India,
00:07:34.140 how they're trampling
00:07:35.120 upon freedom in Taiwan.
00:07:38.080 It's a regime right now
00:07:39.440 that has absolutely shown
00:07:40.880 time and time again
00:07:42.000 their only value
00:07:43.640 is pursuit of profit
00:07:44.860 and with complete disregard
00:07:47.340 to the values of freedom
00:07:48.880 and human rights.
00:07:50.180 So I think again
00:07:51.760 the democratic world
00:07:53.260 and democracy funny enough
00:07:54.660 Andrew has never been
00:07:55.700 in a more precarious position
00:07:57.560 than it is in 2021
00:07:58.780 and in a lot of G7
00:08:01.160 and G20 countries
00:08:02.240 we take for granted
00:08:03.400 the fact that we have
00:08:04.800 certain freedoms
00:08:05.500 that come along
00:08:06.660 with our capitalist system
00:08:07.840 but capitalism
00:08:08.520 only genuinely works
00:08:10.120 when it's accompanied
00:08:10.780 by free enterprise
00:08:12.060 and you're absolutely right
00:08:13.780 conservatives were free traders
00:08:15.100 and I'm a free trader
00:08:16.060 but free trade has to be done
00:08:17.740 with a partner
00:08:18.620 where you have common values
00:08:19.940 you're aligned
00:08:20.900 in terms of your judicial system
00:08:22.580 your trading laws
00:08:25.100 your human rights approach
00:08:27.140 to human rights
00:08:27.860 labour laws
00:08:29.440 like I said earlier
00:08:30.220 environmental laws
00:08:31.200 intellectual property protection
00:08:33.060 these are all things
00:08:34.060 that the Chinese
00:08:35.340 communist regime disregards.
00:08:37.740 I know in the United States
00:08:39.540 there is an approach
00:08:40.520 where you have a reverse onus
00:08:42.160 in that if you can prove
00:08:43.380 that the products
00:08:44.520 you're importing
00:08:45.160 are not the products
00:08:46.440 of slave labour
00:08:47.160 now setting aside
00:08:48.060 the challenges
00:08:48.620 and proving a negative
00:08:49.520 then you'd be able
00:08:50.860 to skirt past a prohibition
00:08:52.840 why not carve an exemption
00:08:54.360 like that into your bill?
00:08:56.080 Because at the end of the day
00:08:57.460 it's just another loophole
00:08:59.100 that clever organisations
00:09:00.920 and corporations
00:09:02.000 in China
00:09:02.800 find a way to get around
00:09:04.060 we know what's going on
00:09:05.640 in Shenzhen
00:09:06.320 our parliament
00:09:07.240 has called that out
00:09:08.240 parliaments around the world
00:09:10.400 have called that genocide
00:09:11.480 what it is
00:09:12.300 and there are certain governments
00:09:13.740 that are always trying
00:09:14.660 to be cute by half
00:09:15.800 by allowing certain loopholes
00:09:17.820 in order to appease
00:09:18.900 certain corporations
00:09:20.120 and certain pursuits
00:09:21.160 of profit
00:09:21.680 like I said
00:09:23.060 it's for Canadians
00:09:24.760 that shouldn't be acceptable
00:09:25.800 it shouldn't be good enough
00:09:26.800 How do we get Canadians
00:09:29.380 and I think this is
00:09:30.260 Canadian business
00:09:30.980 and also Canadian consumers
00:09:32.580 off of this reliance
00:09:34.320 that we seem to have
00:09:35.340 on cheap Chinese made products
00:09:37.260 and I mean it's a challenge
00:09:38.800 because a lot of Canadians
00:09:39.920 who are themselves
00:09:40.780 dealing with economic hardship
00:09:42.220 will gravitate towards products
00:09:44.660 that are less expensive
00:09:45.640 the result is that we have
00:09:47.140 this self-fulfilling prophecy
00:09:49.000 of a reliance
00:09:49.820 on these cheap goods
00:09:50.640 in China
00:09:51.140 which as you've noted
00:09:52.180 do not have
00:09:53.380 a reliable supply chain
00:09:54.940 to them
00:09:55.420 Well there's a few things
00:09:56.940 we can do
00:09:57.540 number one
00:09:58.240 there's other developing
00:09:59.380 economic markets
00:10:00.320 in the world
00:10:00.820 that would love
00:10:01.500 to have some of the
00:10:02.500 lower paying jobs
00:10:04.260 that are currently
00:10:04.920 that are currently
00:10:06.620 the benefit
00:10:07.200 of the Chinese regime
00:10:09.060 and the Chinese economy
00:10:10.160 and I also believe
00:10:11.580 fundamentally
00:10:12.160 that our G7 countries
00:10:13.700 and G20 countries
00:10:14.680 and our democracies
00:10:15.420 around the world
00:10:16.100 have to find ways
00:10:17.420 to become more competitive
00:10:18.680 to cut through
00:10:19.340 bureaucratic red tape
00:10:21.280 to lower taxes
00:10:22.300 to start creating
00:10:24.340 manufacturing
00:10:25.240 and creating jobs
00:10:26.840 back in our countries
00:10:27.940 which is something
00:10:29.180 we haven't done
00:10:29.920 over the last 20 years
00:10:30.980 and of course
00:10:32.060 when we go back
00:10:34.480 to doing that
00:10:35.100 we'll inject action
00:10:36.360 into our economy
00:10:37.280 when we bring immigrants
00:10:39.340 to our countries
00:10:40.020 we'll give them jobs
00:10:41.200 there's many ways
00:10:43.120 to do it
00:10:43.640 but right now
00:10:44.240 we've become
00:10:44.860 very complacent
00:10:46.400 we've become
00:10:47.580 very reliant
00:10:48.480 on cheap products
00:10:49.740 that come in from China
00:10:50.720 it's one thing
00:10:51.320 about a product
00:10:52.400 being competitive
00:10:53.760 within a free market economy
00:10:55.240 it's a whole other thing
00:10:56.600 when you're using slave labor
00:10:58.000 and I don't think
00:10:59.700 in the 21st century
00:11:00.900 allowing any
00:11:02.460 economic system
00:11:04.440 any totalitarian regime
00:11:06.260 around the world
00:11:06.980 to use slavery
00:11:08.440 in 2021
00:11:09.420 it's unbelievable
00:11:11.300 that it's happening
00:11:12.280 in this day and age
00:11:13.520 and like I said
00:11:14.460 Canadians
00:11:14.900 and all of us
00:11:16.220 from the West
00:11:16.700 have to take our heads
00:11:18.020 out of the sand
00:11:18.740 and take a stand
00:11:19.920 and take a stand
00:11:20.660 with our wallets
00:11:22.080 when we go to the stores
00:11:23.060 and you're buying
00:11:23.680 your Nike product
00:11:24.620 or your H&M product
00:11:25.940 or you're buying
00:11:27.100 any clothing apparel
00:11:30.360 ask the questions
00:11:31.980 where is it from
00:11:32.780 who's made this
00:11:34.340 it takes only a few seconds
00:11:36.300 to get to the bottom
00:11:37.220 of this
00:11:37.600 but you're taking a stand
00:11:39.240 for humanity
00:11:39.840 when you do that
00:11:40.620 well and I should note here
00:11:42.180 the Canadian government
00:11:43.140 is not necessarily
00:11:44.480 immune from this problem
00:11:45.780 as I'm sure you
00:11:46.940 and those watching
00:11:48.100 are aware
00:11:48.600 Canadian government
00:11:49.680 chose Lululemon
00:11:50.720 as being the official
00:11:51.780 clothing supplier
00:11:52.720 for Team Canada
00:11:53.920 for the upcoming
00:11:54.540 Beijing Olympics
00:11:55.360 and just last week
00:11:56.660 the Globe and Mail
00:11:57.660 reported that
00:11:58.340 Lululemon
00:11:58.940 is on a watch list
00:12:00.520 for a brand
00:12:01.100 that could be using
00:12:01.920 products
00:12:02.400 specifically cotton
00:12:03.360 that was coming
00:12:04.400 from forced labour
00:12:05.380 so you're right
00:12:06.020 how insidious this is
00:12:07.420 in all of these
00:12:08.140 different areas
00:12:08.760 of enterprise
00:12:09.660 and you know
00:12:10.380 right back to Canada
00:12:11.280 look we have over the last
00:12:14.140 few decades
00:12:15.020 as a government
00:12:15.800 and as a people
00:12:16.660 because of our reliance
00:12:18.680 on cheap goods
00:12:19.480 we've accepted
00:12:20.340 and tolerated
00:12:21.220 and turned a blind eye
00:12:22.960 to behaviour
00:12:24.000 that is just the most
00:12:25.620 egregious
00:12:26.200 and inexcusable
00:12:27.180 and we have to start
00:12:29.320 asking ourselves
00:12:30.160 the three or four percent
00:12:31.720 of our trading
00:12:33.060 activity with China
00:12:34.960 is it worth really
00:12:36.380 compromising our values
00:12:38.480 and who we are
00:12:39.140 as a people
00:12:39.740 you know
00:12:40.900 Canadians
00:12:41.560 hundreds of thousands
00:12:43.320 gave up their lives
00:12:44.540 in a successive number
00:12:46.320 of wars
00:12:46.920 fighting for democracy
00:12:48.300 and freedom
00:12:48.900 people that came
00:12:50.460 to this country
00:12:51.120 in the 40s
00:12:51.820 and 50s
00:12:52.380 and 60s
00:12:52.940 and to this date
00:12:53.780 they're fleeing
00:12:54.380 oppression
00:12:55.460 and hardships
00:12:56.580 around the world
00:12:57.500 and authoritarian regimes
00:12:59.220 and they're coming
00:12:59.860 to Canada
00:13:00.380 and they embrace
00:13:01.100 our passport
00:13:01.780 and flag
00:13:02.460 and our way
00:13:03.280 of life
00:13:03.780 but yet
00:13:04.720 on the back end
00:13:06.040 we're dealing with
00:13:07.140 like I said
00:13:07.700 the most brutal regime
00:13:08.900 who has no value
00:13:11.460 for human life
00:13:12.400 no respect
00:13:13.420 for the standards
00:13:14.240 that we hold so dear
00:13:15.480 and yet we continue
00:13:17.060 to pursue that relationship
00:13:18.400 and at the end of the day
00:13:19.840 we've got to look
00:13:20.360 in the mirror
00:13:20.760 and ask ourselves
00:13:21.600 are we going to continue
00:13:22.760 to engage
00:13:23.340 in this hypocrisy
00:13:24.280 I know you've got
00:13:25.960 to get your bill
00:13:26.480 through the Senate first
00:13:27.980 and the House of Commons
00:13:29.060 will have the chance
00:13:29.960 to weigh in as well
00:13:30.820 but any early indications
00:13:32.500 how other parties
00:13:33.780 are going to respond
00:13:34.840 to this
00:13:35.200 I would assume
00:13:35.900 that this is something
00:13:36.620 that should cross party lines
00:13:38.540 although we know
00:13:39.280 from that motion
00:13:40.460 on condemning
00:13:41.400 the genocide
00:13:41.960 against Uyghurs
00:13:42.760 that the Liberal Cabinet
00:13:44.060 was very much
00:13:45.480 not interested
00:13:46.140 in making that condemnation
00:13:47.780 There's no doubt
00:13:49.080 the Trudeau government
00:13:49.940 as I said earlier on
00:13:51.880 they keep dragging
00:13:52.760 their feet
00:13:53.300 they keep
00:13:54.060 being in contempt
00:13:55.880 of Parliament
00:13:56.500 at the end of the day
00:13:57.420 the House of Commons
00:13:58.340 as I mentioned
00:13:59.080 has called upon
00:14:00.460 the government
00:14:00.880 to recognize
00:14:01.540 the genocide
00:14:02.100 they refuse
00:14:02.780 we've asked
00:14:03.680 for Magnitsky sanctions
00:14:04.760 they refuse
00:14:05.700 so they seem
00:14:07.960 to constantly
00:14:08.720 kowtow
00:14:09.380 to this Chinese regime
00:14:10.780 they seem
00:14:12.760 to condemn publicly
00:14:14.180 in terms of using words
00:14:16.240 certain behavior
00:14:17.280 that's inexcusable
00:14:18.340 but when it comes
00:14:19.060 to backing it up
00:14:19.920 with action
00:14:20.540 it never seems
00:14:22.320 to equate
00:14:23.180 the language
00:14:23.800 it's business as usual
00:14:25.720 it's trade delegations
00:14:27.200 as usual
00:14:27.860 we've seen instances
00:14:29.660 where senior liberals
00:14:30.900 including a former
00:14:32.240 prime minister
00:14:32.940 and senior liberal
00:14:34.560 cabinet ministers
00:14:35.480 come out
00:14:36.040 and actually
00:14:36.520 encourage this government
00:14:37.640 during the two Michaels crisis
00:14:39.280 to engage
00:14:41.220 in hostage diplomacy
00:14:42.300 something never seen before
00:14:44.040 and that's another
00:14:45.000 concern of mine
00:14:45.900 we've seen how
00:14:46.740 the Chinese regime
00:14:48.080 using various
00:14:49.380 organizations
00:14:50.360 and corporations
00:14:51.720 and agents
00:14:53.180 they have infiltrated
00:14:54.400 various institutions
00:14:55.940 and all aspects
00:14:57.060 of our governance
00:14:58.480 our academic institutions
00:15:00.320 the business milieu
00:15:01.420 and you see it
00:15:03.220 on a daily basis
00:15:04.140 so Canadians
00:15:04.740 not only have they become
00:15:06.020 addicted to cheap products
00:15:07.680 from China
00:15:08.180 but we've also
00:15:09.280 have seen
00:15:09.820 various industries
00:15:10.880 including many
00:15:11.780 in the media
00:15:12.340 that have been
00:15:13.240 addicted
00:15:13.780 to money
00:15:15.540 that the Chinese regime
00:15:17.040 has been pouring
00:15:18.020 into this country
00:15:18.900 through foundations
00:15:19.800 and academic chairs
00:15:21.800 and playing out advertising
00:15:23.860 when Huawei sponsors
00:15:25.400 Hockey Night in Canada
00:15:26.540 this is another form
00:15:29.740 of influence
00:15:30.520 on our media platforms
00:15:33.340 and communication platforms
00:15:34.920 in this country
00:15:35.580 and we have to remember
00:15:36.880 all these dollars
00:15:38.140 coming in
00:15:38.760 from all these
00:15:39.360 type of fronts
00:15:41.660 for the communist
00:15:42.500 authoritarian regime
00:15:43.860 are money
00:15:44.760 that they've made
00:15:45.360 off the back
00:15:46.100 of people
00:15:47.400 very well said
00:15:51.040 and you'll be happy
00:15:51.820 to know
00:15:52.120 and perhaps not
00:15:52.760 all that surprised
00:15:53.440 Huawei is not a sponsor
00:15:54.800 of the Andrew Lawton
00:15:55.740 show or True North
00:15:56.540 so we're good there
00:15:57.740 but I think your point
00:15:58.580 is very well taken
00:15:59.680 and in the absence
00:16:00.680 of action
00:16:01.180 we have some action
00:16:02.360 coming from you
00:16:03.400 Senator
00:16:03.720 in Bill S204
00:16:06.020 Senator Leo Houssakos
00:16:07.620 thank you so much
00:16:08.220 for joining me
00:16:08.680 it's good to talk to you
00:16:09.440 anytime Andrew
00:16:10.520 thank you so much
00:16:11.320 thanks for listening
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