Juno News - November 27, 2022


Socializing after work is not inclusive enough？

Topics
after work drinks
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Tala Abu Hayyana Chloe Tsi Schlemiel Laverne Shirley Bloigel Yiddish
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4 minutes

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158.47

Word count

738

Sentence count

98

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3

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4

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After-work drinks are supposed to be a place for employees and their bosses to bond and chat, but for women and other marginalized groups, this common social practice is not always inclusive. In this episode, we talk about why.

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00:00:00.000 Because we work remotely, we don't have the benefit of getting together for after work drinks.
00:00:05.140 I mean, I guess we do, but we're just all drinking alone in our respective homes generally.
00:00:09.400 But there was a Globe and Mail piece that after work drinks are not inclusive enough.
00:00:15.940 The act of gathering at a bar to consume alcohol is seen as a way for employees and their bosses
00:00:20.840 to bond, to chat, to get to know one each other.
00:00:23.480 But for women and other marginalized groups, this common social practice is not always 0.78
00:00:28.540 inclusive. And they quote a Calgary-based millennial in the public sector, Tala Abu Hayyana.
00:00:34.800 And she is a Muslim woman.
00:00:37.060 So she says the social pressure to conform has been troublesome to her because she,
00:00:42.120 like other observant Muslims, do not drink.
00:00:44.900 So therefore, she is not included in after work drinks. 0.99
00:00:49.320 I don't know about she's not included.
00:00:51.360 She's chosen not to participate, I would say.
00:00:55.620 I mean, talk about twisting things around.
00:00:57.260 Look, I'm not a big drinker, but I often went out just to, you know, connect and to be social.
00:01:05.840 And that is what people do.
00:01:08.980 I mean, I think some of the suggestions that she made that they should go bowling together
00:01:13.660 or have picnics together in her op-ed.
00:01:18.580 I mean, that's crazy.
00:01:21.280 You could go on a retreat together, I suppose.
00:01:24.040 But I mean, that's what people do to wind down after a day.
00:01:28.260 It's an age-old tradition.
00:01:30.020 I'm not a big drinker.
00:01:31.660 We used to, you know, have these sort of events when I was at Post Media.
00:01:36.620 But I would sometimes go just, like I said, to connect.
00:01:40.320 But so, I mean, I think there are a lot of people in this world right now who are in search of some sort of,
00:01:49.100 we say in Yiddish, and you wanted some, it's called a broigus.
00:01:52.760 They're looking for a broigus.
00:01:54.540 They're looking for trouble.
00:01:55.800 And, you know, she's trying to create a broigus. 1.00
00:02:00.520 You know, they're complaining about nothing.
00:02:07.600 Absolutely nothing.
00:02:09.060 Yeah.
00:02:09.620 And I mean, even, like, let's go through some of the alternatives.
00:02:12.980 Well, potlucks are not good to people with dietary needs or people with food allergies
00:02:16.940 or people with religious restrictions.
00:02:19.720 Bowling and outdoor sports, they're not inclusive of people with physical disabilities.
00:02:23.740 Comedy shows, if they're good, might not be inclusive of anybody.
00:02:27.920 Escape rooms, they are tremendously, tremendously offensive to people with claustrophobia.
00:02:33.180 So how dare you try to marginalize your co-workers with claustrophobia?
00:02:37.820 Like, not everything is going to be of interest to everyone.
00:02:41.900 That's not the point of this.
00:02:43.280 It's that, like, you can go to a bar and not drink.
00:02:45.920 And I have done that many, many times.
00:02:47.840 I'm sure the servers love me.
00:02:48.980 But, you know, I'll go there if I'm with people.
00:02:51.380 And maybe I'm driving or maybe I just have an early morning.
00:02:53.740 And, you know, you grab a coffee or you grab a soft drink or something.
00:02:57.300 Dry Coke or whatever.
00:02:58.280 Yeah.
00:02:58.520 Like, who cares?
00:03:00.380 I know.
00:03:01.240 Like I said, a brogis. 1.00
00:03:03.080 Stop making trouble where it doesn't exist.
00:03:05.960 You know?
00:03:06.720 That's what my grandmother would say.
00:03:09.480 Don't make a brogis. 1.00
00:03:11.360 Yeah.
00:03:11.760 I'm going to...
00:03:12.140 I only know, like, seven Yiddish words.
00:03:14.420 But I think I can add it to eight now.
00:03:16.040 So I'm going to look that up to make sure I'm saying it right.
00:03:19.340 Two of them I know from the opening credits to Laverne and Shirley, though.
00:03:22.740 Schlemiel and Schlemazel.
00:03:23.560 I don't know what they mean.
00:03:24.720 But I know Schlemiel and Schlemazel.
00:03:26.820 Well, you know, I think this would fit into that category.
00:03:30.340 Schlemiel and Schlemazel.
00:03:32.040 Schlemiel, Schlemazel, and Bloigel, is that it?
00:03:34.940 Brogis.
00:03:35.480 Brogis.
00:03:35.900 Brogis.
00:03:36.820 Brogis means making something out of nothing.
00:03:39.860 Okay.
00:03:40.940 Well, that is that.
00:03:41.920 We should rename...
00:03:42.840 We should do a Fake News Friday Yiddish edition because I think that's often what the media
00:03:46.900 is doing here.
00:03:48.880 I'll leave you all with one final thought here from Chloe Tsi, a third-generation Chinese 0.96
00:03:53.620 Canadian dedicated to dismantling the kind of unequal systems upheld by after-work drinks
00:04:00.200 culture.
00:04:00.700 So if you invite your employees out to after-work drinks, you are contributing to unequal systems
00:04:06.060 in need of dismantling.
00:04:07.260 So take from that what you will.
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