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- November 19, 2024
Stand-up comedians CANCELLED for being too controversial
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330
Misogynist Sentences
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Hate Speech Sentences
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Well, we're now at the stage in Canada's dystopian downfall, where local politicians and mayors
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across the country are trying to shut down comedy shows because the jokes might be a little
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too offensive. God forbid Canadians in these rather trying times have something to laugh
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about. Surely we can't be having any of that anywhere in this country. Well, that's happening
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right now to a great comedy group known as the Danger Cats. They've been shut down and
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canceled across the country. And recently at a local event in Peace River, Alberta, in
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a small Alberta town, the local mayor tried to shut down the show because the jokes were
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a little too offensive. Well, of course, the show had to go on and it did. But we're joined
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now by one of the Danger Cats members to explain what on earth is going on in this country when
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it comes to stand up comedy. All right. Well, joining us now on the Faulkner show is comedian
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Brendan Black, also known as Uncle Hack of the Danger Cats. Brendan, thank you so much
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for joining the show. Yeah, thanks for having me, Harrison.
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So what's going on here? Why are mayors so afraid of your comedy? What's the deal here?
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You know, I'm still trying to figure that part out. I guess jokes are the scariest thing in
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2024 now after we got through one of the most deadliest viruses to ever plague the planet.
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I mean, what's going on with comedy, though? Why? Where is the sense of humor gone that
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mayors like the mayor in Peace River, Alberta, a small northern Alberta town? The mayor tried
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to shut your show down. What was the reason behind that? Surely they gave you a reason.
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They did. And they said that the content was too controversial.
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Okay. Without, I'm guessing based off of previous shows you've done, what kind of content is too
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controversial for a mayor in a far north Alberta town? You would think that there are conservatives
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up there, no? Yeah, you would think. But yeah, I'm not sure what she's seen or what she's heard.
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But I asked her if she's ever been to one of our shows. And she told me that she has not. So I'm
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unsure what exactly was the joke that really set her off to cancel the show. So I tried getting that
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answer out of her. And she was very reluctant to give that to me. Well, you were looking for an
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answer, a straight answer at that from a politician, which is a tall task these days. Take us through what
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happened because you obviously didn't listen to the mayor. I'm hoping you went ahead with your show.
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I'm assuming. What happened after that?
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Well, so the beginning of the story goes is I had booked the hall. And this is back like
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summertime, early summertime. And everything was good. A week of, two weeks out, I was like,
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oh, I haven't heard from these guys. Maybe I should call them and get the procedure on like,
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what do we need? Where do we get the keys? Do we have to sweep floors? What's the deal here?
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Do we set up the chairs? Blah, blah, blah. So I called the office that does the booking. And
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they put me through to a gentleman that has been trying to get a hold of me since September to let
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me know that the show has been canceled. And it's just like an administration kind of deal. You know,
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I don't fault him one bit. He just had the wrong information to get a hold of me, had the wrong
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email and whatever. So it's not his fault. But then I'm now learning that the show has been canceled
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since September. And he tells me that the mayor had stepped in, their CAO, and also his boss. I don't
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know the title of that position, but they stepped in and canceled the show for reasons of being too
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controversial or too whatever. So I decided to call the mayor and didn't answer, left my phone or left
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a callback number. She had called me late at night. And I was just chilling, watching a little Thursday
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night football. And I was not expecting a call from a mayor that late. So I wasn't prepared. I didn't
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even know who the hell was calling me. And it was like, it's an elderly woman. So it's a very soft
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voice. And then when she said, Elaine, then I was like, oh, are you the mayor of Peace River?
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And she was like, I am. And I was like, oh, I'm one of the comedians that you canceled the show on.
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And then the demeanor changed entirely. And I was like, I would just like to know why.
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And yeah, she just said, at the time we found the content to be too controversial. And I asked,
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well, have you seen our show? Nope. I was like, well, then how do you know that the content is too
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controversial? Well, you know, I always get that. Well, you know, like I'm supposed to know what
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they're thinking, you know? And then, yeah, then that happened. So that led to me scrambling to find
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a location. And that was out in Berwyn, just outside of Peace River, a friend of a friend.
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He has a local bar out there. So we just decided, you know, we'll go out there. We'll do the show.
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We'll make it happen. It's a town of 500 and like 17 people. We put 100 people in the bar
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and 30 people were outside protesting. So the population increase is like, what, 12% of a
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small little hamlet of Alberta? Yeah. It was the most action that town has seen in probably 30 years.
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That's crazy. So I saw on social media that the police showed up at your show. I'm guessing
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they didn't purchase tickets to attend. They got a bill in the mail.
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Nice. And what were they there to try to shut it down? Or what was what was the deal with that?
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They had showed up. I don't know the whole reasoning, but from my understanding that some
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someone called them and because of the protesters outside that were harassing people that were coming
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into the venue, that seemed to be the issue. And apparently these are like perpetual protesters
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of that area. So this was this was their big Friday night. So we were able to bring the community
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together. This is not the first time you've had a show canceled on your group. I've noticed that
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there have been several shows that seem to have protesters at the front and they have they take
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issue with a bunch of other things. How many times have you been canceled at this point?
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You know, it's sad to admit, but a lot. It is sad to admit. And I don't know, I've it's kind of come
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to the point now where you just kind of in the beginning, it was very like disheartening. Like it
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hurt, you know, and now it's just part of I hate that it's become part of like, maybe this might be
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the answer that I got to get of like, hey, we don't want you here. And, and but I'm finding a
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shift is most of these venue owners now, they want the business, you know, after
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lockdowns and everything, like inflation's hurting them, that they want something like we are an
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economic, economic engine when we come in through town. Like, I've noticed that some places that we
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go to, we go to a restaurant and the restaurants full, and the, the waitress is like, we don't know
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what's going on in town right now. But there's a lot of people out. So like, when we do come to these
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small towns, bars, hotels, everybody sees an influx of income. So the positive outcome of us coming
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there is great, especially for those that do have local businesses and are looking to generate some
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money. So right. And, and you know, what I don't understand is that everybody for the longest time
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has known that comedy is supposed to be offensive. And it's supposed to make people feel a little
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uncomfortable at times, but to have a good laugh, you're not supposed to, you know, have like weak,
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soft jokes, you're supposed to have the freedom to make jokes about everyone. What's gone? What happened
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all of a sudden, because now we're dealing with comics being canceled and people taking comedy too
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seriously, where did the sense of humor go from everybody in this country?
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I think it just becomes a, you want your voice or heard. And I don't blame them. You know, and I
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have no ill will towards these people that are protesting, you're exercising your right as a
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Canadian. And if that isn't, if that isn't present, then there's something wrong here. You know, you,
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you, you, you deserve as much freedom as I do. So I don't, I'm not sure. I think maybe
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this is their way of being heard. And this is their way of coming together with their group.
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Maybe this is something that they do, you know, like, uh, I've heard in, in a number of occasions
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that, um, some of these places that we do go and protesters do show up that this is what they do.
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Like you talk to the cops or whoever, and it's like, is this what, are these guys always protesting?
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And they're like, yeah, yeah. We deal with these people quite often and they are constantly
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protesting something. So maybe we're just the flavor of the week because we are coming to that
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area. I think that's a, probably a, the biggest reason, but as far as like sense of humor, like,
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I find that, you know, like the people are coming to the shows, they are wanting to laugh.
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So I, it is there, it is present. And I want to ask you now about, uh, some of the new legislation
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that's coming down, specifically this online hate speech idea, the idea that's being debated
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on right now in parliament. Basically, you know, uh, you could end up in prison for some
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jokes that are deemed to be, uh, to cross the political correctness line. I mean, ending up
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in prison would give you a lot of material, but I'm not sure. Is that a price you're willing
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to pay in this country? Um, well, you know, the end goal is the States always, you know,
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uh, that's, that's bigger population, um, more clubs to work. It's just, that's where
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you want to end up. You don't want to, unfortunately, Canada for how big the land is, we just don't
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possess a lot of comedy clubs here. Uh, I'm grateful for the ones that we do have, but,
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uh, you want it, you want to end up down there. So maybe I'm already, uh, across the border
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by the time, but when I come back, they'll slap the cuffs on and teach me a lesson, but
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it is worrisome. Uh, it is some legislation that I, we shouldn't just be treading lightly
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with. It should be concerning because if we're going to start telling people what they can
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and cannot say, this becomes a very slippery slope. And even those, the one, the ones that
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are championing, uh, this, this bill going through, you know, they're going to come for
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you eventually. It doesn't just end with the people that you hate. It also comes for you
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at the end of the day.
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And as you point out, this is being done by a small minority of Canadians. I think the
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overwhelming majority of Canadians don't believe in these hate speech laws. They want to go to
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a comedy show. They want to be able to laugh at themselves. They want to be able to laugh
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at others that are, you know, seem to be protected, um, in this country. And, and yet it's a small
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group of people that are trying to push this. You think, uh, you think comedy has a future
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in Canada if something like this comes through and is in law?
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I think it does. And I know that goes against the grain because then it makes it more fun.
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You have to be more creative. You, uh, you then become a bit of an outlaw and that's an,
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that's an enjoyable path to know that, uh, if, if you're disliked by them and hated by them and
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they want you to shut the hell up, it, uh, it, it brings this new adventure into it. You know,
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uh, obviously at the end of the day, we're just going to tell jokes, but, uh, it does,
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it does sound fun. It does have a little bit of a, and maybe we are on the, on that path right now,
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a little bit with what we're doing and coming into these towns. And it's like the, you know,
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like an old outlaw movie where these, these goons are coming into the saloon to come play poker and
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donate some shillings to the local bordello. I mean, it's just, it's crazy that, uh, that a
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small comedy group, a three, three main comedy group just manages to, uh, manages to pull out
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the crazies, uh, in each town you go to. I got to ask you about this because one of the reasons why
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your shows last year were being canceled because of some merch you were selling the, uh, the Picton
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farm shirts. I explain, explain what happened here because I've seen some people reporting on
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this who don't, who don't have any sense of humor and can't laugh about it. They didn't even bring
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you on to talk about it. So I want to ask you what's gone on there. Why, why did the left and
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why did people freak out over these shirts? You guys were donating the proceeds to charity, you know?
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Yeah. $0 were donated to the Ukraine.
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Well, that was the funniest part. I thought at least the, it does make me laugh here. And reporters
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have to take that serious, you know, uh, that we are donating the proceeds to the Ukraine that did
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make me laugh. Uh, but this, this is the, another thing that they are getting wrong about the shirt
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is, uh, so Sam has been telling a joke now for over three years on stage about Robert Picton.
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And, um, he then thought like, Oh, I've been telling this joke for three years. There is nobody crazy
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enough to put themselves on a t-shirt with that man. And he took it upon himself and he said,
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I'll do it. He put himself on that t-shirt. And the crazy thing is no one bought it. There was zero
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sales of that shirt. It existed on our website for, I want to say 11 months and not a single person
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bought it. They were not interested in it. Uh, dismissed it. I actually forgot it was on the
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website until, um, February of last year. And, um, then we got tipped off that this is going to be
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an article. So I went into the backend of our website. I changed some coding so that way nobody
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could buy it. But then it came up and it said that it was sold out opposed to just not available.
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So then it looked like we're rubbing salt in the wounds that because of this happening. But meanwhile,
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here we haven't sold a single one. And, uh, the, the crazy thing is, is they, with the media
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circulating this image, it caused this want and need for it. So these off sales, these like offshoot
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sites, like Walmart, has it posted on their website. Somebody had put it on that website
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and Walmart is selling it. So any sales of that shirt was never on our behalf.
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And yet, and yet it was used as a way to, uh, to attack you guys. And it resulted in
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protests. It's just absurd. Again, I don't understand how so many people refuse to acknowledge
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that comedians are, are, are not pushing a political message. They're not running for
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office. They're here to make people laugh. Like that's the idea that people just don't
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seem to figure out. They don't seem to get that. Yeah. So the lie that they've been perpetuating
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in, in the mainstream media is that we profited off of murdered and missing indigenous women,
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which is not the case at all. We didn't, in fact, uh, Sam lost money by paying for an artist
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to do that image. And then on top of it, the only copy of that shirt he had paid for.
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So he had, he has the only one that has ever been in existence on our behalf.
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Yeah. I mean, I, I, I just, I wonder like, are we not allowed to make jokes anymore?
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Are, are comics not allowed to make jokes anymore about certain groups of people,
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certain subjects? Like that's kind of this, that's the direction we're headed in right
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now. It's like, oh, you know, you can make fun of your, your own group, but if you're
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not indigenous, or if you're not black, you can't make jokes about those groups of people.
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Otherwise people are going to get really upset at you. That can't be a good environment
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for comedy.
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I mean, those people that, that don't want to include themselves in the joke and can't
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laugh at themselves. I mean, do you want them around? Do they sound like fun people? You
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know, the Edmonton scene, very diverse and we all rip on one another. It's one of the best
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scenes in Canada. And I will, I will say that over and over again. Um, the, even the up and
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comers, they get it. They get that. We're all here to make people laugh. That's it. You
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want to do all that protesting and activism stuff. There's four or five universities here.
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Go, go have at it. You know, you're in a comedy club. These people came here to laugh, make
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them laugh. That's your job. Do it.
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Yeah.
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You brought up the Edmonton scene. I want to ask you generally about the Canadian comedy
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scene. Um, you know, what's, what's the state of the comedy scene here? How's it doing?
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And, uh, clearly it appears that everybody is trying to work towards getting out of the
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country, but generally how's, uh, how's comedy working here in Canada so far?
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I think the future is looking good. We got some good up and comers. You know, I'm also
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pretty fresh into this. I've only been doing it for five years. So I'm still, I consider
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that new. Um, I think people are more accepting into what comics are trying to do. They understand
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what's happening up there. I mean, obviously every now and then you're going to have, uh,
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have some people a little upset. If you've seen, uh, the clips from Forte that he does
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with the Holtzman walkouts, uh, some P Holtzman is very good at, at getting the people going.
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So, I mean, it's looking good. Um, more and more people are accepting of what's happening
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on that stage. You know, these are just thoughts. This isn't meant to be, um, manifested into
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reality. It's, it's just thoughts, dumb ideas that exist in your head. And that's where they
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end. You don't believe any of this shit. It's, it's just, Hey, I'm going to write this down.
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I'm going to try it on stage, good jokes and bad jokes. Like Patrice O'Neill said,
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come from the same place. The intention there is to make you laugh. So to try and correlate
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this with hate speech is insane to me. You know, there is, that is if, if we, if I was
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going up there and I was trying to make statements rather than jokes, then yes, you take me serious,
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but look at me for Christ's sakes. You think I come walking in a room that somebody should
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take me serious? We got relapsed James Franco on the show here, Harrison. I walk into a
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room and I started making statements. Somebody should hit me in the head and tell me to go
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back of the room, buddy. Well, uh, we appreciate your time, Brendan. Where can Canadians come and
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watch danger cat shows? Where can they interact with you on social media as well? Yeah. You,
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you know what? We got a big one coming up here in Toronto. We, uh, the first ever danger
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fest with, uh, uh, Dan Guiry, uh, myself, Sam Walker. If you, if you hate us, come down and
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boo. That's the purpose of the show to come down. Heckle. You can say whatever you want.
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Come on in. Uh, that show is happening here, November 16th. And then, uh, for tickets and
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all that danger cat shop.com to see all of our dates. We're, we're, we're back. We're, we're
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going cross country here. We, uh, we'll be heading down to the States as well, working
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with Brian Holtzman, um, danger cats on social media, danger cats, comedy on Instagram. And
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then uncle hack 69 for me. Right on. Well, if you're upsetting the mayor of peace river and
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all these lefties, I feel like you're over the target, Brendan. Yeah. I, well, I got a juicy
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story for you, Harrison, that I've been hanging onto and I haven't released it to anybody. And I
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think you might be the guy to, uh, kind of put this out there if you got a little bit
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more time on your hands. All right. Well, let's hear it. Let's have it. If you want to,
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if you want to do it off the record, perfect. If you want to do it right here, you've got
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it. Well, a gentleman, this, this had happened. Uh, this isn't the only mayor that has stepped
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in to, um, stop one of our shows actually, or, or a municipal politician. Um, we were supposed
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to go to Comox, British Columbia out on the Vancouver Island there. And, um, the first
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show had been canceled. They didn't want it. Um, the manager at the, at the venue that we
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were supposed to go, uh, emails came through or actually we kept it under wraps and somehow
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she figured out who, what the show was. And, um, then a gentleman had reached out to us.
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He was the president of the lions club there. And he said, you know what? I will take this
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show on. Let's keep it quiet. You have a venue. Um, we won't say nothing until day of the show.
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And then, uh, we'll figure it out from there. So week of the show, he applies for a liquor
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license. He puts on that. He's having a comedy event. The RCMP then call him 20 minutes after
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applying for the liquor license asking, Oh, who's, who's the comedy show up? Who are the comedians?
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He says, danger cats. And he goes, Oh, you know, they're pretty controversial. Are you
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sure you want that in the town? Alluding is like, this is more than just standup comedy.
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That's going to be taking place. Uh, he, he's goes, no, I've been following these guys for
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quite some time. I don't see anything out of the realm of, of comedy standup. You know,
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everything that they're doing is a joke. They're not pushing any sort of narrative or standing
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with political parties or whatever it may be, whatever the reasons may be following day,
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a councilman calls him and then, uh, uh, uh, uh, attempts to pretty much bribe him by asking,
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Oh, well, let what, what are you expecting on booze sales? And maybe we can make a donation
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happen to the lions club. He then refuses the bribe. And then it leads into that, uh, the lease
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of the lions club in Comox is, is with the city. So then the lease was threatened at him and, uh,
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was said that, yeah, well, I see that your lease might be up. And he goes, are you serious? You want
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to take it this far? And he goes, well, you know, that's politics sometimes, you know, and then the
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following day, the mayor calls him and is demanding a letter that he canceled the show. So she can then,
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uh, wave it around being like, look, look what I did for the town. And then tries to educate him on
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what standup comedy is. And then alluding that our show is, um, on par with hardcore pornography by
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asking him, well, would you, would you play pornography in your venue? Uh, if, would you play
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pornography in your venue? And then he responds by saying, well, if people are going to buy tickets
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to this, then sure. I don't care if people are going to come down and they want to watch hardcore
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pornography with one, which is essentially, you know what? It is a bit of a compliment to,
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you know, put us on par with that. Personally, I think I would rather watch the hardcore pornography
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than, uh, this on stage. You know what I mean? So then it got to that point and, uh, yeah, he, uh,
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then was being educated on a mayor from Comox on what comedy is.
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So, so just to, just, just to confirm here, your show was canceled after counselors tried to bribe
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the venue host to not host you and the RCMP called to basically investigate this.
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Essentially. Yeah. This is the, this is what he had told me. Um, the, the Alliance club president.
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Yeah. It got to that. And this was the information that was passed along to me and you know, I,
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you know, I'm still trying to confirm it. I've tried calling both of them. They, they,
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I've left, uh, messages trying to get ahold of them and, uh, no one will answer the phone. So.
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Well, sometimes, uh, sometimes the people that hate us the most don't accuse us of being
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journalistic, but in our journalistic efforts, we will have to receive comment. We'll have to reach
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out to the other side here. Uh, the city of Comox just to get their side, but this is a remarkable story.
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Unbelievable. Yeah. It, uh, it's gotten to that level. You know, I'm, I'm,
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I didn't know municipal politics was, uh, the arbiters of laughter. I didn't, uh, I was, uh, I had no idea.
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I did not know that, uh, that a mayor like we're, we're living in the, the plot of footloose right
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now. I feel like I'm Kevin Bacon just to go tell the crowd of people that I find my sister attractive.
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I mean, this, this does, this does strengthen the case to leave Canada as a comic and, uh,
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go somewhere else and take your act somewhere else because, uh, this is just outrageous.
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The city of Comox, like you said, I mean, you guys would bring good business to that city and,
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uh, maybe some much needed laughter. I can't imagine that, uh, voters of this, uh, of the city
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government, uh, you know, are, are, are know what laughter is at this point. That, that, that being
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said, I still, I bet you, I bet you guys would, would have a, would have a great show there.
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Anyway, you should go there and just host, host something in the city, in the street,
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right up front of city hall. We might have to. That would be great.
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Yeah. We'll have to invite you out, Harrison. That'd be great. Well, uh, as, uh, as you were
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saying earlier, uh, you've got some new tour dates coming up in Ontario, I believe. And, uh,
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you've listed where Canadians can find you on social media in the, in the description of this
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video, you can find the danger cats as well. Uh, with that uncle hack, thank you very much for the
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interview. That was very interesting. Thank you for having me, Harrison. Yeah. I'm sure. We'll chat.
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Yeah. I'm sure. We'll chat. We'll chat later soon. Sounds great.
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