Juno News - November 02, 2026


Stockwell Day： Will the BC Conservatives stay united？

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00:00:00.000 with a change in government in british columbia there is fresh hope that the ban on oil tanker
00:00:10.180 traffic off the province's coast could be repealed the federal conservatives are pushing for that
00:00:16.140 this post by conservative party leader pierre polyev on x repeal the liberal tanker ban let's
00:00:23.540 get shipping oil by rail to prince rupert in the next two years it will boost our paychecks
00:00:29.940 our dollar, and our economic independence. But the Carney government remains committed to
00:00:35.320 maintaining the ban, which has been in place since 2019. Could the new government of British
00:00:40.600 Columbia make a difference in that regard? Our guest today is Stockwell Day, former leader of
00:00:45.480 the opposition federally and federal cabinet minister. Welcome to the show, Stockwell.
00:00:51.060 Great to be with you. Thanks.
00:00:52.900 Okay, so you've got to give me your feelings about how things have changed in British Columbia. I
00:00:59.940 But I can imagine that some people feel like they can kind of breathe again, if you know what I mean.
00:01:06.240 That's quite literally it.
00:01:08.160 First of all, my voice is a little hoarse from all the shouting on Saturday night at the headquarters downtown Vancouver.
00:01:16.240 As each riding was announced, a great cheer would go up, so excuse that.
00:01:21.560 Yeah, the change, you know what's really amazing?
00:01:23.820 I hadn't experienced this before after an election where you win or your team wins, everybody feels happy.
00:01:29.180 And this time they're saying, great, we won.
00:01:32.560 What's the leader's name again?
00:01:34.600 It's the most remarkable win in many ways.
00:01:38.460 As you're probably aware, it's the first time in 100 years in British Columbia
00:01:43.340 there's been a conservative majority.
00:01:44.940 So, yeah, it's like fresh breezes are blowing.
00:01:48.480 Somebody was putting up a nice sign that said, it's morning in BC.
00:01:53.040 um so you know there's a very positive feeling that uh individuals are important and that
00:02:01.680 individual prosperity can move ahead uh families and business people with students it just doesn't
00:02:08.160 matter so it's very upbeat so having said that the the tanker ban itself should be repealed it
00:02:16.160 But, you know, it's no accident that you rarely, rarely hear of a mishap these days anywhere in the world.
00:02:25.140 It's because of over the last, you know, 30 years, improvements in double-hulled tankers,
00:02:31.520 the requirement for guide and pilot boats until people are well clear of the coast.
00:02:37.480 This is something that should go ahead so that all Canadians, but British Columbians, First Nations groups can benefit by Canadian clean, refined products moving out of Canada instead of having everything happen to go pipeline into the United States where we have to sell it at a discount.
00:02:58.500 So this would be a very positive thing for everybody.
00:03:01.540 Well, you saw the post by Pierre Paglia of let's get shipping oil by rail to Prince Rupert in the
00:03:08.900 next two years. It will boost our paychecks, our dollar, and our economic independence.
00:03:13.340 What's the likelihood of that happening, do you think?
00:03:16.480 You know, a lot's going to pay. I believe, I mean, I can't put words in the mouths of the
00:03:21.180 new ministers and the new premier in BC, but I know that's the type of thing that they're going
00:03:26.580 to be looking forward to. A lot of it is going to have to do with First Nations, and there's many
00:03:32.020 First Nations groups that understand this. They want to see long-term prosperity for their own
00:03:37.620 people, long-term multi-generational jobs. So I think there will be more of an openness to that.
00:03:46.400 And what the new government in BC is going to have to realize is you are never going to make the NDP
00:03:51.720 critics happy. Certainly, they should be listened to and advice taken. But decisions should be made
00:03:59.540 on scientific analysis. And scientifically, this is a safe way to go, economic analysis.
00:04:07.700 We should just realize that selling our well-refined products into the U.S. usually at
00:04:15.520 about a 30% discount really reduces the prosperity
00:04:20.020 and the generational benefits to British Columbia.
00:04:24.160 And so as that story will now be told
00:04:27.140 through the government of British Columbia
00:04:29.300 rather than the previous NDP government,
00:04:32.140 I think the possibilities have increased.
00:04:34.600 It's got to be done carefully
00:04:35.980 and it's got to be done with good consultation,
00:04:38.540 but I believe it's achievable.
00:04:41.380 I understand that there's already been investment
00:04:43.920 pitched. In other words, there's already been talk of investment in the oil and gas sector
00:04:55.200 in British Columbia since the election. Have you heard anything about that?
00:05:01.040 Yeah, for sure. There were a number of projects of a variety of types that were just on hold.
00:05:06.580 People were saying, well, if it's going to continue to be an NDP government, then we know
00:05:11.100 our chances may not be viable to have an operational business where all people benefit
00:05:17.280 uh the the employees employers people in the area whatever the business might be
00:05:23.100 so people are coming back to the table now they're waiting to see who the new ministers
00:05:27.400 are going to be and uh yeah it's definitely optimistic uh people with with projects large
00:05:33.740 and small that are going to be beneficial to all um they're moving up to the table for discussions
00:05:39.460 now i mean the loss of the ndp is a blow to the carny government because he had an ally who was
00:05:46.500 aligned with his net zero views and so forth so with them gone replaced by the conservatives um
00:05:53.060 you know west of manitoba there's not a whole lot of support for those types of environmental
00:05:58.500 policies which he has championed you know in his book maybe you could talk a little bit about
00:06:02.980 how this is going to affect things, federally speaking, if at all?
00:06:09.820 Well, it should.
00:06:11.580 The biggest cheerleader for the Prime Minister
00:06:14.920 would be most of what we call mainstream media.
00:06:20.040 And the fact that we have a situational relationship
00:06:23.340 between the Prime Minister's office and most mainstream media,
00:06:27.320 where it's almost like they've got this agreement
00:06:29.220 that their reporters will not ask difficult questions.
00:06:33.680 They simply won't.
00:06:35.920 And if his response on any question seems to be lacking,
00:06:41.160 then the response from the journalist will help to raise it over the top.
00:06:48.180 This is going to be actually one of the challenges at the new B.C. government.
00:06:53.700 News outlets like yours, whoever the politician is you're talking to,
00:06:58.620 You're not afraid to ask the straight questions.
00:07:02.340 When all of your funding comes from the federal government, it alters the types of questions that you ask.
00:07:09.720 So this change in election really produces that different dynamic.
00:07:14.440 But the B.C. government is going to have to realize that they're dealing with a media nationally that's just going to be instinctively hostile to them,
00:07:24.200 doesn't understand things like small-c conservative economics that wind up benefiting everybody.
00:07:31.100 So that's going to be a big challenge. And even having this discussion, as you've been talking
00:07:36.160 about, on pipelines and tankers, doing that through that lens is difficult. But it's going
00:07:42.560 to change now when you have such a strong mandate of support from an entire province.
00:07:48.120 media have to recognize and have to ask responsible questions and not just be concerned about their
00:07:56.920 federal funding that comes to them. I'm wondering if the defeat of the NDP being as resounding as
00:08:03.940 it was represents maybe a structural change in BC politics. And you've been out there for a long
00:08:11.500 time. You know, is this the start of something new? I mean, besides the fact that, of course,
00:08:16.680 So you have a conservative party at the helm and that hasn't been the case, your
00:08:20.880 point earlier at about a hundred years, but the fact that this was such a
00:08:24.060 resounding defeat for the new Democrats, uh, do you think that it's, uh, a
00:08:28.980 change that will last many years?
00:08:32.760 Well, anytime a party thinks that they can make it last many years,
00:08:36.240 they'd have to be careful.
00:08:37.740 Uh, what will last is, uh, if, if the, we face an almost identical situation,
00:08:43.840 way back in 1993, before some of your viewers were born.
00:08:50.500 But it was a similar situation in Alberta
00:08:53.740 when Ralph Klein became the new premier.
00:08:56.860 We have a mandate for the people.
00:08:58.860 And we had to say to ourselves,
00:09:00.800 we promised we were going to do certain things.
00:09:03.020 We know we're going to get media pushback
00:09:05.120 every single day of the mandate.
00:09:07.160 So who are we going to listen to?
00:09:08.520 We're going to listen to the people
00:09:09.440 or we're going to listen to the media?
00:09:11.600 If you listen to the people,
00:09:12.680 you have a better chance of getting the job done. And then if it's re-election that you're worried
00:09:17.780 about, getting the job done and sticking to your word will do more for your re-election
00:09:22.980 than trying to pander to the media. And you're never going to satisfy the hardcore NDP. Yes,
00:09:30.760 of course, you should listen. Yes, they may have some suggestions that will be helpful.
00:09:35.880 But this new government needs to be remembering they got a very significant majority. And
00:09:40.980 Everywhere Lorne went on the campaign trail, he talked about the same things.
00:09:46.820 And mainstream media isn't reporting this.
00:09:48.660 They're blaming the whole thing on Eby.
00:09:50.540 And he gets, Premier Eby gets a lot of the blame.
00:09:52.640 He was a gift to the Conservatives, as I've rarely seen during an election.
00:09:59.020 But the leader and now the Premier, everywhere he went, he talked about the same things.
00:10:05.020 Not increasing taxes, dealing with the out-of-control crime problem,
00:10:09.700 shelving the hopeless and helpless drug reduction programs
00:10:16.400 that only led to increased heartbreak, sadness, and addiction
00:10:21.160 and death on our streets, smartening up the education program
00:10:25.860 so that kids are getting educated, dealing with the gender issues.
00:10:29.980 He talked about those wherever he went.
00:10:32.300 And that is really what brought people a lot, people to the polls,
00:10:37.200 along with Mr. Eby being a real gift. And so that's what they have to do. The conservatives
00:10:43.340 have to stick to the things they said they would do. And they're not going to hear a lot from
00:10:48.760 people who are happy. And it's a funny thing, American government, when you're doing things
00:10:52.680 right, you don't hear a lot from the people that you made promises to, but you'll hear from them
00:10:58.540 at election time. They'll go into that little booth. They'll put the X down. They said,
00:11:02.660 you kept your word. We're going to give you another shot. That's how it works.
00:11:06.520 Will Lord Dirksen have the internal support of the Zipari and his caucus?
00:11:11.980 Because as you're aware, I mean, B.C. has certain quirks, you know, that you have old school liberals in caucus. 0.52
00:11:20.920 And, you know, he's got a mandate, I think, but he's also interim leader.
00:11:26.400 To what degree will he be able to keep it all together and push through an agenda that was promised to the people of British Columbians?
00:11:33.540 Well, that's a great question, because there's something unique about BC politics where people are always, I mean, in politics, somebody's always, you know, jiving around trying to get into the leadership position, take out the existing leader, doesn't matter who it is.
00:11:50.680 B.C. politics seems to be especially, you know, acclimatized to that.
00:11:58.220 But the difference this time, these MLAs have just had a near-death experience.
00:12:03.300 As you know, at the leadership race, the party collapsed, disintegrated, multiple parties
00:12:08.220 phone-informing, everybody walking out, and then Evie calling the election, getting a
00:12:13.360 new leader who most people are just getting to know.
00:12:15.740 So this new death experience or near-death experience is going to cause those who are wrongfully ambitious just to backtrack, to pull in, to realize there's a mandate here from the people.
00:12:28.260 That's going to carry them through a lot of the things that you're sort of hinting at, which can be some pretty crazy stuff over the period of history of BC politics.
00:12:38.160 Yeah, I'm talking about internal divisions that seem to be a problem, particularly so in British Columbia.
00:12:45.320 I mean, he's got a caucus that's big enough that you can maybe override the odd rogue MLA in British Columbia.
00:12:55.300 You know, somebody who's maybe out of line, out of step with the conservative way of doing things.
00:13:02.660 So I guess that's the question.
00:13:04.960 And once those divisions start happening, you know, they could really, as you know, distract a government.
00:13:10.800 They can be problematic.
00:13:13.320 You know, the media will seize on that as proof that the government is falling apart.
00:13:17.560 So all of those types of things, I'm sure, are on Lauren Dirksen's mind.
00:13:21.860 Last word to you, Stockwell.
00:13:23.820 Well, the point that you've just said is going to be the key one.
00:13:27.000 Can we keep it together?
00:13:28.900 You know what is interesting?
00:13:30.880 The president, Premier, is actually an interim leader, constitutionally speaking, for the
00:13:38.000 B.C. Conservatives.
00:13:38.940 and it's in their constitution that if you're an interim leader, you can't carry on indefinitely
00:13:44.360 unless there's some kind of leadership review. So he's going to have to go through that. Now,
00:13:49.660 most people are saying, hey, he won the election. He has the right to keep it, but he has to go
00:13:54.060 through that. So it's going to be interesting to see if there's some jostling around quietly
00:13:57.880 behind the scenes. But one remarkable display of understanding here, Carolyn Elliott, actually,
00:14:04.740 who i endorsed as many did in the leadership campaign she almost won like about one percent
00:14:10.340 away she just came out with a very clear statement um and if anybody had the opportunity you know if
00:14:16.980 if people behind her wanted to push her forward and she just said so clearly yesterday lorne
00:14:22.580 dirkson won he has the right to govern i'm going to be supporting him 100 let's pull this together
00:14:29.300 so when you have people like carolyn elliott and other uh mlas making that kind of statement it
00:14:34.740 will push back some of the other some of the uh pretenders to the throne and uh should help uh mr
00:14:42.100 mr jerkson to have a steady hand here all right i'm just wondering if there's a left wing of this
00:14:48.100 conservative party that could prove problematic but i guess only time will tell it's there it's
00:14:54.340 there. It's latent, as they say. Anytime you hear you have a big tent, you know you've got some tent
00:14:59.440 pegs that would like to move. So it'll have to be a daily watch.
00:15:04.100 Stockwell Day, thank you so much for coming on the show. We greatly appreciate it.
00:15:07.640 Great talking with you. Bye now.
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