Canadian Supreme Court strikes down mandatory jail sentences for possession of child pornography. Canada's highest court rules the sentences are unconstitutional. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau meets with Chinese leader Xi Jinping to discuss trade issues. The Bank of Canada admits the country is in a recession. And the World Health Organization declares a pandemic.
00:04:29.780Any tariffs changes, sir? Any progress?
00:04:33.860Yeah, no progress on tariffs. Last March, China levied a 100% tariff on canola oil. And after meeting with
00:04:42.340the president, Donald Trump, the president of the United States, well, China agreed to buy 12 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans between now and January.
00:04:53.060Well, John Carpe is the president of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
00:04:59.380He joins us from Calgary. And there's a couple of stories that we need to touch on, John.
00:05:03.780Well, why don't we start off with the World Health Organization? Apparently, Canada has voted to jump in
00:05:10.260both feet with essentially allowing the WHO, the WHO, to what? Put us into a position where we would have to
00:05:20.740enact the rules of an organization that's not even accountable to Canadian taxpayers. Is that correct?
00:05:27.220That's exactly it. These international health regulations, um, were deemed to have gone into
00:05:34.180force, uh, September, 2025. So, uh, a month and a half, two months ago. And, uh, they would empower
00:05:44.100the director general of the World Health Organization to have the, the discretion to declare a pandemic
00:05:52.500emergency. So that ceases to become something that, that, you know, we can decide for ourselves
00:05:59.140and then to order countries to impose lockdowns, vaccine passports, mask mandates, travel restrictions,
00:06:06.660uh, mandatory vaccinations, whatever. The silver lining on the cloud is that the World Health Organization
00:06:15.780has no police force, no army, no court system. They cannot impose their will on anybody.
00:06:22.020So ultimately at the end of the day, it's up to the government of each country to decide whether
00:06:28.100they're going to follow these edicts or not. But it's very ominous that Canada and so many other
00:06:33.220countries have said, yes, we want to abdicate our sovereignty, uh, to, uh, unaccountable foreign
00:06:43.300bureaucrats based in Geneva, Switzerland. We don't want to, um, be accountable for the, to our, our own
00:06:50.900voters about our own healthcare policies. We want to abdicate our, our sovereignty to an international
00:06:55.620body. That has been the position of, of Canada, just about every country in the world. The outliers
00:07:01.700right now are the United States and Argentina and Israel and Italy, uh, are four countries that are
00:07:11.060saying no, um, they're not going to, uh, violate their own sovereignty. Good for them. But I think
00:07:21.300this allows governments like Canada who remember the pushback from last time during the pandemic,
00:07:26.740where you had the freedom convoy, you had many Canadians saying, I am not going to comply.
00:07:32.580I'm not going to be forced to give up my bodily, you know, autonomy for the sake of shots that I'm
00:07:40.500not comfortable with. And then of course the government retaliated by saying, well, you can't
00:07:46.100get on a plane. You can't get on a train. You can't get on a ferry for instance. So essentially
00:07:52.340the government of Justin Trudeau turned the country into a prison at the time by abdicating over to the
00:07:59.220WHO. They can always say, well, you know, it's not us, you know, it's those guys over there
00:08:05.540just going along with it, you know, just going along to get along. And, you know, I think that's
00:08:10.420one of the reasons why they're doing it. They can try to blame the other guys, right?
00:08:15.460That's the biggest problem with it, right? Because at the end of the day, the World
00:08:19.540Health Organization cannot force Canada. They couldn't even enforce Luxembourg or Liechtenstein to,
00:08:26.100to comply with anything. They've got no army, no police force. But the problem is exactly that,
00:08:32.100that if the, because of these international health regulations, the next time that our masters,
00:08:39.700the tyrants want to impose tyranny on us and violate our fundamental human rights and charter freedoms,
00:08:46.420violate our freedom of association, travel, mobility, bodily autonomy, freedoms of expression,
00:08:53.220association, peaceful assembly, their political soundbite to last time around, there was a heavy
00:09:01.460emphasis on, if you disagree with us, you are an anti-science Neanderthal and you don't care if
00:09:08.420people die. Next time around, they will probably still be saying, if you disagree with us, you're an
00:09:13.860anti-science Neanderthal and you don't care if people die. And we have no choice. We've signed on.
00:09:19.140We have to honour our international obligations. And for us to not impose lockdowns would be
00:09:24.820illegal because we are signatories to the World Health Organization. So that's going to be the
00:09:33.140the political tactic next time around. So that's why this is worrisome and Canadians should contact
00:09:38.420their member of parliament and say, respect Canadian sovereignty, respect democracy. Democracy is a
00:09:47.060principle of our, it's a constitutional principle that is there to it, that Canadians have a say in
00:09:56.980the laws that we live under. That's what democracy is all about, is that you have a say and you might be
00:10:03.460on the losing side of an election and you might dislike a lot of the laws, but you do have a say,
00:10:09.300might not be a big one, but you have a say in the laws that we are going to live under. That's democracy.
00:10:17.380And that's part and parcel with sovereignty that we Canadians make laws for Canada. That's not done by
00:10:24.180foreigners. And so with the World Health Organization, international health regulations,
00:10:29.860we're violating both sovereignty and democracy by handing over power to unelected bureaucrats in
00:10:36.980Geneva. And it's very ironic that this is coming from a government that will scream and shout and
00:10:42.740light its hair on fire. Every time that President Trump talks about Canada becoming a 51st state,
00:10:49.460they will thump their chests and talk about Canadian sovereignty. But yet these same people want to
00:10:57.940give over Canadian sovereignty to unelected, unaccountable international body.
00:11:05.220Now, does Canada have any recourse in terms of, say, a future government? We know where
00:11:09.860the Kearney government stands and where the Justin Trudeau government stood before him. But one day,
00:11:16.900there's going to be a change, a real change in government, not just a change in the guy at the top
00:11:21.780and not really much of a change at all. But in Canada, a future government say, you know what,
00:11:27.780we're out. We're not going to be part of this.
00:11:29.060Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. They could do that in two ways. They could do that more formally and
00:11:33.620withdraw from the World Health Organization or simply inform the World Health Organization that
00:11:39.940we reject these regulations, we're not going to abide by them. They can do that formally or informally,
00:11:45.540practically, if three months from now or three years from now or 30 years from now,
00:11:52.980if the Director General of the WHO declares a pandemic emergency, whichever government is in power
00:11:59.460in Canada at that time can simply say, oh yeah, we're not complying. We will listen to what you
00:12:04.980have to say. We'll take it under advisement and we will proceed as we deem best. Thank you very much.
00:12:10.420And that's it. And there's nothing that the World Health Organization can do about it. The other
00:12:15.620interesting twist is that the Alberta government is introducing legislation that says that Alberta is
00:12:27.460not going to comply with international treaties that impede on provincial jurisdiction, very similar to
00:12:38.340legislation that Quebec already has had on the books for the past 25 years.
00:12:43.220Healthcare, according to Canada's constitution, is exclusively provincial. It's not even shared.
00:12:49.700Healthcare is provincial, full stop. So Quebec and Alberta are two provinces that could say, well,
00:12:56.100you know what, unless Alberta, unless Quebec, unless we sign on to this, we're not going to have the
00:13:02.580federal government dictating healthcare when it is a provincial responsibility, not federal.
00:13:09.620Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't know what Quebec is going to do, but I'm pretty sure that Alberta
00:13:14.820would be pretty adamant that no, we're not going to be told what to do by the World Health Organization,
00:13:20.100which has largely been discredited since the pandemic. I mean, since that whole fiasco, when people
00:13:27.140really found out more about this organization, the power they have, and heard some of the things that
00:13:32.660they were pushing, you know, I think the level of credibility they have, the level of trust that
00:13:38.580they have amongst many people outside, like not only in Canada, but the United States and elsewhere,
00:13:43.780is rock bottom, you know? Who trusts these guys anymore, John?
00:13:49.940Well, the tyrants who want to take away our rights and freedoms, they like the World Health
00:13:56.580Organization as a tool to help them to accomplish that purpose. Tyrants never take away rights and
00:14:03.700freedoms without offering a nice sounding pretext. And so a great excuse for turning us into slaves
00:14:11.460and taking away our charter rights and freedoms is to say, oh, we've got this deadly virus. And, you know,
00:14:17.140the World Health Organization has declared a pandemic emergency. And so we've got to lock you down
00:14:24.980and make sure you can't travel and make sure that you get injected with whatever that we want you to
00:14:32.580get injected with. And it's a pretext and an excuse. The other important point is we can cooperate with
00:14:41.940other countries on fighting a virus, on environmental protection, on trade. We can cooperate with other
00:14:51.940countries in the world, and we should, without giving up our sovereignty to a supranational body. And this
00:15:00.020is something people lose sight of. They think, well, if you're not going to obey the World Health
00:15:04.180Organization, then you're being a bad world citizen. Well, it's not true at all. We can and we do have all
00:15:11.700kinds of different relationships, you know, economic, trade, cultural, health care. We've got all kinds
00:15:20.900of great relationships with other countries. And we should cooperate with other countries,
00:15:25.620but we can do that without giving up our sovereignty. Let's talk about three particular bills,
00:15:32.420possibly a fourth, if you include the Online Harms Act, that you have opposed on the grounds that
00:15:38.260if we don't oppose these bills, we're going to be a police state by Christmas under an authoritarian
00:15:47.780government. I mean, look at what's going on in the UK. I mean, how stunning is some of that,
00:15:51.300where you see people being imprisoned over Facebook posts, you know, for opposing immigration policies.
00:15:57.620But you're saying we're going down the same road, courtesy of three specific bills, right? That would be
00:16:03.460a C2, C8 and C9. Can you talk about those? Yeah, it's combined together. And the previously,
00:16:12.260the Online Streaming Act that gives the Canadian radio televisions, because the CRTC has authority,
00:16:20.020control over the internet to decide on Canadian content. So if you look at the previous bills,
00:16:26.100then you add in Bill C2, which in a nutshell, will authorize Canada Post to open letter mail without a
00:16:33.060warrant, which will make it illegal to use cash in amounts greater than $10,000, which will create a
00:16:39.460brand new Authorized Access to Information Act, which would give federal government officials,
00:16:46.500not just police, all kinds of authority to do warrantless searches on your computers and cell phones.
00:16:54.020So you have a vast expansion of the surveillance powers of the state, the search powers of the
00:17:00.500state to search and to demand information without a warrant for the government to demand from
00:17:09.220telecommunications companies that they turn over their subscriber lists and IP addresses.
00:17:14.420So that's Bill C2. It's called the Strong Borders Act. It should be called the Strong Surveillance Act.
00:17:19.860Next, we got C8, which is the Cyber Security Act, which would actually provide, if passed in current
00:17:28.500form, it will give federal cabinet ministers the power to kick Canadians off the internet on the
00:17:34.420pretext of there being a threat to Canada's telecommunications system. But the minister gets,
00:17:42.420has practically unfettered discretion to determine what constitutes a threat. And so these are the
00:17:51.060same people that froze our bank accounts that violated our rights and freedoms during lockdowns.
00:17:56.660They get to decide what's a threat. And then they actually, if they kick you off the internet,
00:18:02.980they can target individual Canadians and say, your phone is cut off. You can't use your phone
00:18:09.860anymore. You can't use your computer anymore. They can make that order secret so that you're not
00:18:15.220allowed to talk about it to your friends. And then your only recourse is to try to take it to court,
00:18:21.220which you can't do unless you've got a spare $100,000 kicking around that's available,
00:18:26.740you know, spare spending money on litigation for a court process that would take two or three years
00:18:32.020that you're not guaranteed to win. So that's Bill C8, gives federal cabinet ministers the power to kick
00:18:37.220Canadians off the internet. Bill C9 is the Combating Hate Act. And that is going to unleash a new wave of
00:18:46.100hate speech prosecutions against Canadians by getting rid of a current provision that requires the Attorney
00:18:55.460General to provide permission for a hate speech prosecution to proceed. So it's not just at the
00:19:03.620discretion of local police, local prosecutors to decide what they feel might be hateful. So there's
00:19:10.740kind of a sober second thought review process. So to date, even though these laws have been on the books
00:19:16.340for decades, we've had very few hate speech prosecutions in Canada. If Bill C9 passes, we're going to see a lot more
00:19:24.820prosecutions. Well, we already have a criminal code provision, right, for inciting hatred. And I
00:19:34.820can just distinctly remember hearing and watching some of the committee hearings about this. And the
00:19:39.380questions was always asked, you know, to the minister, why do we need this extra law? You know,
00:19:47.220why the need for that? And I think his answer was, well, so that we could charge them under two different
00:19:51.460laws. We could really go after them. You know, that was his excuse. That was his reason for it.
00:19:57.300So we could really go, you know, clamp down on this sort of thing. I mean, as far as I could see,
00:20:02.740the current act on the books, as far as inciting hate goes, has been doing its job fine for decades.
00:20:09.940And nobody's had a real problem with it, except maybe with the way it's enforced. You know,
00:20:14.580some people seem to get away with a lot more hatred towards their fellow man and woman than other
00:20:19.460people. You know, if you look at, for instance, some of the things that were said during the
00:20:23.220anti-Israel pro-Hamas protests that we saw time and time again, just hate-filled, hate-fueled attacks
00:20:31.300on an identifiable group of people. Very few people were charged, if any, under the
00:20:36.580provision of attack. Isn't that true? I mean, is the way it was enforced?
00:20:41.460Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And then you've got, you know, social conservative activists like Bill
00:20:46.820Watcott, who he and some friends dress up as green, during the Toronto Pride Parade,
00:20:54.340they dressed up as green gay zombies. And they handed out a pamphlet that talked about some of the
00:21:05.220diseases that you could get from certain sexual activities. And yeah, it was hard-hitting. I could
00:21:13.220see why his literature was offensive. He gets charged with hate speech for, you know,
00:21:19.380distributing socially conservative flyers during the gay pride parade in Toronto.
00:21:30.180And then, as you said, you have people with very hateful, but here's the problem. It's an emotion,
00:21:35.540right? Like you could listen to it. You and I could listen to the same person saying the same thing,
00:21:40.740and you could say, oh, that's really hateful. And I could say, nah, it's just an opinion. And vice
00:21:45.780versa. I could listen to something and say, oh, do you hear the hate? And you could say, no, it's just
00:21:51.380an opinion. So this is the problem. And Bill C-9 Combating Hate Act, it's going to, if it's passed in
00:21:59.620current form, we're going to see a lot more Canadians prosecuted over their speech. It also gives judges the
00:22:05.700power to severely increase penalties. If the judge feels that hate was part of the motivation in
00:22:13.060the commission of a crime, then a maximum penalty of two years can become a maximum penalty of five
00:22:19.380years. Maximum five can become maximum 10. Maximum 10 can become maximum 14. Maximum penalty of 14 years
00:22:26.660can become life in prison if the judge feels that hate was involved in the commission of an offense.
00:22:32.500So that too is quite worrisome, that you see these very draconian penalties based on an emotion.
00:22:44.340And it's really about shutting people up. I mean, let's face facts here. The government doesn't like
00:22:48.660certain opinions. They don't like those opinions shared. They saw what happened during the pandemic
00:22:53.380when people started sharing opinions about the pandemic itself and the lockdowns and these draconian
00:23:00.180measures that were brought in supposedly for our health. And the government wants to shut that
00:23:04.900down. Whatever, you know, anything that they don't like and they want to shut it down. And of course,
00:23:09.380the other side that's very troubling is, you know, just because you find something offensive doesn't
00:23:13.460mean it should be illegal. You know, there's stuff that I find offensive. I've seen it. You know,
00:23:18.740I just got to, you know, turn the page and find something else to look at. But my concern is that
00:23:24.340they'll turn that into a crime. You offend somebody, well, you've committed a crime.
00:23:29.140You know, I mean, I offend people all the time. So that's my problem.
00:23:34.820Well, tied in with that, we've got the potential reintroduction of the Online Harms Act,
00:23:39.700which is Bill C-63. It died on the order paper in April of 2025 when the election was called.
00:23:47.380It was it was on track to get through. I mean, the block and the NDP were both supporting it. So
00:23:54.820this bill, the Online Harms Act, if reintroduced, would give new powers to the Canadian Human Rights
00:24:03.060Commission to prosecute non-criminal offensive speech. And this is also a big nightmare because
00:24:10.660they think that because it's not criminal, it's not a big deal. And so they can prosecute Canadians
00:24:18.580over offensive speech. But the problem is the penalty is up to $50,000 payable to the federal
00:24:27.140government, up to $20,000 payable to a complainant who felt offended by the speech. And if you choose to
00:24:38.820fight it, if you retain counsel, you'll be out of pocket tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills.
00:24:43.620So that's the Online Harms Act. You know, you won't have a criminal record, you'll just be
00:24:48.420out of pocket, a lot of money, and you'll have this non-criminal prosecution hanging over your head
00:24:54.660for years. The Online Harms Act also had a provision in there that a judge could place you
00:25:05.060under house arrest, make you respect a curfew, and wear an ankle bracelet if he believes that you
00:25:12.580might commit a speech crime in future. And I kid you not, this is a Minority Report.