Juno News - The Andrew Lawton Show： Pandemic Power Grab

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.

00:00:06.660 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.

00:00:12.740 Coming up, exposing Justin Trudeau's pandemic power grab.

00:00:16.620 Also, Jim Carajalios suing the Conservative Party for disqualifying him from the leadership race.

00:00:24.640 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.

00:00:30.000 What was it that Rahm Emanuel said never let a crisis go to waste?

00:00:35.600 That certainly looks like something Justin Trudeau has taken to heart.

00:00:39.380 Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show.

00:00:41.740 Continuing our running stream of pandemic editions of the program here.

00:00:46.320 And talking in this case about the intersection of COVID-19 with Canadian politics.

00:00:53.400 And how something that should never have been about politics has been politicized to the nth degree.

00:01:00.000 By Justin Trudeau.

00:01:02.160 Now, I want to give a few different examples of how we got here.

00:01:06.480 And why it's so damaging that we have.

00:01:09.160 Because for the last couple of weeks, I actually said in the previous edition of this program, for example.

00:01:14.320 That Justin Trudeau has been a very capable and consistent communicator.

00:01:18.680 And I was prefacing that by saying that I don't necessarily endorse all of the policy decisions.

00:01:24.220 Clearly, I've criticized several of them.

00:01:26.700 But he's been available.

00:01:28.000 He's been speaking.

00:01:28.960 And you know what?

00:01:29.440 I think there is a role for the Prime Minister of Canada, whomever it is, to be a unifying figure in times of crisis.

00:01:37.780 And I think that the opposition parties understood that.

00:01:41.140 Which is why the Conservatives have not been relentlessly criticizing Justin Trudeau.

00:01:45.640 Why Jagmeet Singh has not been doing it.

00:01:47.920 Why the opposition parties all basically said, all right, we're going to take a backseat here.

00:01:52.980 And let the Prime Minister of Canada, the Office of Prime Minister, be the head of government.

00:01:58.460 The person leading Canadians through this.

00:02:00.660 Now, that goodwill that I think Justin Trudeau was getting from the opposition evaporated on Monday night when the Liberals tried to sneak in legislation that would give them unfettered taxing and spending power without parliamentary approval until December of 2021.

00:02:20.140 So almost two years from now, at which point, and I said this in another show with Candace Malcolm yesterday, if we are still dealing with COVID-19 by December 2021, there are bigger problems than Canada's fiscal situation.

00:02:34.620 So all of this is to say that we are looking at a pandemic power grab.

00:02:40.120 A COVID-19, can we call it, coronavirus, an attempt at subverting the parliamentary process, subverting democracy, all in the name of crisis management.

00:02:53.580 Now, I agree that governments need to be able to act quickly when there is a crisis.

00:02:57.960 I agree that governments need to be able to move swiftly, to make tough calls, and to not go through the extended and prolonged bureaucracy.

00:03:06.860 But you can still do things in a democratic way.

00:03:10.120 So this initial bill that the Liberals put forward now had a section in it that would have given the finance minister, Bill Morneau, the complete power to levy taxes, to spend whatever he wants, all without parliamentary approval, and again, until December 2021.

00:03:27.900 Now, this will happen in a way that would have just completely destroyed or left the potential for the Canadian economy to be obliterated because all of a sudden there's no check and balance in Parliament.

00:03:43.240 So this was going to be tabled, and the whole point of it was the Liberals were saying they wanted unanimous consent.

00:03:51.640 All the parties agreed to send a little delegation for a total of 32 out of 338 MPs, and they were all going to be MPs that could drive to Parliament Hill,

00:04:01.180 and they were going to just agree because it was important to get the money out the door.

00:04:06.040 The $82 billion that Justin Trudeau promised to Canadians in aid, in tax deferral, in relief programs last week,

00:04:13.200 that was what was supposed to be in this bill.

00:04:16.880 But instead, it is a power grab.

00:04:20.200 The bill was going to be manifesting itself not as an $82 billion relief package, but as an attempt for the Government of Canada to hold a COVID-19, a coronavirus.

00:04:32.680 I don't know which one we're going with yet, but a pandemic power grab very much.

00:04:37.280 And look, I'm glad that the government backed away on this.

00:04:41.460 And we heard the next morning after news of this broke,

00:04:44.660 Justin Trudeau tweeted that it was going to be put forward without, I think it was, Clause 2.

00:04:50.220 And Pablo Rodriguez, who's the Liberal government's House leader, said very similarly,

00:04:54.680 we've listened, we've consulted, this is what democracy is all about,

00:04:58.440 and we are going to engage with the Conservatives and find a way through.

00:05:02.940 So, yes, you can say power to you, you can give them a gold star for that,

00:05:07.640 but it doesn't address the two fundamental questions of, A, why was that provision there in the first place?

00:05:15.040 And B, what did you think was going to happen?

00:05:18.800 So, I don't know if they hoped that no one would notice,

00:05:22.060 or if they thought that the climate would be such that the Conservatives would have to go along with it

00:05:27.200 because we're in the middle of a crisis.

00:05:29.120 The Conservatives didn't take the bait, and they risked, as you saw from the media narrative,

00:05:35.000 being accused of holding up essential aid,

00:05:37.720 when in actuality, the Conservatives were just holding up what was going to be

00:05:41.880 a liberal exploitation of a crisis.

00:05:45.500 Now, take a look at this tweet from CTV's Don Martin,

00:05:48.940 which I think really encapsulates why the media's problems here are so ubiquitous.

00:05:54.020 He said,

00:05:55.000 Now, this is a National News Watch piece that says,

00:06:10.840 So, the media was trying to frame the Conservatives as being the bad guys here.

00:06:25.780 They were trying to make it out that Justin Trudeau was the savior coming in with his $82 billion,

00:06:30.340 and, oh, those penny-pinching Conservatives don't want the people to get the essential help they need.

00:06:36.340 But this was not what was agreed to.

00:06:39.900 And Andrew Scheer, who I know is on his way out as leader of the Conservative Party of Canada,

00:06:45.240 I thought was very solid in this.

00:06:47.000 He said,

00:06:47.240 Look, there's a very easy way to do this.

00:06:50.000 Just pass the bill that you were talking about last week.

00:06:54.140 Pass the bill that you promised.

00:06:56.120 Pass the bill that you told Canadians you were going to pass.

00:06:58.940 Put that forward, and we will all vote for it.

00:07:01.780 You'll get your unanimous consent.

00:07:03.680 But that's not what the Liberals tried to do at this emergency session of the House of Commons.

00:07:09.500 Instead, the Liberals decided they were going to go and try to basically run the table,

00:07:15.240 not just during this crisis, but for the next year and three quarters or so.

00:07:21.360 So the Conservatives have now claimed victory.

00:07:24.080 What happened was the parliamentary session met Tuesday at about noon,

00:07:28.240 and less than five minutes later, it was suspended because Pablo Rodriguez said

00:07:33.420 all of the parties were going to go and negotiate behind closed doors

00:07:37.520 to basically get a version of the bill that they were all going to be on board with,

00:07:42.100 that they would all be able to pass and offer that unanimous consent to.

00:07:47.020 And I have a lot of questions about this.

00:07:49.340 I mean, for starters, and I asked why the Liberals thought this would fly in the first place,

00:07:54.580 a part of me thinks they were trying to get the Conservatives to vote against it.

00:08:00.520 Because I already see how the narrative is shaping up in the media, like I just mentioned.

00:08:04.620 So I think that the Liberals wanted to put a bill forward that has all of the $82 billion stuff,

00:08:11.240 but also had additional government powers that they knew the Conservatives would resist,

00:08:16.420 just so that they could get the Conservatives to vote against it,

00:08:20.220 and then say, oh, look at those Conservatives.

00:08:22.780 Look at those Conservatives holding up the essential work that the government is trying to do.

00:08:27.040 This is why we need all of these powers.

00:08:29.440 Because, you know, if you go through Parliament, all these people with their democracy and,

00:08:34.080 you know, their checks and balances and their accountability,

00:08:36.920 they'll just hold it up and not let us do what we want to do,

00:08:39.740 which was, you know, kind of the benefit of not living in a dictatorship.

00:08:43.960 So yeah, you can have quick, prompt action that doesn't subvert Parliament.

00:08:50.200 And I think what Andrew Scheer was saying yesterday is that this is

00:08:53.180 precisely the point of this emergency session yesterday.

00:08:55.960 You proved that you can have Parliament, it can function in a pandemic situation,

00:09:01.320 by having a limited number of MPs, by working together, by doing all of these things.

00:09:06.040 But you need to have honest brokers, and you need to have people operating in good faith.

00:09:12.460 And I have no doubt in my mind that the Liberals were not operating in good faith

00:09:17.560 when it came to putting this draft bill forward Monday night.

00:09:21.260 Now, the bill has now passed.

00:09:22.860 The Conservatives have claimed victory on it, but I'll talk about that in a moment.

00:09:27.000 I want to share a little snippet of a press conference that Andrew Scheer did Tuesday morning.

00:09:32.300 And like I said, I mean, Scheer was fantastic through this

00:09:35.600 and acknowledged that the Conservatives were pretty blindsided.

00:09:39.100 They wanted to have a clean bill.

00:09:42.160 They wanted to have a bill that just shipped out the aid that Justin Trudeau had promised.

00:09:47.260 And instead, they got one that was essentially calling for parliamentary authority

00:09:52.680 to turn Justin Trudeau and his cabinet into a little oligarchy of sorts.

00:09:58.720 And this is what Andrew Scheer said, because I actually was at the teleconference version

00:10:02.780 of that press conference, and I asked Andrew Scheer a couple of questions about it,

00:10:06.640 because he was resistant to the idea for obvious reasons of giving Trudeau what Andrew Scheer

00:10:13.040 called a blank check.

00:10:14.880 But the flip side of that is if you're saying to the government,

00:10:18.040 yeah, we'll give you all the things you ask for, how is that different than a blank check?

00:10:22.320 At what point is it no longer a point where you are supporting what the government is asking for?

00:10:29.540 And this is the brief exchange that Andrew Scheer and I had Tuesday morning at his press conference.

00:10:34.220 Good morning, Mr. Scheer.

00:10:36.200 My first question is regarding the dollar amount.

00:10:39.900 So right now it's $82 billion.

00:10:41.820 You've noted these are unprecedented times.

00:10:44.900 Is this, in your view, something where you just have to give the government whatever it asks for,

00:10:50.500 or is there a limit where you and the Conservatives are going to say,

00:10:53.000 listen, I mean, I think you're going too far here?

00:10:55.900 We're going to be focused on the nature of the programs that are designed.

00:10:58.920 We recognize that it's going to require a lot of government resources to help people through this difficult time.

00:11:06.080 And so we're going to be focusing in these early days to make sure that the programs are designed in a way

00:11:10.440 that will actually reach people, that nobody falls through the cracks,

00:11:14.100 that when we can identify a gap in how they've designed something, that they're able to address that.

00:11:20.940 That's our mindset right now.

00:11:22.600 So, you know, we know that we're entering into this period with already carrying massive deficits from years before.

00:11:31.100 This is one of the reasons, you know, we have always called for fiscal responsibility while times are good

00:11:35.740 so that we're in a better position when a crisis hits or when a downturn presents itself.

00:11:41.760 That being said, we believe in this period of time, while Canadians are focused on, you know,

00:11:47.500 worried about how they're going to pay their rent, worried about how they're going to pay their groceries,

00:11:50.680 that that needs to be the primary focus.

00:11:53.060 And that's exactly why we're here today, to make sure that this package of assistance gets passed.

00:12:00.240 And as a follow-up, you were very critical, of course, of the previous draft of the legislation

00:12:06.140 the Liberals planned to table today, which would have given reportedly unfettered taxing and spending power.

00:12:12.220 Can you rule out the possibility that you would vote against a confidence motion

00:12:16.860 or a bill that was implicitly a confidence motion during this crisis?

00:12:21.240 Well, look, I think this is a period of time where all parties are willing to put aside their partisan differences

00:12:26.360 and focus on helping Canadians, putting them first.

00:12:29.300 I don't think Canadians want to see partisan divisions, partisan disagreements.

00:12:37.860 This should be an opportunity for parliamentarians from all parties to come together

00:12:42.160 to pass the measures that the government announced.

00:12:44.140 I believe it's very simple, actually.

00:12:46.480 Justin Trudeau announced a number of measures last week.

00:12:50.420 We're here to support them.

00:12:51.660 If he believes that there are new measures that are required,

00:12:54.380 we are willing to come back and play our role in providing the parliamentary oversight to do exactly that.

00:13:01.180 So we'll see.

00:13:02.540 We'll wait and see exactly what the government proposes this afternoon.

00:13:06.040 Our hope is that they will stay focused on providing assistance to Canadians,

00:13:10.520 not focused on a power grab, not focused on giving themselves unprecedented new powers.

00:13:17.000 We can be here in 48 hours' notice to do exactly what we're doing today,

00:13:22.340 to pass measures to provide that assistance to Canadians.

00:13:25.180 I believe that we've shown that good faith.

00:13:28.080 We agreed to the adjournment a few weeks ago.

00:13:30.640 We agreed to grant flexibility to the government in terms of spending.

00:13:34.660 We agreed to come back today.

00:13:36.800 We agreed to a shorter, smaller roster to respect the public health concerns.

00:13:42.000 So I believe that parliament is functioning very well during this time

00:13:45.680 and can continue to do that in the days and weeks ahead.

00:13:49.820 Yeah, and I didn't mention it at the beginning when I was leading into that,

00:13:53.200 but as you heard in my second question, I asked him about that confidence aspect

00:13:56.880 in that any government bill is a spending bill.

00:14:00.260 So if it is going to be a spending bill, that makes it a confidence motion of sorts.

00:14:05.600 So is that an area where the Conservatives would vote against?

00:14:09.100 And Scheer was very clear.

00:14:10.400 This is not about partisanship.

00:14:11.720 He just wants good policy coming out of the federal government at a time of crisis for Canada.

00:14:17.820 So this is, I think, a very important dynamic that we have here.

00:14:22.760 So what happened is after the House of Commons had suspended, hours later,

00:14:28.800 I mean, I was following, I had CPAC on in my living room at home being in quarantine,

00:14:34.060 and I was trying to watch to see when they were sitting down again.

00:14:37.640 And at a certain point, I just assumed the screen had frozen

00:14:40.460 because it got to, like, the point where I'm eating dinner at 7 p.m.

00:14:44.760 and it's still suspended by, I don't know if we can put the graphic up,

00:14:48.800 but suspended by direction of the chair or something like that.

00:14:51.740 And then, you know, after dinner, suspended by direction of the chair.

00:14:55.000 And then, you know, bedtime at 11 p.m.

00:14:57.220 and it's suspended by direction of the chair.

00:14:59.640 So I'm like, all right, well, I guess, you know, I'll go to bed and wake up

00:15:03.000 and maybe it'll still be suspended by direction of the chair.

00:15:05.700 Now, as it so happened, by the time I woke up,

00:15:08.580 they had just passed or were in the process of passing the legislation.

00:15:13.760 So by the time Wednesday morning came around,

00:15:16.280 the bill had been passed and the Conservatives had stripped away,

00:15:20.920 in their words, all of the contentious sections of this.

00:15:23.980 So I'll pull up a release that was sent out

00:15:25.980 by the Conservative Party of Canada this morning.

00:15:29.240 They said they were able to get the government to remove the section

00:15:32.860 that would have allowed them to raise taxes without parliamentary approval,

00:15:36.160 to walk back unlimited spending powers and make special warrants expire

00:15:41.140 in June instead of September,

00:15:43.780 to demand government include explicit reference to putting taxpayers' rights first,

00:15:49.680 to put sunset clauses in the legislation,

00:15:52.900 and to demand accountability through Parliament

00:15:55.940 by virtue of reports to the Health and Finance Committees,

00:15:59.460 and also that the Finance Committee would have the right to recall Parliament

00:16:03.340 if abuses are identified.

00:16:05.400 Now, this is important because the Finance Committee

00:16:07.640 is opposition-controlled,

00:16:10.180 like all committees are,

00:16:11.580 because it's a minority situation.

00:16:13.660 So the Finance Committee could convene on its own

00:16:16.580 and force the House of Commons to a recall.

00:16:19.700 So I think that's pretty much the nerdiest section of this,

00:16:23.680 as far as just political wonkery, if you will,

00:16:26.800 but in many respects the most important,

00:16:28.960 because that is the concession for which the Conservatives are claiming credit,

00:16:33.420 but that is the section that will allow for parliamentary oversight

00:16:38.340 and parliamentary accountability down the line.

00:16:41.840 So I don't want to make this about just the political process at work,

00:16:46.700 because it's about something far more fundamental

00:16:49.300 than just how the House of Commons works

00:16:52.420 and this procedural rule and that procedural rule,

00:16:55.360 and I still don't know if question period,

00:16:56.920 I mean, maybe question period happened at 4 a.m.

00:16:59.140 I have to check the PBR or something,

00:17:01.840 but it's about the impetus behind it,

00:17:04.720 because if we are to do what Justin Trudeau

00:17:07.240 has been telling us to do at his daily briefings

00:17:09.420 for the last week and a half, two weeks,

00:17:11.700 which is, you know what,

00:17:12.960 we all need to just be good Canadians

00:17:14.620 and rise together and work together.

00:17:16.840 And, you know, Justin Trudeau has used this line

00:17:19.560 pretty much every day,

00:17:21.740 which is, you know,

00:17:22.540 if you can drop groceries off for a neighbor,

00:17:24.900 if you can, you know,

00:17:26.220 stay away,

00:17:27.520 if you can, you know,

00:17:28.420 have a phone call with grandma,

00:17:30.020 if you can do all of these things

00:17:31.420 that are just nice, sweet things to do,

00:17:34.900 the country will be a better place.

00:17:36.880 And it's funny that this neighborly Canadian spirit

00:17:40.620 that he's been pontificating on

00:17:43.180 didn't extend to the way

00:17:44.620 that he decided to operate with his own colleagues.

00:17:48.920 Now, in many respects,

00:17:49.800 maybe he can just claim innocence on this,

00:17:51.860 given that he was at Rideau Cottage in isolation,

00:17:54.640 but his team,

00:17:55.660 the MPs for the Liberals

00:17:57.640 that were tasked with actually dealing with this

00:17:59.580 in the House of Commons

00:18:00.600 did not operate in good faith.

00:18:03.440 They didn't operate

00:18:04.360 in that neighborly Canadian spirit

00:18:06.860 that Justin Trudeau has been telling us

00:18:08.560 to embrace and to employ.

00:18:11.220 They tried to pull a fast one

00:18:13.420 for whatever reason.

00:18:15.940 I, you know,

00:18:16.500 there's that old saying,

00:18:17.980 never attribute to malice

00:18:20.300 what you can attribute to incompetence.

00:18:22.240 And there's also something to be said

00:18:24.060 about assuming that incompetence

00:18:25.940 and malice can sometimes go hand in hand.

00:18:28.240 I don't know which it is.

00:18:29.660 I don't know if they are just so blind

00:18:31.600 and ideological and arrogant

00:18:33.800 that they thought

00:18:35.040 that no Canadians would object

00:18:37.500 to the Liberals having unfettered

00:18:39.140 taxing and spending authority.

00:18:40.600 Maybe they just thought,

00:18:41.420 you know what,

00:18:41.760 people trust us,

00:18:42.540 people like us.

00:18:43.260 The Liberals,

00:18:44.600 you can say many things about them,

00:18:47.320 but one of the most significant factors

00:18:49.960 that I think helps the Liberals

00:18:51.680 and certainly the Liberals

00:18:52.760 under Justin Trudeau

00:18:53.820 is that they are completely

00:18:56.240 and utterly self-assured.

00:18:58.600 Now, maybe not self-aware,

00:19:00.040 but they are completely

00:19:01.120 and utterly self-assured.

00:19:02.380 Most Liberals probably think

00:19:03.640 Justin Trudeau can walk on water.

00:19:05.620 They love their leader.

00:19:06.720 They love their brand.

00:19:07.920 They are absolutely thrilled

00:19:09.800 with themselves

00:19:10.840 and they think

00:19:11.900 all other Canadians are as well.

00:19:14.820 So that I think

00:19:16.140 is how you can justify this

00:19:18.380 in some way.

00:19:19.300 But I also think

00:19:20.440 that there is a cynical attitude here

00:19:22.660 that I mentioned earlier,

00:19:24.020 which is that the Liberals

00:19:25.180 just thought

00:19:26.340 that the Conservatives

00:19:27.920 wouldn't vote against it

00:19:29.460 or they wanted them

00:19:30.540 to vote against it

00:19:31.520 so that they could turn around

00:19:32.940 and do what's happening

00:19:34.000 in the media now,

00:19:34.880 which is to say,

00:19:35.680 oh, those evil Conservatives.

00:19:38.180 So listen,

00:19:39.100 I mean, the reality is

00:19:40.120 I wanted this money

00:19:41.420 to get out the door.

00:19:42.380 I think that it would have been

00:19:43.440 easier to do

00:19:44.380 a direct disbursement

00:19:45.900 to do what's happening

00:19:46.760 in the U.S.,

00:19:47.480 which is give every Canadian

00:19:48.520 a check for whether

00:19:49.760 it's $1,000, $1,200,

00:19:51.920 whatever the amount is.

00:19:53.500 Probably cheaper

00:19:54.560 and easier to administer,

00:19:56.420 which means you save money

00:19:57.640 in the administration

00:19:58.780 of it as well,

00:20:00.540 but also more accessible

00:20:01.980 to people.

00:20:03.160 So if you are someone

00:20:05.140 who's really vulnerable,

00:20:06.460 really in need,

00:20:07.320 arguably the type of person

00:20:08.600 who is most in need

00:20:09.900 of government support,

00:20:11.420 you're probably

00:20:12.340 the least likely

00:20:13.520 to know how

00:20:15.060 to navigate the system.

00:20:16.400 If you've ever jumped

00:20:17.280 down the rabbit hole

00:20:18.320 of government websites

00:20:19.600 and this government website

00:20:21.140 and this government website

00:20:22.340 and this information line

00:20:23.980 and they kick you here

00:20:25.000 and more often than not,

00:20:26.940 the information you get

00:20:27.840 is the wrong one

00:20:28.760 and lines are clogged.

00:20:30.240 You know,

00:20:30.460 I just did my wife's 1.00

00:20:31.640 and my taxes last night,

00:20:32.960 which let me tell you

00:20:33.900 is no picnic either,

00:20:35.700 no way to celebrate

00:20:36.720 the quarantine,

00:20:38.280 even with having an extension.

00:20:40.600 I just wanted to do it

00:20:41.620 and get it out of the way now.

00:20:43.340 But a lot of people

00:20:44.600 who are really in need

00:20:46.360 of government support

00:20:47.380 and by the way,

00:20:48.300 when I say vulnerable,

00:20:49.200 I don't mean people 0.96

00:20:50.540 that are idiots. 0.96

00:20:51.320 I mean people

00:20:52.020 that are in situations

00:20:53.160 where they need the support.

00:20:55.280 You know,

00:20:55.560 whether it's a small business owner

00:20:57.020 who doesn't know

00:20:58.140 if they're going to be able

00:20:58.920 to make payroll,

00:20:59.800 whether it's someone

00:21:00.500 who is on a fixed income

00:21:02.020 right now

00:21:02.620 and whatever the case may be,

00:21:04.640 people need this support

00:21:07.080 and the government

00:21:08.100 is giving it to them

00:21:09.560 but you have to go through

00:21:10.980 this program,

00:21:11.820 that program,

00:21:12.680 this program

00:21:13.360 and I think there's something

00:21:15.140 to be said

00:21:15.660 for just making it simple.

00:21:17.300 Here's a check,

00:21:18.720 have at it.

00:21:19.620 But besides the point,

00:21:21.440 I'm generally supportive

00:21:22.780 of the government

00:21:23.480 trying to help people

00:21:24.960 in this way

00:21:25.780 because of the extraordinary

00:21:27.440 circumstances

00:21:28.380 in which we are living

00:21:29.520 right now

00:21:30.140 and you know what,

00:21:32.340 if the government

00:21:33.140 had just done

00:21:34.140 what was announced,

00:21:35.680 this wouldn't have been a problem.

00:21:37.620 This wouldn't have even been a debate

00:21:38.920 because the conservatives

00:21:40.680 were pushing for the liberals

00:21:42.920 to bifurcate the bill.

00:21:44.520 There was a bill

00:21:45.280 that had all the aid

00:21:46.200 and there was a bill

00:21:46.920 that had the extended powers.

00:21:48.500 The conservatives were saying,

00:21:49.580 listen,

00:21:50.000 why not just make this two bills?

00:21:52.160 And Bill Morneau

00:21:53.200 had said,

00:21:53.780 oh no,

00:21:54.140 we need it all.

00:21:55.700 We need it all.

00:21:56.760 It's just one big omnibus party bill

00:21:59.720 that we're doing here

00:22:00.560 and that was why

00:22:01.860 there were so many problems with it.

00:22:04.400 So I was watching every single,

00:22:06.960 I've listened to every single word

00:22:09.180 Justin Trudeau has had.

00:22:10.620 Now,

00:22:11.300 had to say for the last week and a half.

00:22:13.260 Now,

00:22:13.420 if there is something deserving

00:22:14.540 of an Order of Canada,

00:22:15.840 this is it.

00:22:16.580 I have had to listen to every word

00:22:18.280 that Justin Trudeau has uttered.

00:22:19.940 I've also listened to everything

00:22:21.340 that Chrystia Freeland

00:22:22.360 and Bill Blair

00:22:23.140 and Bill Morneau

00:22:23.920 and all of these people have said

00:22:25.300 at these daily briefings.

00:22:27.000 Hours a day

00:22:28.000 I'm spending listening

00:22:29.520 to what the government is saying

00:22:31.040 and in some cases

00:22:32.620 these press conferences

00:22:33.600 are going an hour each

00:22:34.820 and there's three of them a day

00:22:36.880 that I'm watching.

00:22:37.800 I'm not saying this to brag.

00:22:39.260 I'm saying this to tell you

00:22:40.300 that I am so immersed

00:22:41.500 in what's happening

00:22:42.560 and not once

00:22:44.460 did anyone ever say

00:22:46.600 throughout any of these

00:22:47.720 the government needs more powers

00:22:50.880 to do what's necessary

00:22:53.000 to stop this.

00:22:54.460 Never did that come up.

00:22:56.220 In fact,

00:22:56.660 Justin Trudeau has rebuffed

00:22:58.280 advancing under

00:22:59.800 the Emergencies Act

00:23:01.080 formerly the War Measures Act

00:23:02.860 or martial law

00:23:03.820 as people call it

00:23:05.080 more colloquially

00:23:05.920 and he said

00:23:07.440 you know

00:23:07.820 even that's not necessary

00:23:08.920 it's a last resort.

00:23:10.240 So nowhere has the idea

00:23:11.980 of more government power

00:23:13.600 been put forward

00:23:15.080 as being somewhat essential.

00:23:17.760 So when this comes

00:23:19.160 it is not just a blindside

00:23:20.720 to the conservatives

00:23:22.080 and to the NDP

00:23:22.960 and to the Bloc Québécois

00:23:24.020 and to the Greens

00:23:25.280 and I mean the PPC

00:23:26.220 aren't in Parliament

00:23:26.980 but they're still part

00:23:27.860 of the political process

00:23:29.060 it is a complete

00:23:31.080 pulling of the rug

00:23:32.820 out from every Canadian

00:23:34.820 from under every Canadian 0.71

00:23:36.580 because these are not

00:23:38.240 the discussions

00:23:39.020 that were advanced

00:23:39.900 these are not the ways

00:23:41.080 that the government said

00:23:42.100 we are going to help you.

00:23:43.620 So I'm glad

00:23:46.440 that this has been

00:23:47.640 for this particular point

00:23:49.560 put to rest

00:23:51.000 but we can't neglect

00:23:53.840 to accept

00:23:55.180 that we're talking

00:23:56.540 about a government

00:23:57.240 that did it in the first place

00:23:58.800 and will potentially

00:24:00.360 try to claim power

00:24:01.940 or seize power

00:24:02.860 in such a way

00:24:03.600 in the future

00:24:04.680 especially as this crisis

00:24:06.320 looks like one 0.66

00:24:07.180 that we might be in

00:24:08.580 for a little while.

00:24:09.620 We had the

00:24:10.200 World Health Organization

00:24:11.680 yesterday say

00:24:12.480 the United States

00:24:13.400 is going to be

00:24:14.060 the new epicenter

00:24:14.960 of this

00:24:15.460 we have the largest

00:24:16.700 unprotected border

00:24:17.740 in the world

00:24:18.420 with the US

00:24:19.220 which means

00:24:20.280 even with the border

00:24:21.220 restrictions

00:24:21.800 that have been put in place

00:24:23.140 the exemptions

00:24:24.500 for trade

00:24:25.120 and family

00:24:25.720 and other things

00:24:26.460 are probably

00:24:28.000 going to make it

00:24:28.900 so that some of that

00:24:30.220 will spill over

00:24:31.020 into Canada.

00:24:32.000 You had another

00:24:32.960 World Health Organization

00:24:34.260 official say

00:24:34.920 that we could be

00:24:35.460 looking at eight months

00:24:36.680 required to eradicate this

00:24:38.840 eight months

00:24:39.380 of social distancing.

00:24:40.380 Now will it be

00:24:41.620 eight months

00:24:42.240 looking like

00:24:42.960 what we're in the midst

00:24:43.780 of right now

00:24:44.560 or will it be

00:24:45.500 eight months

00:24:46.020 of something

00:24:47.000 a lot more

00:24:47.640 pared down

00:24:48.400 and manageable

00:24:49.200 perhaps more

00:24:50.400 regionally contained

00:24:51.400 we don't know

00:24:52.180 but if this crisis

00:24:54.120 is going to last

00:24:55.100 for weeks

00:24:55.700 and potentially months

00:24:57.100 we have to be

00:24:58.400 on guard

00:24:58.920 that the government

00:24:59.600 is not going to

00:25:00.460 use it

00:25:01.020 as an excuse

00:25:02.360 to railroad in

00:25:04.800 all of the things

00:25:06.300 that it wants

00:25:07.040 to railroad in

00:25:08.260 but couldn't

00:25:09.340 without there being

00:25:10.360 a crisis

00:25:11.140 as the backdrop

00:25:12.260 and it goes back

00:25:14.360 to that line

00:25:15.020 I used at the beginning

00:25:15.920 from Rahm Emanuel

00:25:16.840 of never let a crisis

00:25:18.140 go to waste

00:25:18.780 it goes back

00:25:19.480 to every single

00:25:21.000 decision the government

00:25:22.220 has made

00:25:22.920 that threatens

00:25:23.840 civil liberties

00:25:24.560 and I think I said

00:25:25.600 this on Monday's show

00:25:26.740 but it bears repeating now

00:25:28.080 that while there are

00:25:29.700 things that need

00:25:30.460 to be done

00:25:31.140 that are urgent

00:25:32.260 and imminent

00:25:32.940 and might rub you

00:25:34.180 the wrong way

00:25:35.060 under any other

00:25:35.960 circumstances

00:25:36.740 if such a thing

00:25:38.260 happens now

00:25:39.100 you better make

00:25:40.300 darn sure

00:25:41.060 that it isn't

00:25:41.780 permanent

00:25:42.220 that crisis measures

00:25:44.620 do not outlive

00:25:46.020 the crisis itself

00:25:47.240 that has to be

00:25:48.280 the priority here

00:25:49.320 because if it's not

00:25:50.580 Canada turns into 0.89

00:25:51.760 exactly like

00:25:52.640 the basic dictatorship

00:25:54.760 that Trudeau

00:25:55.540 years ago

00:25:56.260 lauded from China

00:25:57.480 which gets put

00:25:58.600 into a heck of a lot

00:25:59.560 more of a scary

00:26:00.760 context when you see

00:26:01.880 what the liberals

00:26:02.440 tried to do this week

00:26:03.560 which is basically

00:26:04.700 give Trudeau

00:26:05.600 complete executive

00:26:06.880 authority

00:26:07.560 on the country's

00:26:09.280 finances

00:26:09.880 which is the way

00:26:11.220 that the country

00:26:11.980 could really be

00:26:13.020 handcuffed

00:26:13.900 by the government

00:26:14.880 I mean right now

00:26:16.280 it is March 25th

00:26:17.740 in exactly one week

00:26:19.500 the federal carbon tax

00:26:21.460 is going into place

00:26:22.340 and the government's

00:26:23.240 not backing away

00:26:24.120 on the carbon tax

00:26:25.120 by the way

00:26:25.580 the government

00:26:27.100 that says

00:26:27.620 it has our back

00:26:28.800 and it's helping us

00:26:29.660 and it realizes

00:26:30.420 there's a grave

00:26:31.380 financial burden

00:26:32.360 the government

00:26:33.240 is not stopping

00:26:34.580 the carbon tax

00:26:35.540 increase of 50%

00:26:37.500 from going into effect

00:26:39.280 because it still

00:26:40.180 buys into this

00:26:41.280 it still buys into it

00:26:43.120 and the irony is

00:26:44.000 gas prices

00:26:44.700 are at a low point

00:26:46.600 for I don't know

00:26:47.600 how long

00:26:48.100 but a major

00:26:48.960 multi-year low point

00:26:50.140 right now

00:26:50.700 you also have the fact

00:26:52.440 that no one can go

00:26:53.480 anywhere

00:26:53.820 you can't fly

00:26:54.800 you can't drive

00:26:55.720 you can't do much

00:26:56.720 goods are being shipped

00:26:58.360 but

00:26:58.700 at the same time

00:27:00.620 there is not

00:27:02.000 a huge influx

00:27:03.560 of transport

00:27:04.960 beyond the normal

00:27:06.380 transport

00:27:07.060 so

00:27:07.900 you know

00:27:09.000 the need for a carbon tax

00:27:10.660 right now

00:27:11.340 is kind of minimal

00:27:12.920 and look

00:27:13.900 I want to pull up

00:27:14.680 a couple of stories

00:27:15.560 that I find are hilarious

00:27:17.280 and you get people

00:27:18.520 that are just so

00:27:20.460 they hold such contempt

00:27:23.480 for the human race

00:27:25.120 oh yeah

00:27:26.060 this was the one

00:27:26.640 that I liked

00:27:27.160 it was a letter

00:27:27.640 to the editor

00:27:28.180 in the LA Times

00:27:28.940 not the one

00:27:29.340 I was thinking of

00:27:30.020 but the sense is true

00:27:30.980 coronavirus offers

00:27:32.640 a once in a lifetime

00:27:33.820 opportunity

00:27:34.660 on climate change

00:27:36.020 it was

00:27:37.100 the unintended consequence

00:27:38.860 that is supremely positive

00:27:40.320 because now we can tackle

00:27:42.340 greenhouse gas emissions

00:27:43.520 in a way that no one

00:27:44.700 could have done before

00:27:46.020 and this was in response

00:27:47.160 to the one that I was

00:27:48.040 thinking of

00:27:48.600 an op-ed

00:27:49.700 in the LA Times

00:27:51.120 called

00:27:51.660 coronavirus has something

00:27:52.820 to teach us

00:27:53.500 about how to save the planet

00:27:54.860 by staying put

00:27:56.300 so

00:27:57.060 you know

00:27:57.540 I saw Prince Charles

00:27:58.500 as well

00:27:59.020 the Duke of Cornwall

00:28:00.520 has a coronavirus

00:28:01.700 you know what

00:28:02.960 whatever I may think

00:28:04.520 of him politically

00:28:05.160 I don't wish this

00:28:06.340 on anyone

00:28:07.080 certainly people

00:28:07.880 of his age

00:28:08.580 but it is interesting

00:28:10.740 people like Prince Charles

00:28:12.000 and Leo DiCaprio

00:28:13.180 and Joaquin Phoenix

00:28:14.740 are telling us

00:28:15.460 that we need to

00:28:16.340 no longer eat meat

00:28:17.540 we shouldn't be able

00:28:18.260 to travel

00:28:18.780 we shouldn't go anywhere

00:28:20.060 we shouldn't do anything

00:28:21.220 that we should basically

00:28:22.520 just sit on our hands

00:28:23.680 as though we were pioneers

00:28:25.320 and just live that way

00:28:28.080 despite you know

00:28:28.880 the emissions of candlelight

00:28:30.080 so maybe we don't even

00:28:31.140 get the candles

00:28:31.800 but you get all of these

00:28:33.140 alarmists that would love

00:28:34.400 for us to just

00:28:35.220 completely live

00:28:36.340 in the dark ages

00:28:37.440 this is what Earth Hour

00:28:39.180 is all about every year

00:28:40.340 and I don't know

00:28:41.100 are we doing

00:28:41.480 Earth Hour is coming up

00:28:42.700 isn't it?

00:28:43.460 I mean

00:28:43.660 the whole world

00:28:44.480 is doing Earth Hour

00:28:45.420 for multiple weeks now

00:28:47.140 so I don't know

00:28:47.800 if we're officially

00:28:48.820 doing Earth Hour

00:28:49.660 anymore

00:28:50.200 but these people

00:28:51.320 want us to live

00:28:52.060 in the dark ages

00:28:52.820 and now you have

00:28:54.460 COVID-19

00:28:55.160 which is actually

00:28:56.420 forcing you

00:28:57.480 to regress

00:28:58.460 the quarantine mentality

00:28:59.800 is forcing us

00:29:00.800 to as a society

00:29:02.140 regress

00:29:02.660 and this is

00:29:03.560 they love this

00:29:04.520 that's the problem

00:29:05.600 is that a lot of them

00:29:06.440 love this

00:29:06.880 they say oh man

00:29:07.480 this is what we need

00:29:08.840 to do for climate change

00:29:10.360 there were people

00:29:11.420 talking about

00:29:12.080 how the canals

00:29:12.840 in Venice

00:29:13.340 are so much cleaner now

00:29:14.640 which yes

00:29:15.460 may be great

00:29:16.160 if you're a marine biologist

00:29:17.460 but if they're greater

00:29:19.120 because of a disease

00:29:20.380 that is killing people

00:29:21.720 I don't think

00:29:22.940 we can call this

00:29:23.820 a net positive

00:29:24.760 or China's emissions

00:29:26.660 went down for a bit

00:29:27.880 because no one

00:29:28.660 was able to go

00:29:29.180 to the factories

00:29:29.800 when Wuhan

00:29:30.460 was on lockdown

00:29:32.000 so again

00:29:32.580 people were cheering this

00:29:34.040 we should not

00:29:35.520 be cheering this

00:29:36.540 I mean this

00:29:36.960 Malthusian

00:29:37.880 anti-human

00:29:39.100 approach to the world

00:29:40.540 is causing some people

00:29:42.280 not to celebrate

00:29:43.320 COVID-19 necessarily

00:29:45.040 I mean in some cases

00:29:46.300 though

00:29:46.500 to try to find

00:29:47.440 the silver lining

00:29:48.240 of like

00:29:48.640 hey you know

00:29:49.180 your life is miserable now

00:29:50.300 but if you keep this up

00:29:51.260 we might be able

00:29:52.040 to save the planet

00:29:52.920 I mean Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

00:29:56.080 must have some

00:29:56.720 very good minders

00:29:57.920 that are keeping her 0.82

00:29:59.040 from doing this

00:29:59.900 and incidentally

00:30:01.180 she's been you know

00:30:02.140 crusading against Amazon

00:30:03.480 for the last

00:30:04.280 however many months

00:30:05.140 I have no idea

00:30:05.860 and I noticed that

00:30:06.980 on her Twitter feed

00:30:07.820 which I actually looked

00:30:09.120 talk about doing

00:30:09.760 the hard work

00:30:10.420 I went through

00:30:11.040 AOC's Twitter feed

00:30:12.220 yesterday

00:30:12.620 and I noticed

00:30:13.760 she's been very silent

00:30:14.880 on Amazon

00:30:15.820 in the last couple of weeks

00:30:17.620 given that Amazon

00:30:18.780 is now like

00:30:19.960 the one thing

00:30:20.820 preventing the world

00:30:22.120 from going into

00:30:22.800 total collapse

00:30:23.880 and a food shortage

00:30:25.520 and you know

00:30:26.620 supply shortages

00:30:27.820 because Amazon

00:30:28.860 is actually getting

00:30:29.840 products to people

00:30:30.820 who can't leave

00:30:31.540 their homes

00:30:32.140 so all of the

00:30:33.460 anti-Amazon rhetoric

00:30:35.120 from the American left

00:30:36.200 seems to have been

00:30:36.960 put on the

00:30:37.740 back burner

00:30:38.700 for the time being

00:30:39.640 which I think

00:30:40.220 is a bit of a positive

00:30:41.520 but the point of this

00:30:44.020 is that

00:30:44.980 we are not going

00:30:46.620 to get through this

00:30:48.060 and say

00:30:49.060 oh you know what

00:30:49.880 I miss this

00:30:51.460 if we get through it

00:30:53.160 and I think we can

00:30:54.100 humans are resilient

00:30:55.100 Canadians

00:30:55.660 Americans are resilient

00:30:56.840 we're not going to

00:30:58.360 long for the days

00:30:59.900 of quarantine

00:31:01.200 and this is something

00:31:03.060 that all of the people

00:31:04.120 trying to make this

00:31:05.020 into an environmental fight

00:31:06.460 I think are very much

00:31:08.140 off base on

00:31:09.220 and that's something

00:31:09.860 that we'll see

00:31:10.420 I want to do

00:31:11.360 a little bit of an update

00:31:12.680 on the conservative

00:31:13.680 leadership race

00:31:14.520 when we come back

00:31:15.260 in just a couple

00:31:16.280 of moments

00:31:16.700 you're tuned in

00:31:17.300 to the Andrew Lawton

00:31:18.440 Show

00:31:18.660 here on True North

00:31:19.680 you're tuned in

00:31:21.820 to the Andrew Lawton

00:31:23.000 Show

00:31:23.380 welcome back

00:31:29.440 I mentioned briefly

00:31:30.720 on the show

00:31:31.600 on Monday

00:31:32.340 that Jim Carajalios

00:31:34.320 who was running

00:31:35.200 for the conservative

00:31:35.940 leadership

00:31:36.540 had been disqualified

00:31:37.860 and I wanted to give

00:31:39.920 a bit of an update

00:31:40.820 on that

00:31:41.300 now for starters

00:31:42.340 the party

00:31:42.920 it seems like

00:31:43.540 is still not budging

00:31:44.700 on the leadership

00:31:46.700 cut off

00:31:47.460 of March 25th

00:31:48.840 and I mentioned this

00:31:50.520 because I was hoping

00:31:52.060 that what I had talked

00:31:53.060 about on the last episode

00:31:54.500 would be outdated

00:31:55.800 by the time the show

00:31:56.860 was released

00:31:57.680 and it was

00:31:58.480 it was outdated

00:31:59.760 not for the conservative

00:32:00.780 leadership stuff

00:32:01.740 but for the Olympics

00:32:02.780 because I mentioned

00:32:03.820 the Olympics might be cancelled

00:32:05.040 and then like

00:32:06.180 10 minutes after

00:32:06.980 I finished recording

00:32:07.760 the Olympics were cancelled

00:32:08.840 but the leadership one

00:32:10.600 was the one

00:32:11.080 that I had said

00:32:11.760 I hope it is outdated

00:32:13.440 and the party

00:32:15.240 still not budging

00:32:16.060 on this

00:32:16.520 Jim Carajalios

00:32:17.860 is suing the conservatives

00:32:19.560 now I don't know

00:32:20.320 how easy it is

00:32:21.380 right now

00:32:21.800 with courts

00:32:22.400 that have essentially

00:32:23.600 shut down

00:32:24.320 but the Ontario

00:32:25.840 Superior Court

00:32:26.840 of Justice

00:32:27.480 approved a request

00:32:28.820 from Jim Carajalios

00:32:29.980 to consider

00:32:31.220 a notice of application

00:32:32.580 seeking a declaration

00:32:33.960 that his disqualification

00:32:36.240 from the conservative

00:32:37.500 leadership race

00:32:38.420 was invalid

00:32:39.560 what Carajalios

00:32:41.860 says in a press release

00:32:43.540 is that

00:32:43.900 five appointed

00:32:44.980 and unelected

00:32:45.980 individuals

00:32:46.500 have attempted

00:32:47.400 to hijack democracy

00:32:49.120 by removing my name

00:32:50.660 from the ballot

00:32:51.240 in the conservative

00:32:52.020 leadership race

00:32:52.940 under the party's

00:32:54.240 constitution

00:32:54.780 and the leadership

00:32:55.840 rules

00:32:56.320 these individuals

00:32:57.580 neither had the grounds

00:32:59.160 nor the authority

00:33:00.200 to disqualify me

00:33:01.340 their decision

00:33:02.560 was politically motivated

00:33:03.940 as my candidacy

00:33:05.240 was increasingly

00:33:06.180 becoming a threat

00:33:07.860 to stop the red Tory coronation

00:33:10.080 of Aaron O'Toole

00:33:11.320 or Peter McKay

00:33:12.460 now in this application

00:33:14.380 which I have not seen

00:33:15.780 but I've seen

00:33:16.740 a version

00:33:18.100 or I've seen

00:33:18.960 an excerpt of it

00:33:20.000 that was sent out

00:33:21.000 by Jim Carajalios' team

00:33:22.940 in a press release

00:33:24.360 he says that

00:33:26.060 it basically

00:33:27.080 is a breach of contract

00:33:28.520 on the part of the party

00:33:29.520 they disqualified him

00:33:31.040 in bad faith

00:33:31.780 it was unlawful

00:33:33.080 because he didn't

00:33:33.760 violate any of the rules

00:33:34.920 and it offended

00:33:36.100 the principles

00:33:36.840 of natural justice

00:33:38.320 and procedural fairness

00:33:39.780 now I'm not a lawyer

00:33:41.520 so I'm not going to get into

00:33:42.700 the legality of this

00:33:44.220 now Carajalios

00:33:45.400 for his part

00:33:46.040 is a lawyer

00:33:46.760 but the interesting thing

00:33:48.880 is that

00:33:49.540 what I have learned

00:33:50.800 especially through

00:33:51.580 the course of

00:33:52.440 our fight

00:33:53.320 at True North

00:33:54.020 against the

00:33:54.680 Leaders Debates Commission

00:33:55.780 is that

00:33:56.340 you can't do things

00:33:57.740 arbitrarily

00:33:58.580 and even though

00:33:59.440 a political party

00:34:00.360 is not

00:34:01.500 a government agency

00:34:03.320 clearly

00:34:03.820 because the liberals

00:34:04.760 were banning me

00:34:05.920 from their campaign

00:34:06.720 and there really

00:34:07.680 wasn't anything

00:34:08.400 that I could do

00:34:09.380 about it

00:34:09.880 political party elections

00:34:11.900 which including

00:34:13.020 a leadership election

00:34:14.100 is still subject

00:34:15.560 to Elections Canada

00:34:16.840 so there is

00:34:17.520 federal oversight

00:34:18.620 and more importantly

00:34:20.340 there is a requirement

00:34:21.660 to uphold the contract

00:34:23.780 so I've read the rules

00:34:25.500 of the leadership race

00:34:26.840 not exactly

00:34:27.840 stellar or interesting reading

00:34:29.960 but significant reading

00:34:31.580 and the one thing

00:34:33.020 that comes up

00:34:33.620 is that

00:34:33.960 it's very

00:34:34.880 scant on detail

00:34:36.280 about disqualification

00:34:37.620 after someone

00:34:39.000 has been approved

00:34:39.860 in which case

00:34:40.620 Carajalios

00:34:41.480 who was approved

00:34:42.520 as an applicant

00:34:43.400 was later disqualified

00:34:45.440 and that process

00:34:46.560 is not spelled out

00:34:47.600 so he may have a case

00:34:48.980 or he may not

00:34:49.900 but that seems to be

00:34:51.260 really what he's

00:34:52.140 seizing

00:34:52.820 that something

00:34:53.680 happened

00:34:54.580 from an organ

00:34:55.620 of the leadership process

00:34:57.320 that really had

00:34:58.520 no jurisdiction

00:34:59.400 and no basis

00:35:00.280 and no authority

00:35:01.520 to make that decision

00:35:02.940 now I've talked to Jim

00:35:04.580 about doing an interview

00:35:05.680 we were originally

00:35:06.420 going to do one

00:35:07.220 when I was sitting down

00:35:08.380 with leadership candidates

00:35:09.440 and then we were hoping

00:35:10.880 to touch base

00:35:11.840 about this particular

00:35:13.420 legal action here

00:35:14.560 but as it so happened

00:35:16.080 just with everything going on

00:35:17.360 we didn't have time

00:35:18.120 to set it up

00:35:18.700 for this show

00:35:19.180 so for people saying

00:35:20.740 you know

00:35:21.080 are you going to talk to him

00:35:21.900 yes the invitations

00:35:23.140 out there

00:35:23.700 might not be until next week

00:35:25.320 I told him that

00:35:26.360 you know we're in the midst

00:35:27.200 of really heavy

00:35:28.560 knee-deep COVID-19 coverage

00:35:30.800 and he was understandable

00:35:32.480 of that

00:35:32.960 so we'll have more on that

00:35:34.740 as it devolves

00:35:35.840 or evolves

00:35:36.600 such as the case may be

00:35:37.960 in future shows

00:35:39.660 in the meantime

00:35:40.640 my thanks to all of you

00:35:42.360 for tuning in to the show

00:35:43.760 we'll be back next week

00:35:44.820 but do tune in to

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00:35:49.300 and myself

00:35:49.800 with just the headlines

00:35:51.660 of COVID-19

00:35:52.860 so that's where you can find

00:35:54.560 the news

00:35:55.160 without as much

00:35:55.940 of the commentary

00:35:56.520 and if you like

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00:36:03.340 thank you

00:36:03.800 God bless

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Juno News - March 25, 2020

The Andrew Lawton Show： Pandemic Power Grab

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