Juno News - March 25, 2020


The Andrew Lawton Show： Pandemic Power Grab


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36 minutes

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173.87863

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6,298

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193

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Welcome to Canada's Most Irreverent Talk Show.
00:00:06.660 This is the Andrew Lawton Show, brought to you by True North.
00:00:12.740 Coming up, exposing Justin Trudeau's pandemic power grab.
00:00:16.620 Also, Jim Carajalios suing the Conservative Party for disqualifying him from the leadership race.
00:00:24.640 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.
00:00:30.000 What was it that Rahm Emanuel said never let a crisis go to waste?
00:00:35.600 That certainly looks like something Justin Trudeau has taken to heart.
00:00:39.380 Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show.
00:00:41.740 Continuing our running stream of pandemic editions of the program here.
00:00:46.320 And talking in this case about the intersection of COVID-19 with Canadian politics.
00:00:53.400 And how something that should never have been about politics has been politicized to the nth degree.
00:01:00.000 By Justin Trudeau.
00:01:02.160 Now, I want to give a few different examples of how we got here.
00:01:06.480 And why it's so damaging that we have.
00:01:09.160 Because for the last couple of weeks, I actually said in the previous edition of this program, for example.
00:01:14.320 That Justin Trudeau has been a very capable and consistent communicator.
00:01:18.680 And I was prefacing that by saying that I don't necessarily endorse all of the policy decisions.
00:01:24.220 Clearly, I've criticized several of them.
00:01:26.700 But he's been available.
00:01:28.000 He's been speaking.
00:01:28.960 And you know what?
00:01:29.440 I think there is a role for the Prime Minister of Canada, whomever it is, to be a unifying figure in times of crisis.
00:01:37.780 And I think that the opposition parties understood that.
00:01:41.140 Which is why the Conservatives have not been relentlessly criticizing Justin Trudeau.
00:01:45.640 Why Jagmeet Singh has not been doing it.
00:01:47.920 Why the opposition parties all basically said, all right, we're going to take a backseat here.
00:01:52.980 And let the Prime Minister of Canada, the Office of Prime Minister, be the head of government.
00:01:58.460 The person leading Canadians through this.
00:02:00.660 Now, that goodwill that I think Justin Trudeau was getting from the opposition evaporated on Monday night when the Liberals tried to sneak in legislation that would give them unfettered taxing and spending power without parliamentary approval until December of 2021.
00:02:20.140 So almost two years from now, at which point, and I said this in another show with Candace Malcolm yesterday, if we are still dealing with COVID-19 by December 2021, there are bigger problems than Canada's fiscal situation.
00:02:34.620 So all of this is to say that we are looking at a pandemic power grab.
00:02:40.120 A COVID-19, can we call it, coronavirus, an attempt at subverting the parliamentary process, subverting democracy, all in the name of crisis management.
00:02:53.580 Now, I agree that governments need to be able to act quickly when there is a crisis.
00:02:57.960 I agree that governments need to be able to move swiftly, to make tough calls, and to not go through the extended and prolonged bureaucracy.
00:03:06.860 But you can still do things in a democratic way.
00:03:10.120 So this initial bill that the Liberals put forward now had a section in it that would have given the finance minister, Bill Morneau, the complete power to levy taxes, to spend whatever he wants, all without parliamentary approval, and again, until December 2021.
00:03:27.900 Now, this will happen in a way that would have just completely destroyed or left the potential for the Canadian economy to be obliterated because all of a sudden there's no check and balance in Parliament.
00:03:43.240 So this was going to be tabled, and the whole point of it was the Liberals were saying they wanted unanimous consent.
00:03:51.640 All the parties agreed to send a little delegation for a total of 32 out of 338 MPs, and they were all going to be MPs that could drive to Parliament Hill,
00:04:01.180 and they were going to just agree because it was important to get the money out the door.
00:04:06.040 The $82 billion that Justin Trudeau promised to Canadians in aid, in tax deferral, in relief programs last week,
00:04:13.200 that was what was supposed to be in this bill.
00:04:16.880 But instead, it is a power grab.
00:04:20.200 The bill was going to be manifesting itself not as an $82 billion relief package, but as an attempt for the Government of Canada to hold a COVID-19, a coronavirus.
00:04:32.680 I don't know which one we're going with yet, but a pandemic power grab very much.
00:04:37.280 And look, I'm glad that the government backed away on this.
00:04:41.460 And we heard the next morning after news of this broke,
00:04:44.660 Justin Trudeau tweeted that it was going to be put forward without, I think it was, Clause 2.
00:04:50.220 And Pablo Rodriguez, who's the Liberal government's House leader, said very similarly,
00:04:54.680 we've listened, we've consulted, this is what democracy is all about,
00:04:58.440 and we are going to engage with the Conservatives and find a way through.
00:05:02.940 So, yes, you can say power to you, you can give them a gold star for that,
00:05:07.640 but it doesn't address the two fundamental questions of, A, why was that provision there in the first place?
00:05:15.040 And B, what did you think was going to happen?
00:05:18.800 So, I don't know if they hoped that no one would notice,
00:05:22.060 or if they thought that the climate would be such that the Conservatives would have to go along with it
00:05:27.200 because we're in the middle of a crisis.
00:05:29.120 The Conservatives didn't take the bait, and they risked, as you saw from the media narrative,
00:05:35.000 being accused of holding up essential aid,
00:05:37.720 when in actuality, the Conservatives were just holding up what was going to be
00:05:41.880 a liberal exploitation of a crisis.
00:05:45.500 Now, take a look at this tweet from CTV's Don Martin,
00:05:48.940 which I think really encapsulates why the media's problems here are so ubiquitous.
00:05:54.020 He said,
00:05:55.000 Now, this is a National News Watch piece that says,
00:06:10.840 So, the media was trying to frame the Conservatives as being the bad guys here.
00:06:25.780 They were trying to make it out that Justin Trudeau was the savior coming in with his $82 billion,
00:06:30.340 and, oh, those penny-pinching Conservatives don't want the people to get the essential help they need.
00:06:36.340 But this was not what was agreed to.
00:06:39.900 And Andrew Scheer, who I know is on his way out as leader of the Conservative Party of Canada,
00:06:45.240 I thought was very solid in this.
00:06:47.000 He said,
00:06:47.240 Look, there's a very easy way to do this.
00:06:50.000 Just pass the bill that you were talking about last week.
00:06:54.140 Pass the bill that you promised.
00:06:56.120 Pass the bill that you told Canadians you were going to pass.
00:06:58.940 Put that forward, and we will all vote for it.
00:07:01.780 You'll get your unanimous consent.
00:07:03.680 But that's not what the Liberals tried to do at this emergency session of the House of Commons.
00:07:09.500 Instead, the Liberals decided they were going to go and try to basically run the table,
00:07:15.240 not just during this crisis, but for the next year and three quarters or so.
00:07:21.360 So the Conservatives have now claimed victory.
00:07:24.080 What happened was the parliamentary session met Tuesday at about noon,
00:07:28.240 and less than five minutes later, it was suspended because Pablo Rodriguez said
00:07:33.420 all of the parties were going to go and negotiate behind closed doors
00:07:37.520 to basically get a version of the bill that they were all going to be on board with,
00:07:42.100 that they would all be able to pass and offer that unanimous consent to.
00:07:47.020 And I have a lot of questions about this.
00:07:49.340 I mean, for starters, and I asked why the Liberals thought this would fly in the first place,
00:07:54.580 a part of me thinks they were trying to get the Conservatives to vote against it.
00:08:00.520 Because I already see how the narrative is shaping up in the media, like I just mentioned.
00:08:04.620 So I think that the Liberals wanted to put a bill forward that has all of the $82 billion stuff,
00:08:11.240 but also had additional government powers that they knew the Conservatives would resist,
00:08:16.420 just so that they could get the Conservatives to vote against it,
00:08:20.220 and then say, oh, look at those Conservatives.
00:08:22.780 Look at those Conservatives holding up the essential work that the government is trying to do.
00:08:27.040 This is why we need all of these powers.
00:08:29.440 Because, you know, if you go through Parliament, all these people with their democracy and,
00:08:34.080 you know, their checks and balances and their accountability,
00:08:36.920 they'll just hold it up and not let us do what we want to do,
00:08:39.740 which was, you know, kind of the benefit of not living in a dictatorship.
00:08:43.960 So yeah, you can have quick, prompt action that doesn't subvert Parliament.
00:08:50.200 And I think what Andrew Scheer was saying yesterday is that this is
00:08:53.180 precisely the point of this emergency session yesterday.
00:08:55.960 You proved that you can have Parliament, it can function in a pandemic situation,
00:09:01.320 by having a limited number of MPs, by working together, by doing all of these things.
00:09:06.040 But you need to have honest brokers, and you need to have people operating in good faith.
00:09:12.460 And I have no doubt in my mind that the Liberals were not operating in good faith
00:09:17.560 when it came to putting this draft bill forward Monday night.
00:09:21.260 Now, the bill has now passed.
00:09:22.860 The Conservatives have claimed victory on it, but I'll talk about that in a moment.
00:09:27.000 I want to share a little snippet of a press conference that Andrew Scheer did Tuesday morning.
00:09:32.300 And like I said, I mean, Scheer was fantastic through this
00:09:35.600 and acknowledged that the Conservatives were pretty blindsided.
00:09:39.100 They wanted to have a clean bill.
00:09:42.160 They wanted to have a bill that just shipped out the aid that Justin Trudeau had promised.
00:09:47.260 And instead, they got one that was essentially calling for parliamentary authority
00:09:52.680 to turn Justin Trudeau and his cabinet into a little oligarchy of sorts.
00:09:58.720 And this is what Andrew Scheer said, because I actually was at the teleconference version
00:10:02.780 of that press conference, and I asked Andrew Scheer a couple of questions about it,
00:10:06.640 because he was resistant to the idea for obvious reasons of giving Trudeau what Andrew Scheer
00:10:13.040 called a blank check.
00:10:14.880 But the flip side of that is if you're saying to the government,
00:10:18.040 yeah, we'll give you all the things you ask for, how is that different than a blank check?
00:10:22.320 At what point is it no longer a point where you are supporting what the government is asking for?
00:10:29.540 And this is the brief exchange that Andrew Scheer and I had Tuesday morning at his press conference.
00:10:34.220 Good morning, Mr. Scheer.
00:10:36.200 My first question is regarding the dollar amount.
00:10:39.900 So right now it's $82 billion.
00:10:41.820 You've noted these are unprecedented times.
00:10:44.900 Is this, in your view, something where you just have to give the government whatever it asks for,
00:10:50.500 or is there a limit where you and the Conservatives are going to say,
00:10:53.000 listen, I mean, I think you're going too far here?
00:10:55.900 We're going to be focused on the nature of the programs that are designed.
00:10:58.920 We recognize that it's going to require a lot of government resources to help people through this difficult time.
00:11:06.080 And so we're going to be focusing in these early days to make sure that the programs are designed in a way
00:11:10.440 that will actually reach people, that nobody falls through the cracks,
00:11:14.100 that when we can identify a gap in how they've designed something, that they're able to address that.
00:11:20.940 That's our mindset right now.
00:11:22.600 So, you know, we know that we're entering into this period with already carrying massive deficits from years before.
00:11:31.100 This is one of the reasons, you know, we have always called for fiscal responsibility while times are good
00:11:35.740 so that we're in a better position when a crisis hits or when a downturn presents itself.
00:11:41.760 That being said, we believe in this period of time, while Canadians are focused on, you know,
00:11:47.500 worried about how they're going to pay their rent, worried about how they're going to pay their groceries,
00:11:50.680 that that needs to be the primary focus.
00:11:53.060 And that's exactly why we're here today, to make sure that this package of assistance gets passed.
00:12:00.240 And as a follow-up, you were very critical, of course, of the previous draft of the legislation
00:12:06.140 the Liberals planned to table today, which would have given reportedly unfettered taxing and spending power.
00:12:12.220 Can you rule out the possibility that you would vote against a confidence motion
00:12:16.860 or a bill that was implicitly a confidence motion during this crisis?
00:12:21.240 Well, look, I think this is a period of time where all parties are willing to put aside their partisan differences
00:12:26.360 and focus on helping Canadians, putting them first.
00:12:29.300 I don't think Canadians want to see partisan divisions, partisan disagreements.
00:12:37.860 This should be an opportunity for parliamentarians from all parties to come together
00:12:42.160 to pass the measures that the government announced.
00:12:44.140 I believe it's very simple, actually.
00:12:46.480 Justin Trudeau announced a number of measures last week.
00:12:50.420 We're here to support them.
00:12:51.660 If he believes that there are new measures that are required,
00:12:54.380 we are willing to come back and play our role in providing the parliamentary oversight to do exactly that.
00:13:01.180 So we'll see.
00:13:02.540 We'll wait and see exactly what the government proposes this afternoon.
00:13:06.040 Our hope is that they will stay focused on providing assistance to Canadians,
00:13:10.520 not focused on a power grab, not focused on giving themselves unprecedented new powers.
00:13:17.000 We can be here in 48 hours' notice to do exactly what we're doing today,
00:13:22.340 to pass measures to provide that assistance to Canadians.
00:13:25.180 I believe that we've shown that good faith.
00:13:28.080 We agreed to the adjournment a few weeks ago.
00:13:30.640 We agreed to grant flexibility to the government in terms of spending.
00:13:34.660 We agreed to come back today.
00:13:36.800 We agreed to a shorter, smaller roster to respect the public health concerns.
00:13:42.000 So I believe that parliament is functioning very well during this time
00:13:45.680 and can continue to do that in the days and weeks ahead.
00:13:49.820 Yeah, and I didn't mention it at the beginning when I was leading into that,
00:13:53.200 but as you heard in my second question, I asked him about that confidence aspect
00:13:56.880 in that any government bill is a spending bill.
00:14:00.260 So if it is going to be a spending bill, that makes it a confidence motion of sorts.
00:14:05.600 So is that an area where the Conservatives would vote against?
00:14:09.100 And Scheer was very clear.
00:14:10.400 This is not about partisanship.
00:14:11.720 He just wants good policy coming out of the federal government at a time of crisis for Canada.
00:14:17.820 So this is, I think, a very important dynamic that we have here.
00:14:22.760 So what happened is after the House of Commons had suspended, hours later,
00:14:28.800 I mean, I was following, I had CPAC on in my living room at home being in quarantine,
00:14:34.060 and I was trying to watch to see when they were sitting down again.
00:14:37.640 And at a certain point, I just assumed the screen had frozen
00:14:40.460 because it got to, like, the point where I'm eating dinner at 7 p.m.
00:14:44.760 and it's still suspended by, I don't know if we can put the graphic up,
00:14:48.800 but suspended by direction of the chair or something like that.
00:14:51.740 And then, you know, after dinner, suspended by direction of the chair.
00:14:55.000 And then, you know, bedtime at 11 p.m.
00:14:57.220 and it's suspended by direction of the chair.
00:14:59.640 So I'm like, all right, well, I guess, you know, I'll go to bed and wake up
00:15:03.000 and maybe it'll still be suspended by direction of the chair.
00:15:05.700 Now, as it so happened, by the time I woke up,
00:15:08.580 they had just passed or were in the process of passing the legislation.
00:15:13.760 So by the time Wednesday morning came around,
00:15:16.280 the bill had been passed and the Conservatives had stripped away,
00:15:20.920 in their words, all of the contentious sections of this.
00:15:23.980 So I'll pull up a release that was sent out
00:15:25.980 by the Conservative Party of Canada this morning.
00:15:29.240 They said they were able to get the government to remove the section
00:15:32.860 that would have allowed them to raise taxes without parliamentary approval,
00:15:36.160 to walk back unlimited spending powers and make special warrants expire
00:15:41.140 in June instead of September,
00:15:43.780 to demand government include explicit reference to putting taxpayers' rights first,
00:15:49.680 to put sunset clauses in the legislation,
00:15:52.900 and to demand accountability through Parliament
00:15:55.940 by virtue of reports to the Health and Finance Committees,
00:15:59.460 and also that the Finance Committee would have the right to recall Parliament
00:16:03.340 if abuses are identified.
00:16:05.400 Now, this is important because the Finance Committee
00:16:07.640 is opposition-controlled,
00:16:10.180 like all committees are,
00:16:11.580 because it's a minority situation.
00:16:13.660 So the Finance Committee could convene on its own
00:16:16.580 and force the House of Commons to a recall.
00:16:19.700 So I think that's pretty much the nerdiest section of this,
00:16:23.680 as far as just political wonkery, if you will,
00:16:26.800 but in many respects the most important,
00:16:28.960 because that is the concession for which the Conservatives are claiming credit,
00:16:33.420 but that is the section that will allow for parliamentary oversight
00:16:38.340 and parliamentary accountability down the line.
00:16:41.840 So I don't want to make this about just the political process at work,
00:16:46.700 because it's about something far more fundamental
00:16:49.300 than just how the House of Commons works
00:16:52.420 and this procedural rule and that procedural rule,
00:16:55.360 and I still don't know if question period,
00:16:56.920 I mean, maybe question period happened at 4 a.m.
00:16:59.140 I have to check the PBR or something,
00:17:01.840 but it's about the impetus behind it,
00:17:04.720 because if we are to do what Justin Trudeau
00:17:07.240 has been telling us to do at his daily briefings
00:17:09.420 for the last week and a half, two weeks,
00:17:11.700 which is, you know what,
00:17:12.960 we all need to just be good Canadians
00:17:14.620 and rise together and work together.
00:17:16.840 And, you know, Justin Trudeau has used this line
00:17:19.560 pretty much every day,
00:17:21.740 which is, you know,
00:17:22.540 if you can drop groceries off for a neighbor,
00:17:24.900 if you can, you know,
00:17:26.220 stay away,
00:17:27.520 if you can, you know,
00:17:28.420 have a phone call with grandma,
00:17:30.020 if you can do all of these things
00:17:31.420 that are just nice, sweet things to do,
00:17:34.900 the country will be a better place.
00:17:36.880 And it's funny that this neighborly Canadian spirit
00:17:40.620 that he's been pontificating on
00:17:43.180 didn't extend to the way
00:17:44.620 that he decided to operate with his own colleagues.
00:17:48.920 Now, in many respects,
00:17:49.800 maybe he can just claim innocence on this,
00:17:51.860 given that he was at Rideau Cottage in isolation,
00:17:54.640 but his team,
00:17:55.660 the MPs for the Liberals
00:17:57.640 that were tasked with actually dealing with this
00:17:59.580 in the House of Commons
00:18:00.600 did not operate in good faith.
00:18:03.440 They didn't operate
00:18:04.360 in that neighborly Canadian spirit
00:18:06.860 that Justin Trudeau has been telling us
00:18:08.560 to embrace and to employ.
00:18:11.220 They tried to pull a fast one
00:18:13.420 for whatever reason.
00:18:15.940 I, you know,
00:18:16.500 there's that old saying,
00:18:17.980 never attribute to malice
00:18:20.300 what you can attribute to incompetence.
00:18:22.240 And there's also something to be said
00:18:24.060 about assuming that incompetence
00:18:25.940 and malice can sometimes go hand in hand.
00:18:28.240 I don't know which it is.
00:18:29.660 I don't know if they are just so blind
00:18:31.600 and ideological and arrogant
00:18:33.800 that they thought
00:18:35.040 that no Canadians would object
00:18:37.500 to the Liberals having unfettered
00:18:39.140 taxing and spending authority.
00:18:40.600 Maybe they just thought,
00:18:41.420 you know what,
00:18:41.760 people trust us,
00:18:42.540 people like us.
00:18:43.260 The Liberals,
00:18:44.600 you can say many things about them,
00:18:47.320 but one of the most significant factors
00:18:49.960 that I think helps the Liberals
00:18:51.680 and certainly the Liberals
00:18:52.760 under Justin Trudeau
00:18:53.820 is that they are completely
00:18:56.240 and utterly self-assured.
00:18:58.600 Now, maybe not self-aware,
00:19:00.040 but they are completely
00:19:01.120 and utterly self-assured.
00:19:02.380 Most Liberals probably think
00:19:03.640 Justin Trudeau can walk on water.
00:19:05.620 They love their leader.
00:19:06.720 They love their brand.
00:19:07.920 They are absolutely thrilled
00:19:09.800 with themselves
00:19:10.840 and they think
00:19:11.900 all other Canadians are as well.
00:19:14.820 So that I think
00:19:16.140 is how you can justify this
00:19:18.380 in some way.
00:19:19.300 But I also think
00:19:20.440 that there is a cynical attitude here
00:19:22.660 that I mentioned earlier,
00:19:24.020 which is that the Liberals
00:19:25.180 just thought
00:19:26.340 that the Conservatives
00:19:27.920 wouldn't vote against it
00:19:29.460 or they wanted them
00:19:30.540 to vote against it
00:19:31.520 so that they could turn around
00:19:32.940 and do what's happening
00:19:34.000 in the media now,
00:19:34.880 which is to say,
00:19:35.680 oh, those evil Conservatives.
00:19:38.180 So listen,
00:19:39.100 I mean, the reality is
00:19:40.120 I wanted this money
00:19:41.420 to get out the door.
00:19:42.380 I think that it would have been
00:19:43.440 easier to do
00:19:44.380 a direct disbursement
00:19:45.900 to do what's happening
00:19:46.760 in the U.S.,
00:19:47.480 which is give every Canadian
00:19:48.520 a check for whether
00:19:49.760 it's $1,000, $1,200,
00:19:51.920 whatever the amount is.
00:19:53.500 Probably cheaper
00:19:54.560 and easier to administer,
00:19:56.420 which means you save money
00:19:57.640 in the administration
00:19:58.780 of it as well,
00:20:00.540 but also more accessible
00:20:01.980 to people.
00:20:03.160 So if you are someone
00:20:05.140 who's really vulnerable,
00:20:06.460 really in need,
00:20:07.320 arguably the type of person
00:20:08.600 who is most in need
00:20:09.900 of government support,
00:20:11.420 you're probably
00:20:12.340 the least likely
00:20:13.520 to know how
00:20:15.060 to navigate the system.
00:20:16.400 If you've ever jumped
00:20:17.280 down the rabbit hole
00:20:18.320 of government websites
00:20:19.600 and this government website
00:20:21.140 and this government website
00:20:22.340 and this information line
00:20:23.980 and they kick you here
00:20:25.000 and more often than not,
00:20:26.940 the information you get
00:20:27.840 is the wrong one
00:20:28.760 and lines are clogged.
00:20:30.240 You know,
00:20:30.460 I just did my wife's
00:20:31.640 and my taxes last night,
00:20:32.960 which let me tell you
00:20:33.900 is no picnic either,
00:20:35.700 no way to celebrate
00:20:36.720 the quarantine,
00:20:38.280 even with having an extension.
00:20:40.600 I just wanted to do it
00:20:41.620 and get it out of the way now.
00:20:43.340 But a lot of people
00:20:44.600 who are really in need
00:20:46.360 of government support
00:20:47.380 and by the way,
00:20:48.300 when I say vulnerable,
00:20:49.200 I don't mean people
00:20:50.540 that are idiots.
00:20:51.320 I mean people
00:20:52.020 that are in situations
00:20:53.160 where they need the support.
00:20:55.280 You know,
00:20:55.560 whether it's a small business owner
00:20:57.020 who doesn't know
00:20:58.140 if they're going to be able
00:20:58.920 to make payroll,
00:20:59.800 whether it's someone
00:21:00.500 who is on a fixed income
00:21:02.020 right now
00:21:02.620 and whatever the case may be,
00:21:04.640 people need this support
00:21:07.080 and the government
00:21:08.100 is giving it to them
00:21:09.560 but you have to go through
00:21:10.980 this program,
00:21:11.820 that program,
00:21:12.680 this program
00:21:13.360 and I think there's something
00:21:15.140 to be said
00:21:15.660 for just making it simple.
00:21:17.300 Here's a check,
00:21:18.720 have at it.
00:21:19.620 But besides the point,
00:21:21.440 I'm generally supportive
00:21:22.780 of the government
00:21:23.480 trying to help people
00:21:24.960 in this way
00:21:25.780 because of the extraordinary
00:21:27.440 circumstances
00:21:28.380 in which we are living
00:21:29.520 right now
00:21:30.140 and you know what,
00:21:32.340 if the government
00:21:33.140 had just done
00:21:34.140 what was announced,
00:21:35.680 this wouldn't have been a problem.
00:21:37.620 This wouldn't have even been a debate
00:21:38.920 because the conservatives
00:21:40.680 were pushing for the liberals
00:21:42.920 to bifurcate the bill.
00:21:44.520 There was a bill
00:21:45.280 that had all the aid
00:21:46.200 and there was a bill
00:21:46.920 that had the extended powers.
00:21:48.500 The conservatives were saying,
00:21:49.580 listen,
00:21:50.000 why not just make this two bills?
00:21:52.160 And Bill Morneau
00:21:53.200 had said,
00:21:53.780 oh no,
00:21:54.140 we need it all.
00:21:55.700 We need it all.
00:21:56.760 It's just one big omnibus party bill
00:21:59.720 that we're doing here
00:22:00.560 and that was why
00:22:01.860 there were so many problems with it.
00:22:04.400 So I was watching every single,
00:22:06.960 I've listened to every single word
00:22:09.180 Justin Trudeau has had.
00:22:10.620 Now,
00:22:11.300 had to say for the last week and a half.
00:22:13.260 Now,
00:22:13.420 if there is something deserving
00:22:14.540 of an Order of Canada,
00:22:15.840 this is it.
00:22:16.580 I have had to listen to every word
00:22:18.280 that Justin Trudeau has uttered.
00:22:19.940 I've also listened to everything
00:22:21.340 that Chrystia Freeland
00:22:22.360 and Bill Blair
00:22:23.140 and Bill Morneau
00:22:23.920 and all of these people have said
00:22:25.300 at these daily briefings.
00:22:27.000 Hours a day
00:22:28.000 I'm spending listening
00:22:29.520 to what the government is saying
00:22:31.040 and in some cases
00:22:32.620 these press conferences
00:22:33.600 are going an hour each
00:22:34.820 and there's three of them a day
00:22:36.880 that I'm watching.
00:22:37.800 I'm not saying this to brag.
00:22:39.260 I'm saying this to tell you
00:22:40.300 that I am so immersed
00:22:41.500 in what's happening
00:22:42.560 and not once
00:22:44.460 did anyone ever say
00:22:46.600 throughout any of these
00:22:47.720 the government needs more powers
00:22:50.880 to do what's necessary
00:22:53.000 to stop this.
00:22:54.460 Never did that come up.
00:22:56.220 In fact,
00:22:56.660 Justin Trudeau has rebuffed
00:22:58.280 advancing under
00:22:59.800 the Emergencies Act
00:23:01.080 formerly the War Measures Act
00:23:02.860 or martial law
00:23:03.820 as people call it
00:23:05.080 more colloquially
00:23:05.920 and he said
00:23:07.440 you know
00:23:07.820 even that's not necessary
00:23:08.920 it's a last resort.
00:23:10.240 So nowhere has the idea
00:23:11.980 of more government power
00:23:13.600 been put forward
00:23:15.080 as being somewhat essential.
00:23:17.760 So when this comes
00:23:19.160 it is not just a blindside
00:23:20.720 to the conservatives
00:23:22.080 and to the NDP
00:23:22.960 and to the Bloc Québécois
00:23:24.020 and to the Greens
00:23:25.280 and I mean the PPC
00:23:26.220 aren't in Parliament
00:23:26.980 but they're still part
00:23:27.860 of the political process
00:23:29.060 it is a complete
00:23:31.080 pulling of the rug
00:23:32.820 out from every Canadian
00:23:34.820 from under every Canadian
00:23:36.580 because these are not
00:23:38.240 the discussions
00:23:39.020 that were advanced
00:23:39.900 these are not the ways
00:23:41.080 that the government said
00:23:42.100 we are going to help you.
00:23:43.620 So I'm glad
00:23:46.440 that this has been
00:23:47.640 for this particular point
00:23:49.560 put to rest
00:23:51.000 but we can't neglect
00:23:53.840 to accept
00:23:55.180 that we're talking
00:23:56.540 about a government
00:23:57.240 that did it in the first place
00:23:58.800 and will potentially
00:24:00.360 try to claim power
00:24:01.940 or seize power
00:24:02.860 in such a way
00:24:03.600 in the future
00:24:04.680 especially as this crisis
00:24:06.320 looks like one
00:24:07.180 that we might be in
00:24:08.580 for a little while.
00:24:09.620 We had the
00:24:10.200 World Health Organization
00:24:11.680 yesterday say
00:24:12.480 the United States
00:24:13.400 is going to be
00:24:14.060 the new epicenter
00:24:14.960 of this
00:24:15.460 we have the largest
00:24:16.700 unprotected border
00:24:17.740 in the world
00:24:18.420 with the US
00:24:19.220 which means
00:24:20.280 even with the border
00:24:21.220 restrictions
00:24:21.800 that have been put in place
00:24:23.140 the exemptions
00:24:24.500 for trade
00:24:25.120 and family
00:24:25.720 and other things
00:24:26.460 are probably
00:24:28.000 going to make it
00:24:28.900 so that some of that
00:24:30.220 will spill over
00:24:31.020 into Canada.
00:24:32.000 You had another
00:24:32.960 World Health Organization
00:24:34.260 official say
00:24:34.920 that we could be
00:24:35.460 looking at eight months
00:24:36.680 required to eradicate this
00:24:38.840 eight months
00:24:39.380 of social distancing.
00:24:40.380 Now will it be
00:24:41.620 eight months
00:24:42.240 looking like
00:24:42.960 what we're in the midst
00:24:43.780 of right now
00:24:44.560 or will it be
00:24:45.500 eight months
00:24:46.020 of something
00:24:47.000 a lot more
00:24:47.640 pared down
00:24:48.400 and manageable
00:24:49.200 perhaps more
00:24:50.400 regionally contained
00:24:51.400 we don't know
00:24:52.180 but if this crisis
00:24:54.120 is going to last
00:24:55.100 for weeks
00:24:55.700 and potentially months
00:24:57.100 we have to be
00:24:58.400 on guard
00:24:58.920 that the government
00:24:59.600 is not going to
00:25:00.460 use it
00:25:01.020 as an excuse
00:25:02.360 to railroad in
00:25:04.800 all of the things
00:25:06.300 that it wants
00:25:07.040 to railroad in
00:25:08.260 but couldn't
00:25:09.340 without there being
00:25:10.360 a crisis
00:25:11.140 as the backdrop
00:25:12.260 and it goes back
00:25:14.360 to that line
00:25:15.020 I used at the beginning
00:25:15.920 from Rahm Emanuel
00:25:16.840 of never let a crisis
00:25:18.140 go to waste
00:25:18.780 it goes back
00:25:19.480 to every single
00:25:21.000 decision the government
00:25:22.220 has made
00:25:22.920 that threatens
00:25:23.840 civil liberties
00:25:24.560 and I think I said
00:25:25.600 this on Monday's show
00:25:26.740 but it bears repeating now
00:25:28.080 that while there are
00:25:29.700 things that need
00:25:30.460 to be done
00:25:31.140 that are urgent
00:25:32.260 and imminent
00:25:32.940 and might rub you
00:25:34.180 the wrong way
00:25:35.060 under any other
00:25:35.960 circumstances
00:25:36.740 if such a thing
00:25:38.260 happens now
00:25:39.100 you better make
00:25:40.300 darn sure
00:25:41.060 that it isn't
00:25:41.780 permanent
00:25:42.220 that crisis measures
00:25:44.620 do not outlive
00:25:46.020 the crisis itself
00:25:47.240 that has to be
00:25:48.280 the priority here
00:25:49.320 because if it's not
00:25:50.580 Canada turns into
00:25:51.760 exactly like
00:25:52.640 the basic dictatorship
00:25:54.760 that Trudeau
00:25:55.540 years ago
00:25:56.260 lauded from China
00:25:57.480 which gets put
00:25:58.600 into a heck of a lot
00:25:59.560 more of a scary
00:26:00.760 context when you see
00:26:01.880 what the liberals
00:26:02.440 tried to do this week
00:26:03.560 which is basically
00:26:04.700 give Trudeau
00:26:05.600 complete executive
00:26:06.880 authority
00:26:07.560 on the country's
00:26:09.280 finances
00:26:09.880 which is the way
00:26:11.220 that the country
00:26:11.980 could really be
00:26:13.020 handcuffed
00:26:13.900 by the government
00:26:14.880 I mean right now
00:26:16.280 it is March 25th
00:26:17.740 in exactly one week
00:26:19.500 the federal carbon tax
00:26:21.460 is going into place
00:26:22.340 and the government's
00:26:23.240 not backing away
00:26:24.120 on the carbon tax
00:26:25.120 by the way
00:26:25.580 the government
00:26:27.100 that says
00:26:27.620 it has our back
00:26:28.800 and it's helping us
00:26:29.660 and it realizes
00:26:30.420 there's a grave
00:26:31.380 financial burden
00:26:32.360 the government
00:26:33.240 is not stopping
00:26:34.580 the carbon tax
00:26:35.540 increase of 50%
00:26:37.500 from going into effect
00:26:39.280 because it still
00:26:40.180 buys into this
00:26:41.280 it still buys into it
00:26:43.120 and the irony is
00:26:44.000 gas prices
00:26:44.700 are at a low point
00:26:46.600 for I don't know
00:26:47.600 how long
00:26:48.100 but a major
00:26:48.960 multi-year low point
00:26:50.140 right now
00:26:50.700 you also have the fact
00:26:52.440 that no one can go
00:26:53.480 anywhere
00:26:53.820 you can't fly
00:26:54.800 you can't drive
00:26:55.720 you can't do much
00:26:56.720 goods are being shipped
00:26:58.360 but
00:26:58.700 at the same time
00:27:00.620 there is not
00:27:02.000 a huge influx
00:27:03.560 of transport
00:27:04.960 beyond the normal
00:27:06.380 transport
00:27:07.060 so
00:27:07.900 you know
00:27:09.000 the need for a carbon tax
00:27:10.660 right now
00:27:11.340 is kind of minimal
00:27:12.920 and look
00:27:13.900 I want to pull up
00:27:14.680 a couple of stories
00:27:15.560 that I find are hilarious
00:27:17.280 and you get people
00:27:18.520 that are just so
00:27:20.460 they hold such contempt
00:27:23.480 for the human race
00:27:25.120 oh yeah
00:27:26.060 this was the one
00:27:26.640 that I liked
00:27:27.160 it was a letter
00:27:27.640 to the editor
00:27:28.180 in the LA Times
00:27:28.940 not the one
00:27:29.340 I was thinking of
00:27:30.020 but the sense is true
00:27:30.980 coronavirus offers
00:27:32.640 a once in a lifetime
00:27:33.820 opportunity
00:27:34.660 on climate change
00:27:36.020 it was
00:27:37.100 the unintended consequence
00:27:38.860 that is supremely positive
00:27:40.320 because now we can tackle
00:27:42.340 greenhouse gas emissions
00:27:43.520 in a way that no one
00:27:44.700 could have done before
00:27:46.020 and this was in response
00:27:47.160 to the one that I was
00:27:48.040 thinking of
00:27:48.600 an op-ed
00:27:49.700 in the LA Times
00:27:51.120 called
00:27:51.660 coronavirus has something
00:27:52.820 to teach us
00:27:53.500 about how to save the planet
00:27:54.860 by staying put
00:27:56.300 so
00:27:57.060 you know
00:27:57.540 I saw Prince Charles
00:27:58.500 as well
00:27:59.020 the Duke of Cornwall
00:28:00.520 has a coronavirus
00:28:01.700 you know what
00:28:02.960 whatever I may think
00:28:04.520 of him politically
00:28:05.160 I don't wish this
00:28:06.340 on anyone
00:28:07.080 certainly people
00:28:07.880 of his age
00:28:08.580 but it is interesting
00:28:10.740 people like Prince Charles
00:28:12.000 and Leo DiCaprio
00:28:13.180 and Joaquin Phoenix
00:28:14.740 are telling us
00:28:15.460 that we need to
00:28:16.340 no longer eat meat
00:28:17.540 we shouldn't be able
00:28:18.260 to travel
00:28:18.780 we shouldn't go anywhere
00:28:20.060 we shouldn't do anything
00:28:21.220 that we should basically
00:28:22.520 just sit on our hands
00:28:23.680 as though we were pioneers
00:28:25.320 and just live that way
00:28:28.080 despite you know
00:28:28.880 the emissions of candlelight
00:28:30.080 so maybe we don't even
00:28:31.140 get the candles
00:28:31.800 but you get all of these
00:28:33.140 alarmists that would love
00:28:34.400 for us to just
00:28:35.220 completely live
00:28:36.340 in the dark ages
00:28:37.440 this is what Earth Hour
00:28:39.180 is all about every year
00:28:40.340 and I don't know
00:28:41.100 are we doing
00:28:41.480 Earth Hour is coming up
00:28:42.700 isn't it?
00:28:43.460 I mean
00:28:43.660 the whole world
00:28:44.480 is doing Earth Hour
00:28:45.420 for multiple weeks now
00:28:47.140 so I don't know
00:28:47.800 if we're officially
00:28:48.820 doing Earth Hour
00:28:49.660 anymore
00:28:50.200 but these people
00:28:51.320 want us to live
00:28:52.060 in the dark ages
00:28:52.820 and now you have
00:28:54.460 COVID-19
00:28:55.160 which is actually
00:28:56.420 forcing you
00:28:57.480 to regress
00:28:58.460 the quarantine mentality
00:28:59.800 is forcing us
00:29:00.800 to as a society
00:29:02.140 regress
00:29:02.660 and this is
00:29:03.560 they love this
00:29:04.520 that's the problem
00:29:05.600 is that a lot of them
00:29:06.440 love this
00:29:06.880 they say oh man
00:29:07.480 this is what we need
00:29:08.840 to do for climate change
00:29:10.360 there were people
00:29:11.420 talking about
00:29:12.080 how the canals
00:29:12.840 in Venice
00:29:13.340 are so much cleaner now
00:29:14.640 which yes
00:29:15.460 may be great
00:29:16.160 if you're a marine biologist
00:29:17.460 but if they're greater
00:29:19.120 because of a disease
00:29:20.380 that is killing people
00:29:21.720 I don't think
00:29:22.940 we can call this
00:29:23.820 a net positive
00:29:24.760 or China's emissions
00:29:26.660 went down for a bit
00:29:27.880 because no one
00:29:28.660 was able to go
00:29:29.180 to the factories
00:29:29.800 when Wuhan
00:29:30.460 was on lockdown
00:29:32.000 so again
00:29:32.580 people were cheering this
00:29:34.040 we should not
00:29:35.520 be cheering this
00:29:36.540 I mean this
00:29:36.960 Malthusian
00:29:37.880 anti-human
00:29:39.100 approach to the world
00:29:40.540 is causing some people
00:29:42.280 not to celebrate
00:29:43.320 COVID-19 necessarily
00:29:45.040 I mean in some cases
00:29:46.300 though
00:29:46.500 to try to find
00:29:47.440 the silver lining
00:29:48.240 of like
00:29:48.640 hey you know
00:29:49.180 your life is miserable now
00:29:50.300 but if you keep this up
00:29:51.260 we might be able
00:29:52.040 to save the planet
00:29:52.920 I mean Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
00:29:56.080 must have some
00:29:56.720 very good minders
00:29:57.920 that are keeping her
00:29:59.040 from doing this
00:29:59.900 and incidentally
00:30:01.180 she's been you know
00:30:02.140 crusading against Amazon
00:30:03.480 for the last
00:30:04.280 however many months
00:30:05.140 I have no idea
00:30:05.860 and I noticed that
00:30:06.980 on her Twitter feed
00:30:07.820 which I actually looked
00:30:09.120 talk about doing
00:30:09.760 the hard work
00:30:10.420 I went through
00:30:11.040 AOC's Twitter feed
00:30:12.220 yesterday
00:30:12.620 and I noticed
00:30:13.760 she's been very silent
00:30:14.880 on Amazon
00:30:15.820 in the last couple of weeks
00:30:17.620 given that Amazon
00:30:18.780 is now like
00:30:19.960 the one thing
00:30:20.820 preventing the world
00:30:22.120 from going into
00:30:22.800 total collapse
00:30:23.880 and a food shortage
00:30:25.520 and you know
00:30:26.620 supply shortages
00:30:27.820 because Amazon
00:30:28.860 is actually getting
00:30:29.840 products to people
00:30:30.820 who can't leave
00:30:31.540 their homes
00:30:32.140 so all of the
00:30:33.460 anti-Amazon rhetoric
00:30:35.120 from the American left
00:30:36.200 seems to have been
00:30:36.960 put on the
00:30:37.740 back burner
00:30:38.700 for the time being
00:30:39.640 which I think
00:30:40.220 is a bit of a positive
00:30:41.520 but the point of this
00:30:44.020 is that
00:30:44.980 we are not going
00:30:46.620 to get through this
00:30:48.060 and say
00:30:49.060 oh you know what
00:30:49.880 I miss this
00:30:51.460 if we get through it
00:30:53.160 and I think we can
00:30:54.100 humans are resilient
00:30:55.100 Canadians
00:30:55.660 Americans are resilient
00:30:56.840 we're not going to
00:30:58.360 long for the days
00:30:59.900 of quarantine
00:31:01.200 and this is something
00:31:03.060 that all of the people
00:31:04.120 trying to make this
00:31:05.020 into an environmental fight
00:31:06.460 I think are very much
00:31:08.140 off base on
00:31:09.220 and that's something
00:31:09.860 that we'll see
00:31:10.420 I want to do
00:31:11.360 a little bit of an update
00:31:12.680 on the conservative
00:31:13.680 leadership race
00:31:14.520 when we come back
00:31:15.260 in just a couple
00:31:16.280 of moments
00:31:16.700 you're tuned in
00:31:17.300 to the Andrew Lawton
00:31:18.440 Show
00:31:18.660 here on True North
00:31:19.680 you're tuned in
00:31:21.820 to the Andrew Lawton
00:31:23.000 Show
00:31:23.380 welcome back
00:31:29.440 I mentioned briefly
00:31:30.720 on the show
00:31:31.600 on Monday
00:31:32.340 that Jim Carajalios
00:31:34.320 who was running
00:31:35.200 for the conservative
00:31:35.940 leadership
00:31:36.540 had been disqualified
00:31:37.860 and I wanted to give
00:31:39.920 a bit of an update
00:31:40.820 on that
00:31:41.300 now for starters
00:31:42.340 the party
00:31:42.920 it seems like
00:31:43.540 is still not budging
00:31:44.700 on the leadership
00:31:46.700 cut off
00:31:47.460 of March 25th
00:31:48.840 and I mentioned this
00:31:50.520 because I was hoping
00:31:52.060 that what I had talked
00:31:53.060 about on the last episode
00:31:54.500 would be outdated
00:31:55.800 by the time the show
00:31:56.860 was released
00:31:57.680 and it was
00:31:58.480 it was outdated
00:31:59.760 not for the conservative
00:32:00.780 leadership stuff
00:32:01.740 but for the Olympics
00:32:02.780 because I mentioned
00:32:03.820 the Olympics might be cancelled
00:32:05.040 and then like
00:32:06.180 10 minutes after
00:32:06.980 I finished recording
00:32:07.760 the Olympics were cancelled
00:32:08.840 but the leadership one
00:32:10.600 was the one
00:32:11.080 that I had said
00:32:11.760 I hope it is outdated
00:32:13.440 and the party
00:32:15.240 still not budging
00:32:16.060 on this
00:32:16.520 Jim Carajalios
00:32:17.860 is suing the conservatives
00:32:19.560 now I don't know
00:32:20.320 how easy it is
00:32:21.380 right now
00:32:21.800 with courts
00:32:22.400 that have essentially
00:32:23.600 shut down
00:32:24.320 but the Ontario
00:32:25.840 Superior Court
00:32:26.840 of Justice
00:32:27.480 approved a request
00:32:28.820 from Jim Carajalios
00:32:29.980 to consider
00:32:31.220 a notice of application
00:32:32.580 seeking a declaration
00:32:33.960 that his disqualification
00:32:36.240 from the conservative
00:32:37.500 leadership race
00:32:38.420 was invalid
00:32:39.560 what Carajalios
00:32:41.860 says in a press release
00:32:43.540 is that
00:32:43.900 five appointed
00:32:44.980 and unelected
00:32:45.980 individuals
00:32:46.500 have attempted
00:32:47.400 to hijack democracy
00:32:49.120 by removing my name
00:32:50.660 from the ballot
00:32:51.240 in the conservative
00:32:52.020 leadership race
00:32:52.940 under the party's
00:32:54.240 constitution
00:32:54.780 and the leadership
00:32:55.840 rules
00:32:56.320 these individuals
00:32:57.580 neither had the grounds
00:32:59.160 nor the authority
00:33:00.200 to disqualify me
00:33:01.340 their decision
00:33:02.560 was politically motivated
00:33:03.940 as my candidacy
00:33:05.240 was increasingly
00:33:06.180 becoming a threat
00:33:07.860 to stop the red Tory coronation
00:33:10.080 of Aaron O'Toole
00:33:11.320 or Peter McKay
00:33:12.460 now in this application
00:33:14.380 which I have not seen
00:33:15.780 but I've seen
00:33:16.740 a version
00:33:18.100 or I've seen
00:33:18.960 an excerpt of it
00:33:20.000 that was sent out
00:33:21.000 by Jim Carajalios' team
00:33:22.940 in a press release
00:33:24.360 he says that
00:33:26.060 it basically
00:33:27.080 is a breach of contract
00:33:28.520 on the part of the party
00:33:29.520 they disqualified him
00:33:31.040 in bad faith
00:33:31.780 it was unlawful
00:33:33.080 because he didn't
00:33:33.760 violate any of the rules
00:33:34.920 and it offended
00:33:36.100 the principles
00:33:36.840 of natural justice
00:33:38.320 and procedural fairness
00:33:39.780 now I'm not a lawyer
00:33:41.520 so I'm not going to get into
00:33:42.700 the legality of this
00:33:44.220 now Carajalios
00:33:45.400 for his part
00:33:46.040 is a lawyer
00:33:46.760 but the interesting thing
00:33:48.880 is that
00:33:49.540 what I have learned
00:33:50.800 especially through
00:33:51.580 the course of
00:33:52.440 our fight
00:33:53.320 at True North
00:33:54.020 against the
00:33:54.680 Leaders Debates Commission
00:33:55.780 is that
00:33:56.340 you can't do things
00:33:57.740 arbitrarily
00:33:58.580 and even though
00:33:59.440 a political party
00:34:00.360 is not
00:34:01.500 a government agency
00:34:03.320 clearly
00:34:03.820 because the liberals
00:34:04.760 were banning me
00:34:05.920 from their campaign
00:34:06.720 and there really
00:34:07.680 wasn't anything
00:34:08.400 that I could do
00:34:09.380 about it
00:34:09.880 political party elections
00:34:11.900 which including
00:34:13.020 a leadership election
00:34:14.100 is still subject
00:34:15.560 to Elections Canada
00:34:16.840 so there is
00:34:17.520 federal oversight
00:34:18.620 and more importantly
00:34:20.340 there is a requirement
00:34:21.660 to uphold the contract
00:34:23.780 so I've read the rules
00:34:25.500 of the leadership race
00:34:26.840 not exactly
00:34:27.840 stellar or interesting reading
00:34:29.960 but significant reading
00:34:31.580 and the one thing
00:34:33.020 that comes up
00:34:33.620 is that
00:34:33.960 it's very
00:34:34.880 scant on detail
00:34:36.280 about disqualification
00:34:37.620 after someone
00:34:39.000 has been approved
00:34:39.860 in which case
00:34:40.620 Carajalios
00:34:41.480 who was approved
00:34:42.520 as an applicant
00:34:43.400 was later disqualified
00:34:45.440 and that process
00:34:46.560 is not spelled out
00:34:47.600 so he may have a case
00:34:48.980 or he may not
00:34:49.900 but that seems to be
00:34:51.260 really what he's
00:34:52.140 seizing
00:34:52.820 that something
00:34:53.680 happened
00:34:54.580 from an organ
00:34:55.620 of the leadership process
00:34:57.320 that really had
00:34:58.520 no jurisdiction
00:34:59.400 and no basis
00:35:00.280 and no authority
00:35:01.520 to make that decision
00:35:02.940 now I've talked to Jim
00:35:04.580 about doing an interview
00:35:05.680 we were originally
00:35:06.420 going to do one
00:35:07.220 when I was sitting down
00:35:08.380 with leadership candidates
00:35:09.440 and then we were hoping
00:35:10.880 to touch base
00:35:11.840 about this particular
00:35:13.420 legal action here
00:35:14.560 but as it so happened
00:35:16.080 just with everything going on
00:35:17.360 we didn't have time
00:35:18.120 to set it up
00:35:18.700 for this show
00:35:19.180 so for people saying
00:35:20.740 you know
00:35:21.080 are you going to talk to him
00:35:21.900 yes the invitations
00:35:23.140 out there
00:35:23.700 might not be until next week
00:35:25.320 I told him that
00:35:26.360 you know we're in the midst
00:35:27.200 of really heavy
00:35:28.560 knee-deep COVID-19 coverage
00:35:30.800 and he was understandable
00:35:32.480 of that
00:35:32.960 so we'll have more on that
00:35:34.740 as it devolves
00:35:35.840 or evolves
00:35:36.600 such as the case may be
00:35:37.960 in future shows
00:35:39.660 in the meantime
00:35:40.640 my thanks to all of you
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