Juno News - The Biggest LOSERS of the 2025 Canadian Election

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. Happy Friday, everyone. We have a

00:00:05.460 great show for you. Obviously, we had the big election on Monday night. Thank you, everyone

00:00:09.860 who tuned into our live broadcast. Our goal was to replace the CBC. We didn't quite get there,

00:00:14.920 but we had a fantastic night. Great guests, great insight. We had a decision desk making

00:00:18.860 the live calls. So we really appreciate everyone who joined us. Because the election went so late,

00:00:23.860 our broadcast ended at 2 a.m., not all of the dust had sort of settled. So we're going to do

00:00:28.160 a recap today of the election and talk about who I think are the biggest winners and the

00:00:34.080 biggest losers of the campaign. There were a lot of losers, and we're going to go through

00:00:39.100 them all. Before we get going, I'm just going to ask you to quickly like the video. It really

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00:00:46.580 out. Thank you so much. Okay, to join me on this episode, we're going to have a lot of fun

00:00:50.400 today on The Candace Malcolm Show. And I am pleased to be joined by one of my favorite

00:00:54.100 political commentators, Wyatt Claypool. He is the founder of the National Telegraph and

00:00:58.900 a political commentator based in Calgary. Wyatt, thanks for joining us.

00:01:02.440 Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.

00:01:04.080 Okay, so let's just go through the final count. We have the, this is as of Friday morning. I think

00:01:08.880 most of the votes are in, but there will be, of course, a few recounts. So the way that it all

00:01:13.140 finished is that the Liberal Party of Canada is sitting at 168 seats. They got 8.5 million votes,

00:01:19.400 43.7% total. And then next we have the Conservatives, 144 seats, 8,089,000 votes,

00:01:28.400 which represents 41.3%. The NDP had seven seats, 1.2 million, which was 6.3 seats. Interestingly,

00:01:34.980 the Bloc also had 6.3% of the vote, but they have a much more efficient breakdown because they only run

00:01:42.120 candidates in one province in Quebec. So they got 23 seats for their 1.2 million. Green Party

00:01:47.480 effectively got wiped out in this election. One seat for the crazy leader, Elizabeth May, 1.00

00:01:51.840 and 1.3% of the vote, 240,000 in change votes. And the PPC also got wiped out, zero seats,

00:01:58.740 only 140,000 votes, 0.7% of the campaign. Interestingly, there was a flip. So the Liberals

00:02:06.220 lost a closely contested seat to the Bloc Quebecois after vote validation. I think it ended up switching

00:02:12.040 by like 70 votes, which is enough to switch it over. So sometimes in democracy, it really comes

00:02:17.280 down like every single vote matters. This election was so close. It was really won just in a handful

00:02:21.380 of seats across the country. Remember the magic number to get a majority is 172. Liberals finished

00:02:27.360 at 168. It looks like, I think there'll be a handful of recounts, but my guess is it'll roughly

00:02:32.160 stay the same at 168. And so why I know that there's been some speculation about this idea that

00:02:38.800 all the Liberals would have to do is convince four NDP or four Green or four block members,

00:02:44.580 not Green, one block, four Greens to just cross the floor and come on over to the Liberals.

00:02:49.420 I think that's highly unlikely because just as you may say, you can find four people from other

00:02:54.540 parties to cross the floor to the Liberals. You could also very easily have four Liberals be

00:02:59.700 convinced to cross the floor to the Conservatives to spoil it for Mark Carney and be given a special

00:03:05.460 position in the Conservative Party. It goes both ways. We've seen that happen

00:03:08.280 before. So I don't see any pathway to Mark Carney magically coming up with a majority here. What

00:03:13.000 do you think? Well, you're right. It's an arbitrary argument that, well, look, they only need five

00:03:18.880 seats. So why don't five NDP MPs move over so then they can fill the speaker position and they can have

00:03:25.820 their full majority without having to tie break votes? It's like, okay, but, and I've said this in

00:03:31.020 many shows before, there is a reason why the Liberal Party and the NDP are different parties. It's not

00:03:36.500 just because they just decided they like the color orange better. Jagmeet Singh had very much obscured

00:03:42.000 the differences between the Liberals and the NDP, but like what many NDP MPs have said, they are not

00:03:47.820 crossing the floor. And I think that they'd be fools to not see what the party is going to be like once

00:03:53.560 they pick a new leader. They have been through three cycles with the same guy. At least give someone

00:03:58.480 else a chance for a bit. And if they're smart, they'll actually try and re-embrace the blue-collar

00:04:03.980 labor vote they used to have back in the day. And they'll probably treat this minority government 0.98

00:04:09.440 more like Jack Layton treated the 2004 Paul Martin minority government. Because back then,

00:04:16.840 Jack Layton understood, even though, yes, the Liberals are more like them than they are the

00:04:21.440 Conservatives, that he needed to be able to pull the plug if he was actually going to be able to gain

00:04:26.420 more political power. Jagmeet Singh lost because he had no red line that he was willing, if crossed,

00:04:32.640 to pull the plug on Justin Trudeau and just let him sink.

00:04:35.940 Well, and we know he came out the week of the campaign and basically just said, we purposefully

00:04:40.400 propped up the Liberal government, even though we didn't agree with it, because we were just dead set

00:04:43.820 against Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives winning majority, which is totally counter to any type of

00:04:49.520 principle or even good strategic management of a political party. Okay, I want to move on to talk

00:04:54.500 about the PPC vote split. There was a lot of comments and concern over this. So from our account

00:05:01.140 here at Juno News, we found that there were three seats where the PPC vote was the difference, was

00:05:08.100 the difference. So Brampton East, you can see here that the Liberals got 23,600 votes, the Conservatives

00:05:13.640 got 21,600 votes. So the difference was fewer than 2,000. And the PPC came in right there with

00:05:20.240 2,300, enough to spoil it. One riding over in Brampton, North Caledon, you had the Liberals

00:05:27.600 with 22,600, the Conservatives with 22,000 and change, and the PPCs with 600 votes. Again,

00:05:34.420 that's the difference, more than the difference right there. Finally, just a little bit further

00:05:38.260 over in Kitchener-Costoga, the Liberals won with 30,000, the Conservatives 29,000, almost 500,

00:05:46.020 basically, and the PPCs with 700. So such small margins and such a small number from the PPC.

00:05:52.340 I, again, I don't know for sure that every single PPC member, every single PPC voter, sorry, is also

00:05:59.540 a Conservative voter. I think that a lot of people who go to the PPC are just protesting the system,

00:06:04.180 they're protesting the two parties, they are anti-establishment. And so I don't know that those

00:06:09.620 were easy, easily, you could easily turn those people into Conservative voters when it's such a

00:06:16.380 small number, but at the same time, obviously, it's frustrating to Conservatives to see just those

00:06:20.980 three seats. Obviously, three seats won't make a difference, like we talked about, the Liberals 0.74

00:06:24.280 did win by enough to have more of a comfortable minority, but still, every seat does matter.

00:06:29.420 So what do you make of this line of arguing?

00:06:31.900 I would sort of probably split those two areas into two different situations with the PPC.

00:06:39.740 In Brampton, the situation wasn't so much that, oh, don't they know that they should be voting for

00:06:45.320 the Conservatives in order to stop the Liberals, they should be trying to get rid of the Liberal

00:06:50.300 government, they're obviously, like, super corrupt. The problem was, is that in Brampton East,

00:06:55.740 the PPC candidate, Jeff Wall, had tried to contest one of the ridings Conservative Party nominations

00:07:02.580 and was arbitrarily kicked out. And so it was less that he was running for the PPC because he liked

00:07:08.340 the PPC, and more so that he was looking for an easy political vehicle to go after the party after

00:07:13.960 having removed him as a candidate. And he ended up having a few other Hindu Canadians join him in running

00:07:20.400 for the PPC in the Brampton area out of protest. People can agree with it, they cannot agree with

00:07:26.180 it, they can say maybe he should suck it up and just get over it. It's just, that's politics at the

00:07:31.380 end of the day, that if you end up messing with the wrong person, they may not just go home and feel

00:07:35.740 sad about it, they may do something about it. And then in Kitchener-Conestoga, this is more of,

00:07:41.980 I would say, a lot of PPC guys, and I even voted PPC in 2021, I couldn't possibly vote O'Toole and I'm

00:07:50.440 in a safe Conservative riding. But the people who are left over, I would say, are very much like the

00:07:56.200 Green Party. They are too anti-establishment to vote for any mainstream party, and they will never come

00:08:02.080 over because their actual list of demands will shift just so that they can keep saying that they're

00:08:08.680 a little bit too pure for the Conservative Party. I made a video at one point where I had gone over

00:08:13.900 some of the issues that PPC people were having, some of the candidates on why you should vote for

00:08:19.580 them, not the Conservative. It was easily debunkable that they were saying, well, you know,

00:08:24.460 Polyev has never stood up against gender theory. Well, Polyev has never stood up against, he never

00:08:29.980 stood up against lockdowns or mandates. He never did like this or that. It's like, it's, you can just

00:08:35.280 easily verify he did. But these people, even if you ended up showing them that he did, it's still

00:08:40.000 not good enough because that's not the point of the party to actually get some principled policy

00:08:44.680 position. It's just to be better than the Conservatives. No, that's absolutely right.

00:08:48.800 And I think that the idea is that you always vote for the most Conservative candidate that can win,

00:08:53.340 right? And I like Maxime Bernier. I think, I didn't vote in the leadership contest because I'm not a

00:08:57.980 Conservative Party member, but I would have been happy if Maxime Bernier had won the leadership of the

00:09:02.180 party after Stephen Harper stepped down. I thought he was really good on cultural issues, really good

00:09:06.640 on economic issues like supply management. He barely lost the leadership race to Andrew Scheer,

00:09:11.620 right? And it seemed like he could have had a great future in the party. He decided to leave.

00:09:15.840 And I get the protest, right? I understand in 2019 why you might have voted for Maxime Bernier to

00:09:21.220 protest against the Conservative Party going too soft, specifically on immigration, refusing to talk

00:09:25.200 about it in 2021. Definitely the COVID issue was madness. Like I'll tell you, Wyatt, watching the 2021

00:09:32.480 debate, all candidates debate with the leaders and seeing that ridiculous propaganda video that they

00:09:37.940 all put out promoting the vaccine, speaking in unison, speaking like, honestly, like it was creepy.

00:09:44.100 And to have the Conservative do that, like the whole idea of a Conservative is our values are different

00:09:48.520 and they articulate the differences and they don't just succumb to the Liberal narrative. So seeing a leader

00:09:52.820 succumb to the Liberal narrative, I'm all for it. I'm all for in 2021 voting for the People's Party.

00:09:58.320 But this time around, I just, I just didn't see the imperative. I didn't see the push. Go ahead.

00:10:02.780 Yeah, I was just gonna, I hated that stupid, we're all in this together video. I don't know,

00:10:07.840 there's never a moment where speaking in unison isn't creepy or as if it's going to put people

00:10:14.580 at ease because all these people are reading a script. But yeah, the PPC now, they, they're basically

00:10:19.920 a dead party. The only thing I find annoying, because I, the thing is, I don't even not support

00:10:25.320 small parties. I flew on my own expense to Ontario in February just to hit doors for the new blue

00:10:32.180 party of Ontario because I don't think that Doug Ford is a good Premier and I don't think the PC

00:10:36.860 party is doing anything Conservative. So you should be trying to prop up an alternative. The problem is

00:10:42.920 that my problem with the PPC, and this is a problem with all the elections, they don't even try.

00:10:47.900 That's the problem. I don't like when people take small donor money and they basically just burn it

00:10:54.140 on pretending like they're going to be standing up to the system or something like that.

00:10:58.460 I completely agree with that. We'll get to more. Okay. I want to get to the biggest winners and the

00:11:02.440 biggest losers in the election. We'll get to a little bit more on Maxine Bernier in that. First,

00:11:06.940 I want to start with the winners. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I'm not going to lie to the audience.

00:11:11.080 I will say the biggest winner of the election was Mark Carney and the Liberals. They pulled off

00:11:14.800 something absolutely remarkable. It was spectacular. The reversal in fortunes that we saw in this

00:11:20.300 country. Mark Carney took a party that was down and out. There was a certain point at the early part

00:11:25.120 of 2025 where the NDP was actually pulling ahead of Justin Trudeau and the Liberals. It was possible

00:11:30.420 that the Liberals were going to get wiped out. Mark Carney showed up and managed to do something

00:11:36.440 that just rarely happens in politics, a total reversal of fortune. He had the legacy media working

00:11:41.880 in overdrive for him. They crafted the perfect narrative. It was, I've said it before on the

00:11:45.940 show, it was like a black swan event where you had Donald Trump making these ridiculous comments,

00:11:50.280 Canadians getting really worried about the literal annexation or the effects of trade wars. Mark

00:11:55.540 Carney coming in as this sort of stable, competent, middle of the road banker. We know that that isn't

00:12:00.280 true, but so many Canadians fell for it and you have to hand it to them for being just so manipulative

00:12:06.200 and so good at it. It's like they're so good at being evil and they pulled it off. Unbelievable.

00:12:11.200 I think more winners in this election were certainly independent media, independent citizen journalists,

00:12:17.880 content creators, podcasters. You saw a whole new class of individuals, so many of them we had

00:12:23.040 on our show, but they were there breaking it down, getting huge numbers on platforms like YouTube,

00:12:29.740 TikTok, X. I mean, there's like 20 or 25. And for me, I've been doing this independent media gig

00:12:35.760 for the last, I think, four elections, 2015, 2019, 2021, and 2024, 2025. This was the first one where

00:12:42.380 I really felt like I just had good company. There were so many people around saying the same kind of

00:12:47.360 thing, doing the same kind of thing. It didn't feel so lonely. I think in previous elections,

00:12:50.340 it was just like true north and the rebel basically fighting against everyone. And this time it felt like

00:12:55.480 there was more of a critical mass. Obviously, we didn't have enough to push it over for the good

00:13:00.080 side, for the conservatives. But I think that the future is being laid out in front of us. I think that

00:13:05.100 the legacy media really have lost their grip. And I hope and I pray that this was the last election

00:13:10.240 that they were actually able to set the narrative. Because yes, we put cracks in the narrative. They

00:13:15.740 still said it, though. And so I think, yes, we were the winners. But the legacy media still had their

00:13:22.100 day. Just a few more winners election. I think new conservative MPs. I'm very excited about a handful of

00:13:27.620 freshmen or first time elected MPs. People like Andrew Lawton, who we had on the show yesterday, former

00:13:32.540 true north journalist, Matt Strauss, who was an incredible fighter for the fighting against the

00:13:39.180 madness and group think during COVID. He was elected. Aaron Gunn, documentary filmmaker and independent

00:13:44.380 journalist out in British Columbia was elected. And David Bexty, Kian Bexty's father was elected. So

00:13:49.260 there's a whole slate of new conservative candidates that I am very excited about. Final winner for me

00:13:54.860 was Danielle Smith. And for the future of Alberta, she just came across as being so strong, so confident

00:14:01.740 in her views, really speaking differently than the crowd and being able to articulate herself. And I

00:14:07.580 think that the movements, the strategy that she's had post election, changing the citizenship initiative,

00:14:12.780 referendum requirements, and coming out demanding a reset in the relationship with Ottawa. I think

00:14:18.940 Danielle Smith definitely came out as a big winner of the campaign. Okay, why, what did you think of my

00:14:23.100 winners list? And do you have your own? I thought I thought especially the one about independent media

00:14:28.300 is good, not just because I work in independent media, you know, not you don't exist just to gas

00:14:33.340 each other up. But it's genuinely, you're right back in the last election, there wasn't really a big

00:14:38.780 collection of people covering the news. It was, yeah, just a few collections of networks, a few niche

00:14:44.700 YouTubers. And that was it. I'm going to add another winner to your list. It hurts me to say it,

00:14:51.660 but a big winner of the night was Bruce Fanjoy, a man who had been mocked for probably two years

00:14:58.380 trying to take on Pierre Polyev in Carleton. And was he helped by a big boundary redistribution?

00:15:04.140 Yes. Was he helped by the fact that Pierre Polyev really didn't have time to run his own riding?

00:15:09.180 Yes. But, you know, if you win the seat, you still get the credit for it. But I will even add that the

00:15:14.860 Conservative Party still had a good night. There were certain areas you could say that the Southwestern

00:15:19.980 Ontario Conservatives did really, really well. We won Windsor West and both Windsor ridings,

00:15:27.340 despite some of those not having gone conservative since 1935, I believe. And so there are a lot of

00:15:33.820 good highlights around the country for the Conservatives. The fact that the Conservatives'

00:15:38.060 vote has actually become far more efficient than it was in previous elections. In previous elections,

00:15:43.420 they could win the popular vote and still come in with only 119 seats. And now you can actually lose

00:15:49.420 the popular vote and you can come in nearly almost at what the Liberals had. If one point just shifted

00:15:55.100 from the Liberals to the Conservatives, it may be a completely different election. And I think you're

00:16:00.300 right where the thing that the legacy media did and Mark Carney had done, yes, they won the night,

00:16:05.980 so they get the credit still. At the same time, it's one of those tricks you can only pull once. And my

00:16:11.500 evidence is Chinese interference in this election did not go very well. The CCP had no effect. Chinese,

00:16:17.740 Canadians voted Conservative by quite a large margin because you can't pull the same trick twice. In

00:16:24.300 2021, they scared Chinese Canadians into thinking the Conservatives blame you for COVID because you're

00:16:30.380 Chinese, which was ridiculous. But if you live potentially in a small media bubble of mostly 0.91

00:16:35.500 listening to a few Chinese publications sent to you over WeChat, you may be influenced. This election,

00:16:42.380 it didn't matter what they did. It just did not work. Chinese Canadians didn't want to hear it, 1.00

00:16:46.620 and they were just going to vote for whoever was going to perform well on drugs, crime, and taxes.

00:16:52.300 Absolutely. And we can go through some of the writings that have a high Chinese population,

00:16:56.700 like Markham Unionville, like the Richmond writings out in British Columbia that did go

00:17:00.940 Conservative. So again, yeah, I did an entire show on Tuesday of the good news from the election,

00:17:06.620 and I did think that the Conservatives overperformed. They picked up a lot. I mean,

00:17:10.460 I was going through some of the writings, Wyatt, in the 905, like Richmond Hill, the Vaughan writings.

00:17:15.900 I mean, they were winning with like rural Alberta number. Now I know David Bextie got elected with

00:17:20.620 over 80%. So there was no writing in Ontario where the Conservatives got more than 80%. But I mean,

00:17:26.300 Melissa Lansman won with a higher percentage in Thorn Hill, which is basically Toronto, than Michelle 0.93

00:17:32.060 Rempel did in Calgary. In King Vaughan, 62%. So big numbers for the Conservatives, very close to

00:17:40.860 Toronto. So I do think that there is some good news. Okay, let's go through the losers. Everybody

00:17:45.580 wants to know who are our biggest losers of the election. Number one, by far, far and away,

00:17:53.020 the absolute biggest loser in the election, probably the biggest loser in Canadian political history.

00:17:58.460 That award is going to go to Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, absolutely wiped out, losing party status.

00:18:05.500 Jagmeet Singh loses his own writing, will go down in history as a laughing stock and a total joke

00:18:10.620 who enabled the worst government in Canadian history. And I want you to get a load of this,

00:18:15.500 Wyatt, because I noticed this from an individual named Brett Cameron on X. He posted this. He writes,

00:18:22.780 the number of campaigns that failed to get 10% of the vote,

00:18:26.300 thereby not qualifying for a juicy Elections Canada rebate check to repay bank loans and

00:18:31.660 replenish the local war chest. You can look at this chart. First of all, it is so absurd

00:18:36.780 that taxpayers subsidize political parties in this country. I mean, this is so ridiculous that the

00:18:41.820 Elections Canada gives you a rebate check for the amount of money that you spend on the campaign

00:18:46.300 if you hit a certain threshold. It's just silly. But anyways, I disagree with the policy, but this is

00:18:51.260 the reality of it. So here is a list of Conservative Liberal, NDP, Bloc Green, and PPC, the number of

00:18:56.620 campaigns that they ran, and then the number that were below the 10%. So Conservatives had two below

00:19:01.980 the 10%, Libs had one. The NDP had 296 of 342 that were below 10%, meaning they won't get the rebate,

00:19:12.860 meaning I think the party is going to go bankrupt. I think the party is going to go bankrupt because if you

00:19:17.340 know political campaigns, a lot of times, like he said, they take out bank loans. They're literally

00:19:22.700 running their campaign on debt in the hopes that the government is going to write them a big subsidy

00:19:27.500 check afterwards. All they have to do is get 10% of the vote. The NDP just didn't accomplish it in 87%

00:19:33.660 of the ridings that they ran in. They're not getting the money. Likewise, the Bloc, sorry, the Green Party

00:19:40.380 didn't make the threshold in 98% of the ridings that they ran. They only made it in four ridings

00:19:45.740 and the PPC in 100. So PPC is not getting any money. The Bloc is only getting it for four ridings

00:19:50.380 and the NDP, 87%. I predict that the party could go bankrupt. What do you think, Wyatt?

00:19:56.220 Well, 100%. They might have to sell the Leighton building because that's how they usually were

00:20:00.860 funding their campaigns. You bring in a good chunk of donations. You put that up as like proof that you

00:20:07.020 can fundraise to a bank. Then you take out a massive few million dollar loan on the Jack Leighton

00:20:12.220 building in Ottawa. And then you run a bunch of candidates. And what I've heard from NDP insiders

00:20:17.100 is it doesn't matter how that money was raised and spent. They just act like a kleptocracy after

00:20:21.580 the election and to steal all of the rebate checks that every single ride was given until they actually

00:20:26.780 pay off the building. And then the local ridings can start to fundraise their own money again,

00:20:31.980 knowing that they will have to pay back their rebate to the party at once the election is over.

00:20:37.180 The thing with Jagmeet Singh, too, is that he probably didn't even benefit the Liberals against

00:20:43.820 the Conservatives as much as he thought. The blue collar ridings that the NDP held,

00:20:48.700 the Conservatives grabbed them. That's why they were winning so well in Windsor. It's not that those

00:20:55.740 were NDP ridings before, but the whole point is that the NDP had a substantial vote there,

00:21:00.060 oftentimes with the ridings where the Conservatives came in third. But they ended up grabbing up pretty

00:21:05.100 much 100% of the NDP vote because the type of person voting NDP in that area is far more likely

00:21:11.420 to go conservative if the NDP pulls out and just puts up a paper candidate and barely tries.

00:21:16.620 And then the other ridings that the NDP lost were in like downtown Vancouver, downtown Toronto,

00:21:23.020 where you should be competing as hard as possible because this is a riding where it's either going

00:21:27.500 to be Liberal or NDP. But Jagmeet Singh had managed this election so poorly that it's basically just

00:21:34.380 because of the personality and character of some of their MPs that were able to hold on that got them

00:21:40.940 through. So he ended up stripping out every single virtue for somebody on the left that the NDP held.

00:21:46.940 And so now the party basically came in a distant, distant fourth for what? The benefit of giving

00:21:55.420 like Mark Carney, a slightly bigger minority when they could have had those seats.

00:22:01.100 It's really interesting. I don't know what will happen with the party. They've got the work cut

00:22:04.540 out for them, whether they do want to rebuild or whether they just want to fold and put their votes

00:22:08.620 in with the Liberals. And then we'll have a real two party system in Canada. But it's hard to imagine

00:22:13.740 them recovering. I want to move on because we've got a few more names to get to here. So we talked

00:22:16.860 about them quite a bit at the beginning of the show, but Maxime Bernier and the People's Party

00:22:21.180 were losers. And the losing didn't stop for Maxime Bernier on election day. He came out afterwards on

00:22:25.900 X and was just, he was just whining and he sounded like a sore loser. I'm going to read what he had to

00:22:30.780 say here on X. He said, so in this election, the PPC lost roughly 700,000 of its 840,000 votes from

00:22:37.500 2021, 83%. That's not a flex, man. That's embarrassing. You got wiped out and that's how you're responding.

00:22:43.340 He writes, I suspect the vast majority voted for the conservatives having to come to the

00:22:47.420 don't split the vote. We must beat the libs at this time hysteria. No, that's not true. I will admit,

00:22:52.460 I voted for Maxime Bernier and the People's Party in 2021 as well, for the opposite reason,

00:22:56.860 probably that you did, Wyatt. I was living in Rosedale at the time, University of Rosedale,

00:23:01.100 Christia Freeland's riding, and the conservatives had absolutely no hope. So my vote did not matter.

00:23:05.420 And I figured I might as well do the principal's vote. I liked Maxime Bernier better than Aaron O'Toole.

00:23:09.100 I didn't want to reward the conservatives for running a terrible left-wing campaign. So I voted

00:23:13.020 for them. And this time around, I didn't succumb to the don't split the vote hysteria. I just put

00:23:17.500 my vote back to the party where it usually is because last time around, it was a protest vote.

00:23:21.900 Okay. I'll keep reading from Maxime Bernier. He says, and yet that strategy failed. We still have

00:23:26.860 another liberal government and Polyev couldn't even win his own seat. That's fair. But the insane CPC trolls

00:23:32.380 and the fake independent journalists and influencers paid by the CPC are still accusing the PPC

00:23:37.100 of helping Carney. So all of a sudden we're fake independent journalists. I have interviewed Maxime

00:23:41.580 Bernier on my show half a dozen times or more. I've happily helped promote his cause through my

00:23:46.620 platform. And then the second I'm critical of him and others, he calls us fake independent journalists

00:23:52.860 and accuses influencers of being paid by the CPC. I don't see any influence of that. So to me, this is

00:23:57.980 just poor form. And then he goes on to say that Polyev dropped the ball and that the PPC is a better

00:24:03.740 place to vote. This just comes across as very petty. And yes, just to rub it in a little bit

00:24:07.740 more, the People's Party of Canada got 141,000 votes across the country in this election. That is

00:24:13.420 fewer people than read my emails every single morning. That represents 0.7% of the population.

00:24:19.180 And I'm sorry, Maxime Bernier, you didn't even come close in your own riding. You lost by a landslide.

00:24:24.060 The Conservative candidate there got 60% of the vote. You got 5.8%. You only got 3,600 votes in your own

00:24:31.740 riding. This isn't really a political party anymore. This is sort of just like a personality,

00:24:36.060 like Maxime Bernier should just become a podcaster or become a public intellectual and go back to

00:24:41.420 leading the movement through ideas rather than through politics, because he didn't even try in

00:24:46.140 his own riding. He could have done what Elizabeth May did, just put all of her resources into meeting

00:24:50.140 people, getting to know everyone in the BOSE. I mean, he used to represent that riding. I don't

00:24:54.300 understand why he just doesn't do better there. He needs to have a seat in parliament if he wants to be a

00:24:58.780 politician. Otherwise, I just don't understand what the whole point of it is. Wyatt, what are your

00:25:04.380 thoughts? Someone should go back and analyze, and I have analyzed that race from 2019 when he was

00:25:09.660 trying to win reelection in BOSE back when he was the incumbent. And the problem was that he only lost

00:25:15.980 by 10% back then. I think that he was almost intentionally trying to lose because he only lost

00:25:21.340 by 10% in 2019. Basically never showed up. Did no pre-canvassing before the election of his own riding.

00:25:27.820 Maybe was there for four or five days during the actual election in 2019. And he was off in rural

00:25:35.020 Saskatchewan and Alberta and British Columbia, getting votes in places where they were maybe

00:25:39.900 going to get 3% or 5%. And Maxine Bernier then, in a race where again, if he just flipped 5% of the

00:25:47.100 conservative vote to himself, it would be a tie ballgame. And he, as like a French politician who

00:25:53.660 is very much anti-immigration, could have easily gotten a lot of Bloc Québécois voters to probably

00:25:59.340 swap over to vote for him if he was going to be in an even stronger voice on that issue.

00:26:03.980 I just don't think he really cares. I had him on my show in 2021 and never again because he continues

00:26:10.220 to lie about actually making a constitution for his party. That's the funny thing. He always goes

00:26:15.100 after establishment parties for being very hierarchical at the same time that his party

00:26:19.420 is effectively a dictatorship where, by the way, he frequently swaps in candidates for other people

00:26:25.660 that he just happens to like better even if a nomination went on in a PPC rotting. So the man's

00:26:30.780 a complete hypocrite when he has full power to be as principled as possible. The thing too is at least

00:26:37.420 Maxime Bernier has proven that the American podcast circuit does not get you votes. One, the PPC for

00:26:44.380 some reason couldn't get over two-thirds of the candidates on the ballot. But the man did a podcast

00:26:50.140 tour with every single major conservative influencer in the US and turns out it doesn't matter because

00:26:57.420 most like it sounds shocking but Canadians don't watch a lot of American political news. I know

00:27:04.300 political Canadians will do that because they're interested in the US but there was no way going

00:27:10.060 on the Patrick Bette David podcast was going to help Pierre Polyef. So thank you to Maxime Bernier

00:27:16.140 for proving that nobody cares. That's a really good point. Okay, I want to quickly go through my final

00:27:21.100 losers. I'll just group them together. The final losers for me in this campaign were the legacy media

00:27:27.180 and shining in that was the CBC. They were just so offended and so hurt by the things that happened at the

00:27:33.660 debate and they couldn't hide it in their face. They just came across as so unprofessional, so petty.

00:27:38.860 And I want to couple in with the legacy media, the legacy media's favorite pollsters and the poll

00:27:44.140 aggregators because they just got it wrong. They got the election wrong. I want to show you the 338

00:27:49.500 aggregate polls. So this is taking all the fancy legacy media polls that happened during the campaign

00:27:53.980 on any given day and creating an aggregate list. So like kind of an average of them. And here is what

00:27:59.980 they had the day before the election. Sorry, let me just pull it up here. They had the liberals at 43%,

00:28:06.140 conservatives at 39, NDP at eight, block at six. Okay. How did the election actually finish out?

00:28:10.940 The liberals at 43.7. So, okay, not terrible. 43 to 43.7. The conservatives though at 41.3. So they

00:28:19.180 got them off by a full 2% and they got the NDP off by 2% as well. So again, like why would we ever trust

00:28:27.900 legacy media? And why would we ever trust their pollsters again when they just got this one so

00:28:32.940 wrong? What do you think, Wyatt? And that's aggregating some of the good ones with the bad

00:28:37.340 ones. The particularly bad ones were showing a five to 6% lead for the liberals before election day. So

00:28:45.260 some polling is actually pretty good. But the thing is you have to be very selective with who you follow.

00:28:50.460 There isn't just this, oh, so you're denying the polls. If I look like at an ECOS poll and it's

00:28:54.780 saying a plus eight liberal victory, I'm saying that's not realistic. When I think it was some

00:28:59.820 of the ones like liaison strategies and research code towards the end, we're still saying plus five,

00:29:04.140 plus six liberals. Like, well, that would have been a wipeout. That would have been like 210 seats.

00:29:09.900 And you know, like that, but just because abacus or Main Street did a better job does not then mean

00:29:16.540 I'm going to be thinking, oh, the polling industry is great because if you average it, it's not that bad.

00:29:22.780 The polling industry outside of a couple of firms still has a really bad problem under polling

00:29:28.700 conservatives. And the thing is that you wonder how many people end up looking at it saying,

00:29:32.940 well, I'm not going to vote because the conservatives are losing by six or seven points

00:29:37.580 based on these five pollsters. And there's only two that are even saying it's somewhat close.

00:29:42.540 Got to show up and vote because if the turnout was higher than 70%, I think that would have

00:29:46.940 actually carried the conservatives at least close to winning. And it only came in, I believe,

00:29:51.260 at like 68 and a half. Yeah, well, that's totally the thing. I think that the purpose of the polls

00:29:56.380 in many ways, Wyatt, was to demoralize conservatives, showing the liberals with a huge lead,

00:30:01.420 signaling to Canadians that the right thing to do was to vote liberal, was to put your elbows up,

00:30:05.900 fight against Trump, that whole ridiculous narrative that was constructed by the legacy media. And so they

00:30:11.020 were trying to demoralize there. I think that there was that sort of shy Tory effect where they just

00:30:14.940 didn't want to tell pollsters the truth. And you're right. When you take away the handful,

00:30:19.340 very, the small handful of good ones like Abacus and Main Street, which are at least not as biased

00:30:24.300 as the other ones, the rest of the polls were even worse. Okay. Folks may be wondering why we haven't

00:30:30.460 talked about Pierre Polyev and the conservatives. Did we consider them a winner? Did we consider them

00:30:34.540 a loser? We're going to do another segment where we're going to talk entirely about Pierre Polyev

00:30:38.780 and the conservatives and what we think they did right, what we think they did wrong. So you're

00:30:42.220 going to have to stay tuned for that. All right, folks, thanks so much for tuning in. I'm Candace

00:30:46.140 Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.

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Juno News - May 02, 2025

The Biggest LOSERS of the 2025 Canadian Election

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