Juno News - The Canadian Left respond to the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

00:00:00.020 Kyle Rittenhouse is found not guilty and the left loses its mind. I'm Candice Malcolm and this is

00:00:04.600 the Candice Malcolm Show. Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in. I hope everyone out there

00:00:12.620 had a wonderful weekend out there with their families. It is Monday so we are going to get

00:00:16.980 back into it today. I want to talk about this Kyle Rittenhouse trial. I don't usually focus

00:00:20.780 on U.S. issues here on the show because there's already so much out there where you can find

00:00:24.860 commentary and analysis and opinion on what's happening in the U.S. But for this case it's

00:00:29.720 starting to spill into Canada. So I want to talk about how the left in Canada are reacting to this

00:00:35.400 case and how it's relevant. So in case you haven't been following, I'll just give you a really brief

00:00:40.020 overview. So a jury on Friday found Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty of murder for fatally shooting two men

00:00:46.300 and injuring a third last year during the riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin, marking the end of a

00:00:50.800 contentious trial that pitted the prosecution against the judge. Rittenhouse, who is 18 now,

00:00:55.920 he was 17 at the time of this incident, he lives in a northern suburb of Chicago which is about 15

00:01:01.620 miles from Kenosha, Wisconsin. So on August 25th of 2020, again when he was 17 years old,

00:01:07.020 Rittenhouse decided to patrol downtown Kenosha area along with other armed men in order to protect

00:01:12.340 a used car dealership from looting and vandalism. So he showed up to protect the property of a family

00:01:19.460 friend. He was also there with a first aid kit because he was providing first aid to people who

00:01:24.660 needed it. The city, as you may recall, had devolved into rioting over the police shooting of Jacob

00:01:30.400 Blake who was a black man by a white Kenosha police officer. I only mention the race of the officer and

00:01:36.160 the individual is because that is what the contention was. That was why we saw the looting

00:01:40.080 and rioting as we've seen in so many other instances across both Canada and the U.S. that this

00:01:45.240 racial divide is really being amplified and pitted against people and it's used as a platform for all 0.99

00:01:51.620 all of this bad behavior. So back to Rittenhouse. While guarding this used car dealership, he was

00:01:56.480 chased by a mob and he ended up shooting fatally two people, Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber,

00:02:02.480 injuring a third, Gabe Groskvitz. The defendant and the three men he shot were all white. So even 0.97

00:02:08.600 though the issue has that component of race, the issue here with Kyle Rittenhouse and the three people

00:02:14.160 who shot wasn't a racial issue. It had nothing to do with race. It was amplified onto the national

00:02:18.360 platform because of the connection to the Kenosha rioting and the connection to Jacob Black. So it

00:02:24.260 was all sort of used by the left-wing media to again point to another example of a racism in

00:02:29.260 America, supposedly how this white person, Kyle Rittenhouse, who was a teenager, we were told he

00:02:36.180 was some kind of a white nationalist, that he was a Trump supporter and then he was just there

00:02:39.660 shooting people up. It turns out that wasn't the case at all. So he was arrested and charged with

00:02:44.180 five felony charges, one misdemeanor charge. The most serious charge was intentional homicide,

00:02:49.000 Wisconsin's top murder charge, which carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison. The others

00:02:53.060 were reckless homicide, attempted homicide, two counts of reckless endangerment and being a minor

00:02:58.080 legally in possession of a firearm. And again, if you watch this case, if you watch the trial and

00:03:02.120 the facts come out, which we'll talk about on the show, we'll unpack it all. It became very evident

00:03:06.160 that this young man was acting in self-defense, that the entire media narrative invented about him

00:03:10.740 was a pure, pure fantasy. It was untrue. It wasn't accurate. All of the things that were said

00:03:16.800 about the young man, including the fact that he was a white supremacist, he was on Tucker Carlson

00:03:20.340 and he said that he supports Black Lives Matter. He supports the BLM movements and he supported the

00:03:24.880 protesters who were there. He was, again, simply there to help provide order, to protect property

00:03:29.260 and to provide first aid. So again, the entire media narrative about him was basically false. This is

00:03:35.240 what it looked like, a very, very powerful moment in the courthouse. This is what it looked like when

00:03:39.520 Kyle Rittenhouse was found not guilty.

00:03:41.760 H. Grosskreutz, we the jury find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty.

00:03:50.180 Members of the jury, are these your unanimous verdicts? Is there anyone who does not agree

00:03:55.340 with the verdicts as read? Would you wish the jury pulled? Okay. Okay, folks, your job is done.

00:04:04.100 And today I'm delighted to be joined by a young writer, brilliant young writer who keeps the

00:04:10.120 website slow to write. His name is Samuel Say. And Samuel wrote about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

00:04:16.680 He wrote about how it isn't really about white privilege, but it's about a different kind of

00:04:20.580 privilege. So Samuel, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:04:24.120 Thank you for having me. I'm a big fan. So thank you.

00:04:26.500 Well, we're a big fan of your writing over there. And really, you have a very thoughtful

00:04:31.540 way of looking at things. I like the name of your website as well, slow to write, because

00:04:36.080 you know, it's not like a hot take. It's not like a quick reaction. You're very, very thoughtful in

00:04:41.560 regards to how you analyze these kind of issues. So why don't you tell us a little bit about your

00:04:46.680 take on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and what we're seeing sort of as a reaction?

00:04:52.540 Yeah. Yeah. And the article you're referring to, I say something along the lines of this trial is

00:04:59.360 definitely a consequence of privilege, but Kyle Rittenhouse isn't the beneficiary of that

00:05:05.220 privilege. He's a victim of that of privilege. And what I mean by that is there are two prominent

00:05:10.800 privileges at display here from the beginning of this entire saga in Kenosha and in the trial.

00:05:18.420 And it's primarily black privilege and leftist privilege. What I mean by that is the whole 0.75

00:05:25.860 issue in Kenosha started because a black criminal allegedly was abusing his ex-girlfriend,

00:05:35.940 which led her to get a restraining order against him. And then he violated that in one instance

00:05:42.300 and was attempting to perhaps assault her again. And then she called the cops and the cops came to

00:05:47.760 arrest him. This man is Jacob Blake. And then when the cops were trying to arrest him, he was

00:05:53.660 fighting them off and nearly grabbed a knife, which he later admitted is true. He was about to grab a

00:06:00.040 knife, which would have threatened the cops' lives, of course. And the cops ended up shooting him in the

00:06:04.440 back after several warnings. So immediately the entire, similar to the George Floyd issue, the entire

00:06:12.240 world and cultural institutions ended up attacking the cops as being racist strictly because he was a

00:06:18.660 black man for no other reason, but because he's a black man, which led to the riots. And then of course, 0.99

00:06:24.400 that prompted Kyle Rittenhouse to go to the riots to defend a family friend and to help protect the area

00:06:33.140 that he's very familiar with. And in there are some of the supporters who are leftist white men attacked

00:06:43.040 him. And I've seen the entire video. He clearly was acting in self-defense as a jury recognized as well,

00:06:50.040 too. And these white leftists, these people who are trying to harm him and one, Gage, I'm forgetting how to say his last name,

00:06:59.300 but the key witnesses, his first name is Gage. I think it's Grotsquist, something like that. He,

00:07:05.140 he actually took out a pistol and was about to shoot him in the head before Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:07:11.460 And incredibly, like he was, he honestly was very brave in his, in his entire demeanor. He ended up

00:07:17.780 shooting him in the arm to keep this man for shooting him in the head. So then this white, 0.98

00:07:23.620 perhaps conservative, I can't call him a leftist. I don't know exactly where he is,

00:07:28.500 but he would assume he is some kind of a conservative. He, he then is, is, is on trial

00:07:36.420 for homicide. Meanwhile, the people who were trying to harm him, who are white leftists are

00:07:42.660 seen as victims, including the two who were killed and the, and the one that was injured.

00:07:47.300 My point in saying all of that is a lot of conservatives, I think mistakenly say this is a

00:07:51.860 matter of what Kyle Rittenhouse's skin color. I don't think so necessarily. I think it plays a role.

00:07:58.500 But I think considering that his victims, well, I shouldn't say victims because his attackers,

00:08:03.700 his attackers were, were white. I think it's that he is a white conservative. That's the real issue.

00:08:12.020 And it's, so that's why I'm saying that it's really a matter of black privilege and leftist

00:08:16.180 privilege. If he was a leftist, he would not have, you know, he would not have been on trial. The same

00:08:20.260 way that Antifa, many of them being leftists have been attacking people for,

00:08:23.860 for several years now. And there've been very little justice against them.

00:08:29.060 Well, and that was part of the thing. I mean, there's, there's so much that we can unpack in

00:08:32.420 what you just said. Let's start with the initial interaction with the police that led to all the

00:08:38.100 rioting. Because to me, from my perspective, Samuel, so much of it kind of blurs together. There's been

00:08:43.220 so many instances of a, what appears, you know, at first sight to be an instance of police brutality

00:08:49.620 caught on tape. We know that when something's caught on tape, you're not really getting

00:08:53.380 necessarily the full perspective. I remember that with the Covington High School kids, that all of the,

00:08:58.660 all of the footage that originally came out kind of showed these boys perhaps being the aggressors

00:09:04.180 and, and, and, and starting it. And then once we saw the full context, it became very clear that

00:09:08.340 the boys were just, you know, waiting for their bus to bring them back to school. And that, you know,

00:09:12.980 the, the other side were the agitators, the, and, and, and it changed the entire perspective. So,

00:09:17.300 so with this specific case with Jacob, like, I remember this one pretty distinctly because I just

00:09:22.660 happened to be watching the news closely. When it happened, I took some interest in it because,

00:09:27.140 because like you said, you know, this was an instance of a dangerous criminal who was violating a

00:09:33.300 restraining order by harassing and perhaps even raping his, his former girlfriend. And she is 0.68

00:09:39.620 the one that called the police to get him out of there. And once, once the police arrived, he was

00:09:43.620 evading them. And, and, and then it wasn't until he sort of dove into his car to grab at something,

00:09:48.260 we don't know what it was, um, that, that he was shot. So I, I just, you know, wanted, wanted to know

00:09:55.460 your, your perspective on these cases. Do you think that there is a problem with police brutality in the

00:10:01.380 U S do you think that there is an issue, an underlying issue with, with racism and police,

00:10:06.020 or, or do you think that, that like this case with Jacob black, uh, that the police are for the most

00:10:11.300 part, well-trained and, and, and really just get a bad rap from the, the sort of prevalence of, um,

00:10:18.100 people, people focusing on anecdotal evidence and not the statistics and people focusing on the fact

00:10:24.340 that we can now see because of cell phone footage and things like that, we can now see what police

00:10:29.540 interaction with, you know, law enforcement looks like, and, and, and to some people,

00:10:33.620 it's just jarring. They don't, they don't like it. So where, where on the spectrum do you, do lie on

00:10:37.300 that issue? Well, one kind, one example of police brutality is one too many, right? So on, on just on

00:10:46.500 that at all, I will say that of course there is police brutality, but that's true everywhere. I think

00:10:51.620 the issue is that it's completely and utterly overblown. Uh, it's not anywhere near as prevalent as some

00:10:58.180 make it out to be. Um, when it comes to them being well-trained, that's where I would say there's

00:11:03.220 an issue. Um, from my understanding, there is a lack of training involved. Even now, all the talks

00:11:09.780 about police reform, it's really dealing with defunding them, which will just make things worse,

00:11:14.820 of course, or it's just, uh, body cam footage, which is good, but the problem is it's still not going

00:11:20.500 to be dealing with their real issue, which is that they're underfunded actually in many ways,

00:11:24.820 and they are not receiving the country in where they need, where the only kind of training they

00:11:29.060 have now is, well, if your life is in danger, shoot. And if your life, if their life is in

00:11:32.900 danger, they should do that. But there are certain things they can learn before that, which would be

00:11:37.060 helpful, um, for them to be, um, to, to avoid being in a situation where their lives are in danger.

00:11:42.900 In terms of the racist aspect, um, in almost all these cases about police brutality against

00:11:50.420 black people, racism is, is, cannot be proved as the basis for this. Uh, even now, people don't

00:11:58.580 want to talk about this, but even the George Floyd issue, which is now considered the most,

00:12:02.500 um, the biggest example of police brutality against the black in a racist fashion, there is no evidence

00:12:09.140 at all that it was racist. You can talk about it being police brutality and everything else, but in

00:12:13.140 terms of the motivations behind it, we don't know that at all. So, um, I don't think there is a case at

00:12:19.300 all of, um, in fact, uh, black police officers are actually much more likely to, um, to be, you know,

00:12:28.020 to, to, to commit police brutality against black people than white people are, than white cops are. 0.64

00:12:33.860 So I don't think racism at all is the issue here. I think it is oftentimes, um, that the cops are

00:12:40.020 justified most of the time in these cases, at least in this major cases, and people just not

00:12:44.900 understanding what good police work really looks like. And then you see these videos and they think,

00:12:49.060 well, wait a minute, these cops are being aggressive. Well, they have to be aggressive.

00:12:52.660 Otherwise, yeah, otherwise they'll not go home that night. We've, you know, we talk a lot about

00:12:59.780 these interactions when it comes to police being the aggressors in times. Well, uh, in America,

00:13:04.660 every year, 50 cops are killed. Um, and that's actually much more than the number of unarmed black

00:13:11.220 people that they kill, right? It's significantly more than many imagine. So these cops are, are aware

00:13:18.100 that oftentimes if they, if they don't, um, if they're not aggressive in defending their lives,

00:13:23.060 they will not go home. Right. And, and, okay. So then in your, in your article, you talk about,

00:13:27.780 in your essay, you talk about what you call black privilege. So, so after, after, uh, Jacob Blake was

00:13:33.540 shot, he wasn't killed, but he was, I believe paralyzed. Um, we, we immediately saw the reaction,

00:13:40.020 which looked very similar to the George Floyd reaction where, you know, there were some honest to

00:13:44.500 goodness, protesters who were just out there saying, we don't like the system. We don't like

00:13:48.180 what's going on in our community. But then what we see is there's always a sort of, you know,

00:13:52.820 bad apples that, that take advantage of the situation and they want to go out and they want

00:13:56.820 to riot. And it seemed like, uh, one of the individuals that, that, that was killed this

00:14:01.220 evening by, um, from the gun of Kyle Rittenhouse, uh, was one of these individuals. This guy had spent

00:14:06.020 a bunch of time in prison. He was a pedophile. He, he was a sex offender. Um, he, he just was like,

00:14:11.060 seemed like a pretty bad dude. Um, not black. He was white and, and he was one of the people, 1.00

00:14:15.620 but, but it seems like when, whenever there's a case of, of, of sort of justice, the justice

00:14:20.980 system coming up in the public face, you know, there's that mix. And, you know, we see, I believe

00:14:27.380 that the, the, the, you know, the funny CNN Chiron, that, um, fiery yet peaceful protests came

00:14:32.260 from this Kenosha riot, but, but, but from watching this, this, uh, trial, you know, all of the elements

00:14:38.820 were there, they were rioting, they were rioting and Samuel, we saw it over the weekend. So I, I used

00:14:43.140 to live in San Francisco. I spent a few years living there and I saw some footage from San

00:14:47.860 Francisco from Walnut Creek of basically just people taking advantage of this, this outcome

00:14:54.260 to go and loot and riot, very expensive stores. We're talking about Louis Vuitton and Nordstrom.

00:14:59.300 Uh, I think we have some, some footage of that. So, so we're going to play, uh, this clip and then,

00:15:03.940 and then I'll get you to react. So, so let's see what that looked like.

00:15:06.420 Like a well-organized operation, people sprinted to waiting cars, carrying bags full of merchandise

00:15:13.300 from Nordstrom's in Walnut Creek Saturday night. I saw people running down the street. I probably

00:15:18.020 saw 50 to 80 people in like ski masks, crowbars night, like a bunch of weapons.

00:15:22.900 In one dramatic scene, a car veered around a police SUV to make a getaway, but another officer stopped

00:15:29.380 him with his gun drawn. Three people were arrested. All are charged with robbery. One of them is also

00:15:34.820 charged with being a felon in possession of a gun. NBC Bay Area has obtained a still image from a

00:15:40.340 security camera inside Nordstrom's during the robbery. A company spokesperson says five of their

00:15:46.020 employees were injured. Police saying at least three workers were assaulted, one with pepper spray.

00:15:51.380 And tonight there is still cause for concern. Walnut Creek police took to social media,

00:15:55.780 warning about the possibility of another robbery. Some high-end shops like Tiffany's closed early.

00:16:01.620 Janet Catalano and Marnie Pantar were the last customers in the store as staff locked their

00:16:07.140 doors. How are they in there? They're a little nervous. They are a little nervous for sure,

00:16:11.940 as as I would be too, if I worked retail in this area right now. In a prepared statement,

00:16:16.740 the mayor of Walnut Creek says the city is actively working to try to prevent any of these incidents

00:16:22.420 from happening here again. And you can see that they are already taking efforts. The street going

00:16:28.020 through Broadway Plaza Mall has been blocked off for most of the day. And police officers are

00:16:33.220 everywhere. Nordstrom's is still closed, a bit of an inconvenience for customer Frank Augustin,

00:16:37.940 who couldn't return a pair of shoes. It's such a shame that, you know, we have to worry about

00:16:42.100 this. You see it in San Francisco at the Louis Vuitton on Friday night. The situation in Walnut Creek

00:16:47.860 coming just 24 hours after a similar robbery in San Francisco. Nine stores were either burglarized or

00:16:53.940 vandalized. Some store workers were also injured. There have been eight arrests so far. And San

00:16:59.300 Francisco's police chief says there will be more. In Walnut Creek, Sergio Quintana, NBC Bay Area News.

00:17:06.180 So Samuel, so maybe you can help us break down this phenomenon. Why do people get away with

00:17:12.420 this kind of looting and rioting in the aftermath of a public decision? And why do you describe all of

00:17:17.540 this as black privilege? Yeah, I think there's two reasons behind it. One is there's a soft bigotry

00:17:25.620 of low expectations for black people in that people think so lowly of black people that they think, well,

00:17:31.140 what do you expect when they have, when there's so-called living under oppression? Therefore,

00:17:37.540 then that they expect us to live like animals where we just end up going around scrapping for goods.

00:17:42.500 So that's the first reason. The other reason is, and I think this is a much more sinister reason behind

00:17:50.580 all of this, is that black privilege exists because leftist and critical race theorists want to use

00:17:57.220 racism as a basis for changing the system, as a basis for creating a revolution. I think that is

00:18:04.100 what's really at play here, is that they don't, the reason why they would defend and eulogize and speak

00:18:10.740 well of pedophiles and, you know, and abusers is because they're willing to use anything they

00:18:16.660 possibly can to change the system. So Kyle Rittenhouse really isn't, they don't, they hate

00:18:22.900 Kyle Rittenhouse, but only because he is an example of a person who is defending or who still supports

00:18:29.060 the American constitution in that he still believes in second amendment, of course, because he had that,

00:18:34.740 you know, that rifle with him. And I think it's really about changing the system and changing

00:18:41.060 America's founding principles, or really Western principles, and not so much these individual cases.

00:18:46.420 Well, yeah, so one of the things that came out, so I'll just say when the case, this trial,

00:18:51.700 the facts of it first came up before it was a trial, but just when it hit the media that some people

00:18:56.020 were killed during these riots, and it seemed like, you know, it was a white, it was some kind of a

00:19:01.220 white nationalist or white supremacist that was, you know, they're shooting it up. That's sort of

00:19:05.140 the impression that we got from the media. And it wasn't really until you look at the facts of the

00:19:09.860 case, when it became the trial, you start to look at some of the video footage, where it became pretty

00:19:14.580 obvious, pretty evident, Sam, that this was a case of self-defense. You know, I saw a video of this young

00:19:19.300 man, and he was talking about how he was there to provide first aid. So he had his medical kit right

00:19:25.220 on him. You know, he's just said the gun is for self-defense. And then right in the middle of an

00:19:29.540 interview, he ran off because he was trying to help somebody. So it seemed like someone who was

00:19:33.300 there, yes, to defend the property of a family friend who owned a car dealership where the cars

00:19:37.780 were getting torched, and there was millions of dollars in damage every night. But he was also

00:19:42.340 like a, he was a good citizen, you know, you could describe him as someone who was there

00:19:47.940 to help maintain order in a very chaotic time in American life. And yet, like you said, because of the

00:19:54.580 way he looked, because of perhaps the principles that he was upholding, the media just did their best to

00:19:59.380 demonize him in a way that was so divorced from reality after watching the facts of this case.

00:20:05.620 And we saw some of that in Canada too, Sam. I just want to read a couple of the kind of reactions

00:20:11.700 that we saw. So Jagmeet Singh, who's a leader of the NDP party, a leader of a political party in Canada,

00:20:17.060 he says this, I knew today's verdict is painful for many. It feels like another failure by a broken

00:20:22.180 system designed to protect some and hurt others. For those that carry such grief and must continue to

00:20:28.100 witness denials of justice. My heart is with you. So, so first of all, he's saying that the,

00:20:32.820 that the US is, he's commenting on the justice system of a foreign country, saying that it is a 0.65

00:20:37.780 broken system that is designed to protect some and hurt others. And then he says, he says flat out that

00:20:44.500 it's a denial of justice. So I suppose Jagmeet Singh would rather see a young man convicted of murder,

00:20:50.580 a murder that he didn't commit. He didn't commit murder, he commit, he was found not guilty of that.

00:20:55.380 He was acting in self-defense. So why is it that, that, that people like Jagmeet Singh,

00:21:00.660 and I mean, there's others, Toronto Star writer, Shree Pardikar, I think that's how you pronounce

00:21:08.180 her name, Shree Pardikar. She writes, damn the laws that acquit Kyle Rittenhouse,

00:21:12.980 for they show no care for justice. So no care for justice. Charles Adler, popular radio host,

00:21:18.900 though used to be a conservative, but now he's gone the other direction. He says, there are those who think

00:21:23.780 that if Kyle Rittenhouse was a young African American, the verdict would be the same. I am

00:21:27.540 not one of those. What do you think of these Canadians commenting and what do you think of

00:21:32.980 their take on the US justice system? Yeah. You know, we all know that America

00:21:39.140 absolutely influences Canada and that we, there are a lot of similarities there. But when you are

00:21:46.020 a, an, an elected official and you're commenting, as you said, on a foreign, on a foreign nation's

00:21:53.700 system, essentially, that is, that is, that's a major problem. But the reason why Jagmeet Singh is

00:21:58.660 saying that is because he believes the same thing about Canada. He believes that our system is also

00:22:03.860 broken and that it's only designed for a particular kind of people and to harm other people. I mean,

00:22:08.660 AOC said the same thing. AOC is really his counterpart in the US. And AOC said the same thing about

00:22:13.620 America's system that basically it's designed for white supremacists to protect white people and to

00:22:19.540 harm non-white people. And this is really a very, very important thing. I think a lot of us 1.00

00:22:24.980 conservatives are focusing on the wrong issue here. We're focusing on the racial aspect here. And that,

00:22:31.460 I mean, that is true. This is really about a racial issue, but, but the racial issue, as I said earlier,

00:22:36.420 is being used as a basis to change the system in America and in Canada. That critical race there is 0.86

00:22:42.580 and leftists believe that our Western system is broken. They truly believe that it was,

00:22:48.180 it was designed to be broken to, for everybody else and to privilege, to privilege other white people.

00:22:55.540 So when Joe Biden himself also called Kyra in the House a white supremacist, they know he's not,

00:23:01.780 they didn't, they don't care. They're just saying that the entire system that people like him

00:23:06.500 want to defend is white supremacy. And therefore they need to change the system and then to truly

00:23:13.460 get rid of due process, which is why they ignoring that a vert, that there was a verdict reached by a

00:23:18.500 jury. They're ignoring all that because they believe that entire system is meant to support white 0.90

00:23:25.380 supremacy and white privilege. So I think that the real issue is that we need to recognize that these

00:23:29.940 Canadians and these Americans who are angry at the verdicts, at least not all of them, but many of them,

00:23:35.300 some of them don't know the facts, right? But those who do know the facts, they're simply ignoring the

00:23:39.540 facts as a means to change the system into a more socialist and or so-called anti-racist and communist

00:23:47.620 system. Well, it's just so interesting that again, from watching the facts of this case, Samuel,

00:23:52.660 the thing that seemed unfair to me was the fact that this was even on trial. The fact that this was even a

00:23:57.380 high profile case, because as soon as the facts were there, I mean, all they had to do is prove reasonable

00:24:02.020 doubt. And surely it wasn't like they described. And I'm surprised that a prosecutor would have

00:24:08.420 even taken this case up. You know, you said that many of them don't really know the facts of the

00:24:12.500 case. I'm not trying to pick on Robin Urbeck here because I think she's a really good writer, but

00:24:16.420 this is what she put on Twitter. And it kind of just goes with our conversation. So I'm going to read

00:24:21.060 it out. And pardon my language, because I'm going to read what she writes. And it's not,

00:24:24.580 it's not entirely, it's not entirely sanitized. But anyway, she says, notwithstanding how much of

00:24:32.900 an asshole this guy is for carrying around a rifle during a protest, like a dress up GI Joe doll, 0.98

00:24:37.700 the prosecution's case here was pretty tough. The defense didn't have to prove Rittenhouse was

00:24:41.460 acting in self-defense. The prosecution had to disprove it. So it seems like my takeaway from that

00:24:45.780 tweet was that Robin was mostly offended by the way this guy looked, right? She called him an

00:24:50.980 asshole. And she said he was dressed up like a GI Joe doll. I, you know, I travel around the world

00:24:56.100 and I know that a lot of, in a lot of places where the situation is chaotic and unstable,

00:25:01.060 that you see weapons, you see people, usually military, but in some, in some places you see

00:25:04.980 plainclothes officers, like in Israel, you go just about anywhere in Israel and you see people

00:25:10.260 with weapons across your chest in the same way that Kyle Rittenhouse looked like, because they're

00:25:14.500 there to protect people in case of, in case of any kind of an attack. And, and, you know, some people

00:25:19.860 might not like that, that that's the reality in the United States, but, but you mentioned the

00:25:23.780 second amendment and that's part of it. And it didn't seem like from the interviews that I saw

00:25:27.620 of Kyle Rittenhouse, the night of the protest, you know, he wasn't there as a vigilante. He was there

00:25:32.020 again to keep order and to try to protect people. And, and, and yet again, because of the way he looks,

00:25:37.300 I think it's turned into this racial animosity. And the other thing, Samuel, is that the three people 0.63

00:25:42.820 that got shot that night were all white. They were all sort of Antifa type rebel rousers that looked,

00:25:48.500 it seemed like from all the evidence that we saw in the case, were there to cause no good.

00:25:52.180 The, the fellow you mentioned, Gabe, who, who drew a gun and, and, and tried to shoot

00:25:56.100 Cameron Rittenhouse in the head, he was there as an ACLU observer. So he, he's sort of part of the

00:26:00.820 leftist institutions that we're supposed to revere and respect if you're watching the legacy media.

00:26:05.700 And yet, you know, from, from his own testimony on the stands, seemed to me that he was, he was

00:26:10.740 much more there as a criminal as opposed to a peaceful protester. So a final question for you,

00:26:16.660 you know, all of this is just to say, what's, what's the kind of takeaway that we can have?

00:26:21.140 And what can conservatives do to sort of push back against all, you know,

00:26:24.900 this entire cultural war that we find ourselves in the middle of?

00:26:28.820 Yeah, I think, you know,

00:26:33.780 we need to recognize that, honestly, a lot of white people, white Canadians, white Americans need to be,

00:26:39.540 need to stop being afraid of being called white supremacists or, or, or white privileged,

00:26:44.180 because they believe that about every white person, especially if you're a conservative.

00:26:47.860 You just need to know that they're saying that really because of the view of Western,

00:26:52.740 uh, the Western system, the Western society. And, and really, it's not really about you,

00:26:57.060 because if you support Black Lives Matter, then they say, okay, then you are the good kind of white 0.65

00:27:00.580 person then. So it's really just an attack on you and your, and your good principles. It's not because

00:27:06.580 of your character, because with Kyle Rodenhouse, they didn't know anyone's character. They were simply

00:27:10.420 attacking him instead of his attackers, instead of the criminals who were trying to end his life,

00:27:16.340 because they were supporting Black Lives Matter. They were on the right side by supporting the riots. 0.99

00:27:22.340 But if you are against the riots, then you are the enemy. So just knowing that it's not really an

00:27:26.500 attack against your character, it's an attack against your principles. I think also just recognizing

00:27:33.620 what critical race theory is, you know, as I mentioned before, this is really about leftist privilege

00:27:38.820 and Black privilege and not white privilege. Um, that is what these guys wants, what the leftists

00:27:44.340 want. They want to change America. They want to change Canada and, and to, and to get rid of the 0.98

00:27:50.020 founding principles that, that created these nations. And they're willing to use things like

00:27:54.260 this. They're willing to use racial issues and every issue as a, as a way to manipulate and

00:28:00.500 indoctrinate people into wanting to get rid of the system, a system that would actually help someone like

00:28:06.740 Kyle Rittenhouse from being a victim of mob justice. Right. Well, protect him from being

00:28:12.020 wrongfully accused. I mean, that used to be a cornerstone of our society. We're so proud of

00:28:16.980 due process and the rule of law. And today it seems like those things are demonized. Well, Samuel,

00:28:21.380 thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for your brilliant writing over at slow to write.com.

00:28:25.220 We really appreciate hearing from you. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much.

00:28:29.540 All right. Thanks for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.

00:28:36.740 I'm Candace Malcolm, and I'll see you ashran.

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Juno News - November 22, 2021

The Canadian Left respond to the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

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