Juno News - November 15, 2019
The Candice Malcolm Show: The mainstream media continues to pile on to Don Cherry
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Summary
Candice Malan explains why she doesn't like Don Cherry and why she thinks he's a bigot and a misogynist. She also explains why the mainstream media loves him and why he's not part of her Canada.
Transcript
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You can say hateful and bigoted things on television, as long as you're part of the
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political left. The mainstream media continues to pile on to Don Cherry, who remains bravely
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defiant. And a hate preacher in London, Ontario encourages Canadian Muslims not to honor
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Remembrance Day. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
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All right, guys, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you so much for tuning in. So I'm going
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to focus the first part of the show today on this segment from a show called The Social.
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Now, if you're anything like me, you probably never heard of this show before, but essentially
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it is CTV's version of The View. So it's like the cringy Canadian content version of a successful
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American show. But from best I can tell, there's no sort of any kind of disagreement among the
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hosts. I actually had to sit and watch several segments of the show. So yes, you should pity
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me for that. But these women all just sit and nod in agreement. They have no intellectual diversity
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whatsoever. They all just agree. And hearing them kind of pile on and call names and just
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sort of show how hateful they are of everyday Canadians, of normal Canadians, it was just really
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awful. And the idea that a media company, CTV, would think that this is a good idea, this is like
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the thing that Canada needs, is a bunch of sort of elitist women sitting in downtown Toronto,
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talking about very superficial things, very vapidly, but then promoting this sort of SJW
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far left culture beyond me. But anyways, let's go through this clip. I got a lot of requests
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from people. A lot of people into North Nation were very upset about this clip, probably more so
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even than the original Don Cherry stuff. Now, obviously, we had a petition, 60,000 signatures
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standing with Don Cherry. But this really, really irked people. And I'm going to explain why.
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So first of all, let's go to the clip. This is the main part of the clip that everyone was talking
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about. It is a woman called Jessie Allen, who is actually a former mainstream media journalist.
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She was a Maclean's editor. She's a columnist for Metro newspapers. And so here she is talking
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about her experiences as to why she doesn't like Don Cherry, but also why she doesn't like
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vast swaths of the Canadian public. So let's play that clip.
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I think it struck a nerve because I'm told he's a Canadian icon and he's a symbol of the
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great sport of hockey, which is the sport that unites us across this country. And that
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narrative is the one that strikes a nerve with me because I don't worship at the altar
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of hockey. I never have. And maybe it's because of where I grew up, but there's a, and going
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to a couple of different universities, there's a certain type of person in my mind, in my experience,
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who does. And they all tended to be white boys who weren't, um, let's say very nice.
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They were not generally thoughtful. They were often bullies. Uh, their parents were able
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to afford to put them, you know, spend $5,000 a year on minor hockey instead of $5,000, a
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lot of money. You can do other things besides spending your time in an arena. You can go on
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a trip and learn about the world, see other things, eh? You know, like it's, the place is,
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the, the world is a big place. Maybe get sight out of that bubble. And for me, Don Cherry
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is the walking and talking representative of that type. And he's the type of person that
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now people want to like, and I know he's done some good things, but at the same time,
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when someone good is also able to make fun of people who believe in climate science, who's
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also able to be like, whether he's charming or not, but he's still a bigot and a misogynist
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when you're, you know, to have those two things, like I dismiss those people. I find
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it embarrassing. I find it embarrassing that there's a big chunk of the country that is
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so upset about this. Hockey doesn't mean anything to me. I'm sorry. It's not part of my Canada.
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So, you know, you can see, basically this woman is lecturing Canadians, telling them that
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you shouldn't spend your $5,000 a year going to the hockey arena, you know, a place where
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young men and young women can gain leadership skills, can work as part of a team, can connect
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with the community, all that stuff. She doesn't recognize any of that stuff. She kind of boils
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it down to saying hockey players are a bunch of white boys who are not very worldly and not
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very nice. Well, that's called stereotyping. That is called being a bigot, saying that from
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my own narrow experiences, I've met a couple of people that are like this. So I'm going to
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apply that to everybody in that group. That's stereotyping. That's bigotry, plain and simple.
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And of course, when, if she was talking about any other group, aside from what she calls
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white boys, or she was talking about any other group, we know that she would have been fired
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already. We know that. But because she's talking about white boys, she's talking about the sort
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of mainstream culture in Canada. Not only does she get a pass, but she gets celebrated by
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the sort of vapid SJW culture. And it's so unfortunate. I have a completely opposite experience
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from Jesse Allen here. I played hockey growing up. I played both on the boys' teams and on
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the girls' teams. And my experience is, yeah, especially as a girl playing hockey with young
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guys, you know, starting in grade four, grade five, there's definitely some bullying that
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happened. But like, by the end of the season, you know, there's a girl on the team. At first,
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you're kind of like, why is this girl playing with us? By the end of the season, those guys
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were my good friends, kind of brothers to me. They were always there for me. And, you know,
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you kind of realize that there's really good people in this sport. So if you just take the
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kind of idea that everyone who plays a sport is a bully, you never actually explore, you
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never play it yourself, you're not going to have a good understanding of what a sport is
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actually about. And again, it's just so unfortunate. She says that instead of spending $5,000, how
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about you go on a trip? How about you go travel around the world? Well, okay, first of all,
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we live in a free country. So you can choose to spend $5,000 on hockey, or you can choose
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to spend $5,000 on a trip somewhere. And also, you can do both. There's nothing that says that
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people who are hockey players are somehow ignorant or unworldly. A lot of people do both. And then,
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of course, you know, she talks about her experiences in multiple universities. You know,
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she's the kind of person who went to multiple universities, who spent probably tens and tens
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of thousands of dollars, most of it taxpayer dollars, earning useless university degrees.
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She has a university degree in art history. So she's lecturing Canadians about what they should
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spend their money on. Meanwhile, she goes out and gets pretty useless university degrees. And again,
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just this idea of like uppity Toronto people talking down at the rest of the country is just
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the kind of stuff that really boils your blood. It doesn't end there. You know, that was a clip
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that was widely circulated. All of the hosts on this show basically all held the exact same opinion,
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which was that Don Cherry is a bigot, sort of celebrating this cancel culture, and then taking
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shots at anyone who supports Cherry, anyone who supports hockey, you name it, they went after it.
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So let's play a different clip. This one is another one of the hosts. This is a host called
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Cynthia Loyst. And she's first talking about how Don Cherry used those people. And, you know,
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the whole controversy here is about Don Cherry's use of the word you people. And you can you can
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interpret that however you'd like. This is her interpretation, which frankly, this is the
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interpretation of most of the mainstream media and most of the mob that's piling on to Don Cherry.
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It's the most uncharitable interpretation of his words. And this is what they believe.
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He could have said, everyone should wear more poppies. I would want to see more people wear
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poppies. He did not say that. What he did say was those people and anybody who's had like a
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grandfather in their life or a weird uncle has heard references to the those people. And those
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people are always a certain type of people. They have a certain type of skin color. Everyone knows
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the subtext of what those people mean. And that's what he said. So let's just start with that. He did
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not just say everyone to wear poppies. We wouldn't be sitting here having this discussion today. Can we
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agree upon that? We would not be. So first of all, she's talking about how grandparents,
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grandfathers and weird uncles are usually bigots, which is kind of a slight against everyone's
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grandfather out there or any grandpa out there. No, just because someone's from a different
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generation doesn't make them by virtue of being from a different generation, a bigot, which is
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exactly what she's suggesting, which again, is kind of bigoted against old people. But then, you know,
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her main point is that you just can't say you people that has become now a banned racial slur,
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according to these people who are standing on their soapbox and looking down their noses that
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Canadians. So according to her own logic, you can't use you people. But then wait a minute,
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this happens like two minutes later in the segment. So isn't hockey supposed to be something,
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actually all sports, the idea, and again, this is the non-sporto, I thought you people who are into
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sports. I thought you people who are into sports, you people, you people, you people.
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So of course she can say you people, even though she just said that it's horrible and racist. She can
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say you people because she's talking about people who play sports. Again, this is like the obvious
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double standard on the left. You can be hateful. You can be a bigot. You can talk about groups and
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put groups down and do all the stereotyping that you accuse the other side of doing. You do it yourself,
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but it's okay because you're a good guy. You're on the good side. That's the mindset of all these
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people. Now I tweeted this out and Cynthia took issue with my tweet. She posted her own tweet saying,
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a bit louder for the people in the back, when I said you people yesterday in reference to sports fan,
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I did it intentionally as a joke with irony. Don't at me. I've already moved on. Cheers.
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Really? That was supposed to be a joke. I mean, listen, I watched the segment, like I said,
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and they have this live studio audience who kind of does this over the top, like cheering and clapping
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every time they make a point or anytime you make a joke. And you can tell that they didn't do that at
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that point. There's no sense of irony in her voice. And regardless, if she had just made a point that
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using you people is a racial slur, then she shouldn't be joking about racism. She shouldn't
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be making racist jokes. Of course, if someone on the other side was making a racist joke,
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she would be all over it. But now apparently she's allowed to be making a racist joke,
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even though she clearly was not joking. She didn't know what she was doing. She didn't catch it.
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Regardless, this is what the mainstream media is saying and doing. These ladies are not the only ones
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who are just kind of doubling down on the narrative that Don Cherry is a racist and a bigot. And we've
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had a couple of days to cool down. Don Cherry is still fired. He hasn't been invited back. Most of
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the mainstream media, I would say, with the exception of a few voices at the Toronto Sun,
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the paper that I write for, the entire mainstream media has taken aside even the National Post,
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which is supposed to be a conservative paper, had like five or six articles all about how Don Cherry
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is awful and he has to go. So here you have one of those issues where like so many Canadians,
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there's been a groundswell of Canadians that goes far beyond the left-right divide. Canadians across
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the country, people who like sports, who like hockey, who just enjoy that part of our culture,
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have kind of just taken a stand against political correctness. And yet the entire media, with the
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small exception of the Toronto Sun, is making the opposite point. They're saying this was racism.
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This was him taking a shot against immigrants. Well, Don Cherry's had the chance to explain himself.
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And I think that his explanation, again, just goes to show that what he was saying was not hateful.
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It was not bigoted. He, sure, he made an inarticulate remark. And he even says himself
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that he wished he had said it differently. So here's what Don Cherry said to CTV.
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I don't regret anything that I said. I wish I had said it different. I wish I had said everybody,
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instead of what I said. I forget what I said now. You people. I should have said everybody.
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And I still believe that everybody should wear a poppy. Everybody. I don't mean one or two. And
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I still say downtown Toronto and Mississauga, they did not wear a poppy. So he said it to CTV. He said
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it to Tucker Carlson. His only regret is that he wished instead of saying you people or you people who
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come here, he wished he had said everybody, which goes to show that in his head and in his heart, he wasn't
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just talking down or making a mean-spirited comment to immigrants. He was really saying,
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we all need to support the troops. We all need to support veterans. We all need to do better to
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honor the fallen during Remembrance Day. And that's what he's not apologizing for. This is, again,
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something the media doesn't really comprehend, that he's not apologizing for the sentiment. The
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sentiment was that he thinks that we should do better for the troops and for the veterans. He is
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apologizing for the specific verbiage that he used, but he's not apologizing for the greater
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sentiment. Now, you may be asking yourself, is there anyone in the country who doesn't agree
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with Don Cherry? You know, it seems pretty obvious to say that Canadians should do a better job
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on Remembrance Day, remembering all the veterans and all the people who fought for our freedoms in
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all wars. It's kind of something that, you know, you would think that all Canadians would just agree
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with. Well, of course there aren't. There are groups in Canada. Every year we see this group
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that sort of does a boycott of Remembrance Day. They try to argue that Remembrance Day is an idea of,
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you know, imperialism and colonialism and celebrating war. And that's why they boycott.
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Remembrance Day, of course, Remembrance Day isn't a celebration of war. It's an honoring of the people
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who sacrificed themselves. If there's any kind of celebration, it's that the war ended. Remembrance
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Day happens on November 11th because it's the Armistice Day, the day that we laid down our arms.
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Remember, World War I was supposed to be the war to end all wars. It was an awful war. It was a
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terrible war. Millions of people died unnecessarily. And so the idea is it's a somber moment where we
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reflect on how horrible war is and how we should do everything we can to avoid it, but also to
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remember those people who made the sacrifices so that we can have our freedom. Again, this should
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be something that unites all Canadians. And it's so unfortunate. And it isn't just the sort of radical
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anti-war far left that has this message. There are sadly some examples of new Canadians who are
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rejecting our Canadian traditions and want to reject Remembrance Day. So just look at this story
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at tnc.news. It's about a hate preacher from London, Ontario. Now, this guy is a sort of fringe
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Islamist preacher. From my understanding, he's not a member of any mosque. He's been banned from lecturing at
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some universities. And he's sort of been excommunicated by the local community, Muslim community in
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London, Ontario. But this is what he had to say. So he posted this message on Remembrance Day. And
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he's talking about how he is teaching his two daughters to ignore the messages that they're being
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taught at school, which is that Remembrance Day is something that all Canadians should celebrate. And
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instead, that what Remembrance Day actually is, is something that Canadians do to celebrate the
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killing of Muslims. So you can see for yourself, his statement is still up on social media. It's on
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Facebook here. And so he goes through and he talks about how World War One, one of the groups that the
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allies were fighting against, the British and the French allies, the Americans, Canadians, you know,
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they were fighting against the Germans, the Austria-Hungary regime, and the Ottoman Empire. Well,
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the Ottoman Empire is what is modern day Turkey today. And so he's saying that really it was the Brits
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fighting against Muslims. And the fact that this is counter to their religion, that this is hearsay,
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and basically that children shouldn't be taught this, he says, we cannot allow our children to be
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raised to look fondly on the crimes of the colonialist capitalist West, or be taught to feel
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that this is their own history, we have our own history, and we must teach our children to look at the
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world from our perspective. This is the kind of stuff that's failed integration. It shows what
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happens when people come to Canada, but they fully reject Canadian culture, they want no part of the
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cultures and traditions. This is the kind of thing that people worry about, and people fear when we have
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mass immigration, that so many people are going to come from really different parts of the world where
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people have completely different views, try to impose their views on here, that you end up with sort of
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little insurgencies of anti-Canadian bigotry in our own society. And these people will never integrate,
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and they won't join the Canadian family. Now, I truly believe that this is a fringe person that is
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outside the norm, even within Muslim communities, but he's clearly an Islamist. He's clearly somebody
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who wants to live according to Islamist law, Sharia law, and he teaches his children. I feel sorry for
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his daughters who are going to be kind of caught between what they see at school, what they see with
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their friends, and obviously this sort of like hateful father who's trying to brainwash them.
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Hopefully they see that Canada is a great place because of our freedoms, because of our tolerance,
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because of our secularism, and also just because, you know, Canadian values means that we respect
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everybody. But again, this is kind of worrying, and from my opinion, this is the kind of person that
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you want to avoid when you have immigration. This is why we should have better screening and vetting of
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newcomers, including ideology, so that we have a system that screens out people that have this
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hateful anti-Canadian, anti-Western worldview. Okay, guys, I am going to leave it at that. Thank
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you so much for tuning into the podcast. Don't forget to check out tnc.news. We've got a couple
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exclusives up on the website today. Andrew Lawton has a couple of great pieces out, so check that out.
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