Juno News - The Candice Malcolm Show： The mainstream media continues to pile on to Don Cherry

00:00:00.000 You can say hateful and bigoted things on television, as long as you're part of the

00:00:03.860 political left. The mainstream media continues to pile on to Don Cherry, who remains bravely

00:00:08.960 defiant. And a hate preacher in London, Ontario encourages Canadian Muslims not to honor

00:00:15.020 Remembrance Day. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:23.360 All right, guys, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you so much for tuning in. So I'm going

00:00:27.540 to focus the first part of the show today on this segment from a show called The Social.

00:00:32.340 Now, if you're anything like me, you probably never heard of this show before, but essentially

00:00:36.720 it is CTV's version of The View. So it's like the cringy Canadian content version of a successful

00:00:43.540 American show. But from best I can tell, there's no sort of any kind of disagreement among the

00:00:49.700 hosts. I actually had to sit and watch several segments of the show. So yes, you should pity

00:00:54.140 me for that. But these women all just sit and nod in agreement. They have no intellectual diversity 1.00

00:00:58.460 whatsoever. They all just agree. And hearing them kind of pile on and call names and just

00:01:03.980 sort of show how hateful they are of everyday Canadians, of normal Canadians, it was just really

00:01:08.980 awful. And the idea that a media company, CTV, would think that this is a good idea, this is like

00:01:15.200 the thing that Canada needs, is a bunch of sort of elitist women sitting in downtown Toronto, 1.00

00:01:20.140 talking about very superficial things, very vapidly, but then promoting this sort of SJW

00:01:25.780 far left culture beyond me. But anyways, let's go through this clip. I got a lot of requests

00:01:31.980 from people. A lot of people into North Nation were very upset about this clip, probably more so

00:01:36.880 even than the original Don Cherry stuff. Now, obviously, we had a petition, 60,000 signatures

00:01:43.060 standing with Don Cherry. But this really, really irked people. And I'm going to explain why.

00:01:48.060 So first of all, let's go to the clip. This is the main part of the clip that everyone was talking

00:01:54.060 about. It is a woman called Jessie Allen, who is actually a former mainstream media journalist. 0.83

00:02:00.100 She was a Maclean's editor. She's a columnist for Metro newspapers. And so here she is talking

00:02:06.420 about her experiences as to why she doesn't like Don Cherry, but also why she doesn't like

00:02:10.880 vast swaths of the Canadian public. So let's play that clip.

00:02:15.180 I think it struck a nerve because I'm told he's a Canadian icon and he's a symbol of the

00:02:19.580 great sport of hockey, which is the sport that unites us across this country. And that

00:02:25.800 narrative is the one that strikes a nerve with me because I don't worship at the altar

00:02:31.060 of hockey. I never have. And maybe it's because of where I grew up, but there's a, and going

00:02:36.500 to a couple of different universities, there's a certain type of person in my mind, in my experience,

00:02:40.880 who does. And they all tended to be white boys who weren't, um, let's say very nice.

00:02:46.860 They were not generally thoughtful. They were often bullies. Uh, their parents were able 0.98

00:02:51.340 to afford to put them, you know, spend $5,000 a year on minor hockey instead of $5,000, a

00:02:56.480 lot of money. You can do other things besides spending your time in an arena. You can go on

00:03:00.380 a trip and learn about the world, see other things, eh? You know, like it's, the place is,

00:03:05.580 the, the world is a big place. Maybe get sight out of that bubble. And for me, Don Cherry

00:03:10.760 is the walking and talking representative of that type. And he's the type of person that

00:03:16.440 now people want to like, and I know he's done some good things, but at the same time,

00:03:19.840 when someone good is also able to make fun of people who believe in climate science, who's

00:03:25.040 also able to be like, whether he's charming or not, but he's still a bigot and a misogynist 0.77

00:03:30.820 when you're, you know, to have those two things, like I dismiss those people. I find

00:03:36.640 it embarrassing. I find it embarrassing that there's a big chunk of the country that is

00:03:40.880 so upset about this. Hockey doesn't mean anything to me. I'm sorry. It's not part of my Canada.

00:03:44.440 And you're still a great Canadian.

00:03:45.640 And I'm still a great Canadian.

00:03:47.320 Yeah.

00:03:47.720 So, you know, you can see, basically this woman is lecturing Canadians, telling them that 0.77

00:03:53.660 you shouldn't spend your $5,000 a year going to the hockey arena, you know, a place where

00:03:58.380 young men and young women can gain leadership skills, can work as part of a team, can connect

00:04:03.180 with the community, all that stuff. She doesn't recognize any of that stuff. She kind of boils

00:04:06.960 it down to saying hockey players are a bunch of white boys who are not very worldly and not 0.97

00:04:12.520 very nice. Well, that's called stereotyping. That is called being a bigot, saying that from

00:04:17.500 my own narrow experiences, I've met a couple of people that are like this. So I'm going to

00:04:21.800 apply that to everybody in that group. That's stereotyping. That's bigotry, plain and simple.

00:04:27.840 And of course, when, if she was talking about any other group, aside from what she calls

00:04:31.880 white boys, or she was talking about any other group, we know that she would have been fired

00:04:35.940 already. We know that. But because she's talking about white boys, she's talking about the sort 0.99

00:04:41.260 of mainstream culture in Canada. Not only does she get a pass, but she gets celebrated by

00:04:46.840 the sort of vapid SJW culture. And it's so unfortunate. I have a completely opposite experience

00:04:53.500 from Jesse Allen here. I played hockey growing up. I played both on the boys' teams and on

00:04:58.880 the girls' teams. And my experience is, yeah, especially as a girl playing hockey with young

00:05:03.540 guys, you know, starting in grade four, grade five, there's definitely some bullying that

00:05:08.140 happened. But like, by the end of the season, you know, there's a girl on the team. At first,

00:05:12.380 you're kind of like, why is this girl playing with us? By the end of the season, those guys

00:05:15.420 were my good friends, kind of brothers to me. They were always there for me. And, you know,

00:05:20.460 you kind of realize that there's really good people in this sport. So if you just take the

00:05:24.600 kind of idea that everyone who plays a sport is a bully, you never actually explore, you

00:05:29.060 never play it yourself, you're not going to have a good understanding of what a sport is

00:05:33.840 actually about. And again, it's just so unfortunate. She says that instead of spending $5,000, how

00:05:38.860 about you go on a trip? How about you go travel around the world? Well, okay, first of all,

00:05:42.600 we live in a free country. So you can choose to spend $5,000 on hockey, or you can choose

00:05:47.040 to spend $5,000 on a trip somewhere. And also, you can do both. There's nothing that says that

00:05:52.600 people who are hockey players are somehow ignorant or unworldly. A lot of people do both. And then,

00:05:57.440 of course, you know, she talks about her experiences in multiple universities. You know,

00:06:01.220 she's the kind of person who went to multiple universities, who spent probably tens and tens

00:06:05.660 of thousands of dollars, most of it taxpayer dollars, earning useless university degrees.

00:06:09.780 She has a university degree in art history. So she's lecturing Canadians about what they should

00:06:14.080 spend their money on. Meanwhile, she goes out and gets pretty useless university degrees. And again, 1.00

00:06:19.920 just this idea of like uppity Toronto people talking down at the rest of the country is just

00:06:25.660 the kind of stuff that really boils your blood. It doesn't end there. You know, that was a clip

00:06:30.380 that was widely circulated. All of the hosts on this show basically all held the exact same opinion,

00:06:35.720 which was that Don Cherry is a bigot, sort of celebrating this cancel culture, and then taking

00:06:41.380 shots at anyone who supports Cherry, anyone who supports hockey, you name it, they went after it.

00:06:47.220 So let's play a different clip. This one is another one of the hosts. This is a host called

00:06:53.220 Cynthia Loyst. And she's first talking about how Don Cherry used those people. And, you know,

00:06:58.980 the whole controversy here is about Don Cherry's use of the word you people. And you can you can

00:07:03.700 interpret that however you'd like. This is her interpretation, which frankly, this is the

00:07:08.340 interpretation of most of the mainstream media and most of the mob that's piling on to Don Cherry.

00:07:12.980 It's the most uncharitable interpretation of his words. And this is what they believe.

00:07:17.780 He could have said, everyone should wear more poppies. I would want to see more people wear 0.96

00:07:22.580 poppies. He did not say that. What he did say was those people and anybody who's had like a

00:07:30.660 grandfather in their life or a weird uncle has heard references to the those people. And those

00:07:37.540 people are always a certain type of people. They have a certain type of skin color. Everyone knows

00:07:41.140 the subtext of what those people mean. And that's what he said. So let's just start with that. He did

00:07:45.860 not just say everyone to wear poppies. We wouldn't be sitting here having this discussion today. Can we

00:07:50.020 agree upon that? We would not be. So first of all, she's talking about how grandparents,

00:07:54.980 grandfathers and weird uncles are usually bigots, which is kind of a slight against everyone's

00:07:59.940 grandfather out there or any grandpa out there. No, just because someone's from a different

00:08:03.540 generation doesn't make them by virtue of being from a different generation, a bigot, which is

00:08:08.900 exactly what she's suggesting, which again, is kind of bigoted against old people. But then, you know,

00:08:14.180 her main point is that you just can't say you people that has become now a banned racial slur,

00:08:20.500 according to these people who are standing on their soapbox and looking down their noses that

00:08:24.820 Canadians. So according to her own logic, you can't use you people. But then wait a minute,

00:08:30.340 this happens like two minutes later in the segment. So isn't hockey supposed to be something,

00:08:34.340 actually all sports, the idea, and again, this is the non-sporto, I thought you people who are into

00:08:38.340 sports. I thought you people who are into sports, you people, you people, you people.

00:08:45.300 So of course she can say you people, even though she just said that it's horrible and racist. She can

00:08:49.860 say you people because she's talking about people who play sports. Again, this is like the obvious

00:08:54.260 double standard on the left. You can be hateful. You can be a bigot. You can talk about groups and

00:08:59.220 put groups down and do all the stereotyping that you accuse the other side of doing. You do it yourself,

00:09:04.900 but it's okay because you're a good guy. You're on the good side. That's the mindset of all these

00:09:09.700 people. Now I tweeted this out and Cynthia took issue with my tweet. She posted her own tweet saying,

00:09:16.900 a bit louder for the people in the back, when I said you people yesterday in reference to sports fan,

00:09:21.860 I did it intentionally as a joke with irony. Don't at me. I've already moved on. Cheers.

00:09:27.700 Really? That was supposed to be a joke. I mean, listen, I watched the segment, like I said,

00:09:31.860 and they have this live studio audience who kind of does this over the top, like cheering and clapping

00:09:38.020 every time they make a point or anytime you make a joke. And you can tell that they didn't do that at

00:09:43.460 that point. There's no sense of irony in her voice. And regardless, if she had just made a point that

00:09:48.580 using you people is a racial slur, then she shouldn't be joking about racism. She shouldn't

00:09:54.500 be making racist jokes. Of course, if someone on the other side was making a racist joke,

00:09:58.580 she would be all over it. But now apparently she's allowed to be making a racist joke, 1.00

00:10:02.420 even though she clearly was not joking. She didn't know what she was doing. She didn't catch it.

00:10:06.900 Regardless, this is what the mainstream media is saying and doing. These ladies are not the only ones 1.00

00:10:12.660 who are just kind of doubling down on the narrative that Don Cherry is a racist and a bigot. And we've

00:10:19.460 had a couple of days to cool down. Don Cherry is still fired. He hasn't been invited back. Most of

00:10:23.700 the mainstream media, I would say, with the exception of a few voices at the Toronto Sun,

00:10:27.540 the paper that I write for, the entire mainstream media has taken aside even the National Post,

00:10:32.340 which is supposed to be a conservative paper, had like five or six articles all about how Don Cherry

00:10:37.300 is awful and he has to go. So here you have one of those issues where like so many Canadians,

00:10:43.220 there's been a groundswell of Canadians that goes far beyond the left-right divide. Canadians across

00:10:48.500 the country, people who like sports, who like hockey, who just enjoy that part of our culture,

00:10:53.620 have kind of just taken a stand against political correctness. And yet the entire media, with the

00:10:58.420 small exception of the Toronto Sun, is making the opposite point. They're saying this was racism.

00:11:04.260 This was him taking a shot against immigrants. Well, Don Cherry's had the chance to explain himself.

00:11:09.780 And I think that his explanation, again, just goes to show that what he was saying was not hateful.

00:11:14.500 It was not bigoted. He, sure, he made an inarticulate remark. And he even says himself

00:11:19.460 that he wished he had said it differently. So here's what Don Cherry said to CTV.

00:11:23.220 I don't regret anything that I said. I wish I had said it different. I wish I had said everybody,

00:11:29.700 instead of what I said. I forget what I said now. You people. I should have said everybody.

00:11:34.900 And I still believe that everybody should wear a poppy. Everybody. I don't mean one or two. And

00:11:41.940 I still say downtown Toronto and Mississauga, they did not wear a poppy. So he said it to CTV. He said

00:11:48.340 it to Tucker Carlson. His only regret is that he wished instead of saying you people or you people who

00:11:52.660 come here, he wished he had said everybody, which goes to show that in his head and in his heart, he wasn't

00:11:57.700 just talking down or making a mean-spirited comment to immigrants. He was really saying,

00:12:02.820 we all need to support the troops. We all need to support veterans. We all need to do better to

00:12:07.700 honor the fallen during Remembrance Day. And that's what he's not apologizing for. This is, again,

00:12:12.900 something the media doesn't really comprehend, that he's not apologizing for the sentiment. The

00:12:17.620 sentiment was that he thinks that we should do better for the troops and for the veterans. He is

00:12:23.940 apologizing for the specific verbiage that he used, but he's not apologizing for the greater

00:12:28.100 sentiment. Now, you may be asking yourself, is there anyone in the country who doesn't agree

00:12:33.060 with Don Cherry? You know, it seems pretty obvious to say that Canadians should do a better job

00:12:37.700 on Remembrance Day, remembering all the veterans and all the people who fought for our freedoms in

00:12:42.020 all wars. It's kind of something that, you know, you would think that all Canadians would just agree

00:12:47.380 with. Well, of course there aren't. There are groups in Canada. Every year we see this group

00:12:51.460 that sort of does a boycott of Remembrance Day. They try to argue that Remembrance Day is an idea of,

00:12:57.780 you know, imperialism and colonialism and celebrating war. And that's why they boycott.

00:13:02.420 Remembrance Day, of course, Remembrance Day isn't a celebration of war. It's an honoring of the people

00:13:08.340 who sacrificed themselves. If there's any kind of celebration, it's that the war ended. Remembrance

00:13:12.980 Day happens on November 11th because it's the Armistice Day, the day that we laid down our arms.

00:13:17.460 Remember, World War I was supposed to be the war to end all wars. It was an awful war. It was a

00:13:21.780 terrible war. Millions of people died unnecessarily. And so the idea is it's a somber moment where we

00:13:28.500 reflect on how horrible war is and how we should do everything we can to avoid it, but also to

00:13:33.780 remember those people who made the sacrifices so that we can have our freedom. Again, this should

00:13:37.460 be something that unites all Canadians. And it's so unfortunate. And it isn't just the sort of radical

00:13:42.180 anti-war far left that has this message. There are sadly some examples of new Canadians who are

00:13:48.820 rejecting our Canadian traditions and want to reject Remembrance Day. So just look at this story

00:13:53.860 at tnc.news. It's about a hate preacher from London, Ontario. Now, this guy is a sort of fringe

00:14:01.700 Islamist preacher. From my understanding, he's not a member of any mosque. He's been banned from lecturing at

00:14:07.620 some universities. And he's sort of been excommunicated by the local community, Muslim community in

00:14:12.900 London, Ontario. But this is what he had to say. So he posted this message on Remembrance Day. And

00:14:18.740 he's talking about how he is teaching his two daughters to ignore the messages that they're being

00:14:24.020 taught at school, which is that Remembrance Day is something that all Canadians should celebrate. And

00:14:28.660 instead, that what Remembrance Day actually is, is something that Canadians do to celebrate the 0.96

00:14:34.740 killing of Muslims. So you can see for yourself, his statement is still up on social media. It's on

00:14:41.540 Facebook here. And so he goes through and he talks about how World War One, one of the groups that the

00:14:48.980 allies were fighting against, the British and the French allies, the Americans, Canadians, you know,

00:14:52.820 they were fighting against the Germans, the Austria-Hungary regime, and the Ottoman Empire. Well, 0.99

00:14:57.700 the Ottoman Empire is what is modern day Turkey today. And so he's saying that really it was the Brits

00:15:03.460 fighting against Muslims. And the fact that this is counter to their religion, that this is hearsay,

00:15:11.540 and basically that children shouldn't be taught this, he says, we cannot allow our children to be

00:15:16.740 raised to look fondly on the crimes of the colonialist capitalist West, or be taught to feel

00:15:23.220 that this is their own history, we have our own history, and we must teach our children to look at the

00:15:28.660 world from our perspective. This is the kind of stuff that's failed integration. It shows what

00:15:34.260 happens when people come to Canada, but they fully reject Canadian culture, they want no part of the 0.97

00:15:40.900 cultures and traditions. This is the kind of thing that people worry about, and people fear when we have

00:15:45.220 mass immigration, that so many people are going to come from really different parts of the world where

00:15:50.420 people have completely different views, try to impose their views on here, that you end up with sort of

00:15:54.820 little insurgencies of anti-Canadian bigotry in our own society. And these people will never integrate,

00:16:01.380 and they won't join the Canadian family. Now, I truly believe that this is a fringe person that is

00:16:06.740 outside the norm, even within Muslim communities, but he's clearly an Islamist. He's clearly somebody

00:16:11.540 who wants to live according to Islamist law, Sharia law, and he teaches his children. I feel sorry for 0.59

00:16:16.420 his daughters who are going to be kind of caught between what they see at school, what they see with

00:16:21.220 their friends, and obviously this sort of like hateful father who's trying to brainwash them.

00:16:27.780 Hopefully they see that Canada is a great place because of our freedoms, because of our tolerance,

00:16:32.660 because of our secularism, and also just because, you know, Canadian values means that we respect

00:16:38.660 everybody. But again, this is kind of worrying, and from my opinion, this is the kind of person that

00:16:43.060 you want to avoid when you have immigration. This is why we should have better screening and vetting of 1.00

00:16:48.100 newcomers, including ideology, so that we have a system that screens out people that have this

00:16:52.900 hateful anti-Canadian, anti-Western worldview. Okay, guys, I am going to leave it at that. Thank

00:17:00.420 you so much for tuning into the podcast. Don't forget to check out tnc.news. We've got a couple

00:17:05.860 exclusives up on the website today. Andrew Lawton has a couple of great pieces out, so check that out.

00:17:12.580 Don't forget to join our mailing list, and we will see you again next week. Thank you.

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Juno News - November 15, 2019

The Candice Malcolm Show： The mainstream media continues to pile on to Don Cherry

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