Juno News - December 11, 2019
The Candice Malcolm Show: Trudeau still has no idea what to do about China
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Summary
It's been a year since Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig were arrested on trumped-up charges in China. China continues to flex its totalitarian muscles, and senior liberals keep pretending that China is our ally. And Andrew Scheer finally pushes back against media criticism against him.
Transcript
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It's been exactly one year since the two Canadian Michaels were arrested on trumpet charges in China
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and Justin Trudeau still has no idea what to do.
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China continues to flex its totalitarian muscles
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and senior liberals keep pretending that China is our ally
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and Andrew Scheer finally pushes back against media criticism against him.
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I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
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There's a lot to get through and it's been, like I said off the top,
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it's been exactly one year since the two Michaels were detained in China,
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So you have Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig were arrested
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and you have to remember that China is not a Western liberal democracy.
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China doesn't have the basic tenets of the rule of law like we do in Canada.
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So while the CFO of Huawei is on house arrest in Vancouver,
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she has two mansions in Vancouver, so she's basically living a lavish life,
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These two Michaels who are in prison, basically they're being subject to psychological warfare.
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They've had lengthy interrogations, they've had no access to lawyers,
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We hear horror stories about how, for instance,
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one of them had their glasses taken away, their reading glasses,
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I've read other reports of the lights being left on 24-7 in their cells.
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So it's hard to imagine and hard to put yourself in the position of one of those two individuals
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or their families and what they must be living through.
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This is China displaying its tactics, saying that, you know,
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if you're going to arrest one of our senior officials of a senior company in China,
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we're going to fight back by detaining two Canadians.
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And just keep in mind, there are hundreds of thousands of Canadians that live in China,
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that work in China, that are business people, that are over there.
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And the idea that the Chinese authorities could just detain a Canadian
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because they're angry over a dispute that's happening with Canada
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is pretty terrifying, especially given that China is this growing economic
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And I think that this whole thing just shows how out of water Justin Trudeau is
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He literally, he looks like a fish out of water.
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He has been sending so many mixed messages on China,
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treating China like an ally, treating China like an adversary.
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A recent report has come out outlying the horrific conditions.
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It was actually a leaked report from the Chinese government
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that got given to The New York Times outlying the detention camps and the prison camps.
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China has about 1.5 million people, religious minorities, political dissidents,
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even writers, poets, all kinds of different religious minorities,
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And they are detained in basically concentration camps, detention camps.
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But then at the same time, we have senior liberal figures continue
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to kind of complement China and to celebrate China.
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We had the former ambassador to China, John McCallum, basically giving advice to China,
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We have a system of extradition treaty, a system of rules of law,
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And as I said, I think Ms. Meng has quite a strong case.
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But he is far from the only senior liberal person to basically be treating China
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Former liberal MP and former deputy prime minister John Manley recently stated
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that he advised that Canada should do a prisoner swap, a prisoner exchange,
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to basically pardon the Huawei exec Meng and allow the two Michaels to be freed.
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Now, this might sound like a sort of silver bullet solution, like, hey, let's get our two Michaels
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But then the idea that you would just basically pardon a corrupt Chinese official,
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allegedly corrupt Chinese official, and allow them to get free.
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The charges, by the way, that this Huawei CFO is being held on are breaking sanctions laws
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So doing deals with the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world,
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Trudeau recently appointed a new foreign affairs minister, Francois-Philippe Champagne.
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True North was one of the first organizations to report on this.
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And he was doing an interview in 2017 with a Chinese global television network,
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So he's doing an interview with Chinese television.
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Canada, and I would say China, stands out as beacon of stability, predictability,
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So we've got, he thinks China is a rules-based system and an inclusive society.
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Well, in light of this horrific report on the detention of individuals from the Muslim faith in China,
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And the idea that they're rules-based when they arbitrarily arrest two Canadians
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and hold them without any basic tenets of the rule of law,
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like even the ability to talk to a lawyer, is absurd.
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but you have to be pretty naive to believe that this stuff wasn't happening in 2017.
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Those detention camps that I've been talking about have been running for years,
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for years, and we've known about them for a very long time.
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So the fact that Trudeau would promote someone who holds those views,
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those sort of pro-China, willing to gloss over some of the most wicked human rights abuses in the world
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and praise China, it comes across as like groveling.
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And again, I think that Trudeau needs to take a stronger stance
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because the fact that he's been sending these kind of mixed messages
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is something that they've been doing since he became prime minister.
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Staying on in China, one of the problems when you have this sort of dispute that's happening
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between the Hong Kong protesters and the authoritarian Chinese regime
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There's been video surfacing mostly at high schools in and around Vancouver.
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There was a video that surfaced of a pro-China student
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And another report just came out from a Richmond,
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a grade 8 student at Richmond Senior Secondary School
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who displayed a pro-Hong Kong paraphernalia on his locker.
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And then someone gave him a pro-China anonymous letter that got taped onto his locker.
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Now, the CBC reported about this, but the CBC didn't do a very good job reporting about it.
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They only translated the first few words of the report.
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So True North had the entire letter translated.
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The student accused a Hong Kong student of humiliating the Chinese Communist Party.
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You need to understand you are selling your soul to the West.
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Only two words can be described of a Hong Konger, lowlife and chicken.
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Without the Communist Party, today's China would not exist.
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Without the Communist Party, you Hong Kongers would still be living under the feet of the British.
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So, you know, this is just one of the major problems that Canada has with our open border immigration system
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is that we don't do any kind of testing for basically extreme views that anyone's just allowed in.
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So you have people who love freedom and democracy alongside people who love communism and authoritarianism.
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And, you know, to the author of this letter, if you hate the British and you hate the West,
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it begs the question of, you know, why did you come to Canada in the first place?
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And if you love China, you love communism, you know, you shouldn't bring those values to Canada
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and try to impose them on to others, especially through a threatening, menacing letter.
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And like I said, this is just the beginning of stuff is happening in the Chinese diaspora in Canada,
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You can check out that exclusive report that we have over at TNC.
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And, you know, this is, again, just the beginning of the problems with China.
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There was a video that surfaced earlier this month of an individual who looks like they had committed some wrong think
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by commenting on a message from WeChat, commenting about police.
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If you insult communism, if you insult the Chinese regime, who knows?
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You know, the worst case scenario is you get sent to a prison camp.
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This individual looks like he's potentially on his way to a prison camp, or maybe he'll get spared.
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So the person interrogating says, why did you talk about traffic police online?
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The guy replies, because they were confiscating motorcycles.
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Then the police officer asks, so what's wrong with police confiscating motorcycles?
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And the guy basically just says nothing's wrong with that.
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He said it was because he had too much to drink that he wrote that.
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And he is forced to basically grovel before the interrogator, before the police officer.
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You know, it looks like it's straight out of a novel, of a dystopian novel, or, you know,
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revisiting some of the worst moments of the 20th century that we think are behind us.
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And again, it's time that Canada takes a stronger stance against this kind of actions.
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There's no way that China is our ally, and we need to wake up to that fact.
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Some members of the Conservative Party have released a new video sort of standing up for Andrew Scheer.
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You know, there's been so much criticism of Andrew Scheer in the media over the last few months
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since the election, not just from the sort of typical left-wing voices in the media,
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but more and more from Conservative voices or former Conservative voices or people who
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were even involved in Andrew Scheer's campaign, saying, hey, look, I don't think this guy is
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For a while there, it didn't really look like Andrew Scheer had anything to come back with.
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And you had to kind of wonder, you know, does this guy even really want the job?
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Does he want to continue to be leader of the Conservative Party?
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Well, we're finally seeing some signs of Andrew Scheer punching back.
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They released a video comparing Andrew Scheer in 2019 to Stephen Harper, former prime minister,
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long-serving prime minister, on how he was treated in 2005 after he lost an election to
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Paul Martin and reduced Paul Martin's government to a liberal minority.
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So basically, they just go through a bunch of headlines that read like headlines are today
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saying that, you know, Harper will be PM when roast pigs fly.
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Once again, the focus is on the shortcomings of Harper and Co.
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Harper gets an A for effort, but scores an F for results.
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Weary leader hails historic results despite failures in Ontario.
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Talk grows among Tories about who will succeed Harper.
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And then, of course, only a few months after all of these articles were written, there was
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a snap election and Canadians went to the polls again in 2006.
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And it was that point that Stephen Harper went on to win that election and get his first minority
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And then in 2011, he won the historic majority.
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So the conservatives are sort of saying, you know, look, Andrew Scheer is not alone.
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This is sort of the typical reaction to a conservative leader.
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And there are some great quotes in this video from Stephen Harper that we should all keep
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Any conservative anywhere, anytime can, by criticizing other conservatives, become an instant and
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Harper argued a successful conservative leader is someone who ignores such people and does not
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So, once again, I agree with Stephen Harper 100%.
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I don't think that conservatives should waste their time nitpicking one another.
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We shouldn't fight internally among, either among the conservative party or just among the
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We should focus our attention on the big picture, which is fighting against socialists and liberals
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And I think that we would be wise to take this advice.
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It's so easy to spend the months after the election kind of going after and attacking the
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leader of a conservative party who may have made some missteps.
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And, of course, it's important to point those out.
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But the greater focus, again, should be on making sure that the country doesn't slide further
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and further towards socialism, which it is under the current liberal government.